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Drake & PARTYNEXTDOOR's Album Review & The Roc Nation Brunch #118 · The Grounded Show

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Speaker 1: All right, man, we hear at the main events because
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Speaker 1: everybody always got something to say when we talk about
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Speaker 1: So here we go man. Drake and Party next Door
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Speaker 1: dropped their Long Way To album. It's something that both
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Speaker 1: of their fans have been waiting for for a long time.
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Speaker 1: They've been making music forever, they've been collaborating forever, they've
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Speaker 1: been involved in each other's albums.
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Speaker 2: Canada from Canada.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's kind of long overdue as a
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Speaker 1: as a Drake or Party next Door fan, long overdue,
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Speaker 1: just even like them being label mates, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. And something that you mentioned that a couple
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Speaker 1: other people mentioned as well, was like that the album
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Speaker 1: seemed like it was kind of more like songs that
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Speaker 1: maybe he asked him to get on already, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, like kind of like stap together. There's
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Speaker 1: little theories coming now saying that Drake kind of did
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Speaker 1: that as an f you to universal the way like
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Speaker 1: logistically it was done and everything like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you look at the credits on any
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Speaker 2: stream and app, it's ovo sound. It is not any
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Speaker 2: record label.
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Speaker 1: So it's definitely a thing where the situation surrounding the
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Speaker 1: music could make it really easy for you not to
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Speaker 1: just zone in on the music. And so we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do it two ways here. We're gonna just talk about
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Speaker 1: the music, and we're gonna talk about like circumstances, the
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Speaker 1: content on it and all that stuff. So me, my
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Speaker 1: immediate reaction as somebody that's not necessarily a big Drake
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Speaker 1: fan is raps. But I'm a big fan of Drake singing,
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Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily a big fan of Party next Door.
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Speaker 1: So I like Drake's singing records more or than I
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Speaker 1: like Party next Door, if that makes sense, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So I like the intro to CN
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Speaker 1: Tower kind of gave me like so far gone type vibes.
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Speaker 1: I like the way that he approached that record, the
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Speaker 1: sound of it. I like the heartfeltness, Like I like
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Speaker 1: the honest Drake, you know what I'm saying. Like, that's
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Speaker 1: that's what I like that. I mean, that's pretty much
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Speaker 1: any artist.
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Speaker 2: But like I like the.
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Speaker 1: Candide, you know, the easily relatable, palatable stuff, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So I like that CN Tower joint
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Speaker 1: honestly bro from then on, bang with it. I pretty
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Speaker 1: much didn't like anything until that, uh, that one song
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Speaker 1: that I sent you. I'm trying to find the name
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Speaker 1: of it here. Is it Die Trying, Die Trying. I
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Speaker 1: liked a lot I liked. I like the lyrics on
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Speaker 1: that joint, the way that that him and and and
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Speaker 1: Party approached it, Yeba's on that joint. But overall, man,
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Speaker 1: I just I really didn't like it. I don't like
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Speaker 1: the I don't know, I feel like some of the
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Speaker 1: songs were too long with no purpose. I kind of
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Speaker 1: didn't like how you said, like it just it did
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Speaker 1: kind of feel like kind of thrown together. It was
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Speaker 1: like the party next door would come in and sometimes
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even catch that it was party next door
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Speaker 1: because it's just gonna sound like more of the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there was a couple of parts where I
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Speaker 2: could have deferition between the both of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it wasn't like you said, there wasn't too
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Speaker 1: much like cohesiveness where it was like I felt like
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Speaker 1: they were really collaborating, you know what I mean. Like
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Speaker 1: it just really kind of felt like I.
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Speaker 2: Felt like it was already pre recorded Drake track and
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Speaker 2: he's like, yo, just redo my verse for me, And
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Speaker 2: it sounded exactly like if it was Drake doing the
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Speaker 2: verse and I didn't like that. I'm so listening to it.
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Speaker 2: I didn't like that, but you could tell you could.
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Speaker 2: There's a little bit significance between what a collab track
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Speaker 2: would be where Party brings his flow and his sound
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Speaker 2: and Drake brings his sound on a newly produced beat
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Speaker 2: or something that already existed. That's fine, but it's like,
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Speaker 2: replace my verse with yours and try to sound like
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Speaker 2: me kind of vibe. That was my first impression for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even his fans I kind of see like
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Speaker 1: a big split as far as the reception of the
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Speaker 1: album kind of reminds me of when he dropped honestly Nevermind, Yes,
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Speaker 1: where it was like a thing where like people were
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Speaker 1: kind of like on either side of it, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. But honestly, never Mind is actually my
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Speaker 1: favorite Drake.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the thing for me. Drake drops albums
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Speaker 2: to demographics, right, and a bunch of my and it's funny,
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Speaker 2: A bunch of my homeboys said, I don't know if
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. These are sexy songs for you. These
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Speaker 2: ain't for the homeboys, These are for the ladies. They
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Speaker 2: made songs for the women.
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Speaker 1: And that came out on Valentine's and that's something Party
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Speaker 1: next Door was saying, like kind of just talking to
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Speaker 1: all the people like the lies in it, trying to
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Speaker 1: trying to see the Kendrick angle of it, or like
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Speaker 1: trying to you don't need a dictionary.
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Speaker 2: You don't need a dictionary for this album.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it was like one of those things where
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Speaker 1: it's like Party next Door was saying, bro, this is
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Speaker 1: a song to get women to like, get a life, nerd, basically.
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Speaker 2: To get the buns too.
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Speaker 1: He said it a little more, you know, a little
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Speaker 1: unpeg basically, he said, get a life, nerd. This this
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Speaker 1: is about girls.
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I was dead with the homies and
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Speaker 2: like my boy's talking about he's playing it with his
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Speaker 2: wife and he's like, I don't know if I'm feeling it. Bro,
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Speaker 2: this is not an album listen to in front of
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Speaker 2: your wife, like this is. This is not for loyal
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Speaker 2: that the devoted women. This is not this is for
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Speaker 2: the party. This is for the party, for the people,
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Speaker 2: the single people, the people out there you know, give
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Speaker 2: me and give me hugs. The only one who we
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Speaker 2: actually split a verse too. And that's when he he
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Speaker 2: got a couple of jobs. He's like, what do you say?
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Speaker 1: He's like, was that the one that he was like
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Speaker 1: wrapping off beating the intro?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but he had some good bars though.
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Speaker 2: He has so people want to see me on his shirt.
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Speaker 1: Like, so now let's transition into like the speculation and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. So going off of what you just said,
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Speaker 1: it's some sexy songs for you. He starts the album
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Speaker 1: with like, I don't know if you peeped it, but
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Speaker 1: in the first song he says something along the lines
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Speaker 1: of like I'm a fan in real life, which is
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Speaker 1: what Kendrick called him fan fan. So like right when
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Speaker 1: that hit, I was like, damn, bro, like you you
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Speaker 1: already on this. You know what I'm saying, Like you
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Speaker 1: could tell you could hear the overtunes of the Kendrick
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Speaker 1: Beef in the album he had working with a dictionary.
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Speaker 2: He said, fuck that beef ship. I'm trying to make
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Speaker 2: some party ship. He even had that one bar he said,
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Speaker 2: we not like them, baby, and they're not like us.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so funny because Kendrick, I mean, Drake
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Speaker 1: fans are so pressed to say Kendrick is only thinking
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Speaker 1: about Drake all the time freaking R and B album
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Speaker 1: and he's.
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Speaker 2: Because you know why. And then like he's doing you know,
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Speaker 2: he's doing a tour in Australia, He's doing a bunch
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Speaker 2: of shows. He's headlining the festival in London in July.
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Speaker 2: But he's not dropping a rap album yet. But he's
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Speaker 2: telling everybody he's going to. But he know it ain't
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Speaker 2: the time to drop right because everybody's gonna do that.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna analyze his rap album and see all you
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Speaker 2: still can't rap as good as Kendrick. And he's smart,
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Speaker 2: he's strategic, I give him that, but that's why he's like,
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Speaker 2: what can I do? I could drop an R and
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Speaker 2: B outright? That something? What can Kendrick not do right now?
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Speaker 2: Drop an R and B album? So I'm gonna do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, It's definitely as far as the music goes,
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Speaker 1: it didn't really hit for me. There's a couple of
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Speaker 1: dope songs on it, but just didn't really hit for me.
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Speaker 1: It seems like the people that like that kind of stuff,
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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it, you know what I mean. And
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Speaker 1: people are rocking with that Nokia song to get a
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Speaker 1: song definitely hearing about those two mostly, I don't really
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Speaker 1: hear too much about the other ones. I am seeing
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Speaker 1: a lot of people quoting the song that I was
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Speaker 1: mentioning the Die Trying, a lot of people quoting Die Trying.
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Speaker 2: I see that he let me tell you what he
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Speaker 2: did with give Me a Hug. Though that's the one
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Speaker 2: that he rapped on the beginning. He switched to be
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Speaker 2: three times, so it started off with him rapping, and
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Speaker 2: he switched it into an RB song like pretty much
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Speaker 2: like what's the care for Me?
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Speaker 1: Care for Me?
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Speaker 2: Nice for what? It pretty much went from a rap like, Oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you this rap, and then let me
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Speaker 2: turn it into a nice for what for you'all because
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Speaker 2: everybody's gonna want to jop vibe to this, and then yeah.
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Speaker 1: Man, it was definitely something where people kind of used
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Speaker 1: it to fuel the Kendrick and Drake thing, because that's
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Speaker 1: the thing that's hitting right now, and I find it again.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a big Drake fan. I would say I
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Speaker 1: like maybe five percent of his music, But I'm seeing
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Speaker 1: this article on Hip Hop DX. The title of the
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Speaker 1: article is Drake faces another loss to Kendrick Lamar with
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Speaker 1: underwhelming some sexy songs for you sales bruh, And then
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Speaker 1: the second paragraph on this thing says, well, I'm not
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Speaker 1: even gonna read the first line because it's just them
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Speaker 1: throwing more jabs at them. But is on track to
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Speaker 1: earn around two hundred and fifty thousand equivalent units in
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Speaker 1: his first week, and the album is expected to debut
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Speaker 1: at number one on the Billboard two hundred, earning Drake
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Speaker 1: his fourteenth chart topper, putting him at level with Jay
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Speaker 1: Z and five behind record holder The Beater, the Beatles
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Speaker 1: and parties first. But they're trying to say it'll be
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Speaker 1: the fifth lowest selling of Drake's career and kind of
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Speaker 1: saying like bro cut all the bullshit, number one album,
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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand units.
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Speaker 2: Like even when he's doing bad, he's real good though.
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Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about?
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Speaker 2: How are you?
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Speaker 1: How is this a loss to Kenvick Lamar? He just
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Speaker 1: dropped the number one album with not being such in
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Speaker 1: favor with the labels and stuff. The numbers went down.
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Speaker 1: You know why the numbers went down because the machine
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Speaker 1: that was behind you is not behind you the same way.
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Speaker 2: Fifty cent said it, fifty ten said it, and Cookie
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Speaker 2: I don't want to go die deep dive. But fifty
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Speaker 2: cent said it. Everything that Drake is suing for it
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Speaker 2: is true, But they've done the same for Drake facts.
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Speaker 2: It's nothing they haven't done for him before. And guess what,
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Speaker 2: they ain't doing it for him? No more facts.
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Speaker 1: And then the thing people got to understand, man, is like,
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Speaker 1: because I have posted something on threads about it that
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Speaker 1: people was like trying to flame me for Basically I
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Speaker 1: was saying, the same people that want to discount of
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Speaker 1: Grammys when they're Drake fans, you can't then turn around
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Speaker 1: and give numbers to support Drake's. The same way the
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Speaker 1: Grammys is a fabricated thing is the same way the
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Speaker 1: numbers is fabricated. There's a little truth in both, Like
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Speaker 1: if you get a Grammy for Best Album or a
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Speaker 1: Best Song, whatever, yeah it will warranted that. But at
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Speaker 1: the same time it's a political thing. The same thing
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Speaker 1: with numbers, Bro. People want to say numbers are bro.
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Speaker 1: Numbers are literally just Hey, I'm putting you in front
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Speaker 1: of a bigger audience, so I'm casting a wider net.
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Speaker 1: If your net isn't as wide, Bro, you could be
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Speaker 1: a better fisherman than somebody mile long net that he
11:34
Speaker 1: can cast a mile long man in the ocean and
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Speaker 1: your net is ten feet, bro, you could be a
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Speaker 1: million times better than him, but he's gonna catch more fishing.
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Speaker 2: And you have to be in their favor and you
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Speaker 2: have to be aligning to what their goals are and
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Speaker 2: what they want you to be and not take it
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Speaker 2: away from Kenrick because that's every single garden and that's
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Speaker 2: what you got to do to succeed. But it's like
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Speaker 2: one Drake pushed away from that and he's like, no,
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Speaker 2: I want to do my all thing. That's what all
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Speaker 2: these conversations talking about, Oh Drake would be so big
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Speaker 2: of he was independent. He's not trying to do that.
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Speaker 2: He's not trying to support that. He wants to use
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Speaker 2: a label for what they're good for and let them
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Speaker 2: do that work. But once you go against what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: But this was kind of like a nice little experiment
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Speaker 1: for Drake because think about it this way, Like you said,
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Speaker 1: it didn't come out on Universal. This album came out
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Speaker 1: through Ovio and Santa Ana, so it didn't come through
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Speaker 1: Universal at all. And it's not even you can't even
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Speaker 1: completely tie it to Drake because it is a collab album,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like a fan might see
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Speaker 1: party next door, they don't who party next door? They're
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Speaker 1: gonna skip. They're not even gonna see that, It says
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Speaker 1: Drake like the everyday fan. And the album since it
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Speaker 1: wasn't on a major, it didn't have the budget that
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Speaker 1: he usually has for his albums. So for him to
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Speaker 1: still come out number one with a collab album after
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Speaker 1: losing a beef that bad, how are you gonna come
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Speaker 1: out with an article saying he's taking another at all?
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Speaker 1: And like I said, Bro, this is coming from a
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Speaker 1: person that's not a fan. Bro.
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Speaker 2: Laughter. When I posted your Madre track, that Spanish track,
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Speaker 2: this guy thought it was a joke.
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Speaker 1: Bro. When I saw that meet your product, because I
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Speaker 1: had seen that on a TikTok, right, But the way
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Speaker 1: I saw it, like in the way they did the video,
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Speaker 1: it sounded like some AI or something, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. I was laughing, like, Bro, this is funny, Bru.
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Speaker 1: Then you sending the chat the link to the song,
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Speaker 1: and I played the little preview because when you send
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Speaker 1: the lyrics to hear the actual part, which I think
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Speaker 1: is mad dope. But when I played the preview and
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Speaker 1: then I went to the song. I'm like, Bro, this
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Speaker 1: is a song.
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Speaker 2: On I've never seen this guy send so many laugh
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Speaker 2: emojis in a chat in my life.
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Speaker 1: Dog, I couldn't believe it. Bro, I was like, dog,
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Speaker 1: what is this?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 1: What do you do?
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Speaker 2: But I don't want to And that's one thing I
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Speaker 2: didn't want to get too deep in the chat about it.
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Speaker 2: But you can't take away from what that style of
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Speaker 2: song is. That's the scene the lord. That's the Mexican
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Speaker 2: kind of cultures as a plessor plum my sound. And
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Speaker 2: and Gino I'm actually a fan of. They already had
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Speaker 2: a clap in last year and the song sounds exactly
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Speaker 2: like that. But it's his song with a Drake feature
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Speaker 2: and Drakes singing the Spanish. That's that style of music
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Speaker 2: that it shouldn't sound anything other than what that sounds like.
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Speaker 1: So this is my my take on it, like like
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Speaker 1: diving into it musically. And I'm gonna use this example.
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Speaker 1: Usher and Romeo Santos, they dropped that. They dropped that song.
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Speaker 1: You hear it, bro, And you could tell Usher took
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Speaker 1: that serious. Bro. You know he sung the Spanish the
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Speaker 1: right way. The song was a hit. Is a banger.
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Speaker 2: Bro Bush is an R and B artist, I know,
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Speaker 2: but Dog.
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Speaker 1: When I listen said I need your padre thing, Bro,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like a parody song. It sounds like some snl.
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Speaker 2: But that's how he sounds. It sounded in me. That's
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Speaker 2: how he sounded. And the bad Buddy track ridiculous. Bro,
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Speaker 2: he my bro scheme trying to find him.
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Speaker 1: That sounds. He sounds like he's like making fun of
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Speaker 1: Spanish people, Bro, Like, that's how.
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Speaker 2: I hear it, But that's how his Canadian ass sounds.
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Speaker 2: In Spanish, it's just stag. And that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I'm not shut your ass.
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Speaker 2: I'm not out here, you know, critiquing. It's dual lingo skills,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'm here to absorb the
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Speaker 2: song for what it is. And that shit hits. And
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Speaker 2: even at the end, you hear party next door saying
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Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be in do Lord that next door.
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Speaker 2: Like he's even singing in Spanish at the end of
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Speaker 2: the outro. So it's like they're doing it justice. It's
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Speaker 2: not the best, but they're not ruining the song. But
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Speaker 2: it's not they're not pronouncing the language as good as
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Speaker 2: it could be. I'll give you that, Bro.
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Speaker 1: I respect your opinion. Mine is that ship is trash
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Speaker 1: to the mask. Bro, that was like they literally sound
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Speaker 1: like a joke. And then like after like ten fifteen seconds,
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Speaker 1: I was like, nah, Bro, this is horrible. This is horrible. Bro,
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Speaker 1: And I heard I heard Chino podcast in it, and
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Speaker 1: he sounded good. You know what I'm saying, Like, because
15:56
Speaker 1: he's actually like, yeah, doing it the right way, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, I don't know, Bro, I
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Speaker 1: just I feel like he didn't respect the culture enough.
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Speaker 2: I don't really hit it the right way. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to get I'm not going to defend him because
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Speaker 2: it is trash. The way he pronounces Spanish. I think
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Speaker 2: he should let that go and just stick to English.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he's disrespecting it. I think that's
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Speaker 2: just the best he can do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that. I feel it. And it's not
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Speaker 1: even something where I'm like about to go with a
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Speaker 1: pick a sign down town. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: No, that's how Rodney felt. Ronnie was Rodney felt disrespecting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that bro. Shout out to Rodney Man. But Doug,
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Speaker 1: we'll kind of wrap up with this, but something that
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Speaker 1: was funny that I had kind of seen been being
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Speaker 1: brought up lately and it's just kind of funny to
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Speaker 1: see also how like the cool factor thing is kind
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Speaker 1: of going away in like pop culture because you know,
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Speaker 1: before you had the rock Nation brunch, you still got it,
16:57
Speaker 1: but it was something where it was like a status thing,
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Speaker 1: like people were literally, like you know, just me being
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Speaker 1: in the peripherals of the music industry, you would see
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Speaker 1: people like in studios like trying to like figure out
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Speaker 1: a way to even get to that, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like to be able to go to And
17:13
Speaker 1: it's not only just Rock Nation, Like a lot of
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Speaker 1: record labels have events like that, like brunches, little parties,
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Speaker 1: talent management companies, like especially on the West, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like a lot of these places be
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Speaker 1: having those parties, and there's a lot of people that
17:28
Speaker 1: just be politicing to get into those parties and into
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Speaker 1: those vibes. And now as like we're getting into an
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Speaker 1: arrow where like TikTok is like showing like the realness
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Speaker 1: and stuff people ain't so pressed about cool celebrities, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Now, the kind of embarrassed. I think, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: And then uh, so you had Gilly on Shannon Sharp's podcast,
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Speaker 1: shout out to Gilly million dollars worth the game Gilly
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Speaker 1: and Wallow. So Gilly was talking about why they don't
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Speaker 1: go to the Rock Nation brun She said, they got invited,
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Speaker 1: but it's like, brou, I'm the one with the motion
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Speaker 1: right now, I'm not gonna go there just so jay
18:04
Speaker 1: Z can say or Rock Nation can say, Hey, look
18:07
Speaker 1: how we got all the people that matter. They come
18:09
Speaker 1: in here, they want to be here, because he never
18:11
Speaker 1: really felt like nothing was going on there aside from
18:15
Speaker 1: him given his momentum, and it sounds cloud and it
18:20
Speaker 1: sounds funny to people because they look at it from
18:22
Speaker 1: this way. Oh, jay Z is a way bigger rapper.
18:25
Speaker 2: Than like, you should appreciate that.
18:28
Speaker 1: Gilly ever, was exactly like, oh you should you even
18:31
Speaker 1: talking like that about jay Z, Like, Bro, but right now,
18:34
Speaker 1: Gilly's not a rapper, Bro. Gilly is a podcaster, content creator,
18:39
Speaker 1: and he has one.
18:39
Speaker 2: Of the big look at he was in the Eagles
18:41
Speaker 2: locker room when they're on the Super Bowl.
18:43
Speaker 1: Bro, he got one of the biggest platforms right now.
18:45
Speaker 1: As far as like talking to the people. So yeah,
18:48
Speaker 1: he got the cloud. Like you know what I'm saying,
18:50
Speaker 1: jay Z's out of the public eye, He's in a
18:52
Speaker 1: different space. So he was just talking about that angle
18:56
Speaker 1: from it and why he don't go to the Rock
18:57
Speaker 1: Nation brunch. Then you got camera on Bro. Cameron is
19:02
Speaker 1: so funny though, like just the way he to me,
19:06
Speaker 1: because like he's real, he's real, but he's also like
19:12
Speaker 1: he has these like little things to me that is
19:14
Speaker 1: like he's still mad childish, you.
19:16
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. Like I think it's a perfect coment.
19:20
Speaker 1: It definitely is. And it's like Cam didn't agree with
19:24
Speaker 1: like not necessarily he didn't agree because it wasn't like comparing.
19:27
Speaker 1: He didn't have the same reasons as Gilly, but he
19:30
Speaker 1: had his reasons of why he don't rock with the
19:31
Speaker 1: Rock Nation Bro.
19:32
Speaker 2: So he agreed with him, but not for the logic
19:34
Speaker 2: behind it.
19:35
Speaker 1: So basically one of the things is like, Bro, he's
19:37
Speaker 1: worked with jay Z and he knows jay Z, so
19:39
Speaker 1: he's like, this is Cam out on records with jay Z.
19:42
Speaker 1: I was actually signed to jay Z's company. I actually
19:45
Speaker 1: had a joint venture with jay Z and Depth Jam.
19:47
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal for me to be around
19:48
Speaker 1: jay Z or one, you know what I'm saying, Like,
19:50
Speaker 1: so it's like the record, So it's like that that
19:56
Speaker 1: thing for him is not like a clea And he
20:00
Speaker 1: kind of feels the same where he's like he got
20:01
Speaker 1: his platform and his platform is doing this thing, like
20:03
Speaker 1: why do I need to go to the brunch? But
20:08
Speaker 1: this is the part that got me though. He goes,
20:11
Speaker 1: it's not really a big deal for me to be
20:12
Speaker 1: around a bunch of men because it'd be a little
20:15
Speaker 1: scatter of bitches at that shit, and then it's a
20:18
Speaker 1: bunch of men. Secondly, you got a bunch of people
20:21
Speaker 1: just hanging out to take pictures, not to piggyback off
20:24
Speaker 1: gilly shit at all. But end of the day, why
20:27
Speaker 1: am I going to see people I've seen a hundred
20:30
Speaker 1: times and then there's really nothing to talk about. Is
20:33
Speaker 1: it a great tool for younger artists? Absolutely, He's basically saying, like,
20:37
Speaker 1: you know, if you're trying to rub shoulders and stuff
20:40
Speaker 1: and you're trying to network with people that maybe you
20:42
Speaker 1: never been around, oh yeah, in that situation.
20:45
Speaker 2: I've been coming. If you never experienced that kind of
20:47
Speaker 2: you know, legends around you and that kind of success
20:51
Speaker 2: around you. Yeah, I get it. But if you've been
20:53
Speaker 2: around there and that's just like taining it water to
20:56
Speaker 2: you at this point anyway, and the reason to be
20:58
Speaker 2: around it.
20:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, facts, and it's just funny, man, Like we kind
21:03
Speaker 1: of wrap up with this, like some people hold so
21:05
Speaker 1: much value in things like that, like in the opportunity
21:08
Speaker 1: to be around this person or that person or you know,
21:12
Speaker 1: whoever's popping at the time. Whatever. It's like, bro, kind
21:15
Speaker 1: of like what we're doing with the podcast, Bro, just
21:17
Speaker 1: do your thing, do it well, keep improving, and then
21:21
Speaker 1: what you're looking for it'll happen.
21:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that and that that's what it is. We're
21:27
Speaker 2: not chasing cloud. We're not chasing to be like like
21:31
Speaker 2: we started off this show with. We're not chasing to
21:33
Speaker 2: be something that's going to get us exposure. We're chasing
21:36
Speaker 2: to make what we want to be exposed the best
21:39
Speaker 2: in the highest quality that it is. And that's it.
21:41
Speaker 2: We don't need no shortcuts or no piggybacks or nothing
21:44
Speaker 2: like that.
21:45
Speaker 1: And we're blessed to be in like good situations financially
21:48
Speaker 1: and life wise where like we don't need this to
21:51
Speaker 1: take off in a certain way for like our success
21:54
Speaker 1: is not tied to it. Like this is really like
21:56
Speaker 1: a labor of love. It's something that where we like
21:59
Speaker 1: channel our passions into it and really like just hone
22:03
Speaker 1: into things that were, like I said, the things that
22:05
Speaker 1: were passionate about to make stuff happen with it. And
22:09
Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to that Rock Nation lunch
22:11
Speaker 1: thing like, Bro, anything that you do or anything that
22:14
Speaker 1: you don't do, you can come up with a reason
22:16
Speaker 1: why or why not. You just gotta do whatever to
22:18
Speaker 1: the best of your ability and make it happen. That's
22:20
Speaker 1: at the end of the.
22:21
Speaker 2: Day what it is. Yep. And at the end of
22:23
Speaker 2: the day, what you gotta do is stay by them
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