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MINI SCROLL: Therapy Jeff Threads backlash, Matt Kaplan exposé, Kendall Jenner x Jacob Elordi + SLOMW OC cast · Mini Scroll

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  Coming up today on mini scroll therapy, Jeff is facing backlash
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  over content he's been posting on threads.
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  Alex Cooper's husband is being accused of yelling at and
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  berating staff at the unwell network.
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  Kendall Jenner and Jacob Allordy are reportedly dating and the
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  secret lives of Mormon wives OC edition has announced an
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  influencer failed cast list. Hi everyone, welcome to Mini
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  Scroll, the daily Internet culture podcast bringing you the
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  biggest stories from social media, the creator economy and
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  the digital space every Monday through Thursday and sometimes
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  the founder of the Australian youth digital media brand
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  to our Patreon as well. All right, the first story that
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  I have for you guys today is therapy.
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  Jeff is facing backlash for content that he's been posting
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  on threads. So therapy Jeff is possibly one
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  of the biggest therapist content creators on social media right
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  now. He's based in Portland, OR, and
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  he has a following of over 3,000,000 on TikTok and 1.5
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  million on Instagram where he shares content about mental
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  health and dating. Over the past few days, he's
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  been facing a lot of criticism over some content that he's been
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  posting on Threads. I truly hate to platform
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  Threads. You guys know Threads is like
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  the depths of hell. It is slop on top of slop
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  usually, but sometimes shit goes down on threads.
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  OK, so it all started when he responded earlier this week to a
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  question posted by famous intimacy expert Shan Boudrem.
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  Shan had posted this question on threads Men and people with
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  penises only. What's your favorite hand job
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  technique as a receiver? If you guys don't want to hear
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  somebody detail their sexual preferences, you can skip ahead.
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  And Jeff on his public verified account responded with this.
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  There's technique, but honestly, a lot of it is the whole vibe.
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  If you're leaning over me, looking a little wrecked and
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  hungry for an acting confident, playful and a little bossy, that
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  really does it for me. Technique wise, the tip is the
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  how sensitive and pleasurable, so tease that spot for a while.
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  Run your full hand over it a few times.
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  When I start getting close, move faster and focus on the tip even
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  more when I'm done. It's fun to see you feeling
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  really pleased with yourself. And then he posted again and
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  wrote. Also don't forget to tickle the
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  butt hole and or lick and kiss around the base.
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  So the reaction to this is very divided.
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  There's a lot of outrage given he's still a practicing
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  therapist as far as we know, and he was using his professional
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  account with his like full face full name, verified account to
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  post this. And the outrage around this is
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  more coming from the perspective of professionalism.
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  Like how would you feel if you were one of his clients and you
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  saw your therapist post something like that?
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  As someone who goes to therapy myself, my mom's also a
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  therapist as well. I would personally never go to a
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  therapist who is an influencer to begin with.
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  To be fair, I feel like I am not comfortable with seeing my
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  therapist or like knowing my therapist and in in details
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  about their life and stuff outside of the context of our
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  professional relationship like in their office if that makes
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  sense. And I personally especially
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  would not want to know about their sexual preferences.
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  But I can also understand that not everyone might feel as
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  strongly about that and maybe open to therapists who do have
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  public platforms or who are more like open about their personal
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  lives online and things like that.
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  Like just for me personally, I wouldn't want that.
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  So when I was reading this I was like Oh my God.
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  Like picturing my therapist being like that would send me
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  off the deep end. I would be so not OK with that.
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  However, there actually are a large group of people online who
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  feel like this outrage around the post is indicative of how
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  prude our culture has become. We see countless headlines all
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  the time, and a lot of it's backed up by research that young
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  people aren't having sex. Purity culture's on the rise.
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  No one's partying. Gen.
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  Zed thinks sex scenes and movies are unnecessary.
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  Like there's just no room anymore in culture for like that
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  messy humanity that makes life fun.
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  My personal opinion is that the people who are outraged by this
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  are not being anti sex or prude. It's more like shock and
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  confusion as to why he would post this on his public profile
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  and why he thought it would be appropriate when he knows his
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  clients may see this. OK so that was one part of the
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  story. And then the criticism was
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  amplified when a day or two later he posted this on threads.
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  And trigger warning, I am going to be talking about rape, sexual
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  assault, sexual violence, he wrote.
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  Quote, is there no dedicated national helpline for men who
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  are scared they might sexually assault their partner?
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  Or for anyone for that matter? Like if they're experiencing an
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  urge and are worried their fantasies are turning into
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  plans, who can they call immediately?
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  I'm asking because I posted content about men having these
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  fantasies and what to do about them.
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  And I wanted to end it with something like, if you're a man
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  experiencing these thoughts or urges, please call.
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  But I can't find anything. All right, so the timing of this
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  post is particularly, I mean, the timing of this post is
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  always going to be bad, but the timing of this post right now is
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  particularly bad given the rape Academy report that just came
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  out. I'm sure most of you guys have
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  seen this, but a few weeks ago CNN released an investigation
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  that, quote, exposed a Global Rape Academy, an online forum
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  that millions of men have visited where they encourage
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  others to drug and assault their wives and swap tips on how to do
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  it and how to get away with it. Now the main concern with Jeff's
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  post is that victims of assault and sexual violence so rarely
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  get the support that they need. And now this licensed therapist
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  who has a ginormous platform of millions who look up to him as a
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  source of advice and truth in some regard around like mental
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  health and these topics like using his professional account
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  to ask for support for men who want to commit these acts.
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  Plus, it does feel like a fundamental misunderstanding of
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  why men commit sexual violence in general.
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  It is not because they're having like, fantasies and urges.
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  We know it's about power mostly. So here are some of the replies
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  to his post Stephen Hofstetter wrote they actually made a
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  shortcut for a helpline like that.
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  You just dial 9 and then one and then one.
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  Cold Case Kansas wrote there have actually been calls made to
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  911 where someone was worried they were going to hurt their
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  partner. A parent was worried they were
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  going to hurt their child. Intervention occurs.
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  No, not arrest. We try to find a safe alternate
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  place. See if you need mental health
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  services. Doctor BF Palmer wrote that's
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  because sexually assaulting people is not a compulsion or a
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  mental illness. It's a choice.
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  There are no national help lines for criminal behaviors like
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  murder, robbery, or arson. This idea that there should be a
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  helpline for men supports the narrative that sexual violence
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  is innate in men. It's not.
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  There is no drive to violate others.
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  Men are taught to make horrible choices.
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  Invest in early anti misogyny education and initiatives, and
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  change rape laws to address systemic misogyny, Dr. Nischelle
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  Hayes wrote. As a fellow mental health
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  professional, I dot dot dot dot I'm at a loss for words.
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  The best two I can muster are fuck no and this is a TikTok
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  from a user named Control Code Book.
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  The root of grape, I don't want to say these words because I
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  don't want to get banned by the platform, is not male fantasy.
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  The roots are desire for power and control, social and cultural
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  factors, dehumanization and entitlement.
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  The same entitlement that would never call a hotline to begin
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  with but post about needing 1 completely stripping women and
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  men and children from the frame that deserve to be centered in
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  the conversation. And not only that, the majority
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  of the people that staff the hotlines, at least the type of
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  hotline that I staffed, are by women.
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  And we can only imagine where this sort of hotline would go.
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  It would quickly be abused, just like the Rape Crisis hotline
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  that I was trained to answer calls on was also frequently
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  abused. And here it is, centering his
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  needs, his desires, his fantasies, while completely
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  obliterating the people, women, men, children that this whole
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  conversation is predicated on to begin with, who deserve to be
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  centered. So off the back of these things,
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  there's now all these screenshots circulating from
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  older threads, posts where people are noting that he may
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  have been posting kind of like bizarre or inappropriate advice
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  for a long time. And this is also sparked a bunch
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  of women who allegedly live in the Portland area who say they
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  knew about Therapy Jeff's weird behavior for a long time.
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  So a woman named Carly Simone wrote watching people finally
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  realize therapy Jeff is creepy with questionable takes is so
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  validating. As someone who had one session
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  with him tennis years ago and got the ick immediately.
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  Trust your intuition always. And then paper and smoke on
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  threads responded to this and said the streets have been
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  talking about therapy Jeff for years.
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  He's been posted multiple times in the Portland We are Dating
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  the Same Guy group with horrendous feedback and some
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  people who lived in his apartment complex were posting
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  about what a piece of shit he was years ago.
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  I'm honestly shocked it took this long to reach a bigger
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  audience. All right, the next story that I
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  have for you guys today is I'm going to cover the Bloomberg
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  expose piece on Matt Kaplan, who is Alex Cooper's husband and the
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  Co CEO of the Unwell Network. Bloomberg dropped an expose a
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  couple days ago into the Unwell Network that accused Matt Kaplan
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  of yelling at and berating staff at the company.
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  Like I said, Matt Kaplan is Alex Cooper's husband.
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  He's a Hollywood producer and they met in 2020 on a Zoom
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  meeting. They got married in April 2024
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  and they started the media parent company Trending
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  Together, and the Unwell Network is underneath that company.
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  So this piece came out. And according to anonymous
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  sources, Kaplan is often loud and confrontational with
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  employees, prompting some crew members to threaten to quit or
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  refuse to work on film sets or tours unless his behavior
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  changes. One production worker reportedly
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  became emotional on set amid A heated exchange with him, and
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  the report claims that Kaplan has been accused of frequently
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  yelling at staff members. Insiders say the tension came to
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  a head during production of The Unwell Winter Games, which as we
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  know is like the YouTube series that has a bunch of influencers
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  and has already had its fair share of drama in terms of the
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  casting choices. When Kaplan allegedly berated
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  staff and warned that mistakes could damage their future
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  careers in Hollywood, formal staff complaints were allegedly
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  filed and some employees demanded improvements and how
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  leadership interacts with them. And we actually did see a
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  glimmer of this in Alex Cooper's documentary on Hulu, Call Her
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  Alex. When a production manager
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  threatened to quit and in the dock, Matt Kaplan said that it
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  was due to demanding work schedule.
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  But sources are claiming that's not the truth.
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  It's because of like the workplace environment and
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  there's also several senior executives that have left the
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  unwell network over the past like year or two, which is
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  making people side eye this whole story like even more
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  making them wonder maybe there's actually some truth to this.
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  OK, so like, am I surprised that a rich and powerful white man in
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  Hollywood is possibly a tyrant and a nightmare to work for?
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  No. However, the timing of this
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  piece is interesting since we were all talking about how weird
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  it was that Alex Cooper decided to like, ignite this feud with
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  Alex Earl after she had stayed silent for so long.
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  Alex Earl had been like poking and poking and prodding at her
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  with all of these reposts and all of these shady comments for
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  months and months and months. And then Alex Earl hadn't posted
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  anything in maybe what, like 2 weeks or something like that?
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  And then Alex Cooper just drops this random TikTok.
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  And we were all saying like, the timing is strange.
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  So of course now people are like, is that because they knew
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  this piece was coming out? Obviously articles like this can
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  take a long time to produce. They would have been given
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  option to respond. And so maybe they knew this was
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  coming out. And Alex V Alex has been like a
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  great distraction. Also, as I said before, the
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  whole Alex V Alex thing really blew up the past couple of
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  weeks. The sentiment around Alex Cooper
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  was becoming increasingly negative.
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  She was starting to develop a bit of a reputation problem, I
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  would say, like just in terms of like the general public and how
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  people were talking about her online.
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  And then obviously with this Alex V Alex stuff, people are
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  largely, I wouldn't say like they're on her side, but I think
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  it's making her look better. Like I think a lot of people are
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  seeing her in a different light based on all of the opinions
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  flying around about Alex V Alex. What I don't like about this
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  situation is how Alex Cooper is kind of being blamed for her
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  husband's alleged bad behavior. I think we see so much of that,
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  I mean, in like life, but especially in the entertainment
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  industry. However, I also understand
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  because it is her name and it's her brand on the door.
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  So at the end of the day, the onus does need to fall on her to
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  an extent to protect her employees and her company.
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  I know I also haven't really covered more about what Brianna
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  Chicken Fry has been saying, but she made that big podcast
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  episode where she's saying, like, I know what Alex Earl is
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  sitting on. And I don't think that Alex
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  Cooper knows what Alex Earl is getting on.
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  That's what Brianna Chicken Fries been saying.
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  And she's like, just because Alex Cooper says there's no NDA,
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  like doesn't mean there's not. So I don't know you guys.
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  I need to know what Brianna thinks Alex Earl is sitting on.
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  That's what I need to know. OK, the next story that I have
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  for you guys today, this is a quick one, but there are reports
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  everywhere that Kendall Jenner and Jacob Allordy are dating and
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  have been dating for the past couple of months.
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  So rumors started circulating when they were spotted together
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  Coachella weekend one. But now sources are allegedly
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  confirming to all these different outlets, entertainment
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  outlets that I would say are pretty legit like People and TMZ
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  and stuff like that. So they were apparently set up
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  by Kylie. Quote, Kylie was around Jacob a
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  lot during Timothy Chalamet's award season marathon because
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  Jacob was nominated for Frankenstein and Timothy was
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  nominated for Marty Supreme. The source explained Kylie liked
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  him and thought he would be good for Kenny.
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  So she was like, girl, get on it.
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  Date this guy already Jacob Allordy just really out here
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  dating every single girl and he just keeps like climbing the
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  rungs, you know what I mean he goes from like C Lister to like
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  B Lister to A Lister like he's really just like climbing his
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  way to the top and I'm happy for him I'm happy he's making his
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  dreams come true. All right the last word that I
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  have for you guys today. Normally, a casting would not be
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  a very mini scroll story, but the new cast of the secret lives
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  of Mormon wives OC spinoff has been announced and it is filled
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  with influencers who we frequently discuss here.
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  So there will be a California spinoff of secret lives of
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  Mormon wives. We've known about that for a
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  while, but now the cast members have been announced.
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  There were questions about how many of the OG cast members
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  would be on it and it seems seems like Jen Affleck will be
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  the only OG one who is like a mainstay cast member.
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  I'm sure we will get appearances from like Macy and Michaela and
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  stuff. However, Jen apparently is like
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  actually cast on the show so she's the only OG one.
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  And then we have Aspen Ovard. You guys, my best friend and I
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  were texting about this. Losing our minds because Aspen
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  Ovard an OG YouTube starring on a reality show when she has had
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  so much stuff happened in her life over the past couple of
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  years and we have all been dying to know.
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  And she like teases it, but like doesn't really tell us anything.
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  It's like what happened with Parker?
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  What happened with Parker's mom? What is going on with your
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  throuple? Like I need to know this tea.
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  So yes, I'm so excited to see Aspen.
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  I really hope that she's not like such a big poll that she
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  gets away with not really sharing very much.
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  I kind of fear that might be the case because I do not agree with
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  the fact that like, if you are joining a reality show, like you
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  have to put it all out there. I, I still believe you should be
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  able to keep like certain things private, but I think for the
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  most part, you should be, you should be required to share
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  what's actually going on in your life.
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  Bobby Altoff as we know, Tik toker podcaster, possible
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  industry plant. I don't think she's an industry
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  plant, but I remember when her podcast launched, she had, she
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  had all these like ginormous a listers on it and people were
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  like literally how? And also as we know, she's
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  Drake's OB, so I think that'll be interesting.
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  She's been going through it. She's also very like honest on
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  Tiktok, so I think she will be good for a reality show.
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  Avery Woods influencer Cheers podcast.
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  Also her podcast is under unwell.
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  I think it's still under unwell. It was.
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  She's also really close with big names like Aspen and Jaclyn
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  Hill. Oh my God I would pass away if
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  there was a Jaclyn Hill cameo. Not because I love Jaclyn Hill,
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  but she's just like such an iconic OG figure in Internet
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  culture. That would be very cool to see
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  her on the show. Salome Andrea.
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  So she's a creator who lives between Utah and Cali.
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  Again, Influencer creator vibes. McCall Dipran who is the sister
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  of Macy who is obviously on the OG secret lives of Mormon wives
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  series. So it's giving like Neppo's
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  sister Ashley Peace and Chandler Hickinson.
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  I did not know that all of these people were connected to the
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  Mormon culture. I'm interested to see how
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  connected they are because even with the original show we know a
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  lot of them are ex Mormon or just like ingratiated in like
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  Utah culture but not necessarily still Mormon themselves.
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  And I'm interested to see how many of these people are
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  actually LDSI know Aspen's not. I think she just grew up in
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  Utah, right? Bobby?
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  I did not know, but maybe that was like part of her initial
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  lore. I didn't follow her like back in
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  the day when she used to. What did she do?
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  She used to like call her kids by like really funny names like
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  rock and stone or something like I don't know.
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  It was really, really funny when she was like first posting on
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  TikTok. I wasn't really following her.
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  So maybe she used to talk more about that.
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  But yeah, I guess we'll see. I am really excited for this
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  though. My friend was like TV is finally
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  catching up like casting OG Youtubers on a reality show like
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  this is iconic. So I'm really excited.
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  Anyways guys, that's it for mini scroll today.
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