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Britney Spears' new battle ... in court · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: From The Mickey mouse Club all the way to becoming
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Speaker 1: a resident performer in Vegas, with strings of platinum records
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Speaker 1: along the way. Britney Spears now in the needs for
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Speaker 1: an entirely different matter. What Now? Take a listen. Britney
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Speaker 1: Spears began entertaining at a very young age. At the
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Speaker 1: tender age of eight, she auditions for The Mickey mouse Club,
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Speaker 1: but is rejected for being too young. At age ten,
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Speaker 1: came an appearance on Star Search. Our card champion is
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Speaker 1: going for win number two and sings to become next
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Speaker 1: year's Champion. Does that sound nice? Gang? Next Year's Champion? Okay?
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Speaker 1: From Kenwood, Louisiana, Here is ten year old Britney Spears.
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Speaker 1: Spears wins the first round of competition, but loses the second.
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Speaker 1: Spears auditions again for The Mickey mouse Club at eleven
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Speaker 1: and joins the cast that ultimately become household names actress
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Speaker 1: Carrie Russell, singer Christina Aguilera, and Justin timber Lake. When
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Speaker 1: The Mickey mouse Club is canceled, Spears is signed to
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Speaker 1: Jive Records. In nineteen ninety eight, she records her debut album,
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Speaker 1: hit Me Baby One More Time. The lead single debuts
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Speaker 1: at number one on the Billboard two hundred wow, number one,
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Speaker 1: the first of many to come. But in all that,
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Speaker 1: Britney Spears who many people mock and make fun of.
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't know why she's making bank right now,
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Speaker 1: sitting on millions of dollars. She's beautiful, she's young, she's talented,
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Speaker 1: and she is a mother of two little boys. So
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Speaker 1: what's to throw a stone at. Well. Haters will be haters,
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Speaker 1: but I'm certainly not one of them. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to the have you got on the point where you
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Speaker 1: see yourself as a role model to all these other
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Speaker 1: young girls out there that are looking up to you
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Speaker 1: and the people what you say and do well? I mean,
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Speaker 1: if they want to put me up on a pedestal
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Speaker 1: like that, that's really sweet. And it's just that I'm
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Speaker 1: human and I make mistakes just like everybody else, and
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Speaker 1: I can just try and be a good person for
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Speaker 1: me and for them as well. But it's blattering though
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Speaker 1: that if they view me as being that way. Do
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Speaker 1: you get a hyper sensitive about what you're saying or
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Speaker 1: doing on camera? So I'm worrying about what people are
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Speaker 1: going to say? No, not really, I mean I can
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Speaker 1: just be myself and you know, if they have a
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Speaker 1: problem with that, then you know what can I do.
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Speaker 1: I wish it was that easy for Britney Spears. I
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Speaker 1: wish it was just that easy that she could shrug
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Speaker 1: off her latest court battle where she goes head to
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Speaker 1: head with none other than her own father. After being
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Speaker 1: declared a role model for millions of young girls all
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Speaker 1: across the country now for years, a downward spiral begins.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at Kate c a l.
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Speaker 1: The spiral downward continues for pop star Britney Spears. She
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Speaker 1: was rushed to the hospital. Police say she was under
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Speaker 1: the influence. The drama unfolded after three hours standoff over
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Speaker 1: a custody of Spirits children. Kay Olines Dave Meekham live
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Speaker 1: now at Seedars sign I with more. Dave, Good afternoon, Mio.
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Speaker 1: We don't have an update on her right now. They're
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Speaker 1: not saying much here at the hospital. But seven o'clock
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Speaker 1: last night, you know they've been sharing custody of these
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Speaker 1: little boys. Britney was supposed to be turning over the
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Speaker 1: little boys to Federline ex husband. There never happened. Three
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Speaker 1: and just outside the gates of her home off moll
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Speaker 1: And Drive at Colwater Canyon two and a half hours
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Speaker 1: after police first showed up. All of this images that
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Speaker 1: will forever follow the twenty six year old pop star,
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Speaker 1: yet another chapter in and already extremely public life, much
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Speaker 1: of it on camera, much as this girl's life now
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Speaker 1: a woman of course, has been in the public eye,
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Speaker 1: so her latest war with her own father is also public.
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Speaker 1: Can the courts protect Britney Spears with all of her fame,
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Speaker 1: all of her money, all of her talent? Seemingly not
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Speaker 1: you earlier heard from our friends at Fame Media and
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Speaker 1: the paparazzi, but now take a list of to our
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Speaker 1: friends at crime online dot com. The spiral seemingly going downward.
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Speaker 1: A conservator was appointed for Britney Spears after a series
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Speaker 1: of very public breakdowns. In two thousand and seven, Spears
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Speaker 1: shaved her head and attacked a photographer's car with an umbrella.
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Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, she was put under a
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Speaker 1: five to one five O hold in a psychiatric hospital
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Speaker 1: twice for a mental health evaluation. At that time, Jamie
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Speaker 1: Spears petitioned the court for emergency temporary conservatorship. That agreement
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Speaker 1: gave Britney's father the legal right to oversee decisions about
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Speaker 1: Britney's estate and health, including negotiating business deals and restricting
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Speaker 1: who can see her. Conservatorship had regular check ins throughout
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Speaker 1: the years and kept getting extended for over twelve years.
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Speaker 1: Spears father Jamie has reportedly had full control over Britney's
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Speaker 1: financial and medical affairs. The actual terms of the conservatorship
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Speaker 1: have not been made public. We all remember the photo
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Speaker 1: of Britney Spears sitting on a curve, a curve by
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Speaker 1: guess in La crime or makeup was a mess and
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Speaker 1: the paparazzi was closing in on her like vultures. It
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Speaker 1: was a horrible, horrible moment that on top of the
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Speaker 1: outburst attacking a car after getting her head shaved, after
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Speaker 1: being admitted into the hospital for a psychiatric hold. But
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Speaker 1: this conservatorship, what is it? What does it mean? And
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Speaker 1: why is a movement afoot to quote free Britney Spears
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Speaker 1: with me and all Star panel to break it down
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Speaker 1: and put it back together again. First of all, a
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Speaker 1: very high profile estate lawyer, managing partner at Clark Skateoff
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Speaker 1: PA in Florida, founder of probate stars dot com Jeffrey H.
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Speaker 1: Skateoff is with US Psychoanalyst to the Stars, joining us
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Speaker 1: out of La. Doctor Bethany Marshall, star of a new
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Speaker 1: hit series on Netflix, Bleeding Empire, and you can find
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Speaker 1: her a doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Mike Herman, Private
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Speaker 1: investigator at Herman Investigates dot com, former police lieutenant and
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Speaker 1: investigator focusing on guardianships, parental rights, terminations and conservatorships and
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Speaker 1: from La. Alexis Terreschuk Crime Online dot com investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: and also with Leadstories dot Com. Alexis I mean. Britney
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Speaker 1: Spears has been an icon, a fixture and pop music
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Speaker 1: for decades since No really, she was ten when she
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Speaker 1: hit it big. Even my daughter Lucy, who now is thirteen,
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Speaker 1: knows Britney Spears and a lot of her lyrics. What's happening?
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Speaker 1: We don't want to see Britney Spears sitting on a
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Speaker 1: curb in La basically being attacked by the proparazzi as
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Speaker 1: her eyeliner goes down her face. I don't want that,
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Speaker 1: not just because she says star, but because she is
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Speaker 1: a mother of two boys that will go online and
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Speaker 1: read everything there is about their mother. What's happening, Alexis
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Speaker 1: so Britney has been at the photo that you talked
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Speaker 1: about her. Right, There was a time in Britney Spears'
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Speaker 1: life it was so troubled. She is somebody that everybody love.
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Speaker 1: You never hear a bad word about. I love Britney Spears. Yea,
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Speaker 1: even when that horrible denim outfit she wore with Justin Bieber,
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Speaker 1: I thought she was precious, right right, go aheady, She's adorable,
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Speaker 1: she's pretty, she's nice. One time, I think it was
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Speaker 1: like the Daytona five hundred did the Gentleman starter engine,
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Speaker 1: as cute as can be, just really a wholesome young woman.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know if I go that far, but
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Speaker 1: go ahead. She had a serious mental breakdown in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seven and two thousand and eight Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about Britney Spears,
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Speaker 1: the pop icon, in a court battle with her own father.
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Speaker 1: How has this happened? Take a listen to our friend
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Speaker 1: at GMA, Amy Roebock. The court hearing comes as a
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Speaker 1: new documentary Framing Britney Spears takes a closer look at
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Speaker 1: her conservatorship, which was put in place more than a
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Speaker 1: decade ago, following what appeared to be a public meltdown,
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Speaker 1: bitter divorce and custody battle, and two hospitalizations. The documentary
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Speaker 1: also follows her loyal army of fans in the Free
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Speaker 1: Britney Movement, a group which claims the Conservatorship is being
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Speaker 1: used to control her against her will. If I'm wrong
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Speaker 1: and one day Britney does come out and tells us
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Speaker 1: that we're wrong and leave our alone, we will do
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Speaker 1: just that on Thursday. So I'm showing up outside court
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Speaker 1: so I can say it's something to Britney Spears. I
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Speaker 1: would say, Brittany, we're here to support you. Earlier this week,
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Speaker 1: Spears tweeting, each person has their story and their take
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Speaker 1: on other people's stories. Remember, no matter what we think
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Speaker 1: we know about a person's life, it is nothing compared
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Speaker 1: to the actual person living behind the lens. Straight Out
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Speaker 1: to Special Guests joining us Jeffrey H. Skate Off joining
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Speaker 1: us out of Florida, founder of proby Stars dot Com. Jeffrey,
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Speaker 1: this conservatorship has been in place where I guess twelve
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Speaker 1: years and when people are literally taking to the streets
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Speaker 1: over a conservatorship, I think it's time to sit up
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Speaker 1: and pay attention, now, Jeffrey. At first I didn't make
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Speaker 1: much of it because I thought that the court was
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Speaker 1: watching out from Britney Spears, her father was the mother.
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Speaker 1: But when people are actually protesting, I think it begs
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Speaker 1: a closer look. What exactly is a conservatorship and are
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Speaker 1: they supposed to last this long? A conservatorship is a
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Speaker 1: court administered proceeding whereby the probate Court will appoint people
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Speaker 1: to manage the affairs of somebody who the Court has
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Speaker 1: already found to be in need of having their affairs managed.
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Speaker 1: In this case, Brittany has believe it or not, three conservators.
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Speaker 1: There's one conservator who handles her personhood including her healthcare decisions,
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Speaker 1: and that person was appointed by the court I believe
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Speaker 1: last year when her father wanted to step down as
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Speaker 1: the conservator of her person The court has also appointed
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Speaker 1: twelve years ago her father, Jamie Spears, to be her
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Speaker 1: conservator of her estate or her property, and in the
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Speaker 1: last few days the court also appointed a co conservator
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Speaker 1: Bessemer Trust, to also manage her economic, financial and business affairs.
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Speaker 1: So having two having three conservators at one time is
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Speaker 1: highly unusual and in my experience. I've never seen that before,
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Speaker 1: but the court must have found that it was warranted
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Speaker 1: in this case. Let me understand Jes Skateoff joining me
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Speaker 1: out of Florida, estate planning lawyer, founder of probate stars
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Speaker 1: dot com. So Britney Spears has three different conservators and
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Speaker 1: other words, people watching over her and her estate. Alexis
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Speaker 1: how old is Britney Spears? She is thirty nine. She
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Speaker 1: will be forty on our second. When did that happen?
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Speaker 1: And also how much was she pulling in in Vegas?
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Speaker 1: I believe it was fifty million dollars. I would come.
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Speaker 1: So you got a thirty nine year old mother of
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Speaker 1: two raking in fifty million dollars in Vegas and she
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Speaker 1: needs people watching over her. I'm not saying that she
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Speaker 1: doesn't or that she does, but I'm interested to learn.
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Speaker 1: Mike Krman, private an investigator at Herman Investigations dot com
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Speaker 1: and specialty guardianships, parental rights terminations and conservatorships to hear it,
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Speaker 1: the dad Jamie Spears is the evil villain, but there
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Speaker 1: are actually three conservators. He's not doing it alone, so
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Speaker 1: one are the other two conservators bad? Also, that's kind
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Speaker 1: of hard for me to take in. In fact, as
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Speaker 1: I recall, Britney Spears agreed wanted one of the conservators
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Speaker 1: a female, to guard over her. Mike Kerman, PI, what's
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Speaker 1: it all about? Well, one of the things a lot
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Speaker 1: of people don't understand is a lot of terms in
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Speaker 1: the confidential reports they are private. That information doesn't get out.
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Speaker 1: So what the investigator is doing is they interview both
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Speaker 1: both the proposed conservatives and the conservators, and they document
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Speaker 1: all this information. And so what most public's not hearing
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Speaker 1: is what actually in the report, what Britney herself has said,
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Speaker 1: what other information has come into show whether or not
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Speaker 1: she is at risk. Okay, wait, I think I'm understanding
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Speaker 1: what you're saying with me, is Mike Herman probably an
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Speaker 1: investigator who focuses on conservators ships. I've never heard of
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Speaker 1: a PI that works with conservatorships and parental rights terminations
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Speaker 1: and guardianships. But that's a fantastic niche because when you're
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Speaker 1: determining an issue like this, you have to know all
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Speaker 1: the facts. So I think what you're saying is, we
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Speaker 1: don't know what's in all those medical reports. We don't
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Speaker 1: know why a judge has repeatedly put a conservator over
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Speaker 1: Britney Spears person, her health decisions and so forth, and
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Speaker 1: her finances. There's something we don't know, is that what
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Speaker 1: you're telling me. Yes, and most of these cases there's
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Speaker 1: potential risk out there that comes light as part of
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Speaker 1: the investigation, and all that information goes to the court
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Speaker 1: and the judge makes the final decision from there. Guys,
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to Samata Start,
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Speaker 1: director of Framing Britney Spears. It's very confusing to us
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Speaker 1: because what we do know about Jamie is that when
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Speaker 1: when Britney was growing up, he struggled with alcoholism. We
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Speaker 1: know he went to rehab. We know he had had
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Speaker 1: trouble managing money and filed for bankruptcy. He and Lynn
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Speaker 1: together and it really you really don't see that much
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Speaker 1: of him in Britney's life until this conservatorship happened. And
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Speaker 1: you know, people a lot of the times they're asking me,
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Speaker 1: why was Jamie chosen over Lynn Britney's mother. Britney's mother,
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Speaker 1: as far as we know, didn't apply to be a conservator,
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Speaker 1: so Jamie was chosen. We also know that there were
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Speaker 1: other people involved with so it's not her father by
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Speaker 1: himself there. You know, there's lawyers, there's business managers, there's
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Speaker 1: other people. So it's really unclear how he became the person,
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Speaker 1: you know, the face of this. So Jeffrey skate off.
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Speaker 1: The mother did not apply to be a conservator, and
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Speaker 1: the father Jamie Spears, And there's the daughter or the
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Speaker 1: younger sister, Jamie Lynn Spears. The father got the task
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Speaker 1: of being conservator. There are two other conservators. Let me
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Speaker 1: ask you this skate off, how much money what a
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Speaker 1: conservator like Jamie Spears make off being his daughter's conservator
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Speaker 1: or kind of a guardian. Well, the court hits the
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Speaker 1: authority to determine the compensation of the conservator. In many
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Speaker 1: cases it's an hourly rate and in other cases it
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Speaker 1: could be a percent of the assets that the conservator
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Speaker 1: of the estate is actually managing. So it's within the
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Speaker 1: court's discretion. So he's managing a state of multimillion dollars state.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, if it's one hundred million dollars state,
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Speaker 1: then he's at least making a million dollars. If he
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Speaker 1: only makes one percent, which I doubt, Nancy, I know
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Speaker 1: how much he's making. Jump in he makes one hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars a year to manage the estate.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I was expecting a much bigger number. Guys,
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Speaker 1: you just heard Samantha start speaking to our friend Christian.
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Speaker 1: I'm onpoor. Now take a listen to Amy Roebock at GMA,
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Speaker 1: the Pop Stars lawyer who has previously said that thirty
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Speaker 1: nine year old is afraid of her father and refuses
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Speaker 1: to perform while he is in control of her finances,
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Speaker 1: alleging it's no secret his client doesn't want her father
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Speaker 1: as conservator. Jamie's lawyers striking back, saying that in court
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Speaker 1: documents from twenty nineteen, Spears herself had requested for Jamie
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Speaker 1: to be her sole conservator. A judge saying Bessemer Trust,
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Speaker 1: which was appointed co conservator of the star's estate in November,
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Speaker 1: will continue its role, both sides agreeing that Jamie and
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Speaker 1: the trust needs come to an agreement and work on
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Speaker 1: an investment plan for the singer's estate overnight. Jamie's attorney
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Speaker 1: telling ABC News in a statement that he looks forward
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Speaker 1: to working with Bessemer, adding his love for his daughter
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Speaker 1: and dedication to protecting her is clearly apparent to the court.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the
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Speaker 1: movement Free Brittany Spears, free her from her conservatorship with
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Speaker 1: her father. But we were just hearing that she herself
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Speaker 1: picked him as a conservator or did she? You are
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Speaker 1: also hearing from Mike Herman, private investigator, that we're not
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Speaker 1: privy to medical records, mental exams that all play a
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Speaker 1: part in her having a conservatorship. In the recent days.
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Speaker 1: Out to you, Alexa Terrestia, the cry for someone to
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Speaker 1: quote decipher a code has arisen. Britney Spears barking a
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Speaker 1: quote secret message speculation amongst her fans because she releases
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Speaker 1: an image of her playing scrabble and the word that
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Speaker 1: she creates is quit quyt spelled backwards, and when asked
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Speaker 1: about it, she says, Oh, it's fun to make up
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Speaker 1: funny words when you're playing scrabble. Tell me about the
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Speaker 1: most recent controversy, Alexis. So fans that are supporting Brittany
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Speaker 1: and this Free Britney movement believe that through her Instagram,
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Speaker 1: which everybody has said, all the people around her, Brittany
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Speaker 1: runs all by herself. She doesn't have a social media manager,
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Speaker 1: an assistant or anything that takes care of Brittany does
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Speaker 1: it all by herself that she is leaving the easter
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Speaker 1: eggs or secret messages for her fans, and this is
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Speaker 1: one of them that she wants to quit, the out
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Speaker 1: of the Conservative ship. There also she also puts roses
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Speaker 1: in her pictures, rose emojis, and her messages. It's saying
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Speaker 1: that and that's also a symbol that she wants out
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Speaker 1: and that she actually was saying that there would be
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Speaker 1: a movie, her version of it, it it would be The
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Speaker 1: Rose Story. And then just at the leave yesterday she said, oh,
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Speaker 1: just kidding guys, So they Britty might be having a
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Speaker 1: lot of fun with her fans trying to get them
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Speaker 1: to decipher the clues that she is leaving for them
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Speaker 1: to Dodger Beth and marsh come bin about this, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna This reminds me of when my
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Speaker 1: brother thought, remember when the Beatles play. He was a teen.
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Speaker 1: I was just a little girl. But I remember the
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Speaker 1: big controversy Paul is dead. Wasn't it Paul that was
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Speaker 1: supposed to be dead if you played the record backwards
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Speaker 1: and walls just some crazy, you know, insane conspiracy plot
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Speaker 1: because she puts a rose on our Instagram photos that
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Speaker 1: is supposed to tell me something. She quick backwards. If
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Speaker 1: she wants to give him a message, why doesn't she
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Speaker 1: say storm the courthouse, I want out of my conservatorship, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I think the answer to this is each fan believes
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Speaker 1: that they have a special and unique relationship with her,
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Speaker 1: and she's sending special messages. But there's another side to
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Speaker 1: this story, and I see this in clinical practice here
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Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. Some people are very vulnerable to being
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Speaker 1: taken advantage as I have a patient to the trust
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Speaker 1: fund baby. She third generation wealth. Both of her siblings
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Speaker 1: are dead. She's the sole inheritor of a family fortune.
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Speaker 1: But she had a concussive disorder in childhood. She competed
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Speaker 1: horses repeatedly thrown and because of that, she doesn't her
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Speaker 1: prefriendal cortex is not really intact. So what that means
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Speaker 1: that she has really poor judgment and everybody takes advantage
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Speaker 1: of her. So if somebody says give me one hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, she'll write a checkout for a hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: She just gives her money away like water, and what
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Speaker 1: the public might consider, I don't know what's happening with
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Speaker 1: Britney Spears. But some stars are extraordinarily vulnerable to being
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Speaker 1: taken advantage of. So the conservatorship is not just to
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Speaker 1: invest her money or to make medical decisions, but it's
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Speaker 1: so that she won't give it all away. The other
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Speaker 1: thing is that if somebody has bipolar illness and I
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Speaker 1: don't know, doctor Bethnie, can we put this in regular
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Speaker 1: people talk so even I could understand it? In other words, men,
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. Men come in and Britney Spears life
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Speaker 1: not judging. I don't care, but I do care if
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Speaker 1: they take advantage of her and take her money and
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Speaker 1: use her it. Men. Man, what I'm talking about. I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that women need separate because they're not smart
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Speaker 1: enough to handle a man. I think we've disapproved that
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Speaker 1: a long time ago. But skate off people are vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: And when I think it was alexas Terreschuk told me
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Speaker 1: that the dad is only making one hundred thirty thousand dollars. Now,
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Speaker 1: to me, that's a lot of money, but I thought
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Speaker 1: it was going to be some huge exorbitant amount. That
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Speaker 1: he's making a couple of million dollars, Why would he
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Speaker 1: want to take all this abuse for a hundred grand.
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Speaker 1: He could write his memoirs for a million. Well, that's
22:33
Speaker 1: certainly a mystery. I will say though, that court records
22:36
Speaker 1: for conservatorships and guardianships are sealed, and that's what's been
22:40
Speaker 1: reported in the media, But we don't know for sure
22:42
Speaker 1: if that's the actual true number. Only the people who
22:45
Speaker 1: have access to the records, which would be the immediate
22:48
Speaker 1: family and the lawyers Britain yourself, would know for sure
22:51
Speaker 1: that that's the case. Skate Off, this is really hard
22:54
Speaker 1: for me to believe. Jeffrey H. Skate Off Guys is
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Speaker 1: a renowned state planner joining US out of Florida, founder
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Speaker 1: of probate stars dot com. Jeffrey, I mean, you know,
23:06
Speaker 1: my expertise is as a litigator, trying case is striking juries,
23:11
Speaker 1: analyzing crime scenes. Conservatorships. I don't know as much about
23:17
Speaker 1: them as I'd like to, but it's just seems, you know,
23:20
Speaker 1: when it comes to a conspiracy. It's really hard for
23:22
Speaker 1: me to imagine Jeffrey skate offf that a judge, probably
23:27
Speaker 1: his or her law clerk, the three conservators she has,
23:34
Speaker 1: various lawyers who are part of this are all part
23:38
Speaker 1: of a get Britney scheme that all of them are
23:41
Speaker 1: colluding to somehow hurt her. And I would like to
23:44
Speaker 1: point out that since Spears the Dad has been in charge,
23:49
Speaker 1: we have not seen her sitting on a curb crying.
23:52
Speaker 1: We have not seen her shaving her head or beating
23:55
Speaker 1: a car with an umbrella. I mean, her life seems
23:59
Speaker 1: to be on track. Will you raise an interesting point?
24:03
Speaker 1: Because is best I can tell. Brittany has not filed
24:07
Speaker 1: a petition or at least had a herd in court
24:10
Speaker 1: to terminate the conservatorship. All she's been working on is
24:13
Speaker 1: changing who the conservators are. But any person who's subject
24:17
Speaker 1: to a conservatorship can petition, the court determinate it. And
24:21
Speaker 1: it doesn't appear that that's been done, And so there
24:24
Speaker 1: must be a reason why that's so. And I think
24:25
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. It's because she
24:28
Speaker 1: actually kind of accepts the need to have this in place.
24:32
Speaker 1: Another issue would be Mike Herman and PI joining us
24:35
Speaker 1: as specialty is conservatorships. How much money does she make
24:40
Speaker 1: and then she makes millions of dollars headlining in Vegas?
24:46
Speaker 1: Hasn't she been put on an allowance by the conservator
24:50
Speaker 1: ship So she's out there working like a mule every
24:54
Speaker 1: night on stage, or was as she's only getting a
24:58
Speaker 1: very small amount of this as an allowance. Well, that's
25:02
Speaker 1: another misunderstanding. A lot of people have one thing with
25:05
Speaker 1: the States is biannual every two years, unless the judge
25:10
Speaker 1: orders it more frequently. There's an extreme accounting that is done,
25:14
Speaker 1: and every dime that goes anywhere has to be accounted
25:17
Speaker 1: for and ahead of time. It is normally compromiser. They
25:21
Speaker 1: come up with a decision for what an allowance is
25:23
Speaker 1: going to be, some type of livable wage, and whatever
25:26
Speaker 1: the allowance in most cases than the Conservative has the
25:29
Speaker 1: right to use that as they seem fit. It's just
25:31
Speaker 1: to control all the funds. So she's not taken advantage
25:35
Speaker 1: of to dator. Bethany Marshall Jackie here in the studio
25:39
Speaker 1: is waving frantically at me. She wants me to point
25:42
Speaker 1: out Britney Spears wants a dominant and ascending force in
25:46
Speaker 1: pop culture. Has a net worth of sixty million. But yeah,
25:50
Speaker 1: other mousketeers such as Simpson and Lopez have built fortunes
25:55
Speaker 1: of one hundred million dollars. Okay, so she only has
26:01
Speaker 1: sixty million. But on the other hand, they have ventured
26:07
Speaker 1: into other areas like Jessica Simpson has a shoe line,
26:11
Speaker 1: a clothing line of this and of that. And also
26:16
Speaker 1: they haven't had the legal troubles Britney Spears has had.
26:19
Speaker 1: And let me point out on the other end of
26:21
Speaker 1: that spectrum, Miss Jackie, attention, please, there are a lot
26:25
Speaker 1: of mousketeers who've ended up in jail and pushing a
26:30
Speaker 1: grocery cart around LA with their belongings in it. So
26:35
Speaker 1: you know, before you compare her sixth paltry sixty million
26:38
Speaker 1: dollars savings to Simpson's one hundred million, let's remember all
26:44
Speaker 1: the mousketeers that didn't make it. Let's have a moment
26:47
Speaker 1: of silence for all those child start that didn't make it. Okay,
26:50
Speaker 1: moment over jump in Bethany Nancy in my Beverly Hills office,
26:56
Speaker 1: I have an ex mouseketeer come in and glow that
27:00
Speaker 1: she wasn't like the one that was pushing the shopping cart.
27:03
Speaker 1: It was a moment. Did you hear that Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace? Guys back to you know someone I
27:22
Speaker 1: think we all love and feel that we know is
27:25
Speaker 1: Dr Bethany Marshall was pointing out Britney spears. Why are
27:29
Speaker 1: people literally taking to the street insisting that Brittney be
27:35
Speaker 1: quote freed, freed from what the conservatorship of her father?
27:40
Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about. Somehow he has turned into
27:43
Speaker 1: in the fairies figure. Is there any indication he's ever
27:47
Speaker 1: done anything wrong? Guys, take a listen to this. You know,
27:51
Speaker 1: it's really difficult because so many of the court records
27:54
Speaker 1: are sealed. A lot of them also include medical records,
27:57
Speaker 1: which are always sealed. The central mystery of our film
28:01
Speaker 1: really is how could somebody make millions of dollars performing
28:04
Speaker 1: in Vegas, headlining her own show, you know, appearing on
28:08
Speaker 1: The X Factor, and making albums and also qualify for
28:13
Speaker 1: this layer of protection which is usually meant for people
28:17
Speaker 1: who are incapable of making decisions in their own best interest.
28:21
Speaker 1: So it's very mysterious, and we don't know what the
28:24
Speaker 1: legal reasoning is behind it because all the records are sealed. Guys,
28:27
Speaker 1: you were just hearing our friends. Samantha Stark, director of
28:30
Speaker 1: Framing Brittain, spears, she's speaking to another friend at CNN,
28:35
Speaker 1: Christian I'm on poor, So what does it all mean?
28:39
Speaker 1: You know, I think it just rubs a lot of
28:41
Speaker 1: people wrong. To you, Jeffrey skate Off to think that
28:44
Speaker 1: she's working like crazy and she's making a big income,
28:48
Speaker 1: but she's on an allowance, so to speak like I
28:52
Speaker 1: would give the twins an allowance, that doesn't seem right.
28:56
Speaker 1: She's thirty nine year old mother of two. So what
28:58
Speaker 1: do you say to that skate off? Well, she could,
29:02
Speaker 1: of course ask the court to terminate the conservatorship, which
29:05
Speaker 1: apparently she hasn't done, so she must not be all
29:08
Speaker 1: that unhappy about it. Furthermore, the court, the probate court
29:13
Speaker 1: that oversees the conservatorship, will receive an accounting from the
29:17
Speaker 1: conservator every year or every other year, and the court
29:20
Speaker 1: has auditors that grow through everything. So if there's a problem,
29:23
Speaker 1: and especially with a high profile situation like this, they
29:26
Speaker 1: will find it and pointed out to the judge. And
29:28
Speaker 1: what I will say is that under California law, for
29:31
Speaker 1: the most part, a conservator can only be removed for
29:34
Speaker 1: cause if the conservator has done something wrong, and so
29:38
Speaker 1: previous attempts that have been made to remove her father
29:40
Speaker 1: as the conservator have apparently not succeeded. The only thing
29:44
Speaker 1: that I can suppose is that because the court has
29:46
Speaker 1: found no evidence of any wrongdoing. Question, that's why he's
29:49
Speaker 1: still You said that there are previous attempts to throw
29:53
Speaker 1: father Jamie Spears off as conservator. Yeah, that's what just happened.
29:57
Speaker 1: And instead of throwing off her father as the servator,
30:00
Speaker 1: the court left in place him as well as Bessemer
30:03
Speaker 1: as co conservators of her estate. And who in fact
30:06
Speaker 1: petition the court to have him thrown off. Jeffrey, Oh, well,
30:09
Speaker 1: Brittany could do that at any time. But who did
30:12
Speaker 1: Alexis Jeffrey Skadoff is telling us there was a court
30:16
Speaker 1: request I have Jamie Spears thrown off? Who made the request? Alexis.
30:21
Speaker 1: Brittany has her own court appointed attorney, Sam Ingraham. Ingraham, sorry,
30:26
Speaker 1: and he had been her personal attorney within this conservatorship
30:31
Speaker 1: for many, many, many years. So he has said, you know,
30:34
Speaker 1: Brittany doesn't want her dad to be in charge. She
30:37
Speaker 1: wanted the third party person to be included. So what
30:41
Speaker 1: happened recently and Michael Wright and Jeff's right that Brittany's
30:45
Speaker 1: dad doesn't want this third party involved, but the judge said, no, Jamie,
30:50
Speaker 1: the third party will be involved. But the judge did
30:52
Speaker 1: not remove Jamie. Jamie is still on. He just has
30:55
Speaker 1: to share power with the other conservator. But you know,
30:59
Speaker 1: the one thing that's interesting that is public in court
31:02
Speaker 1: records is the attorney They make about four hundred thousand
31:06
Speaker 1: dollars a year from this conservatorship. Whoa wait a minute,
31:09
Speaker 1: So while Spears the dad makes about one hundred and
31:13
Speaker 1: thirty grand, we think the lawyers make four hundred grand each. Yeah,
31:17
Speaker 1: but this is a really complicated empire. You know, she
31:24
Speaker 1: has records and music and branding and images. It's not
31:30
Speaker 1: just you know that she makes a small salary every
31:33
Speaker 1: year from a simple job. She's it's a multi million
31:37
Speaker 1: dollar empire that they have to manage for her, and
31:39
Speaker 1: they've done it so well. She does have sixty million dollars.
31:42
Speaker 1: If it would you know, if this was two thousand
31:44
Speaker 1: and eight, Britney would have given all her money to
31:46
Speaker 1: the Bahaparassi she was dating, and she would have spent
31:49
Speaker 1: it all in a store in Beverly Hills at three
31:50
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. So they have really protected her
31:53
Speaker 1: brand and her money. Jeffrey skate offf you have reiterated
31:58
Speaker 1: that Britney Spears could ask the court to and the
32:02
Speaker 1: conservativeship or get rid of a conservator. Well, she did
32:07
Speaker 1: ask for her father to be removed, but the judge
32:11
Speaker 1: kept him on right because under California law, the court
32:14
Speaker 1: has to find some evidence of wrongdoing by the conservator.
32:17
Speaker 1: The only thing that we can assume is that the
32:19
Speaker 1: court did not find sufficient evidence of any wrongdoing on
32:22
Speaker 1: his part to remove him. And when you say the
32:24
Speaker 1: court has its own auditors to review the records, is
32:29
Speaker 1: that how it works? Mike Kirman, private investigator. Yeah, some
32:32
Speaker 1: courts actually have financial attorneys that will go through and
32:36
Speaker 1: review all the accountings. It compends from court to court,
32:41
Speaker 1: but every time there's an accounting file, there is somebody
32:44
Speaker 1: who goes through it and make sure all the expenditures
32:47
Speaker 1: are reasonable and there's nothing outlandish in it. Wow, and
32:52
Speaker 1: that's what you do not want to see as an
32:54
Speaker 1: auditor show up on your front doorstep. That is not
32:59
Speaker 1: what you want to see. Guys. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: Samantha Start, director of Framing Britney Spears speaking to Christian
33:06
Speaker 1: I'm on poor. She was in charge of her personal life,
33:08
Speaker 1: meaning you know, her medical care, like making decisions about
33:13
Speaker 1: her medical care. What who comes to visit her, you know,
33:17
Speaker 1: if she can have security twenty four hours a day
33:19
Speaker 1: and that recently he stepped down from that, and now
33:23
Speaker 1: she has a temporary conservator in charge of her person,
33:26
Speaker 1: but he is still right in charge of her estate,
33:29
Speaker 1: which means, you know, Britney can't sign check, she can't
33:32
Speaker 1: enter into business deals herself. Every single thing she buys
33:35
Speaker 1: has to be listed and monitored by the court. So
33:38
Speaker 1: we saw these court records that showed, you know, five
33:41
Speaker 1: to seventy five at Target, fifteen dollars at Starbucks, every
33:44
Speaker 1: single thing she spends. And this is someone making millions
33:47
Speaker 1: of dollars. So, you know, Lynn Spears recently she has
33:53
Speaker 1: to file it as an interested party because she's not
33:56
Speaker 1: technically part of the conservatorship. But recently she has higher
34:00
Speaker 1: employers on them come to Core and she is also
34:03
Speaker 1: feels like her ex husband should stepped down. So it
34:07
Speaker 1: seems as if the sentiment is growing. Alexis Terreschuk, Crime
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Speaker 1: Online dot Com and lead stories dot com. You've got
34:14
Speaker 1: the mother now entering the fright, Lynn Spears, along with hundreds,
34:19
Speaker 1: if not thousands of people that have literally taken to
34:21
Speaker 1: the streets on this, and you have Britney herself asking
34:25
Speaker 1: for her father to be removed. Yet there are a
34:27
Speaker 1: lot of people, but I think the court is looking
34:30
Speaker 1: back in the history of everything that you know, Lynn
34:33
Speaker 1: Spears was the one who met Sam Letzie in the beginning,
34:36
Speaker 1: and he was that quote unquote s Bengali that there
34:39
Speaker 1: were reports that he was drugging Brittany back in the day.
34:41
Speaker 1: Like the court has been very methodical over more than
34:46
Speaker 1: a decade of who is appropriately taking care of Britney
34:49
Speaker 1: and it's her dad. The thing is, there was an
34:51
Speaker 1: incident in twenty twenty where Britney's dad, Kevin Sutterline, the
34:56
Speaker 1: father of Brittany's children, and her ex husband called the police.
34:59
Speaker 1: Becau has Jamie allegedly hit one of Brittany and Kevin's
35:03
Speaker 1: son and that was a big deal. And that is
35:05
Speaker 1: when this all started that Brittany wanted her dad out
35:08
Speaker 1: because he had allegedly hurt her child. You know, I'm
35:12
Speaker 1: certainly not a shrink, but I do know this. When
35:16
Speaker 1: you don't know a horse, we'll look at the track record.
35:20
Speaker 1: We know what has befallen Brittany Spears in the past.
35:25
Speaker 1: It's a really mixed bag. No one wants to see
35:30
Speaker 1: one of America's sweethearts, sitting back on that curb, crying.
35:36
Speaker 1: So what's the answer. We wait as justice sun falls
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off