Latest / Rusty's Garage / Rosco McGlashan (Part 2)

Transcript

Rosco McGlashan (Part 2) · Rusty's Garage

• 0:02
  A listener production.
• 0:19
  G'day, it's Rusty here, all set to light the wick on part two of my podcast with Roscoe McGlashan, the man who is determined to be the fastest Aussie on earth.
• 0:29
  Now, if you haven't already, head back to the library and check out part one, which will give you a better sense of his lifelong, fearless love of speed and some of the insane machines he's pushed to the limit over the years.
• 0:43
  We begin this second instalment by talking about some of the shows he's put on over time,
• 0:48
  and the unique challenges running jet cars in public areas brings, including one appearance in his hometown, Perth.
• 0:56
  But yeah, that was really Australia, and that was at the sort of poor ground in Perth.
• 1:07
  out in the front and in the river.
• 1:10
  The committee approached me and said, could we bring the land speed car down here and put it on the mound where the car has gone and put the tunnel underneath and fire it up.
• 1:21
  I said, are you guys on drugs?
• 1:22
  They got the idea how loud this thing is, how loud, how much power it puts out.
• 1:25
  They said, no, that's what we're doing.
• 1:32
  I went down, looked at the logistics of it.
• 1:34
  I said, I can do a hell of a lot better show with Aussie one, but the dragster.
• 1:38
  I said, I can run it down Riverside Drive here, go 250 mile out in that Riverside Drive, punch a shoot out.
• 1:44
  One of my guys would pull a quick release on the shoot.
• 1:46
  I'd turn around the corner, come onto the track.
• 1:48
  I'd do laps around the track, through the tunnel,
• 1:50
  And this car, you know, it's a pretty long car, the drag set, get through the tunnel, do this, do that, put on a hell of a show of the drag set.
• 1:55
  You sure you want the Landsby car?
• 1:57
  Yes, we want the Landsby car.
• 1:58
  So we took it down there, look, measured it all up and said, all right, we're going to need to be able to chain this thing down seriously.
• 2:05
  Seriously, we've got to chain it down.
• 2:06
  It's putting out 17 thousand down to thrice, about 36,000 horsepower.
• 2:10
  So what we want is a big concrete, a couple of big concrete blocks and then be able to go off on a V and tie onto these blocks so that the jet blasts can go between them.
• 2:20
  So anyway, they looked at it and I looked at it for a while and anyway, a couple of weeks later, they said, all right, we go, they pay me for deposits to bring the car down and whatever.
• 2:28
  Anyway, they said, oh, we can't get the concrete box.
• 2:30
  The concrete box is going to be too hard to set up and the FIA or something, doesn't like the box here.
• 2:34
  We're not going to be able to remove them in time.
• 2:36
  What we've got was a couple of machines and we've put a couple of bloody machines here and we're in five of them machines.
• 2:42
  I said, they're going to get moved.
• 2:43
  What are you thinking?
• 2:44
  They said, no, wonderful.
• 2:45
  Whatever, anyway, we end up, the day before we've gone into the public liability,
• 2:59
  up your insurance company and just say well up it to I think number five five million overnight I said yeah yeah they're bound to go with that yeah I said this is the gig you guys wanted this is what you got this if you want insurance you would you you you'd cover the insurance and to this day I'll tell the story it's absolutely amazing we changed up this we fired fired the car up noise you guys and I thought just wait for the burner so I didn't let the engine on what we call max dry or max engine
• 3:25
  Waited there for a while, got the temperature up, looked around and made sure it was right.
• 3:28
  Then I kicked it in, the burner, and the burner came on.
• 3:31
  The burner came on this thing, and you could...
• 3:34
  everywhere and the noise even for me sitting inside there was deafening.
• 3:40
  And a very good friend of ours is no longer with us, Gary Majosevic, who is the promoter of, you met Gary who lives down at the Motorplex.
• 3:49
  Gary came home, this is a true story, Gary came running the next day and he said, you are so.
• 3:53
  He didn't recall I was doing the show or whatever.
• 4:01
  25 kilometres away, I don't know, 20 kilometres away, at least down the freeway.
• 4:05
  He said he went to put the key in the front door and he heard his noise.
• 4:08
  And he said, Jesus, it seemed like a jet.
• 4:09
  And he's got an airport, the Genicot airport was pretty near them.
• 4:12
  He thought, I must be someone screwing around with a jet at the airport or something.
• 4:17
  And as he put his key in the lock, as the story told me, he turned the bloody key, the burner came on.
• 4:22
  And he felt the bloody vibration.
• 4:24
  at his house, he said vibrated all the way down the freeway and he felt the vibration in his front door.
• 4:29
  He said, holy shit, McLachlan, you arsehole.
• 4:31
  And I, yeah, evidently broke windows and done all sorts of stuff.
• 4:35
  But yeah, I never got to hear about any of that.
• 4:37
  But anyway, the following year, I said, we might do that again, guys, eh?
• 4:43
  But we ran the drags for him.
• 4:44
  As I say,
• 4:48
  And yeah, a lot of fun.
• 4:50
  When we talk about Aussie Invader, can you give the audience a little bit of background on where the name came from?
• 4:58
  No, there again, when I was with Ken Warby, the car I had was driving.
• 5:05
  It was another guy, Tommy Brown used to drive it.
• 5:08
  The American guy used to drive it.
• 5:10
  He was from Detroit, used to drive it for Ken.
• 5:11
  And when I got the drive, it was called US Invader.
• 5:15
  And I said, we're going to fix that.
• 5:22
  years.
• 5:22
  So, yeah.
• 5:23
  You're at iteration five now, and this thing, Roscoe, is an engineering and aeronautical piece of art in many respects.
• 5:35
  It's, you know, it's bespoke with some of the things that you've created for it.
• 5:38
  This is an audio experience, but if you can, for our listeners, let's walk effectively from the front to the back of the car and talk about it, because it's much like...
• 5:52
  a rocket or a missile lying down horizontal rather than going vertical to the moon or to outer space.
• 6:00
  And then everything else that you've created along the way is designed in many ways to do things that have never been done before.
• 6:11
  Yeah, thanks, Frank.
• 6:16
  The big deal with this rocket is it's a bi-propellant rocket.
• 6:19
  So I spoke earlier about the hydrogen peroxide rockets, which are mono propellant.
• 6:24
  So all you need for a mono propellant is a hydrogen peroxide and as I say, that works as a fuel and an oxidizer together.
• 6:30
  So the big gig with this car is it's a bi-propellant rocket.
• 6:33
  It needs two components to make the engine work.
• 6:36
  So one's being the fuel and the other being the oxidizer.
• 6:39
  The oxidizer is white-fuming nitric acid and if anyone knows anything about counteractivity,
• 6:44
  stuff.
• 6:45
  The fuel is for ferrule alcohol.
• 6:48
  So that's a nice green type fuel.
• 6:52
  It's produced with cane and stuff like that, sugar cane.
• 6:56
  So it's a nice green fuel.
• 6:57
  The white-fueling nitric acid is an oxidiser.
• 7:01
  But you need these two mixes to come into the engine and as soon
• 7:13
  seconds, you've got full power.
• 7:14
  So anyway, so that's, so I'm just trying to explain how, what the system is there.
• 7:20
  But the big thing with a bi-propellant rocket is that it doesn't like being fired up horizontally.
• 7:26
  So if you wanted to go to the moon, obviously you'd have the engine at the bottom, you have all the, all the, all the propellants above you, pressurized, as soon as you light the wick, all the, the gravity's pushing all the propellants in the engine and the engine's getting a, getting a, getting a steady feed.
• 7:43
  propellants into that engine is a very, very tricky thing to do.
• 7:46
  So what we've had to do is develop our own, what we call a CPM combined propellant module.
• 7:52
  So if you imagine seven big syringes, and this has been an absolute nightmare, we've been on this for two years now, but there's four tubes that are 12 inches in diameter.
• 8:01
  Oh, I have better go a bit of metric here, six metres long, six metres long, there's four of those that hold their oxidiser and there's four 10-inch ones, six metres long.
• 8:13
  a big gas bank in the back of the car.
• 8:15
  So when I hit the throttle, the gas pressure goes from 4,000 psi from the nitrogen tank, the GN2 tanks, goes from 4,000 psi down to 500 psi to the plunt of the CPM and blasts it, pushes these pistons through to push all the proponents in the engine.
• 8:34
  Never been done before.
• 8:36
  Yeah, it's a world first.
• 8:37
  And one of the things we've said to people is that that technology could be used in commercial aircraft later.
• 9:04
  Aerojacks who are a company here in Perth making the MX Racing they're called.
• 9:09
  They're doing the Red Bull aeroplanes at the moment.
• 9:12
  Magnificent company.
• 9:13
  They're doing those.
• 9:14
  They've made the nose up for us.
• 9:15
  Beautiful composite job.
• 9:17
  We go then to two wheels.
• 9:18
  Two front wheels side by side.
• 9:21
  They're from memory 900 in height and 6 inches wide.
• 9:26
  150 mil wide each wheel.
• 9:29
  They're put together on a common axle and
• 9:33
  the car has got to have four wheels to qualify as a car.
• 9:36
  So what we've done, we've put the two wheels together on a common axle and it's a very, very intricate steering mechanism we've designed.
• 9:44
  Along the lines of Blue Flame, the Blue Flame car, which is the last car to set the land speed record for the Americans.
• 9:50
  A very good friend of ours, Richard Keller, he helped us put some of the design stuff on that, but it's actually a frame that actually
• 9:58
  wheel, it's got a right suspension mode in the front of it with a load cell.
• 10:04
  We go back behind that, we've got a power rack in there that we've made up, we've made our own power rack up there that steers the wheels and then the CVM's here.
• 10:12
  So then we've got six metres of seat, it's a pretty awesome bit of gear.
• 10:16
  Then we get the driver's compartment, right sitting in the driver's compartment and if you looked at an F1 car or even the V8 supercar or something like that, those guys that look in the car and say, shit, it'd be like sitting in the wheelbarrow.
• 10:27
  It probably is, it's a bit
• 10:36
  The reason why it's heavy is that it has a lot of power.
• 10:44
  So it's a very, very powerful car.
• 10:47
  And the thing about it is why it's got to be heavy is the wheels.
• 10:50
  So it's got four solid wheels, two at the front, two at the back.
• 10:54
  Solid wheels, they're 140 kilo each, and they've got to turn at 10,000 RPM and experience 50,000 G at the periphery of the wheel.
• 11:03
  So no tyres.
• 11:04
  But the thing we've got to achieve is we can't have the car exceed 3G.
• 11:08
  If the car exceeds 3G,
• 11:10
  we leave the wheels behind.
• 11:12
  And that's one of the problems we suffer on the salt.
• 11:14
  If we can't get traction, you're fighting four gyros.
• 11:17
  So the past car, the Aussie 2K8 is sideways twice at 600 miles an hour.
• 11:21
  For that reason, we can run on the softer surface and run on the player type surface, the mudlake type surface, to get a ramp effect in front of the wheels to give us a bit more traction, if you like, on those wheels.
• 11:32
  So the car's heavy.
• 11:32
  So as I say, any experienced race car, look at Daniel Ocato, look inside that car,
• 11:38
  which he's hopefully going to have a look at pretty soon.
• 11:41
  But, you know, guys like that look at their evidence of them's carbon fibres and that.
• 11:46
  I say, jeez, it's heavy, which it is.
• 11:49
  It's got to be.
• 11:50
  It's got to waste six and a half tonnes static to make those wheels work.
• 11:54
  Am I right in saying 22 seconds to reach 1,000 mile an hour?
• 12:00
  Yeah, that's the design performance of the car, yes.
• 12:06
  Crazy.
• 12:07
  What other bespoke aspects are we talking here?
• 12:09
  Because, Roscoe, it's a really unique challenge.
• 12:13
  The pressures that componentry is under, some of the componentry is under, okay, some of it may have been tested in the aeronautical sphere or other things, but really the word I used before is pioneering.
• 12:26
  You're pioneering with some of this stuff, aren't you?
• 12:28
  Yeah, there's a great, there's probably the only thing on there that was made for us, was heart made for us, was the ablative,
• 12:36
  NASA by a company in America and we were lucky enough at the right place at the right time to get our hands on a couple of these nozzles.
• 12:43
  But what we've had to do is make our own what we call the injector, injector and interface and then to go into that engine.
• 12:49
  But everything on that car we've had to make.
• 12:52
  So apart from things like that, you know, we've got very good welders and stuff like that here and in Perth have made the roll cage under FII specs and seatbelts and stuff like that, safety gear.
• 13:03
  Yeah, you can buy it, but everything else on the car has got to be made.
• 13:05
  And going back to the wheels again, the wheels were sponsored by a company called Calm Aluminium in Sydney.
• 13:12
  And the boss of Calm Aluminium rang me up quite a few years ago and he said, listen, he said, my counterpart in the UK reckons that the Brits are going to have the first thousand mile-hour wheels built.
• 13:22
  He said, if you can build your wheels, get your wheels built before them, he said, I'll supply all the 7070 Aerospace Aluminum to make them.
• 13:31
  And we'd already had them, all the FEA had been done on them, all the design stuff we'd done on them, but we just couldn't afford to even ring anyone to try and get them.
• 13:39
  And I said, mate, that is a deal.
• 13:41
  So, yeah, Laurie Sutton sent across all the material for us.
• 13:45
  We got them in the machine shop, got them made and...
• 13:49
  and beat the plombs of building them.
• 13:50
  And yeah, so that was a great shot in the arm for us.
• 13:53
  The wheels are huge.
• 13:54
  What kind of rate of consumption are we talking about here as far as fuel or propellant is concerned?
• 14:01
  There's over two tonne of propellant.
• 14:04
  So it's a combination, as I say, of the oxidiser and fuel.
• 14:06
  It's over 2.2 tonnes.
• 14:14
  22 seconds, yeah.
• 14:15
  Just amazing.
• 14:16
  Roscoe, you touched on it a little bit before.
• 14:18
  It's probably worth sharing that under the rules, you've got to do two passes, is that correct?
• 14:23
  And there's a relatively short turnaround time between them as well, is that correct?
• 14:28
  Yeah.
• 14:29
  So you've got to pass in each direction and there's an hour turnaround time.
• 14:34
  With a car like this, one of the big things, we're back and forth with the FIA at the moment.
• 14:39
  And obviously FIA, to me, everything for those guys,
• 14:51
  But until we set the record, of course, I'll be everyone's, mate, then.
• 14:57
  But we're talking to the FIO in America and we're saying, well, listen, we've got to – this dates back to Malcolm Campbell running back many, many years ago, the old turnaround time.
• 15:06
  He said, back in the old days, you'd probably stick a bit of gas in the tank, kick the tyres, and have a smoke, and go for it.
• 15:12
  Go.
• 15:13
  Then do your next run.
• 15:14
  So with a rocket car, there's just so much stuff to do now.
• 15:16
  There's so much stuff to do.
• 15:27
  So, as opposed to the old days, we need a longer turnaround time.
• 15:30
  And they say, well, why would you justify, why would your team justify doing that?
• 15:37
  I said, well, basically because we're the only guys out there doing it.
• 15:40
  And it's an issue of safety.
• 15:43
  I said, we're working with a rocket.
• 15:49
  a thousand degrees, bloody German way.
• 15:51
  This guy's gonna work around packing chutes.
• 15:53
  It's a dangerous situation.
• 15:55
  And for safety, I said, instead of everyone rushing, we need an extra hour to turn around.
• 16:00
  Yeah.
• 16:01
  And anyway, so I said, no, I can't do that.
• 16:04
  And I said, well, they said, the Royal Book's been there for a thousand years.
• 16:07
  And I said, for a thousand years?
• 16:08
  I said, the drag racing Royal Book's been around for 2,000, god damn it.
• 16:12
  drag strip's always been 1,320 feet forever.
• 16:15
  And I said, Connie Collida got it changed, which is good for the issues of safety.
• 16:19
  Your son was killed.
• 16:20
  So he went to the FIO and said, the only way we can slow these drag cars down is to run a shorter track, run a thousand foot track.
• 16:28
  So that's what they do now.
• 16:29
  They run a thousand foot track.
• 16:30
  And I said, why?
• 16:31
  It's all in the interest of safety.
• 16:32
  So we go out and we're running under a slightly different deal to anyone else.
• 16:40
  four failures, if you like, but bottom line is, it's a different car, it's a different era.
• 16:46
  And, you know, that's safety.
• 16:49
  Yeah, and as a consequence, you know, you quite rightly need to question perhaps a more modern way of tackling that.
• 17:07
  Salt flats were formed during the last ice age, when a huge lake dried up, leaving behind mineral deposits.
• 17:14
  Every summer, the flat salt crust hardens again after the winter rains, leaving a perfect speedway.
• 17:21
  I want to get to conditions and venue.
• 17:24
  So you touched before on the style of surface that you might need.
• 17:29
  Are we talking Dubai, South Africa?
• 17:32
  Where would you take the car to run it?
• 17:34
  And the conditions, Roscoe,
• 17:37
  Just describe them.
• 17:38
  They need to be perfect, don't they?
• 17:39
  Yeah.
• 17:41
  Okay.
• 17:41
  We'll answer the first bit, Greg.
• 17:42
  Obviously, we're looking at Dubai.
• 17:45
  We've got people working.
• 17:46
  We've got a lovely PR lady working in the UAE for us.
• 17:49
  I'm hoping to entice someone over there.
• 17:52
  But initial negotiations over there say that they build us a track.
• 17:57
  There's no way we can actually run it.
• 17:59
  They build us a track, which I believe they can do easy.
• 18:03
  lovely gal at New York State working on the whole of New York.
• 18:14
  where we're going to run is where the sponsor is.
• 18:17
  So all I'm excited at this stage is, but I looked at Edwards Air Force Base in California, and sadly with the shuttle lands, if you know where the shuttle landed in California, Edwards, we've been invited to go on that.
• 18:29
  We've got some very good friends over there, and there's a good chance we can get on there.
• 18:32
  But the sad thing with Edwards Air Force Base, because the shuttle no longer lands there, it's deteriorated very, very badly.
• 18:38
  So another place up further north in Oregon is Elbowood Dry Lake.
• 18:47
  driver, got killed probably only months, two years ago now.
• 18:51
  Jessie was a great ambassador for the sport and a lovely gal.
• 18:56
  That's where she ran, but that was quite short also, Elbowy Dry Lake.
• 19:00
  So we've got two venues in Australia.
• 19:02
  One's a place called the Bilbo Mariah Claypan, which is north of Birdsville.
• 19:08
  Queensland and it's only very, very long.
• 19:11
  We've actually been over there with a company called Land Servo, surveyed it a couple of years back and found 31 kilometres.
• 19:17
  We could put a 31 kilometre course down there, which is really, really good, but it needs a lot of work.
• 19:25
  find that venue to run, there's no infrastructure around there.
• 19:28
  And Birdsville is 80 kilometres away, which is just too far away.
• 19:31
  So to set your own village up, obviously you need support from the army or airports or whatever, even contemplate doing it.
• 19:38
  So, yeah, because it's so remote, for us to even get across to Birdsville, for example, from here in Perth, we've got to drive three-quarter way across the country into New South Wales and then come up and then come back again to get there.
• 19:49
  And, I mean, it's a hell of a road trip to even try and do that.
• 19:53
  We can land a C-17 or a Herc at Birdsville.
• 19:55
  That's rated for a big plane, but you'll never put the car on that.
• 19:59
  But up here in the Kimberley, we're working on a place up in the Kimberley at the moment and out of Kamanara.
• 20:05
  So it's right on the Northern Territory WA border.
• 20:09
  And yeah, that's the early days for that.
• 20:11
  But as I say, it's really not on top of our priority list, Rusty, because it's a, yeah, there's so many things we're still gonna do to achieve for this car.
• 20:22
  And so wherever we run, it's gonna be where we pick a sponsor up.
• 20:27
  And in saying that people probably say, well shit, this guy needs a sponsor to do what we do.
• 20:31
  And we say, to make this thing happen, for us to go a thousand mile an hour, we're gonna need $3 million, $3 million Aussie dollars to do it.
• 20:37
  When I look at those F1 guys, I'd spend that in the weekend, they crash a couple of cars, it's bizarre.
• 20:42
  But anyway, it's something that's,
• 20:53
  They say the budget for this year is X amount of dollars, but everyone chips in to support the company that's backing them type thing, and that doesn't actually mean it's that amount of money.
• 21:01
  So it's the same with us.
• 21:03
  But if someone says, we want you to run that car tomorrow, we'd say, well, we need $3 million to make it happen.
• 21:08
  Has COVID made all that hard, Roscoe?
• 21:11
  Mate, we are blessed over here.
• 21:13
  We are blessed here in WA, I've got to tell you.
• 21:15
  Our Premier here, I love our 80 million.
• 21:20
  But he just, as I say, bit the bullet.
• 21:23
  We're over here, mate.
• 21:24
  As I say, I've had the greatest, I've been working my tail off of this car seven days a week ever since it started.
• 21:33
  So I like to shed the oil.
• 21:34
  A couple of guys come around and we work, they do different jobs, but everyone I'm working with, every company I'm working with, I can ring them up and say, listen, I need touch and that fittings, I need to see this.
• 21:45
  you bring it around, come around and see us.
• 21:48
  All the doors are open and, you know, you're not flouting it.
• 21:51
  I don't mean I'm not going to the pub or going anywhere, going to local dances or anything, but, yeah, I'm picking stuff up and making really good progress.
• 21:59
  It's been so good for me.
• 22:00
  It's been a really good time to get on with a car.
• 22:02
  Whereas I look at our opposition in the UK and it just must be absolute bedlam over there.
• 22:07
  No, I haven't, yeah, I haven't seen a word from those guys in months, so they're doing pretty tough over there.
• 22:14
  The target, as we said, is 1,000 miles an hour, 1,600 k's an hour.
• 22:18
  Will you be happy, Roscoe, just breaking the record, or do you want to smash it out of the park so that it stands for many years to come?
• 22:25
  Well, the answer to that, the design speed of the car is 1,000 mile an hour.
• 22:29
  If we can go 800, we'll set a world record.
• 22:32
  So the world record at the moment is 763 mile an hour.
• 22:37
  we've got a world record.
• 22:38
  So we'd love to go 800 mile an hour initially.
• 22:40
  And it's the sort of thing I've said to everyone, it's not like you're sitting your bummer in the car and saying shit, right, we're going for 1,000 mile an hour for the first time, right, we can do it.
• 22:48
  You'd never get there.
• 22:49
  The only two gauges I'm looking at, everything's computerising the car, the yaw,
• 23:05
  and a speed.
• 23:06
  So I've got the best GPS system you can get.
• 23:08
  It's very, very accurate, not all too great GPS that I can look at.
• 23:12
  So the first time we run this car, so I sit my bum in the car and say, right, on the gas, and within seven seconds, this car should be running close to 800, 850 kilometers an hour.
• 23:23
  So shut the engine off, shut it off, and then we get out and just check everything on it.
• 23:26
  We sneak up on it.
• 23:27
  But bottom line is, this is all taking time, development time in it, and the worst thing
• 23:38
  I look at guys in V8s or go karts or whatever and think, well, I'll take it to the racetrack today and do a couple of laps and you really get a feel for what you're doing.
• 23:45
  This car, we don't even know if it's got a steer yet.
• 23:48
  I can't even prove it's got a steer yet.
• 23:49
  It's a system we've developed and we might get out there and say, should have done the
• 23:59
  having time to get in it.
• 24:01
  But what we do, as I say, we've got to run it for six or seven seconds, get our speed out, check everything out, and that's fine.
• 24:05
  We say, Laura, now we've got nine seconds.
• 24:07
  Now we've got ten.
• 24:08
  And then once we're getting up around 15-second burn time, 15, 16-second burn time, which will be well surpassing the 800 mile an hour.
• 24:24
  I'm just hoping I live long enough to see it.
• 24:26
  Yeah, so do I, mate.
• 24:27
  As I say, you've got boundless energy.
• 24:30
  And I love the fact that you are so fiercely determined to pursue this deal.
• 24:36
  That's just tremendous.
• 24:38
  The project requires...
• 24:39
  requires a lot of people that you've talked about before.
• 24:42
  And you've got some incredibly bright minds on that team there.
• 24:45
  People that have got perhaps RAAF experience and others that have, I think even some that have worked in Mercedes in their Formula 1 program.
• 24:53
  There's some very good people on board, aren't there?
• 24:55
  Yeah, there certainly is.
• 24:57
  And even for people like that, you have to say, and Paul Martin, one of our main guys in the UK, Paul's an Aussie guy who works on the Secret,
• 25:06
  done a lot of the design stuff on the aerodynamic stuff and that on the car.
• 25:11
  And as I say, if you have to pay these guys, you know, like an F1B, you'd be paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for the work.
• 25:18
  And these guys, you know, guys like Paul and heaps of others do stuff for us for nothing.
• 25:23
  And in saying that, there's an all-volunteer team.
• 25:25
  I've got a crew of 22 people, all specialists in different areas, and most of them I don't need to see all the time.
• 25:32
  The construction type stuff we're doing now, there's three of us mainly do it.
• 25:35
  I oversee everything that gets on there, every hole that gets drilled, whatever, I make sure I'm happy with it.
• 25:40
  Yeah, I've got the perfect team that, if I need something done, they're wiring or something, I'll do it, I can just make a call, and say, this is where they're just done, and guys come out and do it.
• 25:48
  And as I say, on standby too, we've got some brilliant machine shops, got some bloody welders, we've got people who do all sorts of stuff for us, and you can hear the voice that you ring up, say, oh, Roscoe here, and say, oh yeah, how you going?
• 26:03
  But they're excited they helped us out.
• 26:05
  They've been brilliant, everyone I've got.
• 26:06
  In a perfect world, let's hypothetically say you had the sponsorship on board, the world was right in terms of COVID and things.
• 26:15
  When would you be in a position to have a crack at this?
• 26:19
  I suppose if we saw some money today, we'd say, well, we'd set a target in six months, in six months time.
• 26:24
  And as I said earlier, depending where that sponsor came from, if it was Australia, we'd say, well, we've got three venues to pick, which one are we gonna add, gonna use?
• 26:30
  There's a UAE.
• 26:31
  We'd be straight over there with a marketing company, Gem over there.
• 26:34
  We'd be saying, right, we're in the war boat.
• 26:37
  Who's, yeah, where are we going to run?
• 26:39
  Who's going to set the track up?
• 26:40
  And what I've seen those guys do, you would have seen yourself, Rusty, yourself.
• 26:44
  The UAE, they want to do something.
• 26:45
  They do it overnight.
• 26:46
  Yes.
• 26:46
  I looked at the 2020 Expo they had.
• 26:49
  I went out there.
• 26:50
  It was out in the middle of the bloody desert.
• 26:53
  I had a look at that two years ago, whatever.
• 26:56
  Drove out there with this girl.
• 26:57
  She took us out there, showed us that.
• 27:07
  Kids going out, working their butts off.
• 27:09
  Six months later, all in multi-storey buildings.
• 27:11
  And what they do there, the money they've got there is just insane.
• 27:15
  We hope that it all comes to fruition, Roscoe.
• 27:19
  It's a great story, capped off by Order of Australia medal, which I think is just tremendous for what you've done over more than...
• 27:27
  50 years chasing this dream, chasing adrenaline.
• 27:31
  Listeners can follow it at AussieInvader.com.
• 27:33
  And for corporations thinking about sponsorship, the media attention around this, when Roscoe actually pulls this off, will be enormous.
• 27:41
  Get around it.
• 27:42
  It's going to be a huge thing if you can do it, mate.
• 27:44
  Well, we'd like to say when we can do it, Rusty.
• 27:46
  And, yeah, I love people who just look at our website if they had the opportunity, AussieInvader.com.
• 27:51
  And talking about the Order of Australia medal too, mate, you've probably had enough of me, I imagine.
• 27:56
  But yeah, I love saying, I do a few talks around the place, but I tell people I'm the only guy in the country who's got a gold medal.
• 28:06
  And that, Roscoe, is a perfect way to end it on.
• 28:08
  We wish you all the very best with this mission, and we love the fact that it might be, in the not-too-distant future, an Aussie that's the fastest driver, the fastest person out riding the world.
• 28:20
  Go get them.
• 28:20
  Thank you very much for your time, mate.
• 28:22
  I'm a pleasure talking with you guys and your listeners.
• 28:29
  Rusty's Garage is written and presented by me, Greg Rust.
• 28:34
  Series producer and editor is Alex Mitchell.
• 28:37
  Audio production by Darcy Thompson.
• 28:39
  I'm Greg Rust.
• 28:41
  Enjoy the drive, but drive safely.