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Lack of clutch hitting and poor defense has Bucs off to a rough start · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucko Territory, presented are
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  Speaker 2: a part of the Foul Territory Network.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Noah Hiles.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me as always are my co hosts, Josh Harrison
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  Speaker 2: and Mark aka platinum Key.
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  Speaker 1: The Pirates are off to a rough start of their
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season.
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  Speaker 2: We're recording this Sunday morning before they conclude their three
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  Speaker 2: game series against New York Mets, but they've already lost
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  Speaker 2: the first two, including a tough extra innings loss on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about some of the storylines that
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  Speaker 2: go along with the season, and we're gonna get into
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  Speaker 2: it right now. We start off the show with our
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  Speaker 2: weekly segment on Mondays, Key of the Week, presented to
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  Speaker 2: you by platinum Key himself.
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  Speaker 1: Mark. What's the key of the week this week?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, my Key of the Week this week is
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  Speaker 3: going to be clutch hitting. As we've seen, we're sitting
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  Speaker 3: through two games right now, the pairerates have three hits
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  Speaker 3: with runners on base or runners in scoring position. I
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  Speaker 3: should say that's not good, especially when they left seventeen
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  Speaker 3: on base yesterday. Are in Saturday's game when it went
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  Speaker 3: to extra inning. So you leave seventeen runners on base
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  Speaker 3: and you can only score two runs, and you just
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  Speaker 3: got to figure out a way in those situations to
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  Speaker 3: get a hit. And I don't know if that's Don
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  Speaker 3: Kelly adjusting the lineup. I don't know if that's guys
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  Speaker 3: just locking in. We saw like Brian Reynolds strike out
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  Speaker 3: in the top of the ninth with the runner on
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  Speaker 3: first and third after Jake Ingham hit a double, and
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  Speaker 3: we saw Jared Triolo, you know, line out. That was
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  Speaker 3: a great hit where he lines out and ends the rally. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I forget what inning that was, but you just gotta
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  Speaker 3: get those to fall. And so that's my key of
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  Speaker 3: the week is stepping up when there's runners on the
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  Speaker 3: bases and and bringing it home because with the way
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  Speaker 3: that this defense has been playing, you have to bring
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  Speaker 3: home those runs and get that run support because that's
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  Speaker 3: where your advantages on this team right now is at
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  Speaker 3: the plate. That's how it's designed, and so scoring runs
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  Speaker 3: at the plate and giving up runs on the defensive side,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be a long season. So that's my
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  Speaker 3: key of the week is just clutch hitting.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this real quick.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if there could be a more PTSD
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  Speaker 2: inducing start to the season, yeah, than what happened in
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  Speaker 2: these first two games, where you've had Onneo Cruz making
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  Speaker 2: defensive mistakes on opening day that kind of cost them
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  Speaker 2: the game. And then to follow that up with a
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  Speaker 2: scoreless Mitch Keller outing and you give him no run
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  Speaker 2: support and you leave seventeen men on base, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: you take the lead not once but twice an extra innings,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't hang on to it.
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  Speaker 1: These are the things that I get.
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  Speaker 2: It's two games into the year. It's not that big
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  Speaker 2: of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Like
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  Speaker 2: you you obviously you don't want to lose any game,
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  Speaker 2: but like it's just early season lows.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't define anything.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just not a good feeling when you know,
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  Speaker 2: you had all these good vibes coming out of camp
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  Speaker 2: and people were excited, and this is the first taste
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  Speaker 2: they yet it's not good.
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  Speaker 4: It's baseball. I don't think the kid a week is
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  Speaker 4: bad mark because you're talking clutch hitting. It's something that
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  Speaker 4: every team talks about during spring training. That's what you
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  Speaker 4: talk about, is situational hitting. It's I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: say it's easy to do when nobody's on base, because
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  Speaker 4: hitting is not easy to do. But in those moments
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  Speaker 4: where you got guys on base, guys second base, no out,
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  Speaker 4: guys second and third, you gotta get situational hitting at
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  Speaker 4: that point the bad it has to be, and at
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  Speaker 4: bad that is for the team, not that you're bat
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  Speaker 4: isn't always for the team. But you know, those are
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  Speaker 4: moments where, yes, it's only two games, but we sit
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  Speaker 4: here and say it's not that big of a deal.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm a firm believer that every game, you know, counts,
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  Speaker 4: and yes, while there's one hundred and sixty two, not
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  Speaker 4: everyone's going to go your way. If you continue to say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's just one game, you'll be okay with that because
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  Speaker 4: how many times do teams miss the playoffs by just
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  Speaker 4: one game? And you know, it's easy to highlight old
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  Speaker 4: Game one fifty in September where we didn't get the
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  Speaker 4: situational hitting where I mean, sometimes that game one or
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  Speaker 4: game two of the season, you know, might be the
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  Speaker 4: deciding factor and not making the playoffs or whatever. But
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, you know, you got to come
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  Speaker 4: back to the field the next day, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: you know wash all that away and come back ready
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  Speaker 4: to you know, try to you know, win a ball
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  Speaker 4: game the next day, because what happened in the past
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  Speaker 4: isn't you know, have effect to today. So I think
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  Speaker 4: situational hitting leave us seventeen men on base in one
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  Speaker 4: game is that's pretty alarming. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: if you're gonna do it, get it all out the
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  Speaker 4: way now. And you know, as these first two games win,
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  Speaker 4: who's to say that these this next week or two
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  Speaker 4: can be a complete opposite. But that's the biggest thing
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  Speaker 4: when you go from spring training to up North, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of different factors, different weather, different ballparks, different visualization,
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  Speaker 4: different anxiety, and you know, emotions because there are thirty
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  Speaker 4: thousand in the stands as opposed to three thousand, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so that amped up moment can have guys a little
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  Speaker 4: amped up or just miss a pitch. So situation will
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  Speaker 4: getting slow it down, get the job done.
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  Speaker 3: And I will give a shout out to Nick and Zales.
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  Speaker 3: He is two for four with three RBIs and the
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  Speaker 3: double with runners in scoring position right now, so he's
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  Speaker 3: doing his part. But those are two of the three
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  Speaker 3: hits that the Pirates have. The only other one is
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  Speaker 3: that Brian Reynolds like swinging bunt down the third baseline.
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  Speaker 3: They count it counts yeah, but when those are yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're only three hits with runners in scoring position. Gotta
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  Speaker 3: step that up.
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  Speaker 2: On the note of gotta step up, let's pervert back
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  Speaker 2: to open. Josh, you weren't able to join us for
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  Speaker 2: that show. We still haven't got your thoughts on O'Neal
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  Speaker 2: Cruz's defensive efforts in the field on Thursday. For all
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  Speaker 2: hims on deck, I feel like that's a good place to.
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  Speaker 4: Start, that's for sure. And as we sit here, one
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  Speaker 4: of the things I wanted to highlight was you're in
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  Speaker 4: a different ballpark, different surroundings. And then I'm not trying
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  Speaker 4: to pick on a guy when he's down, but at
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  Speaker 4: the same time, I have to make light of what
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  Speaker 4: I see of observations. The first sunball that he missed,
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  Speaker 4: this was one of I can't remember which infield culture
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  Speaker 4: of mine, you know, throughout my career, but one of
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  Speaker 4: his biggest pet peeves was guys that were sunglasses on
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  Speaker 4: the hat and try to shield the sun or you
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  Speaker 4: or you know what I mean. Or if you have sunglasses,
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  Speaker 4: put them on. And if you don't have sunglasses, you
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  Speaker 4: need to wear them. And yes, that's that sucks. He
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  Speaker 4: lost the In my college coach will say, you didn't
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  Speaker 4: lose the ball in the sun. It's in the sun.
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  Speaker 4: You know where it is, do a better job of
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  Speaker 4: fighting through it, or wear sunglasses. Yes, that's unfortunate. Then
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  Speaker 4: it leads to right there, visually, maybe he's not picking
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  Speaker 4: the ball up because day games, I will tell you
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  Speaker 4: certain stadiums, you don't pick the ball up with the
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  Speaker 4: crowd back there sometimes, you know, if they weren't white.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not just that first misplay too, So who
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  Speaker 3: knows how.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I got to say, who knows that
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  Speaker 4: might have been man, I misplayed that ball and then
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  Speaker 4: the ball is lost. I'm not making an excuse for him,
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  Speaker 4: because those balls have to be caught. But at the
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  Speaker 4: same time, you know, credit to ball. You know, he
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  Speaker 4: goes get the bad one at the way early, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And not to say he has every right, because I
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  Speaker 4: don't think a good teammate's not going to throw your
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  Speaker 4: teammate under the bus, which I think he did a
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  Speaker 4: great job of, you know, because he's probably like, I
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  Speaker 4: can make some pictures better there. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I know O'Neill is like, man, I gotta
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  Speaker 4: make those plays. But when you've only played one game
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  Speaker 4: in a season, of course the bad is gonna outweigh
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  Speaker 4: the good if you haven't really done much good. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, as bad as this has started for him,
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  Speaker 4: there's still time to turn it around. But I think
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  Speaker 4: this is an eye opener, say, it's not going to
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  Speaker 4: go through the whole month of April for this to happen,
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  Speaker 4: especially saying how Mingham stepped in, you know, yesterday and
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  Speaker 4: gave some good energy. Good at Batch made a play
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  Speaker 4: that I'm sure O'Neill has made before. But at the
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  Speaker 4: same time, repetition is something that is key, and I
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  Speaker 4: think you got to make those plays and not to
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  Speaker 4: harp on well, you know what's happened, but those are
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  Speaker 4: places that's got to be made, especially when you got
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  Speaker 4: your guys on the mountain in regardless of who was
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  Speaker 4: on the mound, you need to make those players. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, we talked twenty seven outs on defense. You
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  Speaker 4: don't want to give that other team more outs. And
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  Speaker 4: when you give the other team more outs, that's what
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  Speaker 4: can happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say, like, the big takeaway from what
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  Speaker 2: you just mentioned is like the something I could care
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  Speaker 2: less about the sun thing because that's sunglasses.
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  Speaker 1: Not sunglasses. I said this on the last show.
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  Speaker 2: It's like people played baseball before sunglasses were even invented,
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  Speaker 2: and they still found a way to catch the ball
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  Speaker 2: with the sun in the in the sky.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's your job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got, like the sun shines for every baseball
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  Speaker 2: game ever played. Essentially, sometimes you're in a dome, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: there's clouds, but there's always going to be a visual distraction.
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  Speaker 2: And especially like Joshua you mentioned, I mean I've never
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  Speaker 2: played in a three deck stadium, but like that probably
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  Speaker 2: is visually impairing as well, just the colors and everything,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's still your job to catch it, and.
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  Speaker 4: We've done it before you take VP. That's where you
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  Speaker 4: get your read.
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  Speaker 1: Sun sun aside.
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  Speaker 2: The problem with O'Neill is he's not reading the ball well,
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  Speaker 2: he's just not.
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  Speaker 1: Getting a good read.
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  Speaker 2: And that's something that happened a lot last year. Like
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  Speaker 2: he's athletic enough to where even if he gets a
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  Speaker 2: bad read, he can get there right. Yeah, But when
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  Speaker 2: you're when you're taking your first step in on a
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  Speaker 2: line drive, that's just I mean, twelve year olds no
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  Speaker 2: better than that, And that just means you're not seeing
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  Speaker 2: the ball like or you have no idea from where
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  Speaker 2: the ball is going that or.
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  Speaker 4: He hasn't really honed in on the outfield. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I played both. When that ball is hit, when that
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  Speaker 4: ball is head heighted, you don't sprint in. You get
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  Speaker 4: below the ball to see it. And it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Infielders do the same thing on ground balls. Outfielders, if
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  Speaker 4: your first step is forward, you've lost range, you haven't
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  Speaker 4: really seen the ball. It costs infielders more because that's
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  Speaker 4: where errors happen. Yes, outfielders do it, but as you said, no,
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  Speaker 4: when you have outfielders that are faster athletic, it can
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  Speaker 4: be kind of overshadow because their speed or athleticism will overshadow.
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  Speaker 4: But when it continually happens at some point it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: And I don't want to put all the blame on O'Neil,
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  Speaker 4: because if you have a guy that you know does
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  Speaker 4: not get good reach, what is he working on. It's
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  Speaker 4: not on him. He can be invp and reading balls
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  Speaker 4: off the bat. Yes, that's the only way you really
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  Speaker 4: get better at getting live reach, but there are other
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  Speaker 4: ways to get better at that and drill work, and
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  Speaker 4: that's about locking in and making a guy accountable. And
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  Speaker 4: sometimes if a god is not a natural outfielder, it
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  Speaker 4: has to be gone above and beyond him for them
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  Speaker 4: to say, let's get out here early. Let's figure out
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  Speaker 4: how we can get you making better reads. Because you're
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  Speaker 4: in the center of the field. This is the easiest read,
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  Speaker 4: per se. I've played the corners. The center is the
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  Speaker 4: easiest read. But at the same time, it's not easy
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  Speaker 4: when you haven't played it. Then your first reaction is
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  Speaker 4: to go no And as you said, Noah to be
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  Speaker 4: out there for a couple more years, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: two years now. You don't want to keep harping on
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  Speaker 4: the same physical mistakes. And sometimes those physical mistakes are
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  Speaker 4: also a compound of a mental mistake, because is he
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  Speaker 4: really locked in? As you said, he misplayed the first one,
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  Speaker 4: So is he like, oh, man, I missed that ball
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  Speaker 4: and then not locked in getting the next read something
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  Speaker 4: that they won't I don't think they'll allow to happen
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  Speaker 4: for a long time. But at the same time, would
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  Speaker 4: have happened in the first game, maybe this is something
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  Speaker 4: that is a wake up call for him to say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't happen in game thirteen. It happened game one,
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  Speaker 4: and yes, game two, there was a lefty on the mound,
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  Speaker 4: a little better matchup from Mangham starting. But at the
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  Speaker 4: same time, if one would make those two players and
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  Speaker 4: it's hitting decent, was probably starting that game, you know
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  Speaker 4: but defense is something that is not just about offense.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta take care of the defensive side.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, I will say go.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead and mark Okay, one other I had a different point,
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  Speaker 3: So finish off if you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna note that. I mean O'Neill
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  Speaker 2: works hard, like not not that we were suggesting that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't, but like I see him working on these
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  Speaker 2: things all the time. He's always before every game working
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  Speaker 2: on his defense, like he's doing drills. He's out there
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  Speaker 2: with t Brock and Tony Beasley and like they're they're
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  Speaker 2: helping him. But I last year, I saw the work
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  Speaker 2: the year before that when they moved him. But it's
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  Speaker 2: one thing to be able to be confident in practice.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole other thing when, like like you said, Josh,
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  Speaker 2: when there are thirty thousand people rooting for you to
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  Speaker 2: screw up and you have that in your mind and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, well the bases are loaded. And that's
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing with o'nel Cruz, more than anything else
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  Speaker 2: that will drive you crazy, is that his mistakes almost
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  Speaker 2: always come with a runner and scoring position. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: when it's pressure, it's and I can't pretend to have
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  Speaker 2: played the game at a high level or anything. But
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  Speaker 2: when you're in those situations, you've got to be out
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  Speaker 2: there in the field saying, I hope they hit the
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  Speaker 2: ball to me. And that's just not the reality.
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  Speaker 4: Ain't no I hope there's no I hope they hit
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  Speaker 4: you were I want the ball. That's like I want
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  Speaker 4: the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I want the ball hit to me. Hit it to me,
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  Speaker 2: hit it to me. I know I'm going to make
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  Speaker 2: the right play. And when you don't have a semblance
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  Speaker 2: of that mentality, the all will almost always find you,
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  Speaker 2: and it finds him. Like you look at his mistakes
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  Speaker 2: last opening day. That's runners. It's the tying run on
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  Speaker 2: second base and he makes the bad decision there, Like
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  Speaker 2: it's almost always with a runner in scoring position his mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: When there's no one on base, he plays fine. And
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  Speaker 2: but that's kind of the epitome of this.
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  Speaker 1: Team right now.
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  Speaker 2: Mark, Like you talked about like close games and not
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  Speaker 2: executing with runners in scoring position.
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  Speaker 1: Defensively, you look at a guy like Hunter Barco.
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  Speaker 2: Coming in into a game in extra innings where they
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  Speaker 2: already have the automatic runner. How many guys on this
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  Speaker 2: team if you're a pitcher when the balls hit to them,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, that's that's a that's almost a guaranteed out.
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  Speaker 1: It's a routine playing. It's gonna be made.
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  Speaker 2: The way this team's assembled right now, half the field
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  Speaker 2: is a question if you're holding your breath every time
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  Speaker 2: the balls hit because you've got so many guys playing
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  Speaker 2: out of position and some guys just aren't competent defenders
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So it's it's interesting Mark, you had a different point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was just going to bring up
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  Speaker 3: another frustrating topic that we touched on last week that
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  Speaker 3: we saw more of on Saturday, and that was just
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  Speaker 3: so many free base runners. We saw a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: just lead off the whole bullpen. I feel like the
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  Speaker 3: first battery they faced from the seventh inning on, they
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  Speaker 3: walked where It's just you're starting off every single inning
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  Speaker 3: with a runner on first and no outs, and it
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  Speaker 3: just makes you pitch from behind. And we saw how
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, they got out of it until they did
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  Speaker 3: in the eleventh, but yeah, I just you gotta limit
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: that with this defense because it's just going to penalize you.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I was just going to bring that up
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: or we could. I also wanted to get your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on bringing Barco in in that situation where it's his
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: third MLB appearance in a way stadium with the save opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: I thought bringing him in the tenth made sense. I
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: know people question bringing him back out for the eleventh.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you're bringing him in for the tenth,
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  Speaker 3: you that's the places to bring him out, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: you want multiple innings there if the game is going
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  Speaker 3: to continue. Yeah, So I thought leaving him in there
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  Speaker 3: was fine if you're going to bring him in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: But if you have Majenski starting today on Sunday, maybe
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: you want Parker to piggyback instead.
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  Speaker 4: But the or maybe not not to cut you off
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  Speaker 4: as I said, or maybe or maybe they want to,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: you know, the arms that they could have used behind
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  Speaker 4: Barco they'll use, you know, from Majensky today. Yeah, that's
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: kind of what I was thinking. You know, I'm thinking,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: and I saw, you know, why is he going back
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: out there? And the extra ending games are you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: a little tricky, especially when you start with a guy
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: on second base and then you know you're a visiting
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: team and then if you don't get the run that
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: you go aheads like like not saying on a guy
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: that's already out there, but if it's a guy that
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: can go extra innings, you know, multiple innings, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: it's like, man, you got to think about the next
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: day too, because you know, as you've already gone through
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: inning seven, eight and nine and you've already used like
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: the back end of your bullpen, things get a little
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: harry there because like, all right, now we got guys
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: in everybody in this next coming situation is going to
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: be a situation that they're not because all of our
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: high leverage guys have already been used. So the rest
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: of these high leverage the rest of the guys are
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: going to get a high leverage opportunity. Is just you
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: know what, somebody always this guy's still in guess what.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: The guys that we really want in a situation have
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: already been used. But we also got to think about
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: tomorrow because you know it's the day three starter. Now,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: you know we want him to go five six innings,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: but you never know what's going to happen. You know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: God willing, you want him to go seven, but you
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: know it's the early part of the season with JESSKEI
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: is you know, getting back into the you know rotation,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: So you still want to make sure that you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: no pun intended, you have all hands on that.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean and you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this was a team that threw seven pitchers
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: on opening Day and a lot some of those guys,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I think Montgomery through forty pitches.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I want to say, Matt's in through thirty eight.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So when when you look at the way
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: your bullpen, and yes they had an off day after
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: opening Day, but still it's the first game of the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: season and you just literally everyone in your bullpen aside
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: from Orkidian Barco. So then you get into another extra
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: inning game and it's like, are you going to go
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: another game where you get seven people or do you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: go to Hunter Barco, who was essentially your sixth.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Starter, and you say, here's the ball.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It's years until it's done and that could be one inning,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: that could be six innings, regardless, Like, this is your game.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And I know some people were saying, oh, he's a rookie,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: he's only pitched a couple games in major leagues.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Guess what, he's a big leaguer. It's major league baseball.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's it's the mound is just as high and just
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: as far away from home play as it was in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Triple A, Double A, and Single A. The batters are better,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the crowds are bigger, but it's baseball, man, and if
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: he's good enough to make the team, he's good enough
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to pitch in this situation. I had no problem with
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: all the circumstances, and uh, you know, and play with
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the decision they made because you're you're thinking about today,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: but you're also thinking about tomorrow, like we noted, like
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: they're gonna need her kidie to cover innings on Sunday.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: They're going to need Mattson to be some sort of
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: leverage option because probably Soto and Santana aren't available. So
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that's that's the science behind it. And you know, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: want to if it was Game two of the World Series,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: yeah that is, Santana's probably coming back out for the tenth. Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: but it's March twenty eighth is when that game was played.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So they all matter. But you got to keep the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: journey in mind. And there's one hundred and sixty you
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: got to play afterwards.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: So health is the big thing, and you don't want
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: to wear guy out Game three of the season. As
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: you said, even though they had the off day, it's
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: still you know, thirty eight forty pitchers that still might
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: have a guy feeling like they're going back to back,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and you want to make sure that you got these
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: guys being able to go back to back when you
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: need them later in the season.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, any final thoughts before we wrap up?
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Joshua No, I was just gonna say, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: know they get I mean, get out of New York
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: with one. I know the first two haven't gone. But
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: one thing that we always said as players is a hey,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: if they hey, get at least one. You know what
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, Hey, if you don't want a serious you
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: gotta win at least one, because that's going to keep
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: you from going in that slide of you know, losing
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: six seventh straight. You start one, you can get to two.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: You know what they got the first two leave out
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: of New York with one. Make it a happy flight.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: That's what we say, happy flight.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I love it, and I'll just send then just a
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: shout out to Mitch Keller, just an absolute bulldog on Saturday.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Pitch really well. Seventy seven pitches through six innings, only
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: gave up three hits, no walks, and did it without
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: striking guys out. And I mean he had three strikeouts.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I was really impressed by Mitch Keller. Great
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to see him back and looking forward to today's game
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll echo the Mitch Keller thing. They needed someone
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to go yeah he did that, yeah, yeah, and they
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: got it. Ironically, the game went eleven innings, so right,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: a lot, but Mitch did his part, which is a sentence.
• 22:33
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