Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / Ross Fulton Analysis: How Will Chip Kelly Change The Ohio State Offense This Spring?
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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, March first time, your host Tom
- 0:03Moore. The Akron game is in one hundred and eighty three days, the
- 0:06game against Michigan in two hundred and seventy four days. We are also continuing
- 0:10our countdown to spring football. On today's show, we're talking to our buddy
- 0:14Ross Fulton, the exes and nose Guru at buckey Huddle dot com to find
- 0:17out you've heard what I am interested in watching this spring. Now let's hear
- 0:20what everyone's smart football friend is interested in watching this spring. Because there's a
- 0:25lot of fascinating storylines that we're gonna be talking about the offense. And of
- 0:28course when we talked to Ross, we were sponsored by Jeff Ruby Steakhouse,
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- 0:39to Jeff Ruby dot com slash Columbus today. All right, so we're gonna
- 0:43be talking about the offense today, what we're most interested in seeing, and
- 0:46there's you know, there's new personnel, there's you know, potentially maybe a
- 0:50tweak in the scheme. There's guys who are maybe shifting positions. There's all
- 0:53sorts of stuff to talk about in the offense. But ross it feels like
- 0:56we got to start. Let's start at the top of the offense with the
- 0:58new offensive coordinator, Chip kell How different do you think things might look this
- 1:03spring with Chip Kelly there running the offense with Ryan Day. That's what I'm
- 1:10interested in finding out. I would say that's at the top of the list.
- 1:12I think that is a couple of dimensions. I mean, so when
- 1:18Bill O'Brien, when Brian Day had his last press conference when Bill Obrian was
- 1:22still the offensive coordinator, he talked about it being the Ohio State offense with
- 1:26elements added in from Bill O'Brien. Now with Chip Kelly, there's as we've
- 1:30discussed, there's a lot more overlap between what Ryan Day does and what Chip
- 1:34Kelly does. But I think to the extent, what I'll be looking for
- 1:38right away is how much different is the run game and that that's a couple
- 1:44different dimensions. That's both in terms of the play usage and like you know,
- 1:49we've talked about, Chip Kelly is using a more diverse run game.
- 1:53You know, plays like pin and poll for instance, which were an element
- 1:57of what Ohio State has done in the past, but a much more constant
- 2:04part of Chip Kelly's offense and has been for a long time. You know,
- 2:07his his sweep play where he pulls two linemen and blocks down. So
- 2:10there's things like that, you know, but then also like formationally, I
- 2:16think we'll be interesting as well. You know, one thing chip Kelly did
- 2:21in response to some of the issues he had in the NFL in terms of
- 2:23being predictable by tendencies was that he at UCLA started using a lot more same
- 2:31side run. So just by that, I mean that running the ball to
- 2:37the side the half back lines up on a shotgun because obviously, I think
- 2:39we've talked about before. If you're you know, you can become predictable,
- 2:44especially an eleven personnel, by where the tight end and running back are because
- 2:46you can only run certain things. But chip Kelly did a good job at
- 2:49UCLA at least of you know, like, for instance, that same side
- 2:53sweep play, like he would run it to the side the running back was
- 2:55on, and so you change up the steps for the running back, but
- 2:59it's still the same for the offensive line, and that you know, helps
- 3:01break tendencies or you know, he'd run power to the side of the running
- 3:05back, and so that would be an area as well that I'm looking at.
- 3:10I would also you know, then we'll see some of how much are
- 3:15they going to incorporate the Q read into the mix, particularly Q read run
- 3:22play, so right reading a defender and the quarterback has the option to give
- 3:27or keep. I wouldn't expect, at least like to see a lot of
- 3:31quarterbacks keeping you know, whether it's in the spring game or open practice sessions,
- 3:36but like you'll still be able to tell somewhat whether it's a live read.
- 3:40You know. Another thing Chip Kelly has done is like he's he's good
- 3:45at changing up who is read to keep the defense off balanced. So like
- 3:49he'll you know, it won't just be the defensive end every time on his
- 3:53own read. Like they'll run an outside zone where they read the defensive tackle.
- 3:57Again that both changes up the bocking scheme. Let you get outside,
- 4:00you know, because you're not as worried about a bigger defensive tackle running with
- 4:03the running back, but also just keeps defenders off balance because all of a
- 4:08sudden they're not blocked, So how much are they doing that, you know,
- 4:13changing up who's being read? And then I guess that the fourth thing
- 4:16I'd add to that is personnel too. So another thing we saw from Chip
- 4:21Kelly at UCLA was a lot more use of heavy personnel than he had used
- 4:25in the past. That gave the four both of using two tight ends but
- 4:30also like bringing wide receivers in tight and using them for instance, like if
- 4:33you're running countertrait using one of the wide receivers as the poll and leading.
- 4:40And I do think that creates an interesting dynamic for a state because I like
- 4:45last year, I would say that tight end is probably the weakest position group
- 4:48on the offense, whereas wide receivers the strongest. So it's like, how
- 4:51much do they really want to use twelve personnel when they do? Can the
- 4:55tight ends block better than they did last year? And you know, I
- 4:59think I think that conversely, a Mecca BUCA has the size and to sort
- 5:03of fill that role of playing tight and being a you know, blocker accounted
- 5:10for in the tackle box. They oh, I say, actually did do
- 5:13a little bit of that last year with him on split blocks. That like,
- 5:15so looking for whether that role increases. So those are sort of the
- 5:20things that jump to the top of my mind on the offense, and then
- 5:25as far as the run game, one thing that's really interesting to me is,
- 5:29you know, we're talking about the changing you know, what they might
- 5:30do differently on the run game, and there's some stuff that you know,
- 5:32hey, running the same side run, so you talk about like, sure
- 5:35you can, you can do that, and that's that's fine. There are
- 5:39other schematic changes in terms of maybe different times, types of running, or
- 5:42you can be running more inside versus outside that are contingent potentially in a bunch
- 5:46of different stuff, all of which is potentially a little bit different this year.
- 5:48So you've got some new faces on the offensive line. There's at least
- 5:53one spot open on the offensive line, and we'll see if you know,
- 5:56maybe someone steals if Sethn Glocklin comes in, steals that starting center jobway from
- 6:00Carson Hinsman, and you got the right right guard spot open, you got
- 6:03a new quarterback, and it's going to be they have five quarterbacks on the
- 6:06roster this year. It's going to be number one, a new starting quarterback,
- 6:09and number two a running quarterback, which they very much did not have
- 6:12last year. And then number three, you've also got new running back,
- 6:15You've got Quinn Shawn Judkins on the roster this year. When they're figuring out
- 6:19this spring, hey, here's some stuff that we think we're going to do
- 6:24more of or less of. How much? I mean, I'm sure all
- 6:28of those things factor into some degree or another, But is there one of
- 6:30those that really you know, hey, we have concerns about the middle of
- 6:34the offensive line, or you know, hey, the quarterback run really opens
- 6:38up this Like, which of those factors is maybe the deciding factor in you
- 6:43know, what they end up doing or not doing. Is there is there
- 6:46one that's more impactful than others. I think the quarterback run element is where
- 6:50you start, because that impacts how you constrain defenses and what your responses are
- 6:57to defenses, you know, versus is using our pos versus using other heavier
- 7:01personnel. I mean, there's different ways to go about this that we've discussed
- 7:04over time, but I think it's how much of a commitment are they going
- 7:09to have to a live quarterback regame it as well as like you know,
- 7:13quarterback designed run plays. We saw some of that. Both of those with
- 7:17Devin Brown last year, and so, you know, I think the Day's
- 7:20offense, I mean, I still believe that, like for the issue is
- 7:25when you're spread out in the shotgun and you don't have the quarterback read element,
- 7:31it makes you somewhat predictable by formation in alignment, and it makes you
- 7:39somewhat predictable in terms of not being able to count for numbers. It's so
- 7:45I think a lot of what Day's offense is designed was the concepts are based
- 7:49upon having a quarterback that can at least serve as a read threat, and
- 7:55so that should make everyone look better because you know, there were times when
- 8:01the blocking the offensive line was blamed. You know, the offensive line got
- 8:05blamed for the tight end blocking, which is like a whole other issue that
- 8:07we've talked about that drives me crazy. But also like you know, when
- 8:13there's unaccounted for defenders, you can only do so much. And so I
- 8:16do think that like how much they're going to go back to what I would
- 8:20even consider like what they were like with justin fields, you know, twenty
- 8:24nineteen, twenty twenty, in terms of just making that an element that defenses
- 8:28have to account for. That that's where I would start, and then I
- 8:31think, you know to your question. The second issue again where I'm looking
- 8:35forward when I talked about run game diversity, is you know, how dependent
- 8:39are they still with stretch being their base run play versus a more amalgamation of
- 8:46inside zone, outside zone power, counter pin and pull which is sort of
- 8:50like a buck sweep and you know, duo my back again, like when
- 8:56we talked about like the overlap of Chip Kelly and Ryan Day, like all
- 8:58those things just named off are plays that I that I can show you examples
- 9:03of where Ohio States has run them over the last couple of years. Again,
- 9:05it's just emphasis, right, It's like what percentage you know some of
- 9:09those plays like windback for instance, So like you know what running back steps
- 9:13one way and comes back the other way. It's like an inside down of
- 9:16play but effectively functions like down a block, like you'd see it once or
- 9:20twice in a certain game and then you wouldn't see it again, you know.
- 9:24And like chip Kelly was much more consistent and using a variety of concepts
- 9:28at EACLA. So again that's like I think you'll you you know, spring
- 9:33is for installing your base offense and so like that it is someone telling what
- 9:37they rely on because that's like the what they consider the base offense. And
- 9:41it feels like every time we've talked about Chip Kelly and his potential impact at
- 9:45Ohio State, we've kind of focused on the run game. Are there things
- 9:50that you might see in the past game this spring that would make you say,
- 9:54okay, that's maybe like the chip Kelly influence in the passing game.
- 9:58And you know, is that based on chip Kelly's influence or is that based
- 10:01on hey, you got a different type of quarterback potentially now, Yeah,
- 10:05I mean so someone hard to disentangle those. And it's also hard to disentangle
- 10:09that Chip Kelly and Ryan Day's passing games, like if you just pulled their
- 10:13playbooks out, are virtually identical. There might be some different emphasis, Like
- 10:18you know, there's certain plays that chip Kelly loves to run, like why
- 10:22cross, like deep crossing her oute, spacing snag. But again, these
- 10:26are like all concepts we talked about with Ohio State Ryan Day all the time.
- 10:30Uh. But you know one thing that I do think chip Kelly used
- 10:33a little bit more of the day was like quick game like tight end stick
- 10:37routes you know, like sort of three step drop concepts where you you know,
- 10:41five or six yards you know, hit hit it quickly. And again
- 10:46that's like also something that Bill Brian used more of than Day, So maybe
- 10:50that's something he's looking to add in the passing game, and you know,
- 10:52something to look for if you see a little bit more quick game concepts.
- 10:56But you know, I think that as I've as I said before, I
- 10:58mean I think that you know, I would personally say that Ryan Day has
- 11:03been a better developer of the past game that Chip Kelly has been in their
- 11:07career. So I don't think that's like an area where you will see a
- 11:11tremendous amount of change. And then, you know, I guess it does
- 11:15depend on what they feel that Will Howard's comfortable with as a quarterback, particularly
- 11:20in terms of RPOs and how much either of them rely upon that. All
- 11:26right, well, we will start finding out how much they're going to rely
- 11:28on RPOs and everything else starting next Tuesday when the Buck guys open the spring
- 11:33practice at the Pity Hayes Athletic Center. But there's going to be a lot
- 11:35to talk about and a lot to watch and a lot to follow this spring.
- 11:39A lot of interesting positional battles, some cinematic changes, much much more.
- 11:43We're gonna be talking on tomorrow show about the defense and what we're watching
- 11:46for there, so you can look forward to that coming up in about twenty
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