Latest / Mythic Mind Games / 15 - Elder Scrolls Cosmogony Told: Anu, Padomay, and the Making of Mundus
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- 0:19Speaker 1: All right, now let's get to it. Hey there, I'm
- 0:22Speaker 1: doctor Andrew Snyder. I'm professor of philosophy and theology. And
- 0:26Speaker 1: if you can't tell, I like the Elder Scrolls. What
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- 0:35Speaker 1: of the Elder Scrolls. Now in universe. There are a
- 0:38Speaker 1: lot of conflicting accounts as exactly how this plays out,
- 0:41Speaker 1: but I think I do a pretty decent job in
- 0:44Speaker 1: succinctly getting at the highlights while mentioning some of those
- 0:47Speaker 1: divisions along the way. So just know this is not
- 0:50Speaker 1: my attempt to be exhausted, but I do think that
- 0:52Speaker 1: it hits the highlights pretty well that the central themes
- 0:54Speaker 1: and ideas. Now, this is put together in preparation for
- 0:58Speaker 1: my upcoming course on the Scrolls and Philosophy, which is
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- 1:37Speaker 1: providing an analysis of the creation story that you're about
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- 1:42Speaker 1: hope that you'll consider joining us in this course. But
- 1:45Speaker 1: for now, let's go ahead and get into the creation
- 1:47Speaker 1: story of the Elder Scrolls universe. In the beginning, where
- 2:13Speaker 1: Onu and padame order in chaos even more primordial than
- 2:17Speaker 1: what we would call gods. Onu and Padame stand for
- 2:20Speaker 1: form as such and void as such. Desiring to reflect
- 2:24Speaker 1: upon himself with consciousness, Onu projected forth from his own
- 2:28Speaker 1: being a soul, which was named a Nuiel, the everlasting
- 2:32Speaker 1: Light and the soul of all things. Patame did likewise,
- 2:36Speaker 1: and thus came to be Scythus the nothingness, the void,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and as some would know him, the Dreadfather. Through the
- 2:43Speaker 1: order chaos dialectic of an Nuiel in scythus the gray
- 2:47Speaker 1: center or Orbis was made. This ambiguous creation is the
- 2:51Speaker 1: womb of worlds that would give rise the plains of Ethereus, oblivion,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and eventually the mortal realm of Mundus, as well as
- 2:59Speaker 1: those that would inhabit them. As with many aspects of
- 3:01Speaker 1: this mythology, it is debatable whether a Nuiel or Scythis
- 3:05Speaker 1: are principally responsible for the creation of Arbis. Many cultures
- 3:08Speaker 1: honor Annuiel for his active role in creation, but he
- 3:11Speaker 1: is often seen as a catalyst rather than the principal actor.
- 3:15Speaker 1: As it is written in monomyth, Scythis is held in
- 3:18Speaker 1: highest esteem because he is the one that causes the reaction.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Cythis is thus the original creator, an entity who intrinsically
- 3:25Speaker 1: causes change without design. Even the hist acknowledged this being
- 3:30Speaker 1: being an emanation of order. Annueel is associated with stability,
- 3:34Speaker 1: which changes. Not Cythis, however, as an emanation of chaos,
- 3:39Speaker 1: is associated with change, and never has there been a
- 3:42Speaker 1: greater change than the beginning of the cosmos that previously
- 3:45Speaker 1: was not. However, the formation of new things requires form,
- 3:50Speaker 1: which is supplied by an Nuiel. Thus Cythis is the
- 3:53Speaker 1: active agent of creation. Although annuiel is its order and
- 3:56Speaker 1: its life within Arbis came further emanation from Anuiel and
- 4:01Speaker 1: Scythis from a Nuiel came Ariel, also known as Acotash,
- 4:04Speaker 1: the dragon god, chief god of the divines, and lord
- 4:07Speaker 1: of Time, which he gave to Arbis to provide stability.
- 4:10Speaker 1: In sequence, as the almroads say Ril bled through Arbis
- 4:15Speaker 1: as a new force called time. With time various aspects,
- 4:18Speaker 1: the Arbist began to understand their natures in limitations. With
- 4:22Speaker 1: this new stability came the host of original spirits or
- 4:25Speaker 1: the et Ada, which would become the Adra and the Deadra,
- 4:28Speaker 1: depending on whether they were attached to the light of
- 4:30Speaker 1: Anu or the void. Apadame from Scythis came forth the
- 4:34Speaker 1: emanation that would be known as Lorcan, the missing god.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Lorcan was at least for a time, more of a
- 4:40Speaker 1: limit than in nature, so he can never last long anywhere.
- 4:43Speaker 1: As he entered every aspect of an Nuiel, Lorcan would
- 4:46Speaker 1: plant an idea that was almost wholly based on limitation.
- 4:50Speaker 1: He outlined a plan to create a soul for the Arbis,
- 4:53Speaker 1: a place where the aspects of aspects might be allowed
- 4:56Speaker 1: to self reflect. He gained many allies, including Ari, and
- 5:00Speaker 1: so they created Mundas. Now the peoples of Tamriel do
- 5:05Speaker 1: not agree on the intentions or justifications with which Lorcan
- 5:08Speaker 1: incited the creation of Mundas, whether the limitations of the
- 5:11Speaker 1: mortal realm were intended to be a boon for a
- 5:13Speaker 1: reflection in transcendence, or whether this was an attempt to
- 5:16Speaker 1: weaken the gods and so move Arpis back toward the
- 5:20Speaker 1: void of which Lorcan himself was born. These contrasting theologies
- 5:24Speaker 1: give rise to the hostility that is often found between
- 5:27Speaker 1: men and elves, the men of Syridil who know Lorcan.
- 5:30Speaker 1: As Shazar write in Shazar's Song, Shazar spoke beautifully of
- 5:35Speaker 1: creation and the ennoblement of sacrifice, inciting the Adra to
- 5:38Speaker 1: create the mortal world. However, this creation left them weakened
- 5:42Speaker 1: and angry at their lessoned state. These gods of the
- 5:44Speaker 1: elves vowed vengeance upon Shazar and his enemies, and encouraged
- 5:48Speaker 1: the elves to be stoic against the harshness of mortality.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Yet other Adra, the gods of men and beast folk,
- 5:55Speaker 1: led by Acotash, praise and cherish their wards the mortal
- 5:59Speaker 1: races and unto each other. Let us teach the mortal
- 6:02Speaker 1: races to live well, to cherish beauty and honor, and
- 6:05Speaker 1: to love one another as we love them. Thus, the
- 6:08Speaker 1: gods of men, often known as the divines, were tender
- 6:12Speaker 1: and patient, and thus are the men and beast folk,
- 6:14Speaker 1: great in heart or joy or suffering, and ambitious for
- 6:18Speaker 1: greater wisdom and a better world. Thus, men often praise Lorcan,
- 6:22Speaker 1: viewing the creation a mundus as a divine mercy, an
- 6:25Speaker 1: enlightenment whereby lesser creatures can reach immortality. The Almer, however,
- 6:30Speaker 1: tend to view this act of creation as a trick
- 6:32Speaker 1: that sundered their connection to the spirit playing For while
- 6:35Speaker 1: men understand that they were created by the gods, the
- 6:38Speaker 1: Almer believed that they are actually descended from the gods
- 6:41Speaker 1: and thereby share to some degree in the essence of divinity. Thus,
- 6:45Speaker 1: the weakening of the gods is understood personally, and their
- 6:48Speaker 1: mortal frame is despised as at a lesser state of
- 6:51Speaker 1: being than the rights of their nature would grant. Regardless
- 6:54Speaker 1: of Lorcan's intentions, many of the great spirits willingly underwent
- 6:58Speaker 1: the sacrifice that would be required in establishing the mortal realm.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Many of the et Ada vanished completely with this act.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Some escaped like Magnus, and that is why there are
- 7:07Speaker 1: no limitations to magic. Ifri transformed into Eenophrey the earth bones,
- 7:13Speaker 1: so the whole world might not die, and according to
- 7:16Speaker 1: the Altmer, some married, and each generation of children was
- 7:19Speaker 1: weaker until they became the Almer. The Deatra mocked the
- 7:23Speaker 1: Adra for their sacrifice in the creation of a world
- 7:26Speaker 1: that is, in its essence other than what they are,
- 7:28Speaker 1: and they instead created a world within themselves to be
- 7:31Speaker 1: forever theirs and under their complete control. However, the greater
- 7:36Speaker 1: Dadra often found the passions and ambitions of mortals to
- 7:39Speaker 1: be more entertaining than that of the lesser Datra, and
- 7:41Speaker 1: thus they often sought to court and to seduce certain
- 7:44Speaker 1: amusing specimens of the mortal races, especially the passionate and
- 7:48Speaker 1: the powerful. The Dedra lords reveled in taking the best
- 7:51Speaker 1: of mortals, thereby demonstrating the preferability of dadrech, glory and
- 7:56Speaker 1: power to the feeble vulgarity of the Adra, and so
- 8:00Speaker 1: Arbis continues to be the gray center, the meeting place
- 8:03Speaker 1: of order and chaos, of being, and void of atherius
- 8:07Speaker 1: and oblivion. The limitations of the mortal plane may either
- 8:11Speaker 1: be a vile trick of a nefarious god bent on
- 8:14Speaker 1: returning all things to darkness, or they may be due
- 8:17Speaker 1: to an act of divine beneficence by which mortals and
- 8:20Speaker 1: even gods might achieve higher transcendence through the reflection made
- 8:24Speaker 1: possible only by such limitations. For it is only through
- 8:28Speaker 1: the limitations of being that transcendence might be made possible.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And now let us end with a summary of such
- 8:34Speaker 1: things found in the anonymously written Spirit of Nern. Some
- 8:38Speaker 1: wish to return to the original state, the spirit realm,
- 8:41Speaker 1: and believe that Lorcan is the demon that hinders their
- 8:43Speaker 1: way to them. Nern is a prison, an allusion to escape.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Others think that Lorcan created the world as a testing
- 8:50Speaker 1: ground for transcendence. To them, the spirit realm was already
- 8:53Speaker 1: a prison, and thats true. Escape is now finally possible.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Regardless of how one views this act creation, the creation
- 9:01Speaker 1: of the mortal plane, the mundus Nern, is a source
- 9:05Speaker 1: of mental anguish to all living things. All souls know
- 9:08Speaker 1: deep down that they came originally from somewhere else, and
- 9:12Speaker 1: that Neurn is a cruel and crucial step to what
- 9:15Speaker 1: comes next.