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Scott Donald - Be Present, Be Patient, Be Persistent · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody is KCK45Cat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to K.
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  SPEAKER_01: We learn about how there are rays.
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  SPEAKER_01: We learned about the life that we're forced up.
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  SPEAKER_01: We learned about the values that we're forgiven.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: We learned about how we can work hard to become a better quarterback or leader of our fault.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's sit back, relax, and listen to today's episode of Quarterback Jack.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well everybody, it's KCJ Talks with the quarterback jackass.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are uh functional on extremely long hard in season seven on the on the uh on the goal to get from the past to get to a thousand dads or ways away or faster in the 370s.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: But uh we got momentum, everybody, and I appreciate everybody who don't join us every Thursday to listen to us dads talk about ways that we can learn um better leaders, fathers, husbands uh.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: And our next guest is named Scott Donald.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: I came across Scott through uh Maddie Ferguson, uh one of my sales nerd buddies.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Scott and I both asked about the word curiosity, which um the rifle data 50 that is a super power when it's when it's applied.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh is the he's a he's a founder of a sales effectiveness and um sales strategy and sales fundamentals and sales best practices, and I'm sure I'm missing some things, but um, anytime I can talk to fellow sales nerds that can help other companies or other help dad, I'm always I'm always on board.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: He's from the great white north, everybody up in Winnipeg.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: He's a he's a hockey guy.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um but that's with all that said, that's not why we're here to talk to Scott.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're here to talk to Scott about Scott the Dad and how he's working hard to become the ultimate leader of his home.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: So without further ado, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Donald, welcome to the quarterback dad cast.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for having me.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_03: This is uh this is awesome.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we always start out with each episode gratitude.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: So tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, just kind of based on what we talked about before we jumped on air, I would have to say I'm grateful for the fact that both my kids uh live here in Winnipeg and uh uh they live close by to see them on a regular basis.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think I'm also grateful for the fact that they're at an age now where I went from being, you know, dad, which was awesome, to dad.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_03: You don't know anything to, you know, dad, you know, I need some help, I need some advice.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_03: Right, so there's that evolution.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_03: So I think I'm grateful for the fact that my kids are involved or involved with their lives, and I'm grateful for the fact that uh um I'm not quite as dumb as I used to be.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard people say that if you go from caregiver uh to coach to consultant.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, I can see that.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think you kind of just described that, you made me think of that when you said that.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'd say what I'm grateful for, and we and we joked about this before we start recording, Scott, is um, and I'm sorry everybody, I know that if you've listened every week, this is a theme, but I'm I am like days away from becoming an empty nester, so I'm just grateful for these moments with um both kids at home.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: My my wife and daughter, they did a last-minute trip, they're going up to the San Juan Islands to visit her dad.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and the grandparents are super jacked up and excited.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so my son and I have had a busy work morning, and we're gonna go play golf this afternoon and uh spend some time together and hopefully laugh.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: And uh hopefully he doesn't kick my butt too too bad.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, honestly, and I'm I know that this is your podcast, but I want to ask you a question.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_03: Who who's typically the better golfer and how competitive are you with your son?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um he is definitely the better golfer.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm uh three right now.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's a scratch or come on.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's annoying.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean I'm gonna get some strokes for him.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I can still pump it by him a couple of yards sometimes.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: But um I can definitely beat him, but I honestly the I'll answer I'll answer your question that's for the best one of my best days ever as a dad on Father's Day, his sophomore year in high school, he beat me by one on Father's Day.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: I always joke best, and I didn't I never let him win because I wanted to earn it.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: And um and we don't get too competitive.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: I just I'm always I try to help remind him that golf is a game of failure and misses, and but it's a such a game of character, and um it's a life game because it how you handle the tough times is the golf game will show you.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Are you the guy that throws clubs, swears really loud?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if so, are you gonna be that guy?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: I used to be.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_03: I used to be that guy.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um so interesting that you said that you're you never let your son win, and maybe this is a good dad lesson.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um my wife and I were joking the other day.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_03: So I have a uh I have a brother who lives in Massachusetts, and uh he's a year younger than me.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: When our son was when my when my son was younger, we would play ministicks in the basement.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_03: I those are some of the best memories of going downstairs and playing little ministick games in the basement.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_03: And invariably my son often won like 10 to 9.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's how it worked out.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_03: Because when he was little I let him win, and a lot of our little mini-stick hockey games ended up in in wrestling matches.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: But Uncle Greg would beat him.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_03: And we had to say, Uncle Greg, you're supposed to let them, you know, feel good about themselves when they're that little.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm not sure what the lesson is in there.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but when they're younger, you let them feel good about themselves, and then when you're older, you know, now it's me on a more of an even keel, and you know, whatever happens, happens, right?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_03: But it's uh still easy to be competitive.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no, and I was so for clarity, when they were younger, always.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't like, you know, doing touchdown dances over two two-year-old, you know, when they were but when he's but as he got into competitive golf, I wanted because I wanted he if if I my thought was if if we don't make it realistic, uh he's gonna struggle when the lights come on.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_03: And uh what at what age, Casey, did you start doing touchdown dances over top of him?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: I always say act like you've been in the end zone before.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: Act like you've been the end zone.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_03: So one of the things, and this is maybe another continue on of that of that gratitude piece.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, my son still plays hockey and so do I, although I'm still trying and he's still playing.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_03: And it's awesome that he'll come out.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we play Thursday nights from October, beginning of October to the end of March.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a handful of times during the year where he'll come out and skate with us old guys on Thursdays.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: And uh so I'm really thankful for that.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, I feel like you may handle this better than I do because when we play, the goalies switch ends part way through.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_03: So part of the time we're on the same team and part of the time he's shooting against me.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_03: And when he scores, now now I don't know if this is a hockey term or a Canadian term, but when he scores, he trips me pretty hard.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_03: And when I stop him, the trips come back even harder the other way.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_03: So I think you know the the opportunity to sort of play golf or play hockey with your kid, it's pretty special, isn't it?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's the best.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's the best.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I try to um what I love about the game of golf, it it's a game, like I mentioned, it's a game of failure.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't don't let one shot define you.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: I use I trend sometimes try to use our time together as one, just enjoy being outside, walking, get some exercise, but also you're uh I've yet to see the someone play golf where every single shot was perfect.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: But yet we assume that we're gonna hit these great shots every single time.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, I don't care how you make a par, just go try to go make a par.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: It could be the ugliest par in the world, but there's the scorecard that we use down where I live, they're pencils and the paper, they're not video.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: You can't watch how you did it.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_03: So you made an interesting point about the idea of expecting to make a par.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_03: But I wonder if there's a there's an interesting mindset angle here in the sense that when you're standing on the T of a tight fairway, are you assuming you're gonna hit the fairway?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: Or when you're when you're when you're 150 yards out, and this is got if you're 150 yards out to a green with sand and water around it, and you pull out your eight iron, that's what I would use, are you expecting to hit the green, or are you expecting, oh I'm gonna end up in the trap or the water?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's an interesting mindset thing we can also help our kids with, right?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because do you see the water or do you see the pin?
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_03: How does that approach how does that affect your approach to golf, but also how does that approach your your your life?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think aim aim aim small, miss small is what someone would taught me.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I, you know, you you bring up our visualization.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: Earlier in my life as a dad, we you know, I know goal setting was really important to me and visualization is important to me, so like if I didn't sell that my kids, but they have like they have you know goal boards, vision boards that they did by themselves.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: We did as activities together.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's fun now.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: As soon as I go by, I'll see I'll see them erase and they'll have some new goals out there.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh cool, which instead of it gives me a chance to ask more questions, which are a lot of curiosity.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um anyway, I want to keep us on track because I want this is about you, but I appreciate those questions, they're awesome.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Just good back and forth.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um bring me inside.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: So you got your kind of an empty nester, we joked about before, but yeah, I always love hearing how did you and your spouse meet and then talk about a little bit about um the two members of the team inside the huddle.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_03: The two members of the team.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_03: So um I moved into this part of Winnipeg in 1977, uh going into grade seven.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: That's how old I am for those of you that are doing the math now.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_03: And my wife and I went to school together, but really didn't know each other until around grade 11.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_03: And we started dating in grade 12, and we, you know, went to went to prom together, if you will, and and we dated for six years, and I always I always joke that we decided that nothing better was gonna come along, so we decided to marry each other.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um, this is an ongoing joke in the household.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we started dating in high school, uh, dated for six years.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um so we would have married when we were 23, turning 24.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_03: Our son, so that was in 1990, our son was born in 1994, and our daughter in 1997, and it's interesting, right?
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um You know, so I turned 60 last month, um, and you think about these significant events, and it's interesting how I always felt like you know, you would get you'd graduate and that'd be a big deal, and somehow you would change, and then I thought, okay, well, when you get married, then surely you would change, right?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: And then I thought, okay, well, when I start having kids, you know, I will change, whatever that means.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and then my you know, then I hit 30 and 40, and my kids are, you know, graduating from high school and you're hitting all these major milestones.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and strangely, and I don't know if everyone has this experience, I'm still waiting for that significant life event that's gonna make me feel really different.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: But I still feel like Scott Donald, whether that's good or bad or indifferent.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_03: So it's it's kind of interesting, right?
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and I thought 60 would be the one.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: I thought, man, when I turn 60, okay, I'm now gonna feel like an old man, and I may want to start exploring like you know, walkers or like medical chairs or something to that extent.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know, but um, you know, I'm gonna play indoor soccer this winter, I'm gonna play hockey this summer, hopefully get on the ice with my kid.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: These things don't really change, right?
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: You just you just kind of keep plugging away and trying to do your best.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, I don't I don't know if that necessarily answered your question, other than the fact that you know things weren't planned out.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_03: They kind of happened at whatever time period they happened, and um I don't feel any different than 20-year-old God, other than I'm probably about 25 pounds heavier, but otherwise, you know, I'm still still the same.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: So you, which is good.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think the authenticity is a gift.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um I uh I I remember we joked because I turned 50 this year, and me it's just a number.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: I actually love me, I think it's kind of cool to um congratulations.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Phil, you know, and I'm actually we have our golf club championship this weekend, which I'm gonna just I have no expectations other than to have fun and uh whatever the golf gods have in store for me, it's that's you know, we'll find out.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I I'm in the senior division for the first time.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_03: So when you hit 50, you're now in the senior division.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually in both.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in the open division and the senior division, but okay.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's like, I don't know, it's kind of cool.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I don't I still feel like in my mind I can still think I can still call football plays back from Uncle Rico college football days.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: I can still see myself doing it.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, did you just we would have once stayed if Coach would have put me in?
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: Is that what you're saying?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's classic.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: Every time I reference my college football days, I give love to Uncle Rico.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: So I hope I hope most of the people that are listening are are are familiar with that reference and don't think that we're just rambling incoherently about Uncle Rico, because probably one of the best movies ever made, right?
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, believe it or not, there's a uh, so not to get too off track, but when I do when I speak at like sales conferences or for like sales kickoffs, I'll mention there's a picture of me and my family, and I show a picture of me way back in the day, 1998, playing football.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: And um, then if I say, doesn't I ask if anybody knows who Uncle Rico is?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes they're like, who?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes people giggle.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, just to make sure we're all on the same page, we're gonna watch a book little video and I play that scene.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it just is like the best icebreaker ever.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh just kind of like, What is who the hell have we brought in to speak what Alan?
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, so I I love that you got that reference, by the way.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's interesting too, right?
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_03: Because we're talking about looking back on you know the past and what could have been or what has been that type of thing.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_03: Again, going back to these milestones.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: I remember um there's a there's a casino about an hour north of Winnipeg, and um uh bunch of us are going for a ride on our motorcycles, and uh, there must have been six or eight of us to get there.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_03: And they started offering seniors discounts on the meals there at 50 years old, and I was the only person there that didn't get a discount.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: I remember being mad to like, hey, we're going after we're going back in in July or August when I turn 50, so I can get my discount.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like so.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think to your point, there are advantages beyond just hopefully some wisdom and some uh you know better abilities to to uh ride the highs and lows.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you also get discounts at some places too, right?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_03: So there are advantages to being 50 and 60.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it doesn't mean we're smart, but we have wisdom, you know, and I think someone said for some recently that there's knowledge, knowledge is you know you can learn, and people in their 30s and 20s can have no can have knowledge, but wisdom is experience.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I always love talking to dads who have raised kids.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, if there's a younger dad listening, like I hope you got a page, you know, piece of paper and pen out like I do, and take notes and try to take something from these episodes that we can apply in our own life to because I know like from interviewing 300 and something, 70 something close to 400 dads, I've become more patient.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'm my patience gets the best of me.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm a flawed human like most people, but I am more patient and it's fun.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: And even when I'm not patient, I quickly realize, okay, why did I get why did I lose my shit?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Why is I absolutely and then I at least then I go to my family and I'll apologize.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'll say, Hey guys, dad, my bad, not my best me.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's dad's gap.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: We all have gaps, but I'm working on it.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: So um anyway, long story short, thanks again for coming on.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: But I always like learning about my guests from what was life like growing up for you.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I'd love to earn lot I'd love to learn more about the impact mom and dad had on you that from a values perspective that really helped you in in your journey as a dad.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: Really interesting question.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I don't know that I can do it justice because I feel like I haven't thought it through enough.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and we don't we only have so much time.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think we um for for a uh a while, probably during my formative years, we actually lived with my with my grandparents.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_03: And so my grandpa uh in particular is probably a good role model for me.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, my mom went through some tough times and you know came back to Canada with not a lot of money.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I think that um I think that there's a lesson there around you know the importance of family and having you know extended family to lean on.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: I think there's a there's a notion of um the ability to uh get through tough times.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: I want to frame this in a positive slant and not a not a negative slant, but the idea that we have the ability to make decisions about right and wrong and and and driving ourselves to do certain things sort of almost instead of or in spite of maybe our our our bringings and backgrounds, I think that we we we have a lot of control and we can give our kids a lot of sense of control over their destinies, even though things might be challenging around them.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I think maybe the other part that's important out of that is you I think it's almost easier to appreciate what you have.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: You know, when you don't have a lot, you can it's still easier to appreciate it.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I I remember a story that this is it this is interesting, and hopefully it it it connects to what you're looking for here.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_03: But uh our son was in high school uh and you know had his sort of first serious girlfriend, and and his girlfriend father owned a sheet metal company, and the older brother of the girlfriend worked at the sheet metal company, and and um remember the my you know our son telling us that the older brother had a company vehicle and basically got whatever he wanted and didn't have to necessarily work for it.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: And our son at all of 17 or 18 years old says they're not doing him any favors by giving him all that stuff.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, where'd that bit of wisdom come from?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: But I think it's it's maybe the lesson here is that even more than what you say, it's what you do and how you act.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and being, you know, maybe you don't even realize you're you're being a role model even when you're not being a role model.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: And every once in a while, you know, and I'm sure you've had a two where your kids will say something or do something, you're like, huh.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: You know, not that I'm surprised, but I'm still kind of surprised and impressed that they made that decision or they they uh made that observation.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and you know, hopefully you can say, well, hopefully hopefully some of the things that I did as a parent um quietly gave them the perspective to make that observation.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean I think um curiosity is we talked about that already.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: My my son's he's got an internship this year, and uh he's he's already realizing dad, you're maybe you aren't a dipshit.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe curiosity really works.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe, maybe you're not a dipshit.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: There's still there's still hope.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still not fully convinced you're not, but I love that.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um so live with grandparents.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, did mom and dad divorce earlier?
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Were they together?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so um I actually was born in Winnipeg.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: My uh my parents moved to uh to Seattle.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we lived in uh the Federal Way area in Seattle.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I got uh uh uh I have a stepsister who lives in Snohomish and a stepbrother who lives somewhere in that Milton area.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's a big area, I get all confused.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um so when my mom and dad split, we came back to Winnipeg.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh an uncle drove us in a U-Haul, and my mom had a couple pieces of furniture, two kids, a dog, and$170 to her name, and came back to live with mom and dad here in Winnipeg, and uh the rest is history.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: So being going that I mean, I wrote down the word adversity and grit.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would think without knowing it, you probably learned a lot about those two words going through that experience, I would imagine.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's interesting that you say that, so I don't know that I've connected those two, and I appreciate the connection.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so whether somewhere on the whether you call it you can call it stubbornness, you can call it refusing to lose.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: I've always been a bad loser.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: And every situation goes back, remember the thing we talked about throwing golf clubs?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that kind of thing.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I I think it's interesting, right?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: So whether it's the role models that you had as a kid, my mom or my grandparents, or you know, kind of going through those experiences, um, I find that now um there's a certain persistence and sictuativeness that I have trouble shaking.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know is that is that something it's an inherent character piece?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Is that something I learned from the people around me?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, good question.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Driven, I would think.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: That I mean, I I wrote that just made me think the word driven, which are if if a sales team has adversity grit and they're driven, most likely they're gonna be successful.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um at least halfway there.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's a great point.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: I might I'm gonna add something to this because and I'm not trying to make this into a sales lesson, but but invariably I think it is, and it's hopefully a life lesson as well.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: Younger Scott was pretty driven, and I worked my butt off, you know, and you tend to measure your your you tend to measure your grid or your effort by the activities that you do.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: But I think the piece that was missing, and I want to take it to a football analogy, is that um if you don't have those X's and O's down, you could have a team that's out there just working their butts off and they're working hard and they're running hard and they're tackling hard and they're blocking hard.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: But if they don't have the X's and O's and this and the execution of those X's and O's, it's still gonna be a bit of a hot mess.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: So I think one of the lessons that I've learned as I've gotten older is not just the grit determination and and working hard, but you know, um turning that effort into productive activity.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I see I see, you know, I see lots of organizations that are working really, really hard.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't know that they're necessarily evaluating, are we spending our time in the areas that are gonna make the biggest difference?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Time is that's one thing when I love when I hear people say I don't have time.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, really?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't guess I'm confused because we all get 1,440 minutes a day, no one gets more, no one gets less.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: You just I think instead of just instead of saying you don't have time, just saying you're choosing to use your time differently than me.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: I had a coaching call on with a guy who's even older than me, if you can believe that.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: And when we started the call, he said to me that a buddy Had reached out to him.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: This guy's not retired, but he's probably got one toe into retirement.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: And he said a buddy had called him to see if he wanted to go fishing.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's how we started our coaching call.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: And then when we were done, we were a little bit over time.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, You probably need to get going.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: I said, Listen, it's Tuesday.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to have lunch with my wife, and then I'm going to hop on the motorcycle and I'm going to go for a ride.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to find a space to work for a couple hours.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: And he said, I wish I could go for a ride.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I said, There's nobody stopping you.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, go do it.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: He he was he said in their very first call, he said, I'm a workaholic.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then you find out that like most people who are who like to pride themselves in being a workaholic, it's all things that they choose to do.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: There's absolutely no reason that you can't go golfing with your son this afternoon.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: There's no reason that I can't go for a ride in the motorcycle.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: There's no reason that this gentleman couldn't have taken off an hour or two and gone fishing with a buddy of his.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: At the end of the day, you know, you gotta find that balance.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Choice.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, it is about choice.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then and then you can't gripe about, you can't, on the one hand, yeah, I'm gonna get up on my soapbox right now.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: You can't, on the one hand, brag or complain about how many hours you work, and then on the other hand, say, I can't afford to take time off to go to my kids play after school, or take time off to go golf with my kid, because those are choices.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: And they're memories.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, I as I um that that's one thing that as a dad I learned early was um, and I've shared this before in many other episodes, but maybe that might speak to you.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: As I so I was when I was in corporate, um, right when the kids were young, things were rolling, um, you know, had was having success in sales and the company, everything life was great, but deep down Casey was miserable because I was getting home at 6 50 at night, kids were going to bed at 7, 7.15.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like the worst.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: It is the worst.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't want to be that dad to say, well, that's my job to home, you know, the breadwinner, and my wife's the no, I think it's it's a it's we're on the same team, and if my kids don't know me and have a relationship with me, and so I remember going to my boss and asking for you know time, and we talked, and I said, Man, I'm I'm miserable.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, Ace, but you're like the number one rep in our company.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you be miserable?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: I go, because I'm don't feel like I'm number one rep in my house.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not living up to being the best dad I can be.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so shout out to Angela Ronica to listen, and said, Well, why don't you leave it leave at four?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: I go, it's not a bank.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: I can't leave at four.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're and she's like, You don't trust us?
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: I go, No, I trust you.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, then leave at four, get home by five.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: If you we need you, we'll call you.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: If clients call you, answer the phone and spend two hours with your family, and then if you gotta jump on line at night, do it to get organized.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: And once I did that, my career went through another level.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I was a better dad, I was a present dad.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I hope there's dad and younger dads listening that I don't know why you should share that you maybe inspire me to share that story.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so I'm thinking about a lady that I worked with in uh in Texas when I was doing a bunch of oil and gas work, and she had this, you know, she would work long days, she'd come home, make dinner for the family, and then at eight o'clock, open up her laptop because she felt she needed to.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I remember asking her about it, and she said, Well, if I don't do that, it's gonna be a career limiting move, or a CLM, as we call it.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a whole bunch of other stuff in the middle there.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but sometime later when we had another call, she confessed to me, she goes, you know, I convinced myself, I told myself a story that these are the things I needed to do to be effective.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: But I was telling myself a story, and then she talked about how she had this aha moment about the importance of stepping off the hamster wheel of busy, which I thought was a great sort of um metaphor or description, and thinking about the things that were really important about her day.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: And then, of course, what ended up happening to the top people in an organization, right?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: Casey, you're doing a great job, so we're gonna give you this project.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and guess what, Casey?
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: This is something new that came in, and you're gonna do a good job with this, we're gonna give it to you.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: And Casey doesn't say no until Casey is either overwhelmed or Casey's no longer able to do these things at the same level.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: So one of the things that she said was, I can take on this project if you take something else off my plate.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: And and that not only has allowed her to be uh uh better at work and she's you know moved up, but it also allows her to be more present with her family.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I think we we tell ourselves a story that we have to work those long days and that we have to do all these things.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I would I would argue that either that's not true, or if that's what your company expects from you in order to be successful and it's a sacrifice to your family, then you've got some choices and some decisions to make.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's easy as a human to be the victim or the hero.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: We get a pick.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, that's true.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and it's funny, I love we're speaking the same language, Scott.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm glad we're spending time together around you.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: I say that story I all the time.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I've said to my kids sometimes, I've said a lot of the clients I work with, uh, I go, permission to coach.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I go, why why are you telling stories that haven't happened yet?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you telling me stories that don't exist?
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't the story you're telling to me, I've never even heard that in my entire life.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying that doesn't make sense.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Walk me through it.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: And usually when you kind of get them to sit in their own discomfort pain, they realize I'm not the problem.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's not a problem, it's just it's a it's a waste of time.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Different way of looking at things.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, different things.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_03: But isn't that the benefit of coaching?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: Is that is that that hour that you're spending with that person might be the only hour they spend that week or that month just thinking about themselves.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: First, it's usually it's company and family and whatever level, and then at the bottom is the person.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: So when you get them to have those conversations, I I I used to say I love starting coaching conversations like this.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: Casey, tell me what you do for fun outside of work, and some of people will tell you really quickly, some people will have to struggle with it, some people will say, you know, I used to golf a lot, but I don't have time for that anymore.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, okay, I'm making a note of that, and we'd continue on through the discussion, and then we'd come back to that and say, How do we find time for you to do the things that bring you joy?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_03: That could be golfing, although if you're getting joy from golfing, there's probably something wrong with you.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but that right.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but if that what brings you joy is spending more time with your kids or getting back into coaching your kids and whatever that thing is, right?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: I love this whole conversation that that's a decision that you can make.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Don't tell yourself a story that you can't do it.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_03: And if it is the truth, because you don't think you can, then I would, you know, I'm not telling people to quit their jobs, and I am saying that if you work for a company that demands that you sacrifice family in order to be successful at work, then you've probably got some hard again, hard choices and hard conversations to have.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is that the place you want to work?
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, um I yeah, I mean so much I can go different spots.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: I I want to go back to grandma and grandpa.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um if if you to think about two or three values that or lessons um or themes that really shaped you as you got uh older in life and experience, tell me what comes to mind.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Casey, you're asking some tough questions.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I'm thinking about certain instances, and then I'm gonna see if there's a if there's a a lesson in here.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: When we were younger and we'd all you know be at the table together, we were quite young, my grandma would say something, oh, it's so nice that we're all here together right now.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I'd kind of tease my grandma, and guess what?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm now that guy, right?
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: When we have our our our Wednesday dinners, and you know, our son and his girlfriend come over, and they bring their, you know, he brings Duffy over, who is our grand dog, who we get to see a lot, and then she also brings her dog Rizzo, and then our daughter's here, and although she's dog sitting down the road, she comes.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, there I catch myself now having those moments where I'm maybe sitting at the table or sitting in sitting in the west wing of the house, and I'm joking because our house isn't that big.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: Just having those moments of like, okay, I get what my nana was saying when she would make that comment about it's nice or all together.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's just really interesting to sort of step back and and and I'm not quite sure to describe it other more anything more than the value of family and the fact that you get to spend time together and that your kids want to spend time with you.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: So I think so.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe that's one of the things.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then the other one that comes to mind, and again, maybe you can help me come up with a life lesson in this one.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but my grandpa used to like to play crib.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: My grandpa taught me how to play crib.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I don't know if you've ever played crib with anyone like this, but if you didn't count all your points in your hand, he would take.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_03: And he also, you know, he worked hard, he worked in the mind, he did all kinds of things.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: So he had he had like the grandpa strength, which because I'm not a grandpa, I don't have that, I guess.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe when my son has a kid, I'll have grandpa strength.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not there yet.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but when when if you were beating him in crib and then he got ahead of you, he'd reach out to the table and grab your knee and go, who's ahead now?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, my grandpa was kind of a nice playful shithead about stuff, which you know I I fully respect.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so what's the lesson there?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: I think that it goes back to the previous lesson about the importance of doing things with family and developing those relationships.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, uh I think in it, I'm just thinking about this now that my grandpa, who we refer to as Popeye, I don't know where that even came from, forced you to sort of slow down and make sure you properly counted all your points that you didn't leave anything behind.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: And I guess that there's an inadvertent sort of an inadvertent lesson about slowing down thoroughness, not rushing through the process, you know, being a little more methodical.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_03: And and it's funny because I am a big fan of that lesson, that in order for organizations and people to get better, they do need to slow down before they can speed up.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe there's maybe there's a cribbage analogy in there that don't don't miss some of the points in your hand.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: You know, maybe you've maybe you've got a run in there, maybe you've got the right jack, maybe you know, maybe you've got all the same suit.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: And if you miss it, your grandpa's gonna take the points from you.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: So you better slow down and do it right so that you can get ahead.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: There's a there's a good analogy in there.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: I thought I think of a LinkedIn post.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: I just was gonna say that.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: I said, make a link, because you got some great LinkedIn content.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Scott, make that a LinkedIn post and tie in grandpa, tag me in it so I know it happened.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: There's the accountability right there.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I promise.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so here's here's what it took from that.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Grandma, be where your feet are, be present.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_04: Ooh.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um I wrote that down when I went about family dinners and and family moments.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't you don't need to go on vacation.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't need to be, it could be it could be a walk to it could be a car ride.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: It could be like my we were in Nichtron Washington this past weekend, and uh I said, kids, honey, get in the car.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: We're taking the dog to the river.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: That you'll freak out.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um the dogs will freak out.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um we were there for 30 minutes and watched the dog swim, and the water felt amazing, and like I'll have that memory in my mind for the next two months when the kids will go off to college.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: That'll bring happiness to me.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um your grandpa, uh I I I I love when grandparents teach cribbage.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: My grandparents taught me cribbage.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: We me and my wife play cribbage all the time.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: My daughter is for some reason resisting learning to play cribbage, so I'm trying to meet her where she's at and not make it my idea.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: I need to make it her idea, not mine.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I I get it, yeah.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you said so much about like, you know, he he taught you that fundamentals matter.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: He taught about do it the right way.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, which is great life advice, it's great sales advice, it's great.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I love that you say slow down to go fast.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: I can't tell you the number of times I tell my clients that they just don't see it because they're in it.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: They just they're do they're focusing on the wrong activities.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: They can't see it because they're in it.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: So two, I'm gonna do two sayings.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: You can't read the label from inside the jar.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: And fish discover water last.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's the value of working with somebody external is the fact that they have that outside objective perspective.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, maybe, maybe it is a parent who's been through the same thing and can provide you with some guidance about that situation, or maybe it's someone like yourself who's going into an organization with that outside perspective and saying, you know what, have you ever considered this?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: And they're gonna go, huh?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: I never did think about that.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, my name is Blaise Basel, and I hope you're enjoying today's episode of the Quarterback Dad Cast.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: In case you're wondering, I'm a fellow dad and also the president of Kelly Mitchell.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Kelly Mitchell's an employee-owned technology solutions firm, and we help organizations solve complex business challenges.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think at the end of the day, we're we're focused on our team doing work that matters for our clients.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that's because the way you show up matters, the way you treat people, clients, teammates, really everyone.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: That shapes the experience and the results that follow.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think similarly, Casey has had a real impact on our team internally at Kelly Mitchell.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: He spent time with us most recently in St.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Louis with our sales team, and while he was there, he asked a question that really stuck with me, and that was Do you believe that what you do matters?
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: That question stayed with us.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's changed how we approach our day-to-day, how we prepare, how we communicate, and ultimately how we follow through.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's why the experience Casey brings to his customers has made such an impact.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because whether when people believe their work matters, everything works better across the team, with our uh clients, and definitely in results.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: So we appreciate you, Casey, and now back to the podcast.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever played Blind Cribbage where you, if you don't get points in your crib, you go back and buy points?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's like a stupid rule.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: We we play we played two versions of this game with with different couples, and the one version that we're playing more, we call it blind crib, where you actually deal six cards to everybody, but you can't look at your cards, and then you put the one card in the middle, you put the rest of the deck in the middle, you flip it up, and now you go around the table, so you know you and I might be partners, and our wives might be partners.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: So if the middle is a is a king, I'm gonna put a face card or a five under the king.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: And then when you're coming around, you're gonna try to build out that rule as well.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: And they're building out their rules across and trying to stop you, but you don't see the card until your next turn.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: So you're you're building runs and you're building 15s.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I hope I hope if nothing else from this discussion.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully the the listeners are learning how to play blind trim.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: I just realized I was on a bit of a rap.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: I want to give you one other thing that I thought of now that I think is is really relevant for a number of reasons.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_03: So my grandmother's uh uh brother, my uncle, um, was very active in his local um golf course, which is about 20 minutes from me here, called Elmhurst.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: And very funny, pretty funny guy in.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I was probably 11, 12, 13, I'm not sure when he passed.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_03: And I guess I was just starting to take up golf.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: But I went to visit him in the hospital, and I don't think I fully appreciated that he was dying, but I went to visit him in the hospital, and one of the things he said to me, which I think is one of those golf analogies that's holds so true for life, the last thing he said to me was keep your head down and follow through.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought, ooh, that and that now I have the ability to look back and go, wow, that was pretty cool.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: Because I think that applies to golf, because you know when you when you miss hit one, probably because you came up a little too quick.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: Although being a free handicap, you don't have to worry about that, so whatever.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it happens, trust me.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but also in terms of just in terms of being a parent in pr in terms of life, just keep your head down and follow through.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's a really powerful advice.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: 100% it is.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I think dads, we gotta remember that this is the most important job we've ever had in our lives, yet there's no test.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: You just you get you get the job.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's it's it's uh you're working on the manual, you're flying the plane in the air.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, that's true.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta ask for help.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I always tell people that interview is that you don't need a podcast to have conversations, you need intent.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: Pick the phone up.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Don't text a friend, pick up, pick up the phone or ask a friend, hey, can we meet for coffee?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Or what?
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to talk and just shoot the shit.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: And ask for help.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: That that's an interesting one, isn't it?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, most dads don't like doing it.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean most men don't like doing it.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, they don't.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I'd say the three values that drive me and many of my listeners have probably heard this, but is to be the um is I fell in love with humility, vulnerability, and curiosity.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_03: And vulnerability requires that there's that curiosity word again.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Vulnerability requires me to ask for help and realize, like, for example, my buddies and and a lot of my friends and wife, they make fun of me because I am not a handy guy.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: Me either.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: I used to care.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: My male ego said I was like, well, my am I worthless?
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: My shit.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm a great secondhand deck.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: I can you I can work hard.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: You go tell me what the Phillips is, I'll go get it for you.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't have a mechanical mind.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's my son works in construction, and he always teases me that I'm not handy, and I say, buddy, these are sales hands, right?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: These hands weren't meant to do heavy lifting, although I've been helping a buddy up at their cottage on the on Lake Winnipeg do a bunch of physical stuff, and I'm very thankful for that that I have a role that I have because playing sidewalk blocks and putting pergolas together eight by eight posts, that's that's not my gig.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: Not my gig at all.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: I type and talk.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: The world needs less of me.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: They need more people who can fix things right now.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: The AI out there.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's true.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: Although I will say this, I did I did a session yesterday where at the end of the session, somebody asked me about a Harvard business review study that says that sales people, like actual human beings, are in even in this age of AI, are going to be even more important going forward.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna say that this really falls into the theme about the most important job we have is as a human being.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: So whether that's a human being as a husband, as a father, as a uh a trusted advisor sales professional, these kinds of interactions, especially in the age of AI and all the BS resale out there, I think are become even more important.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I'm hoping that as we go through this, we figure out where all these things fit.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: One of the takeaways is the most fundamental lesson that we can have in all this is just be a good human.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you've noticed, I mean, Scott can see me at those on YouTube you can see me, but if you're listening, Car, I've never used my phone once and asked the A AI what should I ask Scott?
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: It because it requires me to listen and be and be present and have a conversation with him and realize that okay, the goal of this podcast is to talk about life, fatherhood, and not to use AI and cheat.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, I don't want to I don't want to derail myself because I can't.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, but isn't it even one more thing though?
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: If you ask AI what I should ask Scott, don't you think the logical answer is who the hell is Scott?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: Probably, yeah, exactly.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: Probably, yeah.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um when you were raising your kids, um as you reflect back, if you could, if you could maybe have a do-over or uh you say near your dad game that man, I was I wish I was better at filling the blank that might speak to a younger dad that we can help a younger dad.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me what comes to mind, Scott.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: Your questions are cruel and vicious.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um you're a mean man.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_03: You're a mean person.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um go to makes you feel better.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need you to no listen, I agreed to go on the show without realizing how vicious your questions were.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um a do-over.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um so maybe before I come up with a do-over, I'll have to say that I that I because of my role in sales and because of the importance that I had, uh, one thing I would don't did need a do-over on was being there for my kids in terms of field trips and going to their plays and all that stuff.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: So I take a lot of pride in that and judge people who don't do that.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_03: So for those of you that are listening right now who didn't make those, I might be judging you right now.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think that there's probably one thing that that uh that I probably would like to have a do-over, and maybe it just comes with as getting older, is is being more patient.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I probably wasn't a little more impatient than I would maybe have liked to have been.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_03: Not quite sure how that would have changed things.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_03: Guessing it would have, but uh um it's funny, right?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_03: Because you can teach certain principles around sales and leadership and listening and all of those things, people.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_03: But when it comes to your family and there's emotion involved, a lot of the things that you know are important tend to fly out the window when your kid is pissing you off.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I think there's a there's maybe a lesson for other handsome older salespeople that aren't handy like Scott.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um that um in the moment just give yourself a chance to take a step back and breathe and relax a little bit before you respond.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: And even to this point, like my kids at 29 and 32 still have an incredible ability to piss me off, right?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um but now they're doing it purposefully, I think, which is before they were just doing it because they were young.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: I that's probably the number number one answer we we get all the time.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: And um I like uh even though I said I've become more patient, it's still something that I'm I work on all the time.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: And even before we started recording, I talked about uh my pay I could feel it, you know.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: I and I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss you know helping getting on my son when in when dads, that's what dads do sometimes, but there's a way you do it in a way that just is like more of a um and what's been awesome, Scott, is he's been upstairs.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I said I use it as I did what I didn't take this apart earlier is I was like, I said, Bud, your mom would be so proud of us.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: Two knucklehead dudes.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get all this stuff done when she gets back, and think about how she's gonna feel when all your shit put together for college.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: One less thing she has to do, because I'm gonna get judged and you're gonna get judged.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: And we Both clues.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: I go, we got a certain amount of time left.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: Just better time management, buddy.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's I got a certain window of time to teach you time management before you go off to college or before you graduate.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: Then it's on you.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_03: So is the value of the lesson both time management, or is the value of the lesson of make your mom proud?
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: Or I mean I think you know, and I I just think like I've had to talk to my wife a lot, like moms she's brought up and there's some really funny Instagram feeds about this about they moms are so good at seeing things that us dad just don't see.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: They they read the Jesus and and they're and us dads sometimes can relax with other things that are messy in the house and they can't.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_01: They're they want to just do everything and um which is probably uh you know push and pull a little bit, but I don't know.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just trying to trying to make sure that my kids understand the power of empathy and power of you know just because you walk by the dishwasher, well mom's always gonna do it or dad's not why don't you do it?
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh don't get me started, Kate.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: Don't get me started.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I have some questions for you then.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: How old are your kids again?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh 20 and almost 18.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and a boy and a girl?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_03: Are they are they drastically different?
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um yes and no.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean they're they're funny, they're driven, they're competitive.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um one is more of a Yeah, I mean say yes and no, but they're I think they're more alike than they're different.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and our kids are I I I guess there's a lot of similarities, but they're also quite different.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: But here's the thing I think it's interesting is that our daughter, who's a theater person, there's a reason I'm gonna share share this, and I'm I'm trying to figure out what the lesson is here, and maybe with your permission, I'm gonna tell a fairly crude story, and hopefully there's a lesson in here that you can help parse out.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: I just share the story because I think it's funny.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_03: So our daughter, who's a theater person, which means they're inherently they're very in tune with the world around them, um, isn't at like our son, who is he's he's a redneck, he hunts, he fishes, he works in construction, he doesn't leave the house without giving us a hug and saying, Love you guys.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_03: So he's the warm fuzzy, the redneck is the warm fuzzy one, and the theater student is a little bit more, I'll hug you, you know, but it's not my first choice.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_03: And that here's this is an interesting story, and I'm gonna tell it because I think it's funny.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I think there's a big I'll ask the question first.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_03: Would you say that you and your son are are are good friends and buddies, and there are sometimes there's a challenge of defining the dad uh buddy friend relationship portion of it?
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: Not not yet.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're definitely friends and buddies, but I know that um there's a level of respect.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_03: So um my wife's gonna get mad at me for even telling the story, but I think it's a funny story about the dynamite that my son and I have, and how how a sweet caring kid he is.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: So when he was still living at home, and this is his old room, the SBD Growth Worldwide Headquarters is Bradley Bubba Donald's former room.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it was the last Christmas he was here before he moved out, and he gets up in the morning and he comes out of his room into the kitchen living room area, and he sees our wife, my wife and his mom, doing things Christmas morning.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_03: And he gives her a hug.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_03: Love you, mom, love you, buddy.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_03: Merry Christmas, break.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_03: And while this has happened, this great father or this great mother-son moment, he looks over at me.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_03: Now keep in mind, he's 25 years old.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_03: He looks over at me as he's having this great moment with his mom and he goes, F you, old man.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_03: And we both start laughing like crazy.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: And she's like, What is so funny about that?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_03: And we thought it was funny.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um there's again, it might not show respect, but I think um so maybe I'll be able to do it.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's relationship.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: It is relationship.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_03: My wife hates the story, but I love to tell it because I think it shows a uh a certain dynamic between the two of us.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: Again, I know he respects me, I know he comes to me for help and for advice, but I just think it's so funny.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: Great loving, hugging relationship with his mom and uh and a F you old man on Christmas.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, I I that actually now you're making me think, well, so like when we go off today, there'll be a lot of banter.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm getting at.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_03: So the banter, the the chirps.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: I can I and is chirp a is chirp a more of a Canadian northern US term?
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know I it's a hockey term.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody in Texas said to me they'd never heard the term chirp before.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I love I don't say the word chirp mainly because I don't play.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: I love, as we talked about before we recorded, like when I talked a month ago.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: Huge Kraken fan.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: Can't skate.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything about I'm but I I I watch almost every Kraken game.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely love that.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I think it's what I'm reading that book.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_03: My sister who lives in Stohoma, she's a big Kraken fan.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_03: So when the jets and the Kraken play each other, the chirping starts on the phone on text.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, right.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's the best part of it, right?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you were to um, as you reflect your journey of life and your journey of fatherhood, here's another question you're gonna get mad at me about asking anyways.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: And you got you got you got you got son and daughter, and um you you meet my favorite?
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, no, never mind.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: No, you got you had to pick you had to pick three characteristics that you're you and you you're gonna speak on behalf of your wife to, but like three characteristics that that would that would describe your kids that make you most proud of the people they've become due to the parenting that you've done.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me what three characteristics come to mind.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is a good question.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's a tough one, but I'm not gonna swear at you for it.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um and is this characteristics between both of them or like three each?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um you could do how about whatever's easiest.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give I'll give you the easiest one.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: Usually I like to h say just three consistent, but if you want to split them up, that's fine too.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_03: And no particular order.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um they're both good humans.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_03: If they're they're they're good people, right?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't ever have to worry about them doing things um that would disappoint us in terms of just caring about their friends, caring about other people.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um I know it's a really generic one, but they're they're good they're good humans.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um they both work hard.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I think, you know, kids nowadays, right or wrong, they get a bit of a bad rap for for working hard, and they both they both have worked very hard for their respective professions.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: And the third one that comes to mind for me is that they're both crazy rel they're crazy like they're loyal to their friends.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_03: They've got a good group of friends.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um and this is an interesting caveat to some extent.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um but my son in particular has friends that he's had since he was like six and seven years old.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_03: The same group of kids.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um and it's one of those things where, you know, I love the fact that they're loyal to their friends, I love the fact that they're inherently good people, and I love the fact that they that they work hard.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I think those are the the fourth one, I'm gonna throw a bonus fourth one in.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um is that they're both really funny.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and I'm gonna say that they take that from from me because of the two of us, between my wife and I'm way funnier than she is.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think she can hear me.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I think those are the three, and the bonus fourth one that I would go with.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: I love those.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: I think those are those are things you don't teach, those are things you see.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um so shout out to you and your wife.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_01: They they saw those things, which is in they it's I think those are skills that I mean you can be you can teach them, but I think they're they're learned a lot better than by the um actions that mom and dad did.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:28
  unknown: Yeah.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's really important, right?
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: Actions.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: How can tell us about um your your your your your company?
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: How can people learn more about you?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: How can they find you if they if our conversations intrigue them?
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: And this guy guy's a funny guy.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: I want to learn more about him.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: How do we make it easy for him?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, he's handsome, he has wisdom, and he's funny.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: So come on, Casey, don't don't shortchange me here.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_02: My apologies.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um thank you for that.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um so the best way is to find me on on LinkedIn where I'm gonna make the post that you suggested about your own grandpa lessons around crib.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um so LinkedIn is probably the best place to find uh Scott Donald SBD Growth.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then quickly, if if a company was, if there's a CEO listening, it's like, well, what is SBD growth?
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: What would you say?
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: How do you help companies?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_03: I think the best way I can describe what I do is um this is a new sort of uh description I'm coming up with, but you know organizations all want to sell more and they want to sell more in less time with higher margins.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_03: And there are people who just there's sales trainers, there's fractional salespeople, there's sales coaches, and I do all those things.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_03: But I love I love this new term that I'm playing around with, which is a sales guide, right?
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um someone that you turn to when um you know that you can so maybe you're having trouble with your golf game.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know how to golf.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: You're you're maybe you're a three-handicap, but you're like, you know what, I'm having trouble with my uh my little bump and runs off the green.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: I usually use a seven or an eight iron to bump it up, and I'm just not getting the right.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_03: So you say, I I need help with this part of my game.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh or you're going through some kind of a transition and and you're in some some change, there's things that you're uncertain about.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_03: So I love this idea about being a sales guide, right?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_03: And this notion of if an organization is going through some changes, wants to get some things straightened away, wants to improve their results, wants to make this golf game, this fishing trip more uh more effective and efficient.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'll bring in a sales guide that can lift up the hood, take a look, and make some recommendations and work alongside you to help you get to a better spot.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then kind of, lack of a better word, consult or guide your way out of a out of an engagement because now you've given them the capability and the confidence and the confidence to do it themselves.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: Love it, man.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we will make sure that's tagged in the show notes, everybody.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I love connecting with other sales guides, coaches, nerds, nerds?
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_02: You said nerds earlier, nerds, whatever.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Sales nerds.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um there's thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of companies in the world, and there's only one of us, and so I'd rather make friends with other people that do similar work because whether it's Matt Ferguson's shout out to Chris Maider if you're listening.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because if if if once I get full, I'm a one-man band, and I want to be able to find other people I love, connect, and and trust.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's I'm grateful that I've got a chance to um learn more about you and just how you think.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you know, I've got a um a lot of wisdom that not only as a dad, but also as a sales executive too, make sure it's easy to find you.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um if you were to uh summarize what we've talked about, which has been shenanigans, chirping, laughing, but also some wisdom in there too, that a dad can take from a conversation.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_01: And there was like three key themes that he could up to say.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna choose to be A, B, and C, to be a better leader, better husband, better father, better leader of his home.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me what comes to mind.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: You're doing it again, Casey.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_02: What'd I do?
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_02: We asked tough questions.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_02: So okay, um, three key things.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um be present, be patient, and be persistent.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can run with that if you want to.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_03: That wasn't intentional, that just sort of happened.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_03: Patient, present, patient, and persistent.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: Good stuff.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: Goddess now, time to go into the lightning round where I show you the negative hits of taking too many hits in college, not bong hits, but football hits.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: Your your job is to answer these questions as quickly as you can, and my hope is to get a giggle out of you.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_03: I giggled while I breathe, so it won't be too hard, but let's do this.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm excited.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, first part of this has been really, really hard and gut-wrenching.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: So hopefully this is a little easier for me now.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh true or false, uh, you played for the uh Canadian national hockey team this past year.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: False.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: False.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: True or false, you taught Wayne Gretzky how to skate.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: False.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh true or false, your favorite movie is um Strange Brew.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_02: Good movie, but false.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: One of the best movies of all time, I think.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_01: Take off, eh?
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: Shake off, you hoser.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um I actually hold on.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_03: I have a picture.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_03: Look at this.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_03: This is me and a buddy of mine a million years ago.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: Bob and Doug Mackenzie.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: 24 El Snorre beers.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: There she is.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: For the younger dads, if you don't know what Strange Brew is, it is a funnyly, amazingly atrocious movie, but but so much.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite scenes is when he's on the god hooked up the electro things.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, turn it up, eh?
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like pirate septal.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I just want to add that all Canadians aren't like that, but some of it's true.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, favorite uh book you've read business or fiction?
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: You pick.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know what?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's funny because I don't I don't read a lot of fiction.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't read a lot of books, but I remember a book that I read when I was younger by J.D.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_03: Salinger called Patrick and the Rye.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I've always really enjoyed that.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: I remember that book?
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_03: And then if I had to pick a favorite business book, there's a whole bunch of them, but you know, you mentioned um Matt Ferguson, and I met Matt Matt Ferguson because he did something with Mike Weinberg, and Mike Weinberg has written a couple of really great sales books.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I think new sales simplified is probably my favorite sales book of all time.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_01: What you what Scott Donald, Matt Ferguson, and Mike Weinberg have in common, you've all been guests in the Quarterback Deadcast.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's a pretty heady company.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_02: You're on the rushmore of quarterback deadcast.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh stop.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, uh, if there would be one genre of music that might surprise your clients that you listen to, what would it be?
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_03: We actually did this this morning on this uh group I was part of.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um what they're surprised about.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_03: So I love this, even though I was born in 66, I love the 70s.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_03: I actually my my song that I wake up to is Ventura Highway by America.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that song just gives me chills of so good.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_03: I love the 70s.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I love a lot of harder stuff, right?
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like Raids Against the Machine, and uh, you know, there's a band in Canada called Monster Truck out of Hamilton.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, things like Wolf Mother, uh Rival Sons, or some really, really good, and of course, all the great stuff that came out of the Seattle Grun scene, right?
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like Stone Temple Pilot.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_03: Ugh, yeah, so much good music.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: So probably the fact that I like some of the harder stuff is probably what people would be saying.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_03: But then I can go right from I can go right from Rage Against Machine to listening to like Jewel or you know, some sappy 70s uh little river band, right?
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm all over the place.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um if there was to be a book written about your life, come in the title.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh see again I'm trying to keep this clean.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, don't.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_02: We can put the little Enix to it.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_03: Before we had lunch, before or while I was having lunch, I'm a bit of a shit disturber with my wife, and we've been married for 36 years.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I've always joked with people that if they were watching a reality TV show um and just listening in, they would think that my my my actual name was fuck you're an idiot.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know if that makes a great a great a great uh book title.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great book.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_03: No, let's go with it.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_03: Or it could it but the other one could be, well, at least he tried.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_03: How about he meant wait, he meant well.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, all three are good.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you're gonna have three books about you, but we'll just we'll pick whatever whatever one you go with.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now, Scott, this book is sold out of the every airport in Canada.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Every airport in Port Africa.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_01: I can't get it on Amazon anymore.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: Barnes Noble said we just did the line's too long.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: So Netflix is knocked on your door, you're they're making a movie out of your story, and you are now the casting director.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: What Hollywood star is gonna star you in this big thing show?
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_03: Casey, why do you do this?
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like you're playing right into my I I'm gonna say something ridiculous, and people will take me seriously because they don't know me.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_03: But if it's not Brad Pitt or Matt Damon, it might be um who would play Squad?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: Richard Pryor?
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_03: Or uh Richard Pryor or uh uh I'm thinking again, maybe Eugene Levy, maybe uh uh isn't he a Canadian?
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Eugene Levy is Canadian, but it could also be the either the two guys, Rick Moranis or uh Dave Thomas.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_03: Dave Stewart, Dave Thomas, one of those guys.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know what?
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking about there's someone that's gonna come to mind, but it's not coming to me.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_03: No, not Pee Wee Herman.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um rest in peace.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_03: Do you do you have any do you have any acting um shops, Casey?
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'd be actually honored and flattered if you played the role of Scott.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: I've always wanted to be an actor.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: I think I I joke I have a buddy who's uh like a pretty high-up uh you never know, but he's a pretty high-up movie producer.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um he did Meet the Falkers 2.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um and uh I've I'm like, bro, I just saw him this summer on this island we go to.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, let me be the next Bill Ferrell.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: Just no one's giving me the chance.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm ready to be unleashed.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_03: Ben Ben Stiller, right?
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_03: Ryan Reynolds.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, I've I've got it.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_03: This person is super funny, like me.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, surprisingly handsome, like me.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh and I'm not laughing at you, Ma.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay, fair enough.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_03: The person who should play me in my movie is gonna be Ryan Gosling.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, there we go.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because I think he's funny, and I think he's also a good actor, and he I think he's just handsome enough to pull it off.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_01: The bar set high, as we know.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and then the last, joking aside, the most important question, tell me two words that would describe your lovely bride.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um patient.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: He's patient and she's supportive.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: Lightning round's complete.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_01: We laughed a ton.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: We giggled, we had fun, we we talked about life, fatherhood, marriage, business, cribbage, hockey, chirping, and more.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody, thank you for uh listening.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: Scott, thanks for spending time with me on.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm grateful for it.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me on.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_03: I was honored and flattered to be here.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's it's been fun.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I hope that if this episode touches somebody else at home, uh share it with a friend.
• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this this podcast is self-generated.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_01: I've been doing this now for this last seven years, everybody.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, every keep keep plugging along, keep doing episodes on the way to a thousand.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: And if there's another dad you think, no, we gotta talk to that dad, send them send them my way.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_01: But Scott, I appreciate you.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, our past will for us to meet in person one day.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be a blast to meet you.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: That would be awesome.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: But enjoy the rest of the week, and I look forward to connecting again soon.
• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:57
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:25
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• 1:03:28
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_01: See you everybody.