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ROR 148: The Fires at Red Onion · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: I'm going take you back to read on you. As
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  Speaker 1: everybody knows, or at least a long time listeners, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I spent about twenty three years give or take at
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  Speaker 1: red Onion. To the best of my knowledge, I was
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  Speaker 1: there longer than anybody as far as sheer amount of
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  Speaker 1: time goes. But thankfully, you know, God provided the miracle
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  Speaker 1: in my life and I'm now at a level four
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  Speaker 1: and keen mount hopefully working my way towards the level three.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the thing about red Onion. Red Onion
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  Speaker 1: is still sadly red Onion now. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: most of my listeners have been paying attention to the
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  Speaker 1: news or what's going on up there, but supposedly it
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  Speaker 1: got better for a little bit near the end of
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  Speaker 1: my state, but now it's just reverted back to just
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  Speaker 1: being the normal red Onion operation, so much so that
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  Speaker 1: guys are literally setting themselves on fire just to get
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  Speaker 1: off of there, just to get transferred for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks to VCU, which is like three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: forty miles away on the eastern seaboard in Richmond, Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: which the capital. Now, from what I've been told from
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  Speaker 1: someone who was there that just got transferred up here,
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  Speaker 1: you can go check his stuff out if you want.
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  Speaker 1: He's all over the internet. Now. His name is Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Rashid Johnson. Rashid is spelled r A s h I D. Now.
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  Speaker 1: He was there. So what he told me was this
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  Speaker 1: that they covered their legs in Greece, which the brand
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  Speaker 1: they use is African Crown Hair grease, and as anybody knows,
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  Speaker 1: grease burns, they popped the socket, started the small little
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  Speaker 1: fire on some toilet paper and they set their pants
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  Speaker 1: legs covered in grease on fire and they got You know,
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  Speaker 1: there was as the last count that I heard, there
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  Speaker 1: was twelve guys who've done I'm not one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: show on that number, so don't quote me on that.
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  Speaker 1: That's just simply what I'm here. I know I actually
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  Speaker 1: know one of the guys who've done him, e Kong Yeshite,
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  Speaker 1: they call him Mayhem. I talked about him before because
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  Speaker 1: he was in the pod with me at Wallace Ridge
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  Speaker 1: when he supposedly got the fighting with Charlie Bean in
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  Speaker 1: the pod, and it was one of the most assn
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous ass fights I've ever seen. Literally, not a single
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  Speaker 1: punch landed. They was. It was just childish and teddy.
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  Speaker 1: But you know they said something, Wow, I can't believe.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was there, Like I know how bad I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to leave there, you know, I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a tough place to do, tom. I'd never once
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  Speaker 1: thought there had the fault. I'm gonna set myself on
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  Speaker 1: fire to get up off of you. And what's even
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  Speaker 1: more ridiculous than this, you know, the food up there
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  Speaker 1: is terrible. The food in these mountains are horrible. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've said it before, I'll say it again. Everyone up
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  Speaker 1: here knows that the kitchen managers are using our food
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  Speaker 1: budget to buy steaks and chicken and lobsters and all
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  Speaker 1: of this really good food, and they're turning around and
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  Speaker 1: instead of giving it to us, they're serving it or
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  Speaker 1: selling it. Excuse me, they're selling it to local restaurants
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  Speaker 1: and you know, people in the community and whatnot for
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  Speaker 1: you know, a much cheaper price than they would have
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  Speaker 1: to pay for it at the grocery stores, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're still giving us meat rock which as
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  Speaker 1: of January one, twenty twenty four, is a federal and
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  Speaker 1: a state crime. It's illegal to serve meat rocky in prison.
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  Speaker 1: But yet they still do it and nobody gives us. Then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's the obvious racism, you know, and there
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  Speaker 1: is not all of them. And that's one thing that
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  Speaker 1: does piss me off about a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: can plane up there. They say everyone up there is racist.
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  Speaker 1: Bullsh Not everyone is. Yeah, you have a significant number.
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  Speaker 1: This is true. I've heard I've heard CEOs come in
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  Speaker 1: and call black guys the N word, you know. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen them sick dogs on people when they never should have.
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  Speaker 1: Like this stuff happens at the same time. Some of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff you bring on yourselves. And I know I
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  Speaker 1: was there help some of the stuff. If I went through,
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  Speaker 1: I brought on myself. I'm the one who started to fight,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one who a taxios and so on and
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  Speaker 1: so forth. Hey, you know my thing is if you
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  Speaker 1: started on it, stand on it, wear your ass whooping
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  Speaker 1: and keep it moving and if it bothers you, when you
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  Speaker 1: get out the hole and do it all over again,
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  Speaker 1: get your vengeance. It is what it is. I'm on
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  Speaker 1: both sides of the fense and that and that's where
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't look. They don't try to
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  Speaker 1: understand both sides. Now, there's no there's no place for
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  Speaker 1: racist period, whether it's in prison or out of prison.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't believe in it. And
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  Speaker 1: you will not come around me with that bullshit. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've exposed quite a few white dudes in here. You
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  Speaker 1: come up whispering in my ear, nigger, this nigger that
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to expose you. I'm I'm going to yell
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  Speaker 1: out to the pod and they black guys. Dude got
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  Speaker 1: something he wants to call y'all. You're not gonna do
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  Speaker 1: this around me. Be a man. You know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like punction, you know, so if you bring it on yourself,
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  Speaker 1: stand on him. But this case with e Kong e Shipe, like,
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  Speaker 1: I know the dude personally. I was in the pod
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  Speaker 1: with him. I've talked to him numerous times. And while
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of him, I know what
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  Speaker 1: he's saying is correct. Like I've heard CEOs myself at
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  Speaker 1: Walling's Ridge make fun of his last name. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's pronounced shite, but they call him each shit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's disrespectful. He is a Muslim.
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  Speaker 1: They disrespect that. Like I've seen this with my own
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  Speaker 1: two eyes. I've heard it with my own two ears.
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  Speaker 1: The little bastard will go like he's not scared, like
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  Speaker 1: he will fight anyone anytime. He's not a very good fighter.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that, you know, he has no business fighting,
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  Speaker 1: but he will do it. He's got the heart and
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  Speaker 1: the balls to do it. I can respect that. But
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  Speaker 1: to sit there and simply pick on this man because Walten,
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  Speaker 1: he's a really short guy, Like he makes me seem tall,
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  Speaker 1: Like this dude is like five foot four he you know,
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  Speaker 1: he just how bad? How much stuff have they put
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  Speaker 1: this boy through that he felt he had to set
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  Speaker 1: himself on fire just so he could get transferred out
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  Speaker 1: of bread Onion and send to VCU and Richmond for
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  Speaker 1: a week or two. Like that blows my mind. You
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  Speaker 1: know I was up there, Yeah, I was treated bad.
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  Speaker 1: I had to deal with a lot of stuff up there.
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  Speaker 1: But It never got so bad that I thought about
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  Speaker 1: setting myself on fire. I've thought about stabbing CEOs, I
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  Speaker 1: thought about killing people. I thought about help killing myself.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about escaping, like I had those types of
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  Speaker 1: day dreams and fantasies, the thought of setting myself on
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  Speaker 1: fire just to get out of there for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks, knowing that you're going to get sent right back.
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  Speaker 1: What did they put him through? And it's not just
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  Speaker 1: one person, supposedly, there's twelve guys that did this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And you had the thing when when the media story
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  Speaker 1: first broke, which it was broke by Phil wi Lato,
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  Speaker 1: the uh, the editor of the Virginia The Defender, The
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Defender, I think something like that. It's a newspaper.
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  Speaker 1: He reached out to the warden up there, Uh, David Anderson.
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  Speaker 1: And Anderson just lied. No, no, no, nobody set themselves
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  Speaker 1: on fire. So he contacted the guy that you know,
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  Speaker 1: was the whistleblower. And it's like he said, it didn't
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  Speaker 1: happen to do it, Like come on, man, you're really
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  Speaker 1: gonna believe him, Like you've been dealing with me for
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  Speaker 1: a while now. When have I ever lied to you
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  Speaker 1: whenef I ever stirred you in the wrong direction, when
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  Speaker 1: if I ever exaggerated anything, it was like, okay, never
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  Speaker 1: And he said, dig, just keep pushing, just put the
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  Speaker 1: story out there. So Phil Laido he took a shot
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  Speaker 1: and he published a story. He contacted Dramas, He actually
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  Speaker 1: talked to Drama on the phone himself. He contacted e.
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  Speaker 1: Shite's mother and talked to her, you know, and eventually,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they started to get a little bit of proof.
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  Speaker 1: VCU told him, yeah, you know, we actually have been
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  Speaker 1: receiving quite a few people from red Onion with severe
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  Speaker 1: burns on their legs, though we can't give you any
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  Speaker 1: names due to patient confidentiality. And then you had Director
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  Speaker 1: Dodson of the Virginia Department of Corrections. Originally he came
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  Speaker 1: out saying no, this never happened. Then when they showed
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  Speaker 1: him proof that it did happen, he changed it up
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  Speaker 1: and said, oh, well, they they was messing around with
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  Speaker 1: the sockets and they got a couple of electrical burns.
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  Speaker 1: But it's no big deal. There's there was no self emulation.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody set themselves on fire. You know. He got called
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  Speaker 1: in that lot because the truth came out and it's
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  Speaker 1: been covered by multiple multiple media outlets here in the
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  Speaker 1: US and some abroad. So you got the director of
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  Speaker 1: d DOC and Ward is completely called lying. And then
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  Speaker 1: there was a delegate from Richmond. Uh I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: his name off the top of my head, but people
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  Speaker 1: in the news media and in you know the communities
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  Speaker 1: and and everything, and you know prison watch groups and
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  Speaker 1: advocacy groups and whatnot, like they contacted and they just
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  Speaker 1: pushed and pushed and pushed until he himself went up
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  Speaker 1: there to see and you know, he talked. He was
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  Speaker 1: able to go up there and talk to several inmates.
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  Speaker 1: He talked to eat shite, he talked to trauma, he
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  Speaker 1: talked to several other guys, and you know, they sit
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  Speaker 1: there and told him the truth. They showed him their legs,
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  Speaker 1: they showed him where they set themselves on fire, and
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  Speaker 1: they told them why they did it. You know, the abuse,
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  Speaker 1: the racism, the poor food, no getting wreck, you can't
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  Speaker 1: contact your families, you know, all of these different things
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  Speaker 1: to why they did what they did. And I found
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  Speaker 1: it interesting because I read the interview that this delegate wrote,
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  Speaker 1: and he said that even while he was up there,
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  Speaker 1: they had the canines, and the canine officer was letting
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  Speaker 1: the dog, the German shepherd or whatever the kind of
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  Speaker 1: dog it is, I can't remember. It's like a Belgian
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  Speaker 1: malamut or something along those lines on But like he said,
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  Speaker 1: he was just lunching and barking and growling at the
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  Speaker 1: end of his least the whole time, and like the
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  Speaker 1: canine officer was just letting him do it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which is normal occurrence for us. They always do that,
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  Speaker 1: even though the law changed in July first of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four to saying they're not supposed to be on
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  Speaker 1: the compounds unless there is a severe fight where somebody
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  Speaker 1: might lose their life, and then they have to call
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  Speaker 1: it into the warden, and then the warden has to
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  Speaker 1: approve for the dogs to come on, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not the way they've been doing it. They're still
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  Speaker 1: on a compound. They still walking behind you to chiw
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  Speaker 1: and you know, all this other stuff, letting them jump
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  Speaker 1: at you, letting them growl at you, you know, and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Like I found it interesting that finally a delegate actually
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  Speaker 1: sees what I have been saying and what several other
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  Speaker 1: people have been saying about Red Onion and Walling's Ridge.
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  Speaker 1: We've finally been vindicated, We've finally been proven right, like
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  Speaker 1: this guy has seen it for himself. One of the
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  Speaker 1: leaders that have been elected in Virginia finally came out
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  Speaker 1: and said, look, something has to be done, like we
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  Speaker 1: we cannot continue to go in the direction that we
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  Speaker 1: are going in. But are they going to change? To
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you, unless the Virginia public gets behind
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  Speaker 1: these delegates and they start demanding change and reform in prison.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you have to give us everything we want.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you have to shut down Red on
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  Speaker 1: you the Wall's Ridge, though, I wouldn't be upset to
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  Speaker 1: see it get shut down, but that's pretty far affection.
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  Speaker 1: It's nine times out of ten it did ain't have
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  Speaker 1: the hell, I think a hundred times out of ten,
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. They spend too much money
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  Speaker 1: in those prisons to just simply shut them down. But
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  Speaker 1: they have to change, like there needs to be a
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  Speaker 1: culture change at the head of doc. There needs to
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  Speaker 1: be a culture changed in the staffing of these prisons
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  Speaker 1: and the way they do things. Because at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, if you want to know how to
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  Speaker 1: run a prison. You don't ask the person with the
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  Speaker 1: criminal justice degree. You ask the prisoner who's been doing
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  Speaker 1: it for thirty some years, whether it's me or someone else.
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  Speaker 1: If they would come to me and sit down and
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  Speaker 1: talk to me for two hours, I could give them
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  Speaker 1: a feasible blueprint that would actually save them millions of
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  Speaker 1: dollars every year. But would hell on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: they would actually make money off of us. We would
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  Speaker 1: be working for the community. We could be self sufficient
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  Speaker 1: in here. That way, Virginia taxpayers money could go towards
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  Speaker 1: education and infrastructure, like fixing the roads and so on
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  Speaker 1: and so forth. We're pairing bridges and whatnot while we
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  Speaker 1: pay for our own. But they don't want to listen
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  Speaker 1: to me. They don't want to listen to no prisoner.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're just stupid, some bitches who can't think
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  Speaker 1: our way out of a web paper bag. According to them,
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  Speaker 1: guys are literally setting themselves on fire. And at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, I seriously doubt if it changes
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  Speaker 1: anything because people just don't give a about us and
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  Speaker 1: they don't care. Oh, there's some there's some that cares
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  Speaker 1: about the individual. I've got people who care about me
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  Speaker 1: but are they willing to riley? Are they willing to
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  Speaker 1: write petitions? Are they willing to write emails letters? Are
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  Speaker 1: they willing to calm tech their senators and congressmen, their
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  Speaker 1: delegates and legislators and actually demand changed. Look, if you
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  Speaker 1: want me to vote for you, this is what you
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  Speaker 1: have to do. Otherwise somebody else is getting my vote.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be nice if that reality came true. Or excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: I said that backwards. It would be nice if that
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  Speaker 1: fantasy became reality. You have one minute remaining. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of hope. If you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 1: do something. It doesn't have to be a lot. You
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  Speaker 1: can just simply write a quick sentence. Look, we demand
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  Speaker 1: prison reform. If you want our votes, if you want
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  Speaker 1: us to support you, then this is what you need
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  Speaker 1: to do, and send it. Email it. Every last, every
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