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S02Ep15 - How Strictly Anonymous Changed the Conversation About Sex | Kathy Kay · The Bull Brotherhood

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Well, this is the thing, my guy that I bang now.
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Okay. I've been a, I'm a single mom. I have a
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10 year old and like my life is my kid right
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now. And I will go back to dating, you know,
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when he's a little bit older, it doesn't need
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me anymore. But in the meantime, I've always
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had somebody servicing me. Right. So I do have
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a booty call guy. Right. And he copped to me,
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which was so fucking crazy. Cause I realized
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somewhere along the line doing my show that,
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Oh, I might be a cut queen because this guy wants
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to send me a video of him, like fucking somebody
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else. And he was like, Oh, this room, but he
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was sending it to me because it reminded. And
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it reminded him of me and he was pretending it
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was me. But me seeing him fuck someone else was
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like really turned me on. I'm like, oh, I'm a
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cuck queen and I got that. But I never thought
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I would be interested in banging guys for my
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Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood podcast, where
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we talk power, pleasure, and the art of dominance
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in ethical non -monogamy. This is not your average
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If you're here, you're not just curious. You're
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ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives,
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stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.
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Let's go. What's good, y 'all? What's good? It's
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your boy, Socrates in the house. I miss Brian
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already. Yeah, I am not. Listen, I am not the
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introduction extraordinaire. That is Brian Morgan.
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I am Socrates, the philosophical guy that will
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think too much in his head about it. So, welcome
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to another episode of the Bull Brotherhood podcast.
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As Unk says, this is a special one, but I want
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to give a little personal testimony, y 'all,
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and a touch of what this means to me. So, when
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I started my lifestyle journey, I started with
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four podcasts. I started with the Keys and Inklings
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podcast. What's up, my boy Michael? Michael C.
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Check him out. I started with the We Got a Thing
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podcast. I don't think they're podcasting anymore.
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What's up, y 'all, if you're listening? And I
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did the Stack Stable podcast, and I did Strictly
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Anonymous Confessions. And guess who we got on
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the show, y 'all? Kathy K. What's up, Kathy?
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How you doing, girl? I think you're great at
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introing. I don't know how Brian typically does
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it, but you're doing a good job as far as I'm
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concerned. I got to give him shit, Kathy, because
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he didn't even introduce me and say that I'm
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here with you. She's so loud and proud. I ain't
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got to introduce shit. Well, Brian, Brian, he
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always makes me feel special. So, Kathy, we're
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so excited to bring you on. You were one of the
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people that I listened to. We talked about it.
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I was listening to you from Jump. And, you know,
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we always like to get into the origin stories.
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We know you have a new book that you're really
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excited about sharing. We'll get into that. But,
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like, I'm a curious guy. I use the Socratic method
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of questioning. You know, I love it. And my first
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question to you is, what got you motivated or
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inspired to do your podcast? I kind of like this
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question because I think my story is kind of
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interesting because it's like. It's kind of like,
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it was very unintentional. I have to say like
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I, and I started podcasting a long time ago,
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like when I, and lucky me, right. Because there
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weren't many podcasts when I started. So it was
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easy for me to build an audience back then. Right.
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Because nobody had podcasts. We're talking like
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11, 12 years ago when typically there was a lot
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of comedians, right. They were like doing podcasts
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back then. And I had a lot of comedian friends
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because I worked in entertainment and I worked
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with comedians and they were always like, Oh,
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Kathy, you should start a podcast. Cause I love
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to like, I'm like you Socrates. very curious
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and if I if you sat across from me I would at
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a party I would do to you what I do to all my
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guests on my show which is like pick apart your
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life ask you a million questions you tell me
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one thing and I want to know 10 more things and
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I'm just not in the lifestyle yeah can't you
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can't turn me on like that woman come on now
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you're not in the lifestyle don't talk to me
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like that don't talk to me like that turn me
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on you're talking dirty oh my god I think that's
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a part of my I think that's a part of my charm
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on my show because I'm not in the lifestyle.
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And so when I did start out, my friends would
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be like, oh, you should start your own show because
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I wanted to. Maybe you find this too, Socrates.
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When you are the kind of person that's super
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curious and always want to. I don't do little
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talk or what the fuck is that? Plain talk. Small
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talk. Small talk, yeah. I don't even know the
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term because I'm just not interested ever. I'm
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like deep talk 24 -7. And people get fucking
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sick of that kind of stuff. to that kind of stuff
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siren yeah yeah yep oh but hey you can have him
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call kathy and ask her you guys can ask each
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other a billion questions it'll be great No,
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but that's why you guys make a good couple. Right.
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Because like, honestly, I have plenty of friends
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that don't want to fucking hear. And that's why
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I started my show, because I'm like, you know
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what? Like, I love to do this and I love to do
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that, you know, and ask people a million questions.
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But my friends are like totally sick of me trying
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to analyze their shit. So why don't I do like
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a call in advice show? So literally it was going
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to be like a Dear Abby show. Right. And I just
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wanted to talk to people about anything. I'll
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talk to someone about any kind of problem they
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have or any kind of life story is interesting
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to me. And I needed. callers to call in right
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and so i didn't the only reason why i became
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anonymous and everything was kind of by accident
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i didn't want to go on facebook at the time uh
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and look for people because i didn't want anyone
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to know what i was doing because i was like petrified
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that if i like my show would suck then everyone
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would know right so i just wanted to do it privately
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because i didn't know what was going to happen
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so i went on to craigslist and honestly the only
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reason why i went into the personals is because
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it was the only free play to post an ad so i
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posted like my ad looking for people to call
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into a podcast, a regular podcast in like every
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casual encounters, men for men, women for women,
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like all those places because it was free. And
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honestly. I got like the first five emails I
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got for real were my first five episodes. And
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they were like the craziest fucking stories from
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guys I had ever heard. And that's how and I like
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by that time, I had no name for my show. I didn't
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know that people were going to be anonymous.
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I didn't know that I was going to be anonymous.
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I didn't know my show was going to be about sex.
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But it became about this whole thing because
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I used Craigslist. It was like the gift that
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kept on giving. I had like struck gold and the
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people I would find on there and the stories.
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i would get were like fucking killer and then
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when i added in making them anonymous because
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most people were anonymous on craigslist anyway
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and created the the title of my show and then
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i got to hear all these interesting stories it
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was like that's how my show came to be that's
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dope yeah and so talk to me about the transition
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from like oh whoever to being like no i'm gonna
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focus on this part of it how did you niche down
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to that Oh, because it was only Craigslist. Once
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I got those five emails, it was like one guy,
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like I'm fucking my best friend's brother's wife
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and he's the sheriff in the town. Another guy
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was like, I can only get off when I go down on
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a woman, not through penetration. Another guy
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was a dom and another guy was this guy named
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John that was like hot wifing back then when
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hot wifing didn't even have a name. So I'm sorry
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when these... things came into me i was like
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this is the only thing i'm gonna do because this
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is like super interesting i was always someone
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that was very open about sex i talked about it
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a lot I I'm very nonjudgmental, you know? And
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so that's why it became what it was because I
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found this niche and there was so much content
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and it was such interesting stories for my curious
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brain. Like I was never going to get bored, like
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rifling through Craigslist on a daily basis.
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And that's what I had to do. I had to hustle
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for many years in the beginning to get callers,
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even just for one day a week. Now I don't have
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to do that, but I did in the beginning and I
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worked my ass off finding people. And I learned
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a lot about what was going on out there in the
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real world. Okay. Fetish. hot wifing you know
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guys that like to sniff panties cheating guy
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and guy action you you name it i found it on
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craigslist and i learned all about it it was
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like just super interesting and so i never looked
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back So not being, not being ethical, non -monogamous,
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how has it kind of, um, you know, if this is
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too personal, let me know, but how has it, how
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has it kind of, okay. Has it kind of led into
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or fed into your personal sex life? Has, do you
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think it's enhanced that in your relationships
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and stuff like that? Yeah, for sure. And like,
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listen, I always say because a lot of people
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like, you know, put down labels and shit that
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are out now. And I'm always like, oh, my God,
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I wish there were labels for when I was growing
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up because, you know, I'm a lot older than a
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lot of people. And when I was growing up, if
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you were like, you know, most girls were only
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like fucking guys if they were dating them. Like
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I fucked whoever I wanted. I'd have three guys
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I was banging at the same time. I was considered
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slutty back then and open minded because I never
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really wanted to get married. I had sex just
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for the pleasure of it. I didn't need to be in
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love to fuck around. I had some threesomes and
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stuff. like girls only but you know back then
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i might have been like oh maybe i'm polly because
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i could like you know have three guys at one
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time like maybe i would have considered myself
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you know had a real flexible because i hooked
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up a woman but we didn't have those labels so
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i just felt like oh i was like slutty and crazy
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back then but i really wasn't and you know i've
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had I'm not the type of person that's been locked
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down in relationships my whole life. So I basically
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have been non -monogamous because I do whatever
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the fuck I want. And I totally, though, because
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of my show, I would not have a monogamous relationship
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ever. That was one of the reasons why I never
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thought I could get married because I didn't
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think I could stay interested in one person for
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my whole fucking life. So, yeah, my show has
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really opened my mind to the possibilities of,
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you know, probably the best place I should be
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living, which is in the ethically non -monogamous
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world. Yeah, yeah. You know me. I love it. It
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completed my journey since I was 19 to understand
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dating and women and marriage and stuff like
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that. It was it was the cap to everything and
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it broke everything open. I love it. So we know
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you have your book. What's the name of your book,
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girl? Oh, well, it's called Strictly Anonymous.
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It's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions. And
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the tagline is secret sex lives of total strangers.
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And basically I took like, it's 17 short stories.
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I wouldn't say it's total erotica because I don't
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really, even though I'm a woman, I'm like more
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like a guy. Like I don't like a lot of adjectives
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and I don't really like pure erotica kind of
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stuff. It's like, it's like I took stories from
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my show, 17 different topics that I talk about,
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like girls that are into gang things. I have
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a hot wife girl on there. you know a fetish story
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I have a gilf porn star I have a milf who has
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threesomes and gangbangs you know I took everything
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I talk about on my show wrote them in third person
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so they're basically like 17 short hot stories
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but they're all true which I think is super interesting
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you know I mean it's not erotica book because
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these are true stories it's kind of like a penthouse
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forum stories but these are true and what I think
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is interesting is like people could read these
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stories they're very short they all have a beginning
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a middle and an end and then they could go hear
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the real people actually telling the stories.
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Like everything in the book is actually real
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and taken from the conversations I've had. And
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I think, and I'm sure you'll agree, like, because
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you're doing a podcast to get this information
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out there. What I like about my book getting
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out there is there's plenty of people that find
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my podcast, but I'm hoping other people find
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my book that don't listen to my podcast. So they
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could kind of learn what I think is the point
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of my show, which is that a lot of people in
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the vanilla world don't really believe that non
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-monogamy can work. The typical thing is, oh,
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the minute you open up your room. relationship
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it's doomed for failure and i'm here to say i've
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talked to over 1300 people and uh i want people
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to know that maybe it's not something that everyone
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should do i totally get that but i want what
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i think is important for people to know is that
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not only can it work when it does work it actually
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brings people closer together and i have tons
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of proof of that on my show so Yeah, so I think
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it's important for people to read these stories
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and know that this is what real fucking people
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do. And they're not, like, different than anybody
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else, you know? And I just think that a lot of
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people don't talk about it. So I think it's super
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interesting. So that's what, you know, that's
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the book. And it's available anywhere where you
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buy books. I love it. I love it. We'll put all
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that information in a link to your book and your
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show to our show notes. Yeah, perfect. Yeah.
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Also, then you said they can go listen to the
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real stories in the book. Do you reference which
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podcast number? Yes. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. There's
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a podcast episode number for everybody. Yep.
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And then what's interesting is when I. Wait,
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I started my Patreon and I started putting pictures
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of my guests there, like, you know, anonymous
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pictures there. So you could hear the people
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and then you could go join my Patreon and then
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you could see the people, which is super interesting.
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So then they could actually go see the people.
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Because you know what? When I was doing this
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with my editor, like one of the guys that were
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editing my book, he was like, oh, I just wonder
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what these people look like. I'm like, I'll fucking
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send you pictures of what they look like. And
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he was very surprised that they were like hot
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women and gorgeous looking people and stuff.
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Because I think sometimes people don't. understand
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that like hot people do these kinds of things
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for some reason i don't know they think that
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we're like trolls under a bridge or something
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oh my goodness that pisses me off yeah i'm so
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ugly that i got 11 guys to fuck me in one night
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that doesn't even make sense That's hilarious.
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Exactly. Think about it. You're right. But isn't
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that like sometimes somehow that's like a weird
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word on the street. And I'm like, that's another
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thing I'm here to say. No, these people are fucking
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hot. If you see Candy, who's like in my episode,
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I mean, she's a fucking 10 and she's, you know,
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hot as shit. So there you go. And there's something
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for everyone to like looks wise, like what I'm
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attracted to someone else isn't like some women
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are like they want this and I want that. You
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know, it's a buffet. A buffet of deliciousness.
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As it should be. I think, unfortunately, women
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don't understand that. You know, I think we're
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just so much more insecure about stuff that most
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guys don't want. Guys, I think, are, you know,
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they like everything, right? You know what I
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mean? Most guys. Women just think you have to
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be skinny and that's it. But I think guys are
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more cool. Whatever. So anyway. I know way better
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than that. Once I got divorced and then, like,
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you know, had my first black man, then I was
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like, oh. I don't have to be a size two for you
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to like want to ravish me. Because that's what
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I had been brainwashed to believe before that.
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So I love this. Sure. So can I share with you
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a little kind of, you know, a philosophical perspective
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I have on that? And I really love what you said.
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So I think there's three categories. Now, I'm
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kind of a nerd. And I'm not big into Harry Potter,
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but I've seen every single one of them. And I
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have, there's ethical non -monogamous people,
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there's vanilla people, and then I have what's
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called muggles. And for those that don't understand.
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I love the muggles. For those that don't know,
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haven't watched any Harry Potter episodes. Muggles
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are people who are just, it's kind of like the
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way we call vanilla people, just not, not. witches
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and warlocks so if you're not a witch and a warlock
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that means you don't have any magic in your life
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and i think ethical non -monogamy is magical
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vanilla people are all the people who say and
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i don't get it it's not for me and i'm not judging
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it but it's not for me and i don't it doesn't
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i'm too jealous of for that but and it's you
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know we have both of us have friends that are
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like Well, I don't know that I have any anymore,
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but as Siren does, who says, you know, it's great.
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It's wonderful. And they love that we are philosophical
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about it and we take it seriously and we have
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protocols and we have barriers and protection.
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Yeah. All of that. They love that. But they're
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like, not for me. Thanks. Good. And trust me,
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Siren is a recruiter. You mess around with her
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for a while. She will start getting to try to
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not recruit you, but talk about the. the greatness
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but muggles i would say i'm an educator versus
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yeah you're right you're right you're right because
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i have one friend that i've been talking to her
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about it since i got into it because i've had
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been friends with her for like 25 years and she
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always checks in once in a while you still into
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that you know like you're still enjoying it you
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know what are you liking about it right now you
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know um and then i said something to her to the
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effect where oh you could just come to this party
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you could just watch and she said wait a second
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i can just go and watch And now she wants to
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go to a party with me. You know what I mean?
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Because she's like, oh, I just love watching
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people. So I'm like, oh, all right. And so the
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muggles are people who are judgmental. They are
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fearful. They're assholes. They assume like the
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one you were talking about. Oh, you're a bunch.
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I've heard that. It's just a bunch of, you know,
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sixes and below. And I'm like, or what's really
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pissing me off. And y 'all check out the episode.
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No Diddy. Is that people associating what Diddy
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did. P Diddy. with lifestyle because i'm telling
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you right now he only had i know it's terrible
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he only had one lifestyle bull and a lot of crap
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he was doing is not lifestyle so those are muggles
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so speaking of muggles um i'd love to hear some
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of the stuff that you get that are not like fans
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like some what are the top bullshit excuses or
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stuff that you hear that's from people that are
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hating on it Oh, you know, really? Because when
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I was on YouTube, I saw a lot more. comments
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right and i love being on youtube because i actually
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do like discussing this kind of stuff even after
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i stop talking to the people you know what i
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mean i love the conversations that come afterwards
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right i have those conversations on patreon but
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youtube was a big place to have that because
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the comment section right and one of the biggest
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things and this doesn't go so much with the muggles
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thing that you were talking about but a lot of
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times with the hot wiping scenario you know i
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got you know a lot of people have a lot of things
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wrong you know they see the guys that are into
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hot wiping like a it's not fair if the because
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the wife not fucking anybody else or it's very
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tit for tat you know people looking from the
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outside a lot of times get things wrong and that's
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why personally I talk to people for a whole hour
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okay and I get their whole life story so if you
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listen to the whole thing I think you get a full
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understanding of it yet people are still listening
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like with blinders on or something I don't know
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because a lot of times they think things are
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unfair or they think people are doomed to hell
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or this isn't going to work out long term and
20:17
and and it's like I could they couldn't be more
20:20
wrong I'm sorry I've talked to over 1300 people
20:22
So at this point, I really feel like I've done
20:25
the study. Seriously, like I've heard Dr. Drew
20:27
talk and he's like the biggest fucking asshole.
20:29
He makes comments about the non -monogamy world
20:32
as if he's ever known one person. Probably all
20:34
of his friends are swingers and he just doesn't
20:36
know it. He's kind of, I think they're jealous.
20:41
They're jealous because they just end up cheating.
20:44
He's catering to the majority. I think he's just
20:48
doing it. I think he's just, there's, so, you
20:50
know, I studied. There's too many research. There's
20:54
too much research showing that we actually have
20:56
great metrics in happiness, longevity, sex life,
21:00
all of that. Exactly. Actually, we have 10 times
21:02
more sex, but we're the same level of STIs that
21:05
the regular population is. I think it's just
21:08
a financial grab, honestly. I think it's just
21:10
playing a role. Totally, that's what I think.
21:12
I lived in Hollywood. I think it's just playing
21:14
a role. So you can share one in the book or out
21:17
of the book, but what's your favorite? Like,
21:20
do you have a like, no, this one is the one right
21:23
here or a couple? No. I usually say, what's the
21:27
first thing that pops in your head when we ask
21:28
the question? That's a better question, yeah.
21:30
Yeah, because it's impossible to choose a favorite.
21:32
Well, what's the topic? Only because it's like.
21:38
I can't even. Like, because, listen, I do so
21:41
many different things. I'm like, some people
21:43
are just lifestyle podcasts. Some people are
21:44
just hot wifing podcasts. Some people are just,
21:46
you know, fetish podcasts. I have everything
21:49
on my show. I'm not niche at all, right? I'll
21:52
talk to cheaters that aren't even in the ethically
21:56
non -monogamous world. I talk to hot wife people.
21:58
I talk to people that have gang bangs. I talk
21:59
to trans people. I talk to guys who likes to
22:01
wear, you know, pantyhose. So it's so hard to
22:05
say because. I generally am like psychotically
22:08
curious and interested in people. I could go,
22:11
anybody is interesting to me and everything is
22:14
interesting to me. So it's hard to say. I sometimes
22:16
love stories that have nothing to do with sex.
22:20
Like I had this one guy on Jamal who wanted to
22:23
come on the show and he kind of pitched it. Like,
22:24
I'll tell you all like the gay sex that's happening
22:26
in prison because he was in prison for selling
22:29
drugs. And honestly, like his episode was so
22:32
much more than just prison sex. and how and why
22:37
he wound up there, what happened to him while
22:39
he was there, the sex that he had, and then the
22:41
rehabilitation he had and how he came out of
22:43
it and how good he was doing after. That's the
22:45
kind of shit I fucking love. It's like reading
22:47
a good biography. I do love stories that read
22:49
like a book and maybe have a tragic beginning
22:53
or some sort of thing that someone overcome.
22:55
I love that. But a lot of times I'm not getting
22:57
that on my show, but I still love it because
22:59
I'm having stories where people are just talking
23:01
about how successful they are at having all this
23:03
great sex. what I'm getting so it's hard to just
23:06
pick like a best one I'm just and it's always
23:09
like I whenever I think I'm never gonna get like
23:12
a great one again I I fucking get hit with one
23:15
like I just had one taped the other day that
23:18
has not aired yet that really had me fucking
23:23
going and not in a good way in a very emotional
23:26
way like I typically I'm like I am no one's moral
23:28
police okay I'm not here to tell you what you
23:31
should do or shouldn't do right like I feel like
23:33
everyone makes those rules for themselves but
23:35
this guy had a little non -consensual thing where
23:37
he set up his wife without her knowing and brought
23:39
in a bull and all this shit that you would be
23:41
like red flags galore your whole brotherhood
23:43
would be so anti his fucking thing yeah and honestly
23:47
i was the whole story had me fucking going but
23:51
to me it's a great episode though i mean i hung
23:53
up i was like oh my god this is going to be a
23:55
good one because it's going to be so salacious
23:57
and stuff so I can't, it's really hard for me
24:00
to pick a favorite. Like, cause literally I think
24:03
I'm, I'm posting my 1365th one tomorrow. So it's
24:07
hard out of that. If I had like a hundred, maybe
24:09
it'd be easy to pick, but I've just had too many.
24:12
You just love the game. That's what I'm hearing.
24:14
You just love the game. You love this. You love
24:17
this. This is what I love to do. Yeah. Yeah.
24:19
And when you love it, you, you see beauty in
24:21
all of it. Right. And you actually answered my
24:24
second, my second question was going to be what
24:26
grinds your gears? the most and is that it like
24:29
the the stories that are violating people's consent
24:32
or something that crosses no no no what grinds
24:36
your gears no i don't like Yeah, no, I don't
24:39
like to get that emotional. I like to be impartial
24:41
on my shows and just go with people's stories.
24:43
No, like I said, I promise you and anyone that
24:47
knows me in my life knows that if I met you,
24:51
Socrates, or you, Siren, if, Siren, you were
24:53
at a barbecue that I was at and you sat next
24:55
to me, I'd say, what's your name? And you'd say,
24:57
Siren. Then I'd ask you another question and
24:58
then you'd answer and then I'd ask you. And I
25:00
would do exactly what I do to the people on my
25:02
show. This is what I do for my own interest on
25:06
a daily basis. The fact that I... figured out
25:08
how to create a show and I get to do this and
25:10
this pays my bills. And this is like now my business
25:13
and my career is like mind blowing to me because
25:16
it's literally like what I love to do. And it's
25:20
interesting to me. Like I said, I don't do small
25:22
talk. My brain needs all of these conversations
25:25
to keep interested. So I've never been more or
25:28
less bored. I'm like so fulfilled in my life.
25:31
I literally take two people a day every day,
25:33
except like Sundays and Tuesdays. So I'm just
25:36
like constantly having these. amazing conversations
25:38
with total strangers. I never have one like question
25:42
written. I don't know where the fuck it's going
25:44
to go. And I just grill them and learn their
25:46
story. And that's and I just like love it. I'm
25:49
never bored. I'm always interested. And so that's
25:52
what keeps me going because it's just like what
25:54
I love to do. Like they say that cliche thing,
25:56
like find what you just like to do naturally
25:58
and and then do it for a living. I didn't get
26:00
paid for my podcast. I didn't monetize my podcast
26:03
for the first like seven years or eight years.
26:05
I only started to monitor. it in 2020 when my
26:08
son was going back to school and I'm like okay
26:10
I'm not going to be a stay -at -home mom anymore
26:12
that was important for me to stay home with my
26:14
kid but once he went to school like now what
26:15
are we going to do you know and that's when I
26:17
decided to instead of going back to an office
26:19
to maybe try to monetize my show but I did my
26:22
show for seven eight years just because I fucking
26:25
loved it and I never missed an episode and I
26:27
continued to do it and uh it was always like
26:30
something that I enjoyed so I that's what gets
26:32
me going And honestly, I also love the back end
26:35
to it. I don't have anyone that works for me.
26:37
I have seven episodes a week. I do the editing.
26:39
I do the writing. I do the taping. I do my Patreon.
26:42
I have 2 ,500 people. I have a Discord with 6
26:44
,000 people. I'm talking to those people. I do
26:46
contests. I love every aspect of everything that
26:50
I do. So I just, you know, that's what keeps
26:52
me going. Well, I'm good for you because, man,
26:55
we own several businesses. We wouldn't survive
26:58
without my boy Julius. We would just about get
27:00
one of our assistants to help us. With this show
27:03
and hire another one, man, but big ups to you
27:06
because I couldn't do it. I hate editing. You
27:09
hear me, my boy, Julius? Yes, I like it. I like
27:12
it. I like just getting on and just talking to
27:16
people like. I'll grab people last minute all
27:19
the time. And they're just like, well, what are
27:20
we going to do? And I said, we're just going
27:22
to have a conversation. And if you think of it
27:25
any deeper than that, like you're going to stress
27:28
yourself out. You're going to get anxiety. It's
27:30
like, no, it's just a conversation between two
27:33
people. And we're just going to see where it
27:35
goes. You know? And don't you find I had a guy
27:39
on the other day and he actually hung up on me
27:41
in the middle of it. And he was like, you're
27:42
being like you were doing what I thought you
27:44
were going to do. And I thought and I was like,
27:45
you know, by far, I have not listened to the
27:49
podcast yet. I mean, like you're going to be
27:51
really blunt and bold. No, it's not even grilling.
27:55
Yeah. No, it's going to go wherever it needs
27:58
to go. And any guest that comes onto my show
28:02
and they have questions already written or bullet
28:05
notes that they think I'm going to follow or
28:07
they think it's going to go a certain way, those
28:09
are always the worst guests because they're not
28:11
just going. I'm like you. I have conversations
28:13
with someone. I feel like my show is like a blank
28:17
canvas when I get on the phone. And then what
28:19
is created at the end, I had no fucking idea
28:22
it was going to come out that way, but I'm always
28:23
happy. So there you go. And when people are trying
28:26
to control it, that's when we get a bad episode.
28:31
And that's when I get irritated. And I can always
28:33
tell those people because, like you said, they
28:35
get anxious because they don't know what's going
28:37
on. It's a control thing. They had it in their
28:39
mind. Yeah, they had it in their mind. And don't
28:42
tell you. And that's not going to make for a
28:43
good show. different people will tell you like
28:46
oh you need to start it this way and have a hook
28:49
and do this well i tried to do a format at first
28:51
it stressed me the fuck out and you know what
28:54
and the people trying to get me to do the format
28:57
i was like you know what fuck this i'm just going
28:59
to talk to people i just want to get on there
29:01
and talk and if it works it works if it doesn't
29:03
it doesn't Because I can't stand. Oh, my God.
29:05
That's what my whole show is. That's how I write
29:07
books and, like, other papers and different things
29:10
is, like, I just start writing. Like, I can't
29:12
have, like, all this too much structure. I need
29:14
more creativity and room to run. So I like that
29:18
you. Yeah, I mean, I have a goal. Yeah, you have
29:21
a goal, but. Yeah, I mean, I have a goal. That's
29:23
very different than having, like, you know, seven
29:25
steps to have a podcast. You know what I mean?
29:28
That's me. You don't. Oh, no, I can't do it.
29:31
You know. Which is funny because I love to -do
29:33
lists and I love goals and things like that.
29:36
But in this kind of space, I want to free my
29:38
mind. Like the rest of my life is very structured.
29:40
It's very calendar tied. And, you know, when
29:43
I get on the podcast, if I've had the most tiring,
29:45
exhausting day, like I just feel rejuvenated
29:48
afterwards. It's like a natural, you know, high.
29:52
So, you know, and it sounds like with your love
29:54
for all of it, you know, that's a similar thing.
29:56
Would you say you have a natural high of just
29:58
being on there? Yeah. But I also feel that when
30:02
I'm just having a conversation and I'm not asking
30:05
like, just like stock questions and then, you
30:07
know, there's an answer. And then I asked another
30:09
one that like the, the natural conversation with
30:12
these people actually allows them to get very
30:15
comfortable and relax and then reveal more, you
30:18
know what I mean? Because it is a conversation.
30:20
They don't feel like I'm backing them into a
30:22
corner, you know? And so a lot of times people
30:24
get on the call and they're like, Oh my God,
30:25
I'm so nervous. I'm like, trust me in five minutes,
30:27
you're not even going to be thinking about it
30:29
because it's so natural. And it's a conversation
30:31
and that I think relaxes people. And for me to
30:33
get people to really open up and talk, like people
30:35
are telling me their deepest, darkest secrets.
30:38
A lot of times these people are on the DL or
30:41
what they're doing. Nobody knows about, you know,
30:42
and this is the first time they're talking and
30:44
they're on a show, you know? So it's like, people
30:46
are nervous, but that's the best way I think
30:48
to get people to relax and open up and tell me,
30:51
you know, all their stuff. And that's, what's
30:53
helpful for the audience to hear people's real
30:55
stories. And that's what they're hearing on my
30:57
show. Nobody holds back anything. There's no
30:59
reason to. Nobody knows who they are. I change
31:00
everybody's voices. I change everybody's names.
31:03
I don't ask them where they live or what they
31:05
do for a living. I tell people, send me a fake
31:07
email. I don't give a shit who you are. I don't
31:09
even care who they really are. I just like the
31:11
story, you know? Exactly. I love that. That's
31:15
it. Yeah. What was your next one? And I got great
31:18
stories. Yeah, you do. You do. Hey, wait, wait,
31:22
wait. I want to hear a story from your personal
31:24
sex life. You want to share something? We won't
31:28
tell nobody who it is. Just Kathy Kaye with strictly
31:30
anonymous confessions. Yeah, we'll cut that part
31:33
out. I mean, you got, I, it's like, I don't know
31:36
what story to tell. I did do, I, for my 500th
31:39
episode, I was like, oh, what should I do? And,
31:41
you know, because my audience, because I wound
31:43
up becoming anonymous and then I would put some
31:45
like halfway sort of videos of myself on, on
31:49
YouTube and on my website, people started to
31:51
be more interested in who I am and what I am.
31:53
And my show is about other people. So I rarely
31:55
talk about myself. And I typically, I'm only
31:58
going on other people's podcasts right now because
32:00
of my book, but I never went on anyone's podcast
32:02
at all. even for to grow my show I just never
32:04
did because what am I going to talk about But
32:06
I did do my 500th episode. I told them my whole
32:10
life story. You know, when there was like some
32:11
threesome stories, I don't know, like, what would
32:13
you be interested in hearing? I don't even know
32:15
when it comes to my sex life. I don't know. But
32:18
I did do an episode where I did talk about, you
32:21
know, all about me and my audience, like loved
32:23
it. Because like I said, I don't typically talk
32:26
about myself at all on my show. It's really a
32:27
focus on my guests. Well, what kind of what is
32:30
a story that really like you left that experience
32:34
feeling free? oh because my podcast freedom is
32:41
all about sexual freedom so what is an experience
32:44
that you left and you just were like the whole
32:49
thing was just freeing exhilarating whatever
32:52
other descriptors you want to use I mean, all
32:56
of them. I was never, I have to say, like, I
32:58
was never. Now stop it, Kathy. There's so many
33:00
people that are like, oh, all of them. I like
33:01
all the food. No, no, no. It's not about all
33:04
of them. I'm not going to let you get away with
33:06
that. I will. No, no, but you have to hear what
33:09
I'm leading with. Okay, first of all, I was,
33:11
I was. a type of woman that couldn't wait to
33:15
fuck. And from the minute I realized I had a
33:18
clit, like I was so curious. I wanted to have
33:21
sex when I was 15. I fucked guys. I was the first
33:24
one to tell my boyfriend I wanted anal when I
33:26
was 16. Like I never like had any kind of issues
33:29
being in touch with my sexuality. I never had
33:31
a problem with orgasm. I orgasmed every time
33:33
I knew how to tell a guy what the fuck to do.
33:35
I was great at sex from day one. I never was
33:38
like repressed. I never felt shame about anything.
33:43
I didn't have that kind of awakening. I will
33:46
say that I got, I did get sober. Like there was
33:49
a time and a part of my quitting drinking when
33:51
I was 34 was because I was just like waking up
33:54
next to people like, who the fuck are you? And
33:56
why the fuck did I fuck you? And I wasn't even
33:57
enjoying sex. always liked it and it was so important
34:02
to me that was like one of the reasons why i
34:04
quit and my numbers went very way down after
34:06
i got sober but sex only became great and better
34:10
when i did so you know sex was always great for
34:13
me i it was to me it was like one of the pleasures
34:15
in life and i got as much as i can like i said
34:17
i was never looking to get married or locked
34:19
down i always had booty calls i always got what
34:22
i wanted all the time i was never without it
34:25
i always felt it was important so i don't have
34:28
that one freeing moment you know when that will
34:30
come honestly siren in my future when I go to
34:33
like my first swingers club or when I have my
34:35
first threesome with two guys like stuff that
34:37
I haven't done yet you know what okay so what
34:39
are your top five things that are on your bucket
34:42
list then because we can definitely make them
34:44
happen for you Kathy like really fast you give
34:48
me a location and I will have excellent excellent
34:51
bulls to you stat Well, this is the thing. My
34:56
guy that I bang now. OK, I bet I'm a single mom.
34:59
I have a 10 year old and like my life is my kid
35:01
right now. And I will go back to dating, you
35:03
know, when he's a little bit older, doesn't need
35:04
me anymore. But in the meantime, I've always
35:06
had somebody servicing me. Right. So I do have
35:08
a booty call guy. Right. And he talked to me,
35:10
which was so fucking crazy because I realized
35:13
somewhere along the line doing my show that,
35:15
oh, I might be a cut queen because this guy wants
35:18
to send me a video of him like fucking somebody
35:20
else. And he was like, oh, that's true. But he
35:21
was sending it to me because it reminded. It
35:25
reminded him of me and he was pretending it was
35:27
me. But me seeing him fuck someone else was like
35:29
really turned me on. I'm like, oh, I'm a cuck
35:31
queen and I got that. But I never thought I would
35:34
be interested in banging guys for my guy. Right.
35:36
But after talking on my show and all these people,
35:39
I was like, I would do that for a guy. And I
35:40
just like threw that out to this guy that I've
35:43
been banging for like 10 years, who is actually
35:45
like one of my best friends. So we know each
35:46
other really well. He never told me he was interested
35:48
in anything like that. But I said to him one
35:51
day, oh, yeah, you know, because of my show.
35:53
What I do, like if I had a guy that I date next
35:55
and he's like, oh, he wants me to hotline for
35:57
him something, I would do it. Like, why not?
35:59
You know, and literally like two weeks later,
36:01
he sends me another video and he was like, I
36:03
would like you to do that for me, too. And I'm
36:05
like, what do you mean? And it turns out he was
36:08
like, I'd like you to fuck another guy for me.
36:10
And honestly, Siren, like I never realized that
36:14
I had that kink. The minute he said it to me,
36:16
the thought of like having sex with one guy and
36:18
then having him come over and fuck it like was
36:20
like the hottest thing on the. fucking plan it
36:23
to me i tried to make it happen i was like on
36:25
it emailing all my ex booty call guys trying
36:28
to have them come over just so it but so it has
36:31
has it happened or no it hasn't no it hasn't
36:34
no no okay well i'm gonna text you afterwards
36:37
i can't find a guy oh no i got him i got him
36:39
girl i'm gonna text you afterwards no no no they
36:42
are hooked you will thank me believe me i am
36:45
like the hookup queen with this babe Yeah, we're
36:49
literally actually creating services and thinking
36:52
about doing it professionally. She's amazing.
36:54
Yeah, but no, me and my girls, we know someone
36:57
in every area of the country, and they are all
37:00
guys that we have experienced. We're not pulling
37:02
some guy out of the gutter. Like, these are quality
37:05
bulls that know what the fuck they're doing.
37:08
And know how to respect your dynamic and everything.
37:10
And can take you through that experience from
37:12
start to finish, and you will be blown away.
37:15
So, I'm going to text you afterwards. Okay, but
37:19
it's not going to go anywhere because I have
37:20
to say like when I talk about it for myself,
37:23
okay, just because of the way that I'm wired,
37:25
I'm always like, oh, if I were to do it, I'd
37:27
go to like an old time booty call guy or somebody
37:30
that I already know because that's like was always
37:33
like the best sex for me. I'm not one that like
37:35
some guy I just meet is going to like come off
37:38
the street and I'm just going to fuck him. There
37:39
was a guy in my gym. He just looked like Jason
37:42
Momoa and I was like, oh my God, he was so hot.
37:44
He was like 25 and he was like the guy who took
37:46
my thing when I went in the gym and I was like
37:47
in a... rile him in because i know him but i
37:50
don't know that i could just like fuck a stranger
37:52
that's a problem if they listen if it if i was
37:54
going to take you up with the offer i could find
37:55
a guy tomorrow i live in new york city it's not
37:57
like a shortage of dudes that would just come
37:59
over and if i offered that up you know they wouldn't
38:02
do it they wouldn't be experienced like the right
38:04
situation yeah i know you're right i got it i
38:07
got it i'll i'll reach out to you when i'm ready
38:09
sounds good I'll respect that. What was interesting
38:14
was how turned on I got by it when I never knew
38:17
that. And that's like, I think, super interesting.
38:19
Right. It just goes to show that you never know.
38:23
And it's not like sex is like something that
38:25
you like, like one thing. And that's how you
38:27
are always like things could change. Right. And
38:29
so who knew? And now I know. And so that was
38:31
like interesting. That's on my list. Doing two
38:34
guys was always like something I'd mock up with
38:36
toys and stuff. But I would be like, oh, I would
38:38
never do in real life. But I totally would now.
38:41
You know, I like the cup cleaning thing. If I
38:44
had a guy, I'd love to see him with another girl,
38:46
you know? So there's like, I would love to experience
38:48
what a swingers club is like, you know? So all
38:51
the things that all my people on my show are
38:53
doing, I don't think I'm interested in gangbangs.
38:55
That happens to be something that women are really
38:57
into. It's not like my thing, but like, who knows?
38:59
Look, I didn't think I was hot wiping material,
39:01
but now I think I would. And if I, my next relationship
39:04
I went into, and I do want another relationship
39:07
where my son gets like, probably like a year
39:09
or two, I will have another. open relationship
39:12
like i do believe in that now and that's how
39:14
it would be set up that's so those are my top
39:17
five things i think i gave you five things i
39:19
love it i love it we love it can we ask you some
39:21
business questions because we're both in the
39:22
same business but i can see you doing it on a
39:25
high level um yeah yeah i um you know i think
39:31
and you know siren and i can openly disagree
39:36
without it being an issue like a lot of people
39:38
do or because a lot of times for me it's about
39:41
discovering why she thinks that way and eventually
39:44
i might even turn to her so you know she kind
39:46
of you know you said you waited seven years to
39:49
monetize she's kind of like knowing her because
39:52
she's um this woman is a emotional i'm gonna
39:55
say this right emotional financial wizard in
39:58
other words she knows the emotional tools you
40:01
need to master money She's a genius. I love it.
40:05
But she was like, no, no, you're losing money.
40:09
But I think about the social network, that movie,
40:14
and I learned, because I don't know how much
40:16
true this is, but I think about how what I like
40:19
about it is when Mark Zuckerberg, and who cares
40:22
what you think about him or Facebook, I just
40:23
want to tell this story, when he was like, when
40:27
they were pushing him to monetize, and he's like,
40:31
bro. You don't charge for a party until you know
40:34
what the party is and you know it's bomb. And
40:37
I was like, that's it. So my advice to you is
40:39
I actually started on the free site today, monetizing,
40:44
and I started on Patreon. What's your advice
40:47
on that role? Because you're such a straightforward
40:49
person. I think I could tell you this. I'm the
40:53
type of person, I know what I want. I don't need
40:54
any advertisements for it. I hate ads and I hate
40:58
those things, but I just put it on my free site
41:01
because we're going to monetize and we're going
41:02
to use that money to really do some great things.
41:05
We have our own businesses. We don't need this
41:06
money. It's something that I want to grow for
41:08
different reasons. I guess my question is, how
41:12
did you approach this? And what's been your feedback
41:15
on monetizing? How did you approach getting ads?
41:19
And have you had a lot of negative feedback from
41:23
it? What's the feedback been on it? Okay, where
41:29
should I start? Because I have so much to say,
41:30
but I love the business side of things. And once
41:32
I decided to monetize, you know, I learned a
41:36
lot as I went, right? And I do believe a lot
41:39
of times in business, people think the wrong
41:41
way. They think like you need to know how to
41:44
do everything before you start. And that's not
41:45
true. Like I didn't know anything about Patreon
41:47
when I started Patreon. I paid someone on Fiverr
41:49
to set up my fucking Patreon. I didn't know what
41:51
the fuck I did. And now I have over 2 ,500 paying
41:54
people. I probably have like 5 ,000 total, but
41:56
like literally that paid me. lot of money on
41:58
patreon and i didn't know what the fuck i was
42:00
doing like one thing i will say is just do it
42:03
whatever it is when it comes to ads i mean when
42:07
i decided to monetize i was like i'm gonna monetize
42:08
because it was i didn't have other gigs you know
42:11
what i mean i was a stay -at -home mom it was
42:12
like i go into office or not i think sometimes
42:15
when you don't need the money maybe you know
42:17
how do you get that fire under your ass there's
42:19
nothing like that fire under your ass right that
42:21
you want to make it and it's i don't know what
42:22
he's talking about i need that money Okay, so
42:26
if you need that money. I got spa services. Yeah,
42:31
ads are great for your show. And I never get
42:34
people that complain. And anybody that does,
42:36
I mean, come on. Like I am giving you free, podcasts
42:40
are free. People are listening for free. I am
42:44
working my ass off for free. Who do you think
42:47
pays for that free content? So I don't feel bad.
42:51
I'll never, I do an hour long show. Okay. So
42:54
I put ads in there and I love my ads because
42:57
I feel like, honestly, my advertisers are helping
43:00
my listeners. I have load boost. It really makes
43:02
your load taste better and increases it. It's
43:04
a real thing. And I fucking love my advertisers.
43:07
Have you tried the product yourself? No, I have
43:11
to give it to my guy. I'm just being funny. It's
43:14
not for women. What's it called? No, it's not
43:16
for women. No, you don't get what I'm asking,
43:19
but that's fine. Oh, meaning like, oh. You said
43:24
it tastes better. Are you confessing that it
43:28
does? I did. Just so you know, I gave it to my
43:33
guy. He took a bottle last time I saw him. There
43:35
you go, girl. I'll let you know. But everybody
43:39
claims that I've had real life experiences. But
43:41
you, it's, it's, listen, if you, the best ads
43:44
to get are people in the business, you know,
43:47
like, like, you know, load boost, Uber lube,
43:49
you know, lube companies and, you know, anything
43:52
that has to do with sex. There's plenty of advertisers
43:55
out there that are perfect for your audience,
43:57
you know, and that's the kind of stuff that you
43:59
want. And you going about getting them is I would
44:01
always like, you know, sort of go out. I'm with
44:03
an advertised cast. Like they get me ads. I get
44:06
ads myself. People email. me i actually also
44:09
used to like work my ass off sending emails out
44:11
to companies and try to get it so it's just like
44:13
in the beginning it's a hustle like anything
44:16
else whatever you're starting up whether it's
44:18
the ads whether it's patreon wherever you're
44:21
looking thinking to monetize but once you decide
44:23
i mean you have to make the decision that you
44:25
want to monetize first of all and that's what
44:27
you have you have siren over here saying she
44:28
wants the money and socrates saying i don't i
44:30
don't need it i don't really care but but you
44:33
have to like it has to be a decision that this
44:35
is what we want to do now and then you have to
44:37
just start doing the things that'll make it.
44:39
And once you start doing that, like to me, once
44:41
I started doing that, it's like, I mean, you
44:43
would fall off your chair if I told you how much
44:45
I make on my show. And once I started doing it,
44:47
it just grew and grew. I know, I'm a researcher,
44:50
trust me. I know. Right, so you, so you, yeah.
44:55
Go on. Yeah, so, no, no, no, I love it. So I
44:58
appreciate that. And I love all the advice. I'm
45:01
definitely going to follow it. And thank you,
45:02
because I was nervous about it, honestly. I literally
45:04
started - About ads? Yeah, because - About ads?
45:08
Yeah, because the reason why is because - You
45:11
know, you don't hear it, but I do. And we all,
45:14
us muggles with ads, complain about it. Oh, I
45:17
had to skip 10 times for that. And so I'm just
45:22
hearing the negativity. And so that's why I like
45:24
talking to other people, because I like to hear
45:26
your side of it, right? Yeah, don't care what
45:29
they say. I listen to plenty of podcasts of huge
45:31
people, okay? I'm like a reality TV people person.
45:35
You know what I mean? I listen to all that shit.
45:37
And they all have ads on their show. As far as
45:39
I'm concerned, if someone doesn't have ads on
45:40
their podcast, they're not like a real podcast.
45:42
You know what I mean? Every podcast has ads.
45:44
I skip through all of them like people do for
45:47
mine. And that's what I say to anybody that complains.
45:49
For the one person that complains about my intro
45:51
or my ads, I'm like, just skip through them like
45:54
I do. Every other podcast out there has them.
45:57
Everybody's getting... your show for free so
45:59
do not feel bad someone has to pay for your work
46:03
like no one's paying you how who's going to pay
46:05
me to do this my sponsors pay my ads pay my patreon
46:08
pays that's the way i could produce seven episodes
46:11
for people and you sit there and you're free
46:13
and you're complaining that you have to press
46:14
fast forward three times i do that on all the
46:17
shows i listen to too if no there's no shows
46:20
out there that don't have ads Yeah, I love it.
46:23
Sorry, that's just the way that it is. So do
46:25
not feel bad to have them on your show. Thank
46:27
you. Feel like you're helping them out because
46:30
you need to get paid so you can continue to make
46:32
this content for those people. Yeah, and we're
46:35
coming down the end. I got one other question
46:37
for you, but let me be clear, y 'all. Let me
46:40
be clear. I said I don't need the money, but
46:43
she said why the money is there. One, I want
46:48
to say two reasons why. First, what she said.
46:50
I like my wife. She's spoiled prissy bitch, and
46:53
I love financing that. Okay? Let's just be fucking
46:56
real. I love it, you guys. Yeah. She walks around
46:59
with that fat ring. I spent a lot of money for
47:01
that shit. She walks around, and she's spoiled
47:04
as shit. And you say, oh, your woman is a spoiled
47:07
bitch. That's right, motherfucker. I did it.
47:10
I spoiled her. I love it. That's one. Well, I'm
47:12
not a bitch. I mean, all the time. The second
47:16
one is, I am so philosophical. passionate, and
47:22
dare say spiritual about this lifestyle. I have
47:25
big things that I want to do. And some of it,
47:27
I don't want to charge a lot for it. So I want
47:30
to make money in other areas. So when the really
47:33
good stuff comes along, I just want people to
47:35
enjoy it. Because some of the best parties I've
47:38
gone to, my friends, they throw it and you're
47:40
like, man, why don't you charge for this? And
47:42
why don't you do that? And they're like, no,
47:44
man, you don't understand. I love this life.
47:46
I love these people. These are my friends. I
47:49
just want them to come and have a good time.
47:51
I don't want them to worry about that. And I'm
47:53
like, those are things, not everything in the
47:55
business we do. When I'm in the business, I'm
47:58
making money. and i'm gonna get it but there's
48:01
certain things i want to do in this lifestyle
48:02
that are just i'm passionate about and i these
48:04
are my friends man yeah but your show is free
48:07
you're not charging no you're right that's why
48:08
i started no that's why i started trust me i
48:10
started today yeah and we're getting and you
48:13
just gave me i just forgot about fiber i love
48:15
fiber and i was like sitting there like oh i
48:18
guess i'm gonna sit around and figure it out
48:20
I forgot to pay somebody 40 bucks and they'll
48:23
do it for you. I love it. And ChatGPT will give
48:25
them everything they need to plug in. I love
48:27
it. Oh my God. It's the fucking best. Imagine
48:30
if I had ChatGPT seven years ago. I mean, it
48:33
does everything for you in two fucking seconds,
48:36
all the Googling. So yeah, it's so easy to monetize.
48:38
And I learned a long time ago, like there was
48:40
a certain things, like I think that I had like
48:42
a subconscious, like fear of success or I didn't
48:45
deserve money. And like, honestly, like you gotta
48:48
change the mindset. Yep. Have you ever read your
48:51
Badass Not Making Money? No, but you want to
48:55
know what I did around COVID, right? When I started
48:57
to monetize, this is my little secret thing that
49:00
I don't believe I would have become successful
49:02
without. I mean, A, you have to be a hard worker.
49:05
I love work. I always say if I was a breed of
49:07
dog, I'd be the dog that you need to throw the
49:09
ball for all the time. Like I don't want to sit
49:11
around and sleep all day. Like I'm a very much
49:13
into working. So that's my vibe, right? So you
49:15
have to have that and you have to want to like
49:18
work and be good at business and all that. But
49:20
you also have to believe that you deserve it.
49:23
You know what I mean? Because there is a flow
49:25
of money. And I believe that the only reason
49:27
why I never made tons of cash in my life, because
49:29
I was always did really well in any job. My bosses
49:32
all loved me, blah, blah, you know, but I never
49:34
really sort of ranked in the cash was because
49:37
I had some sort of issue. So I got these subliminal
49:39
tapes by Kelly Howell. One was attract wealth.
49:43
while you work. It's literally, you put it in
49:45
your earbuds. Okay. You hear birds chirping and
49:49
like water going and some subliminal things that
49:52
are being talked about in the back of your head.
49:53
And it changed my fucking life. I make the same
49:56
amount of money in one ad that I used to make
49:58
in a whole week. And I have like six ads a week.
50:01
Like, I mean, it really like literally changed.
50:03
And it really was about changing my subconscious
50:06
mind to believe that I deserved it. Every, who
50:09
cares about like, why not have as much money
50:11
as you can? And for me, I want a lot of money
50:14
for the freedom. And it's the freedom that it
50:17
gives you. It's not about, like to me, you know
50:20
what I do? I have a problem with people chewing
50:22
loudly. I can't fucking stand someone sitting
50:24
next to me in the movie theater and eating popcorn.
50:26
So if I go to the movies alone, I buy the seat
50:28
next to me and I can and I don't have to worry
50:30
about it. You know what I mean? That's why I
50:31
like to have money. So I could do things and
50:33
make my life, I don't have to be aggravated and
50:36
I could have what I want and it's for the freedom.
50:38
And there's nothing wrong with wanting a lot
50:39
of it. It's available for you. You're not taking
50:42
from anybody. And you kind of have to believe.
50:45
that you deserve it yep so shameless plug for
50:48
jen sincero the book you are a badass i'm making
50:50
money she talks all about that um i listen to
50:53
it whenever whenever i get into a money funk
50:55
i listen to that but no no listen to my tapes
50:59
they're 10 times better yeah we're definitely
51:00
gonna send you the link Oh, yeah. It's insane.
51:04
You don't have to do anything. It's literally
51:06
you. I could work. It's beta and theta waves.
51:09
So it focuses you while you're working. So I
51:11
listen to it when I'm editing. I listen to it
51:14
when I'm writing. I listen to it all the time.
51:16
I still listen to it to this day. And I started
51:18
six years ago. She's right. I've done the research
51:21
on it. I've done the research on it. Unequivocal.
51:23
And the CIA had the recent one over there released
51:27
things. Because sometimes they let out information
51:31
they've had for 30 years. This has been known
51:34
for millennia. She's right. I can't do it because
51:39
the sounds drive me crazy. But I'm looking for
51:43
yours. Maybe you'll be the first one. No, no,
51:45
but sounds drive me crazy. That's what she was
51:48
trying to say. No, I have issues with any kind
51:52
of sound. This is not that kind of sound. Trust
51:53
me. You know how sometimes my teeth squeak when
51:55
I eat? Yeah, she's talking about. No, no, no.
51:59
Right. But you're saying these tapes don't affect
52:02
you and you're relating. No. And I am. That's
52:05
the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah,
52:09
that's great. I love it. I have misophonia. I
52:12
can't listen to people chewing. I can't listen
52:14
to tapping. I can't listen to sounds. It gets
52:16
me just, I think maybe I'm ADHD or something.
52:18
Trust me, this actually focuses your brain. It's
52:20
nothing distracting at all. Trust me, it'll change
52:23
your life. And I've sent it to only select people.
52:26
I don't really talk about it that much. Sometimes
52:27
I was like, I should do a whole episode on it
52:29
because I may create my own because I could sell
52:31
the shit out of it because it works like fucking
52:33
magic. And anyone that I did it to, it changed
52:36
their life. You just got to listen to it. Trust
52:38
me, you'll see. to read a book actually better
52:40
do it we'll start right away sold sold send us
52:43
the link okay yeah so you know i will was uh
52:46
anything else you want to say or plug yourself
52:49
or anything else before we get out of here tell
52:51
us again what the name of your book is so people
52:53
and what platforms right but i also want to listen
52:55
i I also do want to say I want to plug your guys'
52:59
episodes. You, Brian, Siren, Socrates, you've
53:02
all been on my show. You guys gave me great episodes.
53:04
I got such great feedback from all of you guys
53:07
when you were on my show, just so you know. Okay,
53:09
so thank you so much for coming on my show. But
53:12
also thanks for having me, letting me promote
53:14
my book. It is called Strictly Non -Misconfession,
53:16
Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's available
53:18
in e -book format. It's only $9 .99 in paperback.
53:21
And then the audio book will be out soon. So
53:24
they can get it anywhere. They get booked and
53:27
then they could get my podcast, you know, anywhere
53:29
they listen to your podcast. But thanks so much
53:32
for having me on your show. This was fun to talk
53:34
to you guys. Yeah. Thank you, Kathy. And thank
53:37
you to all of our listeners and this Brian Morgan,
53:40
you know, he does so much better with the intros
53:43
and outros. We miss you, Brian. We'll talk to
53:45
you a little bit, but for everybody else. Have
53:50
a great night from the Bull Brotherhood. Bye,
53:53
you guys. Bye. bull brotherhood luxury