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55KRC Monday Show - Smitherman, Money Monday, Steve Goodin · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: I'm the dude, man, I am not.
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  Speaker 2: I am Brian Thomas hostin to Vid. You have Caarsey
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  Speaker 2: Morning Shore wish and everybody a very happy Monday. I
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  Speaker 2: hope you had a wonderful weekend. I can say that
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  Speaker 2: I did and shout out to everybody in Westchester was
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  Speaker 2: involved that Hoodie Memorial charity event on Saturday. Fantastic time
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  Speaker 2: and the weather ultimately cooperated in spite of the fact
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  Speaker 2: some of the early golfers got rained out for a
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  Speaker 2: short period of time, able to make it through the
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  Speaker 2: couple of rounds, put all kinds of money together for
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  Speaker 2: some scholarships, and enjoy a really wonderful day of Americana.
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  Speaker 2: Please try to find some of that in your life.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many great things going on in this country.
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  Speaker 2: It's so many reasons to be proud of where we live.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of one of the points I've made I've
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  Speaker 2: made in the Morning Show over the years. You know,
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  Speaker 2: live in Chicago for eight years and move back to
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  Speaker 2: this area, you will find that, you know what, I
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  Speaker 2: place that's well, more poorly run, more expensive, more frustrating,
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  Speaker 2: and then come back here and realize, in spite of
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  Speaker 2: our challenges locally, it's great. We're blessed. God bless each
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  Speaker 2: and every one of you. Don't take your area for granted.
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  Speaker 2: the fifty five Carsey Morning Show, It's Monday, we get
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  Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman and the Smither Van every Monday at seven
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  Speaker 2: twenty from the former Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: with Brian James, got it for a couple of segments
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  Speaker 2: today normally three. Today we'll be talking about the winners
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  Speaker 2: and losers from last week's earnings report.
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  Speaker 1: The economy is.
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  Speaker 2: Still rolling despite the war and high gas prices under
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  Speaker 2: the ice of a barrel boy went down again another
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  Speaker 2: five six bucks today because while the war's not going on,
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be World War three unleashed this past
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  Speaker 2: couple of days. Donald Trump pulled the plug again because
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  Speaker 2: we have negotiations going on with the Iranians? Is this
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  Speaker 2: another wash rentse repeat? Sure sounds like it to me.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we just have to wait around and find
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  Speaker 2: out what ultimately happens, which is typically the case anyway. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: high gas prices, man, you know I've mentioned I got
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  Speaker 2: a pump premium five dollars and thirty cents a gallon
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  Speaker 2: the other day. Yeah, economy second quarter growth only one
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  Speaker 2: point five percent, which is below expert expectations. That's the
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  Speaker 2: three things of the couple of items we talked about
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  Speaker 2: with Brian James at eight pH five, followed by the
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  Speaker 2: return of on the heels of last week's discussion on
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  Speaker 2: the invocation of the Fifth Amendment by doctor Anthony Fauci
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  Speaker 2: Steve Gooden, our legal expert from Porter Right, talking about
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  Speaker 2: will they or won't they the Cincinnati Public Schools tax Lovety,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like they won't and why along with the
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  Speaker 2: this is kind of interesting development, and I think we've
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  Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head with an off ed
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  Speaker 2: piece from Michael Reet's politicians exploit low voter turnout to
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  Speaker 2: raise taxes. Why do they always put levees on off
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  Speaker 2: cycle elections. That's because the people who are in favor
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  Speaker 2: of the levies are inclined to show up low voter
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  Speaker 2: turnout for off cycle elections, and the levies tend to pass.
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  Speaker 2: What's coming up in November not an off cycle election,
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  Speaker 2: a pretty damn big one by all accounts. Since our
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  Speaker 2: Public Schools apparently is going to vote today to pull
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  Speaker 2: the plug on its earned income tax levee hmmm, less
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  Speaker 2: than a week after approving that income tax levee, CPS
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  Speaker 2: preparing to reverse that decision. Board president Brandon Craig speaking
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  Speaker 2: with the Enquirer. So the board will likely rescind the
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  Speaker 2: tax that it's meeting today. It could then vote, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: on a property tax option, which was rejected previously because
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  Speaker 2: of concerns over property taxes through the roof, which they
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  Speaker 2: still are. That hasn't changed. Initially approved, the Earned Income
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  Speaker 2: Tax LEBTY was a five to two vote on July
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventh. Only district residents have to pay it, not
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  Speaker 2: commuters who work in the city. You guys have different
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  Speaker 2: school districts, so it wouldn't apply to you. It also
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  Speaker 2: didn't apply to Social Security earnings and investment income. But regardless,
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  Speaker 2: Hamilton County Republican Party, of course condemned it. But lo
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  Speaker 2: and behold. Then the Hamilton County Democratic Party Executive Committee
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  Speaker 2: said no, no, no, no, don't, don't put it on
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  Speaker 2: the ballot. All of the of course, Hamilton County Democratic
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  Speaker 2: Parties executive Committee are Democrats, and so is all of
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  Speaker 2: the school boards. How is it that those two entities,
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  Speaker 2: both Democrats, reached different conclusions Since a federation of teachers
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  Speaker 2: also oppose the Earned income Tax levy, arguing it would
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  Speaker 2: disproportionately affect working families and students with jobs. Huh, the
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  Speaker 2: poor taxpayer. We can't impose additional burdens on those poor
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  Speaker 2: taxpayers are under enough pressure right now that makes logical
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  Speaker 2: reasonable sense, it's a bad time to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently, the public schools considered three different options. They considered
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  Speaker 2: at first a seven mil property tax, then in eight
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  Speaker 2: mil property tax, and also the earned income tax. They
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  Speaker 2: arrived and voted on the earned income tax. Why well,
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  Speaker 2: because nobody needs the property taxes that go up. Bad marketing,
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  Speaker 2: bad timing. Board president Karen Moffett argued strongly against the
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  Speaker 2: property tax, said it would place too much weight on homeowners. However,
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  Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that they didn't go with
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  Speaker 2: the property tax tonight, if they reject the earned income tax,
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  Speaker 2: they may very well now vote for a property tax
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  Speaker 2: previously rejected. We'll find out tonight. Filing deadline to put
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  Speaker 2: a measure on the ballot is August fifth, TikTok, TikTok,
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  Speaker 2: four pm, giving the board no room tonight to really
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  Speaker 2: come up with alternatives. M The levy reversal relieves One
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  Speaker 2: big question, says the Adam Keller's writing on the Cincinnati Exchange.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Adam, whether the board settles on that seven
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  Speaker 2: milli option, the eight mil option, or goes with nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, considering this is not an off
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  Speaker 2: cycle election, I'm thinking they're gonna go with nothing. None
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  Speaker 2: of the taxes are popular in a time when we're
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  Speaker 2: all struggling with inflationary realities.
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  Speaker 1: Then pivot over.
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  Speaker 2: The City of Cincinnati. Mayor Aftab par Ofval has withdrawn
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  Speaker 2: the city's proposed income tax increase that too, is going
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  Speaker 2: to be in the November ballot. Purval citing economic conditions
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  Speaker 2: and affordability concerns. He announce the decision days before the
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  Speaker 2: deadline to put the issue on the ballot. According to
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  Speaker 2: reporting from the Cincinni Business Career, mayor cited broader economic
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  Speaker 2: uncertainty and concerns about placing additional financial burdens on the
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  Speaker 2: residents and business. Does that sound analogous to the discussion
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  Speaker 2: going on with regard to the public school levy. Huh,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you're over taxed. I guess you can't afford stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the reason they were raising the income TAXI
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  Speaker 2: proposing to in the City of Cincinnati aim to address
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  Speaker 2: long term budget challenges. Since I business currier, city officials
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  Speaker 2: determine that pursuing a tax increase at this time could
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  Speaker 2: create additional pressure on residents already facing higher living costs.
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  Speaker 2: So the mayor emphasized the city still facing long term
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  Speaker 2: financial challenges. Those challenges include maintaining infrastructure. Hey Joe, didn't
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  Speaker 2: they sell the railroad for that? Always an item in
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  Speaker 2: the budget. You buy stuff, you build stuff, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: take care of it should be first and foremost. After
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  Speaker 2: we're done maintaining what we already built, then we should
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  Speaker 2: consider maybe building something else or going down some other paths.
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  Speaker 2: But look, our infrastructure is crumbling. Maybe we should deal
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  Speaker 2: with that first. That will be a logical and reasonable
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  Speaker 2: way to pursue a city budget. But no, this is
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  Speaker 2: not the course of the path that they have been
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  Speaker 2: taking now for the past four decades or something. Maintaining
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure challenge. Funding public safety services another primary role of government,
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  Speaker 2: public safety and infrastructure should be numbers one and two,
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  Speaker 2: and then all of the other so called communities, support
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  Speaker 2: in initiatives and you know, non governmental organizations that are
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  Speaker 2: going to go out into the world and solve the
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  Speaker 2: society's problems. Those should be well secondary, well far below secondary.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have enough money to fund the primary of
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  Speaker 2: primary demands on government safety, public safety infrastructure, then you
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't go pursue other things. Let's take care of what
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  Speaker 2: we got first. Critics of the city tax also contended
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  Speaker 2: that higher taxes could affect competitiveness, oh as well as
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  Speaker 2: placing additional strain on workers and employers, i e. Taking
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  Speaker 2: more money out of their paychecks. Competitiveness, that's that whole
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  Speaker 2: reality we have going to the United States where people
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  Speaker 2: leave states like New York and California and go where
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  Speaker 2: right the states with lower taxes. You know, people make
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  Speaker 2: those choices with regard to moving interest state as well.
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  Speaker 2: Is it cheaper to live in Cincinnati or maybe maybe
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  Speaker 2: I how to move my business out to Butler County
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  Speaker 2: or Claremont County, Warren County, just to name a few.
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  Speaker 2: And I say that out loud, just believing the tax
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  Speaker 2: situation in those various counties probably better than Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 2: I say that without relying to any specific information. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, the whole idea competitiveness. Part of competitiveness is
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  Speaker 2: how much you tax your citizenry. Low taxes magnet stating
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  Speaker 2: the obvious. So did they pull the plug on these
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  Speaker 2: two specific And I know it's not finalized at least
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  Speaker 2: so far as CPS is concern. And Steve Gunn's going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about that but I'll also post a
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  Speaker 2: question to him. Did they pull the plug because it
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  Speaker 2: is not.
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  Speaker 1: An off cycle election?
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  Speaker 2: Did they pull the plug because a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are expected to show up in November? At least that's
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  Speaker 2: my kind of hope. I've been urging my listeners to
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  Speaker 2: plan on voting and bringing people who otherwise might not
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  Speaker 2: be inclined to vote to show up at the poll.
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  Speaker 2: So we don't have a Oh, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: guess we could point to our own, you know, leftist situation.
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  Speaker 2: Low voter turnout gave you the exact same city council
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  Speaker 2: and administration you got from the prior vote, doing the
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  Speaker 2: same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.
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  Speaker 2: The definition of stupidity five sixteen Right now, if you
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  Speaker 2: Five nineteen coupled with five to twenty Happy Monday, Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Smithaman at seven Money Monday, Brian James and then our
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  Speaker 2: legal expert Steve Gooden on the CPS tax levy and
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  Speaker 2: Why did the city looks like they're pulling the tax
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  Speaker 2: increase CPS reversal on the earned income tax increase? Could
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  Speaker 2: it be because it's not an off election cycle? Interesting
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  Speaker 2: article with Michael Ree Today politicians expect low voter turnout
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  Speaker 2: to raise taxes or exploit Rather. I've been saying this about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, nefariously getting Democrats. Socialists elected in primaries are
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  Speaker 2: chosen or selected by the Democrats and primaries because low
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  Speaker 2: voter turnout. Who's motivated to go? I guess people who
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  Speaker 2: don't have jobs and people who are invested in the
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  Speaker 2: political overthrow of our government. Anyway, it looks like you
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  Speaker 2: get socialists when there's low voter turnout. That's one of
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  Speaker 2: my theories anyway. But beyond that, this one they focus
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  Speaker 2: on Michigan, But the broader implication is the low voter
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  Speaker 2: turnout off cycle elections lead to tax levies being passed.
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  Speaker 2: Next battle between socialists and conventional Democrats will be fought
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  Speaker 2: in Michigan tomorrow, they write, Or Michael Wrights, I should
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  Speaker 2: give that many Michigans will send down tax hikes and
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  Speaker 2: critical local questions, all in off cycle elections in which
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  Speaker 2: low turnout makes them likelier to Passs of Michigan counties
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  Speaker 2: have tax and spend measures on the ballot again off cycle.
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  Speaker 2: It's the fourth Why didn't they wait till November question mark? Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: he offers a solution to this prodder problem that we
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  Speaker 2: all face. We face this here in Ohio all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: He outlines all these different Detroit suburbs and areas where
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  Speaker 2: they're increase or they want to increase taxes.
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  Speaker 1: They seize.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these requests might seem humdrum, but one factor
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  Speaker 2: makes them calculated and hazardous for taxpayers, which is the
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  Speaker 2: date pointing out August fourth, a seemingly random time to
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  Speaker 2: ask voters the four government money. Those may fifth when
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  Speaker 2: Michigan voters were asked to approve a two billion dollar
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  Speaker 2: local tax and spending plan. But these dates are no accident.
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  Speaker 2: He rites Local politicians, school board officials, and special interest
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  Speaker 2: groups such as teachers unions deliberately choose little known dates
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  Speaker 2: to push their demands off cycle elections. If dramatically lower
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  Speaker 2: turnout than the typical November election day, hmm, it isn't
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  Speaker 2: uncommon for off cycle elections to see a third, a quarter,
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  Speaker 2: or even less than a fifth as many people show
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  Speaker 2: go up to vote. The Socus election coincides with the
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  Speaker 2: Senate primary, but turnout will still be lower than on
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  Speaker 2: the traditional November dight. That's a point that applies to
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  Speaker 2: Michigan in the upcoming dates I just mentioned. For local
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  Speaker 2: politicals with a big spending plans, this provides an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to tilt the playing field when comparatively few people are voting,
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  Speaker 2: Politicians and interest groups can rally their bases to secure
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  Speaker 2: easy victories. Local officials can use tax payer money degrees
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  Speaker 2: the skids, and he points out, while it's illegal in
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  Speaker 2: Michigan anyway to electioneer with public money. Officials at school
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  Speaker 2: boards can publish guidelines and materials that quote unquote inform
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  Speaker 2: voters about how TAXIX revenue will be spent. As long
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  Speaker 2: as they don't say vote yes, they're fine. Combination of
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  Speaker 2: these educational materials and low turnout can get the votes
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  Speaker 2: to pass such as ballot measures. The political class almost
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  Speaker 2: always wins. Michael Wrights. I've analyzed the past ten years
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  Speaker 2: of available stats state data and found, on average eighty
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  Speaker 2: seven sen a local off cycle tax proposals passed at
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  Speaker 2: the ballot box that it is an uncommon more than
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  Speaker 2: ninety percent of ballot proposals to succeed in these off
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  Speaker 2: cycle elections. See the percentage pretty damn significant Along those lines,
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  Speaker 2: any rights turn out matters in every election, but proponents
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  Speaker 2: a low taxes, insane spending shouldn't have to fight harder
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  Speaker 2: to get people walk to the ballot box.
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  Speaker 1: And again I point out.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the CPS and the City of Cincinnati's decision to
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  Speaker 2: pull these tax levies released, that's the anticipated direction we're going.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna be it's gonna be a big turnout in November.
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  Speaker 2: I bet here, I am. I'll put a dollar down,
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  Speaker 2: not a betting man of I that there will be
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  Speaker 2: an off cycle election coming up this spring. Joe, do
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  Speaker 2: you think the public schools and the City of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 2: might put it on in a spring ballot? Of course,
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  Speaker 2: see Joe's on my side on this, And that's that's
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  Speaker 2: not a big Yes. That was an easy one, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, how do we do this? Off cycle elections
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  Speaker 2: heavily advantage politicians, especially interest groups. So how about this,
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  Speaker 2: Michael writes. The solution is simple, move meaningful local ballot
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  Speaker 2: questions to election day in November pointing out it would
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  Speaker 2: be easy for states to implement this reform of the
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  Speaker 2: simple law change. It applies to every county and locality
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  Speaker 2: within the borders. Local officials and interest groups would complain,
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  Speaker 2: but they've dominated the system for too long. They also
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  Speaker 2: have no reasonable defense for keeping the status quotes. One
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  Speaker 2: thing for primaries to be held off cycle so a
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  Speaker 2: smaller number of voters can decide each party's candidate before
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  Speaker 2: the big day in November. It's another matter entirely for
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  Speaker 2: a relatively tiny slice of the electorate to foist tax
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  Speaker 2: heights and spending decisions on everyone else. State governments should
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  Speaker 2: encourage the largest number of people possible to make their
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  Speaker 2: voices heard and unimportant ballot questions. August fourth may Or
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  Speaker 2: may not be a win for socialists in Michigan, but
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  Speaker 2: hopefully this is the last year in August when Michigan
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  Speaker 2: or voters anywhere in America are asked to fork over
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  Speaker 2: money with little awareness or Fair and Fair Now will
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  Speaker 2: point out Michael Reid's author of this and making you
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  Speaker 2: made this point, and I get it. I just have
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  Speaker 2: to point out, isn't it a sad thing? I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anybody is completely unaware When we have off cycle elections,
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  Speaker 2: we talk about it. It's in local news, it's reporting
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  Speaker 2: the newspaper. Candidates run political ads. We're surrounded by information
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  Speaker 2: regarding the upcoming vote, even if it's an off cycle election.
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  Speaker 2: It's our fault that we don't show up to vote.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're willing to show up in an
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  Speaker 2: on cycle election in November and reject the tax levies,
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  Speaker 2: which apparently statistically happens at least more often than off
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  Speaker 2: cycle elections, if that's important to you to vote no
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  Speaker 2: on it, why wouldn't you get up off your ass
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  Speaker 2: and go vote in an off cycle election? Question local
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  Speaker 1: of lunch.
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  Speaker 2: a lot of listeners that show up late, and some
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  Speaker 2: their lunch. Anyway, that'll be this Wednesday. I hope to
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  Speaker 2: see you there. Welcome back to the fifty five Carssey
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  Speaker 2: Morning Show. All's right with the world. Tom's on the phone. Tom,
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  Speaker 2: good to hear from you as always.
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  Speaker 6: Oh well, good morning, and another listener of lunch close
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: to my house. So unfortunately, I will be there.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know somedaytime, and I hope it's someday,
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  Speaker 2: not because you got laid off, or maybe just because
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  Speaker 2: you decided it's finally time to retire or something.
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  Speaker 1: Then hopefully we'll.
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  Speaker 6: Get Yeah, that sounds that sounds great.
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  Speaker 2: I always say, if you choose work over listener lunch,
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  Speaker 2: then you've made the right choice.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I did enjoy the two or three that I've
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: been able to get to. But you know, one thing
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: you said was the old adage of continuing to do
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: the same thing and expecting a different result. Well, for
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of these people, they're not expecting a different result,
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: they're hoping for the same results. And that's part of
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Financial calamity.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Oh well, just being in control of of you your
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: money and being able to just wildly spend your money.
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  Speaker 2: However, they damn well feel like financial calamity, which brings
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: about what well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: See you you call it financial calamity. So that's not
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: that's not.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Well, you've got a public school system that's sixty seven
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: million dollars in the hole annually speaking. You've got a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: city government that is thirty plus million dollars in the hole,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: so to speak. And obviously this is after years and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: years a long with the fact that we've got an inherited,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: crumbling infrastructure. One of the first and foremost priorities of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: government is to keep the roads and bridges safe and usable.
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  Speaker 2: They failed us miserably over the years with just that simple,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: basic core service.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, I can't believe you keep bringing up these
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: little minor things that that there's just so irrelevant. Just
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: but that's just like you being a being whatever logical
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  Speaker 6: of course, yeah right, no, I you know, I wholeheartedly
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  Speaker 6: agree with you. And yes, hopefully this, this article you
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: read and talking about this will make people to wear
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  Speaker 6: even more of the whole problem of people not, as
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: you put it, getting off your rear end and getting
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: out and voting. Yeah, that is the serious problem we
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: are in the situation we are in, and in large
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: part because of it, because people are too lazy to
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: get out and vote, and you know, the people that
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: feel motivated to do so do. I mean, it's it's
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: kind of underhanded for them to do this, but it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: still within the rules, so you can't say they're cheating,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: but you know, it feels like, no.
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  Speaker 3: They're not.
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  Speaker 2: They're the only I mean, this is the result the
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  Speaker 2: culmination of their efforts to undermine our faith in the
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  Speaker 2: United States form of government. Apathy. Oh my god, the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: government sucks. They don't do anything. They're perpetually in grid luck.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Why even bother to go vote? I get nothing but
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again. People just get
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: fed up. That's a success for the left because the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: most politically motivated people in the world seem to be
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the socialist last communists out there. They're the ones that
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: are organized, They're the ones that have the money behind them,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: foreign and other they're the ones that are going to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: actually go up and vote because they see a bright
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: future ahead of them when the United States collapses upon
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: well itself and they get to start fresh. Look at
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the DSAY platform. They want to throw out the constitution,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: period of end the story, and they're ravenous about doing it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, people just don't understand people that are lazy and
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: don't want to go vote. Some of it is they
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: don't think it's bad enough to worry about taking their
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: time to go vote. They you know, some some people,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: you know, they they just they don't pay enough attention.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: They're not uh, they're not dealing with stuff that that's
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: that's hard enough that they feel they got to go vote. Well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: trust me, we are right there on the verge of it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: If you're not being directly affected at least you don't think.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: If you don't think you're being directly affected by it,
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: just another election or two and and you're gonna get
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: hit by it, and then what are you gonna do?
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: It'll be too late by then. They can't wait until
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: stuff comes to your doorstep. You got to look ahead
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: and see what's coming. And it's happened to enough people
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: not and we don't even have to use that as
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: well anymore, or any other country from from the past
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: that that has failed because of socialism. We can look
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: at different cities and states in our own country and say,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: you know what, this this, this can't happen here. We
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: have to do something about it. And of course we
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: got to get out and vote. And when we do,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: You do the same time and vote even if you
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: don't have a perfect candidate. My friends on the on
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the writers side of the ledger, you're not going to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: get perfection in any candidate. Well, what's better staying home
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and not voting because you didn't get the guy or
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: gal that you wanted. That person who is being run
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  Speaker 2: by your party isn't perfect in your mind? What's the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: other side offering? By not voting, you're assuring the other
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: side of victory. And I presume that you know what,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: if this particular candidate your party has chosen isn't let's say,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: conservative enough, or doesn't vote particular way on one particular
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: sub platform point, maybe the other guys in favor of
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that subplatform point, and you're going to get that if
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: you don't go vote, that's the point. It seems a
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  Speaker 2: forty on a Monday, Happy one to you. If I
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  Speaker 2: anyway with the phones, Bobby, welcome back to the morning showed.
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  Speaker 2: Are we under or over on the five point five call?
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  Speaker 2: You mean in terms of acts of violence in the
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  Speaker 2: greater Cincinnati area last Thursday? Welcome back Bobby, Happy Monday,
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  Speaker 2: My brother face flag family and always take me over,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: yoh yeah, always take the over. So you did the
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  Speaker 2: math on it?
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  Speaker 1: Are we over?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? We had three in one place and two in another.
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  Speaker 5: And that's just what they want to tell us, not
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  Speaker 5: counting the spectrum. Poor individual got shot.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, that was, but that was prior to the
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  Speaker 1: five point five over under call last Thursday.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: You're exactly correct.
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  Speaker 2: Man, just you're the one that establishes it on a
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  Speaker 2: Thursday for the Friday through Sunday calculation. So can't include
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  Speaker 2: once that happened earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you can't hold these people back. It doesn't matter
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: if it's one hundred degrees outside, storm and rain, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: they're still will conduct their violence in Shadyville.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to happen there.
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  Speaker 2: And we look what can happen with an armed citizen
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: at an in and out burker helping perhaps save any
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: number of people by pulling out his licensed, lawfully owned
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: firearm and defending the general public against a violent threat
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: from a crazy gunman. How about them Apples?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's great, Stay fried. You need to be healed.
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  Speaker 4: Stay healed.
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  Speaker 5: It's dangerous out there.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate the call, Bobby as always man from three seven
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  Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred eighty two to three talk. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: to New York in the stack of stupid man described
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: as unhinged. He's forty four years old, and he's naked,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and he jumped off the top of the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Nutjob affixed multiple flags at the top of the bridge
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and then took off his clothing after he scaled the
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  Speaker 2: North tower on the Manhattan side of the bridge two
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  Speaker 2: thirty in the afternoon. According to police, New York Police
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Department's Emergency Service Unit tried to convince him to come down.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, try to encourage him to come down the safe way.
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  Speaker 2: Rather than that, he just jumped off the top after
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  Speaker 2: getting naked. Here to be holding a piece of clothing
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: or a bag above his head, kind of like a
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: makeshift parachute. Well it wasn't. He plummeted into the water.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Fortunately for him, the Harbor Unit police rescued him from
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the eastward before he died. I guess one of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: flags a Kazakh flag. Another described as a blanket with
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: random writing on it, although at the time of the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: New York Post reporting on it, no one knew what
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: was on that one. Taking New York City's Bellevue Hospital,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: where he was listed in stable condition, dangerous effort or
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: dangerous a thing he did. The two suspension towers are
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy eight feet tall. Drugs maybe Okay
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: teacher in Minnesota sentenced last week after he stepped on
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  Speaker 2: students plural why are you doing that backs during lockdown drills.
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  Speaker 2: He did it as a form of punishment. Forty nine
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  Speaker 2: year old Jason Lowell Rogers sentenced a two years probation.
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  Speaker 2: He has to surrender his teacher's license in any state
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  Speaker 2: charge of three counts and malicious punishment of a child.
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  Speaker 2: Received a stay of adjudication on all three counts, which
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: is a legal arrangement in which the court temporarily puts
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: proceedings on hold and delays entering formal conviction even though
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the defendant enters a guilty plea. So if he follows
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: all the court rules, the charges will ultimately be dismissed,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: but if he violates the probation in the terms of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the agreement, the court could enter a conviction. As conditions
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of his probation, Rogers must surrender his teachers license in
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: any state as I mentioned, complete an anger Management Assessment form,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: ninety hours of community service, and write letters of apology
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to each of the victims. Also ordered to pay twenty
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars in fines and fees. Charge
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: last year after deputies were called to the Lake Region
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  Speaker 2: Hospital following an incident at the Underwood's School. A sixth
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: grade student told investigators at Rogers, who court records indicates
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: weigh more than three one hundred and fifty pounds, stepped
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  Speaker 2: on his back with both feet while the student was
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: lying on his stomach during a lockdown. Later, Rogers admitted
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  Speaker 2: to doing it to two other students placed on administrative
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  Speaker 2: leave from the school following those charges. JEZ leave five
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  Speaker 1: Take here traditionally in five KRC the talk station, and it's.
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  Speaker 2: you can stick around all morning, feel free to give
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  Speaker 2: me a call, but make sure around for Christopher Smithler
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: with the Smith event at seven twenty and Money Money's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Brian Jansen and got Steve Gooden returning our legal expert
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: to talk about since at public school tax let, which
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: appears like they're going to pull the plug on maybe
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: in going back to the idea that it's in an
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  Speaker 2: on cycle election, I think you should wait for that
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: actually to show up in an off cycle election. After
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the first of the year, m M anyway back to
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the stack of stupid Houston man claiming he found what
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: appeared to be a foreign object details in a moment
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: inside a piece of fried chicken from Popeyes. What he
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: said he discovered what he believed to be a fried
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: condom while eating his meal. Yeah, that's my reaction. Joe
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: later fouled a police report seeking medical attention. Community active
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: as kwanel Action. Doctor Candace Matthews also visited the restaurant,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: calling for answers during the investigation into the incident. Users
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: on social media, how did this happen? Allegations have you
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: had to be independently verified. Authorities have not confirmed what
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the object was or how it ended up in the food.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Popeyes had no public comment on the claim. Who's preparing
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: your food? We got a Cobb County, Georgia where a
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: man's there accused of trying to run over a woman
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: three times times because she said good morning to him.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? I don't think we'll ever
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: find out. Joe Straker.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Twenty one year old Jesse Allen Davis charged with aggravated
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: assault and hit and run and connections with the July
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: nineteenth incident. Happened to Marietta, Georgia, according to Cobb County Police.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: They said the woman told police she said good morning
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to Davis while jogging past him. He got into his vehicle,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: drove toward her, and attempted to strike her multiple times
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: without provocation. While this was all going down, the woman
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: called nine to one one told the dispatchers that she
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: had taken cover. When asked if she was in a
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: safe location, she said, yes, I'm behind a garbage can.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: What's more, nearby residence speaking with local news that the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: driver nearly hit both him and another jogger while speeding
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: through the neighborhood. Please say Davis led the area, hit
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: another vehicle before crashing into a utility pole nearby officer
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: showed up at the scene and arrested and booked into
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the Cobb County Jail without bond. No court date been scheduled,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: and police say they have not identified a motive for
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the alleged attack, other than he didn't like the warm,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: friendly salutation good morning, thank you is the biggest douche
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: of the universe, in all the galaxies.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: There's no bigger douche than you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: In jail, You've reached the top, the pinnacle of Douche,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the good going dou Your dreams have come true. Well,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you know, prosecutors make mistakes. People go to prison, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't go to prison. Sometimes it's one of the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: reasons why I don't believe the death penalty, because well,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: powers of bee can make mistakes and maybe you might
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: get set up. There are people over the course of
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: our American history who said they've been set up. Evil
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: prosecutors with the vendetta, they've got a chip on their
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: shoulder for some particular reason, going after members within the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: community for something totally unrelated to some crime, although alleging
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: that they had committed a crime. How about a typo
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: putting you in prison? This is a frightening story, this
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: one out of Canada. Man recently released from prison has
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: now won his appeals after a court found investigators mistook
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: his user name on an instant messaging app for that
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of an actual child pornographer. February twenty, twenty, thirty year
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: old Brandon Claim and Nova Scotia arrested in a child
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: a sex abuse material investigation, charged with making sexually explicit
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: materials available to a child, child, luring in possession of
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: child porn since to eighteen months in prison. He was
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: convicted in April of twenty three, and then eighteen months
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of probation. He served the full eighteen month prison sentence
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: was on probation when finally the Nova Scotia Court of
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Appeals made a decision to acquit him of the charges.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Court to the court, investigators identified the wrong username on Kick,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: which is a free instant messaging app that apparently offers anonymity.
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  Speaker 2: This while they were trying to tack down a man
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: who was accused of communicating with a twelve year old
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: girlfriend Wisconsin. That girl, corded police told said she had
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: a man as she met online, performed sexual acts for him,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and engage and exchanged sexual images with him. Those crimes
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: happened in twenty eighteen. The mistake, they say, came down
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: to a discrepancy in the number of underscores in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Kick user names. The innocent guy who served eighteen months
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: in prison, who had his prison conviction overturn claims username
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: nearly identical to the suspects. The suspects username had it
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: was f us two underscores, the letters ro, then one
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: underscore and then dah thus wrote out two underscores. That's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a critical point. The guy who was wrongfully charged and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: convicted only had one underscore, Otherwise it's identical to the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: actual perverts username on Kick and an Affidavid submitted for
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: his appeal. Claim wrote, in the later stages of preparing
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: my appeal arguments, it was discovered that the subpoena contained
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: a subtle mistake that changed the course of my life.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: The police officer did not notice that the perps kick
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: username was that with the two underscores. The discrepancy went
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: completely unnoticed at the trial. It was never brought to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the attention of the trial judge.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Claim.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: The innocent guy also reported he hadn't even used his
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: kick account since twenty twelve, which was six years before
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the alleged crimes occurred. That's according to reporting from New
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: York Times. The judge in the decision quote he should
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: never have been charged, let alone convicted the suspects. The
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: real guy's account actually apparently belongs to a guy in California.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: According to the court ruling, that person has yet to
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: be arrested. Now can you imagine that happening to you?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And it's really a swirling question marks about why didn't
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: his attorney raise that how was that he wasn't able
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: to convince and at least interject some measure of reasonable
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: doubt into his prosecution. It's not me, I didn't use kick,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: but it's your user ID, it's connected with you. Eighteen
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: months in prison and Joe, what's more worse on this?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: As you well know my listeners probably know as well.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: He goes to jail for child porn. Yes, exactly right,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: So he suffered the abuses in prison presumably that all
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: members of the child pornographer community do when they get convicted,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and he wasn't guilty. That's frightening. Five point fifty six.
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  Speaker 2: Come to a five fifty seven, got lots to talk
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: about coming up. I hope you can stick around me
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  Speaker 2: right back.
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  Speaker 1: We put the app in happening all fores heal at
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  Speaker 1: six oh five.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up at six oh six fifty five KRESI Talks Station.
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  Speaker 2: coming up at seven twenty Christopher Smithman. Uh Bringhi McCowen
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: from the Hudson Institute. You got do you Adam?
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  Speaker 3: Do you?
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  Speaker 2: Adam Kaylor's podcast Joe Now, okay, I thought you did
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  Speaker 2: that charge conversation, So he does that one anyway, A
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• 35:31
  Speaker 2: We're off again. You heard at the top of the
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  Speaker 2: air news. President Trump anounced yesterday, well, we're not going
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: to launch World War three, which actually Trump said the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: operation which was canceled on bombing around would have been
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the biggest attack since World War Two, could have been
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: disastrous for Iran. His words, anyway, We're not doing it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: The Gulf allies urged him to hold off and try
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to give diplomacy another op another shot, And we've been
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: down this road quite a few times before. I don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: know where the count is as of right now. So
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I was asked by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates cutter,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: and by Iran. Notice the emphasisco. I'm not quite sure
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the Iranians got the memo on this one. And by
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Iran to hold off the strikes, it would have been
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a massive attack. When the Allies asked to call it off,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you gotta say, well, let's see, Trump said. He said
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Saudi Prince Moham Mohammad bin Samon personally urged him to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: pursue negotiations and not start the bombing campaign. Trump said
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: he asked the cron prince, what would you rather have
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: us do? The response, we would prefer a deal rather
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: than an attack. Well, think about that, I sert everybody
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: in the listening audience probably prefers a deal rather than attack.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: The logistics of an attack rather complicated, as we've found
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: out over time in this conflict, which was supposed to
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: be over by now. But doesn't a deal require both
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: sides of the negotiation, And when you're dealing with the Iranians,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: it's quite really still a swirling question mark over who's
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: running the country and who's got the ability to actually
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: enter into a deal or not. The warfighters, the IRGC,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: or maybe some of the politicians who are sitting at
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the negotiation table from time to time at least paying
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: lip service to the idea that Iran wants to negotiate.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think that situation has changed at all from
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: everything I've read anyway, Presidents of the golf leaders believe
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in agreement is close, referring to ongoing efforts to reopen
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the Straight of Horne mooz as well as still talking
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: about in the background though in the broader nuclear negotiations
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: with Tehran, whatever happened to the new because that was
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the primary reason for going in and starting this war,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: if I recall correctly, Straight of Horne moves just popped
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: up sort of as an aftermath of the bombing campaign
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: we started. The Iranians woke up to the reality that
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: they had potential to control that region and shut down
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: twenty percent of the global economy and so doing. When
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I talked with Daniel Davis about that, he said, well,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the Iranians have known they could do that for years
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and years and years they just never exercised that option.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: So guess what they did, and now they are well
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: not wanting to walk away from it. They want to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: control the strait and at least be able to tax
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the ships going through make some money off of it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: They also want to be able to sell their oil
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: on the market, which is another complicating factor for the Iranians. Yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: they're being deprived of billions of dollars because they can't
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: get their oil out because of the blockade. Anyway, President said,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: golf leaders believe in agreement is close. Allies think there
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: is a deal. He said yesterday there is a deal
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: on the Strait of Horne Mooz and it will be
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: a deal on the nuclear that's a quote. Obviously, he
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: sounds very optimistic. We again, i've heard very comparable words,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: is not identical words before, only to find out the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Iranians aren't interested. You enter into a memorandum of understanding
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: which talks about the straight of Horn moves remaining open
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: for sixty days while they negotiate the details and solidify
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the memorandum of understanding to some agreed upon principles. They
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: didn't even last that long. What was it two days
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: into the memorandum of understanding that the Iranians started blowing
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: up boats again. Hmm, maybe they have a different perception
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: of what means an agreement. He said, it's US is
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: going to give diplomacy another chance. Then, of course, military
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: options always still on the table. He said, we're going
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: to just go see whether or not we can make
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: a deal. Ask whether Iran faces a deadline. He didn't
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: set one, just saying we will see. He said, I'm
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: not looking to kill people. John Acknowledge computing views over
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: how to handle Iran. He said, it's a group of
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: people who would love me to do it, just do it,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and there's another group of people that does not want
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: me to do it. Talking again to the division with
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the Iran within the Iranians itself, who's at the negotiation table,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the guys who want the deal, the guys that don't
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: want it. The guys that don't want it seem to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: have the Trump card. No pun intended on that one.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Within the Iranian administration. President also added the talks with
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the run and set to resume today this afternoon, said
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: we're talking to them. It begins tomorrow. This is a
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: comment from yesterday. It would save a lot of lives,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of course. But anyway, the last month memorandum of understanding
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: collapsed amid competing claims over the Strait of Hormuz, Trump
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: insisting that it would remain open, Tehran believing that the
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: deal allowed it to dictate the route taken by ships
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: through the key waterway. Well, the memorandum of understanding is
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: kind of silent on that, isn't it. You can read
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it yourself. It only take you a couple of minutes
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to go through the whole damn thing. It's, shall we say,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: a bit vague, but I don't think it in any way,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: shape or form it can be read to allow Tehran
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: to dictate the terms of how much people have to
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: pay to go through the Straight of Horme Horus is
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: just supposed to remain open. Iran's foreign minister. Here's an
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: interesting different take on the seeming progress that Trump announced,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: We're not bombing because we're negotiating again, going back to
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the point that it takes two sides to actually negotiate,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: or more than two in this particular case, Iran's Foreign
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: ministry spokesperson Esmail bye Ay said just yesterday that the
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Strait of Horror moves quote will end no way return
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: to the status it was before the February twenty eighth,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: that was, of course, the day the war started. On
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a call with Irani and State TV, the Foreign Ministry
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: spokesperson added that Iran is discussing shipping through the strait
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: with Oman on the other side of horror moves, but
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: there is no current talk about reopening the crucial waterway.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Iran's defense minister, posting on social media, said that the
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: country was neither surprised nor passive after Trump's announcement, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: said Iran continues to remain alert in the face of
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: concrete threats from the United States. Pivoting over an unnamed
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: regional official who has information on this, you know, a
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: news source behind the scenes, not authorized to speak with
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: the press. One of those kind of deals anyway, This
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: inside a regional official who served, who was involved in
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: the mediation efforts of the proposal, calls for reopening the
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: straight up hoorm moves and halting attacks across the region,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: including by Iranian back militials, militias in Iraq, on the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Arab Gulf countries and Jordan. Trump didn't mention the extraneous
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: other organizations out there or the other of the broader
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: effort on what this negotiation might bring about. It's a
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: regional official. In this case, the US in exchange apparently
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: agreed will agree to end its naval blockade on Iran,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: allowing them to get that much needed oil out of
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: their country so they can generate some revenue. Media mediation
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: efforts they say are underway. The official who spoke on
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: a condition of anonymity, Trump said Israel is joining his
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: commitment and the war by implementing a ceasefire deal. Israel
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: did not publicly comment on that announcement either. Meanwhile, Israel's
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: striking targets in Gaza. I know Horror Mooz was one
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: of the ones that was involved in the original memorandum
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: of understanding, although Israel wasn't a signatory on that, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I think Israel kind of felt like it got stabbed
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: in the back. Whoa, whoa, whoa, How did you get
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: us involved in the memorandum of understanding. We didn't say
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: anything with regard to the strait or with regard to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: our bombing efforts. But yesterday Israeli strikes continued in Gaza.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: This is a second day in a row. They killed
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: at least nine Palestinians. Despite this, Trump announcement of a
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: breakthrough in the efforts to implement the ceasefire, again, Corn
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: of Israel's Energy Energy minister quoted is saying that there
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: was no deal to halt the attacks in Gaza, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: he saw a need for Israel, which controls about seventy
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: percent of the strip, to take full control of it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: So talk of disarmament, and there was a deal that
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: was announced last Thursday, a breakthrough after Hamas agreed to
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: disarm undo the US backed initiative to implement the ceasefire
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: agreement reached last year in Egypt. But Hamas has said
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: it will hand over its weapons for storage ready only
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: after Israel halt its military operations and fully withdraws its
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: forces in line with that agreement. Israel saying no, we're
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: not going to withdraw our forces until we have complete control.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: So there you go, there's an agreement, and yet there
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: isn't an agreement. Some it's like misreading of it depending
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: on who you're talking to. I'm just at a loss
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: for what to say on this. You know, I had
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: an injury. One of my listeners came up to me
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: on Saturday at the charity event, he said, why don't
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: we Why doesn't Trump just do it? Don't you think
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: that he should just go in and just wipe them out.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a simple solution, doesn't it. That challenge
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: it's so complicated. Beyond that, our regional partners there apparently
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: don't want the bombing campaign to continue because they're the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: recipients of all the rockets to get launched out by
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the Iranians. The disparate, widespread manufacturing of these drones and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: these other weapons of war the Iranians have at their disposal,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it's all over the place. Logistically a massive challenge. Then
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: there's the whole idea that we're running out of missiles
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: and weaponry ourselves. There's a whole challenge political and of
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: course ethically and morally about putting boots on the ground
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and having American men and women in uniform die as
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: a consequence of trying to well get rid of the
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: evil folks that are running Iran. And then you know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: ask yourself a question, what's the point of having nuclear weapons.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: You're not going to use them. You're not going to
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: be a first user of nuclear weapons. We were the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: only country in the world to use that offensively in
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: World War two, right, I think the United States, given
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the fact that we've got so many thousands of nuclear warheads,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: could probably end the conflict in a matter of moments.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: If we decide to engage in realty much what will
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: be a holocaust evaporating the Iranian people, many of whom
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: don't agree with what the government's doing to them. You're
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: left with conventional weapons and wars of attrition and a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: warfare that's no longer asymmetric, tiny little weapons like mosquitoes
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: versus really really expensive weapons systems that take a long
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: time to manufacture and are extraordinarily costly. Learning a lot
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: small weaker powers can maintain a defense against and often
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: seem to win against, the larger, better equipped, massive military
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: forces that they face. See Russia in Afghanistan, United States
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: in Afghanistan, United States in Vietnam. Can we go on
• 46:55
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• 47:13
  Speaker 2: what happens when the war comes to your backyard and
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you know you are definitely facing that threat. Because if
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: you're the Iranians and you're well angry the United States
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: key's bombing you and want to well leverage your position,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: you've already got the straight of horror moves you found.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, look we can do this and interrupt
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the global economy. How about cyber attacks on our water systems?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It was widely reported Minnesota had cyber attacks, and well,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: guess what, Michigan also joined the fund on Saturday. Over
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the weekend, nine of the state's water systems got cyber attack. Now, fortunately,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the officials said the systems now are operating safely. But
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: over in Minnesota, thirty water systems had been as cyber attack.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Some widely reported are widely reported it was the Iranians
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: who did it. Apparently they have done this before. It's
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: reported that iran one's interest in our water operations systems
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: goes back years. It was twenty sixteen the Justice Department
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: charged a group of Iranian hackers and connects with the
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: cyber attack that hit a small dam near New York City.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: So they've done this before. Now, Trump tried to downplay
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the Iranians involvement in these cyber attacks on water systems
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: in Michigan and Minnesota, but it remains to be seen.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: The FBI is investigating, but it has not publicly identified
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: a culprit. FBI cybersecurity infrastructure security agencies, along with other agencies,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: warned last week the Iranian hackers have been targeting water
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: and wastewater systems and the operational controls of other critical
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: infrastructure sectors, which when I see read other I think
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: about electric grid. They say digital warfare is now, well,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: it's part of the military conflict. It's warfare now local
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: water plants, healthcare facilities. It's noted widely that they often
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: lack the funds and know how to install the latest
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: software patches or take security steps. That's Dave Hatter's regular point,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: rush to get it working, rush to adopt the technology
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: allows us to well remotely turn things on and off.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: That's easy for the workers, but it makes it a
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: real problem if you don't have the advanced infrastructure in
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: there to fend off cyber attacks. Now they become a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: favorite target. Why the relative ease of penetrating them, and
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: because of the panic that these disruptions can cause and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: go ahead. It doesn't take much imagination to think about
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: the panic that would ensue if your water quits running
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: or is contaminated. Think about, for a protracted period of time,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: how much water do you have backup for your available use?
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: What happens if the electric grid goes out over the weekend?
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I had tried to log into my bank accounts. Had
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: two separate banks, and we have bank accounts in Neither
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: of them worked. Both of them were dealing with technical
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: difficulties in the computer systems. I did not have access
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: to my financial information online. Got a little worried. I mean,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: both of the accounts I can't get through. Has someone
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: hacked into our bank accounts? Panic ensues? It had nothing
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: to do, No one had hacked the accounts, but there,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: for a moment, that's a real frightening thing to think about.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I was thinking I'd have to drive where I'd on
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: over to one of the actual physical branch banks and
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: speak with someone there, wondering how it is that I
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: can't get access online to what's the information? It started
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: working again later, But how about that scenario going on
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: for weeks? How about a ransomware scenario? On your bank's
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: financial information, where they delete your money or otherwise sell
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: your information out on the global market. That happens all
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: the time. The war can very well extend into your neighborhood.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: It's worth thinking about being prepared for that type of event.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Happening twenty seven fifty five KR see the talk Percy
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  Speaker 2: the talk station sixty one fifty five Krcity talk station,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Happy Monday. There are some local stories, but you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: corollary reporting on this attack in Michigan and Minnesota in
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the water systems. Apparently the FBI announced it was over
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the weekend, and it's just prior to the weekend that
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: actually seven states got hit with cyber attacks on critical infrastructure.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: They didn't name which states of We do know about
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Michigan and Minnesota. And you know, Trump said, yeah, don't
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: look at the Iranians, they should be so lucky. He
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: blamed Governor Tim Waltz on the Minnesota attacks. Well, you know,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: there is blame to be placed there. That is the
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: failure of our elected officials to get ahead of the problem,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: allocate finite resources in the form of money and necessary
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: technological upgrades to protect our infrastructure from being attacked. So
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: go ahead and blame your local officials, but someone's behind
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the attacks, and the world is trying to attack us.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: There's a whole any of different cyber attacks that have
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: been played. The Iranian launched ones back in twenty twenty three,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: they seize control device in the Municipal Water Authority of Equippa, Pennsylvania.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: You got the Cyber Army of Russia Reborn. That's an organization.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: They attacked water facilities in the United States and Poland,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: including a breach in Mule Shoe, Texas, dumping tens of
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: thousands of gallons of water. October twenty twenty four, American Water,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: which is described as the largest regulated water utility in
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the United States, fourteen million people served, had their computer
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: system shut down after a cyber attack. Then you got
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Beijing's vult typhoon, they say has spent years quietly prepositioning
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: inside US critical infrastructure networks. Per SISA, it's everywhere, It's
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: all around us. And so maybe we have the current
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: administration under Trump to blame for not, you know, doubling
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: down on security. I don't know, but politicians are in
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: control of this. Ultimately, when you do a better job
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: of getting ahead of this or we are going to
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: be in a world of chaos and hurt. Back over
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the local stories got a deadly game of Russian Roulette
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: ending with a man being sentenced to ten years in prison.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Ar Marion Horned sentenced on Friday. He pled guilty the
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: involuntary manslaughter in the death of twenty three year old
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Rachel Counts. That's the court of the Hamlint County Prosecutor announcement.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Horn was with several friends at a Winton Hills home
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: in October of last year, pulled out a revolver, took
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: all but one bullet out of the gun, and then said,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: let's play Russian Roulette. Single bullet in the revolver. Yeah, shot,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: hitting twenty three year old in the chest. Kinnie Pila,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Chamlin County Prosecutor, said, this tragic case is a heartbreaking
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: reminder that firearms are never toys and should never be
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: handled recklessly. Well began as a gathering among friends and
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: with a young woman losing her life because someone treated
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: loaded guns like a game. There's no way to say
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: play safely with firearms. We hope this conviction serves as
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: a warning that reckless decisions with guns have devastating, irreversible consequences.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Counts died of the scene despite life saving measures. According
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to Cincine Police, that is absolutely terrible since I police
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: an investigation with shooting South Cumminsville, three people injured. Incident
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: happened at five am the thirty seven hundred block of
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  Speaker 2: Bordon Street. Two women and a man reportedly injured as
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  Speaker 2: a consequence of the incident, multiple rounds fired off in
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: a short period of time. Conditions of the three shooting
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  Speaker 2: victims not clear as the time of the reporting a
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: day ago. Officers said they believe the incident had been
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: a moving gun battle between two groups of people. No
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: suspects remain in custody at this time, and the CINCINNT
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Police continue to investigate the incident. That one I suppose
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: part of the over on Bobby's five and a half
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: over and under prediction for violent crimes in the City
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati over the three day weekend period. Stick around
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: plenty to talk about. You want to steer the direction
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  Speaker 2: of the conversation. Hey, forty fifty five Karsite Talks Station,
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  Speaker 2: Happy Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Marien.
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  Speaker 2: The federal officials didn't say specifically which additional states got
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  Speaker 2: hit with cyber attacks on the water infrastructure. But according
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to reporting, the Moreens saw California, Michigan, South Dakota among
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the additional states that joined Minnesota as well as I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: guess Michigan. Add California and South Dakota to the list
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  Speaker 2: that we had already sounds to me like more states
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: than that. And then you go back to the idea
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  Speaker 2: that don't well shouldn't they have already had been had
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: protections in place on these cyber attacks. I mean, you
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: can certainly anticipate they're going to happen. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: job for our elected officials, anybody responsible for the all
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  Speaker 2: critical infrastructure we rely on for our very lives. Yeah,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: you'd think they'd be ahead of that. Is it take
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: a couple of hacks on our critical infrastructure to get
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: people off the dime to start putting protections in place. Well,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: hopefully they will to the extent they haven't we find
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: out and thus far with these incidents, they probably didn't.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you can blame Waltz and other elected officials
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  Speaker 2: for failure, but ultimately it's the hackers who are going
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: to do it. So every state that has this problem,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: you're all well in the crosshairs of public opinion and
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: public expectation, and it's reasonable for us to expect the
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: critical infrastructure is protected and that valuable resources and limited
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: valuable resources should be well. That should be like number one,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: it's like going back to government's responsibility. You and me
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: infrastructure safety, protecting us from cyber hackers. Now you'd also
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: think that would extend over to the tax dollars they
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: take from us. Jay's out there worried about fraud, and
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: so am I every single day of the week. And
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I think this should be a rallying cry for every
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: tax payer. What in the hell's going on? How come
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: you don't have protections in place to prevent criminals out
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: there from ripping us off. Jd Vance bringing more illustrations
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  Speaker 2: to our attention last Friday. We've got the Task Forced
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  Speaker 2: to eliminate fraud. No more references to Doge anymore. But
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: he's in charge of the Task Force to eliminate fraud.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: He's the chair, and he identified more fraud that they
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: identified two hundred and thirty billion dollars. Announced on Friday
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  Speaker 2: that they have found fifty six billion prevented from going
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: out into the world, and he even noted in his statement.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: You know it's hard to get back, he said, sometimes
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: once the money has already gone out the door.
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  Speaker 3: I e.
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  Speaker 2: The entire two hundred and thirty billion just announced in
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: addition to all of the other fraud wasted abuse that
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: we learn about every single day on government programs. But
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: if it goes out into the world like foreign hackers,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: you're not going to get it back. So just let's
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: call two hundred and thirty billion evaporated into the ether
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty thousand million dollars related to.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: A single program. It sounds like.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: So I just just since the beginning of the Federal
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: of the Fraud Task Force that I started under the
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: President's leadership and direction. See you can give Trump credit
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: for this. How many administrations prior to the current one
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: did you hear talking about and identifying this epic fraud,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: waste and abuse and promise to do something about it,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: to actually create a task force designed to stop it
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: from happening to the benefit of every American regardless of
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: political stripe. So, if you're keeping track at home, you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: evil Orange Man's actually doing some great workout in the world,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: isn't he. Maybe treating the American taxpayer dollars like with
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: a fiduciary duty, which they should have as a matter
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: of default. From my perspective, if they can put you
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: in jail for not paying taxes, we should be able
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: to put them in jail for wasting our taxpayer dollars
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: by letting it go out to the door to fraudsters.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Jadiev Anthon has announcement. He said, just today, mister President,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: we will announce seventeen new anti fraud actions that will
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: total about a third of a billion dollars, and that's
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: added to the two hundred and thirty billion that we've
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: already uncovered. Stressing that fraud has two victims. Of course,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you the American taxpayer whose money is being stolen, then
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: of course the folks who are the ones that are
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: supposed to be receiving this aid under any given program,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: he said, So to give one concrete example, is a
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: program that's administered by Medicaid, and that program ensures that
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: low income moms and low income babies have access to
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: neonatal care. And I think most Americans probably share my view.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the great things about the United
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: States of America that if we see a baby, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: we see a young mom requiring help, We help our
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: fellow Americans. That's a good thing, he said, It's something
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: we should be proud of. And yet there's a program
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: that has defrauded moms and the babies who benefit from
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: these You've got people who've gotten rich by setting up
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: false companies that are providing false services. So who loses
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: in the equation Number one, of course the American taxpayer. Again,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: he pointed out to the two hundred and thirty billion
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: dollars in lost payments or fraudulent payments. Rather but he
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: said and pointed out the obvious. I actually think the
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: most importantly that is we've seen that program run out
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: of money. So we've seen moms and babies unable to
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: assays the healthcare that they need because the fraudsters have
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  Speaker 2: gotten rich.
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  Speaker 1: That's a disgrace.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: And until the President ordered us to stop it, no
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: one was doing anything about it. And therein is the problem,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: no one doing anything about it, And you can see
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: some Democrats out of this program we need to have.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: There are more women out there that don't have food,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: There are babies starving out there. We need to fund,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: we need to provide more funding for this problem, throwing
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: good money after bad No, I'll tell you what, how
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: about we don't need an additional two hundred and thirty
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: billion dollars to add to a program plug the holes
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: that people are using to builk the American taxpayer and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: take benefits away from those who might deserve them. You
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: might not share Jdvans's opinion that we should even have
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: a program along these lines. That's a different discussion matter point.
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  Speaker 2: But if you've got one, you better make damn well
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: sure that people can't use it and easily rip everyone off. Why, well,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the money's gonna go out the door and you won't
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: be able to get it back.
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  Speaker 1: Wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Six forty six fifty five care And you know what?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Can you just imagine in your wild to streams if
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: you had a figure, a concrete figure, and I'm talking
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: about across the entirety of government, including yes, my friends
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: in the American military and the trillion plus dollar budgets
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: that they go through. If you can't pass an audit,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: then you know there's problems going on behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Add it all together, can you imagine the figure that fraud, waste,
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  Speaker 2: and abuse would come up to six forty six right
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  Speaker 2: and I've been talking about this for years and years
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  Speaker 2: and years before you've even before it was even on
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  Speaker 2: the radio. You show up at church on a Sunday, right,
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  Speaker 2: but talking about Christian friends on this one. But I
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  Speaker 2: think any religion can make this argument. What is your
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: obligation under your faith and as a Christian?
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  Speaker 1: What is your obligation? Is your obligation to vote for
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  Speaker 1: state for this state to.
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  Speaker 2: Take over charitable your charitable obligations. I think under Christianity
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  Speaker 2: you can make a great argument that you have an
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  Speaker 2: obligation to help your fellow man. Isn't that kind of
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  Speaker 2: what Christianity's predicated on. Is it your personal obligation or
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  Speaker 2: can you offload that to the state. I always get
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  Speaker 2: it as a personal obligation in any minister of priest,
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  Speaker 2: Rabbi Imom, whoever's in the front of the room telling
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  Speaker 2: you you need to vote for a giant, government funded
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  Speaker 2: program that takes the obligation away from you, and it
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  Speaker 2: shoulders that burden on other people who may not share
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  Speaker 2: your religious philosophy. Welcome to the United States of America,
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  Speaker 2: where we do not have a theocracy. Now I know
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: this isn't a direct, you know, Christian thing. Necessarily it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: isn't labeled as Christian legislation like for example, Democrats Senate Canada,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: James Talerico is the springboard from my ranting this morning
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  Speaker 2: on this said, the Scripture requires government to guarantee health coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Get a copy of your Bible out and see if
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  Speaker 2: you can read that in there someplace. Maybe highlight the
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  Speaker 2: particular chapter and verse for me, because I've never read that.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of a Texas church crowd saying the New Testament
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: makes public health insurance option a Christian obligation. This is
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: from July twentieth footage which just went circulating over the
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  Speaker 2: weekend under the title James tell Erico unfails plan for
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  Speaker 2: Black voters anyway, Democrat arguing the country should finish the
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  Speaker 2: work of President Obama his words and pass a public
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  Speaker 2: option because healthcare is a human right. It is not
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: a privilege, he said, so he wanted to speak scripturally,
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  Speaker 2: given the given the how Jesus spent his ministry, if
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: you read our scriptures, if you read the New Testament,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: what does Jesus spend most of his time doing. It's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: not preaching, it's not teaching, it's healing, healing the sick,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: which I would observe Jesus was doing directly himself. He
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't asking the Romans to do anything about it, was he.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: He went on and Matthew twenty five scripture says that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: it's how we will be judged, and it's how we'll
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: be saved by healing the sick, feeding the hungry, by
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: welcoming the stranger, by visiting the prisoner, all of which
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: seemed to me to be an individual obligation.
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  Speaker 1: He handed over to the state.
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  Speaker 2: What do you get something that becomes well contrary, I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: would argue to even a Christian message, given how twisted
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  Speaker 2: and bent the policies and procedures are in government.
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  Speaker 1: You know a factor in.
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  Speaker 2: A little DEI off, a little bit of LGBTQ plus
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  Speaker 2: in any particular piece of legislation. Welcome to a government
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: program to take on your religious obligation. His campaign calls
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: for allowing every American regardless of age, to buy into
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Medicare through a non for profit public option, alongside drug
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: price negotiation and caps on out of pocket cost his
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: nirvana of like.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Many Christians have accused him of well distorting the faith.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Apparently he's a seminary trained kind of guy. So I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: calling his preachings blasphemous and that it rewrites salvation at
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: least rewrites the way the Gospel is written and be
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: what you should take away from it. I am no theologian,
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  Speaker 2: that's my take on it. So question for you, who
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  Speaker 2: would make this argument under your Christian obligation, we need
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  Speaker 2: a giant government program for free fill in the bland.
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  Speaker 2: If you head, as a politician, relied on the Quran
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  Speaker 2: or the principles of Islam to advance the same argument
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  Speaker 2: with people take it seriously. Well, maybe members of the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Muslim community might, but imagine you might really anger a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of the Christian people out there in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a second, we don't live in a theocracy. Why
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: are you relying on the Quran and making advance a
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  Speaker 2: giant new government program. Maybe that argument could be made
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  Speaker 2: a theologian to my most notably with regard to things
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  Speaker 2: in the Qoran. But there you have it. Pick a
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  Speaker 2: different religion and consider your own personal obligations under your
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  Speaker 2: own religion. Government can't do that work for you, And
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I suppose it would be an issue between you and
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  Speaker 2: God at the pearly gates or wherever you think you're
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: gonna end up in the afterlife. To make that argument, well,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I voted for a big government program. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 2: didn't lift a finger to help anybody during your life.
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  Speaker 2: every Monday at seven twenty to get here from the
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  Speaker 2: former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, vent his
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: spleen and maybe he'll comment on the proposal to drop
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: the city tax increase plan. Maybe the Sinsini Public Schools
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: decision perhaps tonight to drop it's tax levy.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Goodn't gon to join the program to talk about
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: that at the end of the show eight thirty with
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Steve Gooden, our legal expert, Will they or won't they
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  Speaker 2: refer to the Sincini Public Schools tax Levey get to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: the details on that just a second here, and then,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: of course it's Monday, so we're gonna hear from Money
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  Speaker 2: Monday's Brian James for a couple of segments. Before we
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: get to Steve Gooden, we'll talk about the winners and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: losers from last week's earning reports. The economy keeps on
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: pumping along despite the war and the high gas prices,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: and they are high, although with Trump's most recent announcement
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: he's not bombing. He's going to try to give settlement
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: a chance again and give piece a chance. The price
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: of oil dropped, I guess five six bucks. We'll see
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: how that is, whether or not you and I are
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: going to get a benefit from it the form of
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: our gasoline prices at some point. Plus one more with
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Brian James. Topic wise, the economy second quarter growth only
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  Speaker 2: one point five percent, which is low expert expectations. So
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: we'll see if that might be factored in later in
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  Speaker 2: the rate. Next time they FED decides to deal with
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: the rate increases or decreases or status quo as the
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  Speaker 2: case may be. That'll be at eight oh five with
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  Speaker 2: Brian James five three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Gooden. I hope you saw his op ed piece.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: It was in the July thirtieth edition of the Cincinnian
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Inquirer headline mayor aftab Provol's national profile won't fix Cincinnati
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: subheading aftab provole may fit the Democratic Party's emergency emerging
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: political movement or moment rather, but national exposure and progressive
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: rhetoric can't substitute for competent attention to the daily work
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: governing Cincinnati. Talks about pervol going on all nationwide. He's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: in national left leaning magazines, on The Daily Show, featured
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: in The Hill, self congratulatory op ed on his housing policy,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: which was published in the Hill. The Hill happens to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: be a left lean political site. I do consult it regularly,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: but it's good i'p at and maybe he'll may maybe
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: make a point or two on that at eight thirty,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: but we'll be primarily talking about this since at public
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: schools reversal, which is going to be talked about tonight now.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: In the twenty seventh last month, the Sincet Public School's
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  Speaker 2: Board approve the zero point seventy five percent earned income
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: tax levee, which will bring in reportedly seventy four million
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: dollars a year. They're facing well a budget deficit less
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: than that, but they discussed property taxes as well as
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: seven mil perhaps an eight mil property tax. Those are
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: the three options that were that were discussed in the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: since A Public School board meeting. They went with the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: earned income tax levee, but then what happened. Of course
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Republicans came out against it, but then you had the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Democrats coming out against it. County Democratic Party said, and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: then don't do that since a federation. The teachers also
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: said no to the earn income tax levee. They said
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: would disproportionately an impact working families and students with jobs.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons they shied away from doing
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: a property tax increase. Well, we're all screaming and yelling
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: about property tax increases so much so they got a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: ballot an issue out here to change the Ohio Constitution
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: to prevent the levying of property taxes at all. Maybe
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: it's a bad idea to do that, have to have Purvoll,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: speaking of which, apparently one of the board to consider
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: something lower, maybe a point two percent earned income tax.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: But in the final analysis, after they announced the earned
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: income tax levee, all the different factions came out a
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: broad bipartisan group saying Nope, nope, nope, don't do it.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: And I turned back to the article that I relied
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: on earlier this morning to kind of make the point
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: that I think this probably has more to do with
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: this isn't on cycle November election. Tax increases are less
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: likely to happen when you have more voters showing up
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: at the polls. When you have an off cycle election,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: only the most committed ideologically to whatever's on the ballot
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: others showing up to the election.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: This is a problem America has. It's his own fault.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: And one of the suggestions for Michael Reetz and his
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: op ed piece on this as well, why don't states
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: just just pass law saying you cannot have these levies
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: on anything but on cycle elections. In other words, you
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: gotta wait till November to do it so we have
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: better voter turnout. Well, it is a reasonable solution that
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: certainly could be done. But again, where does the challenge
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: come from. The challenge comes from us not bothering to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: vote in off cycle elections, thus almost guaranteeing those that
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: want tax levies to pass. They passed out their informational material.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Their people are, you know, the Teachers' Union for example,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: lots of members there and lots of families of members there,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: and they all want their tax levy to pass. They're
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: going to show up in large numbers. It makes perfect sense.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: So wait for it. I pulled the room consisting of
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Joe Strekker this morning. When do you think you're going
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: to see these levies on the ballot?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Next?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Of course, in the springtime, in an off cycle election,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: So wait for it. CPS to just keep their powder
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: dry until then and then give themselves a better opportunity
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: for this to pass. I think they saw the writing
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: on the wall, which maybe is maybe why AFTAB pro
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: ofvol has dropped Apparently the increase that he was going
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: to put on the city taxpayers proposed city income tax
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: has been withdrawn.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: May Or aftab Per of All announced his decision before
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: the deadline to place the issue on the November third ballot,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: that deadline fast approaching par ofvoll, citing economic conditions and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: affordability concerns as factors and shelving the proposal.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Humhm.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Of course, the income tax increase was to deal with
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: the long term budget challenges the city's facing. We hear
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: about that all the time. Accord to the Sinsini Business
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Girls Courier, city officials determined that pursuing a tax increase
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: at this time could create additional pressure on residents already
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: facing high living costs.
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  Speaker 4: Bill.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Of course, the mayor didn't say that we weren't still
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: facing long term financial challenges. He said, well, those still exist,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: including maintaining infrastructure, finding public safeties or funding public safety services,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: and supporting neighborhood investments whatever that happens to be. Business
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: groups apparently also express concerns about increasing local taxes while
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: the regional economy is dealing with the post pandemic changes
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: and workforce challenges. I think that means maybe fewer taxpayer
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: dollars to go around. Also, critics pointing out that this
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: makes city of Cincinnati less marketable. We have competition out
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: there in the world. We want business and industry and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: individuals to move into the City of Cincinnati. Question what's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: more likely to bring business and industry and residents into
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati higher taxes or lower ones?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: We should have this debate more often when our politicians
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: start asking for more money out of our pocket. It's
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: wait a second. If the economic conditions are such that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: taking money from people will harm them in some way
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: because they'll have less disposable income in their pocket, why
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: isn't that the case all the time? And I love
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: this one every time I see it. It just it
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: breaks my heart and makes me chuckle. At the same time,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: local governments throughout the state continue to evaluate funding strategies
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: ready as federal pandemic era assistance programs expire.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: What year is it?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: How many times do we have to read that federal
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: assistance because of COVID nineteen's going away or has gone away,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: and therefore we've got to patch our budget. What in
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: God's green earth were they doing before COVID came around
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: and trillions of dollars flowed out of the federal government. Right,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I suppose to some measure working within their means. But
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: also if you look at the budgets and the giant holes,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of cities dug themselves over the years, and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: I'll suggest mostly Democrat run cities like the City of Cincinnati.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: They weren't living within their means pre COVID. They did
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: fail to prioritize and left existing infrastructure to crumble in
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: favor of I don't know, skateboard parks or building new
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: stuff and things that of course is going to have
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: to be maintained on a going forward basis, Right, Yeah,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I know, if you build it, you must maintain it.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: That COVID money, what do we do without it? Anyway,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Steve Gun's gonna be talking about the CPS levy. Like
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I said, it's only a matter of time. Give it
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: six months, maybe seven months. I think you'll have an
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: opportunity to vote yeah or nay, probably on both of
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: these tax increases. Former Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Christopher Smith, and welcome back to the program, sir.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I love having you on my friend brother.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on. And you know, I take
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: a deep breath sometimes before I start, you know.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: My heart, my heart, Brian really.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Goes out to that spectrum worker who was shot Thursday morning,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: five am in Avondale. And there's so many different moving
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: parts to it. Right, we got a person who's at work.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: Doing what he's supposed to do.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: My understanding is that he was there with a partner
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: and the partner had to go back and get some
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: supplies and that's when he was robbed. He totally complied,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Brian with the robber who had the gun on him,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: and gave him and did everything anybody could do, and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: the person still shot him. And I can't even imagine
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: their weekend, meaning this happened Thursday morning. He's still in
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: the hospital, he's still I'm sure he's had a number
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: of surgeries. I can see his whole family sitting in
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: the waiting area, coffee breaks, everybody around the clock, and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: nobody understands where their loved one was doing the right
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: thing in the right place and somebody just walks up
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: and pulls a gun on them and shoots them and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: robs them. And what I'm going to say about this, Brian,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: I appreciate Spectrum. In my love goes out to the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Spectrum family and the twenty five thousand dollars that they
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: put up, and I hope that and I pray that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: the community cooperates. But I never understand Brian in these
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: crisis situations why we don't hear from the mayor. And
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: I think people think sometimes when I'm talking, like I'm
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: picking on him, Like this is not a game. These
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: are life and death decisions and things that are happening
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: in our community. And the crime is spreading, whether it's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Mount Adams or whether it's you know, places like Avandale,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: or whether it's places like Madisonville, the crime is spreading.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: And I feel like the mayor and members of council
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: are accent and when these things happen, I feel like
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: they just say crime is down, and it's my perception
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: or it's your perception, it's not really our reality. And
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: then over the weekend we have five people shot, two
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: in the Westwood area, three in Cummingsville, and the three
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: shot in Cummingsville. From everything that I'm reading, it was
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: a gun battle, like people are running down the street
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: shooting at people. A real blessing that more people didn't
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: die in Cummingsvield, But to say three people shot Brian,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: if it were four, it's my understanding that the FBI
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: would have defined that as a mass shooting. And so
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what the leadership in our
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: city are doing as I feel like we continue to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: take steps closer and closer to places like Chicago and Detroit.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess, in response to your concern about after
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: approvol not saying a word about it, when people like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: the guy got shot in the neck, you think that
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: will be a good opportunity for him to come out
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: and talk about, you know, community safety, what they are
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: doing to deal with the violence in the city, et cetera.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: But I have a feeling he probably didn't do it
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: because he would be out there all the time having
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: to respond to every single instance when someone gets murdered
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: by some crazy in the city of Cincinnati. I mean
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: that he always talk about all the time, and if
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: he didn't address, you know, all murders in the city,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: then he'd be you know, blamed for picking and choosing. Well,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: you mentioned that the spectrum God, but you didn't talk
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: about Phil and the blank the next guy down the show.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: He's trying to avoid the whole thing. Plus it brings
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: the focus on crime. A mayor speaking of a crime,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe we've got a problem with crime in
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: the city since Nathan Mayor's coming out and talking about it.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: He doesn't like those optics. I mean, he's just basically
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: hiding from it by not saying anything. The problem doesn't exist, right,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: and that's really the mo o the city and council
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: has been doing now for a long time.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right about that. But I thought
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: the Spectrum shooting on Thursday morning at five am was
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: really out of bounds. And I'm going to say something
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: to take a risk and say it, like, if you've
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: got two drug dealers and they're shooting at each other,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: that is horrible, fighting over money, drug turf, whatever their
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: language is. And that's horrible to have a worker who
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with any of that. They're just
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: in a neighborhood doing their job, right, They're trying to
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: restore cable service to a community. To have somebody drive
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: up in a mask and pull a gun on and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: shoot them in the neck, right like that to me,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: says Okay, Mayor, this is outside the boundary of all
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: this other stuff we're talking.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: About plausible motive VIC. There's no plausible justification. I mean,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: even if if the justification still makes the act criminal,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: at least you can say, well, you know what, I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: kind of understand, going back to your point of a
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: gang turf or something, I kind of understand these guys
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: are rival gang men. They have a reason, like members
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: in combat or like people in combat, to shoot at
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: each other or kill each other because they have a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: turf war on their hands. A guy doing his damn
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: job working for Spectrum has no gripe, he has no
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: beef with society. He's doing society a favor by coming
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: to work and doing his job and fixing people's cable.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Why in the hell did he get shot? You can't
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: come up with a justification for that. Was he sleeping
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: with the murderer's wife or something? Then you could say, Okay,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I kind of understand that was the conduct still unlawful,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: illegal and criminal, Yes it was. But you know what,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: if somebody was sleeping with my wife, I might want
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: to shoot him too. That's different, isn't it.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm saying to you as my friend that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: if I were the mayor and a worker, because that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: could be one of your city workers. Now, that could
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: be that could be another person like you know, coming
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: to the community to do something. I'm talking about, like
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: a guy getting up every day going to work. He's
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: not supposed to get shot. And that's why I think
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: this is so far out of the the out of
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: the out of the stratosphere on crime. And now in
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: this segment by saying to you, Brian that this is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: why I think he didn't want to say anything about it,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: because it undermines his narrative that crime is down and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: that everybody is safe. You know, if if if victims
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: now that are being shot who have nothing to do
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: with drugs, that are nothing to do with with crime
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: at any level, are now being shot because they're showing
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: up with the neighbors to do their job, that is
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: a different level of crime. And I just don't think
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: he wanted to highlight it because it undermines his narrative
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: that crime is down in Cincinnati and it just isn't.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've taken away the opportunity for choice now
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: with a with a with one of my listeners in
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: the audience that I'm never going to go downtown. I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: don't want to face the potential for violence. I can
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: eat at a restaurant elsewhere. I don't need to go
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: to a ballgame fight. You have that option to not
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: go downtown. If you work for Spectrum, there's going to
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: be a job, but then the city limits that you're
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: going to have to do. And here's where you run
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: headlong into the problem you're perceiving, Christopher. People are forced
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: under circumstances to be there. It's out of their hands
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: that they have to go into a violent area.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Now and now, Brian, they're going to those areas with
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: a detail, meaning Spectrum has requested details for their workers
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: in specific areas. And so I don't blame Spectrum. How
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: would you feel if you were the CEO and one
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: of your workers just got shot in the net doing
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: their job. You're gonna you can't tell the other families, Well,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: let me send another worker in there without having some
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: type of armed guard.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: And how many businesses are there that operate in the
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati, who also, given that they're in the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: same circumstances, could also request a special detail to go
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: with them. How many cops do you havet Christopher, don't
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: go away more with Christopher Smithman. After I mentioned you've
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: got plenty of time, I'm giving your heads up.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Noticed ship Cares the talk station thirty two. If if you've
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: have ker City talk station, it's Monday.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: We're in the middle of the conversation with the former
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: vice mayor of the city since sank Christopher's smitheman at
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: vote Smithmen's where you find them on X Christopher Smithman,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: let's continue.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: What else is on your mind?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: I think what's interesting and then I'm gonna pivot to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: another subject Brian Thomas, is that the details that the
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: city will be providing Spectrum, but they that they haven't
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: even really you know, announced that they're doing at any level.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: It'll be interesting do they provide that protection for the
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: worker if they're in Hyde Park. Someone just just communicated
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: that to me on social media, meaning if they go
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: to Hyde Park orm outlookout to do work they do,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: they feel they need to have a detail there, So
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting where Spectrum is believing they need to
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: detail and in that in that conversation, which I don't
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: believe it's it's reality, but some would say that's racist,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: meaning the notion that they're going to follow the crime
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: pattern and go I think my workers at four o'clock
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: in the morning in this location are unsafe in this location.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think they. I think they are safe. What
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: does that mean?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: How is relying on statistics racism? Christopher? If you are
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: statistically more likely to be a victim of a crime
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: in certain neighborhoods in the city of Cincinnati and less
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: likely to be a victim in other neighborhoods, I would
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: think that the statistical realities would suggest you need maybe
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: a police presence where you're more likely to be a
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: victim of a crime. That's not racism, is just working
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: the data into the logical analysis you have to do
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: because of the finite amount of police resources we have
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: to go around.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Correct and Brian. On top of that, if you're very wealthy,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: you and I know that they roll using slang with
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: armed guards everywhere. They have big fences, they have big guards,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: they have arm guards around them. And it's always interesting
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: to hear the West Coast, you know, superstars, or the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: East Coast superstars, you know, telling everybody about how we
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: should be dealing with guns. And then you see them
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: walking and they're surrounded by five or seven people, you
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: can't even get to them, and everybody has a gun
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: around them. So they're living in this fantasy world. But
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: the reality of it is the spectrum worker on Thursday
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: morning could not was not afforded with that, and I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: believe that they will be now. As I switched topics, man,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: I saw some of the Fauci hearings, and there's so
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: many moving parts to it where you have had an
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: entire businesses, not just in Ohio but across our fifty
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: states that lost everything, meaning those businesses don't exist anymore
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: because of the decisions Faucis made and what he's saying
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: and how he was advising. If you're the public policymaker,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: meaning I'm not a doctor, let's just say I am
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: a mayor and I'm listening to what my expert physician
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: is telling me. You're listening and taking that advice. That's
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: what fout she was doing, and that solo advice really
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: stopped the entire economy and businesses lost everything. There were
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: loved ones who died alone, grandparents and family members who
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: were married sixty five seventy years and their loved one
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: died in a hospital room, all by themselves really for nothing,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: because now we know that a lot of the information,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: not all of it Brian Thomas, Right, but a lot
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: of the information that fault She put out wasn't accurate.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: And that is what is so scary. We saw an
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: overreach of our government in such a way. This scares
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  Speaker 3: libertarians to death right because they're saying, this is what
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  Speaker 3: bothers me about the strong arming of a government that
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: we've put one person in charge who says he was
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  Speaker 3: a medical doctor, who says he was following the science,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: and now we know that there were terrible decisions that
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: impacted our children. Our children in Ohio still are not
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: getting over schools being closed for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, that's correct.
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  Speaker 2: Let's pause. We're out of time in the segment. We'll
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  Speaker 2: ring Christopher back for more words, maybe on that topic
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: or more stick around. I want to mention Zimmer heating
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: and cooling but insuring Cincinnati homes safe, efficient and comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations the talk station seven here at fifty five karsee
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  Speaker 2: the talk station Brian Thomas with Christopher Smitheman doing any
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  Speaker 2: smither van at vote Smitheman wins. Where you find Christopher
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  Speaker 2: on acts, Christopher, what else are we going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Look, look, look, Brian, I'm going to address this again,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna be a little more serious and maybe
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: have some fun with it too. But everybody, I feel like,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: runs to the corner and call everybody now a racist.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: If you don't agree with me, if you have a
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: different perspective than I have, you're just fundamentally a racist,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: or you're an uncle tom. So people say, Smitherman, this
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: is what you are right because I say things and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: I speak out with which I think are common sense
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: things like I support cops, or you know, I support
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: the flag, or you know, I think that this this
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: most recent data every that the city is arguing about
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  Speaker 3: it depicts every police officer in Cincinnati as a racist
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: because they're stopping a car and the and the person
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: that they're stopping happens to be a black American. Somebody
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  Speaker 3: has to get out of your man and speak truth
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  Speaker 3: to this power because it is getting so out of control.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: So it's like like every that were racist, Racism is real,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Sexism is real, right, and so this notion that if
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  Speaker 3: I disagree with you about a position that fundamentally now
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  Speaker 3: means I'm racist is insane. And I just think that
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: the word is being tossed around so much right now, Brian,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: that it's being watered down. People don't believe it. Nobody,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: It makes no sense. It's like a person says there's firefirefire,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: and nobody believes anymore there's a fire because there's no
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: common sense around it anymore. Brian Thomas, and I'm trying
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: to warn people that this overuse of this word is
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: really undermining our American culture in a big way. And
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: it's the And you hear the socialists who are running
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: tomorrow in the primaries, whether it's Michigan or whether it's Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 3: they're really calling the entire country racist. You listen to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: what they're saying. They're saying a lot of things. They
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: want to debunk the Supreme Court. They don't want any police,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: they want to abolish the police. Listen to me, to
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: your listening audience and somebody who might be tuning in
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: for the first time, what I'm saying is true. Those
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: socialists are saying they want to abolish the police departments
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: across country and so but they're also saying that our
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: country fundamentally that they're racist, and these people are being elected.
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  Speaker 3: Brian Tarmin, it is really scary to me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think the problem with this claim of
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  Speaker 2: racism illustrated by something. I've been in a tearn since
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  Speaker 2: we found out there was fraud in Minnesota. Although there
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: have been millions of illustrations the same thing over time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it isn't racism just because someone says it is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want my taxpayers stolen by fraudsters. I don't
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: care what color, religion, race. I don't care if they
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  Speaker 2: came from blank and remulac the planet from Star Trek.
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  Speaker 2: If they stole from us, the collective American taxpayer, then
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  Speaker 2: they deserve to be held accountable, prosecuted, and put in jail.
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  Speaker 2: Now is it racism because the fraudsters in Minneapolis, for example,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: happened to be members of the Somali community, not completely,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: but most of which. That's what the left was saying,
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  Speaker 2: it's racism to look into the fraud that's going on
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: because well, there's Somali community fraud. Well, if it was
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  Speaker 2: the Irish, or the Italians, or the German or anybody,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter anybody. If it's just American citizens, engaging
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: in organized crime, then we go after I mean, nobody
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  Speaker 2: would scream racism, but oh well, just because it happens
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: to be members of the Samali community, that turns a
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  Speaker 2: criminal investigation into an act of racism. Bull crap, says
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 3: It is, Brian Thomas. It is really just deflection. But
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: they're using racism as deflection in very serious situations. Because
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: what you're saying here here is that I'm going after crime.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: I'm following the crime. I'm not following the race or
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: the gender of the person. I'm just following the crime exactly.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: So you took a billion dollars, I'm going to put
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  Speaker 3: you in jail. Oh no, I can't do that. You're
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  Speaker 3: Somalian and you're just targeting me. No, you stole a billion, Yeah,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: you stole a billion dollars. And that is a problem.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's so fundamentally wrong with this argument and why
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: I raised it. And the last point Brian Thomas is
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: this young lady, Sophie. I think it's Cunningham. I don't
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  Speaker 3: follow sports, but she's decided to weigh in on this
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: transgender conversation. Every time I talk about it. I support
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  Speaker 3: the transgender community. I support the LGBTQ plus community. I
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  Speaker 3: have a son who is gay. I don't have to
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  Speaker 3: put my record down. I went to the school for
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  Speaker 3: Creative and Performing arts. That is not the discussion.
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  Speaker 1: This is the.
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  Speaker 3: Extreme parts of the left. People. Eighty to ninety percent
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  Speaker 3: of Americans say that men should not compete against girls
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  Speaker 3: or women in sports. It's unfair. Title nine is real.
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  Speaker 3: To hear democrats out here undermining Title nine mean they
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  Speaker 3: fall on the sword on Title nine and now here
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  Speaker 3: they are saying, I want to create an environment for
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  Speaker 3: girl girls in our country and women in our country
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  Speaker 3: that are unfair. This young lady, Sophie Cunningham, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know her, I don't follow sports, but I'm glad that
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  Speaker 3: she's weighing in on it. And I would tell men
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  Speaker 3: in sports they should be weighing in on it. They
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  Speaker 3: should be looking out for their moms, their aunties, their cousins,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: their nieces, their family members. They should be out here.
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  Speaker 3: Men should be lending a voice to saying this is
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  Speaker 3: not about transgender We support transgender people. What we are
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  Speaker 3: saying here is it is unfair to have them competing
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  Speaker 3: against girls and women in sports and that's just common sense.
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  Speaker 3: Why do I have to be anti gay to say
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  Speaker 3: I don't support this part?
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  Speaker 1: It's not well.
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  Speaker 2: And you know I'm going to quickly defend, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the defend the gay lesbian community who got sucked into
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: the whole component of transgenderism. Transgenders does not identify a
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  Speaker 2: person's sexual preferences gay lesbian does Christopher, If you could
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  Speaker 2: be a if you're a transgender, if you're a guy
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  Speaker 2: who claims to be a woman, I am a woman. Now,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you want to sleep with men. It
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: just means that you declare yourself to be a member
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  Speaker 2: of the opposite sex. That's why we've seen transgender women
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  Speaker 2: who are men who are claiming to be women in
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: women's facilities, molesting women. We've heard of transgender prisoners who
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: end up in female prisons raping the women in the
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  Speaker 2: cells with them. Apparently they have a desire for the
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: opposite sex, or in their mind, the same sex.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a transgender woman, which means you're a genetically male,
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  Speaker 2: a genetically male human being, does that mean you're a
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  Speaker 2: lesbian if you still like having sex with women. Work
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  Speaker 2: that one out for me. Christopher. I'm confused, But I
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  Speaker 2: can live in a world like you. You say you
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  Speaker 2: support the LGBTQ plus AAA whatever community.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a libertarian, which means I can live in a
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  Speaker 2: world with whatever you want to be. Just don't tell
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  Speaker 2: me that I've got to buy into your philosophy. That
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't make me transgender or transphobic. A'm rather transphobic. This
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  Speaker 2: makes me believe in X.
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  Speaker 1: And Y chromosomes, period, scientific reality.
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  Speaker 3: And why I'm discussing it for a lot of reasons.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching these national protests which I'm sure will eventually
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  Speaker 3: come to our state of you know, protesting this young athlete,
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  Speaker 3: female athlete who took a position on it. But it
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  Speaker 3: will also be a part of the governor's race, meaning
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  Speaker 3: here we've got Vivek running for governor. I don't want
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  Speaker 3: a governor who will undermine Title nine. I don't want
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  Speaker 3: a governor that will say I'm going to create more
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  Speaker 3: unsafe environments or unfair athletic situations for girls and for
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  Speaker 3: women in sports in Ohio. That doesn't mean that I'm
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  Speaker 3: anti traans.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: I keep saying that because if somebody is tuning in,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want them to say, oh, man, I'm listening
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  Speaker 3: to this person, and you know, I went to the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: School for Creative and Performing Arts and I've been fighting
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: for gay rights before most people were even alive. Who
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  Speaker 3: might be listening to this. The point that we're making
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  Speaker 3: is Title nine is real and that this country fought
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  Speaker 3: for Title nine, and so why would we undermine safe
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  Speaker 3: places for girls and women to compete. I don't get
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  Speaker 3: this discussion. It's a common sense thing. I think eighty
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  Speaker 3: or ninety percent of Americans agree with it. But it
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  Speaker 3: is on the ballot in Ohio, and the vek Ramaswami,
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  Speaker 3: who is running right, would not undermine Title nine, and
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  Speaker 3: I believe the other candidate would. That is a serious
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  Speaker 3: discussion that we have to have as we go into
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  Speaker 3: this gubernatorial race because I do believe Brian Thomas. It
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  Speaker 3: is on the governor's ballot, and that's one of the
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: reasons I continue to support the vek Rama Swami because
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  Speaker 3: I want common sense. I don't want to wake up
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  Speaker 3: and see the governor saying I'm undermining Title nine.
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  Speaker 2: And how well of your daughter have done since she
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  Speaker 2: was a female swimmer, a girl swimmer on the girls
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  Speaker 2: swim team. If she had to compete against guys, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it.
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  Speaker 3: Would be it would have been very detrimental and she
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  Speaker 3: would not have she would not have been in position
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  Speaker 3: to most likely, because it's all about timing. You are
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: a swimmer, a great swimmer, you understand it. But the
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  Speaker 3: scholarships and those things, those conversations most likely would not
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: have happened. It creates an unfair advantage, Brian, and I
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: think that we've got to have men who are willing
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: to speak truth to power here on this issue, and
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: those who are on the other side of this, Brian Thomas,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: their position will not age will Why because men will
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: be men and women will be women for the next
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: two thousand, five thousand years. That's not excuse me, that
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  Speaker 3: is not going to change. So the issue here is
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  Speaker 3: that are we going to protect girls and women or not.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: I don't understand the protests that are happening right now,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: and I wanted to take the risk to lend my voice.
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  Speaker 4: And be clear here.
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  Speaker 3: Girls deserve safe places, Brian Thomas to play sports. You're
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  Speaker 3: not a racist. I'm not an uncle Tom. And at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the day, we just want common sense
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  Speaker 3: policies coming from our elected officials.
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  Speaker 7: That's all.
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  Speaker 3: We're looking for safe environments where people like spectrum workers
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: are not being shot and being robbed in our neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: Don't sweat at Christopher. This someone always going to criticize
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: your point of view, but remember you are on the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: right side of this one, at least in terms of
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: the vast majority of people in this country. They're with
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  Speaker 2: you one hundred percent, you know, six to fifty five
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  Speaker 2: kar CD Talk Station. Very happy Monday to you, Ry Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Always pleased to hit this moment in time in the
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  Speaker 2: morning show because it's time for money Monday with Brian
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  Speaker 2: James all or financial loans amount for some conversation topics
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  Speaker 2: this morning and are at this time every week and
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: we get them every week. And welcome back, Brian. It's
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  Speaker 2: always a pleasure to have you on. I hope you
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  Speaker 2: had a wonderful weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I did, Miss Thomas. Hope you did as well.
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  Speaker 1: I did, Thank you very much. Pleased about that. All right?
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  Speaker 2: Guess we got earnings reports last week, winners and losers.
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  Speaker 2: Where are we on this? Because I checked the futures
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: market this morning, we are.
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  Speaker 4: Looking right now. Look look him pretty good to me.
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  Speaker 4: Quite on us because we are seeing some things that
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: are quite positively, quite honest. So big takeaway from that
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  Speaker 4: from last week's earnings report is Wall Street has become
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: a lot more selective about AI. A year ago, company
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: could come out with a huge AI spending plan, the
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: stock might go up just because investors assumed it was
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: keeping up. But now we're going a little more challenging.
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  Speaker 4: We're asking tougher questions. You know, show me where that
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: revenue is, where's it coming from, where's the demand, and
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: show me when spending becomes profitable. And this is most
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: impactful directly with Amazon and Microsoft. So Amazon came out
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: with a real strong quarter, sales up about twenty percent
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: to two hundred billion dollars. And Amazon Web Services that's
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: their cloud computing business that every now and then it
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: goes down and we have all those weird headlines all
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: day long because a lot of stuff breaks for your
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: average person and we all get reminded of exactly how
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: big Amazon is. But revenue from the cloud business grew
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: about thirty seven percent. That's the fastest Amazon has seen
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: there in about four years. And that's important because of
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: so much that's a huge part of Amazon's profit They're
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 4: a long way from being a bookstore, you know, back
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: in the day. Microsoft another clear winner. June quarter revenue
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: rose about eighteen percent to ninety billion dollars. Their cloud
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: business grew about thirty nine percent. So again, all these
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: cloud headlines, of course, are just more and more evidence
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: of how much how important that part of the technology
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: world is to us, and it definitely plays a role
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: with all these data centers we keep talking about, good, bad,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: and ugly with the growth of AI, we would completely
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: anticipate that to continue. So some good headlines. So far,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: so far, so good.
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  Speaker 2: It does sound good, Brian, I agree with you completely
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  Speaker 2: on that, because it sounds like people are making logical
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: and reasonable and business related decisions when it comes to
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: where they're going to invest. I mean, you don't get
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: I guess massive bubbles when well, you don't get massive
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: bubbles bursting and people make prudent decisions and don't pump
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: up stocks and aren't going to ever perform right, I mean,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: isn't this like a return to normal trading or something?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's a great insight there,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: because of you know that we do tend to get
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: too excited about things. Is when there are good headlines, right,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: we always have to take a breath and realize that,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: you know, things aren't going to ever be perfect, and
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: it is very easy to we go both ways. We
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: overreact in both directions, Brian. We assume the world is
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: going to end when the bad times happen, and we
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: also tend to assume that nothing bad is ever going
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: to happen again. I usually know that when we've gotten
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: a little too far over our skis when I start
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: getting questions from people about, Hey, how can I find
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: more money in my situation to throw at the market.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe I should take out a home equity line of credit,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: or maybe we should sell this car or something like that.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: Haven't heard that lately. There's still a little more trepidation,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: and I think that's a lot more driven by politics
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: than anything else. But yeah, you're right. I mean, we
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: do tend to get a little two wound up about things,
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  Speaker 4: all right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I just was thinking about the Internet
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: bubble that burst, and everybody that came out with an
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: Internet site, it was all brand new, and oh my god,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: every one of them is going to make gazillions of dollars.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: I think pets dot com was one of the great
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: illustrations of colossal failure. But just because it was new,
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  Speaker 2: and just because they launched a site and it had
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: a cool name or something, people would pump gazillions of
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: dollars and do it only to lose it all. So
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: those were not prudent decisions. It was just a knee
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: jerk reaction because oh, Internet, I'm gonna make money.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: That sounds to me like more prudence has been factored
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: in the situation now with AI, yes, certain that we.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: Will eventually find a way to get irresponsible with it,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: because that's what we do. So I also remember back
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: in those days you were talking thirty years ago. That's
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: when I first entered this industry in the late nineties,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: and I remember all of the you know, all the
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: different products that came out touting the Internet, and it
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: was basically they were all pre packaged portfolios of all
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: the hot sexy names of the Internet, you know, the
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: Yahoos of theworld, pets dot Com, all those things. They
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: would come out in unit investment trusts, which are kind
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: of an antiquated sort of kind of like a limited
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: mutual fund structure, that kind of thing. But those wholesalers
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: made the rounds of all the banks and all the
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: financial institutions, and they had golf balls for us. They
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: had baggels and anything you wanted so that we would
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: go sell the internet, blowbody blo whatever fund because that's
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: just what people would buy. What people would buy and
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: what is a prudent decision is are two very very
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: different things.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'm just going to wonder how long
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: it's going to take for this AI thing to sort
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: of sort out. Obviously you mentioned some of the bigger
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: players and how well they're doing. It seems to me
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: they're going to ultimately become the predominant force in artificial
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: intelligence and they're going to ultimately win the game. Will
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: there be just a handful of major AI players because
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: the complexity of AI is often lost on me, no
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: computer expert of my but I know there can be
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: different countries of the CCP versus the United States. We've
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: got a better system over there, they say, we have
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: a better system, whatever, power usage, all these different things
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: go into these into determining who's going to ultimately come
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: out on top. But down the road, do you see multiple,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: many full players or do you see this thing being
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: a shakeout or only did the couple of strongest survive?
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Do we lose him? Apparently we did. I guess we'll
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: have to take an early break. See if you can
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: find Brian. What is he there?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: Brian microphone disappeared for a minute.
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  Speaker 5: There.
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  Speaker 4: I was talking and you weren't listening. I guess talking
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: speaking of technology. Maybe we need some audio hardware companies
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: to step to the four and be profitable.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: I heard media to the rescue. I'm sorry, go ahead,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: Brian here The answer to that to my how many
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: players in the final analysis will emerge on this will
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: be a huge industry filled with many or are we
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: going to look at a couple down the road?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: So so my thought there is eventually we're going to
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: settle down to right now, we're in the sexy build
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: the infrastructure part.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: So, I was talking about the Internet earlier. Then there
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: was a mutual fund called the Internet Tollkeeper Fund, and
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: it was all those companies that were supposedly going to
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: be the backbone of the Internet. And this time around,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: that's what we're seeing. You're hearing about the data centers
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: being built, We're hearing mostly about infrastructure. We are not
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: yet hearing all we are a little bit but where
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: the focus is not yet on what is being done
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: with AI. We are simply building it right now, so
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: we need all these data centers we need. And again
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: that's a whole other topic. Right Whether you want it
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: in your backyard is different from whether it's going to
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: happen somewhere. So right now, the sexy companies are the
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: ones building the infrastructure. Again, back in the day we
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: talked about fiber optic. Who the last time you cared
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: about fiber optic cables, Well, that was a big sexy
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: topic twenty some years ago when we were building the
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: backbone of the internet. So right now we're building the
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: backbone of AI. That's going to be all the major
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: players in hardware and all that technology because there are
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: massive barriers to entry. What we have not yet heard
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: about is the huge wave, I'm talking bigger than what
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: we've gotten so far, the huge wave of companies that
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: do something entirely different than technology, but are using technology
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: in their day to day operations. That's what's coming, That's
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: what the market is anticipating and what is driven it
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: for the last couple of years.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, let's pause a little bit are in this
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: segment because we'll talk about the economy doing pretty well
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: in spite of yes war, even though we've seen to
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: be on yet another pause high gas prices obviously. Then
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: also we'll talk about with Brian James, the second quarter
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: economic growth came in a little below what experts were predicting.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Don't go away more with money, mondays, Brian James and
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: I get to mention fast and pro roofing and I
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: love being eight eighteen I fifty five KERCD talk station
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: Happy Monday. Were at Steve Gooden, our legal expert on
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: in the next segment, talking about the Cincinni Public school
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: tax levy, which looks like it may be going away.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: A lot of alarm bells going on that one. In
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: the meantime from all our financial Brian James talking about
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: well investing and how to get returned on investment and
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: trying to get you a plan for your retirement. That's
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: what financial planners do. The economy still doing pretty well
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: in spite of the war. Brian James, you mentioned gas
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: prices in the topic. I paid five dollars and thirty
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: some odd cents the other day. It was premium. I
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: know but I think that's the most I've perhaps ever
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: paid for gasoline. I couldn't recall a time when I
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: paid more. But I'm hoping at some point we get relief.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: I know that the price of oil per barrel it
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: went down because of the announcement from Trump about maybe
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: entering into some sort of settlement talks and not bomb
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: right away. Five dollars down after that announcement somewhere in there. So,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: but we'll never see the relief at the pump for ages,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: it seems, Brian James. What's going on with the economic outlook?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: Well, what's going on there is capitalism, Brian Thomas. So
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: whenever we can squeeze out just a little more profit
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: margin and blame it on inflation or blame it on
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: headlines that are beyond our control, then most most companies
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: are going to do it.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: At the end of the day.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: As you know, I like to say, where's the United
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: States of profit margin? And so I wouldn't anticipate, you know,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: these very brief swings. Right we got a good headline
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: that the war might wind down, might start winding down soon,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: that could be completely Remember we had a ceasefire not
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: that long ago, too, that did.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: How many so on again, off again, washed Ron's repeat.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: I was talking about that this morning, and you know,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump says it sounds like really good developments. And
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: then you read the quotes from the Iranian official, They're like,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: we don't know what the hell he's talking about.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that phone call never occurred, and yeah, so you
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: got to take everything with very large greens of salt.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you're right, and I have that same you know,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: quote unquote personal best recently too. I have one car
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: that I love that demands premium gas too, and I
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: cringe every time, but I went over five myself with
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: I think the first time in my life there. So
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: that national average is about four dollars and ten cents
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: a gallon. And obviously the longer you're commute, the larger
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: the vehicle and the more drivers you have in the house.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm living that dream, by the way, I got
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: five of us in the car, you know at this point.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: So the more expensive that gets triple A of course
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: is citing higher crew prices and of course global instability
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: and so forth, and that doesn't really hit the American
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: economy the way it did in the seventies or the
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: early two thousands to your point earlier, we're getting we're
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: getting these we're getting hammered at the gas pump. But
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 4: the economy still came up about one and a half
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: percent or so, you know, which is anemic, but it's
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: still it's still positive. So it's not it doesn't have
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: the drag that it used to say in the seventies,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: because we are now our own major energy producer. We're
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: an oil and energy exporter at this point, which I
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: know it sounds weird to say from people who grew
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: up being worried about the Middle East and OPEK and
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: all that, But with the technology advances in fracking and
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: then when where we found oil and shale, we are
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: our own source of energy. Not to say that so
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: the impact of the economy comes from the fact that
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: our customers, the companies and countries we want to sell
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 4: to themselves, are suffering because they are still dependent on
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: OPEC in the Middle East. So everything's connected to everything,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: no matter how we want to phrase.
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  Speaker 2: That, it really is, and I imagine much in the
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: same way we found additional and vast resources of additional
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: oil for our own benefit now and then became the
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: global producer of oil the largest. I imagine there's a
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: lot of different areas in the world they have untapped
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: vast reserves similar to what we found, they just won't
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: look for it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I am no geologist by any stretch of the matter,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: but I am. My understanding is everything we found in
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: shale is very, very very much localized to the North
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: American market. We just don't have shale in other parts
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: of the country, of other parts of the world. So yeah,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: they may find it elsewhere, but they're not going to
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: be able to rely on the technology that we've built
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: because they simply don't have that set up underneath them.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough, and no geologists am I either, And I
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: don't even suggest I play one on radio. It's just that,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: you know, technological advances over the years. Oh and parenthetically,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: for those folks who want a refresher on why capitalism
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: is so great, reed John Steele Gordon's a brief history
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: of wealth creation and all the different major milestones we've
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: gone through over the course of history which resulted in
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: vast creation of vast quantities of wealth, which then were
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: invested to create even greater vast quantities of wealth. It's
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: sort of a rejection of what socialists want and how
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: they are blind to the realities of all that. But
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: pivoting back over, since the Fed just decided to keep
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: maintain the status quo on rates with the economic growth
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: in the second quarter only one point five percent, did
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: that figure? Did they have that figure when reaching their
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: conclusions on interest rates, because it sounds to me, with
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: the the growth rate coming in below expectations, that's kind
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: of a suggestion maybe they could have lowered the rate
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, Well, you would say, but at the same time,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: we've got inflation. Inflation is still a problem, and it's
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: actually ticked up somewhat recently, so that flies right in
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: the face of the goal of lowering interest rates because
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: we could simply make inflation worse. So this is going
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: to be a kind of chicken or the egg scenario
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: where which problem do we target first? Do we want
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: to focus on the slowing growth that we have, which
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: again is still growth. We're not in a recession, it
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: doesn't look like that's, you know, on the horizon at
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: this point. Or do we want to focus on the
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: the pesky problem of inflation, which has been stuck in
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: the mud around three percent really for the past three
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: or four years and even a little bit higher than that.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think Chairman Worsh would very very
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: much like to do what his boss wants him to do,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: what his boss campaigned on, which is lower interestrates. But
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: at the same time, he knows his boss is not
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: focused on inflation to the extent that Kevin Worsh himself
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: has to be as the leader of the Federal Reserve.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to watch him Tapdan through that.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: It will.
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  Speaker 2: And if you had to identify the primary driver of inflation,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: because it seems to me that a lot of the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: issues that we dealt with in COVID, you know, supply
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: chain issues, disruptions and all that created scarcity, which of
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: course created increase in prices. We of course had the
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: bird flu and the eggs went through the roof, and
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: we still have expensive beef because the cattle hasn't rebounded
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: and we're it's still in an all time low of
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: herds of cattle. But you know, each one sort of
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: has its own explanation. But if you had to look
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: at the inflationary realities we're facing collectively, is it the
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: price of gasoline or fuel that is the primary driver.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: Where are we in terms of what's causing this inflation?
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so one hundred percent energy. So in the
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: latest June CPI data, over and overall inflation came out
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: at three and a half percent. Energy up almost sixteen
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: percent year over year. Gas itself was up twenty six
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 4: percent core inflation, which excludes food and energy. And again
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: people hate that core inflation number because wirewigs including food
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: and energy. Well this is why, right, so we can
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: identify core inflation was only up two point six percent.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: If you take out the crazy things, then it's normal.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: But if we put in those things, because like you
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: just said, food and energy are very volatile because as
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: soon as we have a war, energy goes through the roof,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: and we have eggs that spike because of bird flu
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: which we can't predict. So that makes those things extremely volatile.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: That's what's driving those food and energy prices are driving
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 4: inflation overall.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Well, and you just provided the best explanation I've ever
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: got for why we don't include those when we're talking
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: about what the realities are with inflation. Extremely volatile energy
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: and food. Brian James, thank you. It'd all worth Financial,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: your employer for loaning you out.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: Appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: I always enjoy these discussions. We'll do this again next Monday,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great week.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, talk to you in a week.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Brothers, stick around Steve Gooden, our legal expert. Will
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  Speaker 2: we join us talk about this since ation Happy Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Always appreciate when Steve Gooden joins the fifty five Caro
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• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Obvious so a legal.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: Issue usually, but also he offers opinion pieces. Thank you,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: Steve Gooden. Opinion contributed to the Sinsint Inquire If You're
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: op ed piece in July thirtieth Inquire Mayor Aftab Parvall's
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: national profile won't fix Cincinnati. Well done, Steve Gooden. He's
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: with Porter Wright outstanding law firm, and he was on
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: last week to talk about the assertion of the Fifth
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Amendment right to be free of self incrimination and connection
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: with Fauci And now we get to talk about the
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Sinsint Public School. Lovey looks like they're going to reverse it. Steve,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the morning show, my friend.
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  Speaker 7: Hey good to be on, and thank you for noting
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 7: that I am no longer on the Mayor's Christmas card
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: place thank you.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: I like how you worked in Zorhan mam Dabby and
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: Mayor Atab Parvall, who everyone accuses of wanting to aspire
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: to some higher office. Someday it'll be Senator per of
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: All and maybe he's got at the back of his
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: mind President per of Ball, who knows it doesn't seem
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: to really pay much attention to what's going on here locally.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 7: I know, he sure does it. He sure does it.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 7: And that was sort of the point of the piece,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 7: is there was a ten day period there where he
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 7: was you have Jesus published in DC, spoken a conference
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 7: in LA you know, was on the Comedy Central show
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: in New York. And that was right during the time
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 7: when we were experiencing flooding at a gate field. But
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 7: it was sure be nice to have had him around
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: to maybe kind of a quarterback to response there, like
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 7: a like a mayor would. So like even this Mondami guy,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 7: you know, even though I strongly disagree with a lot
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 7: of what he does, he's on the scene in New York.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 7: He's doing stuff. So the contrast is not very good.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe that's because Zorhan Mamdami is the mayor of
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: one of the largest cities on the planet, so he
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: is on a national stage. He is telegraphing his image
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: in every major media outlet every single day. One because
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: he's a crazy communist and people are still reeling from
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: his his politics and his philosophy. But he's also happened
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: to be in charge as a very young man of
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: one of the biggest cities on the planet, so that
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: makes him get the exposure I think, Mayor I have
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: to have parlvall is looking for but can't get because
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: he's mayor of Cincinnati, Steve, you know, I think that's.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 7: A big part of it. I mean, yeah, I mean right,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 7: I mean Mondommia because of camera following him everywhere he goes,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: and I think, Madammie, I will give him this. He
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 7: also does have the benefit of I believe. I think
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 7: he believes that stuff. I mean, he really does, and
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: I think he is basically a communist, and I think
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 7: he believes it. I'm not quite sure what our mayor believes.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 7: He's gone through several, you know, sort of iterations of
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 7: who he is so and I think he's kind of
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 7: looking at Montammy and saying, well, that's what's selling. Now
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 7: let me gets you know, you start walking around with
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 7: talk shows and talking like him, so you know, it
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 7: does help to believe in what you're doing. So it's
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  Speaker 7: a it's the contrast particulate.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, pivoting over it looks like there's multiple
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: opportunities for our elected officials to take more money out
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: of our paychecks. Of course, the cincinnt Public School levey
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: was going to be an earn income TAXI point seventy five.
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  Speaker 2: But it's widely reported this morning that in spite of
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: the fact that they just voted to approve this going
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: on the ballot, that no, they're going to pull the
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: plug on that and voted back again. A lot of
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: backlash and Steve Gooden backlash coming from across the political spectrum.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: The Republican Party Hamilton County, of course rejected the idea
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: of raising people's earn putting the earn income tax levy
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: on it. But the Hamilton County Democratic Party came out
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: with a came up with the same conclusion, as did
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnti Federation of Teachers. So I guess I'm wondering
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: are they going to do without or is this simply
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: a way of getting it off. The November ballot where
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a large voter turnout and kicking
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: it off to an off cycle election where they have
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: a better likelihood of getting this levee passed.
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  Speaker 7: Steve, Well, it's one of two things. Well, number one,
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  Speaker 7: I mean we know that it's not because they don't
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 7: want to raise taxes. I mean they still have the
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 7: option of turning around tonight and putting a property tax
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: levee back on the ballot, which is, you know, traditionally
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 7: how CPS has funded their operations. So that's number one.
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  Speaker 7: Number two, you know, there's been a lot of rumors
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 7: around him, you know in my circles that some of
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 7: this came, you know, from Columbus actually, so we know
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 7: we have what's shaping up to be a pretty competitive
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 7: gubernatorial race between Amy Act and AEBT Pramaswami and I
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 7: think there was some concern that a school that had
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 7: earned income tax like this, which is very regressive, very tough,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 7: very expensive for people all across the board, that that
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 7: might bring out the kind of anti tax crowd in
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 7: a way that might actually impact the gubernatorial elections. Act
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 7: that's really counted racking up big numbers down here. So
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 7: there's that, and also number three, it's been an open
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 7: secret that the city itself has been pondering in addition
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 7: to the earned income tax for some time to fund
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 7: city operations. And it became very apparent in the reporting
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 7: on this that CPS the school board had gone road
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 7: here and had done this without checking with the city. So,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 7: you know, there was some real pushback I think in
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 7: the democratic circles from saying like, you know, hey, we
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 7: want to to raise taxes at the city. You guys
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 7: can't raise the taxes here because then they would be
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 7: by far the highest in the state if both of
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 7: these folks raised the jaxes. So it was kind of
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 7: like that line and the Otters line in the Animal
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 7: House where they're kind of like, hey, they can't do
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 7: that to our pledges. Only we can do that to
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 7: our pledges. It was really a good yeah. The mayor
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 7: was basically saying, hey, no, we were going to raise
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 7: that tax, don't raise the tax now.
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  Speaker 2: But I it was widely reported, at least I've read
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: from this morning, was at least on the cincinntiexchange dot
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: com that Mayor Aftab Purvo has withdrawn the proposed city
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: income tax, he has a deadline fast approaching to put it.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: But I guess citing similar concerns, you know, the economic realities,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: maintaining competitive competitive reality for the city versus other cities
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: with lower taxes, the current economic conditions, it's a bad
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: time to raise taxes seemed to be the conclusion from
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: the mayor on that one. So is this just a
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: question of once they the Democrats coordinate the proposed levies,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: the SINSI public schools, the city tax increase, and factoring
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: in the gubernatorial race. Once the November election is over again,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: we'll probably be facing these in an off election cycle
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: in the spring sometime. But they'll have to work out
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: the logistics on which ones are going to prevail, won't they.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. I mean, look the city,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 7: you know, I read the mayor's statement and I hear them,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 7: and what I read that and say is we're not
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 7: going to try this fall for whatever reason. But I
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 7: think it's a foregone conclusion that the city itself will
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 7: come back for an income tax hike at some point
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 7: in the spring. I mean, you know, the Futures Commission
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 7: that they that they put together this group of business
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 7: leaders they washed that idea through there. I mean, it's
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 7: been out, you know, in public, and they've been talking
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 7: about it pretty openly at city Hall for almost two years.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 7: There is some real pushback to that, and I think
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 7: they were they were very clearly upset and perturbed that
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 7: the school board beat them to the punch on that.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 7: So I think it's just a matter of time. And
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 7: the big question to me is whether the school or
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 7: we'll come back and try to do a regular property
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 7: tax levee. And we also in the mix at the
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 7: same time of the County Commissioners voting today on whether
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 7: or not to bring a significant increase for the Children's
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 7: Services levee. So and I think that's really kind of
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 7: what was driving CPS, because the Children's services levee would
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 7: essentially double, as I understand, and if that levee is
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 7: put on the ballot and the task and I know
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 7: there's a fair amount of support in the business community
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 7: anyway to increase that levee because I think there's some
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 7: thought that that might actually sort of that there's just
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 7: an increased need for indigent children's services, you know, in
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 7: this area, So you know, we'll see I mean, there's
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 7: multiple groups trying to raise your taxes, the commissioners, the
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 7: city council, and of course the school board, and they're
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 7: all kind of fighting amongst each other on the timing.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 7: And meanwhile it looks like they're getting pressure from the
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 7: High Democratic Party say hey, we'd rather not have any
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 7: of the stuff on the ballot this fall because we
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 7: actually may have a shot at running up a good
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 7: vote total in Jerry Blue Hamilton County and pushing our
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 7: goubernatorial candidate. So there's a lot of moving pieces.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: Here, a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, given the current property tax environment, I
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: can't imagine anybody wanting to vote an increase on a
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: property tax at all for any reason. It's like we're
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: in no moss Land out here, Steve Gooden. So again,
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: that's why it'll be an off cycle election. Do'll wait
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: till after November so Amy acting won't get hit by
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: the rejection of that kind of concept. And then in spring,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: when only twenty five percent of the people will show up,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: we'll end up voting on a tax levy. They'll probably
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: go through. Steve Gooden, can you hold over for just
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: a moendment? I got another I just wanted to bounce
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: off this whole idea of state AG's perhaps going after
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: doctor Fauci.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: Can you comment on that?
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? All right?
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: One more with Steve good our legal expert from Porter Right.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: Don't go away, be right back with him on Yes,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: another state has launched an investigation into Fauci over his
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: well lies. I'll summarize it as you're.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: Buying a new home.
• 2:04:01
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• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: joins the fifty five carsse Morning should have talk about
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: these matters. Of course, moving away from city related issues
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: and tax increases, let's pivot over to a topic you
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: talked about with my listening audience to me last week,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: doctor Fauci's assertion of the Fifth Amendment right to be
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: free of self incrimination, although pardon does not apparently shield
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: him from potential state prosecutions because presidential pardons only apply
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: to offenses against the United States generally. Now, Louisiana has
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: now joined Alabama and Florida in promising to investigate whatever
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: crimes I guess they can hold against some under state law,
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: and also encouraging civil litigation against doctor Fauci. Now, Steve,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: I've struggled in you know, no legal scholar, am I.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: You know, just because of a law license doesn't mean
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with every state law potential violation he might
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: have be held accountable for. But I'm struggl to figure
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: out what doctor Anthony Fauci can be held liable for,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: considering that he had no authority to order anyone to
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: do anything. He was just offering his advice as the
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: grand Poohba of all things medicine, and it's governors and
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: other elected officials who actually took the ball and ran
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: with it and locked us all down and forced us
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: to stay in nursing homes, et cetera, et cetera.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: So is there anything out there, Steve?
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 7: You know what I I when I first heard this,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 7: I thought that there might have been some you know,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 7: some angle I thought for some of the states to
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 7: get involved, And I think so that that's increasingly looking
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 7: to be unlikely. I mean, I really think that by
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 7: and large, as you noted, it's the Amy Act into
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 7: the world, who finally in the governors in some cases
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 7: who actually ended up signing the state level orders that
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 7: really closed a lot of things down. Now that's not
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 7: to say that I that I think his testimony and
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 7: his diaries particularly invite some of these attorney generals to
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 7: put together class acts of litigation that could actually, you know,
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 7: maybe financially hold him and others accountable. It really does
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 7: look as though, you know, he was acting in bad
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 7: faith on a lot of these things, that he was
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 7: arbitrary and what he was saying, and he's still not,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 7: in my mind, given a straight answer on the origin
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 7: of the virus and whether or not taxpayer funded research
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 7: in China, you know, may have contributed to it through
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 7: this like whole gain of function thing, which I think
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 7: is still to me one of the most bizarre parts
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 7: about it. If that didn't happen, it would seem like
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 7: somebody could just give a very clear answer as to
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 7: why it didn't happen. So I still think that the
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 7: concept for litigation is there. I could see attorney generals
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 7: trying to bring litigation either against him or against the
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 7: Nationalistitute of Health based on the guidance that they gave.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 7: Because of the damage it caused to businesses particularly, and
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 7: a lot of individuals. But in terms of the criminal piece,
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 7: I don't think so. And I think that's going to
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 7: really come up in the next week or two because,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 7: as I understand it, Senator Ram Paul has referred fauci,
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 7: you know, for potential prosecution for contempt of Congress. So
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 7: they're going to really dig into his basis for invoking
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 7: the Fifth Amendment there, you know, because you can't just
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 7: invoke the Fifth you have to be able to show,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 7: you know, in a contempt to setting why you but
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 7: why you did it. There's to be a genuine factual basis,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 7: So he better come up. I hope his lawyers are
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 7: smarter than you and I and can come up with
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 7: some basis for the state prosecution, because that seemed to
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 7: be the primary and most compelling reason he had for
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 7: evoking the Fifth Amendment. So I think that's going to develop.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 7: I think that's going to come to a head very soon.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: Well you know it, and I know it. You practice law,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: and having practice law, I know it how expensive lawyers are.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, to the extent people are just interested in
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: exacting a pound of flesh. And I'm not supportive of lawfair.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: Steve.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: My view is you better damn well have a straight
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: face reason to file an allegation or action against someone
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: civilly or criminally, not just to force them to go
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: through the process and break the person or entity financially
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: through their legal bills. But you know, I don't know
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: how much money fauc He's got, but he's going to
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: have to lawyer up heavily because this man potentially can
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: be in court a lot in multiple states. Frivolous lawsuits
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: are not.
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  Speaker 6: No.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 7: I think that's right, and I mean and I think
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 7: the real question is whether they'll be able to get
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 7: it in personally, which after the diaries, I think they'll
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 7: definitely try to. I mean, I'm sure he's somehow, in
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 7: one way or another indemnified still with the federal government
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 7: for some of his actions during his long career there,
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 7: so we might have an ironic situation where the Department
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 7: of Justice would have a duty to defend some of
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 7: these lawsuits.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 7: But I think some of these guys are going to
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 7: be clever and they're going to, I think, try to
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 7: get around that and say, look here here in these
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 7: diaries show that he didn't believe a lot of his
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 7: own stuff, that there were scientists you know, who were
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 7: telling him all along that some of these restrictions and
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 7: recommendations for the restrictions and what have you. You know,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 7: we're overkilled and not necessarily the right thing. And then
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 7: there's this whole issue about where the virus really came
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 7: from and whether or not his office helped fund it
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 7: tax dollars. So you know, so there are ways I
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 7: think to get at him personally, but again I don't
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 7: know what resources he has. I mean, we do know
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 7: he got that million dollar award from Sweden or wherever
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 7: it was being being so great, you know, and that
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 7: is one actually, if I can circle back that to me,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 7: is the most problematic thing for him in terms of
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 7: a potential criminal action, is that he might you know,
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 7: it looks as though there have been some allegations. I
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 7: think there are things in the diaries that suggest he
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 7: used government employees and put together his application for this award.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 7: And that's the kind of thing under this kind of
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 7: what they call honest goods and services theory, where where
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 7: you really can't get yourself in the jackpot as a
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 7: government employee if you're doing things using government resources for
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 7: private gain, So I expect that to be one area
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 7: where they really could revisit him a little bit here,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 7: kind of like going after al Capone for not putting
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 7: his income taxes. But it's very similar, all right.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 2: And real quick here Steve Goodin for a part company.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: There's two other elements of this I know people are
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: interested in going after, which are is an auto pen
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: pardon valid? And also the scope of the presidential pardon
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: being so broad brush and covering massive quantities of time
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: for literally anything doctor Anthony Fauci did between January of
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and Donald Trump being sworn in office. Those
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: are two areas that have yet to be litigated. Do
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: you see those going anywhere?
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 7: Steve Gooden, Well, in terms of the scope, I mean,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 7: you know, as crazy as it seems that he got
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 7: a pardon for basically, you know, ten years almost that
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 7: I think is generally held up, but there have been
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 7: presidents who tried that in the past. But we're in
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 7: uncharted waters on the auto pin thing. I mean, I mean,
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 7: we know that we have a president who was visibly,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 7: you know, during the twenty twenty four debates he had
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 7: cognitive issues. There are report after report that he had
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 7: cognitive issues, and that you know, whether or not he
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 7: understood the pardons and other things that were being issued
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 7: via that auto pen. I mean, that's an open question,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 7: that's a factual question, and at some point some clever
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 7: lawyers are going to find a way to get that
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 7: into court. Now telling Lee, I mean, this issue they
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 7: kind of got out in front of this. Biden signed
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 7: the the Fauci pardon the same day he signed the
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 7: pardon for his son, Hunter Biden, and it was on
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 7: you know, January the nineteenth of twenty twenty five, his
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 7: absolute last day in office. And he has made a
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 7: couple of public statements that are kind of remarkable, like no,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 7: I actually signed those I signed those two myself. So
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 7: you know, we'll see. They may have sort of tried
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 7: to preempt that issue, anticipated that the auto pen is
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 7: going to be a problem. Whether or not that's actually
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 7: how it happened, you know, of course, we don't know,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 7: but they are concerned enough about the autopen piece that
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 7: he personally signed at least the two pardons he seemed
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 7: to care the most about, which were Anthony Fauci and
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 7: his son Hunter Biden.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: That's telling in and of itself. Steve Good and Porter
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Wrights where you find a porter right dot com. Thank
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: you for your time. As always, Steve, I'll look forward
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: to having you back on the program whenever we got
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: these legal issues to talk about. My friend, Hey, anytime
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: you take care Brian, you do the same. Have a
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: great week, eight forty nine right now, fifty five cares