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Now, here are the host of The United, We scan podcast, And
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welcome back, everybody. It is Mario Day.
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Eve, is that a thing episode 25. We've got our normal line up the
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tonight with the exception of Mike, he's he's home now but the
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honey do list was a kind of long for him today.
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So how are you? How was your week this week?
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James. Well, first of all, I'd like to
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take a moment to remember every Fallen vet of fighter of our
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country as we do this Memorial Day.
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So I want to remember everyone. That did not come home.
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And now this week, it was pretty easy.
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I mean dealing with disputes and getting management to listen
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about disputes. This was a lot of fun.
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My manager wants, every route to do a dispute over their 4240
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ones, not lump them all together like the instructions.
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Say so that's what we're doing. Everybody's got a sit down with
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her and do the dispute forms together.
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So that's we're going to do because they're do with
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Wednesday. So I'm going to do my Tuesday
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with the manager even though my route didn't change, I'm still
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going to do a dispute form because I should be probably
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making more hours than I am. How about you guys?
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Yeah, mine's the same. Josh, I was your week, my
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weakness, pretty good. Again, like James said, just
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trying to honor and remember Those who paid the ultimate
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sacrifice for our freedoms that we have.
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I am not disputing because even though I'm sure there are some
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things, I'm already a 48k and I went up a little bit.
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I don't necessarily want to give them more that they can cut off
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my route later. However, in October, I will be
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going through everything but a fine-tooth comb.
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Well, Bill how was your week, dear?
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Oh, it's just fine and dandy peachy keen, Tommy.
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Yeah, I love the place. I mean, really free
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entertainment. They pay you to be there.
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You know, they give you a personal vehicle, customized
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vehicle, you know, the greatest management and in the world,
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great co-workers, everybody's cooperative and then I wake up
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and go to work. Yeah, I mean, you know, we're
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short of Supervisors. We're short of Clerks were short
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of carry. Well, we have enough carriers
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but they don't show up all the time.
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Yeah, yeah. Some people get frustrated with
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management. I just laugh and file a
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grievance. You know.
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I just here you go. Here's another one was his for
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working off, the clock. What's this for waiting time?
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What will you waiting for? We're waiting for the DPS to be.
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Put up well, your subs can do it but nobody told them to you now
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so you get, you know, it's not up to us to direct the other
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carriers in the their duties, it's up the management.
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And and you know, I sit there that lab and supervisor sits
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there and says, well who worked off the clock?
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And I mentioned the carrier and they said, well, no, they
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weren't doing that. They were working, you know,
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they were talking to me and I said, when you're handing out
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the flats, they were at the case mail in the slots lights on
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armful of flats and everybody else.
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I walked in that 8:28, I don't know what to tell you, you know,
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somebody's stupid. So like I said, I mean, you
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know, I just smiled file a grievance, you know, go on my
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Merry way. Yes.
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Dress. Cause it baby cause it.
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There you go. There's your slogan.
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Yeah, that's one of them. Hey, my week was, it was okay,
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the most part. I we just with that mercury
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spill that happened the down of the plant, so everything that we
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didn't get the week before, we definitely got this week and
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yeah, it was one of those. those days were go on the route,
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Friday borrowed RCA have been running it for all week, and I
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get to the route on Friday and I was a little miffed because we
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had Ed bows came in on Thursday and those are out, Scott box
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holders on Wednesday, Ed rose on Thursday and another box holder
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on Friday. Which for us is quite a bit in
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one week and he only did half of the one box holder on Wednesday.
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So arrows come in on Thursday. So he finished off the other
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box. Holder.
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Not only did half of the ad bows on Wednesday and Thursday.
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I have walk-in Friday morning to a fad bows, and another whole
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box holder and I love the supervisor know.
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I said this. Well, the OIC.
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Excuse me, I said this is bullshit.
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It was my exact words, this is bullshit.
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There's a lot of boxes. This week is like, well, he had
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a box. Hold box, holder and a half
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yesterday. I said, do I said he had a box
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holder on Wednesday at vosges yesterday.
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And now I have another box holder today that I'm taking out
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with half the ad Voz. Oh yeah.
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I was not a happy camper and then of course, being Memorial
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Day weekend and garage sales City.
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I'm, you know, having to fight the garage sales while I'm out.
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Delivering and then come home and sit at my own.
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Yeah, I didn't have that problem yesterday.
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You didn't work. Did you never mind?
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That I have to deal with them anymore.
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However, well only one of two or two per month, you still get the
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rest of them though. Right?
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So if you get them box holders, they won't be addressed.
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Well, get out, get out here, get out your customers, get him to
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start doing mediums every month to make up for it.
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You know. Do the rural reach We're really
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love that. It would your coworkers.
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Okay, you guys go. Glad you said that?
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Because I will say something in but I will I'll hand it to one
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of my regulars in my office Friday, this because I did get
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slammed and I did have plans to go Go down to a concert on
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Friday, a ticket. I had bought in January and
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you'll see say with my car, getting totaled and everything
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else that I ended up skipping the concert Friday.
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But one of my regulars on the smallest on RH route she took my
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Ox route for me Friday even though she had to box holders on
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her row. She volunteered and took the aux
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route for me, so I could clean up the mess from The Borrowed.
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That was nice of her. Speak.
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Now we're at the point in my office where you know, we used
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to help and even though it hurts the subs a little bit, we don't
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help anymore. I get it.
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Yeah again because you you because then they start
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expecting you to do it, right? Yeah.
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I mean I would have I would have taken the ox role if I
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absolutely had to. It wasn't a big deal.
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It was nice that she volunteered because initially what it was
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was One of the other newer RCA's was scheduled to run it, but his
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regular wanted the day off so that bumped him off the aux
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route. And I initially had plans so I
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was going to try and keep to that schedule, but it all worked
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out. You must like the girl in the
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route next to me has been out for Oat little over a month now.
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and she's not supposed to be back until almost the end of
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June because she broke her foot and So they have been having one
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sub carrier route most days recently but before that the you
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know, the work wife's star. She's been taking it like some
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of it helping you get it up and so I'm good.
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The other day, the 204 B came over to her and ask her about
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helping says, I can't I got to get out of here.
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You know, I got things I have to do right here. you know, soon as
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I get done work, And to a breeze.
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Like, but I have like five routes down on the other Zone.
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I got to figure. I don't know how to get this
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out. It sounds like a you problem.
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Doesn't it? Pretty much.
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That's a management issue at that point.
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Yep. So guys, what hot topics are we
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looking at chat about tonight? Well, this afternoon, we posted
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In the group, what will be like to talk about and or screenshots
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bring shots in the chat of different things?
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Let's see. First one was I like to hear
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more about those arguments with management LOL, you got some of
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that question answers. You got from mid State's
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Parents, sorry, if posting this information already.
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Maybe I missed it. I'm gonna apologize.
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Now, to everybody that I had yet to dictate my notes, given the
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issues that I've been dealing with with the last couple weeks,
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like my car being total about a week after I got back from it
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states and my work schedule, I do apologize.
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I will get to those as soon as I can hopefully soon or than
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later. Here's another good one.
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How mileage is lost on our route.
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So daily distance was lost. I think and then simple things
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we've had and done for years had for years and now they figure a
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different way to do things that are loss.
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Okay? The mileage loss on the routes,
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comes down to the GPS, on the scanners, doing the lto, you can
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fight that, you can file a dispute on that and they can do
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a route. Remeasurement incorrect that for
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you just saying, Part of that is also if you are taking a
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shortcut on your route, like, for instance, on my route, my
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route says that I go to the end of the road and do a U-turn, a
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shortcut would be to pull in the driveway and back out and go the
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other way. If you're not doing that drive
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to the end of the road and do it, you turn eventually, the GPS
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will cut that off of your route. Just like if you have streets
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that you normally go down. If you no longer go down then
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eventually they're going to cut those off your route from the
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GPS breadcrumbs from the scanner.
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So make sure you're driving your entire route every single day.
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The way you're supposed to drive it the way it was on your 4003.
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Because even though the 4003 supposably doesn't matter
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anymore, you still want to drive it like your 4003 because that's
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how your mileage is going to be calculated by the GPS.
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And to the best of my knowledge today, the distance between the
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mailbox and you're actually delivery point is still line of
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sight. It's not the actual road.
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So if you have some elongated driveways, like I have several,
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you're only getting that distance as the crow flies, not
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the actual distance, If you need your at a house on my route and
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you're behind the pond and I have to go a half a mile around
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the pond to get to your garage that this distance doesn't get
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calculated. Just the, you know, 300 feet
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from the mailbox to the garage. One of your favorites, bill.
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I'm curious what and then in quotation marks settled for
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language means in a couple people like it and the replied
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me too. All right.
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Do you say that in English because you your robotic on my
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system? A lot.
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Alright, settled. For language, they're curious,
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what that means. Well depending on how much you
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curse when you settle for language or one of my favorites.
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That's when that's when you can't settle your grievance at
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the local level and it gives up to the steps to and either they
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D RDR is settling it for you and they settle for language.
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So, case in point, when somebody's discussing something
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no less a Hypothetically, the workday relief list does not up
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in a timely fashion and they failed to do that and then they
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start scheduling People based on who they like, or don't like
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them all that. Well, since you have no active
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work, they were leafless. Then, you know, they can turn
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around and schedule people unless they ask them by
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seniority and if they don't get the people then they know turn
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around and they force them by Jr d.
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So when a grievance comes back and, you know, eight carriers
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have been offended in regards to wages and the step to comes back
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settle for language. That will cooperate with
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management and make sure they put it up on time.
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You might blow a gasket. Because it's not your
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responsibility to make sure they do their job, it's their
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responsibility. So when you know I see those
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words settled for language. Oh Lord, all the Crown Royal
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flows that night. I'll tell ya.
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Is another good one. That's a hypothetical situation.
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Where basically, settled, for language means that whoever is
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sitting on it, they manage they and management agree that
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management will follow the contract.
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That's your whole room. That's the remedy.
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That's what you got. There's no cease and desist.
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We won't do it again. You know, we you'll stop doing
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it and won't do it again. Then there's no compensation for
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the affected carriers. It's just imagine doing it will
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management will follow the contract in this regard, so
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it'll / management means nobody's getting paid.
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That's what it means. How can we change the union
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leaders? Because the times that we have
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been given for each duty is unacceptable and Union seems to
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not care. We've talked about on the
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subject quite a few times on how Vote or delegates National at
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vote to elect the leaders that sit at the table.
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Everybody should have gotten their ballots.
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If you're a dues-paying member, you've gotten a probably gotten
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a ballot in the mail. Now, to vote for your National
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delegates. That is how you change the
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leaders. If you want to change them, you
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can also choose to have the same leaders if you like the leaders
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that are in there and that's whether it doesn't matter to us.
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Either side of it, we have our own opinions on the leaders of
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the Union, everybody else has their To the leaders of the
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Union, that's up to them. But you have to vote on your
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National delegate ballot, for the people who are running for
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that, that support your personal ideas in the people, you want to
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see in those positions, otherwise you're just going to
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have the same old. Same old, if you don't vote, the
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biggest thing, any dues paying member can do is vote.
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And the second biggest thing you can do is file a resolution.
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Yes. That can change things your
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everybody, and if every District looking like in Pennsylvania, we
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have 42 44, 46 of them. Everybody submits a resolution
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for one, man, one person. One vote for national board.
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There we go. We're going to get enough
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pressure for it. To be considered at the state
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level, then gets pushed up to the National level.
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If they do it in Maine. Massachusetts Mississippi,
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Nevada, say, Same thing, they're gonna see that, you know, these
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people are not happy with the representatives are sending to
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the National Convention and voting their interests and not
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yours. And I'll step up and run to be a
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delegate. Hmm, there's that to step up and
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run for net is get involved. And if you are involved, you
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know, you could step up and run for national board.
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Kosta tution National Constitution.
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Just says that you have to be a dues-paying member in good
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standing for three consent for the last three consecutive years
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in order to run for national board.
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And it doesn't say you have to start at one position and work
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your way up. It just says to run for national
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board. A couple of us have done that in
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the past. Yeah, baby.
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There's, it's that whole, you have to vote, I mean, when only
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20%, and then we've mentioned this many, many, many times.
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When 20% of the members vote, you're not going to get much of
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a change. If it's the same twenty percent
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voting, for the same people that vote for the same people.
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Oh, That's how you do that. Can someone who isn't a delegate
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run for national board at the National Convention?
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Yes, you can be registered as a guest is a non delegate and run
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for national board. You do not have to be a
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delegate. I'm going to speak from
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experience. I was an alternate delegate last
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year. I had no voting capabilities and
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I ran for national board. Yes, this is a dues-paying
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member in good standing for three years.
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So, you can register as a non delegate attendee in run for
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national board. A question, we got take the
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topic of denied annual leave for the reason.
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No subs available through the grievance process now.
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As it stands. We legally are not allowed to
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discuss grievances that have occurred, but we can give
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examples. So if you're denied because no
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subs available, if you have Subs in your office and they aren't
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scheduled yet on that day or however, it works.
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What do you guys think? Bill, you're the big grievance
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guy? Well, in our office, It's Not
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Unusual for us to have a bacon. Trout scheduled with the
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anticipation of the sub, splitting it up.
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So, if you're only going for a day or two, you know, that's not
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a big deal in my office, okay, we have the coverage and
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actually we have, we have two new sub starting this week so
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yeah, I mean, you know, the management can schedule an open
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route, so if you need the time off, I would present that to
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them. I believe that's in the order of
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consideration, not that I could professionally speaking.
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Not on my own. But you know, if I would look
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there, I might find it. Yeah, hopefully, tarragon the
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odor of consideration. You can find it on the NRL, see
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a website under the steward reference guide under the letter
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O and I know there are many other places I have it listed as
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well. Yeah, definitely, the and it's
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not just Subs in your office. Either know, you've got track
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because it can be within 50 miles of your office.
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So if you actually know there's Is a sub available in your
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District. That would be willing to work
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that day and your management saying no subs available but
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that sub is available. Talk with your local designated
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union rep. Say hey, I try, they didn't want
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to do this. I'm filing a grievance on it
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because such and such sub is available at this office and is
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willing to come here and run my route.
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Well, I'll take it one step further because if I wanted the
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time off and we didn't have any subs available, I would have to
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ask supervisor which local offices has she called to see if
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any subs were available? I was just going to say that
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that I have put that as a contention in my statement
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multiple times. They have not you know that
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management did not reach out because I hand the slipped it on
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the market tonight and hand it right back to me.
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So I know they didn't even check to see if I need anyone was
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available. Okay, I'm going to interject for
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a moment and I want to say, welcome back to Mike.
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I was your trip. How was Hawaii?
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Did you get the honey do list done?
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We have the honey do list. There's more to come.
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And most importantly, I didn't care.
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Well. That might just remember the
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matter how long you take off. You actually need one and a half
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times that. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well I wasn't I wasn't.
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How do I want to say this schedule for
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What's that is? It are you going back to work
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Tuesday? I've already been back to work.
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Okay, I came back, we flew overnight, we pick an overnight
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flight on Tuesday. She landed Wednesday morning,
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Thursday. Actually, I was back to work
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last Thursday, okay? And then, and I took about 20
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minutes. 8127 time to clean up the stuff.
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I just the random stuff I just found laying around my case
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including three Parcels. Well, one was in the case from
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the day before and then two Parcels were sitting on top of
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the case. It's like, total been supervisor
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and one has been sitting for about ten days.
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Wow. Yeah.
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The joys of playing clean up, right?
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Yeah. So Friday and my role as you
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can. I actually got my Payday on
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Friday, but I went in for about an hour to sit in on my first.
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I and I, and That Was Then, you know, I work yesterday, I'm off
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today and tomorrow, and we will be back at it on Tuesday.
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Fun. At least you got to clean up
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before the holiday I did. And that will be miserable.
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This weekend is the Kansas State Convention, so I will be off
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from Saturday until next Wednesday.
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We will have good on Saturday for board meeting and then
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Sunday, Monday, Tuesday is the state convention.
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We'll see how that goes. It should be interesting.
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Yeah. Alright so we're going to kind
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of go to this one and a little all over the place but what
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needs an extra scan and what each scan actually gives credit
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for such as just to mailbox or also to Door example I'm reading
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people double scanning carrier pickups is prepaid acceptance
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and or Muska lanius and some say certified needing dormice
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colonias as well whether 3849 is give credit to the door
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excetera. Seems many offices do things
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differently. When it comes to doing the
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additional scans trip to doors Norma School Aeneas, what not if
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you are going to the door more than one time, you're going to
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enter that in as actually, you know, as extra charge to the
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door when you're doing a certified.
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Because it isn't accountable and it's already built in under the
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accountable credit to go to the door.
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Obviously, you don't need a dormice coleus.
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Or a certified. No.
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It's just like taking a parcel to the door.
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Yep. Because if you scan it at the
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door, when you ring the doorbell knock on the door to attempt it,
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that's your that's your scan. then you guys,
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Whether you actually have the person there to sign for it, or
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you'll even notice you're still getting the credit to the door.
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Supposedly April 10th, our episode carrier discretion AKA
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activity scans went through the whole treat with what each of
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the scans were And how they matter?
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Right? I don't have the PDF saved in
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the 99 page document with what the time standards are so for
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anything. Because I think that was part of
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that question. Most of your scans are going to
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be under the one scan, the ones that are two scans.
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Are your SPS p.m. scans that you get from them and I can't
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remember the other ones. But there are specific ones that
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are two type to verification scans and single verification
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scans. You'll have to read up on that
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in the 99 page guide but there's two different credits for those
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ones but you're certified they're going to be a single
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scan and you're like a pickup. Requests are two Factor scans.
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You have to do so that gives you an idea.
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Yeah, because you're skiing in the SUV.
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Yes or no. Did you complete the big help?
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Yes. And then if it's more than five
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packages, he'll do the remaining under the prepaid acceptance.
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There we go. And now you don't have to use a
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door Muska. Lanius for are your pickups.
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If you have to make more than one trip to load everything
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under a carrier. Pick up that actually falls
31:57
under the trip to Door. Yes, I'm walking to the door and
32:04
I tripped. Do you know your that's a
32:09
carrier? That's crashing.
32:14
Make sure you're wearing a postal approved shoes for that
32:17
because that's the first thing we're going to look for.
32:24
They Billows. Italy rocks.
32:25
That doesn't know my Crocs. You gotta remember, folks, when
32:31
you going to the door, okay? You either have a package.
32:35
You have a certified. You have hold mail if you're
32:39
taking, you know, the whole nail up there, you know, it's an
32:42
unscannable parcel. With this morning, eight pieces,
32:45
you're getting the credit for going the door.
32:47
For anything that is accountable under the terms of a certified
32:52
Express, Mail registered, or any type of parcel that has a bar
32:58
code on there, you're getting that credit.
33:00
Already when you go to the door. So there is no miscellaneous
33:03
credit for other things. Then a second trip to the door.
33:08
So don't try to cheat the system.
33:12
Please don't there. I've seen several reports of
33:15
people getting with the you know, Infamous benchmarks of
33:20
well you had too many of these and now you have to verify all
33:24
your unscannable Parcels before you leave to the row.
33:26
And hey guys let's just really want to do that.
33:31
If they want to show you to show them every single parcel.
33:34
If they are, you want 8127 or 1314 a time for that.
33:38
At mmm, especially unscannable Parcels.
33:44
Now, there's confusion on unscannable Parcels, because of
33:48
the fact that you get some of those big donations to the
33:52
Native American or, you know, American veterans association
33:57
or, you know, some kind of wildlife conservation group that
34:01
don't fit in the case, That's that's the technicality.
34:06
If it doesn't fit in the mail slot with the mail that's an
34:11
unscannable parcel. If you can't bend it to put it
34:16
in there with ease because your mail is supposed to slide in as
34:20
you're not supposed to sit there and wiggle it in folks, it's
34:24
supposed to slide in That's an unscalable parcel.
34:28
And if anybody has any questions about that, then you bring it to
34:32
their attention. Say look this, I can't case this
34:36
in a timely fashion for this, be considered a flat.
34:41
This is not a letter obviously because it's him 20 inches long
34:44
and 14 inches high is not going to fit into my 5 shelf system.
34:51
You got a partial. I got the five shelf and you
35:08
know, I have a half Wing too. Can I say thank you for not
35:13
putting anything on the is nothing more annoying.
35:17
Especially if it's on an end. I just know, I can't do it.
35:27
I fought tooth and nail with AMS on that.
35:30
You're getting the double slots on the end.
35:33
And, you know, they supposed to be first one has to, you know,
35:37
have your change of address cards in there.
35:40
I said, okay put it in there, they put it, put it in there, I
35:42
white it out and it was just got the address for the first
35:45
address in there, you know, whatever makes you happy, folks,
35:49
you know that there's tricks of the trade that you pick up over
35:52
two years. So That's mine.
35:56
Definitely. Well, this one.
36:01
They had a screenshot of an article out of one of the
36:07
national news magazines, but I don't have it back up there now,
36:12
but it has to do with clarification on late arrivals
36:20
and second trips. Their UPS normally drops off
36:25
around 10 or 11 and get scanned for the next day.
36:28
The clerk mistakenly scanned them for the same.
36:31
Um day. So they're told they had to go
36:33
back out because of the clerk's mistake at the time it was 2
36:38
minutes per mile, plus load time.
36:41
If you're going to explaining it arrivals are not the three
36:45
minutes. A mile.
36:45
We now get for second trip. The answer I have it pulled up.
36:51
Okay. According to the union article
36:54
is says no is not proper. Under the terms of the pre
36:57
arbitration settlement. The agreement covers second
37:01
trips to deliver Express priority, and other preferential
37:04
mail pieces that have arrived at the office after the carrier
37:07
left for the street, it does not include returning to get Parcels
37:11
that Clerks just did not get sorted before you left this
37:15
agreement does not all also does not apply to those instances.
37:19
When rural carriers may be instructed to return, to the
37:21
route to deliver late, arriving trays, or even entire runs of
37:25
DPS letters or DPS Flats in these instances.
37:29
The union position is that rural carriers should be compensated
37:33
for actual time at the carrier's overtime rate.
37:37
The same method used to calculate Christmas overtime,
37:39
rate, you should also receive additional EMA as appropriate.
37:43
If you drive your personal vehicle on the route, if you are
37:46
required to make to return to the office, and make a second
37:49
trip to deliver Parcels that were not sorted before you left
37:52
or take out late arriving DPS letters or flat, ask your
37:56
supervisor to compensate you at the overtime rate.
38:01
If they refuse and talk to your local designated union
38:04
representative. But do the work.
38:09
Yes, but follow a direct order preferably in writing round
38:15
dated and signed always I advise everybody, if they don't put it
38:26
in writing then, you know, don't do it.
38:28
If you're not willing to put their name on it, in the fashion
38:32
of a direct order, then, you know, they're hiding something
38:37
and they people in my office, basically simple.
38:39
But what if we get in trouble? I says, don't worry, I got your
38:41
back. All right, there's a couple ones
38:45
under this. One out of a clarification on
38:48
what carriers over 55 are entitled to example, auxiliary
38:53
help. When they can get help or for,
38:55
maybe they have a Parcels, they have to go over there.
38:59
Eval weekly, can they get help on Mondays or day after a
39:02
holiday when they will be out longer than evil?
39:10
Well, Josh, you want to handle that?
39:11
You're over 55. Look, I took the first shot at
39:28
him. His last name was Franklin.
39:44
I gotta go find my waiters and they've been here.
39:49
I used to set the stop. The dirty Ross's house for tea
39:52
and crumpets. Well, you're the one who told
39:57
her to put the 13 stars on the flag, what the hell?
40:03
She had extra white okay on the internet again.
40:09
But the the 55 rules is only hit, you want to have your route
40:13
reduced, it doesn't hit times nothing to do with have even
40:17
Monday's or lifting Parcels or anything else.
40:21
I hate to say it but you know, it's just if you want to take it
40:25
easier on your body and make yourself last a little longer.
40:28
I mean, there are situations where people have to turn around
40:32
and taking their routes from a K2, an H because they can handle
40:36
six days a week at 6 and a seven hours versus, you know, five
40:41
days working 10 hours. So it has no bearing on the
40:44
value of the mail to did day of the week or anything else like
40:47
that, you just getting old. That's all.
40:52
Don't do it. It's a trap.
40:58
Yeah, that's really all that is. No, you can ask if you're over
41:01
55, you can even if you're not an overburdened route, you can
41:05
submit into heavier route if needed.
41:11
You're getting old. I
41:40
didn't get a chance to get back to.
41:43
I'm going to read this one now and I'm going to let you guys
41:45
chime in here. Working on dispute forms for our
41:48
office. I will leave out the name of the
41:50
office. You have any knowledge of how 34
41:54
additional round-trip miles being added to our route daily,
41:58
or remodeling construction would have affected our Rex for eight
42:02
months. We are temporarily placed in
42:05
another building. So I'm curious if you think the
42:07
additional mileage could have hurt our X and we were also
42:12
required to do RJ time, and of shift duties, and our local
42:16
office due to not having staff to work, our throwback case in
42:19
the other office. Although we had to drive back.
42:22
So that unit every day. Located there.
42:30
They're off as being renovated so they have to work at another
42:32
office. Uh-huh.
42:34
And then at the end of the day, they have to return to the
42:36
original office which they can't work out of in the daytime case
42:41
up there, all stuff and then go back to the office that are
42:45
operating out of. Yeah.
42:49
So yeah, I think that was all be under return to to you.
42:56
Yeah, should be. Yeah, I would say even the drive
43:00
back to the original unit would be would be under the end of
43:05
shift duties. At this point in time, that 34
43:11
miles if round trip, if that's dead head.
43:15
Yeah, that's that's on the sucky part of the, the drive speed
43:21
Matrix. Nothing coming like that that's
43:26
a double-edged sword there. Because one It hurts you because
43:33
it's all a deadhead time too. S extra miles that are added
43:40
into your route. So you're getting the extra time
43:46
towards your evaluation during the winter time that you're
43:50
working out of this other building, which you will then
43:56
lose when you go back into your office and you'll go back to
44:02
your regular, but you know, is James just said it's going to be
44:07
at the lower the lowest time period because it's at the, you
44:13
know, it's going to be calculated by a fascist
44:15
depending on, How long? Your trip, you know how long you
44:22
travel each stretch? So every time you get to a
44:24
corner and turn or a stop sign, it stops and starts over.
44:31
At least it's supposed to anyways.
44:33
What? Yes, and this is the thing
44:39
that's really pissed. Me off about Rex, okay?
44:43
We were supposed to go live in September and although the union
44:48
new in August, it wasn't happening.
44:50
They didn't bother telling us until after the convention, it's
44:54
called political survival. But the biggest problem of it is
44:58
that in the six months between September and February, March,
45:02
they still didn't train everybody, okay?
45:06
They still didn't get all the necessary items taken care of in
45:11
the dress. They didn't get all the training
45:12
to the carrier's address. My biggest problem is that none
45:17
of the management in a lot of offices weren't qualified to
45:22
actually do the MMF MMS, okay? Their office is out there now
45:28
that still haven't been mapped and yet you're trying to
45:32
implement this program. The every day, there's the
45:36
horror stories about, you know, scanner malfunctions Parcels
45:41
been left at the end of the end of the day that you don't have,
45:45
you know, Parcels that show up in your scanner and they're, you
45:47
know, 40 miles away in Delaware or Madison Wisconsin.
45:51
Where wouldn't doesn't matter if they're just not there.
45:54
But they're showing up in your scanners a failure.
45:56
These are the types of things that you know, needed to be
45:58
corrected and in the 11 years, since the Inception of this
46:02
idea, they have failed to perform on both sides of the
46:07
coin, the union, and the post office.
46:10
And there's no way in hell that the union should agree to
46:13
anything until everything was worked out.
46:17
And don't tell me, we have to go through this process to find out
46:20
what the bugs are. At the livelihood of 66 percent
46:27
of the carrier's affected. So maybe on the carrier's.
46:35
So maybe on a management, a lot of it, is this the system
46:39
itself? Yes, live is based on the people
46:44
who put in an input into what this becomes mmm.
46:49
So, unfortunately we're saying here and we can 20/20 hindsight
46:55
this all the way, but the real thing is, I really want what?
46:59
I really would love to do is sit down with the in Engineers and
47:04
the program itself and see all the all the coding that went
47:07
into it because I want to see where everything's being put
47:10
together. I want I want to see the
47:12
calculation for every single slot on the 4241 a the 4241 em.
47:18
I want to see the data that goes into it.
47:20
I literally want the 750 pages per route of data that comes out
47:26
of this this program because I guarantee you for 144 slots
47:31
there 750 data For each route that I need to look at to see
47:36
how it actually calculates, this and nobody has access to that
47:40
not the union, not postal management, only the engineers
47:44
and the people that were working closely to make this program,
47:48
are the ones that have access to that, and I want to see that.
47:54
And we should work. Never agree.
47:55
We should never agreed until that was all visible to
47:59
everybody. A lot of that is because of the
48:03
arbitrator that created this system.
48:10
It's just, I mean, there's no transparency.
48:13
There's still no transparency. We don't know where some of
48:16
these numbers are coming from or there.
48:18
How they're configured, how you're getting certain coverage
48:22
factors. You know, it's think about when
48:29
we were at mid states Kristen and that Regional postal manager
48:33
couldn't even put up rural numbers on the board.
48:37
He could only put up City numbers because their systems
48:41
don't handle rural mail. Although we get the same type of
48:44
mail that City carriers do the same volumes of mail.
48:47
Supposedly as City carrier, they can't give us our numbers.
48:51
They have to show us City carrier numbers and then manager
48:54
also even Even admitted that he didn't bother to train the
49:01
district or local managers on Rex either, he was part of the
49:05
problem because he knew Rex and he wasn't willing to pass that
49:09
information down the chain. He's just as much culpable as
49:13
anybody else in this whole system.
49:15
Here's another question, what is daily activities on the 4241?
49:19
A well, I went to the bathroom once.
49:22
Ha ha. Ha.
49:27
Just once huh? It is for 45 minutes it's girl
49:35
and Facebook where, you know, I was watching the Moana for the
49:39
183 third time, you know, Ransom loves that.
49:49
I'm pulling up the chief here right now.
49:52
I remember it but I don't remember it.
49:55
Daily activities scanner, set up activities, complete trip report
50:01
form, 42, 40, and end of shift office activities.
50:05
So you're in the shift time will be in there all the time.
50:08
You're doing safety service dogs.
50:11
No. Safety service talks have their
50:13
own Square, then what? It's under daily activities.
50:18
If you look at your office volume, the rural route
50:22
evaluation sheet, which is the 42 41.
50:26
M, they have it underneath daily activities.
50:32
Basically, it's your office time.
50:34
Yes, yes. And the cliff notes version.
50:38
Second question, from the same person.
50:40
What's the current EMA rate? Great EMA, right?
50:43
Is ninety one point five cents, per mile.
50:48
Next adjustment will be first part of July.
50:54
It released in about end of June mid to late June.
51:00
Okay. Was there any other one that we
51:03
missed? You got one that one I found.
51:08
How do we handle getting jury duty?
51:16
Twice on Facebook. I figured I'd throw it in there.
51:19
So if we met somebody gets summoned for jury duty, how do
51:22
you handle it management? And what is man plays supposed
51:25
to do? I was a say, you are contact
51:29
your clerk of the court and ask them to send a summons to you.
51:41
You have to be, you have to be a full-time regular carrier to get
51:44
jury duty pay though. We are only our see, it only get
51:52
the get the RCA's, only get the day off for it.
51:55
They don't get paid for it. Regular carriers to get paid for
51:58
it. And when you get the jury duty,
52:02
some did you give it to your supervisors, and go to go there
52:05
for today? And when the court selects you
52:10
or doesn't select you, if they don't select you, you turn
52:12
around and you get your check from the court.
52:15
And you give it to the post office in the post office.
52:17
Pays you for the full day you for performing your jury duty
52:21
service. If you're there for any more
52:23
than one day than any check, you get from the court, goes to the
52:27
post office and the post office, pays you, your full, repeal
52:30
e-rate for every day, you serve on jury duty.
52:35
And there is a DACA code for jury duty.
52:44
All right, I have another one that I have found that was sent
52:47
to us on Thursday. I know you guys are busy with
52:51
your own disputes of stuff, but I can't get a clear answer.
52:54
Is there any way to know if when the clerk's can Parcels under
52:59
static during the week? If it still counts towards the
53:03
route for office time? I number one, question is, why
53:06
are clerk scanning Parcels under static during the week?
53:13
By its side of the same questions.
53:15
I have not heard anything in regards to a resolution to that.
53:21
I know there was a step before that the union had put forward
53:26
because anything that was scanned in as static or dynamic
53:33
was not showing up in your numbers towards your route.
53:41
You know, at Christmas time when they have The extra help come
53:44
into just run Parcels. That's they would grow them
53:48
under the static or dynamic routes.
53:52
So they could just send the person out and it would give
53:56
them the term, my turn for the whole, the whole, you know,
54:00
regardless of what route that package came from.
54:04
Like I said, I don't know if they've gotten that corrected,
54:06
but I know there is a step. For ending being heard on that.
54:14
Well, we also run into a problem when we're short of City
54:18
carriers that in the, you know, when they're splitting up the
54:20
routes, the clerks will turn around and do a static Run for
54:24
the, the split routes, but we've come to an agreement.
54:27
That the can't be done until all pars Parcels are processed for
54:31
Rural NZ. Carrier says there's no
54:33
confusion and no convolution of the Statics being put into the
54:39
role of a at any time. Yeah.
54:42
Number one, they shouldn't be scanning them in a static during
54:45
the week. That's not good.
54:47
I think if I remember they said something at mid states about
54:51
how they were going to work on getting those packages at cursos
54:55
time, put back into the route. What was going on with it?
54:59
I do not know 100% so that's all I can say on that.
55:04
And yeah they I would if you if you know for a fact that they're
55:09
scanning them is static, they're in the way.
55:11
Week, I would be getting a hold of your assigned.
55:15
Union rep. For sure.
55:21
This has been a big Hot Topic. I've seen coming around.
55:24
Lately is Kristen, are we say, if possible on that, you know,
55:30
get a hold of your District representative?
55:32
Yes, it get it, you know, because that's something a
55:37
couple. Oh, yeah.
55:39
They may tell you, refer you back to you.
55:45
But I would definitely. So, I have seen many posts.
55:59
Lots of these social webs pertaining to all of this being
56:05
an article 5 violation. The prohibition of unilateral
56:12
action. Article 5 says, the employer
56:15
will not take any actions, affecting wages hours and other
56:19
terms and conditions of employment as defined in Section
56:23
8, D of the National Labor Relations Act, which violate the
56:27
terms of this agreement or otherwise inconsistent with
56:30
obligations under the law. Route.
56:37
Evaluations do not fall under Article 5, unfortunately Article
56:45
5 would be a layoff Article 5 would be reading a table,
56:56
another party table one on a table to without telling
57:00
anybody, that sort of stuff, it would are cutting the hourly
57:05
wages. Of RCA's without an agreement.
57:10
That type of stuff would be what would fall under Article Five?
57:15
Rowdy valuations do not ever have Deciding to cut our health
57:23
care benefits would be an article 51 to say.
57:27
That being said, the union did while unfair labor charges What
57:36
exactly setting that? I don't know.
57:39
You know, what grounds they had exactly with that.
57:44
I can't speak for it. I wasn't there.
57:47
I imagine any of that paperwork. So, but there is unfair labor
57:52
charges that were filed against the post office by the.
57:55
You also, I, another article 5 would be if they took it, if
58:02
they took mail delivery from six to five days a week and it
58:06
wasn't something it Yeah, right. Evaluations do not fall under
58:12
Article, Five plain and simple self goodness.
58:18
Exactly. Yo people would sit there and
58:25
argue, well, hold on. They put this many mail survey
58:29
and in fact, my wages, my hours and conditions of my employment,
58:33
you know, but it all is falling within the terms of our
58:40
agreement. Yeah.
58:42
Since we have an agreement to the EM, you know, the Rex
58:45
program and the mini mail surveys part of that, It is null
58:50
and void in regards to affecting your wages and hours regarding
58:56
the labor law. Because we have an agreement.
58:59
In fact, with the post office that this falls under.
59:04
On this latest contract does have the Rex system listed as
59:09
its evaluation system for our page, Ms. It doesn't have any
59:14
other way to do our evaluation besides the wreck system.
59:18
Yep. Yeah.
59:19
Unless, you know and everybody wants to take the hourly fight.
59:23
Well, if you want to take it to being paid hourly if they were
59:26
switch it to Hourly without it being negotiated.
59:29
That would fall under Article 5, but unfortunately route.
59:35
Evaluations going up going down. You're not, that's not a
59:42
unilateral require unilateral action because the hell happened
59:49
to the old count system anyway. Hmm, and then, I also know that
59:55
the there is another part to that labor Recharge and that is,
59:59
I'm not providing us training. That is one of the things that
1:00:03
they're using in that labor charge.
1:00:05
I've heard through the grapevine because they didn't properly
1:00:08
trained us on the rec system, the Union's fighting for us, the
1:00:11
not only get paid to get training, but maybe even work on
1:00:16
compensation for our evaluations for not being trained.
1:00:19
So hopefully that goes through sooner than rather than later,
1:00:23
and then just like the contract, will wait eight months for them
1:00:27
to Philippe it out. Yeah, I've seen another
1:00:30
discussion that popped up about the LTM, not matching numbers,
1:00:35
where they close one box. But when they get the final
1:00:38
review at the end, it says there - five their LTM numbers, lower
1:00:43
than their edit sheet. Always buy two boxes and they
1:00:46
only have curbside. Oh, and if it's somehow, I would
1:00:51
double check as you go and update, go through and make sure
1:00:57
that That all your active boxes say active and not inactive,
1:01:02
because it does happen in the system that if it's one of those
1:01:07
boxes that gets a low volume of mail and is not service.
1:01:14
Often enough during the week the system is automatically in
1:01:17
activating it. So this is not not your at a
1:01:20
book or anything like that. It is literally the computer
1:01:23
saying well they're not getting mail other than these box
1:01:25
holders. So we're going to inactivate it.
1:01:28
I've got one of those on my route every month, I have to go
1:01:31
in and reactivate it because all they get a box holders but they
1:01:35
want their box holders, so it's an active box.
1:01:38
Yeah, that would be the big on where your numbers aren't
1:01:42
matching is. System is automatically in
1:01:45
activating a box when it should be active, if it's active on
1:01:49
your end, but it's, yeah, I've seen that.
1:01:52
I actually have one that I have to inactivate all the time
1:01:55
because it still pops up as active even though I have it
1:01:58
inactive in my edit book and have for a while, it still will
1:02:02
pop up as active and I just kind of laugh because they don't even
1:02:05
have a mailbox. But the word would be placed if
1:02:12
that was a mailbox that would go in would actually be under a
1:02:16
mailbox grouping. Out of mail.
1:02:19
Stop because they're all separate post but a mailbox
1:02:21
grouping. I think that's what's keep
1:02:23
kicks. It back active in the system.
1:02:30
I want you to go back to where bills always fighting with
1:02:32
management. Go right ahead, it's all yours.
1:02:38
Makes me laugh because you know every day you know, it's about
1:02:44
all. I mean, yeah, from people,
1:02:45
working off the clock you come in, your DPS, has and up.
1:02:49
And some carriers are over here to getting their DPS.
1:02:51
And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, go check with the supervisor, see
1:02:55
if bad clerks available, if not, then they can get a sub to put
1:02:58
it up on a yellow on the 13-14, a whatever.
1:03:01
But, you know, don't handle it until you get authorization as,
1:03:05
you know, you Crossing crafts and this mail supposed to be For
1:03:08
us. Yeah, it's yeah, like the
1:03:11
handoffs, okay. We inadvertently know which
1:03:16
route is getting a hand off, you know it you know if I get a
1:03:19
mistrial my hampered usually the route next to me or wanting a
1:03:22
little across the way and we're not getting credit for that.
1:03:26
So you know we turned around and said okay since we're not
1:03:28
getting credit for this we're going to turn around and have a
1:03:31
common area which we got time for the put mr.
1:03:34
Owned parcels and then they come over and scream at you and say
1:03:38
it's right next to you. Yes, I know that, but that's not
1:03:41
where I'm supposed to put it. You know, if you're if you're
1:03:45
gonna fight with management, you know, make sure you have the
1:03:49
right footing to make your case that you have a solid argument.
1:03:53
You know, people come in blue, clock in our scanners week.
1:03:57
Then we do and make the manual entry on the 4240.
1:04:02
Then you get your keys, you go out and you check your truck,
1:04:04
you don't start it up and just, you know, okay, it starts up,
1:04:07
you know, check your blinkers, check your wipers, check your
1:04:09
worn once a week. Get somebody to check your
1:04:12
backup lights, your brake. Not because you're paid to do
1:04:14
that. Don't come at 10:30 and tell the
1:04:17
supervisor, your truck won't start.
1:04:19
Because then that's on you. And I can't I can't help you
1:04:23
with that fight, but when it comes, to getting things fixed,
1:04:28
okay? Now, we're now we have an
1:04:30
argument. Now, we have, you know, a
1:04:32
situation where you can get another truck and please for god
1:04:36
sakes. Don't sit there and say, I want
1:04:39
the truck. The sub has the truck is
1:04:42
assigned to the route, not the carrier.
1:04:45
Exactly end of statement period. There is no discussion They
1:04:53
either have a truck or they don't have a truck that's on
1:04:55
them. So when it comes to you
1:04:59
confronting management, okay? Make sure, you know what you're
1:05:03
confronting them about. Make sure that there are
1:05:06
articles of disagreement vertica National agreement that you can,
1:05:11
you know, show or you can come to me and I'll show them and
1:05:15
illustrate, you know, we have people if you want to go back to
1:05:18
this, the MMS, the mini mail survey and they want to
1:05:22
question. Whether their management has
1:05:24
been trained. Just point out that you BBM in
1:05:27
the DPS that nobody knew all the way up the district and National
1:05:32
level, whether we should be getting counted.
1:05:35
So how is somebody going to sit there and tell me a local
1:05:38
person? Had any idea about that
1:05:43
management at the local level? For my experience, okay?
1:05:48
For the most part are not there because of the fact that they're
1:05:51
knowledgeable. They're there because they will
1:05:55
do whatever it takes to keep their job.
1:05:57
So they don't have to do a route.
1:06:01
Management when they turn around and say, we have an open route
1:06:06
and they walk away. They expect our subs to split
1:06:09
the route up to figure out how to do it.
1:06:12
That's a big No-No until you get directions from Management on
1:06:15
what to do and what has to be done.
1:06:17
And who's taking what do not volunteer to do it on your own?
1:06:21
I know it's an inconvenience and it's taking a while for my
1:06:25
office to come to this realization but it is
1:06:28
Management's responsibility to dictate the terms.
1:06:31
Terms of how to handle an open route.
1:06:36
Management management management until you make them.
1:06:39
Do their jobs, they're not going to do it. so every day, when I
1:06:45
go in DPS is enough, I walk over and say, you have clerks for the
1:06:50
DPS know, then I walk away I don't want to have another
1:06:55
discussion beyond that and then when a carrier goes put up, no,
1:06:59
you're not going to do that. We had a guy go out for 3 months
1:07:02
because he tripped on the webbing and broke his hip.
1:07:07
Don't do anything, you're not authorized to do, don't
1:07:11
volunteer for anything like like our carrier discretion, wouldn't
1:07:16
say Get it in writing, get round, stamped get it signed The
1:07:23
proof is in the pudding folks and we know our jobs better than
1:07:27
they know there's and every day I say we could work this post
1:07:32
office day in and day out From Here to Eternity without
1:07:35
management. They can't do it without us.
1:07:39
I agree 100% of that. The only thing I would change of
1:07:45
what you just said, is nobody love you.
1:08:09
Where's the 1234? Yep.
1:08:13
Hey Bill. This one's, this one's for you,
1:08:16
Bill. I came across scrolling through
1:08:21
the group here, just kind of going over stuff.
1:08:23
It's been a while. I haven't been in, there's as
1:08:26
much as I have in the past just because everything going on
1:08:30
lately is lacking, you know, that insurance paperwork and
1:08:36
stuff. Is there any scenario where the
1:08:39
current and RLC a vice president has Not get voted in as
1:08:45
president. No.
1:08:57
Is there a current scenario that can can happen?
1:09:00
Yes. But it hasn't happened.
1:09:05
That's going to come down to how your delegation votes.
1:09:08
Yep. And the people running and the
1:09:11
be home, you voted to go to the delegation.
1:09:14
Yes. And actually control the only
1:09:16
way the vice president becomes president is if the president
1:09:21
dies or resigns, and that is until there's a vote.
1:09:30
Well this just says, where the the because the current vice
1:09:33
president is running for president that we do know, does
1:09:37
not get voted in as president that would all depend on.
1:09:41
Who else runs for president? Now, if he was to go
1:09:46
uncontested, it would be a unanimous, another hand-me-down
1:09:53
position. Yes.
1:09:54
Yes, if they are contested, then it will go to a vote and it's
1:10:02
got to be a 230 two-thirds majority vote.
1:10:05
Correct. Yes, yes, and secret ballot.
1:10:10
Secret ballot. And that would depend on who you
1:10:14
voted for as delegates, from your state, to go to Nacional
1:10:19
and vote or anything these voting on, hmm. well, that would
1:10:27
be the scenario would be you have the right delegates in
1:10:31
there and the right people running that they vote for those
1:10:35
running against That's the only scenario there is and with that
1:10:41
in mind with 25 years experience in this in this Union, okay?
1:10:48
I've never seen a situation where you just hand me down your
1:10:53
position as much as this Union does.
1:10:56
And we have followed the same path for 25 years as far as
1:11:00
policy pay and everything else in regards to how the national
1:11:05
board operates. Folks, it's got to change.
1:11:11
We've got to get more protection for the carrier's.
1:11:14
Whether Union or not, whether they, they're, they're active
1:11:17
members or not. For people who are outspoken and
1:11:21
the timid ones, we have to get more carrier protection out.
1:11:25
There, there are. There are so many horror
1:11:27
stories, about people being threatened, you know, discipline
1:11:33
harangued work, the death that, you know, It breaks my heart to
1:11:38
hear some of these things because of the fact that in my
1:11:41
office, I don't let that happen. And, you know, it's a shame.
1:11:46
Everybody doesn't have a Bill Maher or Kristin.
1:11:49
He had to stand up for They just you need to step up and learn
1:11:55
your stuff. You need to learn your craft.
1:11:57
You need to learn your job and learn your duties as a rural
1:12:01
carrier and not only protect yourself and protect your fellow
1:12:05
carriers. If you know, something's not
1:12:07
right. Talk with your fellow carriers
1:12:09
and be like, look, this should be changed.
1:12:12
Get your you get with your designated union, rep work with
1:12:15
them. Get them involved in your
1:12:17
office. Yourself within the contract
1:12:22
confines because you are the union, whether you are
1:12:28
dues-paying or non-news paying, you are the rural carrier Union.
1:12:32
It is your duty. As a union, member to protect
1:12:36
your job and your fellow carriers jobs, whether whether
1:12:41
you like that person or not. Because if are there, if they're
1:12:45
allowing management to do it managers going to say well so
1:12:49
and so is doing it. Why can't you you know, it's
1:12:54
funny because, you know, I compare the post office to the
1:12:58
The View and Jerry Springer mixed into one but
1:13:22
but you know, But I've never seen such a situation where I
1:13:32
felt like I was back in school, you know?
1:13:34
And and you had the resident bully and that's management if
1:13:39
you don't if you don't stand up to the bully, they pick on
1:13:42
everybody, especially the weak ones.
1:13:44
You always pick on the weak ones.
1:13:46
So we have to be the advocates for the victims and then we have
1:13:51
to educate the victims, explain them.
1:13:53
They explain to them, they have rights that they have you know,
1:13:57
a contractual Agreement in there to prevent this type of
1:14:00
harassment. This type of hostile work
1:14:03
environment. They don't have to tolerate it
1:14:07
and we have to stand up to the bullies.
1:14:11
And I'll tell you what, I enjoy it.
1:14:15
I'll do we all enjoy it. Here, we are on a holiday
1:14:20
weekend, giving up our time to help you.
1:14:23
Well, now it's time to help yourselves to Speaking of
1:14:28
contractual rights and back to the mid states question.
1:14:33
Was it asked? And or was anything said about
1:14:37
the status of the arcane Okay. Yeah, I forgot that should not
1:14:56
be named. Yeah, I think it went into the
1:15:00
same file, receptacle that the database That was supposed to be
1:15:06
on the NRL, see a website for everybody to view their route
1:15:10
data went so shit. I don't I don't think I do Their
1:15:16
server has enough capacity for that.
1:15:51
I'm an RCA our office recently started doing Amazon Sundays,
1:15:56
I'm sorry. I've been wondering about this,
1:15:59
so they use two of us. Every Sunday and then a third
1:16:03
has to be on the bubble, which means you have to get up and sit
1:16:07
and watch the phone to see if you will be needed.
1:16:09
So you can't make any plans for the day but you may end up not
1:16:13
working or making a dime, either one of our city carriers
1:16:17
mentioned. He thought we should have to be
1:16:19
paid show up. All time or something like that.
1:16:22
Now, whining. It is what it is, if it's part
1:16:24
of the job, fine, just wondering if he's right since all of this
1:16:29
is new in our office. Alright, Amazon Sundays, if
1:16:35
you're not on the schedule and they don't call you on Saturday
1:16:39
saying we need you tomorrow for Amazon, you're now sitting by
1:16:44
the phone. If they are requiring you to sit
1:16:48
by that phone, then you need to contact your union rep.
1:16:53
And you need to get paid for a minimum of two hours to be on
1:16:58
call. If they say you're scheduled to
1:17:05
possibly come in but just wait for us to call, you know, if
1:17:10
your scheduled you go in, they'll have to pay you two
1:17:14
hours for you being scheduled to go in.
1:17:18
Now, in my office, yo, when the sub is off on a Monday to
1:17:23
Saturday, they've asked questions about that and there
1:17:28
is no on call status. Okay, so if they don't call you
1:17:32
15 minutes before the start of the shift or 15 minutes a
1:17:35
started ship, you go enjoy your day when it comes to Amazon
1:17:40
Sunday, if you're not on the schedule, you're not on the
1:17:43
schedule. And if they call you, you don't
1:17:47
have to pick up the phone, that's up to you.
1:17:49
It's Carrie discretion. On pair of the postal manuals
1:17:54
management is supposed to be in the office, prior to carrier
1:17:59
arrival, to be able to tell who's going to be there and
1:18:03
who's not be able to log in and check light blue and make sure
1:18:06
that people didn't call off through the 800 number things
1:18:10
like that and be able to call people.
1:18:12
And that's what they're supposed to Liam 38, yes, supposedly.
1:18:19
That's what they're supposed to do.
1:18:22
But we all know management doesn't follow that either.
1:18:25
So it's carrier discretion. Its carrier job job just working
1:18:33
description states that you should be available upon short.
1:18:37
Notice does not say that you are on call until such-and-such time
1:18:42
or wait by your phone. Oh, if you're not scheduled, And
1:18:49
like I said, they don't contact. Don't forget.
1:18:52
Yeah. If they're going to force you to
1:18:54
tell you that you need to wait for your by your phone and you
1:18:57
need to be compensated for that. Imagine this example here of
1:19:03
another Union that has in basically an on-call policy for
1:19:08
their members and that's the railroad.
1:19:12
One of the railroads has an on-call policy that we will call
1:19:15
you and you have two hours to report.
1:19:19
So even if you're doing something, you have two hours to
1:19:22
show up at the facility. So, take with from that, what
1:19:28
you will, but that's short notice.
1:19:32
Yeah, being called protein called in being called in.
1:19:37
Is part. Unfortunately, part of the RCA
1:19:40
job is being called in, but sometimes life happens.
1:19:45
And unfortunately, your life should come first before the
1:19:48
post office because the post office was there before you
1:19:51
joined in, in the post, office will be there after you leave
1:19:55
your when you die or when life, part of leaving.
1:20:00
But when you die, your manager is going to show up at your
1:20:02
funeral and ask you why you're not at work?
1:20:04
Yeah, I make big shoes on and leave.
1:20:06
Slip to. Yeah.
1:20:08
Yeah. I mean we have
1:20:23
I remember this show is for entertainment purposes, only
1:20:29
when I started there was another RCA. you was all one particular
1:20:39
day morning and from he got up early, six hours, starting at
1:20:43
6:00, all the way up to eight thirty like every half hour
1:20:50
called to see if they need them and they kept telling them no no
1:20:54
no, no nose, go at 8:45, you decided to Go and do what he
1:21:01
wanted to do for the day at 10:30.
1:21:04
When the post office, supervisor tried calling them to have them,
1:21:07
come in. And he didn't answer or told or
1:21:12
no at that point because there's already in the middle of
1:21:16
something. When she try it, when they try
1:21:19
to discipline them for it. He's like I called you at 6:00
1:21:25
6:30, 7:00, 7:30 8:00 and 8:30. Why didn't you call it?
1:21:31
Tell me coming in any of those six times.
1:21:33
I called. See if you needed help. and was
1:21:37
able to get out of it, but They expected him on that short
1:21:43
notice to come in and, you know, if he did not answer for
1:21:48
actually, I think he didn't answer the phone and they tried
1:21:50
to ask him why he didn't answer his phone, that he was supposed
1:21:53
to know, he was supposed to come in when they called him.
1:21:57
But because he didn't answer, he was, they couldn't say he
1:22:00
declined work. I loved ones that like that.
1:22:04
There's slam dunks. Oh my God.
1:22:10
All right, guys. Ready?
1:22:11
Wind it down for this evening. Okay.
1:22:16
Okay, so well, I was going to say none of us have to go to
1:22:21
work tomorrow, but I actually do have to go to work tomorrow.
1:22:25
I have to go case flats for 2 hours.
1:22:27
So yeah, that's what I have to do tomorrow.
1:22:31
So we'll try traffic, won't be bad.
1:22:34
Yeah, I can walk to work, it's all good.
1:22:37
Alright, certain the time we get out, so yeah, I get up early
1:22:43
tomorrow and go down and clean the memorial grounds down there
1:22:47
in West Town. So nice part of my service.
1:22:51
Yeah, we have our Memorial Day parade starts at the time we get
1:22:55
out from doing our thing. And of course, the parade route
1:22:59
runs right in front of the post office.
1:23:01
So, I think I just might walk tomorrow so I don't have to
1:23:08
worry about traffic at all. Will you get done?
1:23:11
You step outside. Watch the parade and then go
1:23:13
home. Yeah, I can watch it as I walk
1:23:16
home. Is that it's only what 2/10,
1:23:21
maybe three tenths of a mile so it's all good.
1:23:28
All right. Mike, any last bits from you
1:23:32
tonight? But rather we should.
1:24:00
Thank God. It's, so it's those people who
1:24:05
made that sacrifice that provide us our freedoms today.
1:24:09
So think about that tomorrow. Having steak week everyone.
1:24:14
Thank you. Mike Josh.
1:24:21
I would say, I don't know if I can top that.
1:24:26
But it's not a competition. Yeah, I know.
1:24:32
Yeah. Just, you know, keep in mind,
1:24:37
however, you decide to celebrate Memorial Day.
1:24:40
What it's, you know, the intent of vawa day, is to remember
1:24:46
those. Who paid the ultimate sacrifice
1:24:49
for the freedoms that we do have?
1:24:52
Not looking forward to Tuesday. Try not to get overwhelmed.
1:24:57
If you do take a step back, take a deep breath.
1:25:01
And step back in there and have a good week, everyone.
1:25:05
Ames. As everyone said, we're
1:25:09
remembering those who chose to give the ultimate sacrifice were
1:25:14
brave enough to give the ultimate sacrifice and we're
1:25:19
willing to give the ultimate sacrifice No Matter What
1:25:24
conflict whether the community supported at the time or not,
1:25:29
they gave their lives for this country so that we may enjoy the
1:25:34
simple things like this podcast. and it is to those, that we Get
1:25:42
need to give the greatest respect those that gave the
1:25:46
ultimate sacrifice. It's on that note on that note,
1:25:53
I wish everybody a good week at work.
1:25:56
If you have any problems or issues you need to talk with
1:25:59
somebody about especially if issues arise like we talked
1:26:04
about in the last podcast Reach Out fellow co-workers, your
1:26:10
family or any of the other resources available.
1:26:16
And just have a wonderful week, everybody and we'll see you in
1:26:19
the next one. Builder.
1:26:23
Your last final commentary for this evening?
1:26:26
Well, you know how it's going to end it but after all those,
1:26:31
yeah, we ever heard of men and women
1:26:52
Sacrifice so much for people. They've never known never met.
1:26:58
Never will meet people in the future and they've guaranteed us
1:27:03
to the rights and freedoms that we enjoy every day.
1:27:08
Even the ones that they wouldn't agree with it, didn't matter.
1:27:12
And they paid the price for us to have these rights and
1:27:17
freedoms. So use them judiciously, not
1:27:21
viciously, not for your own self-interest.
1:27:25
But for the common good of all men and women.
1:27:30
Everybody. Remember the sacrifice and act
1:27:35
accordingly. With that everybody be safe,
1:27:40
Tuesdays and be heavy. Just remember you're the most
1:27:43
important delivery of the day. Get home to your loved ones
1:27:47
because people have laid their lives now.
1:27:50
So that you can have the freedoms that you enjoy the job
1:27:54
that you have and the family to go home to, and the family will
1:27:59
never see again. With that.
1:28:01
God bless you all. Thank you, guys could have said
1:28:06
any of that better myself and on that note bill will not be
1:28:12
joining us next weekend, you'll be missed, but please enjoy your
1:28:16
cruise. Thank you.
1:28:20
Santa Claus of Pickers. I am the continent asshole.
1:28:40
I'm sorry. I went into a local store here,
1:28:42
called boss Cobbs, which is a medium priced as department
1:28:48
store. A lot of nice stuff in there,
1:28:50
they are. First thing I do is I walk in, I
1:28:52
find a male salesperson and I said, excuse me, I says where
1:28:57
your thongs. He goes, oh, they're over in the
1:28:59
shoe section, I said, no thongs. By the time I turned around my
1:29:05
wife is already 30 feet away and this guy was giving me a look
1:29:11
like get the hell away from me to get that.
1:29:16
Best Nieto for the pool on the cruise ship.
1:29:19
So baby it says skin tight. You can see my cellulite.
1:29:30
Everybody. Stay safe.
1:29:35
We'll be back - Bill. Next week.
1:29:39
Men supposedly don't feel good night, everybody.
1:29:49
Good night.