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Hot Topics: Andy Gushes Over K. Michelle, Porsha Says She’s in Love, Married to Medicine & Is Yandy Cheating? · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Rain drops Yandy.
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  Speaker 3: On the recent episode of Love and Hip Hop Atlanta,
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  Speaker 3: The girls asked her is it true that she was
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  Speaker 3: cheating on in DC.
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  Speaker 2: As you all know, Yandy's.
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  Speaker 3: Best friend slash former employee. I don't know his title.
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  Speaker 3: I think assistant, it could have been something else. He
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  Speaker 3: revealed that Yandy was messing around with this man and
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  Speaker 3: as you all know, it blew up the internet. For
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  Speaker 3: the first time Yandy has discussed on the show, and
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  Speaker 3: she said Claudia that.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't consider it cheating. That her and min DC.
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  Speaker 3: Had a conversation about where they were in their relationship,
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  Speaker 3: and she said that they pretty much had an understanding
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  Speaker 3: that they both were allowed to see other people. And
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  Speaker 3: number one, she's not legally married Number two. Yes, they
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  Speaker 3: do live together with their children, but she said she
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  Speaker 3: does not consider it cheating because they were allowed to
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  Speaker 3: see other people.
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  Speaker 2: Claudia, do you agree with that notion that this is
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  Speaker 2: not cheating?
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  Speaker 4: Of course black women don't cheat.
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  Speaker 5: Oh ooh, I like this like no.
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  Speaker 4: And first of all, if we do cheat, we cheated. Second.
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  Speaker 4: If we cheat, second, it's not cheating. It's called getting
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  Speaker 4: your look back. If you cheat on me, and then
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  Speaker 4: I go, I'm not cheating on you, sir. I'm evening
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  Speaker 4: the score so I can tolerate looking at you. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. No, if you at the world knows you've
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  Speaker 4: been out on these streets and I held you down
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  Speaker 4: while you was in prison, put money on your books. No, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: Yandy's innocent, Dustin.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I'm gonna have to roll Claudia on this one. Honestly,
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  Speaker 6: Like Yandy, the way she laid that shit out, it made.
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  Speaker 4: Sense to me.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I was like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we're putting a case together. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: She had that was that was persuaded. You know what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying, So I believe in her. You know what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying, the great Yandy Hope and Ship. I agree,
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  Speaker 6: Yandy Luther King Junior. You know what I'm saying, She's
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  Speaker 6: done a lot for our people. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they want to get a little head or whatever on.
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  Speaker 2: The side lit it.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Oh, well, Ship, she hearn
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  Speaker 6: that all.
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  Speaker 4: The great vil rights leaders got a little.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the.
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  Speaker 4: Trumps, those little indiscretions here and there, the activism tax.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they said Corretta Scott King would be putting that
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  Speaker 6: roller in her hair, cutting Martin's ass out about the
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  Speaker 6: women calling that house. We all heard them rumors. So
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  Speaker 6: Yandy deserves she deserved her little head. She held it down,
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  Speaker 6: paid all the bills and ship, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 6: for them years while he was in jail, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: and then staying down, somebody want to you know, let
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  Speaker 6: somebody look on her a little bit later to go
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  Speaker 6: and do it.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Anything that happened while he
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  Speaker 4: was in prison doesn't count anyways, because on both ends.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because literally.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it's kind of like a pause.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like, uh, you know, like a break
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  Speaker 4: in the season, you know, like a part of the
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  Speaker 4: eight season, be season, the time in between. It doesn't count.
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  Speaker 4: Commercial break, it doesn't count.
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  Speaker 8: Look, man, I don't she doesn't know what happened when
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  Speaker 8: he dropped the soap. She's showed that man so much
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  Speaker 8: grace and for so long that I think if she
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  Speaker 8: can look away and keep it pushing, that he needs
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  Speaker 8: to return the favor.
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  Speaker 5: I also, it feels like.
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  Speaker 8: Ross and Rachel we were on a break that infamous
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  Speaker 8: episode from Friends.
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  Speaker 5: Do not send me back to the streets and be
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  Speaker 5: upset that the streets welcomed me back.
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  Speaker 8: How I feel right like, if you want somebody to
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  Speaker 8: be with you in a relationship, then you are together.
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  Speaker 8: If you separate that I'm separate. Words mean things. So
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  Speaker 8: I think he felt a way, but I don't think.
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  Speaker 5: She acted.
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  Speaker 2: Not like from Fresh Brits.
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  Speaker 5: Remember us different guys, it's Mercury ratche.
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  Speaker 4: Remember didn't she get the head in London? Like if
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  Speaker 4: it's overseas American soil.
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  Speaker 2: No time out, come out. Listen.
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  Speaker 7: First of all, disclaimer, obviously our Frispen Yandy in real life,
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  Speaker 7: and I love her.
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  Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with y Andy.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna say that but I gotta I gotta call
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  Speaker 7: out the ladies.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the ladies.
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  Speaker 3: If a man did this, Let's say Yandy was in
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  Speaker 3: jail for six months do to her activism.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's say and ray jobs comment.
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  Speaker 3: Let's Candy went to jail for activism and she was
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  Speaker 3: in the slammer for six to six months to a year. Right,
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  Speaker 3: if men d C cheated on Yandy with a woman
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  Speaker 3: and Columbia, this would be a very.
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  Speaker 8: That's not what happened though, No the question, that's not
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  Speaker 8: what happened. Come on, that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 2: What happened now Man.
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  Speaker 8: DC's was hauling her down and she went to jail
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  Speaker 8: and had a little nicky nicky boom boom in the
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  Speaker 8: in the thing because we know what child, you know,
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  Speaker 8: was doing whatever she was doing for them eight to
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  Speaker 8: nine months and she came out and he was aggrieved
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  Speaker 8: and said, you know, I've been through a lot and
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  Speaker 8: I just feel like we're not communicating. And they agreed
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  Speaker 8: to a break, and he gets some head on a break.
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  Speaker 8: I would actually be okay with that. To me, it's
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  Speaker 8: not a gender thing. We're on a break. Do not
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  Speaker 8: send me back to the streets and be mad the streets,
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  Speaker 8: welcome me back. The minute he agreed to a break,
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  Speaker 8: it was up and it was stuck.
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  Speaker 6: In my opinion, for me, it's a jail thing because
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  Speaker 6: the minute that he came home. I'm telling you it's
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  Speaker 6: a jail thing. And here's why. Because when man DC's
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  Speaker 6: came home and said he didn't know if he would
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  Speaker 6: hold Yandy down the way she held him down, remember
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  Speaker 6: that ship, Remember that when he came home and had
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  Speaker 6: that that that horrible ass attitude, stink ass attitude. After
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  Speaker 6: the sacrifices that Yandy made for him and for me
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  Speaker 6: and you as black people, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: You didn't sacrificed a lot. And I just thought that
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  Speaker 6: that was a very poor taste and it really made
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  Speaker 6: me look at man DC differently on that show. So
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  Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck about her cheating on him.
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  Speaker 6: That's what his ass did, the way he did her
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  Speaker 6: after she came after he came home and acted like
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  Speaker 6: what she did supporting him during that be it wasn't
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  Speaker 6: ship and.
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  Speaker 8: She didn't cheat, so you would have to worry about
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  Speaker 8: it should actually cheat again, we have a.
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  Speaker 5: Case, Carlos. It's the people versus Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: King on when you when you have the audacity to
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  Speaker 4: fix your mouth that that held you down while you
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  Speaker 4: were in and I asked you, would you have been
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  Speaker 4: the same and you him and Han and you don't
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  Speaker 4: need to say us. No, I should have cheated more.
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  Speaker 4: Actually and him.
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  Speaker 5: She should have got a head while he was in
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  Speaker 5: the room. She's lucky ideal with me.
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  Speaker 4: She should have made a sex tape. But the fact
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  Speaker 4: that it happened overseas. Listen, this is why our client
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  Speaker 4: is innocent. Carlos King. The people the client first of
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  Speaker 4: all International Soil.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, at the International Woman's Day. On top of that,
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  Speaker 5: there that.
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  Speaker 4: I moved for the court to dismiss this case against
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  Speaker 4: our client. First International Soil. Second of all, she was
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  Speaker 4: doing work for the people. She was working on behalf
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  Speaker 4: of the people who knows that the man that she
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  Speaker 4: allegedly was messed with was not a person that she
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  Speaker 4: just needed to act like she was into just so
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  Speaker 4: she can get some intel to fight the cause, to
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  Speaker 4: fight for our people. I think she was doing research
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  Speaker 4: with the African Americans Negro versus the Negro in London.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think this had anything to do with her
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  Speaker 4: own personal desires. I think it was for the people.
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  Speaker 4: I think this was a work related And then, of course,
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  Speaker 4: and because we also I'm using the Chibacca defense, we
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  Speaker 4: also need reparations. So I think she did this for
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  Speaker 4: the greater good of all of us, Like my co
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  Speaker 4: consul Dustin said here and uh yeah, And with all
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  Speaker 4: that being said, I moved to the Smiths's case against
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  Speaker 4: the answer she's innocent. And do we have a video?
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  Speaker 4: Do we have video of insertion actually taking place where
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  Speaker 4: we see a P nine going to no, we don't.
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  Speaker 4: So it's always multiple.
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  Speaker 5: This is calling you, but but it's here, isn't it here?
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  Speaker 5: Say though?
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  Speaker 4: It's you know for a fact, who says that the influence?
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  Speaker 4: And she was.
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  Speaker 8: Have you watched Dustin the entire same that video of
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  Speaker 8: the lady with the bonnet who's behind the man while
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  Speaker 8: he's arguing.
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  Speaker 5: She's like yeah, He's like yeah, that was the entire time. YEP.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why we even have this discussion. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we are in World War three, we're on the cusp,
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  Speaker 4: we're in World War through it now, and we're we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about cheating. But they have a backbone of civilized civilization.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So now what we will take her ask to
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  Speaker 6: task for is wearing a California Angels head insane? It
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  Speaker 6: is that Atlanta head in the heat of an argument.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. That's what we will take Andy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but getting your titty sucked in London, please, that is
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  Speaker 6: not love.
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  Speaker 5: It could be a drink track.
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  Speaker 4: I like that even cheating though, Like a titty suck is?
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  Speaker 4: What's that like? Maybe massage? Like that's what happensage like
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  Speaker 4: it was a massage.
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  Speaker 6: Get your freak on. Okay, that's what you do, Yandy,
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  Speaker 6: get your freak on. Baby?
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  Speaker 4: You good?
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  Speaker 3: Only because I know you are a demon type. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to post this question somebody has for you.
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  Speaker 4: Come on now, I don't like white men. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: attracted to white men. Okay, wasn't you dating?
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  Speaker 5: Wait?
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't you dating to Rudy? I don't answer questions. Where's
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  Speaker 4: the punctuation?
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  Speaker 5: And you just fly in the sky right.
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  Speaker 4: I let me tell you, Let me tell you something,
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  Speaker 4: and Dustin my friend here and Carlos can attest to
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  Speaker 4: the blue. You haven't been around my men's.
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  Speaker 5: I met one he was fine, and big I met one.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, in Vegas, Blue glue be a dust, say have
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  Speaker 9: little records saying of all of our girls, Claudia's roster
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  Speaker 9: is the best I have met.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, don't play.
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  Speaker 5: I've ran to Claudia in Vegas and there was a
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  Speaker 5: strong back man and I said, oh, I see his friends.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, my only date. Fine ship. So if you see
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  Speaker 4: old decrepit, old white man, that's me. He's probably a lawyer,
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  Speaker 4: my accountant, or my driver.
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  Speaker 6: And this is why you know these people ain't ship
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  Speaker 6: online because that person's name was Truther. Did you see
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  Speaker 6: that their name was Truther one something or whatever they
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  Speaker 6: come up with. Don't even believe in these motherfuckers online.
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  Speaker 6: They're trying to tell you that they don't know the truth.
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  Speaker 6: And all that know you don't. You just another motherfucker online.
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  Speaker 6: That's it.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I listen. Claudia got so sleep and this is
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  Speaker 7: on the back tonight. The good thing about our friendship
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  Speaker 7: is I know where Claudia sees a comment that she's
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  Speaker 7: gonna have fun with So that was all rud died you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm offended that you would think I would ever be
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  Speaker 4: with a gretlin like that. I like God and young girl,
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  Speaker 4: not like young but like you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: like not sixties and seventies and eighties.
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  Speaker 5: I don't do that.
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  Speaker 6: Remember all that ship was running down his head and
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  Speaker 6: face and on that he's a Now that's a horrible person,
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  Speaker 6: a horrible person. He looks like it. He definitely looks
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  Speaker 6: rancid and dank.
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  Speaker 4: Sweat like I've heard sweat and he got he got
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  Speaker 4: the Veneers on the top down but at the bottom.
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  Speaker 4: So the top is white and the bottom is like
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  Speaker 4: brownish brown.
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  Speaker 6: You awful?
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  Speaker 5: How did we get here? Whe's Debora cops?
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  Speaker 4: How do we get off? The thing is?
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  Speaker 2: I'm fro light the mood. Okay, So moving on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting asked for a picture right now, and hold on,
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  Speaker 4: wait from my day?
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  Speaker 2: You have a day tonight?
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  Speaker 4: No, I had one.
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  Speaker 2: And this was a part of yeah, oh yeah, are
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  Speaker 2: you still thinking him?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Part two? This weekend two?
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well guess what We'll be back next Monday
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  Speaker 2: for that.
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  Speaker 10: All right, So, Claudia Dustin and Blue Dustin, I want
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  Speaker 10: to get your first thoughts on this. So Andy Cohen
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  Speaker 10: on his radio show revealed that he has watched the
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  Speaker 10: first episode of the new season of the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 10: of Atlanta, which is airing Sunday eight Brawl fifth, which
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  Speaker 10: happens to be Easter Claudia, save the jokes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there's a.
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  Speaker 7: Joke there that I'm sure you will think about and
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  Speaker 7: stay later. But Real Housepins of Atlanta season season seventeen,
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  Speaker 7: Excuse Me, is debuting April six on Eastern Eddie Cohen
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  Speaker 7: watched the first episode and he said that he watched
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  Speaker 7: Ca Michelle and he described Ca Michelle as a superstar
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  Speaker 7: and expressed extreme excitement about her performance in the interview
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  Speaker 7: chair with y'all call Confessionals. He even went so far
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  Speaker 7: as to say her presence on the show is delight.
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  Speaker 2: Dustin, what are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 6: I believe it came Michelle as funny as hell. We
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  Speaker 6: all know that she made us last for years on
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  Speaker 6: Love and Hip Hop. You know, whether you love Camichelle
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  Speaker 6: or hey, you know, she's funny and so of course
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  Speaker 6: she's going to shine in that interview chair talking shit
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  Speaker 6: about other people. You know what I'm saying. She's good
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  Speaker 6: at that. So she's going to be entertained and she's
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  Speaker 6: gonna come with the jokes. And I believe every word
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  Speaker 6: he said, So I expect I saw that coming blue.
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  Speaker 8: I think after Angel and Them, Kay Michelle was probably
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  Speaker 8: a welcome detour because she has She's the complete That
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  Speaker 8: man has been hungry for some a while. Okay, he
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  Speaker 8: was starving, so he saw her like a big old steak. Also,
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  Speaker 8: you know, Andy, the whole time he was talking, I
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  Speaker 8: feel like you just wanted to say, I'm tickled by black
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  Speaker 8: mess like it felt real. Mister burns like he's just
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  Speaker 8: tickled by messy blackshit, so I'm sure he had him
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  Speaker 8: a time. I also don't think that Kemishell doesn't give
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  Speaker 8: you enough credit. If Ky Michelle had come out during
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: the time of Like New York and Nini, I think
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: she would actually be a contender on that Mount rushmore
• 15:45
  Speaker 8: of like reality girlies. And because she has a quickness
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: to her right and a hunger when she gets mad,
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: she gets hungry, she gonna eat your face.
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  Speaker 5: And you can't teach that. You either habit or you don't.
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  Speaker 8: So I have no doubts it's gonna be amazing. I
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  Speaker 8: will say I think that Drew has an audacity that's
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  Speaker 8: slightly delusional but excellent for reality TV. Will show see
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  Speaker 8: you know a burning building and run into it.
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  Speaker 5: Like, ooh, what's in there? So she doesn't even know
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  Speaker 5: to run from k Michelle.
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  Speaker 8: So I think the the Lulu of Drew and the
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  Speaker 8: ferocity of Ca Michelle is like a perfect storm for
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  Speaker 8: a dumpster fire of good television.
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  Speaker 5: I can't wait to see it.
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  Speaker 4: I love that he was giving a real house of
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  Speaker 4: Atlanta love, and you know, people been complaining like they
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: don't get as much of love from him, especially with
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  Speaker 4: promo pictures and redoing stuff and putting the same money into it.
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  Speaker 4: So hopefully that will change and they will get back
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  Speaker 4: to you know. I mean that is to me, that's
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  Speaker 4: the show that blew up the franchise, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean of all of them. Yeah, I think, of
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  Speaker 4: course it's gonna be entertaining. I'm looking forward to I
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: think this trailer makes last season like boring and looks
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: it's like it's gonna be. I think it looks like
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: it's like many levels up, like at first like okay,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you know, well I drawn with Britt and some of
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  Speaker 4: the stuff that fell flat towards the end. I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: forward to it. I know people came from my neck
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  Speaker 4: about saying the whole love and hip hop comparison but
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  Speaker 4: meaning energy wise, right, it's gonna be a lot of energy.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a lot of energy this year,
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  Speaker 4: and it looks like never a dull moment. I think
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  Speaker 4: it is going to be this season. That's what it
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: looks like so far. Hopefully I am not wrong, but
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  Speaker 4: it looks like that.
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  Speaker 5: Is Faedra in it.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, because we noticed that Bravo has had a
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: problem sticking the landing with bringing vets back into the fold.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: Like we mentioned how.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: The Monique comeback was kind of clunky when she came
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: back to Potomac. Phadri's comeback was kind of clunky when
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: she came back to Atlanta. So I'm just curious why
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: they seem to have such a tricky time folding the
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: vets back in. I don't know what that's about. Carlos
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: s you're the producer. Is there like a yes, yes you?
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: Is there like a science to bringing an og back
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: into the fray without it being so awkward and weird?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yes? I mean, all right, masterclass that shit. All right,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: let's go. So, first of all, that's a very good question.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: To answer your question, Yes, there is a science to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: bringing back a veteran or an og to any reality show.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: The thing is this, and I have two thoughts about it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I do think at some point there are certain people
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: who are on these shows for a long period of
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: time who should be put on palls for several reasons.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You know, whether the storyline has run dry. I don't
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: know anybody in real life that has an amazing storyline
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: every every year. It's unrealistic to think that somebody's life
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: is that interesting. We're watching the kardash I think being
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Blue baby watching.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I know, that's all. I think, Blue Blue, are you watching?
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I am alone.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I look at the Kardashians and I think, listen, you
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: can't negate what they've brought the first ten years on
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: E The Hulu show to me is nothing but a
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: commerci show for the product. It's weaken storylines. And the
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: reason why it's weakened storylines is because we've seen so
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: much from them that there's nowhere they can top what
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: they already gave us. And that's why when you look
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: at some returning vets or ogs, the reason why it
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: feels clunky or is not fitting honestly is because you
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: have to ask yourself two things. Do they have something
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: interesting going on now besides the stunt casting, besides the stunt.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Of the headline.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: We all love a good oh my god, that person's
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: back yay? Do they have enough to give us for
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: twenty weeks? And I think the mistake that producers make
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: is not casting people that Yes, this is a great announcement. However,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: is it sustainable? Is sustainable? Do they make sense in
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: this new collective? Does it make sense for them to
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: be a part of this new regime? So yes, Blue,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: there is a science to it. And that's why even
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: when you look at bringing back my bringing back excuse me,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: bringing other reality starts from other networks on these shows
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and it being a bunch of like whatever switch a
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: real crossover, it can work too if it makes sense.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: And one thing Andy said about ky Michelle, he said
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: she has real connections.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: With Portia and with Pinky Hole as well. So we'll see.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, I listen, I've said this publicly,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I hate stunt casting. I'm not going to bring somebody
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: back because it's a great announcement for a day, right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: it makes no sense. I would bring Claudia back. Claudia
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: to me, is they have the lock layer of reality
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: television and.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: What else none at all. I know, I'm dating myself.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So in case you all went to the Aaron Spelling
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: School of Television I did, you would know that Aaron
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Spelling publicly said that Heather Lockleyer was somebody who you
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: would throw in a show to make it spicy and
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: great in people to watch.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Like, I think you're that for sure. So it could work,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: but it just has to make sense.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: Also, both of those cases, specifically when it comes to
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: Monique and Phaedra, they brought them in in the middle
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: and towards the end of the season, so it already
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: felt like weird. You know what I'm saying, like both
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: of them to me, that bringing them motherfucking in me
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: season shit, that does not work to me. If you're
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: going to be a part of this show, you're part
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: of the show for the entirety of the filming schedule,
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: because it feels disjoined all last season on the Real
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Housewives of Atlanta, it had that dark ass cloud over
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: it from the whole Britty britt Edie and Kenya Moore drama.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: The season just fell off, and then Phaeder coming at
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: the end ruining everything, Like I just.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: And and Justin and I agree last year, I'm not
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: cutting just off. Yeah, listen, breaking somebody back or two
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: episodes at the end made no sense to me whatsoever.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And that's what I mean about, like just doing things
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: for the it doesn't work.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: And oh desperate. It felt very desperate the way.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Here and it didn't need that. It didn't need it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And listen, I enjoyed last season of Atlanta Housewives. I'm
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: looking forward to this season with Key Michelle and of
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: course but.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Claudia.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: It was desperate because of the whole britt Edie and
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Kenya thing. So they they do a hail Mary and thinking,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: you know, because like you know, I see the fans
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: saying Phrasier ever want her to come back? And then
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: it like so much was put on it, like she
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: was gonna come and save the day, but no one
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: could have saved the day with four episodes or whatever
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: she got. And then I kind of feel like Phaser
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: is a little bit lazy on reality TV now because
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: she feels like I'm an og and she's just because
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: she's a legacy person. She's been on the show for
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a long time, and her past reputation was enough to
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: sail on through. She was lazy. All Fad did the
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: entire season was make faces and just look down our
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: nose with a with a ridiculously blonde wig. That's it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Like that's all she did, was like, that's it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: The whole season was tossplaying her own memes. It was
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: weird to watch, like, yes, we all have Wi Fi relax,
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: it wasn't.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It was like phasier, like you know, we do know
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you have reading capabilities, You've done it in the past.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: We know you are good when it comes to that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: One of the better ones of reality television. Right, Some
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: would argue, but where was it? And again in her
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: defense and I can't believe on I'm meeving saying this,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: but when you get four episodes, you're not really ingrained
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: with the group. You're kind of getting on the tail end.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: You're trying to play ketch up. And I think when
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: you trying to come in and play catch up, you're
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: trying to you almost go too hard because you're trying
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: to make it for lost time and just be extra
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: mean or extra judge you, or whatever the thing is
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: you're doing. And it doesn't make sense why your four
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: episodes in, Like you know, it was annoying. But I
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: don't know. I think this year, with km A show
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: and all the other vets old people coming back, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: don't even think she was needed the season unless you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: gonna show us who she's really dating, what jobs she
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: really does have her life, Show us something that's real,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: not fake. Show us some something real, you know, instead
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: of just making faces. Because making faces, I mean, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: know you've signed with Willhelmina, so you think you're a model,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: But like that's just not enough to just get faced
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: on our reality show. You have to get more than that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of giving something real, rain drops Claudia dusted
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and blue. The latest update in Portsa's love life is
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: the fact that she has declaire that she is in
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: love with her girlfriend Sway. They spent time and Bollie
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: together on a three thousand dollars a night Bollie vacation.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: In this, she captioned, I love you, Claudia.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? Do you think Portia has.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Fondly found love now that she is with this woman
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: when she's been with me and.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Her whole life? Pashi Claudia, how does it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: What Candy say?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: She puts to be.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: Candy been told.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: And Candy would know, Claudia, I'm not doing if they're
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: with you, you tell that we're not about doing Stardi
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: That mean with Diddy and the guy in the conversation
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: at each other, Pushy, come on, that's your Bessie.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: You know you.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: Know I don't know what anyone all.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Listen. She's been married twice to men.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: This is the first public relationship she has having a female,
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: and a lot of people are making a big notion
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: that she did say I love you as they are
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: on a three thousand dollars a night vacation in Bali.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: So do you do you think now that she's with
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: a woman? Could that have been the missing pieces and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: her love?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Huzzle?
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Can I shoot her some bell real quick? Because I
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: have actually been in Bali with a stunt so I
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: actually have.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: You know, mother has lived, and I'm gonna tell you
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: they're very convincing. I too, thought I was in love
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: until I got home. So let's see where we are
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: by June.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: She looks You're always happy in the beginning of relationship.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: But who help the word love bombing. Okay, look at
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: the word love bombing.
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: Because I saw the videos. We would have all been
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: in love. Okay, I know what, I'm not even joking.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: I have been in body with the stead.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I hope she doesn't see that. I'm not talking about you,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: but like it's one of those things where the vibe
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: beyond me.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: I have a friend who even said she was like,
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: watching you be be pan has made me realized I
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: want a straight man who dates in courts like a lesbian.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Oh well, lesbian is going great vacations they do. They
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: do it right, great vacations and they move fast too.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Everybody knows the joke about the U haul and all
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: that ship like. So, I like to me, this tracks
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: this is what relationships like that look like. You know
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So and Porscha All Porscha dies head
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: first with no planet ended god Pora dies head first
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: into relationships anyway. You know what I'm saying. We've seen
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: her do it. We've seen her do it multiple times.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: She even did it with Simon, So you know what
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like, yeah, typical.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Oh a self made millionaire Okay, I sway does seat listen?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know sway. I just met her at the
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: premiere real quick. She seems cool. I mean, and you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's love bombing or not. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: don't know those people like that, and anything I say
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: is to me taking us hate whatever. But listen, I
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: we all can attest to the beginning of a relationship
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: and the first six months feels so good no matter
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: who it is. So only time will tell. We'll find
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: out on the on the show. But it looks like
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: they're happy, and you know, it looks like they're happy.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think this is the first time she's been
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: with a woman. I don't. I mean, Candy even said it,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And hey, if she likes it,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I love it. And if women for loss and men
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: for money, this stuff has both.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: And.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: It also is just so high happens that it was
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: right on time to have a good storyline. Damn No,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: you can kilty words at one stone, like I love
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: this person or I like them a lot, and we're
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: starting in two weeks Like that's boss, what's up? You
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like it's like a win win.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: But I do think she does a happy But she
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: also looked very happy with Simon, and she also looked
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: very happy with Dennis. And she also looked happy with
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: that NBA guy, and she also looks happy. But I
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: think Porch is like a like a free spirit, like
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: she's like, you know what whatever, Like this makes me
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: feel good. So I'm going with it. I listen, Yo,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: they gonna find that way to make this hate. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: am not hating. Like I said in the beginning the show, Love.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Wins, No Love Win.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Dustin is so proud of you right now, a proud.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Happy like yeah, I just you know, look, Portions seemed
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: happy to me. They having a good ass time in body.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: Even if she is using the girl Sway. That's her name, right,
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: Sway is her partner's name. Yeah, she's using Sway for
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: a storyline, then Sway be used like like being with us.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: It use me up there if that means I get
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: to go on fabulous vacations, sleep with you, you know
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, and be on TV Win Win Win,
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I ain't mad at
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: neither one of them personally.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's fake. I don't think it's fake
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: at all. I do think that I think they're into
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: each other. I don't think it's say at all.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's fake either. And I mean, I.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Not to give away it was gonna happen this season,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: because obviously we need to watch every episode. But what
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I do believe you already saw on the trailer, so I'm.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Not saying anything too much. You will see a transition,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: Saying in the beginning, Yeah, and then yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: so you'll you'll see the transition and the progression of it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: She looks happy with him too, like really happy. So
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I think he's just a happy person. Oh I'm being
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: a hater. Oh my god, I'm sorry.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: She looks Listen, it looks like it's gonna be a
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: fun season for her.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Look she's in love and I listen.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I do want to ask you this, Dustin, because one
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: of the topics, I mean, not the topics. One of
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the comments was people saying that is an e it
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: appears to be socially acceptable for women to dip in
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and out of the lady pod, that she could date
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: a woman and then date man and nobody bats an eye,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: but that God forbid if a man decides to dip
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: in the man pod, he's forever considered gay and there's
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: no there's no celebratory notions for that. Do you think
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: there is some truth to that?
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: That's all facts. People look at it totally differently, and
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: it just is what it is, and it's fucked up
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: and unfair, and it's the cause of a lot of
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: people having secretive behavior, you know what I'm saying, because
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: of the stigmas and shit and the judgment that is
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: attached to homosexual activity period, you know what I'm saying.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: So it takes a lot of bravery to just be
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: gay and live your life out here, out in the open,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And a lot of people,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: because of the double standard and because of all the
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: things that work against you, you know what I'm saying,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: they don't do that. But yes, I believe that's absolutely true.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: They think it's sexy when girls mess around, and they
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: think it's disgusting when gods mess around. That's the reality.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: That's the world we live in. So sucks, but you
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: know that's just the way it is. Yep, we got Carlos,
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: We ain't none, but some week some homos Forever.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Carlos yet forever. Listen, I literally have no desire to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: be with a woman. I I don't.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I don't rise to the occasion when I'm around women.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's soft like Pillsbury dope. Boy.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: We're no woman that can make it hard.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And listen, of course with Ronnie Carlo has a crush
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: of Porsche and you know that's.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Our thing or whatever.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: But actual, like rising to the occasion, my ship will
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: be soft like mashed potatoes.
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: Hey, Claudia, wait a minute, So we have two gay
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: men and straight women in the pan sexual Is it
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: like a glad Ward that we can be up for?
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Because I feel like that's what I'm saying.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I love us that I love us though. All right,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: two more stories before we go tonight. Update on the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Windy Eddie Oscepho case. Last week was the finale of
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: the season of Potomac. However, last he was also the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: latest update and the Wendy at Eddie trial but not
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: trial case. They haven't gone the trial yet. The latest
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Quaudia doesn't in blue and I'll start with you Blue
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: is the fact that Wendy and Eddie have both been
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: awarded to try to be tried separately, it would not
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: be tried together. Wendy wanted an immediate trial. They weren't
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: able to do that. Eddie, on the other hand, wanted
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: to wait until he and his team got everything together
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: and for his trial to not be immediate.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: He was granted his so blue.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Of course, since they have both been arrested, there's been
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: tons of rumors, especially since we saw the scene where
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Wendy did ask.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: About the state of their marriage. People are saying that
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: them asking for separate trials could mean that Eddie is
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: going to take the fall for it and allow Wendy
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: to stay home to.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Raise the kids.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Question your question, do you do you do you agree
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: with that notion?
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: I think that in the vein of like the Eugenes
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: of the world, Mauricio before he left, and all the
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: great husbands before them, that there are certain men when
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: they have a wife who's going to be on a
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: reality show, there's certain conversations that I'm sure that it
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: has had within the marriage about what this means for
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: the relationship.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Right It's almost like if you have a star athlete
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: in your.
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: Family or a big old actress who's going to be
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: the next you know, Denzel in.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Your family, the entire ecosystem kind of rises.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: To support that person who's going to take them all
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: someplace new.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I think that Eddie loves his wife. I do believe that.
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: I think she adores him. I think that he's already
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: taken a fall for her when it came to his family,
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: so he's not unfamiliar to sacrificing for her and their
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: family and strategically speaking, us getting you out the way first,
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: so we even know what we're working with. Like, if
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: you are innocent, great, I'll take the brunt of it
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: and try to see if I can get an innocent
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: verdict as well. If you are guilty, then we have
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: to scramble and figure something out. I think this is
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: proof that they're working as a unit, whether he's taking
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: a fall or not. To me, it's proof that they're
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: being strategic and working as a unit. And I probably
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: I think watching Teresa and Joe Judice from New York
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: and seeing how that worked out, it's so wonderful that
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: they're going to be separated because you have two chances
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: that keep the family intact.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: If it was a one and done, that would.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: Be really horrible for the kids. I think we often
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: forget about the kids, right. These are children who are
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: going to have to go to school and be made
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: fun of. These are kids who are gonna have to
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: see their parents in the headlines. You know that borrowing
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: people's iPads, regardless of the childlocks to see what's being said.
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: And I think this speaks to him being a good
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: husband and a good father. And if he does take
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: the fall, I don't think that necessarily means that they
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: are guilty. I know we all kind of cackled about
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: Pam Oliver and the six seven and all that other stuff,
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: But on the chance that they're actually innocent, they're trying
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: to figure out a way to keep their family together.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: And so if the word fall for me feels more
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: like cahoots, I think they're being strategic about how to
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: keep the family unit intact. And I applaud it. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: applaud it, and I do think Wendy's films were real.
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: I do think Andy's devastated. He does have faves.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: You can tell that Wendy is one of his.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: Faves, and if she comes back, I want her to
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: get the same treatment that Karen didn't squandered. If she
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: comes back, there were out the red carpet for her
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: the way they differ Karen, because watching all these jailbirds
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: on these different franchises, I think Wendy's already from a
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: dignity that some of the other girls have been lacking.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Previous three Wendy Claudia.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Blue. I think that even if
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: it's not him taking the fall, it's two chances to
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: get in it a not guilty verdict. I mean, if
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: it's together, like you know, one band one found okay,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: they're gonna find us guilty. We're both going down right
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: and again, like she said, even if they're innocent, there's
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: still there's plenty of people that are in prison that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: have had that are not quote you know, quote unquote guilty.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Two chances to get off, two chances, and it's hard
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: to get a conviction, right, Like they have to have
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: beyond proven beyond reasonable doubt. Right. So I think that
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: this is a smart move. I think it's smart to
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: separate them and have two chances of saving their family.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I agree one hundred percent. I agree one
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: hundred percent with Claudia and Blue. It was definitely well
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: applied strategy to me to even seek that that they
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: be tried separately, and it's what you're supposed to do.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: They they're going to have to figure out a way
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: to manage this circumstance in the worst case scenario, you
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: know what I mean. And that's what it looks like.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Separating the trials, just putting the pieces is in place
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: to have some sort of plan, you know what I'm saying.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: And so I think that's exactly what they were supposed
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: to do in that position.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: And isn't it where you if you're married to someone,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: you can't you can't be forced to testify against your spouse.
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're protected protestifying against them and also seeing what
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: they what they do for her will help them with
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: his case because they're going to do their best shot
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: with Wendy. So whatever they try with her, they can
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: then use to figure out a game plan for Eddie.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is great for the defense, I believe.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: So there's no date set yet for the trial since
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Wendy requested her.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: To be immediate and Eddie wants more time. So we'll
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: keep you guys updated, but that's the latest. With that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Our last story of the night is the latest update
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: between Quad and King Excuse me from Marria to medicine.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Where these two in this most recent episode of the
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: show that heir last night are not on the same page.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Claudia and Blue would love to get your thoughts on
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: in Me and Dustin recaps on Patreon.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: We'll still get his, but I'll start with you. Claudia.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: What happened in the episode last night was Quad revealed
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: that King wanted to marry her, but the way he
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: asked her was they were in the car together and
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: there's a courthouse that's around the corner, and as they're driving,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: he randomly says, you wanna go to the courthouse and
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: now we'll do it, And she said she thought he
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: was joking, and she later learned that he was serious
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and that ever since she declined the offer.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: He wasn't the same. He didn't treat her the same.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Do you think that's a proposal and would you have
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: done the same thing?
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Well, you're talking to someone who got married at the
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Little White Wedding Chapel in Vegas and jeans on a
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: whim with no witnesses. That we were just hanging out
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: and he said you want to get yeah, yeah, when
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: right now? Okay, get it? And then it was used
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: against me later on. So I think they both have points.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I think they both have a valid point. He's probably like, well,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I asked you and then, but he knows that she
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: wanted it the real way, And she's like, yeah, but listen,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: when women, since we're little girls, women, little girls are conditioned,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: we are I feel like La Shia Band Cinderella. They
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: give us these unrealistic expectations that were supposed to have
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: a humongous gesture for our proposal, and anything less than
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: that is not thoughtful. Yeah, that was a little bit
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: casual to do that. That was not a little but
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: that was very casual. And he knows damn well that
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: she wanted better than that. I can see why his
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: feelings be hurt, but he should also be able to
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: understand why she would be hurt by feeling a lack
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: of some kind of effort, like, come on, you know
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: this woman is fabulous. Y'all are on y'all personalities now
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: and on television, and when it goes left, it has
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: that should be thrown back in your face. You know, Well,
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: if I was really serious about it, I would have
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: gave you a real big proposal. I've heard that before.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: If I really meant it like I you know, and
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: throw it back in your face. So you're kind of
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: damned if you do. Damn if you don't one high
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: one side, you could be like, oh it's beautiful. We didn't.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: We just couldn't wait. It was it was about the intent,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: not about the the the the gesture. I think they
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: both have valid points to feel away. But he should
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: be a little bit understanding why that would not feel
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: like that would kind of feel like a throwaway and
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: not like a real like he thought it out. We
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: want we want the thoughtfulness. And he should know her
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: better than that. He should know his woman better than that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: He doesn't know her better. That's why he did like that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: That was a setup. That was a setup. I don't
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: think his the valeries and to be anger, I don't think.
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: His feelings are her. I think his ego is bruised. Further,
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: I think his ego was already bruised, and that he
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: was trying to do this thing that.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Men who are small.
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: So if you're not a small man, and whatever says
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: you take that is not about you, okay.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: If that means five eight under no.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I don't mind sure kings my daddy was only five
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: five child.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: I don't know how I'm five nine. Men who are
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: small in the places it matters right, small men will
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: always seek.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: To Carlos Carlos got stuck.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: Small Men will always seek for a way to diminish
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: women with big energy. And watching that episode made me
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: realize the bigness of her that turned him on, turned
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: him off when he saw his reflection in comparison to hers,
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: when he realized that he wanted to diminish her. This
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: is what happened with They neg you. They offer you
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: scraps and see if you'll take, and if you don't,
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: their ego gets bruised.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Right, But the whole time she's talking, you can see
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: that she's already.
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: Been taught how to be emotionally intelligent to the point
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: of coddling. When he says, I don't like you shot
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: me out all the time, but I don't like how
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: you show.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: It, she didn't get the defenses. She said, how would
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: you like me to show it? Then zero defensiveness. Right,
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: When a woman who is that big and that.
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: Powerful and that talented and that famous can be demure
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: around you and you're not man enough to step up
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: to that that tells me that you are a man
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: who doesn't think he deserves it, and you will always
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: find a way to sabotage it. I think the proposal
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: air quotes ten times was a sabotage, attempt, subconscious sabotage,
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: because now I'm going to force her to reject me
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: so I have a place to house these feelings that
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: were already pre existing. He set that lady up and
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: then made her feel bad about not falling for the bait.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: And then you get hit it with well, I asked
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: you to marry me, you said no, you're the one
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: that turned me down.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Nasty work you. I know what you are king.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I wasn't as big as your last proposal,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: and I can't measure up to what you expect from me.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to do my best.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: Cloudily we bopping engaged a couple of times. We know
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: what happens when they're doing the okie dog.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I remember, I remember getting a big old ring and
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I remember getting nothing. Peanut colas.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: She dodged a bullet.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: I'm happy her spirit guides her instincts of the spirit
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: of her grandmother, whatever was behind her ancestors.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: But like girl we're not doing that.
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: It doesn't because has she been the kind of girl
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: who's like, Oh, let me just do it to make
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: my man happy.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: We can have a big thing later. She would be
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: the whole other world of mess. Also to.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: The scene that I saw of them talking about the IVF.
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: Look about the clip of the way you guys held.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Space for me and Claudia talking about our fertility journeys.
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: Right, the fact that our male call hosts are friends
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: had more compassion for us than her actual partner who
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: she's trying.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: To have a baby with.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was whack with that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: It's all nasty, And it's how men who are covertly
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: abusive act. They don't abuse you by being ugly with
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: you verbally or beating you up. They try to diminish
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: and diminish and diminish until you forget who you are.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I wish men that feel a way about their big women,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: and I don't mean physical size, but their big in spirit,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: big impersonality and ye energy will just leave us the
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: fuck alone. Don't like you know you're not gonna like
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: it in six months. You know you like it in
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: the beginning. You know that's an initial traction. But you
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: already know from people you dated before me that you
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: don't really like it. So go get with one more demure,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: more quiet, where you could be the star. You can
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: feel like the big dog. Leave us alone because.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: They want to break us, Claudia. The whole thing is
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: can I break her?
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Yes, it is to get broken. Don't get get us,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: to humble us and then blame us and say that
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: you were too much. You knew I was teamed too
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: much when you first got with me, yep, and you
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: probably said it to your friends. And you want your ego.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: You want to break, break, break a siste down, Clauda.
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: Do you see the comment somebody said, at least she
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: didn't get a picture frame.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: So Dustin, before I get your thought, I do want.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: To ask the girls this first.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I know for a fact that unfortunately, when it comes
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: to female reality stars, it's hard to date and bring
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the guy on the show because once you do, they
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: get the taste of fame.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, and that's a very listen.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Jay Z said once he said the most addictive drug
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: in the world is fame.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: That when somebody gets.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: It, for for some not all, but for some people
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: it's like they think for it it's an addiction.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: They just need it and they'll do everything for it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Why is it hard for the girls of reality TV
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: who are big, big personality, big careers. They're that girl
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: when it comes to meeting a guy. It sounds good beginning,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: but in the end, what we have seen time and
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: time and time again is that they show behavior of
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: trying to humble a woman, but they also like the
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: fame that they now haven't cure.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Is it because they are using these women as a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: stepping stone for the fame, and they want to show
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: other women that they really do want what a boss
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: they are in the way they talked about.
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: No, I actually think it's not as intentional. I think
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: this is where it's tricky. I actually think the Reality
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: Girls and what they go through is a really accurate
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: display of what's happening with high powered women in the dating.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Pool in general. Okay, even without the fame.
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: The fame is very important, but what famous to reality television,
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: rent and utilities is to the every day, everyday man
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: who's trying to get him a big money girl.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: As somebody who's been called big money more times and
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: I would like to count they're like, oh, what you mean.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: A black as if you're speaking you up? Oh we
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: ain't got a drive? Who's weed? Why are you speaking French?
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: There are certain men in this world who feel disempowered.
• 48:56
  Speaker 8: We talked about the male loneliness epidemic. So you have
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: to think about it. While women are rising systemically and
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: making all this money and going to college and doing
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: reality TV because of systemic oppression, men who are not
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: equipped are having the male loneness epidemic. They're not being taught.
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: Let me take it back, sis heat men. This is
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: very specifically straight men. It's been studied they're not being
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: equipped with the emotional intelligence to deal with the shifting
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: that's happening in the dating pool.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: They were taught by their fathers. We talked about this.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: Your value is in provision. So if she can provide
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: better than me, I have no backup. Nobody taught me
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: how to tap into my emotions. Right, And if she
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: wants to talk to a sensible man, she has homeboys,
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: She has married homeboys that are already grandfather then or
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: is gay men who have more emotional intelligence because have
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: been fostered than them better?
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: So what does she need? Mean for every clip that
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: we've talked about Huntsville. Even it's a man who feels.
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: Small, who doesn't have the language and is lashing out
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: the woman who loves him, who's trying to diminish for him.
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: And so I think this is not just a fame thing.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: I think there's a gender disparity being happening before our
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: eyes because.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Of a lack of mental health awareness. The man is depressed.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: They've even said this. Many men when they're depressed, they
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: think they're horny. They don't even know that they want
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: to hug. They think they want some sexual validation and attention, right.
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: And so I think as long as we have a
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: world full of girls who are all about therapy and
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: getting their bag and straight men who are being taught
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: to like get angry and be in cells and not
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: go see the lady and get therapy for themselves, it's
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: going to keep on growing. And fame is like seasoning
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: salt that ads fired to something that was already kind.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: Of in flames to begin with. So it's bad already.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: I think they're an exaggerated version of what's happening in
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: the dating pool. Actually, my heart went out to QUAD
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: because I know girls with no fame and big direct
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: deposits who are going through the same thing.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Blue Girl. I do. I feel
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: like it's the same. It's yeah, girls on reality TV,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: it's just in front of people. But talk to business women,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: business owners, women that have like have it going on.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: It's the same exact thing. It's just without yes CEOs.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: It's the same exact thing. And that's why a lot
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: of women are opting out of relationships all together. I
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: think when women surpassed equality insteaded actually doing better than
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: some of the straight men that they're dating, it exposed
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: something about men that outside of provision of money, when
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: they don't have that to wave to dangle over your head,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of them don't have They're not developed emotionally,
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: they don't have a personality. They can't sit in silence,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: They're awkward in silence. They're not confident. And a lot
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: of men's worth and value came from money and what
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I got. I remember a guy hitting on me that had, oh,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: I can get your bends. At the time, I'm like,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: I got a bend struck, and he's like, well I
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: could do this. I said, I got all that, and
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: he goes, well, damn like he tried with the surface stuff. First.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: I said, no, you have to get me with your
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: personality and with your brain. And when I said that,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: it freaked him out and it felt like a little
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: boy was in front of me and he had nothing
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: to say. And I think these men on reality TV
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: similar to the men and the dating out in the wild.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: A powerful woman, a woman on TV, a woman with
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: the light around her. Once they don't have that financial
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: control of you, they can't financially abuse you and make
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: you stay with them and blackmail you and stop, you know,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: dangle food and sustenance off your head. And then when
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: it's one on one, it's just me and you and
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: you got to talk to me a lot of times
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: they got nothing to say. And I don't know what
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: that falls on. Bad parenting growing up, not letting men
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: express themselves as little boys and shutting them down when
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: they try to cry, or whatever it is. I don't
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: know what it is. I won't pretend to be an
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: expert on that, but it is bad. And almost every
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: powerful woman I have, i'm friends with that successful is single.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: And they say the men don't even bother approaching them anymore.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: And they say the big money thing or you got it?
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Or one time a guy said, well, you can pour
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: into me, but I feel like I can't pour anything
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: into you, and I thought it was so sad. I'm like,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: but I actually like you. I like, yeah, like your
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: presence is enough. And they don't think. They don't believe
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: us when we say they never tell them that it is.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: It's like, honestly, we work hard so we don't have
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: to need you for these things, and we think that
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: makes us attracted, but it actually makes us less attractive
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: to these men, and then they leave your ass and
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: go with the girl that needs them for sustenance. Yeah,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: fellas that are watching the show right now, Blue and I.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Guy who watches Month in My Life, what's up.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: The show?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Because their girlfriends made them. We are broke, Blue and Eye,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: I have lost all of our money. We have mel Madona.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: We're poor, so don't be intimidated.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: We're good.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: We need to please sir. Can I have a piece
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: of Beme?
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: I'm starving?
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: You meet me?
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Can I have get my hair done?
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: They he knew what the fuck he was doing, and
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: he did that ship in that car, and he knew
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: Choir wasn't having that he knew exactly what he was doing,
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: and that's the beginning and end of it. We talked
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: about it in depth over on our Mary to Medicine
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: on Patreon and gonna check that out. But King knew
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: exactly what he was doing by he said that was
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: a setup for an exit. That's what that was.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: So he was talking to her kind of harsh when
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: they would if I was like, I'm like, wait, even
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: dust and girls and talk to us like what the hell? Yeah? Right.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: The thing the thing with King is this.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, and I don't have a bone
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: in the fight dog and Sipe called child.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Not a bone I have all.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: The thing with King King is just one of my friends.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: She's a woman and she's born and raised in Jamaica,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: like born and raised there, and she watches Married to
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Medicine and she'll text me about her thoughts on the
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: showves whatever.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: And she had this thing about King.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: She was like, there's something about King, and I'm like,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: tell your girl Quads to stay away from him.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, I'm not gonna do that, right, but
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: like whatever.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: So long story short, the Jamaica trip, she found out
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: he's from Jamaica. So Maja, she's Jamaican. She said, that's
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: why I was triggered. He reminds me of everybody in
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: my life who is from Jamaica, including my dad. And
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: she said, Carlos, I can tell you Jamaican men they
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: have this ego where they really do think you should
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: washle the ground they walk on and they talk to
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: you crazy.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: And granted I don't think she was well, she was
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: a child. I'm not saying this is all Jamaican men.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: It's Caribbean men. Caribbean.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say.
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: She was telling me about a lot of my friends
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: who are West ending Caribbean. They were saying that that's
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: just the culture of those men. And I think the
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: thing with King King treated Quad like he.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: King treated Quad as if she should be happy that
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: he chose her.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: It was sort of like, you should be happy that
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I'm even spending money to do this. And the one
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: thing that he said and the one on one seen,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: was when he was talking about how she talks to him.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: He said, you know, when you were going through this process,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: and it was sort of like, but y'all are doing
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: this together, and I feel like unfortunately King was never
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: invested in having a child with Quad. That's my thoughts
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: on it. He talks to her crazy. To me, I
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: don't like how he speaks to her, and every time
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: he says you you you, and you're your your, he never.
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: Talks about us, And I thought that was the red flag.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: And like Dustin said on Patreon, seeing them not together anymore,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's best for her to be single.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: So do you think think King wanted his batty chain? Yeah?
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I do, I do.
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: I was turned up by the whole thing about him
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: wanting a masculine son like that for me all because
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: it really spoke about like, okay, please tell me you're
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: not one of those men.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Who are homophobic, right, Yeah, I don't know if he is.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: But what you trying to say?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and for me kind of prettymature.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Want to say that when you haven't even conceived.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, because he has a daughter, Yes he has he
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: has a daughter. So to to have.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: This desire in twenty twenty six to have a masculine son,
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: to me, it's stupid because masculinity isn't a personality, it's
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: not a matterism. It's what you ladies are saying that,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: y'all want from men nowadays. Can you be emotionally available,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Can you make me feel safe?
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Can you pour into me?
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: That's masculinity where you're not afraid of doing these things
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: because you're afraid of being seen as a bitch. And
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: I think that's the problem with a lot of these men, unfortunately,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: who don't understand how today a woman of means and
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: that's the unfortunate part.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: Hope masculinity makes you say say, it's why.
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: When she said that, I was like, oh, he's gonna
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: be triggered, But she didn't lie to hyper masculinity is fragile,
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: like the hyper masculinity that Sis had men choose. It's fragile.
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: I always say, listen, this is not the views of
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: anybody else in this thing. So if you're mad, don't
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: be mad at them. It hurts my heart that being
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: around queer men who are comfortable with themselves and their
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: sexuality and their masculinity while also showing tenderness is the
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: kind of masculine safety that I thought would be getting
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: from straight men. And knowing it's possible and men in general,
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: is why I ache for it in straight man because
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: I know it exists, so I know I didn't make
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: it up because I'm seeing it with my homeboys. Why
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: can't y'all figure it out? And I'm like, oh, your
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: daddy didn't didn't raise you properly. And I'm being so sincere,
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: like they're cosplaying their fathers. But look at your father
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: and your mother's relationship. Your mama looks miserable. I don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: want to look like everything I've been through.
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, facts right, walk around looking like we on fences.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's worth the questions.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Jesus. I do think and listen, you know, I like
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: to be fair.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I do think we have to make our black boys
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: feel safe to show emotion, and that does start at home.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: And I think to mothers who are raising boys on
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: their own, you have to because again I'm not gonna
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: get into this because it's a celebrity sister who was
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: chastising her son because she and and.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you we have. It starts, and it starts at
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: the youth.
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: You can't you can't tell your son boys, don't cry.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: You can't tell your son suck it up.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: You can't tell your son those things because they are
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: going to grow up and and they're going to act
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: out in various ways. Where they end up in jail,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: or they end up being mormanizers, or they end up
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: having six baby mamas.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: So I do think.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: All of us mothers, dads, everybody, we have to start
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: raising our young especially the black boys. We have to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: start raising young black boys to give emotion. And that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: is not soft. You're not a punk, You're not a can.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I say it, You're not those things that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: are you know what I'm saying, Sassy, drop the A
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: and put the I.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: You're not those things.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: And I think what you said, Blue and Claudia is
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: so beautiful about me and dusted because I.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Don't give a shit.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: And I notice like growing up being told all of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: those things, right, I have to shake that shit off
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: from what I was told by my dad and how
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: my mother did her best to protect me against what
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: she felt was going to be the.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: World attacking me again is what we need. So it's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: a different time.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: So it starts at home and for the women who
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: are successful, like Michelle Obama said her mother raised her talk.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: While she coddled her brother. Yep, and we have to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: undo all of it.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: I have a cousin that was so mean to his son,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: and you know you're going to be a say the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: F word, and you know, I'm like, yo, chill, Like
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: why can't he express himself that he's artistic and creative
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: and emotional, Like, there's gotta be away straight fathers out
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: there with your sons to not shame your son to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: having emotion and to having feelings and think that's a
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: bad thing because then they grow up to be these
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: one dimensional woman beaters and resentful. He real equipped, Yeah,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: they can't have a conversation. Everything you anything you say
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: to them, and you want to have a conversation to them,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: it feels like you're an attack to them because they've
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: never learned how to be emotional. They never had to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: learn how to express themselves except.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Fighting g I.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Joe wrestling. They can have a emostly intelligent conversation and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: then we gotta deal with them. So please stop doing
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: that to your sons and making them feel away. If
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: they're gay, straight, who gives them be happy? They're healthy
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: and good people. I cannot say that. I was so mad.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I want of my family members for doing that to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: his son. And then they have no relationship now and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: he's like ostracized. He didn't really have a relationship with
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: his dad because his father like shamed him as a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: little kid. The kid was like a little boy. I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: was so mad about that. It's not cool.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: It's not yeah, So Ray go on our Patreon so
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: you can hear the rest of me and dusn't talk
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: about marathon medicine.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Listen, Claudia Blue and Dustin. I love the three of you.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Mischief please and next Monday.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: Sorry for the seat word, my bad.
• 1:02:56
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• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimetz, and a partnership.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.
• 1:03:07
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