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Michigan's Socialism Test · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: Hugh Hewett. Thank you for joining us today. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend. I know it's August and that some
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  Speaker 1: of you have left town and some of you have
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  Speaker 1: decided not to pay any attention to anything, But some
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  Speaker 1: of you have got to work. I know that, and
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  Speaker 1: so I'm here for you. I'm not going to leave
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  Speaker 1: you alone in August. No one will. I want to
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  Speaker 1: begin by playing for you. I'm going to focus a
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  Speaker 1: lot on Abdul Rahman lsayaid, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's L say ed or L said I say I'm both,
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  Speaker 1: because it's unclear to me whether or not one or
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  Speaker 1: the other is in fact the correct way to pronounce it.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to start by telling you the most
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  Speaker 1: important race in the United States in twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: is Mike Rogers versus Abdul Rahman Lsaed in Michigan. And
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  Speaker 1: what we've got to do is make sure that Mike
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  Speaker 1: Rogers is fully funded. And what that means is that
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  Speaker 1: you're ten dollars or one hundred dollars year. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's twenty eight hundred dollars now. Contribution can be made
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  Speaker 1: directly to Mike at Rogers for Senate dot Com, R O. G. E. R. S.
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  Speaker 1: Rogers for Senate dot Com. I want to begin by
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  Speaker 1: telling you that Mike Katie Pablick is an old friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine, old town Hall colleague. I've known Katie for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. She is now working with our friends
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  Speaker 1: over it in New Hiss Nation, and she's doing a
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  Speaker 1: great job ten o'clock Monday through Friday night. But Katie's
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  Speaker 1: a little less inhibited than I am. She's actually posted
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  Speaker 1: over on x what it is that hasan Piker has
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  Speaker 1: said what it is that he is quite proud to
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  Speaker 1: say again and again, things like America is nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: MAO was the greatest person to live in the twentieth century.
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  Speaker 1: Now killed one hundred million people. By the way, in
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  Speaker 1: case you didn't know that, In case you went to
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  Speaker 1: public school. He is anti black, he's anti woman, he's
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  Speaker 1: anti borders, he's anti police. And El Sayed is a
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  Speaker 1: SAN Piker, and a SAN piker is l Sayed. What
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  Speaker 1: I want you to understand is that the two of
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  Speaker 1: them campaigned together, as I've basically joined at the hit.
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  Speaker 1: They even had a pool party the night before the election.
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  Speaker 1: They were clicking their glasses because they had all these
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  Speaker 1: fake polls out there showing Laed beating Hailey Stevens by
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  Speaker 1: ten to fifteen points. A lot of people didn't even
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  Speaker 1: bother to show up and vote. He won by about
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  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand votes one percent of the vote, not ten,
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  Speaker 1: not fifteen percent. So I'm not really sure that tomorrow's
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  Speaker 1: election in Wisconsin is going to be the real deal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure that she's ahead by many points,
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  Speaker 1: as we've been told she's been. But let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the let's go to the tape. I'll say he made
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  Speaker 1: the rounds yesterday trying to normalize himself. He was on
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  Speaker 1: Kristen Welker Cut number eight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you faced scrutiny for campaigning with socialist streamer
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  Speaker 2: Hassan Piker, who has made a series of inflammatory comments
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  Speaker 2: as you well know, including saying America deserved nine to
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  Speaker 2: eleven describing Hamas as a lesser evil than Israel. Do
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  Speaker 2: you plan to continue to campaign with Hassan Piker in
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  Speaker 2: the general election campaign?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm less concerned now with who I'm campaigning with,
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  Speaker 3: a lot more concerned about who I'm campaigning to. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of work to do to continue to
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  Speaker 3: build the coalition that's going to be Mike Rogerson.
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  Speaker 2: Would you welcome him though on the campaign troop?
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm a lot more focused on who
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  Speaker 3: I'm campaigning to. So I think we have this notion
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  Speaker 3: sometimes on shows like this that we cannot or should
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  Speaker 3: not talk to certain groups of people. And I will
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  Speaker 3: tell you that the three million people who listen to
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  Speaker 3: Hassan are people I want to make sure understand that
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  Speaker 3: there's a pathway into our politics around getting money out
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  Speaker 3: of politics so we can keeput money back in pockets
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  Speaker 3: in past Medicare for all. And so I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: continue to have the conversations with those folks who we
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  Speaker 3: desperately need to reach out to, just like I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to continue to have conversations with seniors and senior homes
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  Speaker 3: folks up North, folks in Detroit, forks and Grand Rapids.
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  Speaker 3: So again, I'm a lot more focused on who I'm
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  Speaker 3: campaigning to rather than who I might campaign with.
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  Speaker 1: That's not an answer, because a son Piker is a
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  Speaker 1: malignancy in the country. He's an evil guy. He's deeply
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  Speaker 1: vile if you know anything about it. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: expect most of the people listening to me right now
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  Speaker 1: to have any idea who the son Piker is. But
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  Speaker 1: Twitch is a service that you can basically put yourself
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  Speaker 1: online twenty four to seven and you might draw a
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  Speaker 1: crowd of seventy five to one hundred thousand people at
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  Speaker 1: any given time. I'm talking to millions of people right now.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been doing this for thirty years, and my
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  Speaker 1: millions of people are normal people. Hassan Piker attracts both
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  Speaker 1: hate watchers and people who are nuts. Listen again to
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  Speaker 1: this answer, cut number eight.
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  Speaker 2: You know you faced scrutiny for campaigning with socialist streamer
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  Speaker 2: Hassan Piker, who has made a series of inflammatory comments,
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  Speaker 2: as you well know, including saying America deserved nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 2: describing Hamas as a lesser evil than Israel.
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  Speaker 4: Do you plan to.
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  Speaker 2: Continue to campaign with Hassan Piker in the general election campaign.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm less concerned now with who I'm campaigning with,
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  Speaker 3: a lot more concerned about who I'm campaigning to. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of work to do to continue to
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  Speaker 3: build the coalition that's going to be Mike Rogers.
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  Speaker 2: Would you welcome him though on the campaign trip?
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm a lot more focused on who
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  Speaker 3: I'm campaigning to so present.
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  Speaker 1: What Kristan ought to have done has said, pardon my language,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to use eth insta of the F word,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to quote a son Piker, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to know if you agree with this quote quote
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  Speaker 1: number one, quote number two, quote number three, quote number four.
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  Speaker 1: I would methodically go through everything this sociopath has said repeatedly,
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  Speaker 1: we want to open the borders so people from the
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  Speaker 1: South can come and rape your sisters and your brides
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  Speaker 1: and your daughters. That's a san Piker. He's crazy. He's
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  Speaker 1: an absolute malignant force and a narcissist. And he's got
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  Speaker 1: seventy five one hundred thousand people who are entertained by malignancy,
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  Speaker 1: like people who like to watch torture videos of cats
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  Speaker 1: being crushed. There's an actual Supreme Court case on that
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  Speaker 1: whether or not it's constitutionally protected to have crush videos.
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  Speaker 1: So asan piker is a walking, talking crush video, there's
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  Speaker 1: got constitutional protection. He's allowed to do whatever he wants
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  Speaker 1: to do and say whatever he wants to say. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're asked on meet the press, do you disavow
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  Speaker 1: this guy? He will not answer the question. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: he said it again. Cut number ten yesterday to Christian Walker.
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  Speaker 3: You know, to sit here and play gotcha politics with
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  Speaker 3: a dumb thing. Somebody said out of context that they
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  Speaker 3: just allowed themselves to say, Oh, well, what does that
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  Speaker 3: mean about what you think? I want to be held
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  Speaker 3: accountable for what I say and what I do, rather
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  Speaker 3: than this idea that we've were so stuck in cancel
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  Speaker 3: culture that all of us agreed was a bad idea
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  Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty, but we seem to want to
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  Speaker 3: bring back.
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  Speaker 1: That is not at all what's being asked. He's being
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  Speaker 1: asked specifically about an individual with whom he traffics on
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  Speaker 1: a daily basis, who he closed his campaign with for
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  Speaker 1: many days, who was at his victory party live streaming
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  Speaker 1: in a profane and vulgar way, saying the same sort
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  Speaker 1: of things that Hasan Piker always says. In fact, today,
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  Speaker 1: Hassan Piker asked to comment on Cea Weaver, who is
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  Speaker 1: director of New York City Mayor Zoron Mamdani's Office to
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  Speaker 1: Protect Tenants and has been since January one, twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: She endorsed government seizure of private property, and she endorsed
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  Speaker 1: listeners impoverishing the white middle class. Hassan Piker responded by saying,
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  Speaker 1: beast mode, I love her. Critics highlighted Piker's own two
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  Speaker 1: point seven to four million dollar West Hollywood home, his
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  Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars Porsche, and whether or not he
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  Speaker 1: ought to be applauding people who want to impoverish the
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  Speaker 1: white middle class. That's not something that's out of context.
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  Speaker 1: That's today, that's after yesterday's Meet the Press comment. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: he did get asked to a couple of softballs by
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  Speaker 1: Kristen Welker cut number nine.
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  Speaker 2: Just to be very clear, you're describing this tradeoff, you
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  Speaker 2: are effectively acknowledging that people making less than a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars could see their taxes go up. I just wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be very clear.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a yes, I'm saying that we'd be paying
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  Speaker 3: for healthcare in a different way instead of paying a
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  Speaker 3: health insurance company who ceo makes twenty million dollars. I
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  Speaker 3: would much rather pay for durable health care into a government, which,
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  Speaker 3: of course we all know provides healthcare for seniors who
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  Speaker 3: need health care the most. So if I'm trading paying
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  Speaker 3: a CEO to make more money or paying a government
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  Speaker 3: to guarantee me health care, I'm picking the latter.
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  Speaker 5: Every time.
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  Speaker 1: He's stupid. That's just a stupid thing to say. That's
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  Speaker 1: that is just a stupid thing to say. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even single payer. It's not Medicare for all. It's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not responsive. But then he said this
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  Speaker 1: cut number eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Some Americans worry, though, you can only make Medicare free
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  Speaker 2: and universal if you increase taxes. So if you are
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  Speaker 2: elected and make this push, would you need to increase taxes?
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  Speaker 3: As I've said across this campaign, I am for taxing
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  Speaker 3: billionaires their wealth.
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  Speaker 2: What about people who make less for less than a
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  Speaker 2: million dollars though, doctor elsayd what about people making less
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  Speaker 2: than a million dollars?
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  Speaker 3: So for the average person, and you look at your
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  Speaker 3: W two. If you're an employee, he gets paid every
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  Speaker 3: two weeks or four weeks.
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  Speaker 5: After you pay your taxes.
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  Speaker 3: The next biggest check that comes off the top of
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  Speaker 3: your pay stub is to your health insurance company. So
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  Speaker 3: you imagine instead of paying that to your health insurance company,
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  Speaker 3: who CEO makes twenty million dollars a year. Instead you
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  Speaker 3: paid a little bit more in taxes for healthcare that
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  Speaker 3: you wouldn't lose if you lost your job or turn
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  Speaker 3: twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: So, yes, your taxes are going to go up a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. It's not thought through. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have a plan, he doesn't have a platform. He's
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  Speaker 1: a complete imbecile, and he's around a radical Hassan biker
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  Speaker 1: that it makes him himself a radical. Go to rogersfirsenate
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  Speaker 1: dot com and contribute to Mike Rodgers the most important
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  Speaker 1: race in the United States in twenty twenty six. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be right back on the U Zealer check America. Senator
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  Speaker 1: Tom Cotton is from the Great State of Arkansas, the
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  Speaker 1: chair of the Republican Conference, making the third ranking Republican
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  Speaker 1: in the United States Senate. He is also the chair
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  Speaker 1: of the Senate Intelligence Committee, a member of the Armed
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  Speaker 1: Services Committee, Senator Cotton, I want to get to Iran,
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  Speaker 1: but can I first get your comments on the nomination
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  Speaker 1: by the Democrats of Abdul Rahman l Said to be
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  Speaker 1: a United States Senator. I just can't see it happening, heugh.
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  Speaker 6: It's just the latest example and evidence that socialists are
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  Speaker 6: the driving intellectual force and the political muscle and the
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  Speaker 6: Democratic Party. They're nominating these radicals not just in New
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  Speaker 6: York City but now in one of the key swing
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  Speaker 6: states in the Midwest. And abdulah say Ed is truly
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  Speaker 6: radical compared to most normal michigan ors, or our candons,
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  Speaker 6: or Americans, if you look at his deep hostility and
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  Speaker 6: tipathy towards Israel and Jews, if you consider his support
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  Speaker 6: for abolishing ice, opening the borders, go.
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  Speaker 1: On and on.
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  Speaker 6: But the thing is, that's not really that kind of
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  Speaker 6: the mainstream the Democratic Party anymore. That's kind of what
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  Speaker 6: most Democrats these days, I think, and certainly the way
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  Speaker 6: they vote in part because they're scared of the socialists
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  Speaker 6: who are running against them in primaries, are voting in
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  Speaker 6: these primaries. I suspect you're going to see it again tomorrow,
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  Speaker 6: Hugh in Wisconsin and in Minnesota in jubernatorial and in
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  Speaker 6: Senate primaries there, and it's a reminder of the stakes
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  Speaker 6: of this election. We cannot let these radical socialists take power,
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  Speaker 6: not just in some city that's far away that you
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  Speaker 6: may never want to travel to, but in our Congress
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  Speaker 6: to make laws that we all live under.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I've been trying to argue to the audience that
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  Speaker 1: Chevalier Valdez, Hamawi, Caros, they will be a problem for
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  Speaker 1: their districts, but they can't screw up the House completely
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  Speaker 1: without the complexity of their party. One senator can do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of damage, can't they.
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  Speaker 6: Well, there's no question that any one senator has a
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  Speaker 6: lot more influence than any one representative. And it's not
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  Speaker 6: just a function Hue, as you suggest, of being one
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  Speaker 6: of one hundred verses one and four and thirty five.
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  Speaker 6: The Senate is a deliberate institution in which each Senator
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  Speaker 6: has a lot more power from a structural standpoint than
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  Speaker 6: each individual representative because the House is a much more
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  Speaker 6: majoritarian institute. So there's there's no question that if l
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  Speaker 6: si Ed were to win, which I do not for
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  Speaker 6: a minute believe he will, that he would be a
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  Speaker 6: massive head a not just for Chuck Schumer and Senate
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  Speaker 6: Democrats before the Senate is an institution for this country.
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  Speaker 6: And unfortunately, he'd probably have a lot of allies as well.
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  Speaker 1: The good news is Mike Rodgers is the nominee. Mike Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you campaigned for him two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you would against Elizie Slotkin, but she's kind
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  Speaker 1: of an army Democratic came down to less than one percent,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that Michigan reconsidered. He's an army guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's an FBI guy. Fourteen years in the House, he
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  Speaker 1: was chair of the House Intel Committee. He's like abundantly
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  Speaker 1: qualified to join the Senate. Don't you think.
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  Speaker 6: No question to you that Mike Rodgers is assault of
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  Speaker 6: the earth guy. I campaigned with him a lot two
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  Speaker 6: years ago. I served with him the House of Representatives.
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  Speaker 6: As you say, he's a patriot who served our country
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  Speaker 6: in uniform, who served in the FBI, who led the
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  Speaker 6: House Intelligence Committee. He understands where, he understands what it
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  Speaker 6: takes to keep the country safe. He knows what it
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  Speaker 6: takes to get the economy moving, to help prices stabilize
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  Speaker 6: to help improve the quality of life for michigan urs
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  Speaker 6: and keep them safe as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right, no, sa if I can switch over to
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  Speaker 1: Iran with you. Many of our listeners, many of our
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  Speaker 1: viewers today don't really have a good idea of what's
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  Speaker 1: going on there. I think it's just the blockade and
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  Speaker 1: strangulation strategy. But I don't know how do you view it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Hugh? At this stage, we haven't had a major
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  Speaker 6: exchange of fire now and I think nine or ten
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  Speaker 6: days the President said last week that there may be
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  Speaker 6: a deal underway. I frankly think there's never going to
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  Speaker 6: be a deal with these revolutionary fanatics. I wish we
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  Speaker 6: had simply finished the job back in early April, whether
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  Speaker 6: before starting this on again, off again series of cease fires.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's too late to finish the job.
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  Speaker 6: We need to destroy the remnants of their military, especially
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  Speaker 6: their military assets that are near the straight Up for
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  Speaker 6: Moves that can continue to threaten shipping through the Straight.
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  Speaker 5: Up for moves.
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  Speaker 6: If we did that, we'd be able to get more
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  Speaker 6: tankers out every single day. That would help get the
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  Speaker 6: price of gas and diesel under control for our cans
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  Speaker 6: ins and all Americans. It would also prevent Ron from
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  Speaker 6: using that point of leverage in the future, and then
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  Speaker 6: in the meantime, we can keep the blockade in place.
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  Speaker 6: Does hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage to
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  Speaker 6: Iran every single day. We have left their military and shambles.
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  Speaker 6: We have destroyed their nuclear program. So I think it's
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  Speaker 6: better that we try to finish the job sooner rather
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  Speaker 6: than later. That's been my consistent view now for four months.
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  Speaker 6: And furthermore, we should acknowledage that revolutionary genetics are never
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  Speaker 6: going to make the kind of deal that we could accept.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're on the campaign trail, you're up for election
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  Speaker 1: this year. What do our Kansas say to you about
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  Speaker 1: the war? Because you get a lot of different points
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  Speaker 1: of view wherever you are in the country. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted prosecuted to a successful conclusion, which means capitulation by
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  Speaker 1: the regime to the reality that they can't terrorize their neighbors.
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  Speaker 1: But what do our Kansons tell you on the trail?
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  Speaker 6: Hughes something very similar. I remember when the war first started,
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  Speaker 6: talking to a farmer who acknowledged that he was already
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  Speaker 6: paying a little bit more for diesel and a little
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  Speaker 6: bit more for gas, but also said, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 6: about your age, Senator. Orn's been terrorizing America for forty
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  Speaker 6: seven years, and it's fine time that we finally ended
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  Speaker 6: this threat once and for all. But I understand that
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  Speaker 6: the people who are paying a little bit more for
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  Speaker 6: gas or for diesel wish we had actually eliminated the
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  Speaker 6: threat entirely in March and in April as opposed to
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  Speaker 6: go into this series of positive That's why I think
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  Speaker 6: again the best course of action is to finish the
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  Speaker 6: job militarily, especially the threat that are on poses to
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  Speaker 6: the Strait, and then keep the embargo in place. That'll
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  Speaker 6: keep the price of gas and diesel and other products
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  Speaker 6: lower than there are right now. It'll also keep the
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  Speaker 6: vice on a run.
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  Speaker 1: Now, crude oil today is up to eighty two dollars
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  Speaker 1: and change up about five percent, which usually portends something's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. But at the same time, every day
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  Speaker 1: and every week we talk the UAE, Saudi Arabia, the
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  Speaker 1: Gulf State, they're building pipelines, they're providing different means of
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  Speaker 1: getting oil to market. Is the straight declining of depreciating
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  Speaker 1: asset for the revolutionary regime as it stands, even if
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  Speaker 1: we don't do anything except the blockade.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's probably the case. You that's a medium
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: term solution, not a near term solution. The near term
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: solution is to finish the job and to prevent or
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: On from continuing a threat in the Strait. That's what's
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: going to get prices down for our cantons right now
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: in the next few months. The near term solution, say,
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: over the course of the president's final two and a
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: half years in office, as you suggest, to build a
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: new pipeline infrastructure that may basically makes the story to
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: removes immateial for global oil supply. That'll keep prices down
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: in the medium to long term. I've talked to Arab
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: leaders whose countries would be building and hosting these pipelines.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: I talked to leaders of the oil industry who say
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: the same things. These are not engineering challenges. They're frankly
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: not even that expensive on the scale of what oil
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: major major companies and Arab countries have to budget. You're
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: talking about very minor expenses and expenses because they don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: face the same kind of ridiculous obstacles and red tape
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: to permitting for infrastructure that we have in America that
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: could probably be brought online within again a couple of years.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: That's the way to diminish to runs leverage in the
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: medium to long term. In the short term, it's to
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: finish the job against them militarily.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, Center Tom Cotton. Always good to talk to you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Back to the campaign trail for you, and thank you
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: for spending some time with me on this Monday. Don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: go anywhere in commons. I'm joined by kind of a Midwesterner,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Selena Zito calms to America. I know Pennsylvania is not
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: really the Midwest, Selena, President Trump's famous favorite journalist, Selena, Uh,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you know the Midwest pretty well for a Pennsylvania who
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: comes over to our side of the line once in
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a while. What do you make of l Sied in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Michigan and hung in Wisconsin. How do they fit in
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the Midwestern matrix, of which you are somewhat aware they
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: do not?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: But I think is really interesting is if you remember
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: in my book Butler, I laid out that what Democrats
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: have been missing is that white working class and Hispanic
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: working class and black working class all vote the same,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: and they don't vote far left. So what we saw
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: in that in this midterm contest, in the Democratic primary,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: he did not win those voters. And it's very talent
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: because going into a general, those Democrat working class voters
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: are going to do one or two things. They're either
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: going to sit on their hands and stay home, or
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: they're going to vote Republican.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So let's follow up on that. And Butler, you talked
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: about the rally would have a lot of African Americans come,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, have all sorts of races come.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: And when we look at the cross stabs in Detroit,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: El Saya did not do what Democrats typically do in
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the inner suburbs or the inner wards of Detroit, blacks
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: don't like him.
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: Why is that, Oh, well, because you know, I think
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: a lot of times people don't understand that black voters,
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: in particular black working class voters are much more.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Conservative than college educated blacks that live in places like
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: New York or DC. It's very very different. Their experience
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: are very different, and they're much more conservative, much more
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: pro life, don't want government in their lives, and they
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: don't want an overreaching government, right, which is what you
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: have with socialism and communism, right, you do those freedoms
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: that they work so hard to achieve from the Civil
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: War all the way up to the Civil Rights Act
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: are then stripped away under socialism and communism.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So what do you make of Francesca hang Is on
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the ball tomorrow in Wisconsin not liking Thanksgiving? How's that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: going to fly with the folks in your area of Pittsburgh.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not gonna fly. And it doesn't matter how
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: many times she walks it back or pretend she didn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: say it. It's out there. She said it, and as
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: a matter of convenience, she's now saying, well, that's not
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: actually what I really meant. You know, the voters are
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: not stupid, but the assumption is that they are. You know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the challenge for Democrats right now are primaries because the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: furthest left shows up.
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: Look.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I have been reporting this in Pittsburgh since twenty seventeen,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: when Mick Pappas first won as a Democratic Socialist of
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: America member for magistrate, followed quickly by Summerlee winning a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: state repsy. And it's been happening in Pittsburgh now for
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: almost a decade. They've been very very strategic in how
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: when they won run and where they run and they
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: were very patient as well to pick off moderate Democrats
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: in an election cycle, in a primary where far left
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: tend to show up more than your average moderate Democrat.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So, Selena, until this week, have you ever heard of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a San Piker? Have you followed the rise of this
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: very vile person?
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Now I tend to avoid people.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But now what do you think that
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: can El Sayed shed him? I think they're joined at
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the hip. They were at a pool party the night
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: before the election. They campaigned together for the last week.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Piker live stream the election night party. There's the video
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: of people are watching on the Salem news channel. Can
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: El sai ed hide him? Now?
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: No, he can't.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: This is the Internet age. You can't hide from anything
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: that you did. It's not like when we were in
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: high school and you would write something like Kilroy was
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: here in the bathroom wall, right like those days are
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: nobody knew who wrote it. Those days are gone. It's
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: out there and you can you can't walk away from
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: it now.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Last thing I would ask is, I don't know that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you've covered Arab Americans, very diverse community of Arab Americans.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: For example, the last United States Senator to serbu as
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: an American Arab American to my knowledge, was from Michigan,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and he was a Lebanese Arab American Spence Abrams. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: think that the Arab American community is being type cast
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: as radical and it's not.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: What do you think, well, I mean we also know
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: an Arab American who was the governor of Indiana and
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: the president of Purdue Andy Yinzer.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Mitch Daniels. Right, Yes, I didn't know Mitch Daniels was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Arab American.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was part of Yeah, absolutely, and and so
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: you know, and and just like any other ethnic group,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: it's a very diverse group of people, and and so
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't see it as a whole as
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: a radical group. I you know, there's there's there's differences obviously,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: but you know, I just don't see it as as
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: you can put it in one mold.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for a column forthcoming on that on how
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the DSA is all the fault of Pittsburgh since it
• 25:04
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back America. Kyrgyzstan. You don't hear about Kyrgyzstan much,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: but it is August and it is important. So I've
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: asked Philip Balboni to join me and talk about Kyrgyzstan.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Philip is the founder and the editor in chief of
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Globalposts GlobalPost dot com. It is free, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for all you high school students out there, teachers, homeschoolers.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: We'll get back to that In the end, Philip, I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: got this big, long article from you this morning on Kyrgyzstan,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and I had to go to my globe and we
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: got a map at Kyrgyzstan, which I think Harley can
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: put up for our audience so they can understand it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: What drew your attention to Kyrgyzstan. And that's the map
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: from the Global Post, by the way, which has great
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: maps every single day.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: You good to see you as always. So your viewers
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: are looking at Central Asia. And so Central Asia is
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: a really fascinating place that most Americans know little or
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: nothing about. So it stretches from China in the in
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: the east on the right side of this map all
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: the way over to the Cascian seeing from Russia down
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: to Iran and the Middle East and South Asia. So
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: what we're focusing on today in Global Posts is Kyrgyzstan,
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: but really it's all of Central Asia, these five countries.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: And so this area is where the historic trade routes
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: were from China to Europe, you know, in you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: millennia ago and famous as the Silk Road, and these
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: trade routes are still important here we are in the
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: twenty first century, and so you know, the story is
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: really about the rise of China and to some degree
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: the decline of Russia in this area. So these five states,
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: including Kyrguistan, were part of the old Soviet Union, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: when the USSR as we used to call it, broke
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: up in nineteen ninety, all of these states became independent republics.
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: But Russia continued to be, of course, very important. But
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: with China's rise as a global economic and military power,
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: they have pushed deeply into Central Asia. So in Kyrguistan,
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: they're creating large centers for the transshipment of goods and trade,
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: and the people of Kyrgyzstan and other parts of Central
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: Asia as well are starting to resist this and to resent,
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: you know, the Chinese incursion.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Let me say, for the benefit of the audio audience,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: fill the stands as they are colloquial called. There are
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: five of them. There's Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and there's Bekistan.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And they're usually just called the Stans because most Americans,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: just like me, don't know their geography very well unless
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: we put that map up. I had no idea, by
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the way, until I looked at that map, how much
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: bigger Kazakhstan is than the other five. But the one
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that's buttoned up against China, there's some Kazakhstan, but it's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Kyrghyzstan is their first step in that Silk Road twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six.
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  Speaker 8: Correct, exactly exactly, And it's a good call on Kazakhstan. You,
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: I mean, what an enormous country. I mean, you can
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: see how it stretches the entire width of that whole
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  Speaker 8: Silk Road, and it is just an amazing country. But
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: it carries out as much smaller. It's a very mountainous country.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: It's known as the Switzerland of Central Asia. It's ninety
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: percent mountainous country, about eight million people, so not a
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: very large country in terms of population, but.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's city eight point zero eight million, Yes, eight million people.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: That's not a lot, no.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: No, But this is a like so many other places
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: that we see in the world, this is an important
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: battleground for the rise of China. Russia of course above
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: down in the war in Ukraine doesn't have the capabilities
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: that it once did, so its influence is declining.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: It's by no means gone because remember these.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: Countries were part of the Old Sort Union for many,
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: many decades, so Russian is widely spoken along with the
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: local languages.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: So what is China aim to do here, Philip Balboni,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Are they trying to basically take over southwestern Asia, to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: not annex, but have it as a certant, to actually
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: have it as a vassal state.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: Well, you know about the Belton Road initiative, Hue, there's
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: really extraordinary physical not a structure so much, but although
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: there were our structures railroads and roads and ports that
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: stretch from China all the way into Europe. In fact,
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: even Italy was part of the Belton Road at one point.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: And this is China's kind of.
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: Worldwide strategy for the movement of Chinese goods through all
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: these countries. And Central Asia is a very important place
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: because they can have you know, a land transhipment of
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: goods and move things more quickly than having to go
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: you know, by sea. And of course, now with the
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: you know, straight at home news closed and all these
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: terrible difficulties in Iran, alternatives are more important than ever.
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: So this is kind of the grand vision of President
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: Shy Jimping with the Beltian Road initiative, of which Central
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: Asia is a critical piece now.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, in fact you brought up around I'm glad
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you did. I was going to say, I believe that
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the United States has bombed some rail links that run
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: through the stands over to China as a means of
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: disrupting the export of oil via land and rail, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: so China obviously wants to re establish that. Why are
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the people of Kyrgyzstan objecting to this?
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: They are starting to to I guess it's like maybe
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: people anywhere when you have an external power, move in
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: and start to throw their way around kind of basically
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: a lot of money. I mean, China's trade with the
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: five Central Asian countries now totals one hundred billion dollars.
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: So it's an important source of investment capital into these countries,
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: and the the governments of those countries want that investment.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: But the people are starting to feel.
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: That this may not be in their best long term
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: interest to have yet.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: In last question, are there governments corrupt? Are we generally
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: talking about kleptocracies here.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about autocracies.
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