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The Mandalorian Chapter 16: The Rescue · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 3: here on the Mandalorian. As we work towards the Mandalorian
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  Speaker 3: final episode of season two, The Rescue, where none other
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  Speaker 3: than Luke Skywalker himself shows up coming to the rescue
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  Speaker 3: But John, I wanted to kind of ask you if
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  Speaker 3: you could go back in your mind to when this
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  Speaker 3: episode was going to air, how are you feeling about
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  Speaker 3: where you hoped that I guess you know this season
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  Speaker 3: might end. I mean, this is twenty twenty in December,
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  Speaker 3: and so how are you feeling with knowing that you know,
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  Speaker 3: this season was about to wrap up and you know
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  Speaker 3: you were going to have a Mandalarian free Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Well, twenty twenty was, of course a very special time
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  Speaker 2: in everybody's lives. And all I know is that I
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  Speaker 2: really wanted to to be the longest episode. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: this to be like a two hour episode. Every little
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  Speaker 2: bit of anything to give it joy was something to
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  Speaker 2: hold on to because the world was going crazy and
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  Speaker 2: nothing made much sense in the real world anymore. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, honestly, after you know, the second to last episode,
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  Speaker 2: which we talked about already, like that that set a
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  Speaker 2: stage where it was sort of like the way my
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  Speaker 2: cousin felt after Attack the Clones, where it was like,
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  Speaker 2: how do they go and top this? I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: where they were headed to from there that could possibly
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  Speaker 2: match sort of like the level of satisfaction that I'd
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  Speaker 2: had from that episode, because that was sort of next level.
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  Speaker 2: It made so many references to what I loved in
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  Speaker 2: film and different movies that I've seen and different things
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  Speaker 2: that really plug into just my core love of Star Wars,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'm i mean like there were spoilers
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  Speaker 2: flying around there were you know, everybody was online NonStop.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, going in, did you know what to expect?
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  Speaker 2: Had you seen anything that was a spoiler or anything
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  Speaker 2: that had set the stage for you or were you
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  Speaker 2: going in cold?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: No, I you know, when it comes to these type
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  Speaker 3: of shows, you know, I I will watch like a
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  Speaker 3: season trailer for something, but I don't want to watch
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  Speaker 3: really as much like what's coming next on the next
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  Speaker 3: episode type of trailers, those kind of things. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like to watch clips. I like to watch things in context.
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  Speaker 4: And so.
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  Speaker 3: No, I was definitely not into the spoiler scene. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, I thought what was was most interesting about
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  Speaker 3: this episode is that, you know, you really had set
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  Speaker 3: up a lot of stories in this episode, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you have this whole thing where we bring Bocaton back
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  Speaker 3: and she's looking to get the Dark Saber back, which
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  Speaker 3: ties into rebels, which reminds you that and she got
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  Speaker 3: the Dark Savor and rebels that had been handed to
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  Speaker 3: her and therefore it did not go so well in
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  Speaker 3: her trying to rule mandalor at that point, mm hmmm,
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  Speaker 3: You've got the whole Uh do we reunite Grogu and
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  Speaker 3: Mando and so that you know they can come back together.
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  Speaker 3: Is there going to be him completing the mission giving
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  Speaker 3: him to his kind a Jedi, you know? And if so,
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  Speaker 3: who's that going to be? Because Ahsoka said it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: going to be her. And and then you just you know,
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  Speaker 3: you have the friendships that that Mando's made along the way,
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  Speaker 3: where you know, you've got Cardoon and Finnik shand and
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  Speaker 3: of course Boa Fett all helping out here as well.
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  Speaker 3: And there, I mean, that's a lot happening in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: It is, really is.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think in that sense, like and and
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  Speaker 3: even coming into the episode, I don't know that Bo
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  Speaker 3: is going to be a part of this episode, right
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  Speaker 3: because I wasn't looking at spoilers, and so I think,
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  Speaker 3: like you, this just became one of those things where
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  Speaker 3: at this point with the Mandalorian, it's become such a enjoyable,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Star Wars experience again that when we get
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  Speaker 3: to this, I just didn't necessarily want it to end,
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  Speaker 3: Like you, I was like, I need this to be
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  Speaker 3: the longest freaking episode possible, just because I'm enjoying so
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  Speaker 3: much spending time with this world. The characters that have
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  Speaker 3: been created, the storyline that's been created, which you know
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  Speaker 3: has little bits and pieces and aspects of things that
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  Speaker 3: you know, we had like kind of read in the EU.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was loving all that stuff, So I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's definitely where I was coming into this. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think even just coming back to it
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  Speaker 3: and knowing all of the stuff that is going to happen,
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  Speaker 3: the other thing I was thinking that I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: ask you, does it hold up when you come back
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  Speaker 3: to it? You know, once all of the surprises are
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  Speaker 3: known for you, you know what's coming, you know how
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  Speaker 3: all the action beats are going to play out, and everything,
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  Speaker 3: you know Luke Skywalker is going to show up. Does
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  Speaker 3: this still hold up for you as kind of a
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  Speaker 3: high water mark of Star Wars, especially on television.
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  Speaker 2: I completely think that this holds up absolutely. I think
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  Speaker 2: that this is a really supremely well crafted episode where
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  Speaker 2: once you know the surprises, it's not about the anticipation
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  Speaker 2: of what's going to happen next. It's about the anticipation
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  Speaker 2: of knowing what's coming next and the treat that it is.
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  Speaker 2: And I think everything is just paced so well. It
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  Speaker 2: switches from what's going to happen for Oh, I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to see it happen. And I mean same question
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  Speaker 2: back to you. Do you think this holds up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't think anybody's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be surprised that I would have say absolutely, it holds up.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the fun part actually of going back
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  Speaker 3: now is because I know what's gonna happen, I get
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity then to be able to kind of look
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  Speaker 3: at all the little hidden Easter eggs that are in
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  Speaker 3: those scenes. And you know, specifically with Luke, what's beautiful
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  Speaker 3: is if you're watching the lights Saber choreography, there's so
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  Speaker 3: much Anakin in it. Are there are moves that Anakin
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  Speaker 3: literally makes in episode three that are there. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there's another hallway scene like Rogue one, but this time
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  Speaker 3: with the sun uh and you know all of that
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  Speaker 3: stuff is like, yeah, this is where giving the fans
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  Speaker 3: what they want, but doing it in a way that
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  Speaker 3: is legitimized by that story you're telling. That's the best
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  Speaker 3: part of being a fan of anything, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's akin to that moment of that we were feeling.
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  Speaker 3: I know you were a big fan of Startup per
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  Speaker 3: Card season three, right, and all of those moments that
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  Speaker 3: we were getting in that season as these characters that
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  Speaker 3: we loved so much came back together and had a
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  Speaker 3: last hurrah, you know, And in that this episode kind
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  Speaker 3: of scratches the itch that we had all had for
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  Speaker 3: the sequels for our favorite characters to come back and do.
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  Speaker 4: Cool stuff, man do cool stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like and and that we want our heroes to be
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  Speaker 3: heroes in that sense. And so I think that not
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  Speaker 3: only does it hold up, but I think it just
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  Speaker 3: continues to be one of those wonderful gifts that we
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  Speaker 3: were given as Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a really important point too, about it
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  Speaker 2: being a gift, because this is something that's very obviously
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  Speaker 2: crafted with the fans in mind, but without getting so
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  Speaker 2: inside their own heads that they're trying to outthink us
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  Speaker 2: or out clever us, or insists that the audience doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really know what they want like this is. This is
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  Speaker 2: something that is very deliberately constructed in such a way
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  Speaker 2: as to give joy to the people who are there
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  Speaker 2: going along for the ride. I mean, ultimately, we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about entertainment, and even when it's teaching you, it should
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  Speaker 2: be entertaining you. And part of that is plugging in
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  Speaker 2: to what you want and giving you not exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you want, but something that feels right. Nonetheless, it's sort
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  Speaker 2: of like, you know, going somewhere, and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: use food metaphors all the time, and I'm so sorry
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  Speaker 2: for that, but sometimes you know, you go to a
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  Speaker 2: restaurant and what's delivered isn't quite the way you expect
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  Speaker 2: the hamburger to be cooked, or the fries to be cut,
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  Speaker 2: or or making myself hungry now, but you get the point, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's it's about that giving the audience what they want,
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  Speaker 2: but not specifically what they're asking for. If that makes sense,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it does. But so much of
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  Speaker 2: that has to do, I think with Peyton Reid's direction,
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  Speaker 2: and I think Peyton Reid deserves a lot of credit.
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  Speaker 2: His work is you know, largely you know, like comic
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  Speaker 2: you know, you have Aunt Man, you have Bring it On,
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  Speaker 2: and you have all of those sorts of things, and
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  Speaker 2: it's all about pacing. And so I think that's really
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  Speaker 2: also about giving the fans what they want, which is
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  Speaker 2: not something that's pondering or laboriously you know, obsessed with itself.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that is coming at you, and it's coming
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  Speaker 2: at you in the right pace so that you're you're
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  Speaker 2: absorbing information and it's coming to you. And I think
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Reid was, you know, exactly the right director for
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  Speaker 2: this moment in time, if that makes any sense. You know,
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  Speaker 2: somebody come along and who's got film in his background,
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  Speaker 2: He's got Marvel in his background. He knows how to
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  Speaker 2: deliver something that is to an audience is liking well
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  Speaker 2: at the same time surprising them along the way because
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  Speaker 2: of the way the story is being told.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really glad that you pointed that out, because
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  Speaker 3: you know, when the episode ended and you know his
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  Speaker 3: name is there as director. I think you look back
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  Speaker 3: on the episode and you just think of not only
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  Speaker 3: how well paced everything is, but how cinematically done all
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  Speaker 3: of the action beats are, you know, from the fight
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  Speaker 3: in the hallway with Mando and mof Gideon to the
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  Speaker 3: choreography you get with Luke to again we talk about
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  Speaker 3: you know, Bo and Fenick Shan and car Dune, you know,
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  Speaker 3: making their way through the kind of the maze that
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  Speaker 3: they have to go through. Oh and having Cosa reeves
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  Speaker 3: there as well. I mean, so all of that, right,
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  Speaker 3: I think is and again I mean even just the action,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, three of them take out the stormtroopers
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, and then you have the stormtroopers come behind them,
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  Speaker 3: and then you've got Bo and Cosa who come up
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  Speaker 3: behind them, you know, and take them all. It's just
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  Speaker 3: there's all it's not just his his just timing of
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  Speaker 3: the episode, but every single part of the episode, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's the action, whether it's a little bit of humor,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's those moments where characters are just kind of
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  Speaker 3: facing off against each other and they're having a verbal battle,
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  Speaker 3: like with Bo and off Gideon where he's just chewing
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  Speaker 3: up scenery and her face looks like granite, you know,
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  Speaker 3: or she just wants to, you know, grind his bones
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  Speaker 3: into the ground because of what he's saying. Like all
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  Speaker 3: of this stuff is it's just really well done. And
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  Speaker 3: I and this is what I want to call this
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  Speaker 3: out because it's something we've noticed. I've noticed too in
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  Speaker 3: these episodes where we've seen these other Mandalorians who grew
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  Speaker 3: up as Mandalorians, they're used to the jet pack. Watching
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  Speaker 3: Bo and Costa fight with the jet pack is so
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  Speaker 3: awesome because it's just a part of who they are
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  Speaker 3: in their fighting style, and they do such incredible moves
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  Speaker 3: with them. You know, it's almost as if you know
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  Speaker 3: it's a jet fo you know, like it. And and
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  Speaker 3: it's funny because you know, you get this character like
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  Speaker 3: Den who hasn't had a jet pack all that long,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, he's just much more cumbersome in just
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  Speaker 3: his fighting style in general. He's always ground based. He's
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily thinking about the fact that he has a
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  Speaker 3: whole other, you know, basically third dimensional element to his
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  Speaker 3: fighting style he's just not utilizing. And I just love
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  Speaker 3: those little moments. It's because there's such character developing moments
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  Speaker 3: without having to say anything. It's just showing us, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's one of the things I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: somebody like Peyton Reid and these directors and everybody behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes, they've really thought a lot about what they're
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  Speaker 3: putting on screen. And again, this episode longer, it's forty
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  Speaker 3: four minutes, but these episodes are doing that in thirty
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  Speaker 3: to forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: And that even speaks to you know, what Lucas was about.
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  Speaker 2: Faster and more intense. That's just part of the Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars DNA is about getting the story to you efficiently
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  Speaker 2: and keeping it focused and bringing it to you. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, part of this episode also is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like we've been talking about, Luke comes back and they
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  Speaker 2: deliver Luke to us, Luke from you know, Return of
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  Speaker 2: the Jedi era Luke, not Luke as you know, episode
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  Speaker 2: seven Luke. But there's there were definitely feelings about how
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  Speaker 2: well they pulled off the effect and basically, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have sort of a door buster moment with Tarkan
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  Speaker 2: in Rogue one, where do you feel that Luke's you know,
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  Speaker 2: face replace move, you know, where does that land on
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  Speaker 2: a scale of one to Tarkin?
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  Speaker 3: It's not as good as Tarkan.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And it is interesting to me because.
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  Speaker 4: It it it actually felt like studios at that point
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  Speaker 4: were incredibly trepidacious about adopting kind of like off the
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  Speaker 4: shelf technology and utilizing that.
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  Speaker 3: And it just didn't feel as clean as it could
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  Speaker 3: have been, where it's like take what the off the
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  Speaker 3: shelf technology can do and then work from there. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you it's it's not as good as it could
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  Speaker 3: have been, It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that actually reminds me of there was
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: a book Star Wars three sixty five. It was a
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: coffee table book. It was a beautiful book and each
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  Speaker 2: it was three hundred sixty five pages. It was some
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  Speaker 2: aspect of production from the prequel trilogy, and in it
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  Speaker 2: there was a disc that came along with it. And
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: one of the things that John Nole talked about was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it took ILM all of their custom built
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: stuff to create X wings flying you know, to a
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  Speaker 2: certain degree or whatever. I'm probably butchering, you know, but
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  Speaker 2: like it took them, you know, three weeks to animate
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  Speaker 2: this thing, and he pulled some stuff off the shelf,
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  Speaker 2: cobbled it together, and he did it in like three days.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a one to one I'm pulling from memory,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: but that's the gist of it. So, you know, don't
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  Speaker 2: come at me, everybody if I got some details wrong
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  Speaker 2: on that. But the idea is that that kit bashing
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  Speaker 2: philosophy wasn't just for models. It was for technology, and
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  Speaker 2: Lucasfilm itself was known for, you know, doing that pulling
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  Speaker 2: stuff off and customizing it. So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: he got a really valid point there.
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  Speaker 3: I think the thing about that is is in the
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  Speaker 3: end and one of the aspects. Like I was just
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  Speaker 3: watching a little previewete thing with Jon Favreau talking about
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  Speaker 3: the making of Mandalorian Grogu, and this doesn't spoil anything,
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  Speaker 3: but he was just talking about, like, look, we're utilizing
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  Speaker 3: all the old technologies and all the new technologies, and
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  Speaker 3: we're just merging it all together to try and make
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  Speaker 3: the best thing we can. You know, they're utilizing a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the type of stuff like in some of
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  Speaker 3: the scenes and forests and stuff. They did the same
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  Speaker 3: thing that they didn't with Lord of the Rings where
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: they created this massive forest in a sound stage that
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  Speaker 3: looks incredibly real, and then you can use the digital
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  Speaker 3: technology to amplify all that. And it's like.
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  Speaker 4: You you just use what you.
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  Speaker 3: Have available to you and and and with all that
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  Speaker 3: we have, you know, you can tweak it here and there.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you use all these puppets, right, but
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  Speaker 3: all of those puppets also involve digital technology because you've
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  Speaker 3: got to remove all the stuff, and you have to
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  Speaker 3: you're cleaning up little movements here and there and all
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  Speaker 3: that suff And you know, they talked all about that
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  Speaker 3: in Project Hail Mary that just came out. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Rocky is not one hundred percent of Puppet one hundred
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  Speaker 3: percent of the time. And the goal was is is
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: it was for them, we have to create the ability
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  Speaker 3: for you to never know which is which right, And
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: so you know, again, this is just one of those
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: places where it was it's funny that they felt the
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: kind of urge to kind of fight just utilizing what's
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: already out there. But in the end, you know, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: think that I don't really care because Luke does feel
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: like Luke from the actions that he takes in and
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: every moment, you know, he he also has that kind
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: of wonderful serenity that you got at the end of
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Return of the Jedi, where a character feels as though
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: he has completed the journey and now he's on a
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: new journey. And it's one of those places where I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: have to ask you this, because when I finished this episode,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I want a Luke Skywalker like animated series where I
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: get to watch him, you know, train Jedi at his
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: temple or and stuff like that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, obviously, yeah, I mean I give
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: it to the animated team. Like with everything they're pulling
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: off right now, like they're they're bat in a thousand
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: they've been bat in a thousand since I can remember. So, yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: we could make that series forgetting realistic or anything like that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Just just give it to the animated team. I'm sure
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: they're you know. You know, honestly, it's like it's like
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: we've devolved into just this pitch machine for you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: shows and everything like that. So I don't know, maybe
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: maybe that's maybe that's just something we should be known
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for as being the pitch machine for stuff.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: We're just fueling like money printing ideas here at aggressive negotiations.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: But John, I don't this is a stupid question, but
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you anyway.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: This is a five, right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, come on, what do you think?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: This is a six on a scale of five.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a seven, now six, seven out of five,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Like it is a great episode in every possible way. Uh,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And I think it's just it's just such a love
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: letter to everything that's right and good when things are
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: done right and well. But also you know, I was
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: just at the end of it thinking, oh my gosh,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: is this it is? This? Is this truly the end?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Like Grogu's gone off? What what even comes next? I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: had I didn't know what they were going to do, Like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: was this just going to be a two season show?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I mean cool? If so, if that's where your arc ends, okay,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I mean it would have been, you know, the the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: gutsiest move, you know, it would have been the most
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: gutsy move since keeping Grogu a secret, or keeping his
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: name a secret, or blowing up the Razor Crest unexpectedly
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like there's or giving him the Dark Savor, like there
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: were so many unexpected things about the show. I wouldn't
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: have really been surprised if this was it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I I kind of thought to myself, where where do
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: they go next? You know, because the whole season the
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: series is kind of built around, you know, this lone
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Wolf and cub idea, and if there's no cub, well
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: what do you do? And you know, it'll be interesting
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: as we dive into season three next week, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to see how that does. And yeah, you know, I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: do want to let everybody know too. We're not going
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to be able to actually enter spurse the Boba Fette
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: episodes into this retrospective because we won't have the time.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: But maybe we'll do a Boba fet retrospective at some
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: point and talk about that for everyone. And but yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I mean I I definitely kind of thought to myself,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I think this might this could be just a two
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: season show. And I mean, at least I was satisfied
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: with the ending, but there were still so many things
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: that I wanted to know about that, you know, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: was glad that it wasn't.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see where that sentiment finds you or where
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: you find that sentiment when we get around to season three.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I guess, right, Matt, you know as we can to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you this rewatch huh right, yeah, this is true?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well, John, if people wanted to catch up
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: with you talk about the end of season two or
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: anything else Star Wars, where do they find you?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Well, you can find me out there as Castle Junkie,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: K S s E, L j U n Kie out
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: there on your social network of choice. But honestly, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: spend most of my time on Goodreads and Letterbox because
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I love talking about books and movies and little else
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: in all honesty, because whatever my opinion is about books
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and movies are all I can really affect in this world.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: But also I appear on another show here on the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: network called house Lights that I co host with Darren
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Moser and Tristan Rodel, where I patiently instruct them on
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: everything that they need to know about film as we
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: examine the works of different directors through time. And I
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: frequently say stuff like this at the end of this
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: show just to see if they're paying attention, because honestly,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's my calling, it's sort of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: my service in life. It's what the Lord has decided
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: to bestow upon me as this quest to educate them
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: in film.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: You know, it is a tough job, but somebody had
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: to do it, and you were the best man for
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the job.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: So well, I don't know if I'm the right man,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: but I'm definitely the most patient man to have to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: put up with their shenanigans and their tomfoolery every single week.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But I love it. I love it. It's my cross
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: to bear. I take it upon myself. It's my noble cause. Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, the Lord, you know, is just really trying
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: to sanctify you through this, you know, and he has so.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, yes, thank you, thank you for recognizing
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: my sacrifice. It means a lot. But Matt, why don't
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you tell everybody where they can find you? Out there
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: in the wilds of the Internet, including of course the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: fact that you are the host of The six Zho
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: two Club, a show that I enjoyed appearing on as
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: a guest. It's the godfather of this show. It's the
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: origin point of this show, folks, was the six zho
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: two Club out there. But Matt, where can people find you?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You can find me all over social media under the
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: name Matt Rushing zero two. If I'm on the platform,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you'll find me there.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It's been fun. I've actually been thinking a lot about
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: letterboxes as well. This year. My goal is to see
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: fifty two brand new movies in the theater, so one
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: a week, and I have been able to keep that
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: up so far. And I've got a list of all
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the things I've seen in the theaters here in twenty
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: twenty six. And as John so Clein youly mentioned, you
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: can find me over on the TFM network outside the
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: six oh two Club. Got a lot of great star
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: trek talk with my good friend Chris Jones. But John,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you know, I think they are serving Corelli and whiskey
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: tonight and some really nice Fallution cigars back at the
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Jedi Temple. So I think it's time to close these negotiations.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Oh no, fallution cigars. Were they gifts from the emperor?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Oh no, Oh Matt, we got to warn everybody. They're
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: exploding cigars. I think it's time to close these negotiations.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Join the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.