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Rugby Direct: Episode 213 · Rugby Direct

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  Speaker 2: and stay in the Game. Elliot Smith back with you
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  Speaker 2: for a late week podcast. No, Liam is part of
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  Speaker 2: the podcast still. I've seen some of the feedback on
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  Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts. He is still on the podcast. But when
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  Speaker 2: you break your wrist in ten places, you have a
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  Speaker 2: few specialist appointments to go through as well as other
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  Speaker 2: things as well. And that coincided with going to two
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  Speaker 2: podcasts a week. And it's here to stay. Our shit
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  Speaker 2: jewels have been clashing over the last week while and
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  Speaker 2: Nape's still not back in the office, So for those
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  Speaker 2: of you out there worried about Liam, Hopefully once he's
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  Speaker 2: back in the office and in the next couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 2: we're back to some normality on Rugby Direct. But we
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  Speaker 2: do appreciate you listening, Elligot Smith. As I said, with you,
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  Speaker 2: Mark Kelly, our producer is going to chip in with
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  Speaker 2: a bit here and there today as well. Of course
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  Speaker 2: you would have heard our earlier podcast in the week
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  Speaker 2: when the All Blacks assistant coaches were named. Feels like
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  Speaker 2: it's been a relatively straightforward procession in terms of the
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  Speaker 2: acceptance of those names. I don't think too many people
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  Speaker 2: have quibbled with the people that they put in place,
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  Speaker 2: so I think universally everyone's happy with Neil Barnes in particular,
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  Speaker 2: and his straightforward, no bullshit style of talking that I
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  Speaker 2: think is going to be outstanding for the All Blacks
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  Speaker 2: over the next couple of that he isn't long. May
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  Speaker 2: that be retained when he does media, and hopefully that
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  Speaker 2: flows through to the other coaches as well. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was refreshing Neil Barnes. He spoke after we did
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  Speaker 2: the podcast the other day, but he cut through the
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  Speaker 2: crap and I just thought it was what we needed
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  Speaker 2: to hear. It was reassuring. The proof is going to
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  Speaker 2: be in the pudding with the coaching, of course, but
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  Speaker 2: he strikes me, and I'm not sure anyone would disagree
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  Speaker 2: listening to this coach that just likes the basics, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what's deserted the All Blacks over the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years is the basics and hopefully this
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  Speaker 2: will be the start of getting it back together. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of work on his plate, Neil Barnes
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  Speaker 2: as he gets down to business with the All Blacks
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  Speaker 2: and Jason Ryan are the only assistants currently in the
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  Speaker 2: country along with tan Umonger. But he's got a job
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  Speaker 2: to focus on with Morena Pacifica, so there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work on his plate to connect with the Super
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  Speaker 2: Rugby franchises. It was encouraging to hear that he was
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  Speaker 2: in strong alignment with Jason Ryan, and having interviewed Jason
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  Speaker 2: Ryan for a couple of years now, I think they
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  Speaker 2: will go well together in the All Blacks setup as well.
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  Speaker 2: So universally pretty pleased, I think everyone with the names
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  Speaker 2: that were named by the New Zealand Rugby Steve Lancaster
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  Speaker 2: on behalf of Dave Rennie. It did throw up a
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  Speaker 2: couple of other questions though, and one of those is
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  Speaker 2: around Winda Pacifica and where they go to next. They
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  Speaker 2: said in their media release when they announced that tana
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  Speaker 2: Umage was leaving that they would start a recruitment process.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's going to be very, very important, and
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  Speaker 2: remembering this is going to be the franchise that has
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  Speaker 2: Ardi Savilla during next year's Rugby World Cup build up,
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  Speaker 2: so they need to manage him well. They need to
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  Speaker 2: have the right coach in charge. I think Orlando Sokai
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  Speaker 2: would probably be a real contender for that role. Potentially
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  Speaker 2: he's been around the traps for a bit and moved
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  Speaker 2: up the ranks coach Wellington to an NPC title. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: Selta mup Asuur former coach of Sarmore, could be in
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  Speaker 2: the conversation as well. Maybe Tom Commentry wants to step
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  Speaker 2: up to head coaching, but he's always been comfortable enough
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  Speaker 2: as an assistant. But I think from one to sake
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  Speaker 2: they need to get that right and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: probably better having that pacifica voice leading the team as
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  Speaker 2: they head into twenty seven and beyond. So watch the
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  Speaker 2: space Tartanaki also having to figure out their coach as
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  Speaker 2: well for the NPC. Although Neil Barnes did do the
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  Speaker 2: launch video. The draw video very entertaining. If you haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen it, search up the Tartanuki social media and hunted out.
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  Speaker 2: He draws every team that scheduled to play this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty special while worth the watch, but he of
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  Speaker 2: course will not be coaching them. We'll get into NPC
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  Speaker 2: in just a moment. Mark Kelly Fervent fan of Bay
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  Speaker 2: of Plenty, is going to jump on give us his
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  Speaker 2: take on the NPC draw which threw up a few surprises.
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  Speaker 2: But first on Rugby directs bit of a treat for you,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to hear from Peyton Spencer the Blues Fallback,
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  Speaker 2: joining us on the podcast ahead of his first start
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  Speaker 2: in the Blues Jersey and fifteen against the Fiji and
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  Speaker 2: Drewer on Saturday at Eden Park. All great pleasure to
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  Speaker 2: be talking to Peyton Spencer on new Stalk zbb's Rugby
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  Speaker 2: Direct podcast or Peyton, welcome to the show and congratulations
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  Speaker 2: on making your debut last weekend. Has it sun Ken
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  Speaker 2: that you now are super rug me play?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's so good yet to
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  Speaker 3: be honest, Yeah, obviously a pretty pretty surreal and special moment,
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  Speaker 3: not for not for just me but my family as well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, but yeah, just just proud and yes.
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  Speaker 2: How did you feel you came through? I think it
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  Speaker 2: was about twenty nine minutes half an hour. How did
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  Speaker 2: you feel you came through that game against war Tis.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Yeah, no, well, I wasn't expecting to get so
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  Speaker 3: much minutes, to be honest, I was just on the
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  Speaker 3: bench and then I didn't didn't realize that Zon went down,
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  Speaker 3: and before I knew it, I was I was already
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  Speaker 3: on the field. So I think I think it was
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  Speaker 3: a pretty good thing. You know, it didn't give me
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  Speaker 3: time to you know, focus on my nerves too much. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: did it.
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  Speaker 2: Fly by once you're out there? Did it go fast?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely, definitely. I just spoke to be out there,
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  Speaker 3: so definitely when time time flew.
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  Speaker 2: You had to wait away while for for a super
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  Speaker 2: rugby debut the last couple of years. You know, what's
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  Speaker 2: the process been like to get to this point for you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been you know, it's been a tough couple
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years, you know, with with injuries and whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, just you know, stayed in it and finally
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  Speaker 3: managed to have a good, you know, pretty good preseason
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  Speaker 3: this year. You know, finally gathered a bit of confidence
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  Speaker 3: back and and yeah, just said full belief in my
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  Speaker 3: ability and and yeah, managed to finally get that debut
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  Speaker 3: under the belt.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and how did you feel as a team coming
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  Speaker 2: off that one? You know, came from behind to win it.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the games that you've got to take and
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  Speaker 2: and claim, you know, very important competition points, aren't they?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeahred percent? Yeah it was. It was a massive
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  Speaker 3: one for the boys obviously, you know, got we had
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  Speaker 3: two weeks then until our by week, and we wanted
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  Speaker 3: to we wanted to finish off strong, hopefully getting onto
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  Speaker 3: the you know, top of that that leaderboard. So you
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  Speaker 3: had to come come back from what twenty twenty odd
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  Speaker 3: points down and to to want to end when when
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  Speaker 3: I was a bonus point as well was now is massive.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously a few changes this week as you play
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  Speaker 2: the drawer, you're obviously getting a start. How exciting is
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  Speaker 2: that prospect come Saturday night?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't too sure what
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  Speaker 3: was going to happen with too naming, But yeah, when
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  Speaker 3: I saw my fim my name in the in the
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  Speaker 3: starting lineup, I was you know, you know obviously to
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  Speaker 3: get that that privilege to put on the fifteen jersey.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm just gonna go out there and do
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  Speaker 3: do what I can do. My best and yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: enjoy the moment.
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  Speaker 2: With your listens from last week that you'll take into
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  Speaker 2: to this week. What specifically you're looking to improve on individually.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not too not too sure. I have a
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  Speaker 3: few things. I feel like, just finding my feet, finding
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  Speaker 3: my feet still, you know, getting used to the speed
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  Speaker 3: the physicality of of super rugby. So yeah, hopefully you
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  Speaker 3: find in the first first few few minutes.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, on the way, what do you expect
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  Speaker 2: from the drawer this week? They're being sort of wee
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  Speaker 2: bit up and down this season, but they can be
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  Speaker 2: pretty dangerous when they get born hand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you never know what you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get with Fuji. Obviously, their their skills and skill
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  Speaker 3: skills and everything is you know, next level obviously some
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  Speaker 3: big boys, so physicality is going to be a big one.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like, yeah, we're just focusing on
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  Speaker 3: focusing on our game. You know what we need to do,
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  Speaker 3: We know what we need to do to win, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, we know, we know some of their strengths,
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  Speaker 3: so obviously will be looking out for that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: pretty much just mainly focus on on what we have
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  Speaker 3: to do and hopefully get a job done.
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  Speaker 2: And how special seeing on the TV coverage last week
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  Speaker 2: to have your parents over there in Sydney for your debut.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, obviously it was. It was special heads
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  Speaker 3: you know, all of my family over over to watch. Now,
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  Speaker 3: it was very special to have them there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously watching my debut. To see them after the game,
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  Speaker 3: you know, go to spend time with them, just to
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  Speaker 3: share the moment with with them was you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: cool as a very special moment.
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  Speaker 2: And and just personally do you see yourself as a
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  Speaker 2: as a teen to fifteen in the way you can
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  Speaker 2: play with you primarily sort of focusing on on fullback
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  Speaker 2: for now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for now I would say I'm primarily focusing on
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  Speaker 3: on being out the back at full back, fullback or wing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I haven't played. I mean I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 3: no to plane sin, but yeah, yeah, right now I'm
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  Speaker 3: focusing on being being on the outside.
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  Speaker 2: Good man, Well, wishing the best of luck from fullback
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  Speaker 2: this week against the Drawer. Thanks to your time, Peyton.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to catch up and best of luck this week.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Great to catch up with Peyton Spencer. What a nice
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  Speaker 2: shack man and really looking forward to see where he
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  Speaker 2: goes on his Rugby Jersey junior brother in the next week,
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  Speaker 2: while and looking forward to seeing get his first start
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday live commentary of course of that game on
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  Speaker 2: gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Let's get into the NPC and
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  Speaker 2: the draw that has been released and look a few surprises.
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  Speaker 2: We've gone away from the provincial grounds that have especially
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  Speaker 2: for Wellington been their home for the last couple of seasons,
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  Speaker 2: played at Jerry Collins Stadium and port Or for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of seasons. They're playing all their home games at
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  Speaker 2: Henry Stadium this year, which seems suboptimal. I'd have to
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  Speaker 2: be honest. Now, at Jerry Colin Stadium it provided a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of an issue because they couldn't have games
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  Speaker 2: at night there and that flows on to the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the drawer. I'm sure. But you know, we've cried
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  Speaker 2: out for years for the NPC to go to smaller
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  Speaker 2: venues and now they seem to be going back. Auckland
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  Speaker 2: Rugby have yet to announce whithery're attacking a game to
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  Speaker 2: or high school. Canterbury is going to play all their
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  Speaker 2: games in one New Zealand stadium in the center of
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  Speaker 2: the city rather than take a game to rng Eura,
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  Speaker 2: which they have in the path. So look on the
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  Speaker 2: surface of it, pretty disappointing what we've seen there. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there are legitimate reasons for it, but we've been
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  Speaker 2: crying out for years Mark around taking these games, especially
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  Speaker 2: the ones in the big centers, to smaller venues, and
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  Speaker 2: now we seem to have gone back to the start.
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  Speaker 2: What he made to the draw.
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  Speaker 4: It's idiol elliot, I'll tell you that much Afray. It's
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  Speaker 4: as you said, that one Canterbury game that they're playing
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  Speaker 4: Ring Euro it's a sellout. It's incredible scenes. Jerry Colin
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  Speaker 4: Stadium has been a phenomenal place. It seems to always
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  Speaker 4: just absolutely bucket down with rain when they do play there.
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  Speaker 4: And I've been to the last couple of Auckland games
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  Speaker 4: at Auckland Grammar and they're still only sort of four
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  Speaker 4: or five thousand, but it feels like a it feels
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  Speaker 4: like a proper sort of big crowd, and I there's
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  Speaker 4: lots of list as, no big bay of plenty steamers.
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  Speaker 4: Then we played the toting of Domain. I think our
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  Speaker 4: capacity is about four and a half thousand, and it
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  Speaker 4: feels like it's ten, twelve to fifteen sort of thing
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  Speaker 4: with the draw for just speaking as a Steamers fan,
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  Speaker 4: we've actually only got I think I believe two games
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  Speaker 4: at the toting Of domain this year. The rest of
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  Speaker 4: them are in Roade Vegas at the Honey Pit Rotoro
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  Speaker 4: International Stadium, and again just because we don't have lights
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  Speaker 4: in Totinger, but you'll see the crowds drop off probably
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  Speaker 4: eighty percent ninety because nobody in Rotoroa really supports the bay.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody makes that fifty minute drive.
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  Speaker 2: But so that's that just quart a gouple of strays.
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  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, no I don't I don't mind Roada Vegas,
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  Speaker 4: but it's yeah, the schedule's weird. There's a couple of
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  Speaker 4: two or five games and then they'll just have a
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  Speaker 4: big gap from that two to seven and there'll be
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  Speaker 4: two games at ten past seven. And I do get
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  Speaker 4: slightly worried with Tea and said sort of now producing
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  Speaker 4: it and chucking on their platforms with sort of the
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  Speaker 4: last what's particularly this last series with the black Cats
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  Speaker 4: black Caps South Africa, it seemed like they really took
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  Speaker 4: their hands off the wheels as a production value. So
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  Speaker 4: I hope it's a lot better than what they've kind
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  Speaker 4: of done with cricket in the last year. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: exciting that's free to there. What is the first time
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  Speaker 4: in thirty years, Yeah, of the MPC. Yeah, so there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot to play for. But it doesn't make any
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  Speaker 4: sense to me why teams like Auckland and Wellington have
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  Speaker 4: gone back to thirty thousand seat plus stadiums when they
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  Speaker 4: only get five to seven thousand people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was such a great year of NPC
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  Speaker 2: last year as well. People think it's the best one
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  Speaker 2: in the years and it was genuinely it was great
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  Speaker 2: contests and highly entertaining rugby and a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: is because it's played during the day. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: games at night, you know, just don't have that switch
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  Speaker 2: on factor and all the attendance factor. I would have
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  Speaker 2: been putting more games in the day. You can stagger them.
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  Speaker 2: You can have a one o'clock kick off, you have
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  Speaker 2: a three o'clock kickoff in maybe a four thirty or
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  Speaker 2: five o'clock kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: You couldn't agree more. And it's one of those things.
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  Speaker 4: Particularly in the last what ten to fifteen years, the
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  Speaker 4: Super rugby sort of provinces haven't been sort of I
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  Speaker 4: say shotgunning the players sort of thing like now, if
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  Speaker 4: you've grown up in Total or we've grown up in
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  Speaker 4: Napier or Tartanaki, you actually go home and play for
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  Speaker 4: your province now and you've seen that with the results Auckland.
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  Speaker 4: What haven't made the top eight in the last two years.
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  Speaker 4: I think they've crushed the format New Zealand rugby and
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  Speaker 4: with the quarterfinals and all that sort of stuff, but
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  Speaker 4: they just haven't sort of worked out the venues where
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  Speaker 4: I believe if there's an opportunity to play in a
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  Speaker 4: stadium less than sort of fifteen thousand people, that's where
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  Speaker 4: you should be playing every time.
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  Speaker 2: Aukland should be playing at Trusts Stadium. They should not
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  Speaker 2: be playing at Eden.
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  Speaker 4: Come with how many great first fifteen venues there are,
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  Speaker 4: from Grandma to dilwor the Kings to Saint Kence. You
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  Speaker 4: could check that on. It'd be great viewing on television
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  Speaker 4: with the estory in the background. Like there's plenty of options.
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  Speaker 4: And I just don't understand when the last time I
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  Speaker 4: went to Auckland MPC game was a couple of years
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  Speaker 4: ago and against Southland, and one stand was you could
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  Speaker 4: sit there for the Rugby and the other stand there's
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  Speaker 4: an art show on and it's unbelievable. But there was
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  Speaker 4: the day that the triple head with a Heartland game.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was a fair Apartment Cup and then
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  Speaker 4: into an NPC. But yes, strange strange decisions, but the
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  Speaker 4: one I just throw out my favorite game. I'm already
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to Round two. Shield up for grabs, Otaga Canterbury.
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  Speaker 4: Canterbury take that shield, that'd be great. I love that
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  Speaker 4: they're playing the Steamers the following week when you get
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  Speaker 4: your hotes up. We don't have a great track there
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  Speaker 4: playing in Canterbury. I think we've won about twice in
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  Speaker 4: twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: But once it gets to one New Zealand Stadium made
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  Speaker 2: it stay fortress.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I actually for the first couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's going to be well supported down there.
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  Speaker 4: Canterbury Rugby, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I'm I'm into minds like I think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a big NBC sorry, big super season
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  Speaker 2: once it kicks off there with Super Round. But I
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  Speaker 2: think for the first year or so, there's still going
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  Speaker 2: to be that novelty factor of going to the stadium. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: it may be physical out maybe by the second year
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  Speaker 2: and when NPC twenty twenty seven rolls around, it may
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  Speaker 2: be an issue, but I think it's it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a success down there and can't wait. And incidentally,
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  Speaker 2: before we wrap this up, not on NPC, but they
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  Speaker 2: have an Outscribe playing the halftime show of the opening
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  Speaker 2: Crusader's Warritars game in the Super Round.
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  Speaker 3: Huge.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait there. It's one of Canterbury's favorite sons,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it. Well.
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  Speaker 2: His first album is definitely his most successful, was called
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  Speaker 2: The Crusader.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it makes sense. It's like the Warriors bringing
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  Speaker 4: out Savage home.
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  Speaker 2: Game into that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they don't do it enough in Super Rugby.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I know they've kind of worked out in the last
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: particularly this season with the sort of kid zones and whatnot.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I look I like the Exponents playing at the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Chiefs home game like they did in ninety six. That
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: was cool, But yeah, they've no no on You know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Scribe is twenty years from his heyday, but he's still
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: resonant with a lot of the people, especially the Three.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Usually some of his songs are still when they're on a.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: If any How, I got the skills set that's the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: saying that has written exactly exactly right. Enough about scribe,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: let's get into some tipping. Liam and I both got
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: four each last weekend. He picked the Chiefs to beat
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the Brumbies. I picked the drawer to beat the Reds.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Otherwise we were the same four or four lims ahead
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: by one and the overall standings. Although having said that,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Liam's tips have been done by mules on occasion the season,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and now they're going to be done by you. So
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a lot apprecia for Liam to maintain that slender one
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: point lead. We start with Mowana Pacifica against the Highlanders
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: seven o five on Friday night. Commentating this game alongsid
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: pet A Latini for a Gold Sport on iHeartRadio. Hasn't
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: been a flash couple of weeks for Mowana Pacifica ship
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: fifty seven I think it was against Mowana after that
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: big loss to the Western Force and then the Hurricanes,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they're in a bit dire straits Mowana. Can they bounce
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: back though against the Highlanders.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Well, talk about struggling. Highlands are right up there as well.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: What a record breaking fifty to seven loss last week
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: against the Really and they scored first. Yeah it was
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: so there was fifty unanswered. I think that the largest
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: loss ever in Super Rugby.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Well they drop for our fuck a Tabor for this
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: week as.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Well, interesting was it?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: The younger is coming in at half back, Adam Lennox
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: off the bench. They've got a lot of injuries at Locke.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: No Lucas Casey this week. What do you reckon?
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I think the Landers will do it. My only issue
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: would be as currently in Auckland according this on the Thursday,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: terrible weather. They used to sort of inside stuff. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: know they're Southern men whatnot, but they play in Forsyth
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Bar where there's a roof. I think they Highlanders will
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: squeak by. I'll be a one to ten, one to
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: ten victory twelve. Sorry for the Landers.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to go more one to Pacifica. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: think there's too many injuries there for the Highlanders, although
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Moe has got a couple of Smissy tip or Di
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Low is out injured. But I'm going to go more
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: one at home.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Just the X factor, Caleb Tangata's unbelievable this season and
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: on that and that sort of back through, I think
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: they've still got something that can break open games and
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: so that it will be close. Mine will hang around
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to about sixtieth minute and then run out of gas.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Brumbies. Wata's nine to thirty five.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Brumbies.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: You can Yeah, I can't get past the Brumbies. Look,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the more they collect wins like this, the high they're
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: going to be on the table at the end of
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the season. That's always been potentially their issues that they
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: haven't finished in the top two. They don't play that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: extra week at home, they have to go on the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: road in week two. The longer they can play at home,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the more dangerous start. It's kind of like the Crusaders.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You give them a home game, maybe not so much
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: with the new stadium, but no one wants to go
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to a Canberra in June and June.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And you kind of saw that, not that
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: it was in June last week, but twenty four to
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: seven down against the Chiefs and Slippers, historic two three
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: game whatever it was, and they didn't give up. It
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: was bang bang tried two tries in three minutes and
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: then yeah, and they've kind of they had that huge
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: victory against the Crusaders and then that was massive again
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: in against the Chess. Yeah, I'm going Brumby. It's just yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: it's it's a fortress over there.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm with young Brumbies Hurricanes. Read this is at the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: aforementioned Henry Stadium in Wellington for thirty five Saturday. Ross
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Bond and Matt Buck have the call for you on
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: gold Sport and iHeart Radio.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: The Happy Couple of Wellington.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: No, I think your Hurricanes at this point of the season.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: What round seven are the form team, the favorite team
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: for me to win, to win the title. Yeah, I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: going Hurricanes. Then would kill you if you and I
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: was thinking about just going all sort of underdogs just
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: to really screw with Liams. But no, I think Hurricanes
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: will do it easy Blues draw. I suspect the Blues
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: will do this easy draw. Don't travel particularly well. The
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Blues have a couple of injuries. Papa is out, so
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: two two is out, Sullivan is out, They've got Peyton
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Spencer starting, who we heard from before on the pod.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: But I think they'll be too got.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: At home, Yes, and it could one think that could
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: help for you. It's as mentioned before, it's absolutely teeming
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: down in Auckland currently whether it's not looking great on Friday,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: and that's pretty much Lauatoka in a nutshell not probably
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: not one hundred percent humidity that they're used to. Yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: but yeah, the Blues will. They had a bit of
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: a scare last week against the Wortars and maybe that
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: sort of second half might have sort of kicked their
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: season back into tracks. So yeah, I'll be going bluesing
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: that one as well.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And the final game of the round Force the Chiefs.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: This is in Perth on sayat Today Night Malcolm Jordan
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: with the call for you of that one. I think
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs win, but I think the Force will give
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: them a little bit of a scare. That Force I
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: have Zach Lomax. They don't have a lot about them necessarily,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: but I just think two weeks on the road for
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs that sort of thing. I know they'll be
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: frustrated and probably come out hissing after last week, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: they've got a few injuries. You know, Daniel Rohn has
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: returned home to Bova's returned home. They're not the only one.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: So I think the Chiefs win, but I'm hesitant to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: go through plus at this point in time.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really excited to put my blue and gold
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: eye patch on Arcoy's getting a start at Lock. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: think I mean the Force Colors he was last year.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: He was in the sort of realm of almost being
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: caught up to the All Blacks. He was called up
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: for the late into squads. At some point. It's finally
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: getting a proper go starting and he hasn't looked great
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: to start the LB first, to admit that. And also
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Leroy Carter other steaming and that's a player that like
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: you might not think he's plaid there a lot, but
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: for Steamers he's played there half a dozen times. Actually
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Round one of NPC last year. I actually believe he
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: almost ruined David Haveli's All Blacks career because he ran
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: around them on two separate occasions to score in a
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: massive win for the Steamers in round one. And I
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: love it. I think he's I've been huge on this
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: hybrid player and we don't quite have one year in
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Super rugby in New Zealand or an Indian rugby at all.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: And I think he can play half back. Meagine him
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: at thirteen. Perfect player isn't just keep playing wherever somebody
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: gets injured or not playing well or whatever the cases.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I think there are questions around his defense and his
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: high ball ability on the wing, but boy, he's got
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: more pace than you can shake his stick.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Aut and he's strong and he loves getting in the
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: ruck and more of this. Yeah, it's what they call
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: him bumper. But yeah, I'm very, very excited to see
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: him and also just to keep on this Babel any
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Steamers chat. Great to hear Emmony now that I was
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: resigned for a couple more years as well. I don't
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: know how much he'll play for the Steamers in the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: coming years if he sticks around, there's all black jerseys.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Well, he's another one that can play fullback, wing and center.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: And that's that's been from what's Craiden McMillan and Richard
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: what have done with the Steamers this year because we've
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: had so many outside backs with for Heir from the Hurricanes.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Who else we've had Bloody Nigel Yeah, he used to
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: see there as well, and we've had sevens players galore,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Emony Leroy and just about fitting Cole Forbes another one.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: So this is an esteemer's podcast. I'd love it to
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: be though, but yeah, it's exciting because that's what NPC
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: is for trialing it out sort of things, seeing what
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: they can do, and this is that next step for them,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna be great to see how how Leuo
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Okarta goes at third it is.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Indeed, you're a good band, producing Mark. Thank you very
• 24:23
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• 24:25
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• 24:28
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