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Victoria Coates | Former Deputy National Security Advisor & Current Heritage Foundation VP on the Latest Coming from the Middle East · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Victoria Coates does an amazing job as a VP of
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  Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation on this show often. I used to
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  Speaker 1: have a split between me and Maria, but something happened there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still waiting to find out the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I love Maria Bartiromo, and she'll be back somewhere and
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  Speaker 1: be great again, I'm sure. But I still got her,
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  Speaker 1: Victoria Coates. So good morning, Victoria. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, good morning, Sid. I wanted to start by presenting
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  Speaker 2: my compliments to your Giants for beating Dallas on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: That brought us all together.
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  Speaker 1: You like that.
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  Speaker 2: They might get a peace prize.
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  Speaker 1: You like that. And your Eagles didn't look so good.
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  Speaker 1: You got the win against Washington, but didn't look so good.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Jalen's line was pretty good. We have a
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  Speaker 2: new offense, and so we'll see what happens this week.
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  Speaker 2: But we were cautiously optimistic following the game.
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  Speaker 1: You got the win. So thank you for the giant
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  Speaker 1: kind words, and you guys won too. And here we go,
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  Speaker 1: Giants and Eagles. I think they'll be the last two
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  Speaker 1: teams standing inside the NFC East.
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  Speaker 2: We will see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And also great compliments to you for this meeting. I
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  Speaker 2: was reading about it Politico this morning and then hearing
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  Speaker 2: you talk about it. I think this is critically important.
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  Speaker 2: This was my message when I was in Israel at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the month. It's it's. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: have a spirited primary. We all have folks we like personally,
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  Speaker 2: are committed to going through this process. We should, the
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  Speaker 2: president said repeatedly, we should have a strong primary, get
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  Speaker 2: everybody all tuned up. But when we have a nominee,
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Sid, everybody has to get in the
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  Speaker 2: canoe and start rowing because the alternative is unconscionable. And
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  Speaker 2: so I really respect your willingness to go down and engage.
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  Speaker 2: I've known Nick Luna for years for... He is a
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  Speaker 2: good man. And I think, you know, that this is
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  Speaker 2: a really, really important step. So thank you for doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a big deal coming from you, to be honest, Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that. Seriously, thank you very, very much.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just told by my friend John McLaughlin
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  Speaker 1: that Nick Luna is the grandson of the late Republican
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  Speaker 1: senator from Tennessee, Brett Thompson. Yes, that is true. That's huge.
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  Speaker 2: He's married to Cassidy Dumbled, who's Jared's chief of staff.
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  Speaker 1: Howard Kushner, that's right. And Trump loves him. I know
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  Speaker 1: Trump loves him. And you love him, so I love him.
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  Speaker 1: And look, like you said, there is no other way.
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  Speaker 1: If it comes down to J.D. Vance versus any Democrat,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. It's J.D. Vance. So
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  Speaker 1: we can get all fired up if Marco decides to
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  Speaker 1: run and Ted is going to run and we'll all
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  Speaker 1: get crazy with all of this. But when the vice
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  Speaker 1: president calls you and says, come to D.C., I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you, what kind of moron wouldn't do it?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, this is this is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: good day. So I look forward to hearing about it
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  Speaker 2: on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Victoria. I'll let you know for sure. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get to some of the things you want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today, which is the U.S. energy policy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it says on my notes after the Iran conflict. And
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  Speaker 1: of course, a lot of us want to know exactly
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  Speaker 1: when that's going to be. Some say it's already over.
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  Speaker 1: We've already won. But, you know, I have not subscribed
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  Speaker 1: to that. Not yet. I want to, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: there yet. But what do you think happens here? I
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  Speaker 1: think I read that you wanted a full reset. Is
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  Speaker 1: that correct?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I always hesitate to use the word reset because
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  Speaker 2: Hillary used it. But I think we're going to see
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  Speaker 2: a remapping of the Middle East. And this is already happening.
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  Speaker 2: We had the meeting in Germany earlier this month of
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  Speaker 2: essentially the GCC plus Jordan and Egypt plus Israel. All
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  Speaker 2: meeting under sent count. Admiral Cooper chaired that meeting. And
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  Speaker 2: now there are reports today that the president is going
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  Speaker 2: to convene the heads of state. and the high-ranking representatives
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  Speaker 2: of those governments around the United Nations General Assembly next week,
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  Speaker 2: for which I apologize to everyone in New York. It's
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  Speaker 2: a horrible time. But that's really important. That's the president
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  Speaker 2: bringing people together on the military side. Oh, and then
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  Speaker 2: we had the G20 energy ministers in Houston this week.
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  Speaker 2: So we have all of these meetings taking place under U.S. auspices.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see China doing anything like this. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't see Russia doing anything like this by any stretch
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  Speaker 2: of the imagination. And so the United States is actually
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  Speaker 2: getting stronger. So as we do resolve this conflict, I
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  Speaker 2: think it will wrap up after the midterms. Then we
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  Speaker 2: can start rebuilding what people refer to as the global order,
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  Speaker 2: but do it in President Trump's parameters.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what exactly is the aforementioned Vice President J.D. Vance
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  Speaker 1: talking about, Victoria, when he said a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: ago that the Iran war is about to enter a
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  Speaker 1: new phase? What exactly is he talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that is consistent with what I understand,
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  Speaker 2: which is the Iranians calculated that the president would be
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  Speaker 2: forced to the negotiating table before the midterms to try
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  Speaker 2: to bring energy prices down. And the president, God love him,
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  Speaker 2: he is not going to do that. He's not going
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  Speaker 2: to knuckle under for anyone, especially Tehran. And so he
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  Speaker 2: just said, you know what, I'm going to try to
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  Speaker 2: explain this to the American people. We're going to keep
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  Speaker 2: pumping like crazy. And, you know, we're going to do
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  Speaker 2: our best to keep prices down. But the most important
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  Speaker 2: thing is to keep a nuclear weapon out of their hands.
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  Speaker 2: And so we're going to keep the pressure on. And
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  Speaker 2: so what the Iranians are now facing is not six
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  Speaker 2: more weeks of this. They're facing six more weeks and
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  Speaker 2: two years. And they can't do that. So I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the president really turned the tables on them. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hopefully we will continue to make the case
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  Speaker 2: to the American people for the midterms. But the long
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  Speaker 2: term play that he's he's engaged in, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: keep that weapon out of the Iranians hands. I think
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  Speaker 2: we're well on our way to realizing that and that
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  Speaker 2: we will, as the vice president says, be in this
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  Speaker 2: new phase, you know, in the coming weeks.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned China moments ago and. President Trump
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  Speaker 1: right now is only concerned in this AI discussion about
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  Speaker 1: staying ahead of China, not coming back to beat them
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  Speaker 1: because we are beating them. Just about every measurement of AI.
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  Speaker 1: I had Gordon Chang on this show for 10 minutes yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We're beating them. But, but, you know, they're tough. They
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  Speaker 1: are tough. And he is deathly afraid to fall behind.
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  Speaker 1: And now you got mostly Democrats, because Elon Musk is
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  Speaker 1: not really a Republican, mostly Democrats led by Barack Obama
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  Speaker 1: yelling and screaming, the world is coming to an end.
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  Speaker 1: The bots are going to kill us. We're all going
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  Speaker 1: to die. We need safe rails and guardrails and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Some of that's true. Same thing with data centers. No
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  Speaker 1: one on the right is saying that these things don't
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  Speaker 1: come with a certain amount of risk. But the reward
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  Speaker 1: heavily outweighs the risk. President Trump knows that. The Democrats don't.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think happens moving forward?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think this is going to be a generational
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  Speaker 2: issue for us. And the question that I have that
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  Speaker 2: nobody's really been able to answer is, how does China
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  Speaker 2: keep a free, unfettered AI pursuit? and keep the control
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  Speaker 2: that they have over their people. Because all of that
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  Speaker 2: is based on controlling information. That's how they keep their
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  Speaker 2: totalitarian regime in control. So if they open up to
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  Speaker 2: unfettered AI development, which is what they say they're going
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  Speaker 2: to do, how does that not completely liberate the Chinese
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  Speaker 2: people and undermine their control? So I'm very curious about that.
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  Speaker 2: And I do think we need to keep pushing them.
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  Speaker 2: in that direction. We need to keep advancing. So they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep up. It kind of turns into, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the sort of the end of the Soviet Union where,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're going after SDI. They have to try
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  Speaker 2: to pursue it as well. They lose control. And so
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, the president's on the right track.
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  Speaker 2: We obviously want to do this safely. We want to
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  Speaker 2: do it mindfully, particularly of our children. And we don't
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  Speaker 2: want to create... genocidal bots that are going to come
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  Speaker 2: after us, obviously. But that should be within our capabilities.
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  Speaker 2: And I really am so curious to see how China
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  Speaker 2: handles this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he's coming, Xi. Yeah, he's coming. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people want to see how that goes, the dynamic
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  Speaker 1: between Trump. Because remember, when the president, when our friend
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  Speaker 1: went to China, everything seemed very, very nice. Although people
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  Speaker 1: tell me behind closed doors were some issues. And then
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  Speaker 1: as soon as he got home, he held that press conference,
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  Speaker 1: that news conference. On the networks, we talked about China
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  Speaker 1: rigging the 2020 election. You know that Xi saw that,
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  Speaker 1: of course. So now people are curious, when Xi gets here,
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of issues with China. We know for a
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  Speaker 1: fact that they are helping with arms with Iran in
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  Speaker 1: this race. Also satellites, they've helped Iran in this conflict.
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  Speaker 1: All kinds of issues. What do you expect between Trump
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  Speaker 1: and Xi when he gets here?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think the president does have a cordial relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Chairman Xi, and that's something he's willing to leverage
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  Speaker 2: to diffuse the possibility of conflict, because the worst thing
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  Speaker 2: for everyone would be armed conflict between the United States
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  Speaker 2: and China. We have estimations that on day one, of
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  Speaker 2: a conflict, we have a 10% global GDP contraction. And
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  Speaker 2: it gets worse from there, regardless of how long it
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  Speaker 2: goes and regardless of who wins. That's a global depression, essentially.
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  Speaker 2: We really want to avoid that. So if the president
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  Speaker 2: wants to have some photo ops with Chairman Xi, maybe
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  Speaker 2: give him a nice piece of that chocolate cake he
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  Speaker 2: likes down at Mar-a-Lago. I'm fine with that. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, he has made very clear That he's
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  Speaker 2: playing hardball. He's playing for the United States of America.
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  Speaker 2: We want to avoid conflict. That doesn't mean we're going
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  Speaker 2: to just appease them. We're going to defend our interests.
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  Speaker 2: And that global depression is as bad for them as
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  Speaker 2: it is for us. So hopefully we can get through
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  Speaker 2: this period without that happening.
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  Speaker 1: Final 60 seconds, Victoria. You and I have spent time
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  Speaker 1: together in Jerusalem the last two years. We both spoke
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  Speaker 1: at JNS.org's International Summit Conference. We spoke actually the same
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  Speaker 1: block the last two years. And you really are great.
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  Speaker 1: And they love you in Israel. You love Israel. So
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  Speaker 1: do I. And, you know, I'm friendly with Bibi and
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  Speaker 1: so are you. so what do you expect when the
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  Speaker 1: prime minister makes his way to New York a week
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  Speaker 1: from today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he better not get arrested. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous that it would even be a sentence that one
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  Speaker 2: would say. So I think the prime minister will give
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  Speaker 2: a very strong speech at the United Nations. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to need to hear it. Some some real clear language
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  Speaker 2: on what is and is not happening in Gaza, what
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  Speaker 2: their intentions are for Lebanon, what they are concerned about
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  Speaker 2: in Syria. And I think we're going to hear a
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  Speaker 2: lot about Turkey, because when I was there at the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of the month, that was a very hot topic
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  Speaker 2: with everyone is what is going to go on with Turkey.
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  Speaker 2: So I think, you know, it'll be another good visit.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's night. I'm losing count of how many
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  Speaker 2: times he's met with President Trump. uh in in this
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  Speaker 2: in this second term so you know we'll continue that
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  Speaker 2: real close collaboration it's always good to see him i
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  Speaker 2: saw uh minister sar when i was in new york
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  Speaker 2: this week so uh they are all ready for him
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  Speaker 2: to arrive and i i think we'll have a good.
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  Speaker 1: Unga are we subservient to israel.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, no, Donald Trump is not subservient to anyone. Neither
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  Speaker 2: is the United States. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, that's a word I'll have to bring up with
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  Speaker 1: the vice president later on today. I say, JD, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of words you could use. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: what to use that one. Anyway. Um, you are so great.
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  Speaker 1: I love you. Thank you for coming on today. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do it again. Very, very soon.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Sid. Safe travel. Talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. The VP of the Heritage Foundation,
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  Speaker 1: Victoria Coates.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here?