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- 1:22All Right, couple stories I want to talk about and I'm a little
- 1:25torn on which one I want to talk about first, but I think it's
- 1:29important that we talk about this one first. And I found this story initially
- 1:37on the Blaze, and this is a story about By the way, if
- 1:45you didn't know, April is Autism Awareness month. All right, we have
- 1:52all of our months. We have a lot of months. There's a lot
- 1:56of them, and I think the ones that have any sort of a connection
- 2:01to and it takes nothing away from the others, but I do think that
- 2:06some of these months tend to get a little more attention than others, and
- 2:08I think the ones that relate to any sort of mental health don't get the
- 2:14attention that they deserve. And I say that concerning autism. Obviously, when
- 2:20you start talking about neurodivergent brains, you start talking about the things that people
- 2:23with autism deal with. And I feel like this is one of those months
- 2:29that we should take some time to be educated a little bit more about autism.
- 2:35It affects a lot of people right at varying levels, so it's important
- 2:42that we are aware of all of those aspects of that autism spectrum. Now,
- 2:47with that said, and maybe one of the reasons that this story has
- 2:53bubbled up to the top, other than the fact that it's a pretty earth
- 3:00shattering, potentially earth shattering type of story. And the headline, of course
- 3:07grabs your attention because it basically mentions that there's healthy people who have autism in
- 3:12their twenties are set to be euthanized in the Netherlands and in Canada. Okay,
- 3:19that's enough to get your attention, right, that's what headlines are supposed
- 3:22to do. And this is an article by Joseph McKinnon with The Blaze,
- 3:28so basically, in short, and this is me and you can check out
- 3:30the article on the Blaze and just understand this. We have had for quite
- 3:39some time calls for nationalized healthcare. We had the Obamacare push that came along.
- 3:47We had folks on the right who said, this is not going to
- 3:51be good if we start opening things up and changing our healthcare system for the
- 3:55purposes of pushing it further toward a free healthcare system. I know and care
- 4:03about and love people who are from or live in countries that have had a
- 4:10free, nationalized healthcare system, and it is not what it is hyped up
- 4:15to be. On some occasions, sure, you hear these stories about women
- 4:18who have a baby, and they have a baby, and they say yeah,
- 4:23and it was great. I had the baby and I got my plenty
- 4:27of paid time off because the government forces it, and then we and of
- 4:32course the other taxpayers helped cover that, and then everything was free and it
- 4:38was fantastic, and I didn't have any medical bills. That all sounds great,
- 4:42and then you start going, well, who's paying for all of this?
- 4:46And that, of course is ultimately the first line for it. The
- 4:51second line for all of this comes when you find out that you have some
- 4:57of these countries that say we're not we're going to let somebody in our country.
- 5:00If they have any sort of disability, if they have any sort of
- 5:05condition that could potentially cause them to become a burden on our health system,
- 5:14we can't let you in. I remember a friend once posted a story,
- 5:18and this was somebody who fought hard. I guess continues to but at the
- 5:23time professionally was fighting for rights of people with disabilities. And I remember they
- 5:29shared a story about someone who was trying to get into a country that had
- 5:32one of these nationalized health care plans, and they were a professor, college
- 5:39professor, and the country wanted them to come in and work there, but
- 5:45they had a son who had a medical condition that was going to cause them
- 5:47to be a potential burden on their healthcare system, and they said, I'm
- 5:51sorry, we can't let you in. That's this compassion that we all say,
- 5:59Oh, these far left people, they've got so much compassion and they
- 6:01care so much. And you think back to the Obamacare push Affordable Care Act
- 6:06whatever we're supposed to call it now, I don't know. Folks on the
- 6:11right said this is going to lead to some sort if we go to a
- 6:15nationalized healthcare plan, eventually this is going to lead to where you have government
- 6:19decisions that are getting made based on how much of a burden you could be
- 6:26to our society, how much you could be on other taxpayers, because let's
- 6:32be honest, you pay for it through your taxes. It's not free.
- 6:39If you don't work and you don't earn income, then you're maybe you're getting
- 6:44it for free, but the people who are working are paying for it,
- 6:46whether they're using it or not. And then eventually you get to a point
- 6:50in life at a later age where someone has to make a decision is it
- 6:56worth fixing your knee. You're eighty is it? How much walking are you
- 7:00still going to be doing on that knee? Should we fix the knee?
- 7:03Should we put you on the six month wait list? Do you have extra
- 7:09insurance? Oh? You do? You have extra private insurance? Well,
- 7:12then we can bump you to the front of the list. So how's that
- 7:15really any different? Right, you still have to have that extra health And
- 7:18I know people that live that they get taxed for the free stuff, and
- 7:24then they have to pay extra to make sure that they can still get treatments
- 7:29because maybe their age, maybe their current medical condition. So Canada and the
- 7:35Netherlands, I guess, and we can talk about there's a woman, twenty
- 7:40eight year old Dutch woman and a twenty seven year old Canadian woman both have
- 7:47applied for state facilitated suicide. Neither has a terminal illness, neither has a
- 7:57debilitating physical illness, and they are waiting I guess for that. I guess
- 8:03scheduled originally to happen on February first, but now they're waiting, and they
- 8:09said it may be May. One of these women is Zoriah Turbique. That
- 8:16would be the Dutch woman basically told the Free Press that she wanted to become
- 8:24a psychiatrist and that never happened. Wasn't able to see it through and partly
- 8:31because of depression, autism and an alleged borderline personality disorder, and apparently lives
- 8:43what you would think of as a pretty decent life, nice house, pets
- 8:48a boyfriend, but basically would like to die sitting on her couch at home
- 8:56and they basically said things are never really going to get better, so that's
- 9:01what she wants. It concerns me. Now you can sit here and you
- 9:09can say someone wants to end their life because of depression. That's a concern.
- 9:16We hear that story. That's a that's a very much too common story
- 9:20that we hear when I hear someone has a borderline personality disorder and it's worded
- 9:26as an alleged borderline personality and I don't know if that means they've been medically
- 9:31diagnosed with that or if that means that she's just claimed it. Autism concerns
- 9:39me a lot, a lot. And you think about You've got countries that
- 9:45have said, hey, we have eliminated down syndrome in our country because we
- 9:52are we euthanize, we want to make sure that we don't have people with
- 9:56Down syndrome. What happens if we get to a point where we want to
- 10:01eliminate people that have autism. That's a lot of people. What happens if
- 10:07we say we want to allow people to in their lives because of depression.
- 10:13We're not talking about somebody who's going to be a burden on the healthcare system.
- 10:16It doesn't seem it's just somebody who wants to go. They just want
- 10:22to end their life and be done with it. And one of the reasons
- 10:26given is autism. And this is true I guess of both of these women
- 10:31in this story. And of course you've got a government who says, you
- 10:37know, we're going to look into this, we want to check into it,
- 10:41we want to approve it, and give you that opportunity to do that.
- 10:48This is what a government sees it as. This is a way to
- 10:50get out from under any future health care for this person. Apparently these people
- 10:56aren't contributing to the money. I don't know. The other person doesn't give
- 11:03their name. The Canadian m V is the initials given to this person.
- 11:09That's how they're identified, and it says MV suffers from autism impossible, other
- 11:18undiagnosed maladies that do not satisfy the credibility for the m A I D,
- 11:24which is their I guess life ending the name of their I guess that's what
- 11:31that is. Medical assistance in dying has made But the father who's identified as
- 11:41WV in the story said his daughter's generally healthy, believes that her physical symptoms
- 11:46symptoms to the extent that she has any result from undiagnosed psychological conditions. I
- 11:54think they should concern people, especially during Autism Awareness Month, right it should
- 12:01be something that we're at least aware of. At what point could this become?
- 12:07And I were talking about two countries that have a different healthcare system than
- 12:11we do, that have a different set of rules than we do. But
- 12:15we got people here that want to see this, not specifically this, but
- 12:20they want to see this healthcare change. That's what they want to see for
- 12:24us. The other story I wanted to talk about today. This will be
- 12:28quick, but just be aware. We're six months out from a horrible tragedy
- 12:35that happened in the Chattahoochee Valley area, and we talked about it when it
- 12:41happened. I was very careful and very delicate with it because I think it's
- 12:46very delicate and it deserves delicate coverage. It didn't get delicate coverage, and
- 12:50I think that's part of the problem with all of this. But I tried
- 12:54to give it delicate coverage. And I'm only going to mention it again because
- 12:58it's popped back up again six months later. And that is the death,
- 13:05the tragic death of Bubba Copeland. He was the mayor of Smith's Station.
- 13:11As you may recall, he was the lead pastor at First Baptist Church in
- 13:18Phoenix City, and he was outed by a basically a gossip. To me,
- 13:28it's the equivalent of the old National Inquirer back in the day, whatever
- 13:33that magazine was, the rag was that had the bat Boy eighteen nineteen news
- 13:37is what it called itself. But back in I don't want to go through
- 13:41the whole story too much. But back in October, I guess late October
- 13:46early November is when all this happened. I guess late October. The story
- 13:50came out about a Bubba Copeland dressing as as a woman in the evenings and
- 14:00going on social media, and this particular site that posted this story was pulling
- 14:09a big gotcha story and shared it, and it's a site that I guess
- 14:13the guy who wrote the story was known for writing these story like there was
- 14:22some story about a politician who cheated on his wife and this guy was like,
- 14:26ah, gotcha, and I guess in his own mind felt like,
- 14:31you know, this was something that warranted having a story written about it.
- 14:35And this has been discussed at great length. There's been a lot of conversation
- 14:37about it. I felt like when the story was written, there was no
- 14:43reason, no justifiable reason to write the story at the time, not when
- 14:46it was written. There was no information in this story other than, hey,
- 14:50here's some juicy gossip about a guy who you know, we're going to
- 14:56expose him as some sort of a hypocrite in their minds. A lot of
- 15:01people in the time after the story came out and after ultimately Bubba cope On
- 15:05took his own life just a few days after the story came out, which
- 15:09sadly seemed like where all of us knew it was heading. Everybody who cared
- 15:15about him was checking in on him. I have friends that were very close
- 15:18with him, and I kept telling them check on him. You know,
- 15:22I knew him professionally. I knew him from doing this job and interviewed him,
- 15:28had him on the air, But you know, that's about the extent
- 15:30of it. We knew who each other. Was nothing but positive things that
- 15:35I would say about him from my experience of knowing him. But I didn't
- 15:39know him in a way that I thought I'm gonna call because if a newsguy
- 15:43calls you up, you know, if somebody from a news outlet, I
- 15:46guess it sounds like they're looking for some dirt. Even some of his friends
- 15:50that I reached out to said I don't have anything to tell you about this.
- 15:54I'm like, that's not what I'm calling for. So I still never
- 16:02saw the benefit in the news story. But people said, well, maybe
- 16:07he was doing this, maybe he was doing that. They tried to justify
- 16:11that the story when it was written. Craig Monger was the guy's name who
- 16:15wrote the story, and Craig Monger kind of disappeared from the old interwebs for
- 16:18a little bit after it happened. And understandably, I prayed for Bubba during
- 16:22all of this. I prayed for Craig during all of this. These are
- 16:26horrible things for two people to have had to go through, for people that
- 16:30care about them to have to go through, because ultimately, Craig Monger published
- 16:33a gossip story caused somebody to kill themselves. And that's why you pray for
- 16:41him as well. That's why I do continue to. But I was angry.
- 16:48I wasn't happy with the story was published. There's a lot of things
- 16:52that came out in time after where people say, well, maybe this justifies
- 16:56it, maybe that justifies writing it, But at the time of writing it,
- 16:59there was nothing in it to justify writing it other than it was a
- 17:00gotcha story. Well, now, six months later, Esquire has published a
- 17:07giant, massive Warren Peace Link story about it, with the headline right wing
- 17:15media and the death of an Alabama pastor an American tragedy, laying out this
- 17:21whole story. It's long too, if you want to read it, I
- 17:26don't necessarily recommend it, but if you want to read it, it's going
- 17:27to take you about two and a half weeks long. It's long, but
- 17:33the headline alone tells you everything you need to know about it. It's the
- 17:37right wing media, right, that's what it is. I don't know what
- 17:41you want to call eighteen nineteen news. I don't know what you want to
- 17:45call Craig Monger. I don't know what you want to call this particular outlet,
- 17:48but I can tell you this, a left wing outlet is writing a
- 17:52story blaming the right wing media for what happened. And this is going to
- 17:57be zoom. We'll continue to see this pop up from time to time anytimes.
- 18:03I don't know the timing of this, and they didn't write this article.
- 18:07Mark Warren for Esquire didn't write this article since Sunday, and I can
- 18:12tell you that because he would have been writing NonStop for three and a half
- 18:15weeks to write all the words. At the very least, it's a long
- 18:19article. I was trying to read it and I thought, god'm falling asleep
- 18:22trying to read this thing. But don't be shocked. Bubba Coplan's name and
- 18:32this horrible treatment of the right wing media and the hypocrites in the church is
- 18:40thrust more into the forefront getting closer to the election, because that'll be right
- 18:45about the one year mark, we'll have the anniversary of it, and this
- 18:49will come up again. Then trolls on the internet, or just that Craigmonger
- 18:56is a troll on the internet. That's what he is the article. That's
- 18:59how it was to begin with. I haven't gone back to that site.
- 19:03I have no interest in going back to that site. If he has since
- 19:07written several articles about all these horrible things, I don't see anything else in
- 19:11this article about it. But I can tell you this, the very nature
- 19:15of outing someone having an affair on their wife or the politician, or the
- 19:21very nature of outing Bubba Copeland for what he was doing in the evenings with
- 19:26no actual crime committed, other than, hey, this is something bad.
- 19:33This isn't something that we should condone. This isn't something that we should like.
- 19:38It's not news. It's a troll. It's just like the people who
- 19:41went on and said horrible things about Bubba after. It's like the people who
- 19:45went on and said horrible things about Craig Monger after. Trolling on the internet,
- 19:49sadly, is something that everyone experiences. It's horrible, isn't it.
- 19:56A lot of us have been guilty of doing it, Sadly. I'm one
- 20:00of the first. I go way back in the early days doss based chat
- 20:06rooms. I used to do it. I mean kind of proud of it.
- 20:11Then I'm not really proud of it now, I mean proud of the
- 20:15timing of it. Didn't know what was going to turn into all this,
- 20:21but don't be shocked. And I'm just going to remind everyone Bubba Copeland was
- 20:26conservative, a Republican. Probably would be voting I mean, I can't say,
- 20:30but probably would be voting for Trump in this election. I don't know
- 20:33of any reason to not think that the left wants him to be one of
- 20:37theirs. Democrats of Alabama tried to claim him and jump in and talk about
- 20:41how much they supported him. But that's not what he would have wanted.
- 20:48It's not what he would have wanted, not back in October of last year.
- 20:52That's not what he would have wanted. But it's going to become I
- 20:56think. I don't think this is the last we're going to see of it,
- 21:00this giant article. If you start reading it now, you might finish
- 21:03it by the election. I don't know. Maybe if you have to,
- 21:06really, you know, cut some people out of your life, eliminate a
- 21:10couple of meals. It's long, my gosh, it's a long article,
- 21:15but I just I can't help. But when I saw the article, someone
- 21:21sent it to me and said, hey, this is back and I thought,
- 21:22oh my gosh, here it is. It's back. Six months later
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- 24:56More West Carol Morning Show right after the break. All right, we've
- 25:07talked a lot about ozempic and we govy, two of the medications that have
- 25:12been used as weight loss drugs in spite of the fact that's not what they
- 25:17were made for. They were made to help with folks with diabetes. At
- 25:21least. Ozempic was I assume the same as true off we govy, but
- 25:26folks realized, wait a minute, if you take it, it's going to
- 25:30help suppress appetite. Therefore, let's use it as a weight loss drug.
- 25:37Well, now, apparently for folks that don't want to go the ozempic route,
- 25:41there was a period when it was hard to get it because apparently people
- 25:44were using so much of it for weight loss that people who actually needed the
- 25:48medicine for their diabetes weren't able to get it. Now, apparently there's plenty
- 25:53of it. It's going around, but some folks are saying, well,
- 25:56wait a minute, I don't want to take medicine to lose weight. I'm
- 26:00going to instead use oat zempic, which is the term for taking oats and
- 26:10mixing them with lime juice and water. And consuming it. Some of the
- 26:15users on social media that have been doing oat zempic say they've lost forty pounds
- 26:21in two months with the trig. Experts say nothing unhealthy about the drink,
- 26:26but want people to know that this isn't something that's really a comparison to ozempic
- 26:32or we Govy. Doctor mir Ali says ozimpic is a hormone that affects your
- 26:37brain as well as your gut. It suppresses the appetite for up to a
- 26:41week. When you eat oats, it can help you feel full for a
- 26:45few hours. They're certainly not the same. I think the oats thing though,
- 26:51that's not a new trend now mixing it with these two ingredients lime juice
- 26:56and water. But people were doing the cold oats tre to help them feel
- 27:00full in the morning and kind of get their day going, and really does
- 27:03get things going downstairs as well. I can tell you that I've done the
- 27:10cold oats in the morning. I like the cold oats, especially when you
- 27:11throw some peanut butter in there, but I don't know if that's allowed with
- 27:14oat zembic or not. All right, So there's a developer, real estate
- 27:21developer in Manhattan that's basically taking an old parking structure and turning it into a
- 27:26condominium. The brick building, which is near the water in Greenwich Village is
- 27:33basically it's a parking lot, and there are buyers who have said they are
- 27:37going to jump in, make renovations and turn the units into living quarters inside
- 27:45this garage, and they say about a one hundred million dollars to do that.
- 27:49Developers plan to keep the front to make it look like it's still a
- 27:53garage because they say privacy is important to celebrities who want it to look shit.
- 28:00The remaining penthouse is said to be asking close to eighty five million,
- 28:06according to people familiar with it. So I guess if it looks shabby on
- 28:10the outside and you don't know that there's a bunch of celebrities living in places
- 28:14that people used to park their cars, you wouldn't know. But if you
- 28:18know, you might try to wander into the I don't know. As long
- 28:22as you don't know, I guess it's just kind of camouflage for where there
- 28:26might be celebrities in there. I wonder if there are any celebrities we may
- 28:30know of who want to live in this facility during the pandemic, a lot
- 28:34of people were buying RVs and camper vans because they felt like, hey want
- 28:40to get out on the road, get some fresh air, and the market
- 28:44then was booming. But apparently that trend has cooled quite a bit. According
- 28:48to a report in the Wall Street Journal, RV shipments hit their lowest point
- 28:52in twelve years and twenty twenty three with higher interest rates, people reluctant to
- 28:56make big ticket purchases, and life and traveling get back to normal have all
- 29:02been factors in all of this, so it's interesting, not a surprise,
- 29:07but interesting that it has dropped off that much. Some people feel like they
- 29:14were born under a lucky star, and some people say they were not.
- 29:18There's a new variation of the secret phenomenon from a few decades ago. I
- 29:25guess now lucky Girl syndrome is something that's trending on social media, and the
- 29:30idea is that you can manifest good luck simply by believing it. Basically,
- 29:33tell yourself you're lucky. Believe that you're lucky, and good luck will come
- 29:37to you, So making your own luck. That's an idea I guess that
- 29:44people are trying to put you put it out there, you believe it,
- 29:48maybe it don't happen for you. And finally, this is a nice story.
- 29:52Actress Leah Remini shared on Instagram last week that she had earned her associate's
- 29:57degree from NYU at the age of fifty three. She says, this is
- 30:03Kerrie Heffernan, by the way, on King of Queens. She says,
- 30:06three years ago, I embarked on a terrifying journey becoming a college student at
- 30:08the age of fifty after only having an eighth grade education and spending thirty five
- 30:14years in a totalitarian cult, referencing, of course, her time with Scientology.
- 30:19I desperately wanted a high education, but for many years didn't move forward
- 30:23because I feared I was not smart enough. Even though I had managed to
- 30:26leave Scientology, three decades of brainwashing still gripping my mind. And she says
- 30:33now she would like to pursue her bachelor's degree. That's a nice story.
- 30:37Good for her. That'll do it for this Thursday edition of the show.
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