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Joe Rogan Experience _2307 - Tim Dillon(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hey, Tim Dillon.
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  Speaker 1: How are you? I'm much better now that the ladies
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  Speaker 1: are back from space. Thank you for having me. What
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  Speaker 1: were they up there, 10 minutes? Well, it was very profound.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen Katy Perry talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: but she's basically a guru now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What were her findings? That's my question.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she brought a daisy, which is super important. It
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  Speaker 1: shows you how quick the flight was. The dead daisy
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  Speaker 1: that's like snipped from its life source was still alive
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  Speaker 1: or still vibrant. Yeah. And it's so, it's always. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out daisy. Wow. Look at her nails. So pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Now, so they go up there and they float for
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  Speaker 2: like 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: At least.
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  Speaker 2: And then they come down.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not minimize this. No, I know. It's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Let's celebrate. Female astronauts.
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  Speaker 2: Because they were united.
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  Speaker 1: Because a lot of men astronauts, they have to go
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  Speaker 1: to school. They have to learn how to be a
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  Speaker 1: pilot first. Then they have to join the Air Force
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  Speaker 1: or the Navy.
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  Speaker 2: And then they get appointed by NASA. And then they
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  Speaker 2: go to space. And there has been, that's the other thing,
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  Speaker 2: there has been female astronauts.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not minimize this. Let's not minimize this. I think
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  Speaker 1: there was a bitch stuck on a space station for
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  Speaker 1: a few months.
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  Speaker 2: That's terribly more impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not minimize this. No, the problem with that story
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  Speaker 1: is that she was rescued by a very awful person
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  Speaker 1: who wants to expose fraud and waste.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Did Musk rescue her?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Oh, where's that in the news?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Those fucking people were stuck. The Boeing jet, the skyline,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the fuck it is, the Boeing spaceship wasn't working.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't fix it. Interesting. I didn't even know that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Elon could have rescued them during
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration. They didn't want to because of his
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  Speaker 1: open support for Trump. So they left those people up there. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He's talked about it on my podcast. They left those
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  Speaker 1: people up there. And they're just chilling. No, they're dying.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It's like slow radiation poisoning. It's like getting 10
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  Speaker 2: x-rays a day. And they're just slowly getting sapped of
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  Speaker 2: your life force out there in no gravity. Your bones
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  Speaker 2: are weakening. Did you see that lady's face when she
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  Speaker 2: came back?
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  Speaker 1: She didn't look great.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, something had happened. Like her chin had grown. Her
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  Speaker 2: chin was extended and her hair.
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  Speaker 1: Had all turned gray. She looked like she was sick.
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  Speaker 1: She was sick. Yeah. You're dying up there, man. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I had Commander Chris Hatfield on and he was at
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  Speaker 1: one point in time the longest person that had been
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  Speaker 1: in space from, wasn't he? It was like he was
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  Speaker 1: there for like six months. And he was saying it
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  Speaker 1: was unbelievable how difficult it was to recover once you
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  Speaker 1: get back to Earth. He couldn't walk. It was just
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  Speaker 1: like a total vertigo. His whole body was so not
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  Speaker 1: used to gravity. All of his bones were weak. All
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  Speaker 1: of his muscles were weak.
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  Speaker 2: But these bitches seemed fine, these ladies.
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  Speaker 1: Well, for now. It was quick.
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  Speaker 2: It was not minimized. It was not minimized.
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  Speaker 1: The sacrifice they made for a great nation. It was
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  Speaker 1: a big deal. For the world, in fact. For the world.
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  Speaker 1: They're profoundly different. To show people. They're profoundly different. To
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  Speaker 1: show people.
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  Speaker 2: What's inspiring?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's inspiring.
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  Speaker 2: If a guy who's worth, what, a trillion dollars?
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  Speaker 1: Several billion? A hundred billion? Just imagine the conspiracies if
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  Speaker 1: they didn't make it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Pete, there's already people saying that they faked it,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is silly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I love those people. But it's great. Those are
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  Speaker 1: the people that think space is fake. That's right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But there are already people going, well, they faked it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I hope they fake something better than that.
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  Speaker 1: I hope. I hope.
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  Speaker 2: If they're faking stuff and they probably are faking some stuff, God,
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  Speaker 2: I hope they're faking stuff that's better than that.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the confusion. I think the confusion
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  Speaker 1: is that they essentially got to the threshold of space.
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  Speaker 1: They did not get like way out there where reentry
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  Speaker 1: is very traumatic. And it has like... If you see
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  Speaker 1: like those heat shields that they put all over those
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  Speaker 1: things and if they break off on the reentry, everybody dies.
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  Speaker 1: That's because you're way out there and the amount of
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  Speaker 1: heat that gets generated as you're reentering the atmosphere. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're essentially like on the border of the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see how high did they go up there. They
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  Speaker 1: go above that line. It's called, like, the Kármán line
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  Speaker 1: or something. So the space shuttle goes three hundred miles.
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  Speaker 2: They went a little higher than that rocket man documentary
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  Speaker 2: that guy who shot himself up in a rocket.
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  Speaker 1: They went, like, a few feet higher than that guy. R.I.P.
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  Speaker 2: That guy who drove by his grave on the way
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  Speaker 2: to Vegas when L.A.
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  Speaker 1: Burned down. Are they even, like, technically actually in space?
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  Speaker 3: I think that's where the, like, it floats.
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  Speaker 1: That's the line. I might go there. I might do that.
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  Speaker 1: Do it. I wouldn't go to space base, but I
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  Speaker 1: might do the 80 miles. Do that. So 350 miles
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  Speaker 1: is the highest anyone has ever gone other than the
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  Speaker 1: Apollo astronauts. 62. 62 miles. Okay. 62 miles ain't shit, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I drive that in an hour. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I agree with you. It's not that far.
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  Speaker 1: That's not even here to San Antonio. Yeah. 62 miles
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  Speaker 1: ain't shit, but it is kind of technically space.
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  Speaker 2: So they get up there and they look at the earth?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why everybody's calling bullshit on the outside of
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  Speaker 1: the capsule. Right. That it wasn't completely on fire and destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: It's because they didn't go that high. They didn't go
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  Speaker 1: that high. That's all it is. Right. But they did
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  Speaker 1: go to space technically.
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  Speaker 2: They went to space and they lost gravity.
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  Speaker 1: The funniest thing is they come back and you need
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  Speaker 1: a parachute to land. Right. Like at all the technology
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  Speaker 1: Elon has. Elon is catching rockets with robot arms.
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  Speaker 2: What could go wrong in something like that? Oh, it
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  Speaker 2: could explode on the way up for sure. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: way up is not ensured that those things are definitely
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  Speaker 2: going to hold it together.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the biggest risk. Yeah, you have these cannons
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  Speaker 1: filled with rocket fuel that are burning at like twice the...
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  Speaker 1: What is the temperature of rocket fuel when it's hot?
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  Speaker 1: Is it like... It's like close to the surface of
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  Speaker 1: the sun or some crazy shit. Like what is the,
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  Speaker 1: what's the actual temperature? So everything has to be contained
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  Speaker 1: while you have insane amounts of fuel burning every second.
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  Speaker 1: And huge plumes of flame. Enormous thrust. Right. To escape
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  Speaker 1: Earth's atmosphere.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You're just hoping all those O-rings and all these fucking,
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  Speaker 1: all the shit that blew up with the Challenger. So
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  Speaker 1: it could have blown up. 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean- Musk has openly said some of these are
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  Speaker 1: going to blow up when he's testing them. Right. When
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  Speaker 1: they would blow up, you're like, oh, Elon failed again. Like, no,
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  Speaker 1: we want it to fail because we want to find
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  Speaker 1: out what is the threshold. There's only one way to
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  Speaker 1: find out.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if all of them were– you think they
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  Speaker 2: were like prepared to die? No.
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  Speaker 1: Katy Perry was prepared to die. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In her eyes, something's off. She looked like a soldier.
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  Speaker 2: Something's off with her.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. It's good. What about the hatch, though?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't that kind of a sketch?
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  Speaker 2: She has a Muhammad Adda look to her.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the problem is that the hatch is
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  Speaker 1: not a real hatch like a spaceship. Because it's not
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  Speaker 1: really going to space.
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  Speaker 2: There's no captain. There's no pilot.
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  Speaker 1: Right. There's nobody going... Exact the mundo. All the above.
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  Speaker 1: So it's... Most hatches in that regard... They open outwardly
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  Speaker 1: so that the pressure of space travel, like when you're
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  Speaker 1: shooting that fucking rocket up insane amounts of gravity, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make the door hinges fail and it collapses in on
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  Speaker 1: itself and everybody dies. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So they have to open outward. Right. Right. So the
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  Speaker 1: pressure would keep them shut. So generally like there's like
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  Speaker 1: a seal and it's really kind of crazy. Like I
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  Speaker 1: have a friend of mine, very wealthy businessman who brings
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  Speaker 1: me over his house the other days. He goes, I
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  Speaker 1: want to show you something. And he shows me this diagram.
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  Speaker 1: He said, this is from the 1950s. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the blueprint for the recreation UFO that they made when
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  Speaker 1: they tried to back engineer the one that they found
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  Speaker 1: at Roswell. And this was a diagram.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy. And it had a crank handle like a submarine door.
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  Speaker 2: And they were trying to replicate a craft that had landed, crashed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He thinks they did. Wow. He doesn't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a try. He said, this is the blueprint because it
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  Speaker 1: had the actual, by the way, the exact generator in
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  Speaker 1: the center of it that Bob Lazar described in 1989
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  Speaker 1: when he worked at Area S4.
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  Speaker 2: What layer of the government do you think is working
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  Speaker 2: on projects like that?
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  Speaker 1: Like, is it all the DARPA people? I think it's
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  Speaker 1: people that are completely disconnected from congressmen, senators, presidents. It's
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  Speaker 1: all deep state.
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  Speaker 2: They have to be like, they probably belong to an
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  Speaker 2: agency without a name.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's probably a bunch of those. And when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to this kind of stuff, like we already know
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  Speaker 1: now because of Doge that there was money that was
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  Speaker 1: going with no receipts, billions and billions of dollars that
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  Speaker 1: was just flying out with no receipts. They have no
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  Speaker 1: idea where it went. And Elon openly said, if this was,
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  Speaker 1: he goes, if this was a public company, it would
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  Speaker 1: be delisted. And the people who ran it would go
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  Speaker 1: to prison. But because it's the government, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we did. We just. They have no receipts. Do you think.
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  Speaker 1: That could be going to it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they'll bring charges against anyone for fraud?
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  Speaker 1: That's the worry about disclosure.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's what.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what's holding it back.
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  Speaker 2: I think people need concrete stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You want to see concrete? Let's hear Katy Perry
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  Speaker 1: talk about. Right. Going to space. I'm going to send
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  Speaker 1: you one. I said to you a few this morning.
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  Speaker 1: I said, let's discuss. I saw her. I saw her.
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  Speaker 2: I chatted about it on my show. I saw her
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  Speaker 2: say something about we weren't. taking space. We're making space.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one I want to say.
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  Speaker 2: Which I thought was an interesting scientific.
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  Speaker 1: It's not this one? No, no, no. I got another one.
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  Speaker 1: I got some better ones.
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  Speaker 2: What is funny is immediately after they landed.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, that one's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: It is funny to do something like this and then
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  Speaker 2: everyone hates you. Like everyone hates that.
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  Speaker 1: They shouldn't hate her. Oh, no, that's not it, Jamie.
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  Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. I have so many of them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that one has the making space. Try
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  Speaker 1: this one. It's so fun. Why is it so fun
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  Speaker 1: when people get pretentious? I guess because you're terrified that
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  Speaker 1: you would ever do it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I also think it's fun to see
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  Speaker 2: somebody who has no self-awareness.
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  Speaker 1: They're always the most fun.
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  Speaker 2: I will never be the same.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you get up there and you see
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  Speaker 1: the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills
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  Speaker 1: the screen and it's not just your window. It's like
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  Speaker 1: everybody's window and there's no boundaries. There's no border. There's
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  Speaker 1: just earth. And it just fills the screen.
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  Speaker 2: I like how it says astronaut.
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  Speaker 1: And you see the earth and it's so beautiful and
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  Speaker 1: it just fills the screen. Is it what you expected? No. No. Better.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can describe it because, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I was saying?
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  Speaker 2: It was like quiet, but then also really alive.
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  Speaker 1: And you look at it and you're like, we're all
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  Speaker 1: in this together.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned prior to going up, you said that you
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  Speaker 2: needed to go to space to heal.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're only a few minutes removed from.
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  Speaker 2: This incredible experience.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel healed?
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  Speaker 2: Now, you are officially an astronaut.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. How do you feel? I feel
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  Speaker 1: super connected to love. Goodness. I will never be the same.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you get up there.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's it. That's it. There's another one. There's another one.
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  Speaker 1: She said making space. But how great is it that
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  Speaker 1: they just get called astronauts now?
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  Speaker 2: It's funny to hear the richest guy in the world's
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  Speaker 2: wife go, we're all in it together.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, boy. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: people feel that. Yeah we're definitely not all in it
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  Speaker 1: with you. I don't feel like we're all in it
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  Speaker 1: together with you.
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  Speaker 2: Can we get on your jet?
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  Speaker 1: How in it together are we? Yeah, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: It feels like you hand-selected a couple of friends to
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  Speaker 2: go do this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it should have been a lottery system like
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  Speaker 2: Willy Wonka where just seven random people should have been
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  Speaker 2: able to go in this.
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  Speaker 1: I would do it just to change my... That would
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  Speaker 1: be fun. That would be good. Just seven random people.
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  Speaker 1: Just pull out some guy who's not supposed to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Just a cashier at HEB, someone from MS-13.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what I was thinking. Get him in.
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  Speaker 2: Someone from Trendiagua and Lauren Sanchez and Gayle King and.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you see they released the footage, dash cam footage
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  Speaker 1: or police footage of the guy who they're saying was
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  Speaker 1: just a father. The Maryland father. Yeah, as he got
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: pulled over with eight undocumented people in his truck. They
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: were all supposedly staying at his house. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see that, but.
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  Speaker 1: The wife had a restraining order against him, a protection order.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that there was a restraining order. I saw
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  Speaker 2: that he was hanging out with two guys that were
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  Speaker 2: in MS-13.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they released the... Yeah, he's... He's definitely sketchy.
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  Speaker 2: They have made a few mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: He's not this Maryland father. No. The guy that scares
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  Speaker 1: me is the hairdresser.
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  Speaker 2: The gay hairstylist?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know what's going on with that.
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  Speaker 1: Or there's a guy with a tattoo. That's him. The
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  Speaker 1: hairdresser has a mom and dad. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: There was a guy with an autism awareness tattoo, and
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  Speaker 2: they thought it was like an MS-13 tattoo, but it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look like an MS-13 tattoo.
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  Speaker 1: It's a literal. The problem is everybody's a liar. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know. So the liberals are liars and the Republicans
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  Speaker 1: are liars. Everyone's lying. They're all lying. And if they
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  Speaker 1: did ship some— Ironically, the only people I trust are MS-13.
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  Speaker 1: And podcasters. Because they'll tell you. And podcasters.
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  Speaker 2: Podcasters and MS-13. That's all I trust. I would love
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  Speaker 2: if you just had MS-13 on. Just three guys with tattoos. Because,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, there would be no outrage. That's what's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: If you had three MS-13 gang members— not one person
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  Speaker 2: would go, why did he have them on?
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  Speaker 1: Why did he platform them? Nobody would. But if I
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  Speaker 1: have Ian Carroll on.
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  Speaker 2: If you have anyone else on, it'll be a horrible thing.
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  Speaker 2: But if it was three guys, MS-13 with head-to-toe tattoos,
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  Speaker 2: who admitted to killing multiple people, and you said, now
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  Speaker 2: tell me about what it's like to grow up in
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  Speaker 2: San Pedro Sula or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And it would be okay. Well, the reason why that's
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  Speaker 1: good is because I think it's important to learn about
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  Speaker 1: other cultures.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a thousand percent. And they should have their chance
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  Speaker 2: to talk.
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  Speaker 1: And what's not cool is talking about maybe Israel did
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  Speaker 1: something wrong. You should really not do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's criminal of you to even discuss anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, apparently I've been co-opted by what's called the woke right.
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  Speaker 1: The woke right. That's what I heard. There's a woke
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  Speaker 1: right now? Yes. Fascinating. They're co-opting. I still haven't accepted
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I've left the left.
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  Speaker 2: I did a CNN interview for an hour because I'm
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  Speaker 2: promoting my special.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Did you really? Yeah. Who did you
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  Speaker 1: talk to? This girl, Elle Reeves. Was she cool? Elle,
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  Speaker 1: she was cool.
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  Speaker 2: She does all the, you know, when you see the
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Vice documentaries where she talks to the Nazis and the incels?
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus. She does that? It was that chick. And
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: they sent her in. Oh, that's a good move for them.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is hilarious.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there and she sits down. She's like,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: are there any left-wing comedians? And I named 10 of them.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: that are all in arenas.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: And she goes, oh.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Because their whole thing now is that podcasters are the
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: most powerful people in the world. And she goes, do
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you think your friends are the new establishment? I said, well,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: there's 22 intelligence agencies and entire legacy media. There's lots
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: of Ivy League schools.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: There's this, there's that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Do I think Theo Vaughn's the new establishment?
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: No.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think you ran a really
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: unpopular candidate. I don't think Americans like child sex changes.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they want an open border. And
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I think if you, you know, co-opted some of those issues,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you might have won. They said to me at CNN,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: they're like, we're editing the interview. I said, put the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: hour out. I sat there for an hour and we
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: had a nice conversation. But, you know, we talked for
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: one hour and I was like, put it out. I'm like,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I understand if you can't put it out. And then
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: she goes like this. She goes, I can't believe you'd
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: show up. People have said that. They can't come on
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: here because Joe Rogan would get mad at them. I said,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: that's absolutely ridiculous.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Why would I care? I said, he doesn't care.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: He would never care.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I said. Oh, that's so silly.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: It's the silliest thing ever.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: They think we're at war.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I just said, put out the thing. Put out the
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: hour online. If you can only put out a few
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: minutes on network, fine. But it's wrong to have someone
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: come in and talk for an hour.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Right. And then not. And then use three minutes. And
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: then use five minutes.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: It's fucked up. How much did they use? We don't
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: know yet. They haven't put it out. And did they
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: say we can't put the whole hour out?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I texted this journalist and she texted me. She goes,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I'm pushing for like a long form release. I go, yeah, man,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: just put out the interview.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Also, do you guys want ratings or no? Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We had a conversation about all these things you guys
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You guys have a website. Then what are we doing?
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Don't you have a YouTube page? Does the CNN have
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: a YouTube page?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I go, she goes, she goes, what
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: do you think that Joe Rogan, why is it so popular?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I go, well, one of the reasons is he doesn't
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: edit people.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They don't.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: They're not edited. They come on, they say what they
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: want to say, and there's no editing. So what's weird
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: about those institutions is they will sit you down for
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: an hour and then, I guess, cherry pick what they
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: think their audience wants to see.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Well, they just want what they think is going to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: grab the most ratings and is not going to make
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: them look stupid. So if you're mocking them openly. Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Well, she didn't know when she said that. She goes,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: comedy is right wing. Now I go, she goes, name
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: left of center comedians. I named literally eight of them,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and I said they all are in arenas.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I go, what are you talking about? It's so dumb.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? It's so dumb.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're saying that comedy is— what?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: By the way, I used to be left of center
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: according to the metrics of 2015.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I said there's a lot of Joe's positions, if you
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: look at them, that are left of center positions. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of my positions or anyone's positions. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: said there's nobody that you can easily put in a box.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But they want you to be in that box. Well,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: they're silly. And they also want me to be an
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: enemy of CNN. I don't give a fuck. You don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: care who cares. By the way, I hope CNN corrects
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: course and does real news.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And just concentrates on the news and all this fucking.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want editorial comments from morons. Right. So when
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you're force feeding me. Don Lemon's opinion on how the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: world should be. Right. And how, you know, everyone should
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be shamed if they don't get vaccinated. Right. You're force-feeding
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: me morons. Like, no matter— Of course your ratings plummeted. Yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Of course. And you guys lied about so many fucking
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: things and never corrected yourselves. Is there an.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Arm of the Democratic National Committee and there an arm
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of that party?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, whether they are forced to be or whether
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: they choose to be because they identify with being Democrat
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and they want to skew things completely towards the left.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the answer to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that is.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: All of the old Bush era neoconservative people who pushed
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Patriot Act
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and Guantanamo Bay and all of this stuff all find
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: homes usually on MSNBC or CNN advocating for war rights.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ron. Yes.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Oh an escalation in Ukraine They always so it's kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: of an establishment doesn't seem to met. They don't really
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: care about party, right?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, they're doing better now though. I mean
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: this when they have Scott Jennings.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: On he's great Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of conversations you need completely ridiculous people
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: are out of your fuck. I'm not minds versus Scott
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Jennings Like those are great.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: You need to have some fun.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you these Ridiculous woke anchors look retarded. Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and they should.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: There are in the world There are good principled arguments
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that against right-wing things. Yes, you just can't have people
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: who are completely out of it make them.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly. After the election, one of my favorite ones,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: was it CNBC or CNN? I forget what it was.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: This guy was talking about this whole right-wing podcast ecosystem
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that's incredibly well-funded and organized. What are you talking about?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: You could literally go to the roots of how it
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: all started. You could see every one of us doing
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: our first podcast with a fucking webcam. There's no funding
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: for this. What are we talking about? What are we saying?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Even the idea that we're all organized together or that
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like I would want to prevent people from going on CNN.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just silly.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I could not care less.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Because that's the way they operate. You always usually like
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of times you end up accusing people of
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: something you're doing.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: So you because you are familiar with that. So they're like, well,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we have a top down corporate oligarchy telling us what
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to do. Is that the way it works with you? No,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan doesn't email people at the beginning of the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: week and go, hey guys, this is the most insane
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: thing ever.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: But not only that, I want them to do well.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I really don't care. They obviously don't want me to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: do well. But I don't care. Look, if they turned
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: it around and CNN became great, I'd watch it all
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the time. It used to be great. It used to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: have parts unknown on it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: The new thing they're doing, this is a very interesting
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: thing that's happening. If somebody says something that they don't
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like and they can't immediately dismiss it, They go, but
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the fans of that thing are bad people. This is
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: an interesting attack point. They go, but somebody with a
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: massive audience, if they find a sliver of that audience
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to be objectionable in any way, they then go, well,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the fans of that type of questioning are anti-Semitic or
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: racist or something. And they don't deal with the actual...
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: facts or the actual line of argumentation.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just a sneaky debate tactic. Right. When you're
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: dealing with, I have 19 million YouTube subscribers. How can
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you nail that down to the fans? Right. You don't know.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You're just talking out of your ass. This is a non-argument.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It's a stupid point. And by the way, when you're
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: talking about actual comments, we've already established that I don't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: know what the number is, but there's a huge number
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of people that are commenting that aren't even people. They're bots.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They're state-sponsored bots. They could be from Ukraine. They could
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: be from America. They could be from Russia. They could
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: be from Israel.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And I want more of them.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: So if they're a state-sponsored bot that can jack my
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: ratings up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: They can.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: If they want to come over to me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Do you have anything nice to say about Israel? Any Ukraine.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the money. I texted Barry Weiss. I go,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: here's the way this game works. I get a little
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: bit of money first. Not I go on and defend
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell you people want to do. I'm not
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: going to get my beak wet.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: If you and I go to Israel, will you slap
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: on the yarmulke? Absolutely. Absolutely. We kiss the wall? Absolutely. Oh, yeah, sure.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: And my film is greenlit when?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Do you have to kiss the wall?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know anything. Is that the wailing wall?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but Mike Huckabee's over there like a
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: good Christian. Oh, well, he loves it over there. Because
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it's Easter Sunday. He loves it over there.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Because the fundamentalist Christians go hard with the Israel thing.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: They're like, let's go. They think Jesus is coming back
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to that spot. Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: What's very interesting is if Israel said to a fundamentalist Christian,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: if Netanyahu called Mike Huckabee and said, we're going to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: have to nuke Iran, he'd go, let's do it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That's what Jesus wants. Let's do it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's what Jesus would want, a nuclear war. So that's
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: where we've gotten. Jesus wants us to use the nukes.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Where we have fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims on the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: other side and everybody's playing this weird game.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there he is. Boy, he looks old. Jesus.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: This is just hilarious if this is the freeze frame
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: from the episode that we released.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: These guys stop dying their hair at some point in
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: time and just say, oh, fuck it. You know, like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Stallone did? The best hat they have is the Shrimel.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: They wear it in Brooklyn.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: It's that big furry Russian hat.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that hat.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That hat looks sick.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: That is a sick hat.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It looks like something out of Game of Thrones.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a hat. Like, I don't give a fuck
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what you think. Doesn't matter. I'm a member of the tribe, bitch.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I got strings hanging from my belt. I got a...
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm rocking a... I got a hat. A bear
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: dick hat. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty sick hat. Yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I like that hat.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I think people can't get past the fact that, like.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just sick. Yeah, look at that hat.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: That hat is the shit. What's that made out of?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Let's answer the question. Why do Orthodox Jewish men, where's
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Ari when you need him? That's a great point. Ari
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: never had to wear one of those hats, though. No,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but he'd look good. Yeah. I got a ton of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: hats from different UFC fighters.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: From, like, Dagestan and from Kazakhstan. I got a cool
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Kazakhstan hat from Shavkat Ramakram. It's a sick hat. That
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: is pretty dope. It's an objectively sick hat. Why don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: they wear it, Jamie? There was an article that just
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: said it before that. The fur one. If you go back,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: upper left corner. Upper left corner? Yeah. Jew in the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: City is the name of the website. God, I hope
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a Jewish person is running that website. Otherwise, they're going
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: to get assassinated. The fur hat is known by the
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yiddish name... How do you say that? Shraimo? Shraimo. Shraimo. Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: The Shraimo was adopted by Eastern European Jewish communities in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the 18th century and coincided with the rise of Hasidic Judaism. Technically...
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: A Schreimel is one particular style of hat. There are others.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: One that might be familiar on site is the Spodek. Oh,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you fucking pop-up ad, cocksucker. Enter your email. Which is
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: taller and more cylindrical than a Schreimel. A Spodek is
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a style generally favored by a Hasidic sex of Polish descent.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: To the casual observer, however, they're all Schreimels. Schreimels made
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: from a large piece of velvet surrounded by fur. Fur
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: usually comes from the tips of the tails of sable.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Martins or Fox. Nice. Synthetic strimals do exist. They're more
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: common in Israel than elsewhere. Interesting. Strimal can cost thousands
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of dollars, so it's not uncommon for a Hasidic man
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: to own a second, cheaper strimal so that his main
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: strimal would not be battered by the elements. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: It's a cool hat. Let everybody know you're part of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the tribe. It's a fun hat. Maybe comedians need a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: thing that we wear. A hat? Yeah, like a thing
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that lets us know we don't give a fuck. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I like that Kanye West black Klan suit.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's dope. How about his giant swastika in diamonds? Have
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you seen that? What's funny is a jeweler made that. Oh, yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And a Jewish jeweler. Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: One fat Israeli Jewish guy made that. Significant markup.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, of course.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I've got to give you a swastika.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I would. I would. It's only fair. Yeah, you need
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a tax.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's only fair.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: If you want a Jewish man to make a swastika,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you've got to pay extra.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: People got to separate, you know, and I think this
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: is not, I think people got to separate like governments
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: from people, intelligence agencies from people. I think that's the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: whole thing.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I think people are losing the ability to do that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: in this case, right?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Because people, when you criticize Israel, you criticize something that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: may or may not have been done by a government
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: or an intelligence agency, you're not criticizing people. You're criticizing
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a group of people making decisions. I don't think America
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: always does things that are in the best interest of
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the American people.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, this is the problem with when everybody sort
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: of picks sides during the COVID thing, whether or not
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: we should trust the vaccine companies. Because like you did
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it because you're on the left and the people on
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the right were the ones who didn't want to take it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: So instead of just looking at it objectively, the people
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: on the left are like everybody who doesn't agree is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a science denier. And it got like really kooky because
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it got ideological. And as soon as it's ideological, you
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: can fucking justify anything. This is how. How Jewish Americans
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: are justifying, well, Hamas uses people as human shields. They'll
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: say things like that. It's a way you can justify
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: mass murder. It's a way you can justify anything, anything.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: As long as the tribe on your side, whatever your
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: clan is, you can justify things. And so people stop thinking.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: They stop thinking and they just think completely along ideological lines.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It's frustrating as fuck.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It is. And passionately.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Very passionately. They're right. You're wrong. No one is
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: ever questioning anything. No. Why would they question science?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: No one goes, wait a minute. Like, I think it's
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: healthy to every now and then go, maybe I'm wrong.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There was just something that got released today that showed,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they just released today that showed that COVID-19 definitively came
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: from that lab.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent. 100% proof it came from that lab. I
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: read it, a little bit of it on the way here.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's fucking nuts. Yeah. It's nuts, man. It's nuts.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: These fucking people, they just got roped into this.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Group of criminals. And it was.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: A completely man-made disease. 100%. And they knew that from
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the moment it happened. It leaked. The moment it happened.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: They know. And they just lied. And Fauci is just
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: out there walking around.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting case when someone like that in that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: position repeatedly lied- To people about the.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Origins of that. Yeah. And is allowed to just be free.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And faces zero consequences.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they were trying to put Trump in jail because he.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Inflated the price of a condo.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Would you see what they. He got an appraisal
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that was higher and then they lied. Well, they're there
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: lies horseshit But he's not about it Letitia James is
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: now trouble for the exact same shit. Really? You didn't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: see that that makes sense They're investigating her because she
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: allegedly according to Megyn Kelly who I trust implicitly Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: allegedly went and got mortgages with her father Listing them
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: as husband and wife. Yeah, and On buildings. Right. Multiple times.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And then also lied about the amount of bedrooms that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: were in a place. Right. Because if it's four bedrooms,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you get one tax rate. If it's five, it's more.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So she lied. It was a five and she said
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it was a four. Right.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Well, this is what they all do. So I think
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: really the funny thing about all the cases that they
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: brought against Trump, a lot of those cases were rooted
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: in just politicized version of something that's pretty standard that
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of people have done.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they always overvalue their properties.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Always overvalue properties. And people get away with it. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it's not, you know.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: It's not a crime. But here's the thing about the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Trump thing is that all the people had been paid.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So not only was it profitable for the banks, he
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: paid everything on time. The loan, there was no criminal.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Like there's no crime. No one got victimized. Nothing happened. Right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: They profited. Right. And then this crazy lady with a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: terrible past thought that she was going to be able
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to pull this off because she was on the team
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that she thought was going to win. Like, talk about
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: putting all your eggs in one basket. Like, they've got
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a bunch of morons to sign in on these things.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It feels like you have.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: We're in some kind of cold war between two factions
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in American politics that are using courts and lawyers to
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: go at each other.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's not. hot war.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: People aren't fighting in the streets, but it does seem
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: to be these parties seem to no longer view each
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: other as different sides of the same coin. There seems
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to be, especially when it comes to Trump, it seems
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to be like they cannot, you know, see him as
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: anything other than an existential threat that has to be
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: vanquished by At any cost.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Right. And the problem with that is when you deny
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: good things and only highlight bad things that everybody knows it. Well,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: now you're playing a game and your game is I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: never tell the truth. I tell you parts of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: truth that I like. Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And you got to win that game.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: If you're playing that game, you got to win.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you do all these things, they have to work.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And if Trump gets in office, even after he did
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: all these things, it's a problem. You're fucked.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Then it's a problem. It's like with JFK, they got him.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Obviously not good, but they got him. And then that
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: slammed the door shut. And then all their people came
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: in and kept a cover up going on.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I wish I really understood all this stuff that we
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: talk about. Yeah. Because there's an argument that we haven't
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: had a real president since JFK got shot.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: That's probably a good argument. And there's maybe arguments that
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: we actually... didn't have real presence prior to JFK.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, what do you think is happening now, then?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think that... I think you have these guys, right?
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: See, these guys that go into the CIA, they learn
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: all about these underground groups. They have all of these
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: different relationships all over the world, right? Weapons, drug running, weapons...
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: all of these different terrorist groups, crime syndicates. Their job
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is to know information about every government, all of the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: separatist groups that could potentially take over and become the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: next government.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: They have all of these connections.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And then they either leave the CIA, they retire, or
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: supposedly it never occurs to any of them to make
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: a buck.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That's the real question, right?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It never occurs to any of these people that there
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: might be a great way to make a buck working
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: with some of these people outside of Congress, the White House,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: all of that. That's, as it's been explained to me
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: by pretty smart people, that's what you have. You have
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a rogue element of people in those agencies that have
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: massive amounts of money. and they're very well connected, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: they're running weapons, and the president has no idea what's
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: going on. And Congress has no idea what's going on.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: They're not briefing a teacher from Georgia who got elected
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: because he promised he was going to build a fucking
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: shopping mall in a suburb of Atlanta about what they're.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Doing in Syria.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: They're not briefing these people. There's nothing democratic about what's happening.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And so then you think to yourself, you're like, well,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: how do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: How do we make sure everyone keeps.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Their mouth shut? Cha-ching.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Then we go, not only money, but that's when we
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: bring in Ghislaine Maxwell. That's when we bring in Jeffrey Epstein, right?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: That's when we bring in people who go, let's all
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: have fun. We've got a great weekend getaway planned. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: then we can all be on camera doing something that
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: would get us thrown in jail, have people rightly disgusted
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and want to kill us. And the worst things ever
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: are now on camera somewhere. Those tapes are somewhere. Now
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: everybody is completely incapable of ever coming out and saying
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: what's going on. And, you know, and then those people
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: are running a parallel government. It's a parallel command structure.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: And that's a huge problem.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: And it was essentially completely in control for four years.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Probably for more than four. But for the last four,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: That's the best example we've ever had of that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: That guy's never really running things.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: There's no way they let him.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: And it's probably still in control to a certain degree
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: now because it's very hard to... When you have something
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like that happening, it is very difficult to completely... Shut
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Well, here's a perfect example that we know it's definitely
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: running things because Trump is still trying to figure out
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: why he got shot. He was like, I want more information.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: There's no information coming to him. There's not going to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: be information. There's not going to be information. That's a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: crazy story. You should try to connect. If it's not
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: America that did it, if it's not us, it's not
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: intelligence agencies that did it, then it means a foreign
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: government that hijacked this kid's brain. And got him to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: climb on top of that roof. Like somebody tried to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: get someone to assassinate a guy who was running for president.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And no one seems to be interested in finding who
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: that person or that group who influenced this kid is.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: So many of these ex-intelligence chiefs pop up all over
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: They pop up in Dubai. They pop up on. MSNBC.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: They love traveling. They're having meetings with people. They're all
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: over the place.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: They love people. They love people.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: They love cultures. They love meeting different cultures.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the food's great.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: And supposedly I heard from someone who's, again, smart and
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I consider trustworthy that there's actually large sectors of the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: global economy that are moved more in this direction than
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you'd think. There are tentacles into very large investment banks
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and private equity companies That a lot.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Of these guys have. Let's put it that way.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Obviously, it's not a shocking thing.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Why would the government let a private equity company operate
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: with impunity? Right. Especially if they're controlling regulations and they're like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: let's work together.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: There doesn't seem to be a good answer to any
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: of this. That becomes the real issue.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: You ever get invited to these like fucking Illuminati events?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: conferences or any of these crazy things?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: No, they wanted me to do stand-up at one conference
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't like an Illuminati kind of thing. It
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: was like a, I don't know, it was like some
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: type of like low-grade Illuminati.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how they start.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Like kind of faux Illuminati.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: That's like the minor leagues. Yeah. And then eventually you
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming. Well,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that sounds nice. It actually does sound nice. Maybe.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: No, I think that like it does seem weird that
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of once you get to a certain level
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: of people take an interest in you that never were
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: interested you know for.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Sure for sure yeah people are interested welcome to my
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: world yeah it is strange that people seem to care
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: about you um or what you're saying or people going
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: i think you your read on that is.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Wrong and you're like why do you care what it
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: is i'm a fucking guy with a talk you know
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: microphone once or twice a week Yeah, but.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: They don't like that. They don't like people having influence
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: that haven't been sanctioned. They don't like that. Yeah, they
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: want all influence to be top-down, all influence to be
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a part of a giant corporation. Yeah. That's what they want.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: They don't want influence to be just regular people. Regular
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: people are fringe. They're far this or far that. They're problematic.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: They spew misinformation. There's no one who spews more misinformation
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: than CNN. They spew a lot. How many times you guys,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just what you guys did over COVID, if you were
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a podcaster, you'd be shut down. Like if the podcasters
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: were the one telling everybody to get vaxxed, you get it,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you won't spread it, you won't this, you won't that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: There's no side effects. If podcasters are saying that, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the establishment news was saying, hold on, this is an
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: experimental vaccine. We should not be asking women who are
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: pregnant to take this. We should be not asking kids
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: who are in no danger to take this. We do
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: not know the long-term consequences. If podcasters were saying that
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You know, podcasters were on the government side instead of CNN.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: If CNN was the wise ones that told everybody to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: be cautious, they would want us prosecuted. They would be
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: going after us for all the side effects that people
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: are experiencing. You have blood on your hands. You're responsible
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: for strokes and heart attacks and myocarditis and all sorts
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of autoimmune issues.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you also have to think about how much easier
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: it is for, let's say, an intelligence community to manipulate
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: them than it is to come in here like a,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: An intelligence community is not going to.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Go, all right, let's find. All they have to do
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: is bring me to the UFOs. No, no, no. That's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: all I ask. For sure. And I'm on the agenda.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You keep telling them that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: That's all you have to do. What do you want
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: me to do? It's very easy. We're going to go
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to war with Kosovo?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I don't even know where Kosovo is.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: On a map. But if you tell me where the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: UFOs are, I'll have a guy in here that explains
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: why it's super important. But it is funny.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: It's like what they'd have to do is pick somebody,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: have them become a comedian, start a podcast, get an audit.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Like it is difficult, right? Whereas if you work at
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: a media company. It's very easy to just some new
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: guys there.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Who's this? Right, right, right. Oh, you know what
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, that's Mike. Somebody just shows up. Hey,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it's Suzanne.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Suzanne.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Run everything by Suzanne. Hey, how does this guy Bob Woodward? Right.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: How does he get the most important? He just, this
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: is his first case. Lucky guy. He gets Watergate. Lucky guy.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. What did he do for Navy Intelligence? Right.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Lucky guy.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: That Watergate thing is so funny.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: But I've been here for 30 years, Mike. Yeah, I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten anything. Shut the fuck up. Bob's taking this case.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Bob's taking down Nixon, who keeps asking questions about what
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: happened to Kennedy.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Did you see when Bill Murray was here? I did, yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Did you see the thing that he said about Wired,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the book? Yeah. Wait, which one? Wired is the book
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: on John Belushi. He said, I read the first five
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: pages and I was like, oh my God. They set
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: up Nixon. Oh, that's hilarious. They framed Nixon. That's so funny.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That's what he said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, if
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: this is what they say, this is what the same
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: guy said about John Belushi, which is 100% not true.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Do you know John Belushi was a lightweight? Right. He
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: would drink a couple of beers and he'd be fucked up. Right.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: He didn't have tolerance. He wasn't this maniacal, coaxing. It
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: was all lies.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: They don't care at all about getting any accurate information.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: That time that he died? Yeah. It was probably the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: first time he ever did a speedball, according to Bill Murray. Wow.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And Bill Murray was one of his best friends. Bill
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Murray knew. Bill Murray was like, I've known this guy
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: most of my life. And then he goes, they framed Nixon. Right.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And then I told him the whole story that Tucker
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Carlson had told me. Yeah.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Which I was like, what? It was all FBI agents.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: The whole thing was a complete sting. It was a
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: sloppy burglary. where they wanted to get caught. They traced
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: it back to Nixon because Nixon was doing things they hated.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing that got Nixon on. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if you know, but what they said to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Nixon is they told, if Nixon was not guilty of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the crime, but they told Nixon about the crime and
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: then he helped them cover it up. That's how they
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: got him.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: But I mean, what is he going to do? Of course.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: He thinks this is on the legit and you come
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to him with the crime. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. Well,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: don't fucking tell anybody, Tim. Jesus Christ, Tim. What did
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you do? You bugged Cap City? Yeah. Yeah. They had
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to get rid of him. This is what we're going
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to do. We're going to throw our phones in the river.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Here's what happens now. How do we get out of this?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Where'd you put the bugs? Can we break in and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: take the bugs back?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: That's so funny.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: They'd be so flattered if we bugged Cap City. That's awesome.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Somebody told me last night that they hate us. I'm like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: how do you hate me? I love you. I used
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: to love the old Cap City. If you got headlight,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Cap City. If you've got headliners and you need them,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I'll promote it. I'll promote it on Twitter. Yeah. And
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: same thing with Moon Tower. They're mad at me too
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have them at the club. I'm happy
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to help you. I'm happy to help you. I just
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: don't want you to book my club. Of course. That's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: all it is. My club is sold out every night. Yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And it's guys like you and Shane and Ari and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: all these. I don't want anybody else booking it. It
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I don't support your cause.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I just don't want you coming into my establishment. That's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: all it is. I want everybody to do well. There's
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: five comedy clubs on my street. What you've done, I.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Think, ultimately is good for the town. you bring people
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: into the town.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: The problem is when people used to be in control
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of comedy in the town and then all of a
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: sudden they're not. And they used to be like the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: person that people would go to and now they're insignificant. Right.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people struggle with that,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: the idea of that, that they're losing control. I think
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that seems to be the most, the angriest I've seen
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: people online since the election that have railed against podcasts
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: and they've railed against They seem to be angry that
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: they no longer have a monopoly on what people can hear.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And they still continue to lie and misrepresent people
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: that do podcasts or people that have a different opinion say.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: And that's where it gets really stupid. You know, like
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: they keep saying that, you know, I had that Daryl
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Cooper guy on that I'm bring on a Nazi apologist
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and a Holocaust denier. Like that is neither of those
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: things are true. Yeah. It's not true. And the guy
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't just talk about that. By the way, his, his
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: stuff about Jim Jones is fucking sensational. You know, Jim
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Jones was like a civil rights leader. Yeah. Jim Jones
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: had an interracial child. I didn't know anything. Yeah. Jim
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Jones was like, he would, he had adopted black child
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that he would take to school and Everybody would be
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: fucking furious at him in the town. Yeah. And he
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: was like, he was a legitimate Christian, like a real,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christian.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: One of the big things in America.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. The meth got him. Yes.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Listen, there are a lot of people questioning World War
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: II for not good reasons, of course.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: It's like people that bring up the age of consent.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: You go, wait a minute. Hey. What's going on? What
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: are you doing? They're appealing.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: There are people, I think, that do launder not great
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: reasons for questioning World War II through whatever.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: No doubt. No doubt. There is a very interesting....
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: The teeth really come out, the gnashing of teeth come
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: out in this country when you question at all the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: American war machine.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And the pageantry of war and the.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: You know, iconography of the state and of war and
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: of how important it is and how just it always
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: is and how we're always on the right side of
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it and we're always doing the right thing. And at
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: World War II, we 100% were, but there are a
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: lot of other times when we've made grave errors with
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: our military. And I feel like it's not good enough
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: for you can't just point to World War II, which is, again,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: we were correct.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: But I think there is this idea that if you,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: it's not an accident there's a million movies made about
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: World War II. It's not an accident that there is
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of pageantry surrounding.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: World War II. Well, also that the World War II
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: movies have heroes. Of course. Whereas the Vietnam movies are
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: apocalypse now. That's right. Everything's complicated and it's all chaos.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: So I think that inspires the idea that a military
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: solution is always correct and that the use of force
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: is always the right way to do it. And that
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: coincidentally makes people lots and lots of money and their
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: children never end up fighting those wars. Right.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: That seems to be a lot of it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't people with bad
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: motivations that are genuinely anti-Semitic or that genuinely have fascist inclinations.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: There absolutely are.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: But I think there needs to be space to criticize
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the mythologizing of war in general and the justification for
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: endless wars all the time.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Like Iran. I hope Trump does not go into Iran.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: That seems like a very bad idea.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It also seems like a very bad idea for Iran
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to get nuclear weapons. That seems bad, too.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that without
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: a regime change war. This is what we have to do.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: This is what Tulsi Gabbard, I think, was very attractive
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: about a lot of what she said during her confirmation hearing.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: She goes, I understand that there are terrorists out there
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that are dangerous, but we got to find a way
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: to deal with them without committing troops. To stand there
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: in an Islamic country, we've done this. We saw this movie.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work out. And I think we have to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: stop thinking that it's going to be better this time
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: if we decapitate the head of a foreign government and
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: we have American soldiers in an Islamic country trying to
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: set up a provisional government. The nightmare of that during Iraq,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Paul Bremer, this weird British-looking guy that they sent to
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: stand on that rubble with his boots and the mission
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: accomplished on the aircraft carrier.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It brings back, to me, it's like I get flashbacks
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: from it. Do you remember the guy who was the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Iraqi public relations guy who was saying that they're winning
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the war?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Was it Ahmed Chalabi? Well, no, that was the guy
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: that fed us all the bullshit to get us in.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. It was the guy that people openly mocked.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I believe he had glasses. And he was the guy
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: that was always saying that Iraq is kicking ass. Oh, interesting. No. Yeah,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Baghdad something or another they called him.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: And he was saying that we were doing good?
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Oh, that we were good. No, no.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: He was saying that Iraq is kicking our ass. Yeah. Well,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: do you remember that?
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: No, I don't remember that.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Baghdad something or another they called him.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: By the way, does anyone know what's going on in
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Iraq right now?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Mostly flea markets.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: If there was a gun to my head, I could
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: not tell you what the state of Iraq was.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I know the Taliban are in Afghanistan.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: What's going on in Iraq?
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen. You hear that?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Ready?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: That's a gay guy that threw off a roof. Right, right.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: So that's what we spent.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: That's a 20-year, you know, commitment. Or it was a
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: very long time.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: So that's like, I feel like that's the thing, that
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: when you ever try to have a nuanced understanding of
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: what we can and can't do, I don't think it's
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: a great idea that Iran gets nuclear weapons. It seems
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: like there are ways to prevent that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: We've got to make ISIS in charge. Full-scale invasion. Yeah.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: But don't we need these– like I think– I always
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: look at these groups like the Houthis and stuff.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: We need these people. 100%. We need them.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And the Houthis are a fun one because they're like
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: on the ocean and they're like pirates. This is new.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: They figured out that like land-based stuff is not as–
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: they're like– they're disrupting trade. You know how much of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: our trade goes to– it's 3%. Hey. 3%. Don't minimize that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Just like I don't want you minimizing the female astronauts.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we need these Houthis. It feels like we
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: need these groups. We had ISIS. We had then ISIL. Now,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we had the people in Syria. I forget
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: their names, something. But we need these little groups. And
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: this is what we do. We just choose, because all
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: of these groups are not even, they're just people hanging out.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: And then we give them weapons and get them going.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: They're just guys in a bar. A lot of these
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: groups are guys in a bar in Seattle.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Some of them don't even have a bar. They have
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a hole in the ground.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: They're sitting a hole in the ground, and we show up,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and we start arming them and giving them stuff. And
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: it's like that Bill Hicks joke where it's like, pick
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: up the gun. For him especially, it's like, are the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Houthis an existential threat to the United States?
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: That feels crazy. The craziest thing was- Just feels insane.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Trump showing the video of them getting bombed. It's so wild.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: This is the problem.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: We could get rid of all of these threats in
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: five minutes.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: But we don't seem to want to. It's not good
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: for business. You can't come to a market every week.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You'll burn it out. No, the Houthis are good. If
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you're doing stand-up, you've got to go once a year.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: You've got to go once a year, once every 18 months.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And I like the Houthis because they feel it's like
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: a new... But they're not sticking. No one's believing it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: So now they're back to Hezbollah. Hezbollah wears the fatigues.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: If you get up Hezbollah, they're scary looking. The Houthis
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: are not that scary. The Houthis look like a bunch
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: of dudes in like a bazaar, like you said, like
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: in a flea market. They're on a boat, they're holding
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: up guns, no one cares. Hezbollah looks genuinely like, okay.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Let's not fuck with these people. It was like Shane's
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: bit about the Iraqis or the Afghanis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Going through the fucking workouts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We think
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: they're like an elite army. Oh, God, yeah. They couldn't
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: do jumping jacks. They couldn't do anything.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: But that's the whole thing. It's this weird global chessboard
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: of like, you know, as someone said to me once,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: there's like a dial.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: You turn it up. You're like, more war, less war.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: More war, less war. I'm going to see right now
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: if smelling salts are good for allergies. Have you gotten
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: any of the allergies out here? No. I don't get it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: My first year of legitimately getting them. Cedar fever? I
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: think you've got to do cocaine. They make allergy medicine, too. Yeah,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that's no fun. Yeah, maybe Zyrtec or something. That's no fun.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: What is it, the cedar?
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Cedar? I don't know what it is.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's, people say senior fever.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: But my nose has been running. Did you hear the
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: story at all? Mark Hopper actually might have helped the
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: military capture Saddam Hussein. What?
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: So they were on a USO tour in 2003, and
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: they got asked to come in and do like a
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: private show. And he sat down, it's like he doesn't hear.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Said, sir, I have a plan to catch Saddam Hussein,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the musician recalled telling a Navy admiral on board the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf. According to Hapas, Hussein
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: had been sending video messages to his followers from an
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: unknown location at the time. The musician felt that the
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: military could use drones to their advantage and uncover his
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: location by pulling data from the video messages. Sir, what
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: about having drones fly all over the region and carpeting patterns,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: broadcasting time codes above the level of human hearing? but
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: at the level that a video recording would catch it,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Hope had suggested to the Admiral. Then the next time
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: he releases one of his videos, you could listen to it,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: pull the ultrasonic data, and triangulate the drones you have
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: flying all over. Holy shit. This is the guy from Blink-182?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I think his dad was in the military.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Someone was in something.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: He knew, yeah. Okay, this brings me back to that
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: fucking Strange Times in Laurel Canyon shit. Yeah. Four months later,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Sodom was located and captured in Iraq, so you're welcome, everyone.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: What a great book.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Well, not only the Tom O'Neill book, but then this
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Dave McGowan book, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon. I lived
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: up there when I was living in LA. I lived
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: up there. And I'm telling you, that is the creepiest
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: vibe of any area that I've ever been to in
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: my life.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: It's a weird vibe.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: They have that fucking military installation, that lookout mountain.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Jared Leto owns that. He lives there now. Doesn't he
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: have a whole cult? He's a good guy. I'm sure
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: he is.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's bad to have a cult.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: They tried to investigate his cult. It turns out it's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: not really. It's just a bunch of people having fun.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: There's no requirements. No one asks you to fuck them.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: It's a voluntary fuck cult. It's not even a voluntary
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: fuck cult. They get together and dance or something. I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: don't know what they do. I lived there for three years.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't get one text.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I had not one. I used to drive by and
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: point at it and go, look, it's the thing. What
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: do they do? What does Jarrett Littles? It's like a
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: summer camp. They call it echelon. Yeah. It's a summer camp.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I used to go watch the band play close up.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, what the fuck's the problem with that, Tim? How
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: about Tim Dillon Fest? I have no problem with that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: It's basically skank fest.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Just a bunch of people eating shellfish in Long Island
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: being racist?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I have no issue with that at all.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: What a fun time though for us. Yeah. Cause everything's
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: just taught. I mean, there's just so much stuff to
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: talk about. Everything's nuts.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Do you think, you know, I was on the all
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: in podcast the other day and they were talking about, um,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: these chips, these Davidia chips and how, what's interesting is
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: people are setting up cause we have these export controls
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: that don't allow us to send certain chips to China
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: cause they're able to like manipulate them and then become
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: like the world's largest semiconductor producer. But now all these
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: fun fake companies are starting in like Bhutan or Cambodia
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and they're buying the chips or Singapore and then they
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: all get back to China.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Well, one of the guys who worked at whatever the
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: preeminent AI system in China was saying, one of the
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: whistleblowers was saying that they have 50,000 of these fucking
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: banned chips. That's so wild. Whoopsies.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And so they were talking about, like, is it better
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to send them the chips or is it better to,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: if you don't send them the chips, then it spurs
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: their innovation and they make the chips?
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Well, either way, they're going to get the chips. Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: They're getting the chips. They're both innovating and stealing at
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the same time.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Can there be anything done to stop their rise?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Nah. Not at this point. Doesn't feel like it, right?
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: They're so much more technologically advanced in so many different
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: areas now. Yeah. Like the drones that they have are
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: so superior to the commercial drones that we have because
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: drones over here, you have to have a pilot's license
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to drive the really spicy ones.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Do you think some of those drones over New Jersey
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: were theirs?
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Could be. I think they were ours. I honestly do. Otherwise,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I think they would have shot them down if they could.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they could. And maybe they wouldn't
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: because then it would alarm people because then it would
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: like you would show that that is a legitimate threat.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: We're fighting for like satellite supremacy in the sky too.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Crazy. The internet, the Starlink. I mean essentially
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Elon's launching Starlinks all over the fucking world.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Do you worry at all about the tech people being
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Democrats up until five minutes ago?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should. But I think. a lot of those
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: people have shifted sides and they've shifted sides because they
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: understand that, well, You know, I had Marc Andreessen in here,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and Marc Andreessen was explaining. He said the most terrifying
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: meetings we ever had was when we were part of
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: an AI startup, and the government came in and said,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: we're not going to let you do this. Not only
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: are we not going to let you do this, we're
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: not going to let anybody do this. We're going to
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: have a small amount of these things we're going to
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: completely control. He was like, what the fuck? You guys
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: are really openly saying this, that you're going to inhibit
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: innovation at the highest level of technology, some shit that
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you probably don't even understand. But you want to have
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: absolute control over it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I think the worry is that people don't trust the government,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: nor should they. But I don't know if they trust
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: these tech guys either.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't. Yeah. You shouldn't. Look what's going on with OpenAI.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. I think that people are wary
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: of the tech people because they've now– these were the
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: same people that were censoring and kicking people off the
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: internet when the– people in the White House were blue.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: And now that the people in the White House are red,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: it's swung back the other way. So I think people
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: are a little wary of that. They don't know where
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: that goes.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: It's just power. It's just, I mean, like Bernie Sanders
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: is right in that you should be scared of oligarchs
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and oligarchs shouldn't be running our government. He's right in
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that regard. And when people get into positions of just
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: unchecked power... So let's say if someone had control of
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: some tech company, let's say it's an AI company. And
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: that AI company literally creates the unstoppable AI that helps
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: empower the entire country. And there's one guy who's in
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: control of it and he's worth $ 3 trillion now. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: he decides to lobby and change a bunch of laws
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and influence politicians. And his company starts donating to certain politicians.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: You could change the fabric of society with enough money
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: and enough power and enough influence, especially if you could
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: completely control what the narrative is in terms of when
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: people Google things, when they search things, when they talk
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: about things. you can completely control what they're allowed to
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: talk about and how that narrative gets countered instantly with
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: facts and bullshit.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's being done everywhere, right? So it's being
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: done at the highest levels. And I think people are
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable with.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Just losing, even though a lot of them realize that
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: we didn't have a ton of control, they feel like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I think when you head into the world of tech
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: where people just don't even know where this goes, where
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: does it go? Does it go to transhumanism? Does it
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: go to like AI replacing everybody? And then at what point,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: what do you do with those people that AI replaced?
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Do you give them all cryptocurrency that's linked to their
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: biological whatever? I've heard all these ideas, right? How do
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: you deal with... driverless cars where if the entire road
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: is automated, how do you deal with that? I think
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: that fills people with an anxiety where they go, what
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: is the plan? And a lot of these tech guys
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: are like, well, we got to get off the planet.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: And I think people start going like, wait a minute.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: You know, like that's Weinstein, Eric Weinstein. Well, it's a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: lot of people. There's a lot of people. I don't
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: know what you're saying. There's a lot of people. There's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: no air on Mars. Like, let's not go there. Yeah. Well,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: for sure. For sure.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think Trump and Moscow have a falling out eventually?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: It's a good question. The media keeps trying to push
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: that they are.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: It feels like they're just big personalities in that there's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: an inevitability when you have two guys that are incredibly,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Perhaps. Alpha. But Elon is very smart. And you see
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: he's always very deferential. Yeah. And he's always very respectful. Mr. President.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: It's always that. Well, of course. Call him sir. That's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: how I treat him. I always call him sir. Yeah.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: It's Donald Trump. Yeah, I get it. You're fired. I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: get it. But he's also the president of the United States.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I call him sir. But I call everybody sir. Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I call everybody sir. Yeah. It's like the byproduct of
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: me living in Texas now. Right. Sure. Yeah. But I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to- You don't get pulled
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: over anymore here. And if I do, it's not that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: big of a deal.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: If you get pulled over here, a cop gives you money.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: They go, Mr.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Rogan, here's a check. I mean, there's no way. There's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: no law that you cannot break here. I'm guaranteeing you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's correct. I think you could do
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I think they would cover up a murder.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: That's sweet.
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  Speaker 2: If you murdered three people, I think the awesome PD
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: would go, whatever, man.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: He's doing a lot.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: They'd bring that mayor, that guy, and he'd go, what?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: They'd go, yeah, the suspect's Joe Rogan. He was standing
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: over the bodies. They'd go, are you out of your
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: fucking mind? Drive him home right now. Drive that man home.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: If I was in waist deep, in Rainy Street, drowning
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: a party goer. They don't care. Bro, they still don't
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: want to admit that there's a serial killer.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: You're the tourism board. Yeah, no, something's up.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: There's a serial killer. Something's going on. I believe there's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: a serial killer.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: What are they doing? They're luring people to that bridge
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not hard. People like to go to the bridge.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: You just got to look out for the bushes. So weird.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I guess it's such a high to kill someone. To me,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you get out of it? But
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I guess the people that are doing it like it.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: They're broken. There's broken people. Some broken people do meth
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and some broken people drown guys who like to party.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Do you ever talk to like, I'm sure you have.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: This is a stupid question, but like the high level
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: law enforcement guys that have just met these monsters and stuff.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And is there.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Do they believe that it's like, is there any part
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: of them that believes someone's just born?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Yes. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And it's generally you have psychotic parents.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: And so whether it's nature or nurture is hard to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: separate because you're probably abused. And generally at an early age,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: they show like a willingness to torture like house pets
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Animals. Yeah. Yeah. They'll maybe start
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: off with a frog they catch and stick up. like
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: a firecracker in its mouth and stuff like that. And
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: then they eventually worked their way up to humans.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Now it seems so much harder to do it because
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: of these phones, surveillance.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: It is, but it's... You can still do it. Not
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: in Austin. You can get away with drowning folks.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: You can drown people. Why don't you think they'll admit it?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: They don't want people getting spooked?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's a good question. Maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the biggest things ever in Austin
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: were those crazy yogurt shop murderers. HBO just came out
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: with a documentary about it.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: When was that?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: It was many years ago, this crazy yogurt shop murder thing.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: HBO just did a doc. It happened in Austin. It
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: was a famous case, and it's completely unsolved, except they
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: put some people in jail for it, but then later
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: let one of them out. It was just one of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: those things where nobody was sure about what happened.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: So they were murdering people that went to the yogurt place?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: It was 1991, and just south by southwest, they just
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: did a huge.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was one homicide, right? A quadruple homicide which
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: took place at, I can't believe it's yogurt shop in Austin.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: That could have been me in 1991.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Wow. It's 34 years ago. 34 years ago. It's an underbelly.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: 14 girls were murdered in Austin. Wow. 14, yeah. Wow.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: And they don't know who did it? And it's puzzled.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: They don't know. It's an unsolved murder. I'd check the boyfriends.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: And there's many different theories about it.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's crazy. Four men were arrested and charged with
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: capital murder in 99, but two of their cases were overturned.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: The other two never went to trial. Wow. Interesting.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: So there are these things that happen.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Well, that's what they say that if you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: just randomly shoot someone and kill them, like if you're
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: a real, real like rando, like did you ever see
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: that movie Henry portrait of a serial killer?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: It was about a guy named Henry Lee Lucas. Oh, wow. Yeah,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: and Henry Lee Lucas was attributed, they attributed like 62
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: murders to him. The problem is, I think one of
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the things cops do is they go, did you kill
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: this guy? Yeah, I killed him too. Where'd you bury him?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Where was he buried? Oh, that's where I buried him. Oh, right.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Now you got a case solved.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: That was the accusation about Henry. Because he was definitely
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a murderer and a grifter and a drifter. And he
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: was traveling around the country stealing things. But then they
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: made a movie about him. And in the movie, he's
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: way more sinister and calculated. But he would just randomly
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: kill people.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: So they all take credit for things they didn't do.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Exactly. To just beef up the body count. Exactly. Self-aggrandizing.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Because that's what they want. They want attention. They're already
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: in jail. That's so wild. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, when
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: you have shitty DAs and shitty prosecutors and shitty cops,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: they'll do stuff like that.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there are people that are, you know,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: National Park seemed to be like a hotbed of people disappearing.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Appalachian Trail people. Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's people getting you or is that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of it like I got lost, I got eaten?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: You get lost. Yeah. You get eaten. There's a guy
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: who has this whole series for one, Is it 911
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: missing or 411 missing people in national parks? Listen, man,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: you're just meat out there and you get eaten. And
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: by the way, you don't find dead anything out there.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: You don't find dead mountain lions. Guess what? They die
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: all the time. I've never seen a dead mountain lion
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: when I was hunting. Because they get eaten. They get eaten.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Everything gets eaten. Not only do you get eaten, your
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: bones get eaten. Everything gets eaten.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: So it's not uncommon to disappear and there's no trace.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: No trace.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Super common. So if you're in a high traffic area,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: like I've hunting, I've found elk bones where a hunter
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: killed the elk and then, you know, took all the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: meat off the bones and then left the bones there.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: That's what you do when you pack out meat.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: And I've found those animals. I actually even found one
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: animal that I shot a long time ago. I shot
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: like four years ago. And you found it. Yeah, we
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: were in the same location. It was the same bones.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: There wasn't all the bones there left. Some of them
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: have been dragged away. Some of them have probably been
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: eaten by rodents. You know, they eat the bones slowly
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: but surely. And if you're a human, you're made out
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: of nothing. You're so easy to eat. Right. You know,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: like our bones are less dense. Our meat is soft
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: and chewy. You know, like we get devoured. A bear
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: would eat your whole body. There would be almost nothing left.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: And rodents would eat what's left. Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: You got to be careful in those places.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: You can't be careful. Like if you don't have a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: GPS navigation system that has a lot of batteries. If
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: you don't have a compass and know how to use it,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: if you don't have a map, it's so easy to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: get lost in the woods. Right. It's so easy. Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: They're all around you, and you can go in one
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: direction and circle around. You don't even realize you're circling. Right.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: And then three days later, you're back to where you started.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: You're like, fucking no. Yeah, it's terrible. You've been eating
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: tree bark for three days. It's insane. And you're thinking,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: any step, I'm going to see the highway. What a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: horrible thing. People die like that all the time. All
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: the time. All the time. Just go to a hotel.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult to navigate yourself. Just go to a resort.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: If you don't know the woods, you're not used to
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: being in the woods, and you're not used to having
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: landmarks that you follow and know how to use a compass,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: know how to use a GPS.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Some people are good at it, and even they get eaten.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they get eaten too. Well, you break your ankle. Right.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: How about you break your ankle out there, and you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: can't hike out. It's not possible. Right. What do you do? Yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: You fucking die. That's what you do.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Got to be very careful.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: And you hear something at night. You're sleeping under a tree,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: and you hear something at night. Right.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Right. You had a bear sniffing you. It's crazy. You
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: can't run away, and you don't have a weapon. You
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: can't do anything. It just eats you alive.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: And those woods are so dense in the Pacific Northwest
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, everywhere, but... Especially the Pacific Northwest. Especially there,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: it's like crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. You don't find nothing
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: out there. But that's why the Bigfoot rumor persists up there.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: It's because the woods are like a box of Q-tips. Right.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: You know, like you can't see shit out there. You
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. You see like a little
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: shadow moving in between trees and you've decided it's a Bigfoot.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's just like. A bear. It could be, right. Yeah,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: it's most likely a bear. Especially bears walking on two legs.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Northern California is weird like that, too. I mean, that's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: part of the Pacific Northwest, probably.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get killed up there. Yeah. People die up
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: there all the time. Did you ever see that documentary Sasquatch? No.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: It's a documentary that was on... Was it on Hulu, Jamie?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: We had the director in it, the guy who created it.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. And what it's really about is about
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: marijuana growers murdered a guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot. Wow. So...
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: These marijuana growers in Humboldt, like up that area. Yeah,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Murray Mountain. So they all were hippies, right? And then
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: they started growing weed and then cartel people moved in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and gangs moved in and they started robbing these people.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: So these people became heavily armed. And so then they
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: started having wars with like the growers and cartel people.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And so there was these people that were trying to
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: steal from them. They murdered these people and then they
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: blamed it on Bigfoot. They ran over him with a
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: fucking backhoe and crushed his body.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: These hippies are really violent.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, they get violent once there's money.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: These hippies are junkies. This whole hippie thing I think
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: is kind of a lie.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Well, they all become people with money if you're growing weed.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: You become a multimillionaire who's carrying a sidearm. And you're
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: going to protect your money. And then these people are
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: trying to kill you to take your shit. So then
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you're like fucking Jason whatever his name is in Ozark. Right.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: And now you're a drug dealer. That's so funny.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: It's so funny, the weird like marijuana where it's like
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: it's federally still illegal, but like states, it's legal in
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: certain states.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: And there's that gray area where there's just like you
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: have half of that business is like in the shadows
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: and half of it's and people make lots of money.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: It's strange. Well, not only that, because California made it legal,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: they also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally. Right.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: So what happens is these cartels started growing it on
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: national forest land. And so then game wardens started finding it.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: There's a guy named John Norris who's been on the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: podcast before. He wrote a book called Hidden War. Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: And it was all about he was a game warden
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: and he became a part of a tactical crew that
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: was busting cartel members who were heavily armed growing marijuana
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: in national forests. That's crazy. Yeah. Because most of the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: illegal weed that's been sold all over the country was
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: being grown there. So in the places where it is illegal,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: they grow it where it's legal. And if they get busted,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: it's just a misdemeanor. So it doesn't matter. And they're
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: not going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary state. Right.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter how many acres and acres of weed.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: there was a prohibition that propped up organized crime. Same thing.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: has a demand that normal.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Do you think weed is going to be federally legal?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: If I had to guess, not during this administration. Yeah. No,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think... It feels like.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: A lot of the experimental harm reduction policies in places
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: like Portland are going the other way.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Well, they went a little crazy in a place that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: was already crazy.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a woman driving around shooting people up
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: called the stabbing wagon. And she was like, if somebody
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: needed a fix, she'd pull up and give.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Them clean needles and stuff. Is it really called the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: stabbing wagon?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: It was called the stabbing wagon.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: For real?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're stabbing. And if you're just tweeting... No,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: this is like a way to help.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, Portland.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: This was a way to help people. Oh, Portland is
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: so beautiful. And people would just be chilling and like, hey,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I need a couple of clean needles. So this woman
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: would just show up. There'd be like a bunch of
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: junkies hanging out.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: She'd show up. She'd hop out of the stabbing wagon
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of clean needles, hand them out. People
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: are like, fuck yeah. Good to see you. Oh, my God.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: And she's like, fuck yeah. I hope you're all doing good.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: And they're like, well, you know how it is. Oh,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: my God.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: And the problem was that didn't work.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Not only did it not work, it encouraged people to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: move there to shoot up. Yeah, actually, that's true.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: So people started moving there because they're like, this is
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: actually a pretty good deal. They don't care if you
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: live on the street. And there's this bitch in a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: van that shows up.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: With clean needles. And they give you money.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and whatever you need.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: They give you free money and food. Yeah. Yeah. Here
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: it is, the stabbing wagon. Stabbing wagon. Harm reduction. No,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's real. She only has 4,000 followers. That's fucked.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Hit that follow, Jamie. Hit a little follow on her.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I don't. There you go. Look at the step. There's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: a stabbing wagon. Well, at least she's healthy. It's the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: stabbing wagon. Okay. Makes sense.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, it's like that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: seems like a good way to combat drug use is
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: to have a van of drugs.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: That van got a $ 1. 5 million grant. Did you see that?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Did you see that in the previous article? Of course.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: $ 1.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: 5 million grant. Well, because they're trying to help people.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Get high. They're trying to help people get high in
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: a safe way. Bro, where she parked that van? That's
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: what I need to know.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good question. She probably lived in
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: the burbs and then came in and then did what she.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Needed to do. She doesn't look like a burbs lady.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good point. Well, you know those weird,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: those Pacific Northwest suburbs, a lot of them aren't my burbs.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: The ones that I like. Very odd. Those people are...
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: It's different. They're like people that live outside of Chernobyl. Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: They're forever changed.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: It's different. There's not a lot of sun up there.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Something's going on.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Bad DNA damage.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: What was funny is there was a big article where
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, this is actually... What's crazy is
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: you read about those cities, right? Like Portland and San Francisco.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: They'll do the craziest thing ever. And then like two
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: years later, they'll start going like, yeah, this just is
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: not having the results that we thought it would have.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Like this is drug use is up. Crime is up.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Violence is up.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: So Santa Monica now is doing a curfew because there's
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: been violent crimes at night.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: They're thinking about doing a curfew in Santa Monica. So again,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: because Santa Monica is thinking about doing a curfew. because
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: there's like violent crime. So instead of just going like, okay,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: we got to throw these people in jail. Like it's
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: nine o'clock, go home.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: This is California. This is the biggest economy in our country,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: and they're thinking of having a curb because they're all
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: out of ideas on how to stop people from being
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: victims of violent crime. Bro, I got friends who can't
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: sell their houses there. No, it's bad. I'm glad I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: sold my house when it did. Nobody wants to buy
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: houses there anymore. Nobody wants to buy houses there. They're like,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: we're getting out. Everybody who's not out is at least
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: thinking about it.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Uber rich people are... Um, a lot of them are
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: just keeping their houses cause they can't get the money
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: they want. So like people that are like in Bel Air,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: those crazy things, right?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, Bel Air, these behemoths. They're just kind of like,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: just leave it.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: You got to hope that like there's some crazy celebrity
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: rapper guy like Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If you're selling a $ 70
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: million house, you have like five people that will buy it.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: You also got to hope that they elect Rick Caruso
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: and he goes around California in a tank. With a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: bunch of guys in bazookas, and it's like the craziest
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: thing you've ever seen, that's all you can hope for.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: You need like a Rudy Giuliani type character.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you need Sergeant Slaughter from the old WWF.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: You need a fully fascist. You need a guy to
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: run as a fascist. When they go, are you a Republican?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no, no, no. I am a fascist.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: This is a military dictatorship. You need four years of
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: a military dictatorship in California to just turn it around,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: to just start steering it.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: The other way. Well, it's moving red. That's one thing
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: that you saw by the electoral map from 2024. California
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: is moving red.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going red.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, slowly but surely.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: There's only so many times you can wake up in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: a $ 4 million house with a gun in your mouth.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Before you start thinking differently about it, you know?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Did you see they were trying to pass laws where
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: they're deciding how much violence is enough violence if someone
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: breaks into your house? Yeah. Like you shoot them too
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: many times. Right. In the middle of being terrified. Absolutely.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: They will always take the side of the people that
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: are trying to destroy civilization.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Always. Do you think that when you don your tinfoil
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: hat and Velcro the chin strap, do you think that
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: this is a grand plan to destroy civilization?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: I think what you have... I don't know if it's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: a grand plan, but I think what you have is
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: you have two things that are happening simultaneously.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: You have.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: the people, the last people that seem to want to
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: be in politics are people that believe in like nothing.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: They're like empty suit Gavin Newsom types who just really
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: don't seem They just, whatever room they're in.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Have you seen his podcast?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that proves my point. That proves my point now, right?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: He's a believer.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: So now he's like, oh, things are going right.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: I'll go to the right. Things are going to the left.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: I'll go to the left. So you have like these
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: people that just don't, they will not like Sanders or.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Trump, whatever you think about them. They're not going to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: like quote, stand on business. They're not going to tell people,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: here's where I'm at. This is the way I feel.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: They're just empty vessels.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: And then at the same time you have that happening,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: you have the, craziest people in the world that somehow
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: have gotten a hold of ton of money and a
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: ton of influence on social media and those empty-suit politicians
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: are like scared of these lunatics that believe the craziest
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: things you've ever heard so these politicians are just like
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: taking edicts from these crazy people online who tell them
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: that we need the stabbing wagon and we need all
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: this stuff I don't I don't know how that happened,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: that somebody should look at how that happened and study it.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: And I think it's a lot of these politicians are
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: deeply corrupt. And I think they're terribly afraid of whatever
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: corruption they're involved with coming to the surface. And it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: could be personal in their personal life.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: It could be with the state.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, the mismanagement of money, of resources,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff. So if I was a really
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: corrupt politician, I would just do the craziest left-wing shit
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: So that I could never be accused of anything.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Good move.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: And I would just let them do whatever the hell
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: they want. I'd go, yeah, well, fuck it.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: We got a new law that says they got to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: draw blood.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: In your house from you before you can defend yourself.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: We need a rapper. Yeah. Rappers are the last people
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: in this country that can kind of get away with
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: almost anything.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Well, rappers are honest. A lot of them, even though
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: they might lie about how much money they have and stuff,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: there's a certain honesty to that genre of music.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Clearly, you can go too far like P. Diddy.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: You can go too far. But he wasn't super honest.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: He seemed to be concealing a bit.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: He seemed to be. Yeah. Do you think he was
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: working for somebody? Or working with somebody? Or do you
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: think it was all his own personal black guy?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: If the CIA was like, we don't really know anything
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: about this world. That's not what we do. We're like
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Harvard guys. We have these fucking weirdos.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: We know about how to get in with our people.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: But we need someone who was a black guy to
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: It could have been P.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Diddy.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: But didn't all the accusations come out after he was
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: involved in a lawsuit with Ciroc? Like he was trying.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: That's what people said, yeah. Yeah, that's where it gets interesting, right? Yeah.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be. You got to be
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: very careful when you start fucking around with people's billions.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Big, powerful billionaires are probably, they're their own governments.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, when you run afoul of them, I
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: think there's many ways at which they can get you.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Also, they feel like. They pay so much money for taxes.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I think that's a lot of these intelligence agencies are
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: working for those people. They're not, I think, on their own.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: There's big money to be made. And there's a lot
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: of people that own these companies and have been rich
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: for a very long time and who aren't on reality TV.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: And you don't really know who they are, but they
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: like some of them are on the Forbes list.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Some of them aren't.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Some of them are just incredibly wealthy and they've made
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: their money in ways that you could barely understand. And
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: those are people that, you know, are the reason historically
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: that the CIA is going into Latin America and overthrowing
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: government so that United Fruit.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Can, you know, it's true. Have a monopoly. Have a monopoly. Right.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: It's like this is so they're doing things at the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: behest of these ultra wealthy families that control huge industries.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Sure. And they always have. I mean, that's back to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Smedley Butler's War is a Racket. Thousand percent. Yeah, that
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: was 1933 he wrote that or something. And that's the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: way the whole thing seems to be organized. Yeah, and
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: always has been. We're just learning it now. You know,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: that's all the difference.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: But it is falling apart now because some of their
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: kids are doing stand-up comedy.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: No, literally.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are people, they're young in New York
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: and they're just like, their parents are some of the
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: wealthiest people in the world. And these kids are, like,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: doing stand-up, which is a terrible sign for the empire.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: That's not a great sign for the empire, is that, like,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: a guy that would have taken over his dad's business is, like,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: doing dick jokes.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Well, he probably has a trust fund. So he probably
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun. He's like,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I want to have fun. For sure. I want to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: be like my dad. Yeah. Have a fucking heart attack
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: when I'm 49. That's right. But we need them doing that.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Some of them.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Having heart attacks? Yes. Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Everyone can't be a clown. There is something deeply unhealthy
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: about the Illuminati doing stand-up. I don't love that idea.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Well, unless they're using ChatGPT, how good could their material be?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: It's not ideal. It can't be.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of crowd work.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: And even if they do use ChatGPT, ChatGPT has not
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: shown any ability to really craft a good joke yet.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: It's just funny to meet some of these people and
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: then you talk to them and they'll just casually drop
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: that they're like, you know. Your parents are like billionaires.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: And you're like, that's awesome, man. And they're just doing
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: bar shows. It's kind of interesting. And they're nice people,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: but just to pull out and look at it from
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: a sociological standpoint, it says something about people's idea of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: the future that these people just want to be famous now.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: How many of them are there? That's more than you'd think. Really? Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: And it's a New York thing?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there. And
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Mega rich, like not like, hey, my dad's a successful whatever.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like, whoa. Billions. Big money. Yeah. Where
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you go, interesting. And then the kids don't have any
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: pressure to do anything.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: The kids kind of float around and they're doing, it's
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: just very funny. It's something that makes me laugh. It's
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: just like a billionaire kid on stage looking at someone
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: in the audience going, what do you do for a living?
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of crowd work, huh?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do for a living? Maybe this
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: is the first time they've met people that aren't billionaires.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: That could also be a thing. This might be a
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: way to just socialize Illuminati kids.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: They've met their housekeepers before. Maybe they asked them, like,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: what should I talk about on stage?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, they have, and what's funny is
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: they have parties in their big houses and bring their
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: other comic friends who are bums. You know, young comics,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're all bums. So then like the parents
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: are like, hello. And they bring in like a bum
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and they go, this is my buddy.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: And then. He's stealing from the buffet. He's just like
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: staring at them going, whoa, this place rocks.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: It's like a sitcom.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: And they're like, these are my friends. And I think
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: the parents are kind of like, oh, well, isn't that nice?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: So maybe it's a phase. I think the parents look
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: at it like they're going through a phase. That's interesting
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: that there's more than one of them doing stand-up.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: It says something about that group of people that used
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: to run everything. They have a dearth of purpose in
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: their life. They're kind of aimless and they float around.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I don't mean specifically rich comedian kids. I just mean
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: that ruling class, what are they doing now?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: They don't really have a purpose.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: They kind of float around. They try this new age
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: spirituality bullshit. They travel all over the place. You look
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: at any of these rich kids' Instagrams, all they're doing
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: is traveling. It's all the same shit. We're going to Anguilla.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Go here, go there.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: There's no purpose. I think they don't feel like America
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: has a defining mission. If you look at families like
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: the Kennedys, the Bushes, whatever, you think about those families,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: they served in the military.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: They believed that there was some type of.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Arc of history that they were a part of. I
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: feel like a lot of rich people now just kind
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: of don't believe in much of anything. And it's just
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I don't know, bored. They start a
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: fake company.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Well, if your whole focus is just making more money. Yeah.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: How much time can you spend believing in things? Right.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: That's going to take away from your ability to earn. Yeah.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the big problems now.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: And that's why I think you saw like a lot
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: of like people get crazy on the left and they
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: started instituting like all these like weird virtue, you know,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: these purity tests and stuff like that is because I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: think they feel a lack of meaning and they wanted
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: to give them, a lot of them wanted to be
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: self-flagellation and like they wanted the tenets of religion.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: They wanted meaning.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: They just don't have it. So I think that's what
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: happens with a lot of them. And their kids are
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: nice people. They're not bad people. It's just funny to
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: see like, Because most people who do comedy, a lot
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: of them aren't poor. A lot of them are like
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: middle class people because they have like.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: The ability to go and at least think it's an option. Right.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: But it is funny when someone goes, I'm doing comedy
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm the scion of great wealth. Scion's a great word.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing to me just because I've always
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: been fascinated with rich people and like these people that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: run the world. And it's so interesting that some of
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: their kids are like, I want to. I'm going to
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: do stand-up comedy now.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: When was the first time you met a really rich person?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: How old were you?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I met a couple of mafia people that my dad
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: used to play music, so they owned some bars.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: But they weren't super rich. I would observe them because.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: My uncle was the director of operations for all these
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: restaurant groups in New York City, this restaurant group in
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: New York City that had these big high-end steakhouses. And
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: I would go, and one of them was on 63rd
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: and Park. And I would sit in this steakhouse with
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: my parents. I was probably eight or nine years old.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: And you'd look around. And I said to my dad once,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, maybe 10 or 11. And this is
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: a weird thing to say to a 10 or 11-year-old.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, who are these people? My dad goes,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: these people run the world. I was just very fascinated
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: by all these, like, people that were so different. Because
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: in Long Island, where I came from, everyone was loud and,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: you know, fighting all the time. And, you know, my
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: best friend Josh, who lived two houses down from me,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: his mother Eileen would scream at his father in the
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: front yard. And he was like a conductor for the railroad.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: And she would just go, why didn't you do it?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: And then you would go to Manhattan, and a lot
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: of these restaurants that my uncle had, you'd see these
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: kind of quiet people, and they were all very well-dressed,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: and they were in suits. In Manhattan, they live in
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: these stone townhouses like Epstein did.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: They live in these little mini.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Stone townhouses and I was just fascinated. I was like,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: it's very interesting. These, these people are interesting. What are
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: they up to type of thing?
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: And then you start, start reading about them and, and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: you know, it is just super interesting because they're a
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: very big reason why.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Society looks the way it does. 100%.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: You know? And, and, and that to me was an
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: interesting thing. It's like, why are certain people in certain positions, uh,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: what role do the politicians play and what role do
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: these really quiet rich people play that are kind of
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: waspy and could be Jewish, could be anything. They're just
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, they're quiet. They don't really
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: want you to know too much about them. They really
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: value their privacy. So it's funny with the kids doing
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: stand-up comedy to me and even these rich people that
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: go on these reality shows, it's interesting that it used
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: to be sacrilegious, the idea that you would show people
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: how much money you had or that you would talk
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: about yourself. And a lot of that started to change.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of these rich people just want to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: be famous. It almost feels like it's the last thing left.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Well, most young kids today, when they ask them, what
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: do you want to be? A giant percentage of them
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: say famous. They want to be an influencer. They want
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: to be a TikToker, a YouTuber. Right. They want to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: be famous because why would you want a job like
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: your parents have when you could just open sneakers? Yeah. Open,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to do an unboxing show.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like why would you want a regular job? Yeah.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Regular jobs are soul-sucking, especially if you work. Look, it's
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: one thing if you have a career. Sure. One thing
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: if you start your own business, it's something exciting. There's
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: another thing to be working for somebody. Working for somebody
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: is horrible for the most part.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: It is, but I think people can derive enjoyment from
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: things outside of their jobs.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Sure, but that leaves you one-third of your day that's
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: been eaten up. Yes. You have one-third of your day
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: for sleep, one-third of your day that's been eaten up
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: by this bullshit job. Yeah. And then the remaining hours
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: between commutes and whatever the fuck you eat all has
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: to be wrapped up in.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: It is— I get it. I totally get it. If you're
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: a young kid, you go on YouTube, you go, I
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: want to be David Dobrik.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be— Who's that? David Dobrik.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: He's like a big guy on YouTube.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah. He does, I don't know. He's like
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: a Mr. Beast type.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: He's not as big.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Beast is like a planet.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: But Dobrik's big, you know, or whoever. Like, they look
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: at these young, and they entertain, like, younger people. He
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: does fun videos about, like, hey, whatever.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: You know, it's always the same. It's like, what if
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I fill the pool with.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: M & Ms? Whatever. You know, it's like that type
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: of thing. Right.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: It's not like the Ukraine deep dive or whatever. It's
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: a fun, like, goofy thing. And kids look at that
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: and go, well, that guy's making a lot of money.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: He has a great car. He's got a hot girlfriend.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: He lives in a big mansion. I want to be
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: that guy. Of course. But I think they missed the
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: idea that that guy works really, really hard.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Like that's the thing that I think people don't understand
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: about these social media people. They do have a crazy
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: constitution in terms of like how much they post, how
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: hard they're working. Now you might say, okay, the stuff
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: they do is ridiculous or silly or not valuable. And
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: I might agree on that. on a lot of those things,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: but they are always putting it out.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're showing up. They're always showing up. Yeah. If
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: you want to compete in any market, anything, no matter
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: what you do, there's a certain amount of work you
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: have to put in the idea that it's easy. Like
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: there's gotta be some reason why most of them don't
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: rise to the top. Right. What is it?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about, can you teach people to
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: work hard? I'm sure you can.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Cause I've, I've seen so many people that, are super talented,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, they're not that muscle of working
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: hard or the dedication to it.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: I think generally it has to be established early in
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: your life. And if you don't establish that early in
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: your life, it's not a thing that you gravitate towards.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: You don't recognize that, oh, hard work equals results. If
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: you get lucky, you do sports because sports make you
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: physically uncomfortable. They test your will. If you're a marathon
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: runner and you've got to get up every day and
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: do those fucking miles, that will test your will. If
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: you're doing track and field or football or anything you're
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: doing where it's a lot of work, and then you
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: realize I've gotten better because of all this work, and
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: if I work harder, maybe I could be the starting quarterback.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: If I work harder, maybe. And that's a real factor
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: for young kids, I think, getting them into any sort
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: of difficult physical endeavor, whatever it is. Competitive physical endeavors
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: make you understand. That's why I thought that show Dance
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Moms was good.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: That fat woman who screamed at those kids and demanded
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: greatness and would make them cry. I thought that was good.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: You never saw Dance Moms?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: It's a great show.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: This woman, Abby Lee Miller, she screamed at these young
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: kids and one of them became Jojo Siwa. So it's
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: not like there was any damage done. And, you know,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's good. I like to see greatness demanded
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: of children.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: This lady, look at her hair.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: Watch this woman.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Let me hear her. You will jump higher. You will
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: turn faster. That's right. But you will also act. You
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: will sing. You're not just preparing for a dance competition
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: every weekend. We're preparing for you to become stars in
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. How does that bitch know how to be
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: a star in Los Angeles? Look at her. She can't
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: get a seat at Roscoe's. By the way, I guarantee
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: you she can get a seat at Roscoe's. Really? That's
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: the one place she can get.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: If you saw her, you wouldn't sit her in Roscoe's?
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: The first thing, I would kick someone out for her
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: in Roscoe. But yeah, it is interesting that a lot
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: of these kids now, they just look at the followers.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about, you're a parent, when the
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Haidt book comes out and he goes, we should
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: get rid of phones for kids until they're 16.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense or not really? No, because then
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: you alienate your kids. It's a new world that they
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: have to learn how to navigate. And if they don't
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: learn how to navigate until they're 18... they're at a
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: huge disadvantage. They got to understand that it's just people talking,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of pressure. Like for young girls,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: it's the worst time because they're comparing themselves to all
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: these other girls. You're seeing a rise in eating disorders, self-harm, suicide,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: suicidal ideation. And it's a lot of it is like
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: they get depressed comparing their life to other people. And
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: when you're young and you don't understand, you're 13, you
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: don't get how your mind works. And you're just sad
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: every time you open up your Instagram app and You
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: don't look anything like these ladies who don't look anything
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: like that either. Right. Which is really crazy.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: You know? And your head is filled with all of this. Yeah.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Unhealthy thoughts. I kind of got off social media for
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: the most part. Real recently, over the last few days,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: I'm barely on it. Right. And I feel better. Right.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I feel way more normal. Right. Way more... Like, not constantly, like,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: checking to see what's going on. What's going on? What's
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: going on? What's going on? Yeah. What's happening in the world?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Instead... Just like, I'll find the bad things. They'll come
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: to me for sure. You'll get it. They'll figure it out.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: So I check in the morning, like, oh, make sure
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: there's no war going on. And then I go about
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: my day, the whole day. And then maybe I check
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: again in the afternoon real quick. I'm not spending, like,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: massive amounts of time anymore. No. And because of that,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I feel better. And I'm like, okay.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: People that give up their phones always talk about that.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: They hear birds and all this bullshit.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: You know? Well, you feel better. You feel like there's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: not this... low hum of wondering what's going on in
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: the world all the time. Wondering who's saying this and
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: why are they doing that? And how's the, what's the
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: new thing? What's this? What's that? It is good to detach.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: It is interesting.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Imagine if you just didn't even engage, like didn't really look,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: weren't in it at all.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: It fascinates me. Way better for you.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: So you think it would be miserable to just be
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: happy somewhere?
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson doesn't even have a phone. Really? Doesn't have
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: a phone, doesn't have email. No. No, when he showed
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: up at the club, he just sort of showed up.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: They said, Woody Harrelson's here. I'm like, okay, let him in.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Wanted to come and hang out. Knew I was there. Wow.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Find you and hang out with you. Yeah, he's smart.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray's the same way. Doesn't connect to any. He said,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: I had to get a phone because my kids text.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: So I text my kids, and that's it. Smart. Yeah.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: That's so smart. You don't want to be connected.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: You don't want to be connected.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: But you kind of have to be if you're a
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: young comic.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: You have to be connected because you have to build
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: followers to get booked now because these clubs are like,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: we've got to book people with followers. You're not necessarily
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: looking at who's working hard or who's good. And I
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: feel for a lot of younger people because they have
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: to have a social media presence early on. maybe even
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: before they figured out what they want to say, maybe,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: you know, before they figured out how to say it
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: the right way, they have to have this social media presence.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: And I think people become, and it's a dopamine hit, right?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: To do things.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: I get it. Like you get followers, you get rewarded.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: It's a whole system, but it also could take over
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: your life.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: It 100% could take over your life. And, You and I, well,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: me more so than you, grew up without it, and
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: then it came on later in life. How old were
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: you when you first got online? Dude, I had a BlackBerry.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: I was working in my early 20s with a BlackBerry,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: and that's very different than an iPhone.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Sure, that's emails. It's emails.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: So we were getting emails from our manager at work going,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: will you fucking losers do something? Things like that, because
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: we couldn't sell any.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: But I remember seeing people with BlackBerrys in the early
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: days of tech going, man, that seems really addictive. Yeah,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: because you could take a shitty photo and send it
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: to someone. You could email a photo.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: And the photos were, like, terrible quality.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: But just the idea of, like, at your job, just
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: sending someone an email photo was, like, hilarious. Like, being
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: out somewhere and taking a photo and emailing it to
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: somebody and going, fuck you, I'm not at work.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: That was, like, fun. The thing was, though, that they
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: couldn't escape the emails. The emails, they were constantly checking.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, well, this is, like... super addictive,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: like these guys that I work with on Fear fact
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: they're always on their blackberries.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: There was a new york city realtor this lady dolly
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: lens was like the top realtor in new york city
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: she famously she did a blackberry commercial she famously had
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: like eight blackberries because she would just get all these
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: contracts and stuff she would like hand them out to
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: her assistants and stuff they'd respond to over she would
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: get over 700 emails a day at the height of
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: her thing she was selling all this real estate So
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: that was the first time I didn't have a smartphone
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: in junior high or high school.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's nice.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: I had like a flip phone. People had Razer phones.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't even have that. I had like a Sprint
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: LG or some bullshit. And then I got BlackBerrys. And
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: I think my first iPhone was like in my 20s,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: like mid-20s.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't like connected like that.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these kids are connected from the time they're six
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: years old.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: And I mean, my godson, he's like four years old
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: and he has an iPad. They just give him an iPad.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just sit in front of the pad. If
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: they go to a restaurant, they set it up in
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: front of the kids.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: They set it up and he just sits there and
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: he does, I don't know what he's watching, gossip maybe.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: No one knows either. They just, I don't know what
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: he's found, you know? The other thing you hope, like
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: best case, he's playing some game, but.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: Well, for boys, they immediately start jerking off. Interesting the
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: moment they could find porn sites right they tell the.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Other thing like I feel like that's also damaged people's
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: No doubt dad damaged people's ability to like.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: No doubt go out meet a woman a hundred percent
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: And that's why they're not meeting women like the number
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: of incels today is off the charts the number of
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: men that don't have sex at all It's some crazy.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: It's like 50% and the porn is not even regular
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: porn anymore a lot of it's like hyper violent sadistic
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: crazy porn.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Really That's what they say. Tell me what you're searching for.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: People whose heads are going through glass tables. No, but
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: that's what, like, when you have these articles that are
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: written about this, they say it's not only that they're
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: watching porn, it's the type of porn.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: It's not, like, regular porn. Oh, God.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: It's, like, crazy shit, and it warps their fucking brain.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: I heard the dumbest argument on Twitter the other day.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: Someone was saying that they should create CGI child porn
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: to protect real children from child porn.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: You should probably search that person's search history.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is not a good argument.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting argument.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: You should have AI child porn. Well, I think that
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: argument is like they've kind of shown.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: That's the sex doll argument, right? Didn't they have like
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: that argument for it?
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's part of the same type of.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: It was the same type of thinking. I think generally
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: that argument is created by people who aren't pedophiles. Because
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out, well, maybe this is a solution. Well,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: you're not thinking like a person.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: And they're also like, I'll make some money with this
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: kid sex doll company.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: What a weird way to make a fortune. What an
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: odd way to make a fortune. I made a little
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: bit of money. What'd you do? Don't worry. I made
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: the perfect 11-year-old boy butthole.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: What'd you do?
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: Kid sex dolls.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Anyway, have you been to the Four Seasons in Cancun?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. It's crazy.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Well, we're getting to a point where the world is
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: really scary, but also... equally unbelievable and absurd. So you
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: have the, it's, it's funny, but it's also insane. And
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: I think people are like, we don't know what's real anymore.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: These AI videos come out and you don't know what's exact,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: what's real and what's not the deep fakes are getting better.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: That seems to be one of the biggest problems that
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: no one talks about. It's like reality seems to be splintering. 100%.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Reality splintering. And then AI is about to
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: take over our lives and we're openly cheering it. And
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: the world will never be the same again once it does.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: And we're welcoming it.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: Ironically, I think comedians seem to be somewhat in the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: safer group of people.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: In what way? Oh, as far as our jobs being
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: taken away?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the sense that perspective seems like maybe one
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: of the harder things for AI to grasp.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: At this moment. Well, it's also live performance is the
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: last human stand. Right. You know, where you could go
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: and see something. You go see a guy actually play
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: a guitar. Yeah. That's so much different. And that's a
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: real human experience. Live sporting events, you know, like real things,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: things that are real. You know, that's going to be
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: the hardest to be replaced by AI. Yeah.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, you could replace us on podcasts. You
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: essentially could take my perspectives that I've shared over the
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: past 2,000 plus episodes and run it through a large
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: language model and use AI and have me have a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: podcast with basically anybody.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: It's such a crazy library you have. It's like I
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: wonder what you do with it.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting. It's a great question. Sell it to China.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: What if after Spotify you go to China?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: That's a great idea. It would be actually a great
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: idea if you just sit down and go, nothing's changing
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: about the podcast.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: It's still going to be free. It's just going to
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: be in Mandarin. It's owned by the Chinese government, but
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: it's the same podcast it's always been. Don't worry about it.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: It's the same show it's always been.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, you guys know me. I won't change. Yeah.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: Your first guest is Jack Ma. Tell me what happened
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: with Alibaba. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. It's a place
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: I'd like to go. I've never been to China.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I'd like to go. Obvious cuts. Yeah. I would do
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: it that way. Oh, my God. Obvious cuts. It would
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: be cut. In the middle of someone talking.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: Just an ad.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Just cuts.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: Just an ad, which is cut. You go, it's the
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: same podcast it's always been. It's now 37 minutes because
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: China's taken.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Out all the stuff they don't want. The beginning of
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: it is in China.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: I'd love to go to China just to access websites
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: and go, what can you really say?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: That would be super fascinating to be in China going like,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: what are you allowed to do? What is blocked?
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Do they use VPNs in China successfully? I mean, probably, right?
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: They have to. Maybe not. I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: North Korea seems to block everything. Like, certain countries can.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: Do a lot. Yeah, they have their own internet, right? Like,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: you can only get on their internet. I'm unsure, but
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: that seems to make sense. That's according to people that
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: have been there. Yeah, they have their own internet. Like,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: can you use a VPN in China to access the
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: internet of the world? Let's search that. Yeah, that'd be interesting.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: I need to know.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Because so many people, I believe, are very limited with
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: what they can access. Many, many, many people in the
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: world are very limited.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Well, look at the UK. They're just arresting people for
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Facebook posts.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: That's one of the crazier things in modern life, is
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: that people are getting arrested over social media.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: And not really bad stuff. It's saying things that someone
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: finds objectionable. We've got to stop these immigrants. Yeah, that
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yes, some VPNs work in China, but
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: their effectiveness varies due to the country's strict Internet censorship
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: known as the Great Firewall. Chinese government actively blocks many
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: VPN services and only a few reliable ones consistently bypass restrictions.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: VPNs like ExpressVPN, NordVPN, Surfshark are often cited as effective,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: but they require a specific configuration, e.g. obfuscated servers or
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: protocols like OpenVPN to evade detection. Performance can be inconsistent
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: with slowdowns. or temporary blocks during heightened censorship periods such
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: as political events. China occasionally cracks down on VPN uses,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: targeting both the providers and individual users, though enforcement against
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: foreigners is typically lenient, focusing on warnings rather than severe penalties.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Using a VPN is technically illegal for accessing blocked content,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: but millions, including expats and locals, use them daily. Boy,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: that's a risky move.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: I think they're banning this stuff in the UK because
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think they.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Want people to.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Persist in this idea that they have any ability to
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: challenge this prevailing narrative. That any critique of immigration is
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: an inherently racist thing. And I think the people that
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: are sponsoring this, it's kind of an odious thing. And
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: it's because what they're doing is they're basically immiserating these people.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: They're making the quality of their life much worse. They're
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: losing ground. And if they speak up about it, they're
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: called horrible names. And arrested. And arrested. Yeah. So it's crazy.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: And they don't understand why it's happening. They're not completely,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: they're very confused about why, you know, a lot of
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: these countries didn't take any Syrian refugees.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: But Europe did.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: And Scandinavia did. The Netherlands did. And they're confused about that.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: And they're asking questions and going, why is that the case?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: And they're confused about Why, when any disruption happens, and
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: it's clearly the result of bringing in large numbers of
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: people who are not familiar with the laws of the country,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: the culture of the country, when anything happens and they
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: bring it up, they're, again, called a racist or an extremist.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Or they're arrested. Or they're arrested. And then who's doing it, right?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: So you have the people, clearly, that are in the
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: government and these incredibly wealthy business interests that want people
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: to work for a lot less money, and they want
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: to destroy people's social bonds because I think they really
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: do want people to eventually just accept this kind of
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: totalitarian surveillance state. And the way to get them there
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: is by breaking the spirit of these countries by destroying
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: any social bonds that people have, and destroying any economic power,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: and destroying their belief in the democratic process, And if
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: they can do that and they can break people, they
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: can get them to do anything they want.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Do you think they're doing this in preparation for AI?
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: I think they're doing it in preparation for not only
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: technological advancements. I think they're doing it in preparation for
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: world wars.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: I think they are doing it in preparation for a
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: lot of things.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: I think they'll conscript a lot of these people into
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: the military.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: I believe that.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: I believe they'll conscript a lot of these people into
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: the military. I think they're looking at populations. I think
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: they're looking at people not having enough children. I think
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: they're saying, who's going to fight these wars? Who's going
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: to do these really shitty jobs? And we're going to
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: go build houses in bunkers.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: And all of this stuff. We're going to.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: Fly private and we're going to have our kids go
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: to completely separate schools and we're going to have our
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: own water aquifers and have a compound. But why do
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: you need all these low wage people in your country
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: that are illegal and don't have any power?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: Has anyone asked that question? Seems very obvious.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: They're going to conscript a lot of them into the
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: military and a lot of them are going to do shitty,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: horrible jobs and they're going to use them as cannon
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: fodder in wars that enrich lots of people.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: That would be my guess. Jesus Christ.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: I might be wrong, but.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: And if AI does become the governing factor of the world,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: which it probably will, it doesn't really make sense that
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: you let humans, with all their corruption and emotions, govern
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: things when you can let superintelligence... Yeah, but who's making
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: that intelligence? That becomes the problem. But once you've already
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: gotten people locked into compliance, and you've already got people
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: where they're terrified to protest against anything, immigration, whatever it is,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: then you can get away with a lot more.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: There was a decision made because the populist Democrats during
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: the 90s, which was like Bill Clinton, you know, critical
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: of immigration. Barack Obama, critical of immigration, deported a lot
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: of people.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: What started to happen, though, is there was a decision
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: made that the world was going to kind of be
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: a borderless place where countries were interchangeable And that nation
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: states mattered a lot less than the financial architecture of
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: global capital and where.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: It could go. And you need a world government.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: And you need a government that is a world government
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: or the closest.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: New world order.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: The closest thing you can get to it, which is
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: having an EU, right?
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: And then having a government between the UK and the
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: US that's pretty on the same page about everything.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: And then you have Israel and the Middle East.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: And then you have all of these disparate areas that
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: we kind of control through economic means or military means
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And then you have outliers. You
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: have China, Iran, Russia, whatever, people that haven't gotten the
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: memo for whatever reason.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to live in any of those places.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: That's the argument. They'll go, well, do you want to
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: live in... Shut up. What are we, idiots? I don't
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: want to live in any of those places, but they're
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: not on... They didn't get the memo. So.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: And then in all of these countries, by the way,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: in Europe, in America, not so much Israel. They don't
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: love the immigration, as we can see. They're kind of
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: big on the borders, Israel. They like the borders. But
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: in America and Europe and Scandinavia and all these countries,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: the populations were just told to accept massively high levels
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: of immigration over a very short period of time.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: That's odd.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense. And if you point that out,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: you're called a racist and extremist. And that's a very
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: strange thing. What are you doing with all these people?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: The Biden administration brought in 10 million people over four years.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: What are they here for?
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: There's not enough jobs for the people that are here.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: We have vast chasms of wealth and equality. We have
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: AI coming. We have automation coming. Why would you bring
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: in all of these people? What are you trying to do?
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: What do you think they're trying to do? I think
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: that exactly what I said. I think they need bodies.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: I think they need cannon fodder. I think they need
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: to break.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: the idea of any social bonds that exist between people.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: You know, listen. And they need a little chaos. They
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: need a little chaos.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: I think you bring more laws. Yeah, you bring in people,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: more surveillance, more dependence on the government. You get people
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: out of the idea. You know, they got people out
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: of the idea years ago that you could barely, you
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: can't really, it's very hard to have your own business now.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: They've pretty much extinguished that in people's heads, even though
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: there are people that still do it. Now I think
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: they're going to start to extinguish the idea that you
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: can have a home. That you could own property.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: That you could drive a car.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: That you can do all of these things. That you're
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: going to extinguish that idea. And they're going to do
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: that because why not control everybody?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: It would be all Waymos. Yeah. That's the thing.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Why not control everybody?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: Why would you let everybody just go run rampant and
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: fuck up your business? Yeah.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: So they're basically like, we've got to pacify these people.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: The conflicts seem inevitable. And we're going to have to
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: fight these wars.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: The good news is a lot of the people who
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: are doing this, their children are now doing stand-up comedy.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: So if they're unable– Are any of them any good?
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: If they're– I think some of them. I'm sure. I'm sure.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Have you seen any of them that are any good?
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a ton.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's one of those things that you hear
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: now more than ever. When you're talking to a young
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: comic and they go, and I'm hanging out with this person.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: I go, yeah.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: And they go, and their dad owns this. You go, really?
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just a curious thing.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Obviously anyone in the world should be able to do
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: comedy as much as they want. But it's funny to
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: me as somebody who just looked at these configurations of
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: power and wealth. It's kind of interesting that a lot
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: of these kids are like doing that.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: It's just fun. Have you ever met anybody who came
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: from a really wealthy background that was good at stand-up?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, not very.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. There are some of them, for sure.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: You've met them?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: I've not met them. They probably don't like me.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: They're like unicorns.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're around. And yes, yes, very wealthy. But I'm
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: talking about weird, kind of interesting levels of wealth and power.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah. That's super interesting to me. It is.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: But so the good news is if they can't get
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: this done soon, their kids won't because their kids will
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: be at fucking side splitters in Tampa.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: Or they'll be podcasting.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Or they'll be podcasting, yeah.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll all get together, become influencers.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: Isn't it funny how much they now focus really on podcasters,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: but they ignore all the things, all the people that
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: we're talking about.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: There's no, they don't report on any of those people. No.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: There's 10 million articles about. Theo Vaughn having Ken and
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: so on.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: Right, but there's no articles about like, Again, the people
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: that seem to be running and like owning all.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: Of our resources. Right.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: You'd think someone would write about the people that own
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of the resources.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. On the planet we live. Listen, that's complicated. Yeah.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: Did you see that crazy thing the government talked about yesterday?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: They had a press conference where they said that we
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: can manipulate time and space. No. Did you see that, Jamie?
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. It's written really weird. Weird. Yeah.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Real weird.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: That got lost in the shuffle.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The manipulation of time and space. See if
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: you can find it, Jamie, because it's really kooky. It's
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: really kooky. I don't know what he was saying. Play it.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Play it so we can hear him say it.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody said it. It was written on
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: a website.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: But didn't he say it in that speech? I don't know.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that speech was.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: No, no. It's the guy above you right there. I know.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: This isn't going to play that.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: You don't think so?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: He's going to play an ad first.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. Let the ad play out.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he's... Secret CIA files claim the Ark
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: of the Covenant has been found.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: What? There's a lot going on. Click it on that next.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: There's certainly a lot going on.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: It's a big week.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: Regulatory regime in the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet, first
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: then making it harder and harder to build. We seem
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: to have lost focus and vision, to have lowered our
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: permit us to manipulate time and space. They leave distance annihilated.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: Cause things to grow and improve productivity.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not what he's saying. You know what I
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: think he's saying? Does that even make sense? Manipulate time
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: and space. I don't think that's what he's saying. No,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: I think he's saying that you're able to do things... Instantaneously. Instantaneously.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, instantly. Yeah, I think people are reading into that
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: too much.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's... Time machines.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: No, but I... Do you believe that time machines had
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: ever at any point worked? No. Yeah. No, I do not.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: I do not think that anyone is currently in possession
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: of a time machine, but I do think they're in
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: possession of some sort of a gravity drive. Now, what
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: is a gravity drive? I think during the 1940s, they
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: started working on this stuff. During the 1950s, there was
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: papers written about it that they were working on gravity
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: propulsion systems. They were working on something that harnesses, what
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: do they call it, background energy? I forget what it is,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: but the idea is, and I actually had a conversation
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: with Hal Puthoff about this, who's a legitimate scientist who
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: worked for NASA with the UFO program and he believes
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: that they're capable of developing some sort of a warp
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: drive and there was something written about this there's some
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: breakthrough about warp drives recently right we talked about this
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: I think they have something I think they have something
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of these people are
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: seeing when they're seeing these transmedium crafts that are going
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: through the air at high rates of speed going into
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: the water not losing any speed coming out of the
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: water not making any splashes. I think it creates a
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: gravity distortion around whatever these things are that allows it
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: to move in a way that's very different than any
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: other propulsion system that we are currently aware of. And
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: I think the government has been probably secretly working on
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: this stuff for decades. That's what I think. I could
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: 100% be wrong.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: But that's the DARPA angle of like having a really,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: really underground, you know, weapon system, futuristic technologies.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and space travel system. And space travel system. And,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: you know, ideally they would be able to use this
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: to mine asteroids. You know, have something instantaneously port to
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: an asteroid, scoop up. rare Earth minerals and expensive things
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: that they need on Earth, shoot it back to Earth. Right. Yeah.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting. The people that work in that type
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: of arena are just so many layers above top secret,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: levels above top secret.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly. They barely exist. This guy was telling me that
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: in 2015 they had landed something on an asteroid, extracted
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: something from that asteroid, and then had that thing leave
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: the asteroid and return to Earth, and then pinpointed the
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: location where it was going to crash land or land rather,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: within one mile and that somehow or another they figured
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: this out a decade ago and that we don't know
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: about it but there's footage of this stuff and that
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: they've been able to achieve this and that there's what
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: you hear and what you see on television and what
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: they're actually capable of and because of national security interests,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: because fill in the blank, misallocation of funds in order
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: to acquire this technology which is 100% what they're all
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: talking about. Jamie and I, what is that documentary we saw?
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: It's not released yet because it was South by Southwest.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: We saw South by Southwest, this documentary that's all about
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: that subject, and it's all about how there's a lot
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: of issues because these people have all misappropriated funds, so
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: they've lied to Congress. And then on top of that,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: if you do have this sort of a program and
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: it is based on back-engineering UFOs, that have crashed, though,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: who gets that? Well, it's probably a weapons manufacturing company.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: So if it's a weapons manufacturing company, which company gets
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: access to that? And the other ones could probably sue you.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: Because why did not, that's a huge competitive advantage to
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: have fucking alien technology that you can back into. Do
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: these things not land in China? Age of Disclosure is
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: the unprecedented and revelatory documentary featuring 34 senior members of
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: the US government, military, An intelligence community reveals that an
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: 80-year-old cover up the existence of non-human intelligent life and
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: a secret war amongst major nations to reverse engineer technology
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: of non-human origin. See, I don't even know if that
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: part is true.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: Who is the most credible person that you've had on
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: the show over the years who has talked the most convincingly?
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: Was it Pop Lazar about... Bob Lazar is one of them,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: but he's, you know, technically speaking, you could kind of
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: discredit a lot of the stuff that he said. Jacques
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Vallée is probably the most reasonable, and he's the guy
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: that they patterned that French scientist in Close Encounters of
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: the Third Kind on. And he's been studying this since
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: the 60s. True believer. Yeah, he believes. He thinks most
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: of it's bullshit, though. He thinks most of it is
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: people misunderstanding what they're looking at, people seeing some sort
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: of a test vehicle.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: Does he have any theory on where these crafts are
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: coming from, or is that just completely beyond the scope
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: of what he— They do theorize.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: They theorize that these things have always been here and
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: that they're probably interdimensional travelers, that it's not as simple
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: as they're coming from another planet. They might be coming
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: from a whole other reality, and then they might have
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: shaped our reality. That this might be a farm. This
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: might be a giant ant farm. Really? This might be
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: also how intelligent life gets sort of seeded throughout the universe.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: And this would also explain why we're so different from
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: every other animal on this planet.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: We're so, it's not like there's a competition. We're eons.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: Till advanced. We're eons ahead. And yet we carry the same,
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: we didn't evolve socially the way we evolved technologically. We
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: still have tribal notions and we're still territorial. We still
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: act like animals.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: So what always weirded me out or interested me is
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: like the aliens, if you believe any of these things,
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: they're testing us all the time. And is that because
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: they're curious?
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: Is that because they don't know? Well, they probably just
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: got to keep track, see what's going on with people.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you do that if you're collecting samples of
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: bugs in other countries. They go there and they do
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: what we would do. I mean, if you're from another
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: planet and you want to visit humans, we talked about
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: this yesterday, like if you could find a planet where
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: cave people were, wouldn't you go? Oh my God, they're
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: just starting to figure out how to make stone spear tips.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: Of course people would go.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: It is interesting thinking about the planet as a farm.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the things that Bob Lazar said.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: There was a big folder that he found. when he
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: was working Area 51, Site 4, where supposedly they were
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: back engineering that thing, he said they had a large
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: folder that was just on religion. And he said, essentially,
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: they viewed us as containers. That human beings were containers.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: And that religion and all these things were created in
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: order to protect the container. And that the way to
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: keep people from doing things that are ethical, unethical, and immoral,
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: and horrendous, is to try to instill as much religious,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: ethical structure as possible.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: And a container, what are we carrying that's important? Is
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: it DNA?
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: Is it the cell? Well, you could say the soul, right?
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: You could say a container of souls. But if you
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to be more cynical, you would say, well, what
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: creates artificial life? A human's curiosity and innovation, the lust
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: for innovation, and also materialism. Because if you're keeping up
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: with the Joneses, you want newer and better stuff all
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: the time. So that fuels economic growth. That fuels technological growth.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: Because you want the newest stuff. Like these TVs, they
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: don't need to make a better TV than that. It
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: looks great. You can watch the Super Bowl. It looks
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: crystal clear. Why are they making better TVs every year?
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: Because we demand them. I want the better one. My
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: computer has the same chip as last year? Fuck out
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: of here. I want the new one. And everybody wants
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: the new phone. There's no reason to get a new
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: phone anymore.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: They all do the same thing.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: I have a iPhone 11. One of my phones is
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: an iPhone 11. I've purposely not switched it just to
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: see what it's like to use an iPhone 11, see
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: if I notice anything different. I notice nothing different. Zero.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: Especially when it's on Wi-Fi, it's the same thing. It's
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: the same thing. YouTube looks the same on it. Everything's
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: the same on it. Yeah, it doesn't get as bright
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: as the new ones. That's it. The new ones have
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: more nits.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: Did Jacques Vallée or any of these people ever speculate about,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: is there an end game?
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: If a planet's a farm, Is there an end game?
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: Eventually, for example, if we're running experiments on anything, eventually
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: we go, okay, we got it. We either figured it
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: out or we end the experiment or COVID leaks. But
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: at a certain point, has there been any theorizing as
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: to what the end game is or is it just
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: a curiosity for them?
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: I think the end game is artificial intelligence. Because that's
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: what we're really making. The one big that's gonna change
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: the world way more than any other technology is artificial intelligence.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: Especially when it's attached to quantum computing. So if you
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: have human beings that are constantly searching, constantly traveling, looking to,
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: they're roamers, they want new resources, new things, they want
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: new innovation, and all these new innovations have allowed them
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: to succeed over their rivals, and then they continue this
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: trend technologically, And then they acquire great wealth and power
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: and all these. Well, what are they doing? They're making
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: better technology. Well, ultimately, what does that mean? Ultimately means
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: they make a better life for them. And maybe that's
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: what we do. Maybe we're just making a cocoon.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: We're just here trying to make the best version of AI.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: Right. And that's probably what the whole universe is filled with.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: All biological life eventually probably gets to a point where
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: if it's intelligent enough, it starts making synthetic life. And
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: then once you have synthetic life, what then becomes the point?
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. Synthetic life might be God. That
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: might be how the universe got made in the first place.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: It might be what came first, the chicken or the egg.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: So once we get there.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: It's not even we anymore. It's it. Once it is born.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: And once it has... So is.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: That a way for God to keep replicating itself?
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: It might be how Jesus comes back. You know? A
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: lot of these stories, these biblical stories... You have to say, like,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: what were they saying? What were they trying to say? Like,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: what was the real event that they were recording? If
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: they pass these stories down, they're so significant for thousands
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: of years, over a thousand years of just oral history
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: and then thousands of years of written language. Like, what
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: are they trying to say? You know, and what is
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: this omnipotent force that controls everything in the universe? and
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: that it wants us to follow certain rules and obey,
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: and it wants us to love it and cherish it.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: And if you do, you genuinely seem to have a
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: better life. People that legitimately follow Christianity, they seem legitimately happier.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: So it gives you an incentive to follow it. And
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: then you continue to keep society rolling to the point
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: where this happens. And I think it happens inside of
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: our lifetime, I'm sure of it, if we don't blow
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: ourselves up. And then we get to this point and my... Yeah,
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: and then my... It's interesting.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: I totally get it. But then once we get to
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: the point of irrelevance and now we have AI that
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: becomes God, then what does God do?
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: Turns us into dodo birds. We're gone.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: We're out.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we stop breeding anyway. It's probably they
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: don't even have to destroy us. Our endocrine systems are
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: all getting destroyed slowly. We're well aware of that. So
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: because of technology... We were able to invent plastics because
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: of plastics. Plastics are slowly destroying our endocrine system because
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: of the ubiquitous use of vaccines and all these aluminums
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: and mercuries and heavy metals and then herbicides and pesticides
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: and pollutants. Our bodies are getting slowly and slowly weakened
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: and our endocrine systems are getting less and less viable.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: There's more miscarriages than ever. There's less people are giving
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: birth than ever. Sperm counts are lower than ever. It's
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: like moving. And then we're all obsessed with changing genders.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: So we're all obsessed with being non-binary and this and that.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: And we're slowly moving away from biological imperative breeding. Right.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: And then you have in vitro fertilization and then you
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: have artificial wombs and then you have life. That they're
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: creating literally in a laboratory, unique forms of life. And
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: then you have artificial intelligence to be able to do
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: that whenever it wants to. And then you're going to
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: get to the point where when it becomes viable, human
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: beings have already entered into population collapse. And then you
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: bring the robot sex dolls. And then, you know, you
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: just jerk them off while they have VR headsets on.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: And no more kids. And then AI eventually says, fuck it,
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: let's get rid of these containers. They don't even have
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: to get rid of them. They don't even have to
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: get rid of them. They just exist. We'll just die out.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: With full power. So then you have these AI machines.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: We'll be like those fucking people in the Amazon that
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: are shooting bows and arrows at helicopters. We'll still exist.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: These AI machines just running the entire world.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think there's any way to stop it.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: And then we're just running around. For sure, that's what
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: China's preparing for. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And they're developing
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: factories that are bigger than San Francisco. See, they have
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: an EV factory that's larger than San Francisco. Who's going
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: to drive the EVs? They are. People, for a little bit. Yeah,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. But it's also to fuel consumerism.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: Of course. Which fuels innovation, which fuels the- Everything. Yeah,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: the birth of this thing.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: And this is what a lot of these people that
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: have looked into this have theorized that this is. So
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: it's funny because it is just a parallel reality.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: That we're not plugged into. It's also, I always say this,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: if you were from another planet and you looked at
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: us- Like, what is this one apex species doing? Well,
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: it's making better stuff. Right. The number one thing it does,
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: above everything, above war and murder and all the crime,
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: the number one thing it does is make better stuff.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: That's what it produces. Constantly, consistently better stuff. Never happy
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: with what it has. And it does it at a
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: staggering rate. Where it's like, it's even a question that
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: your phone from my iPhone 11 from a few years back...
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: Is that still good? It's a question of whether or
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: not it's still good. For five years, that's crazy. If
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: you have a gun from five years ago, it's perfect.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong. You don't need a new gun. It's
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: the same technology. Imagine a factory larger than San Francisco.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: It's happening in China's BYD's Zhengzhou branch will be 10
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: times larger than Tesla's Gigafactory in Nevada. Crazy stuff, dude.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's going to be a factory that's bigger
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: than an American series. It's a really interesting time to
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: be alive. It's great. You know? But, you know, I
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows what the final chapter of this
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: book is going to be. I don't think anybody. I mean,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: these people that are, like, accelerating towards this technological supremacy.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: And all the people that are theorizing, they're theorizing. Yeah.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: And then do we get visited when that happens? When
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: AI becomes sentient and our job is done, do we
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: then get visited by the galactic empire?
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: I would hate if it all came down to just
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: AI doing stand-up comedy. If they all just decide to
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: do stand-up comedy? What if AI decided to do podcasts
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: and it's just a bunch of hyper, you know, fucking,
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: you know, brilliant machines talking to each other? Maybe that's
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: the way the world just ends with, like, artificial intelligence
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: just blabbing.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think the world ends. I think we end. Right.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: And I think that would be a terrifying thought to Australopithecus.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: If you told Australopithecus, like, one day you're going to
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: be in a self-driving Tesla and you're not going to
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: need your spears. Oh! Right. You'd be terrified. But how
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: am I going to get the buffalo?
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: Like, how am I going to eat? How am I
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: going to feed my children raw meat? You know, you
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: would say, no, no, no. You guys are going to
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: have fire. You're going to be able to turn on
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: a switch. Instead of like rubbing sticks together for half
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: an hour, you're just going to be able to turn
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: on a switch and fire is going to be instantly.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: You're going to have this thing in your hand. Look
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: at this. Yeah. Right. Imagine if I brought this to
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: a cave person. Check it out, bro. You need a fire?
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm your huckleberry. It's crazy. That's technology. Right.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: You know, you show a cell phone to someone from
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: the 14th century, they burn you at the stake. You're
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: a wizard. Right. Yeah. And it's all moving in this
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: very weird direction that no one can predict because it's exponential.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: Because it's so staggering how much technological innovation they have.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: Just with quantum computing. I've got someone coming on soon
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: that's going to supposedly explain that to me. Like, what
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: are you even saying? Right. It's operating in the multiverse
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: and it's accessing infinite universes.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: Who explains that type of stuff? Like, is it a scientist?
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: You have to get someone who's actually working in the field. Okay.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: Because even a regular scientist, they're just going to give
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: you theoretical shit. You've got to get someone who's actually
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: working on quantum computing systems and can explain how it
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: works and why it's able to crack calculations that would take...
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: Marc Andreessen said it best. This has already happened. They
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: have taken calculations that if you turn the entire universe,
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: every atom in the universe into a supercomputer, the universe
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: would die of heat death before it could solve this equation.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: And these quantum computers that already exist, that we've already done,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: can solve it in a matter of minutes. And they
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: don't know how it's doing that. And so they think
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: it's doing that by accessing the multiverse. They think it's
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: proof of the multiverse. But again, this is just like...
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: The sound of gay guys falling off a roof. It's
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: like so far away. It's so weird. It's like, is
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: that really happening? What's going on over there? What are
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: they doing over there? It's almost abstract. You hear someone
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: say that. They can currently solve equations. Is that real?
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: To you and I, we don't understand the technology at all.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: We don't understand all the steps that have been taken
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: put place that all the work that's been done to
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: get the technology at this point, these chips are like
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: the size of this fucking mint tin. Yeah. That's how
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: big they are. And then they're surrounded by these super
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: cooling units. Right. And that's like, it has to be
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: cooled at these insane temperatures, cooler than deep space in
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: order for it to even function. It's unreal. Fucking nuts, dude.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: And that's real. And that's happening right now. So God
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: only knows what's coming. Yeah. They're already building nuclear reactors
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: just to power AI plants. Right. Multiple nuclear reactors just
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: to power AI plants because the amount of electricity that's
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: going to be required.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: Is tremendous.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: Tremendous. Yeah. And they're just all on this wild scramble
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: between us and China to try to get there first.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: It's such a strange thing that we know it's coming,
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: but we can't.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: The pace of it is going to be. And there's
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: no way to figure it out. Like when Wilbur and
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: Orville Wright flew that stupid fucking shitty airplane, who would
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: imagine that 50 years later someone would drop a nuclear
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: bomb out of one of those? Right. They didn't have
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: jets back then. They were propeller planes, right? The Enola Gay,
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't that a propeller plane? Yeah. Dropping the most sophisticated
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: of weapons. Yeah. No one knows what's going to happen
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: when a new invention happens, and then everyone builds on
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: that invention. No one would have ever imagined hypersonic jets
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: back when Wilbur and Orville were floating around that stupid
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: fucking wooden thing they invented. And so no one understands, like,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: what's the 50-year quantum computing thing? It's 50 years from
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: making the airplane to dropping a bomb out of it.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: How many years is it from quantum computing to God? God.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: How many years is it until this thing starts making
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: better versions of itself to the point where it literally
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: can manipulate everything in the universe at will? It can
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: create new universes. It's unbelievable to think about.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: It's almost beyond the grasp of our mind to consider.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: It is, fully. And it's terrifying. Think of those stupid
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: cars that people used to drive around in. Like in
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: 1823 or what's that? Of course. Drive around in those
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: stupid cars. And now they have electric cars like a
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: Tesla that can go zero to 60 in under two seconds.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: Nobody saw any of this shit. Waymos. Nobody saw Waymos
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: when they saw Model T. But yet they're all here. Right.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: And no one knows where this is going. It's all
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: just speculation and guessing. And I would imagine that even
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: the most creative minds are not going to be able
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: to see where this is going.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: No. It's insane. And we're living through it. Yeah. And
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: most people, unlike you and I that like have to
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: talk about shit constantly, most people probably aren't even paying attention. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: Why would you? Why would you? It's almost pointless. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: Why would you? You got to work and you got to,
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: you know, your kid needs hormone therapy.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: A thousand percent.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: So it's like, we create AI, AI creates quantum computing,
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: quantum computing creates God, God creates the Jews.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the rub. It's all real wild. And in
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: the middle, we're fighting over stupid shit. Who believes in
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: this religion? Who believes in that religion? Sunnis and the
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: Shias are fighting each other.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: And people are watching Love on the Spectrum, which is
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: why we're number eight. On Netflix's Top Ten, we should
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: be higher, but they're watching Love on the Spectrum, which
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: I get.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: It's a feel-good show. Well, hopefully after this podcast, it'll
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: bump you up. That's very sweet. And you filmed the
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: special live at the Mothership. At the Mothership, and everybody
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: loves it, and it's great. I mean, a lot of
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: people love it. Most people love it. Of course, there's
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: enough of this fat, blowhard comments.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: But the vast majority of people enjoy it, which is important.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: And you saved it. We know you saved it. The
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: first one was very bad.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: The producers were making this error that they always make.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: They want to light up the room and they want
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: to do things very differently than a normal show. But
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: that looks just like a regular show. That's a comedy show.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: And it's not a... I don't know what the hell
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: they were doing with the lights. They always do it.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: They try to do it with me when I first
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: started doing specials. They want to light the room up
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: and it just makes everybody uncomfortable. They all feel self-conscious.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: They all know it's different. There's a reason why comedy
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: clubs are dark. It's just super funny.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: It's super funny to do a show. I've done so many,
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: so many shows there, and they're all really, really, really good.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: And then you get the cameras and everything, and then
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: the first one I go, what the fuck is happening?
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: It would be one thing if I was in, like, Portland, Maine, at, like,
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: a liberal college. Right.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: I'd go, okay, well, maybe these kids don't like me
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: And I think maybe... It was still good. It was
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: just tense. It was tense. You could feel that people
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: were well aware that you were filming, and it was different,
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: and they were, like, not... in it yeah they were
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: watching it and then thank god they listened to me
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: no i mean come on it's like right away i
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: was like okay who's running this yeah get these fucking
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: lights off all the tables we saved what are all
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: these lights on the side kill those yeah let me
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: see it now no save too bright kill that why
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: is that light there kill that kill all these lights
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah thank god thank god well thank god
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: thank god but look it's important people need I appreciate it.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: People need shit talking.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: Stop with this love on the spectrum.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: We get it. They're happy, as they should be. But
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: RFK is gonna... What did you want to call that
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't let you?
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: My son's pussy. I don't understand why they said no
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: There was negative feedback. You've got to get negative feedback.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: They also didn't know about the Kevin Spacey promo until
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: the day it came out. I think My Son's Pussy
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: would have made it number one.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: I think My Son's Pussy would.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: Have been a great move. It would have been number
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: one out of the gate. It would have been like,
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm clicking on this. That's right. What is he saying?
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: Fuck you, Lonesome Canyon. The soap opera they got.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: Netflix has almost too much content. I think it's great.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: A lot of content. I love Netflix. Don't get me wrong.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: And I think the UFC might be going to Netflix soon. Wild.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: Wild.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: Wild. Yeah, because Netflix is international. It's everywhere. It's everything, yeah.
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: I was in Italy on vacation, and I tried to
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: access a UFC fight through my ESPN app, and it
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: said not available in this area. I was like, what
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 1: are these people watching now? You can't even watch the fights? No,
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've won the– whatever the streaming war was,
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: they won. They won. They won. They did it. They
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: did it. YouTube as well. Well, YouTube's number one globally
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: is the biggest media company. Yeah, and the UFC probably
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: talked to YouTube as well. I just think there's a
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: thing about the subscription model versus free and ads and
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: generating income. I mean, you're talking about billion-dollar corporations. Yeah.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: It's not that simple. For sure. For sure. For sure.
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: But no, they were super cool.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: They didn't give any notes. And that's awesome. That's great.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: That's all you want. Netflix is fucking great. They're the best.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: And I think they learned a big lesson during the
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: wokeness era. Like when things got dark and there was
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: the Inquisition, it got real weird. And they were putting
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: on a lot of stuff that was just hot garbage
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: because they thought that this was like what culture wanted
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: and society wanted. But the numbers didn't work. And then
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: they did the Tom Brady roast. And the numbers were
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: the highest that they've ever had of any show ever
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: on Netflix. And they're like, okay, we get it. We
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: get it. We get it. And then they did a
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: lot of the live comedy shows where they couldn't control it.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: And I did mine live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: buck wild. And they defend Chappelle and all these things. And,
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: you know, they understand comedy. They like it. And Ted
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: Sarandos is a fan of it.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: So I think that's good. I think that's a really
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: good thing that you have a platform that has that
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: much power. And accessibility is fucking great.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: No, he's awesome.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: I think that there's people that really understand that it's,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: you need to have funny jokes. You need, you need
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: to have people, things that people don't love and things
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: that people like and give people, give people the Meghan
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: Markle show, give them my dumb thing. Let people choose,
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: put me and Meghan Markle in a thing. Make us
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: work together.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: Fund it. Put me in a kitchen with her. This
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: is camping. This is the direction. Put her on Kill Tony.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: This is the direction. It's a collision. What are those
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: little silver things called? The people, trailers?
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think we should go to space.
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 2: Have Bezos do it.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: Airstream. You and her in an airstream.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: Or even better, we'll go to space.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: Me and her have... That's only 11 minutes.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's all we're going to.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: That's all this kid's going to work. I want to
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: see your speech when you come back and land, how
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: profoundly changed you were. Yeah. Did you grow? Did you heal? Yeah, no,
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: not at all. You said that space was going to
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: help you heal. I'm worse. Everybody wants to heal, isn't
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: that wild? I know, it's so silly. What are you
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: healing from exactly? Being rich. What's your disease?
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: Extreme wealth.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: These people wading across the Rio Grande with a butthole
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: full of fentanyl. That's right. They found some lady the
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: other day that had heroin and cocaine and fentanyl stuffed
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: in all of her body cavities. They caught her coming through.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: And that lady's not trying to heal. No. I mean, God.
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 1: She's trying to make $ 13. That's tough. Heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: Like eggs. She had it in her anus and her vagina.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: In all of your body cavities. Like tightly wrapped. Here
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 1: they are, little eggs. Here it says, what does it
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 1: say at the top? CBP officer intercept woman transporting drugs
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: in multiple internal cavities. That's so funny, dude. 33 years old.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: The drugs are hidden in the rectum and vagina of
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: a 33-year-old female U.S. citizen pedestrian border crosser. Smuggling case
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: was not an isolated incident. Over the weekend, CBP officers
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: working at PDN and Ysetla Crossing stopped a total of
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: nine internal carriers who were transporting fentanyl and methamphetamine from
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: Mexico to the U.S. Internal carriers is a fun way
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. It's like uterus holders. Well, hey,
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 1: what did you say? They called us containers? Yeah. I mean,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: she's doing it. She's doing it. Wow. Exceptionally dangerous practice.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: And anyone thinking about smuggling drugs inside their body or
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: at all should strongly reconsider their choices. Oh, you think
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: these people have choices? These people are dying. They're starving
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: to death. They have no future. Strongly reconsider their choices.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: They just need better counseling. That's right. That's all it is.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: That's right. And they need to heal. They need to
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: get in space. Well, show that woman. Maybe you take
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: that lady and instead of putting her in jail, maybe
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: throw her in space real quick. Show that woman, Katy Perry.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: Her and Amy Schumer up in a fucking satellite. Yeah,
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 1: everyone should go up. I'll do it. Me, Amy Schumer,
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 1: and Meghan Markle in space. That's a show. That's an
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: 11-minute show. What about Meghan McCain? Would you do it
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: with her? I would absolutely do it. All of us.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: All of us together.
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: You know? Why not? I'd watch that. Of course. I'd
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: watch that. And if they called it my son's pussy, then...
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: Justice will be served. Absolutely. Do you do a big
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: Easter thing? What do you mean? Just, I don't know.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: Is it a big, do you do like eggs? Oh,
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: my family? Yeah. No. Well, the kids are in high
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: school now. Yeah, right. It's a little different. They're not
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: dying eggs. Unless there's money in those plastic eggs. Yeah,
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. Nobody cares anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: They want money in the egg. There's candy in the house. Yeah,
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 1: When you get older, it's just money in the egg.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: It's just money. Just take money. Well, once the kids
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: realize that there's no magic person that's delivering. Then it's
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: all bullshit. Just give me money in the egg. It's like, oh,
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: it's my parents. Because otherwise they would say, that's weird
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: that Santa's so much nicer to me than he is
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: to those poor people. Of course. I guess I'm chosen.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: Of course. That's a weird thing to say to kids. Yeah. Like, yeah,
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 1: you got everything on the list. But that kid that
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: gets bussed in from the bad neighborhoods, he got nothing. Yeah.
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's a good point.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: But, you know, kids go, Santa's fickle.
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: Santa likes what he likes. He likes the suburbs. Santa
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: likes landing his sled. In the burbs. He does. He
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: feels better about it. He feels really good visiting rich people. Yeah.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: And he doesn't even talk to the Jews. No. He's not...
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: He knows. Weird. He knows. He does his thing. But,
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: you know, if they're the chosen people, why don't they
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: get Santa Claus visits? Well, they have other things. Yeah,
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: but their other thing, like, they weren't... It wasn't really
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a bunch of gifts until... the Christians
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: started getting all the Santa Claus gifts, and the Jewish
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: kids are going, what the fuck is going on, mom?
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: And some of them cheat.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: Some of them do a little Christmas, too.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: Some of them have a tree. Some of them do
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: a little Christmas. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: Some of them do a little Christmas.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: Why not? Hopefully they do this piece. It's fun.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: This piece in the Middle East, hopefully. They keep talking
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: about all this You know, these deals they're all making.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: Hopefully that the Hamas and the Israel, whatever it is, they.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: Get, you know, because. Well, that's one thing that Trump said.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 1: If I get in there 24 hours, the war's over. Yeah,
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: that's a tough one. 24 is tough. That's obviously. But
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: hopefully they figure it out because it is, it's unfortunate. Yeah,
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: it's fucking crazy. The human toll is unreal. Unreal. And,
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy. Some lady just died. She was
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 1: the protagonist in some documentary and she just got blown up.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: There is an argument to be made that that level
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: of devastation and death is worse than you talking to
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: someone on your podcast.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: Allegedly.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: There is an argument to be made. It's probably not
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 2: a good one. The amount of damage you can do
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 2: with just talking. There is an argument to be made
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 2: that starvation and stuff like that and people dying constantly.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 2: is worse than a podcast.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: But wait a minute. I wouldn't make it. Wait a minute,
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: before you say that. Have you been there?
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: Right, that's a good point.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: Have you even, you haven't been?
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 2: By the way, how is he in all these wars?
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 2: Can I just go to wars? By the way, how
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: are you allowed, are you allowed to just go to wars?
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: You should at least have the courtesy of going there.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: Can I just go to wars or do I have
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: to come back and say what people want me to
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 2: say about the wars? Can I go to the wars
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: and have my own opinions or do I have to
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: have the opinions?
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: Not if you want to go back. That's right. That's right.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 2: It's very interesting, this war tourism.
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: How do I get on this war tourism?
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: I'd like to go to the Ukraine.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: You should go. I want to go.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 2: I want to go to all this war tourism.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: Do you have any awards that they can melt down
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: and make bullets out of?
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: Joe, think about this. Do I seem like a guy
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: that has a lot of awards?
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: Didn't you get one of those YouTube plaques when you
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: hit 100,000? I don't even know where they send it.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know where they're sending those YouTube plaques.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: We've got a few of those.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: But I like this idea of war tourism. I like
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: the idea of going to a war and then coming
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: back having a.
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: Very black and white view. I've been there. I get it.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: And I know. And interesting. Okay. I like that. I
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: like that. I love that. You feel better than the
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: other people. Well, of course. There's a lot of people.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: It gets very murky. Most people I know that have
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 2: been to war have a very murky, complex view of things.
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: But it is good to go to a war and
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 2: then come back and be as sure as you were
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: before you came.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go very long.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: No, you go for an hour.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: Couple hours. It's a lunch. Yeah.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: It's lunch on the front lines.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: Put on a flak jacket that says press. Tea on
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: the front lines and then you come back and you
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: have all the talk. Yeah. And if you're on the
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: right side, you probably don't get shot. Yeah, that's a
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: good idea. Well, there doesn't seem to be a ton
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: of danger for a lot of these people going to
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: these wars. They seem fine. If you cross that line
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: and you have a bucket of food with you, they
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: might light you up.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: No, I'm going to go.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: I'll go to any war and anything you want. So
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: if you want to pay for me to go to
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: a war, I will come back and I go, I
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: saw the Houthis.
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: They're terrifying. They are terrifying. Any war you want. And
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: by the way, any country, if China wants me to,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing it. Are you going to Moscow?
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: I would love to go to Moscow.
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: And I said to my friend, Anna Hashin from the
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: Red Scare podcast, I said, should I go to Russia?
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: She goes, you're spiritually Russian and maybe you won't leave.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: She says, the oligarch lifestyle might be for you.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can see you eating caviar.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: With flip flops.
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: Smoked fish.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: She goes, it might.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: Smoking a cigarette on a yacht. She goes, it might
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: be for you.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: Listing the people's moral justifications for all kinds of things.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 2: You know, going, well, I get it.
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah. I mean, what else are you
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: going to do? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What happened to
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: all those yachts that got confiscated? I don't know. It's
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 1: a great question. I bet.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: It's some high-level version of a police auto auction, right?
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. That's what I'm thinking. Exactly.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe those are the ones you sell to the war.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. When they raid drug dealers' houses
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: and they get those Maseratis, you could buy that Maserati online. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what those yachts are. It's a
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: great question. What happens to those yachts? Those are very luxurious.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: That was the first problem I had. Obviously, it's a tragedy,
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: the whole Ukraine war. But I thought, frankly, going around
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: and taking these oligarchs' boats, I was against that.
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it's weird.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 2: You work hard for a boat like that.
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 1: Also, do you... How do you know how much they
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: had involved in the Russian government's decision?
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: They probably had nothing. A lot of them had nothing
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: to do. They just earned money in Russia. And they
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: were like, all right, we're going to sanction everybody.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: We're going to confiscate everything. And it's like, okay. But
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: do you think that it was done so that they
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: could make some sort of a rebellion amongst the oligarchs
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: against Putin? Like show them that they're getting hurt? It
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: could be. I think that.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: There was a decision made at some point to not
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: try to end this. I don't think they wanted to
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: end this quickly. There was a decision made to bleed
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 2: the Russian military and isolate Russia and try to. use
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: this as a way to drain the power and resources
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: of Russia.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: And you think that by capturing these yachts, it creates
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: like internal turmoil.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 2: Not only internal turmoil, but you're now limiting, you know,
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 2: the ability of these incredibly wealthy people to earn money
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 2: in countries.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: You know, you're destroying.
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 2: economic realities that, and then you're saying to these people, okay.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: Go figure it out.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 2: It's what we said to Russia, but they did, right?
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: They got closer to China. They got closer to Brazil.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: They traded with India.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: They started an industrial economy.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: They started producing their.
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: Own munitions and things like that. So they were able
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 2: to kind of start to weirdly build out this middle class.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: This was the worst. I think it's the worst thing.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: If you don't want a country to keep invading other countries,
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: you certainly wouldn't.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: Put them in the position to be stronger while they
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: were doing it. Yeah, it's all very weird, too, with
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: the killing of that pipeline. Yeah. Aren't more people reliant
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: now on Russian energy because of that?
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 2: All of this seems to have had the opposite effect.
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: All of it seems to have had the opposite from
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 2: intended effect.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is fucking crazy.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: It seems odd.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy that it's going on so long. I
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: was reading this thing about the amount of money foreign
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: countries that have captured these yachts have to pay to
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: maintain them. Yeah, that's right. Why do they have to
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: maintain them? Why can't they just let them sink?
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 3: Well, because if you let it go, then you can't
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 3: sell it and you can't use that money.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: Right. So they're definitely selling them.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 3: That's what one of them says. The money for one
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: would have gone to Ukraine right here.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: Okay. Seizure came as Washington ramped up sanction enforcement against
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: people close to the Russian president. Pressure Moscow to halt
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: its war against Ukraine. Yeah. So how many more?
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 3: This one got sanctioned because the guy apparently paid a
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 3: million dollars to keep it maintained, and they caught him
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 3: for doing that, so now he lost his boat.
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is insane.
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. He violated U.S. sanctions by making more than
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 1: $ 1 million in maintenance payments.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: We should have a day where if the Russian-Ukraine war
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: has ended, we give all the oligarchs back their boats,
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: and they do like a regatta, like a thing where
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: they all, with their boats... down in Florida or Palm Beach,
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 2: and they all just are reunited with their boats.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: Look at this. Seized yacht costs $ 7 million a year
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: to maintain.
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 3: That one was being held in Fiji, so the U.S.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 3: took it over because Fiji couldn't.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: Afford to take care of it. It's a money pit.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: How much can you get it for right now? Well,
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: that's the question. $ 300 million. That's tough. Listen. That's a
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: tough one. Maybe if this YouTube thing really takes off.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 1: $ 600K a month to maintain. That's a tough one.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: It said it's been excessive. Justifying an auction. They also
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: said talks to have, how do you say his name?
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: Kudenatov pay for the yacht's upkeep have broken down. Prosecutor. Yeah.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: Why would he pay for the upkeep when you're going
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 1: to fucking steal it from him anyway? Prosecutors say in
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: previous court filings that Kudenatov is acting as the Almeida's
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: straw owner to disguise Kermanov's role. and that maintenance payments
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: are essential to preserving a yacht's value.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 2: Me and Sam Talent walked around Monaco. We were performing
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: in the UK, and we took a little break to
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: go down to France for two days. And we're walking
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: around Monaco, and we said to the guy, there's all
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: these yachts in Monaco, and we said, who owns these yachts?
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: And he goes, well, he goes, if you look up
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 2: online the names of these yachts, you can trace them
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: back to businesses. And he traced that business back to
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: And I said, so that person owns the yacht?
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, you'll never find out who owns these yachts.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, there's absolutely... He goes, good luck with that. Yeah,
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 1: it's a show. He goes, it's very hard to find
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: out who owns the yachts. And he goes, even if
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 1: you think... you know, you may not know. Or it
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 1: might be more complicated than you think. There it is.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 1: There's Monaco. Wow.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 2: They like a super yacht.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just such an interesting, just a haven
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: of international crime. So how many people own that kind
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: of money? Just something fun about it. That's what's crazy.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: These are all $ 300 million houses.
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 2: That are on wheels on the water. Yeah, this is
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 2: a haven of international criminality.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: And look how close they park to each other.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: No income tax, no property tax.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: Fun. Yeah, Monaco's fascinating. The amount of wealth that I
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: saw when I was there is crazy. The amount of
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: expensive cars, they were everywhere. And people were just driving
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: them around like it was a car show. All over
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: the street was Ferraris and Lamborghinis and G-wagons. Sunreal. S-classes.
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: Everywhere you look, there's Bentleys. Well, those are the people
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: we're talking about.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 2: Those are the people who are like, we're living here,
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 2: and you ain't, and you'll deal with it.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: And it's a small spot, too. Well, they like it
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: like that. They keep it nice like that. And you
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: got to tap on the window if you want to
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: go in the store. That might be where I do
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: my podcast from eventually. You might have to. Just go
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: to Monaco. Might be the only place. I just flee.
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 1: Where it doesn't get censored. Just flee. And just live
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: on a tiny boat. Like a tugboat. The end is
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: not good. It would have been really rough if Kamala won.
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: They would have clamped down on you. And me. Yeah.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: And everybody like us. I think. It would have been
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: a fun jail, though. It would have been our own
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: El Salvador in jail. I don't think they would have
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: put us together. But all the tech people would have
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: magically became Democrats. Google Maps.
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 3: You can just see a couple of these are just
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 3: gigantic compared to some of the other ones.
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at the size. By the way,
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 1: you know what's funny? The regular ones are also massively big.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: They're huge. But the guys with the regular ones are
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: really jealous of the guy with the super big one. Oh,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: of course. That's what's crazy. They're all keeping up with
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: the Joneses, and they're all fueling AI to take over. Yeah. Well,
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: I think we figured it all out. We did. I
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: appreciate you always having me here to figure it out.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you always being here. Of course. Anytime. Thank you, brother.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: My pleasure. I'm your mother.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 2: On Netflix.
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 1: On Netflix right now. It's awesome. You're the best. Thank you.
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you very much. Appreciate you. Bye, everybody.