Latest / My Third Place Pod / Episode 128 - GLOW S1E5 - Debbie Does Something
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- 0:47Welcome back myspacers to another fun from Under the Apron
- 0:51episode of Backdrops and Back Lots.
- 0:54I am doing a rewatch of GLOW on Netflix and this as episode 5,
- 1:00which means we are halfway through the end of the season.
- 1:03Season one before I begin with that, the podcast Birthday is
- 1:08coming right up. You know January 2nd.
- 1:12The podcast turns 2 years old, meaning season three will be
- 1:16under way. If any one of the supporters
- 1:19want to leave a few nice words, just hit me up on the e-mail,
- 1:22send me a voice message on Instagram, or just show up on my
- 1:24stream and I will give you the information on where you can go.
- 1:29So let's get to it. This episode is GLOW Season one,
- 1:36Episode 5, the episode is called Devi Does something.
- 1:41We all know that, what that alludes to, right?
- 1:46Right. Yeah.
- 1:48But nothing or anything in particular of this episode has
- 1:52to do with Dallas. And nothing of that sort of
- 1:55thing happens. Well, with the exception of
- 1:59maybe later that night, I don't want to spoil it for you, but I
- 2:04will tell you when we get to it. This episode's writer was Rachel
- 2:09Shergart. She is a producer and writer
- 2:11known for The Babysitter's Club, GLOW, Supergirl and The Hand
- 2:15Man's Tale, Handmaid's, Handmaid's Tale, Way to Ruin.
- 2:21That one director is Phil Abraham.
- 2:25He's best known for Most Dangerous Game, Ozark, Mad Men,
- 2:30episodes of Daredevil, and most recently FUBAR on Netflix.
- 2:38The synopsis? Sam and Bash strike a deal with
- 2:40the local TV station and sponsor.
- 2:43Meanwhile, as Devi struggles to understand wrestling, Carmen
- 2:47brings her and Melrose to a local wrestling show where Devi
- 2:50discovers its similarities to soap operas.
- 2:56The cold open is on Melanie, doing the walk of shame already
- 3:01already. She tries to get up to the door
- 3:05of her hotel room when Cherry approaches, calling out good
- 3:10morning. She curses, claiming she just
- 3:14got back from the gym for a workout.
- 3:16Cherry notes that she's not really wearing a workout outfit
- 3:19and many Melanie claims as a new costume element for Glow.
- 3:24She just trying to break it in. Cherry calls her Rosen.
- 3:28You know Melrose Rosen? Yeah, it OK.
- 3:33She calls her Rosen and tells her that her bull might work on
- 3:36teachers and cops, but not her. She tells her that she's fired.
- 3:40If she breaks curfew again. Melrose asks if they're really
- 3:44still doing the whole Louis Gossett Junior Richter gear
- 3:47thing. She notes that she doesn't see
- 3:50Cherry going up anyone's else's asshole.
- 3:54Cherry says nobody else is irritating her so much and Sam
- 3:56put her in charge. She tells her deal with it.
- 4:00Rosen again, another shot and then she leaves.
- 4:07Melrose whispers under her breath and calls her a fucking
- 4:09anti Semite. The glow lo appears on the
- 4:13screen. All right, so the whole Louis
- 4:17Gossett junior Richard Gere Singh is a nod to the movie An
- 4:21Officer and a Gentleman, which came out in 1982.
- 4:24I know you knew. People are not gonna understand
- 4:27that. But you need to watch this
- 4:30movie. Geer plays Zach Mayo, a young
- 4:34man who has signed up for Navy Aviation Officer Candidate
- 4:37School. He's a Navy brat who has a bad
- 4:40attitude problem. Gossett Junior plays Gunnery
- 4:44Sergeant Emil Foley and he has dared to train and evaluate him
- 4:49and will clearly find Zach wanting to quit.
- 4:53Melrose is alluding to Cherry acting like a drill Sergeant
- 4:56over this, Remembering what Mondo Guerrero has said that he
- 5:01put them all in line and one of them didn't listen so they are
- 5:05possibly referring to this. It might have been Melody,
- 5:08Trouble Vixen or MTV since she's the one that's closer to what
- 5:14Melrose is being a subject too. On August 16th, 2017, The
- 5:22Huffington Post posted AQ and A with Jackie Tone, who plays
- 5:25Melrose, and said. I think truthfully, Melrose is a
- 5:29party girl and she likes to do drugs and likes this drink, but
- 5:33I think she's like a lot of people overcompensating for
- 5:35insecurities by trying to fill voids in her life with fun and
- 5:39partying. She is fun as hell, but I think
- 5:43that's a little bit of overcompensation going on in
- 5:46there, she says. I do relate to my character, but
- 5:50I think I am this person who is loud, with a big personality who
- 5:54is out there and I can be brassy and I gotta have a dirty mouth
- 5:58and all these things about me that are also Melrose.
- 6:01There are things about her that I would never do, like fake a
- 6:04miscarriage with ketchup and I'm not a drug doer or a cigarette
- 6:08smoker. There are a lot of things that
- 6:10we don't have in common, but there are also a lot of things
- 6:13we do. End Quote Next scene Carmen and
- 6:19Ruth practice moved in the ring, a scoop up slam followed by
- 6:23Carmen dragging Ruth across the ring by her hair.
- 6:26Carmen hits a regular surplus on Ruth and she oversells it.
- 6:30Debbie asked when they they learn that move, and Melrose
- 6:35says that they didn't. But you know how nerds are.
- 6:38They try harder. Bash introduces Debbie to Glenn
- 6:42Klitnick, calling her their *. Glenn is an executive at KDTV
- 6:48and is the man who is making all their dreams come true.
- 6:52He is played by Andrew Friedman. He has one of those.
- 6:57I don't know the name, but I recognize to say the face
- 6:59somewhere, you know, that type of actor.
- 7:02But he's also a writer. He was known for Better Call
- 7:05Saul, obviously Glow, Live Free or Die Hard and plays Charlie's
- 7:12Uncle Jack and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
- 7:17Sam says that he may not know her as Laura Morgan from
- 7:21Paradise Cove, but he says he's not really a soap opera guy,
- 7:25though his wife is. She goes crazy over all my
- 7:29children. So Paradise Cove, I looked it
- 7:33up. It's not a real thing.
- 7:34It was never a real soap opera. All My Children was a real soap
- 7:37opera, so All My Children was out in the 80s.
- 7:41Paradise Cove is only for this show right here.
- 7:47He asked if she's ever done anything there, but she explains
- 7:50that they film in New York, but she's always been based in LA.
- 7:56Bach suggests she show him what she's been working on.
- 8:00She shows him some moves and then explains her character
- 8:03Liberty Bell, an All American hero.
- 8:08She's kind of a role model for kids, and she could then say
- 8:11something like be all that you can be and say Nope to dope.
- 8:17The latter, which makes her cringe, Does like that.
- 8:23Say Nope to dope. She says she's a mother and
- 8:28knows how important to be patriotic, so she's still
- 8:31working on it. He says he looks forward to
- 8:34seeing it. When it's done, Bash chuckles
- 8:37awkwardly takes Glenn somewhere else.
- 8:40Sam pets Devi on her shoulder. Like, good job, good job.
- 8:43You did such a job. Well done, You can stop being
- 8:46anxious now. You did a good job.
- 8:49Sam tells Glenn that the program is deep, that the women are
- 8:54going to be wrestling with their stereotypes.
- 8:56He thinks it's really it'll really resonate with female
- 9:01audiences. Guys will watch because girls
- 9:05Wrestling is hot. Bash points out that Glenn is in
- 9:09charge of Saturday morning children's programming at KDTV.
- 9:12Hot and family friendly at them. Porn you can watch with your
- 9:17kids, finally. Yikes.
- 9:21Glenn stares for a moment and then chuckles.
- 9:23He says this is a whole very strong, a strong concept and a
- 9:26strong time slot. He says they can make something
- 9:30special if they find the right sponsor.
- 9:33This confuses Sam, who thought Bash was supposed to be the
- 9:37sponsor. Bash says he's the producer, not
- 9:40the sponsor. The sponsor pays for airtime.
- 9:43Bash asks Glenn how they're doing with that, and he says
- 9:46they have a great lead. A a local business named Patio
- 9:50Town, Sam asked if he means bird bath, and he agrees that they
- 9:55sell bird bath furniture, custom fire pits and more.
- 9:59The number 2 purveyor of indoor outdoor lifestyle furniture in
- 10:03Southern California, he says they're having a grand opening
- 10:08of a new location that Friday and would be a great opportunity
- 10:10for a meet and greet. He suggests that they bring a
- 10:13couple of the girls, including the Zippy Ruth girl, to nail
- 10:17this puppy down. Bash says they're going to nail
- 10:20this puppy down. It'll think it's being
- 10:22crucified. Yikes.
- 10:24Another crunch moment. It results in an awkward laugh,
- 10:28but still very crunchy. Whoa there, bud.
- 10:34Debbie practices rapping in front of a mirror, saying that
- 10:38she's Liberty Bell, the perfect American hero.
- 10:41She's a perfect head and you're a 0.
- 10:45Yes? She pointed at the mirror
- 10:47herself. She had to.
- 10:50There was no beat behind us any at all.
- 10:53She just went ahead and went for it, The 80s and those lyrics.
- 11:00This is actually a nod to how the original GLOW Girls would
- 11:03start or end the show with a rap, Who they are and what their
- 11:09gimmicks are and who they were beefing with.
- 11:12It was. It was fun at first.
- 11:15Danny just got, like, no obnoxious, she raps.
- 11:21I'm American as apple pie, and if you're not, I'll make you die
- 11:26cringe. She spins around and jumps on
- 11:29the bed to do an elbow drop. She asks Randy what he sings and
- 11:34naturally gets no response. Later, she sits at a cafe with
- 11:38her father and mother, who tells her that she never thought her
- 11:41husband Mark was right for her. Anyway, Mom is being played by
- 11:46Lisa and Walter, who plays Melissa Chimenti on Abbott
- 11:49Elementary, and Dad is being played by Allen Havy, who plays
- 11:53Carl Allard on the show Billions.
- 11:57Debbie tells her it's not the time, but she continues that she
- 12:00always thought he was very controlling.
- 12:03Debbie asked her to not put her in the position of having to
- 12:06defend the man she just left. Mom says that she's just worried
- 12:10about her. She's always been so
- 12:11independent, and now she's sitting around in Pasadena with
- 12:15a new belt for every outfit, waiting for him to come home.
- 12:20She replies that she made the choice to stop working, that she
- 12:23wanted to be there for her child.
- 12:26Her mom replies, and it's nice she had that choice.
- 12:29She says she didn't mean anything by it, and her mother
- 12:32says she knows. Her father suggests that maybe
- 12:34they'll get back together. Her mother tells them to have
- 12:37another piece of bacon deer. Stop talking.
- 12:41Debbie asked that they just babysit Randy on the weekdays
- 12:44during rehearsals. That Mark has him on the
- 12:46weekends. Just then, Ruth enters a cafe.
- 12:52Debbie's parents greet her warmly, not being aware of what
- 12:55happened. Oh my gosh, awkward.
- 12:58Oh no. Debbie says they're working
- 13:02together, and they say it's fabulous inviting her to have a
- 13:06seat. No, don't do that.
- 13:10No, Ruth says she would love to stay, but she only came to check
- 13:14the time and she has to run to rehearsal.
- 13:16What a great lie there. But she says it was nice to see
- 13:19them and leaves. Debbie says she has to go too,
- 13:22pointing out a few things for Randy's care.
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- 14:36Next scene, Keith gets a phone call.
- 14:39He's in bed, Cherry's trying to use the bathroom shower.
- 14:44He's in bed. He gets a phone call.
- 14:47The voice on the other hand asked.
- 14:48The lion asked where's the beef, saying that they've been
- 14:53wondering exactly where he puts his beef.
- 14:57He says what the fuck. He hears laughter, on the other
- 15:00hand, and they hang up, a nod to the old Wendy's commercial,
- 15:03where the old lady's asking where's the meat on the
- 15:05cheeseburger, where's the beef? Afterwards, Sheila, who gets a
- 15:11call, this time with the woman, saying she's from Hellman's
- 15:14mayonnaise and asking her if she can take a survey.
- 15:17Hellman's mayonnaise? Really.
- 15:20Mailman. Hellman.
- 15:22Villa. Venom.
- 15:23Venom. Sheila agrees, saying she always
- 15:26has time for condiments. Ruth comes out of the shower,
- 15:30drying her hair. Confused, listening to Sheila
- 15:31say personal lubricant, she realizes what is happening and
- 15:37hangs up the phone in their room.
- 15:40Don and Stacy laugh it up while smoking weed.
- 15:45Don and Stacy, respectively, played by Rebecca Johnson and
- 15:47Kimmy Gatewood, have been doing comedy.
- 15:50They've been comedy partners with form more than 10 years
- 15:54now. They got called in to get her to
- 15:57audition for GLOW. Christine Jackson published an
- 15:59article on Gatewood on The Washington Washingtonian
- 16:03Washingtonian on July 11th, 2017.
- 16:08Gatewood says that they were both fans of GLOW, the original
- 16:11GLOW. I remember watching it as a kid
- 16:14because there was sketch comedy in it.
- 16:16I became a sketch comedian years later.
- 16:19By then it realized the impact. It would have seen women do
- 16:22sketch comedy in spandex, but nevertheless sketch comedy.
- 16:27When we found out we got the call, we didn't know what to
- 16:30expect. But we went in together and we
- 16:32had about a page and a half of dialogue, and then we improvised
- 16:35some characters. Afterwards, when they called us
- 16:38back, they didn't give us a script at all.
- 16:39They just said to come up with A tag team character.
- 16:43So we came up with five and then went into the audition and
- 16:46basically did a miniature show for them.
- 16:50Then they asked us some questions about how we knew each
- 16:52other and we're interested in our real life best friendship.
- 16:57We started wrestling the Monday after that.
- 17:00When asked if both Gatewood and Johnson were anything like Donna
- 17:03and Stacy in real life, she said the similarities are were game
- 17:07for anything and we are happy to make fools of ourselves at any
- 17:11given moment. The difference is, I think we
- 17:14might be a little bit smarter than Stacy and Don, who aren't
- 17:18the sharpest tools in the shed and will throw themselves
- 17:20against the wall or get duped into doing controversial matches
- 17:25at whiny point. They're the kind of girls you
- 17:28find on the Sunset Strip in the 80s.
- 17:30The heavy metal girls, they would try to sleep with the band
- 17:34members but could probably score with the bouncer.
- 17:38I like to think of us as the kind of Statler and Waldorf of
- 17:41Glow. You're just kind of off to the
- 17:44side going yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
- 17:47And also, we also look like Muppets.
- 17:51Uh. Ruth meets with the hotel
- 17:53manager, saying that she and Sheila are having some trouble
- 17:56with their TV. He says it's not his problem,
- 18:00and she points out that they're guests there.
- 18:02He says that the sign says Free TV, not free TV's.
- 18:07If she doesn't like it, she can go to the room of another
- 18:10prostitute. Ruth is taken aback.
- 18:14Excuse me? What the audacity of this man.
- 18:18He picks up a phone saying his wrong number.
- 18:22He comments on something on the television saying that it's
- 18:25Soviet Union television watches you.
- 18:29She asks if it's a joke, and he tells her to leave.
- 18:31She does, but continues to stand behind the counter, watching his
- 18:34demeanor and how he talks. Don and Stacy smoke a bong and
- 18:41Stacy makes another call, this time to Melrose.
- 18:44She says she's Lisa from Doctor Goldberg's office for Melanie
- 18:47Danielle Rosen with her test results.
- 18:50She has AIDS in her butt. Melrose says that she was just
- 18:57in her friend Don and Stacy's room and she just started
- 19:00bleeding out of her butt. The only way she could make a
- 19:02stop was by shoving both of her toothbrushes into her ass.
- 19:07She runs out of the room shouting at them to get a life.
- 19:10You hags. I love that shit.
- 19:12Hags. Shit like old hags.
- 19:15That would've been great. That would've been great.
- 19:17Old hags. I love that word Jackie tone on
- 19:22the Huffington Post article. I've been acting since I was 10.
- 19:26I did a lot of stuff when I was a little kid in commercials.
- 19:31I was on The Nanny and a bunch of different stuff like that in
- 19:34my 20s. I have been acting for so long,
- 19:37funny enough, that I've been making music as well.
- 19:40I wanted to just try something else.
- 19:42And so I tried out for American Idol, and that was super
- 19:45exciting. When I was 30, I was like, you
- 19:47know, I think I love making music and it's absolutely a
- 19:50passion of mine. But I think performing, acting,
- 19:53comedy and being an actor has always been the dream.
- 19:56And the music, as much as I love it, was a less turn in the
- 20:00middle. And then I came back to acting.
- 20:05Melrose asked how everyone knows her real name.
- 20:09Jenny murmurs that she doesn't know, and she asks what she's
- 20:11doing. She says that it's her hair and
- 20:14she asked for who. She says it's for her own self
- 20:18esteem. Melrose says she can't look at
- 20:23any of them anymore. Hey, you need good mental
- 20:27health, you know? Back then it was bad.
- 20:32You need to look good for yourself I guess.
- 20:34Like, hey, my own mental health. Self esteem.
- 20:38Jenny says they could go out, but they have to be back by 10.
- 20:43There's another call Melrose starts cussing out, the caller
- 20:45calling them cunts. But it's just Dean.
- 20:48She asked if she'll split a pizza and Melrose asked why she
- 20:51keeps ordering pizza. Oh girl, you're about to find
- 20:54out. A slow motion montage with head
- 20:57over heels by Tears For Fears playing as the pizza delivery
- 21:01boy arrives with the pizza. Of course, and it becomes clear
- 21:05why this kid has this Jake Ryan from 16 Candles.
- 21:09Look like had the entire freaking how do you call it the
- 21:15the smuttering look on his way with the freaking peaks on his
- 21:18hand, he does a 62nd slow motion walk from the car to Justine's
- 21:22door. So I just ended up singing the
- 21:25lyrics. You know, something happens and
- 21:29I'm head over here. I don't know the fucking song
- 21:33and I don't want to play it. I don't want to get in trouble.
- 21:38Justine greets him and he knows that she got black olives.
- 21:42She says she likes the color black, just like her soul
- 21:48cringe. Artie, who is in the background
- 21:50reading a book, cringes as she turns around.
- 21:53Like, what did she just say? Did she just say that?
- 21:56He tells her it'll be $11.00 even and she gives him the
- 22:02money. He says he'll see her around and
- 22:04leaves. She closed the door and groaned,
- 22:07saying that he must think that she's a total poser for saying
- 22:11that she likes the color black. She asked Artie why she can't
- 22:15even talk to him, knowing that she can't even order for him
- 22:17more pizza because she's out of cash until next Friday.
- 22:20Artie says it's a good thing he wrote his number on the box.
- 22:23Justine reads it. Billy Elfo, 818-238-5564.
- 22:28Don't call that number, please. I urge you not to call that
- 22:32number. OK, 818-238-5564, Don't call it.
- 22:37Justina asked if this means he actually wants her to call Art
- 22:40date stares at her. Yeah.
- 22:45Billy, played by Casey Johnson, will be back in seven more
- 22:48episodes. His other body of work includes
- 22:50the show Rise in 2018, the movie A Killer Walk Amongst Us, and
- 22:54most recently in 2022 for 19 episodes.
- 22:56He played Danny Stevens on the show For All Mankind.
- 23:02Again, don't call the 818 the number.
- 23:04It's the number for Burbank, CA. Anyway, the girls train at the
- 23:11gym. Sam interrupts Ruth, asking if
- 23:13she wants to take a field trip. Debbie turns to Carmen, saying
- 23:17that all the extra work paid off for Ruth.
- 23:20Carmen tells her that she wants to talk.
- 23:22She can squat, Tossing her a ball, She says that Carmen has
- 23:26been helping her. They're both good.
- 23:28While she still sucks, Carmen tells her that Ruth takes it
- 23:32seriously. Debbie replies that she's taking
- 23:34as seriously as she can. She's working out.
- 23:37She had a baby six months ago, and her hips are still in the
- 23:39wrong place. Every time Cherry makes them
- 23:43jump, she ropes. She leaks a little.
- 23:45She has issues well there, but she's there.
- 23:50Carmen says that her problem is that she thinks wrestling is
- 23:52stupid. Debbie says it is, isn't it?
- 23:56Carmen tell her that she prefers exaggerated.
- 24:00That's the point. Her brother once had a promoter
- 24:02who set up with a guy that wrestled a snake.
- 24:05The day of the match, the snake died, so he put on a sock puppet
- 24:08and her brother wrestled it like it was real.
- 24:11It brought the house down. She asked if Debbie's never been
- 24:14to a real wrestling match. Debbie stands there quietly.
- 24:19Ruth, Ronza and Sam arrived at a new furniture store.
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- 25:41Ruth, Rada and Sam arrive at the new furniture store.
- 25:45Ruth asked if they're doing a demo because she has an idea for
- 25:48a new character. Sam tells her to do no demos and
- 25:52no talking. It's the formality.
- 25:54Their window dressing. Bash introduces them to the CEO,
- 25:59Patrick O Town. Sam realizes it's a pun.
- 26:04Patio, town. Patio.
- 26:07Patio, town. Patio town.
- 26:09Oh, we get it all right, Punny. Patrick says that their name is
- 26:13their destiny, and Sam agrees that he often wondered what his
- 26:16life would be like if his name was Francis Ford Coppola.
- 26:21Favorite director Patrick is played by Andy Umberger,
- 26:25Umberger, and Humber. You know what?
- 26:28He's right. Your name is your destiny.
- 26:31Andy Umberger, a stage actor and has appeared in three Broadway
- 26:35shows, City of Angels, Passion and Company.
- 26:39He's also appeared on soaps like The Young and the Restless and
- 26:41been on shows like Mad Men, Desperate Housewives, Boston
- 26:45Legal. But he is best known as the
- 26:48demon de Hoffran on the hit TV show Buffy's Vampire Slayer.
- 26:53He's the demon that gives Anya her revenge demon powers,
- 26:55basically. If you want to go back to
- 26:57probably season three around there, I don't know, forgot
- 27:00where she where he was introduced, definitely.
- 27:04He's seen the last season. He's in mostly in the last
- 27:06season because he's heavily in the last season.
- 27:09Check him out on buffet. Bash asked if he would like to
- 27:13see Patio Town plastered across fourteen of the most gorgeous
- 27:15women in wrestling. He says he gets it, but it won't
- 27:19help him. Saw the lawn chairs.
- 27:22Bash says he doesn't understand that he was recommended by
- 27:25Glenn. Patrick calls Glenn a golf buddy
- 27:27who owed a favor, who he owed a favor.
- 27:31Bash asked that he give them a second to show them what they're
- 27:34about. He says it's a family business
- 27:36and their customers a nice urban mom.
- 27:39He tells them to enjoy the refreshments and leaves.
- 27:43Bash begs Sam to help. Sam tells Patrick that he might
- 27:47be selling barbecues to moms, but he sees a lot of guys there,
- 27:51too. They're guys whose lives aren't
- 27:53working out the way they thought and wondering how many more
- 27:56Sundials their wives are going to show them before their Dicks
- 27:59fall off. He asked Rhonda to show him what
- 28:02he means that she takes off her vest, chin up, hands over hips,
- 28:07chest out. And don't forget the shoe.
- 28:11I'm kidding. There's no shoe.
- 28:13But shout out to Tony Storm for that one.
- 28:17Patrick seems sold. He has Rhonda join in for the
- 28:20ribbon cutting. Nobody cheers for it.
- 28:23And then Ruth appears, speaking in a Russian accent and shouting
- 28:27Niet niet. She says that patio town is
- 28:32disgusting. Capitalism at its worst.
- 28:35Oh shit, that's a horrible ass freaking Russian accent.
- 28:39Sorry about that. I didn't say Niant Niant, Patio
- 28:44town is disgusting. Listen, that is worse.
- 28:48Best start to ask him, Sam, if they should stop her.
- 28:51But Sam lets it go on. Ruth says that there's one store
- 28:55in 50 different types of chair. In Soviet Union they have one
- 28:59chair and they take turns to sit in him.
- 29:04What in him? That's what she said.
- 29:09If you miss it, too bad. You sit on the floor for the
- 29:12rest of the year. It's the greatness of communism.
- 29:16She stands there, taking it all in.
- 29:19Sam booed her like a plant and soon everyone is booing.
- 29:24She smiles at Sam. She says she knows why they Boo.
- 29:29Because it's Patrick Town. You never stand in line in the
- 29:33Soviet Union. A line is like a cocktail party.
- 29:38That's a horrible Soviet Union. Excellent.
- 29:40The only conversation you can get where the KGB won't hear
- 29:43you. Hey, fuck that one up.
- 29:48Everyone chuckles and Patrick cuts the ribbon.
- 29:50Sam smiles at roofs and nods. Oh God, can I do a do it?
- 29:56No, we're live, pal. And that right there was called
- 30:01Colonel Ninachka, played by Lauren Palmer in The Original
- 30:05Courteous Lady of Wrestling. Unfortunately, she wasn't at the
- 30:09reunion documentary, and I couldn't find a reason as to why
- 30:16she couldn't be there online. On August 8th, 2019, though,
- 30:20Palmer appeared on the Review Journal and was interviewed by
- 30:23Christopher Lawrence. He writes Palmer skipped the
- 30:27reunions of her former colleagues, although she's now
- 30:29actively looking to see some of them again, she says.
- 30:34I never went to college. They're like my sorority
- 30:37sisters. Palmer only recently started
- 30:40feeling good about her time with GLOW, and some of those warm
- 30:43feelings stem from the Netflix series.
- 30:47I watched some interviews before it came out, and Alison Brie had
- 30:50mentioned she had watched my tape.
- 30:52It was just this huge compliment.
- 30:55Seeing some of her efforts dramatized on a critically
- 30:58acclaimed series, no matter how loosely inspired it is by the
- 31:01real woman, helped with Palmer's change of heart.
- 31:05You feel appreciated. You feel like, Oh my gosh, it
- 31:08mattered, it mattered what we did, she says.
- 31:11Now. It's wonderful to be like, oh
- 31:13man, I was part of that. You sure?
- 31:16Were you sure? Wear next scene, Melrose panels,
- 31:21a malfunctioning Coke machine and shouts fuck my mother and
- 31:25her fucking cunt. I'm thirsty.
- 31:31I don't know how I'm still have a podcast with these words.
- 31:35Carmen and Debbie stare as she asks what they're looking at.
- 31:38She says it's cute that they're going out together, telling that
- 31:42the cherry will be on them if they're not backed by curfew.
- 31:46She asked if she can come, then races after them.
- 31:50Carmen has taken Debbie to her first ever real life live
- 31:54wrestling match, getting some good seats.
- 31:57Carmen says she knows people. The announcer gets the crowd
- 32:00riled up, including Carmen and Rose.
- 32:03Melrose the Railrose the announcer gets the crowd riled
- 32:07up, including Carmen and Melrose.
- 32:08But Debbie seems less than enthused.
- 32:13Sam, Rhonda and Ruth are in the car after the ribbon cutting,
- 32:16having dinner in the car of Foster's Freeze.
- 32:21Ruth is still very much in character.
- 32:23She says that in Soviet Union they must pay one month's salary
- 32:26for this quality cat. Sam laughs as she continues.
- 32:30They have. They have Foster's Freeze too.
- 32:33They call it Ice Cream Gulag. There you go in it's so cold you
- 32:38die. Rhonda's not amused.
- 32:42Sam says that he likes her like this more than he usually does.
- 32:45Ruth says that this is because he's a weak American and she
- 32:48would destroy all the he holds Dia.
- 32:51Sam says that Russians are the best villains since the Nazis,
- 32:54and it's just too bad she can't do it for real.
- 32:57She asked her normal boys why she can't.
- 33:00He says that if she's Russian, she has to fight the All
- 33:03American hero, and Debbie's not talking to her.
- 33:06Ruth says he never knows that she could change her mind.
- 33:11She goes back into character, saying it's like an old Russian
- 33:14saying a fisherman cannot kill a chicken till there are no more
- 33:18fish in the sea. I am poachering this fucking
- 33:25accent. Oh, I need to like, I need to
- 33:27work on it. Maybe for the next episode I
- 33:29need to start watching more Russian people talk.
- 33:33I'm sorry guys, I really am. Rhonda clears her throat, saying
- 33:38she needs to pee. Sam tells her to go, and she
- 33:43asks if he wants to come with her.
- 33:46Say what? He doesn't understand as she
- 33:48leaves, slamming the door. Ruth gets him to admit that he's
- 33:52having sex with her, and he points out that she has sex with
- 33:55Mark. She knows that he wasn't his
- 33:58boss, right? Says Sam.
- 34:02He was your best friend's husband and I apologize for
- 34:05being defensive. He says that he has a flaw in
- 34:08his conflict style according to his ex-wife, cognitive behavior
- 34:11therapist. He asked her why she did it and
- 34:14she asked him why anyone makes a stupid, horrible mistake.
- 34:17He says that for him it's usually because he's high or
- 34:20drunk, or that someone has done something to make him feel so
- 34:23small and insecure that he has to remind himself he exists.
- 34:30She asked him what kind of person she does seem like, and
- 34:34he says she's an OK person. Rhonda gets back in the car and
- 34:38tells Ruth that she and Sam are shagging.
- 34:42Ruth smirks a bit and hides it. Sam sighs and starts the car.
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- 36:38Back at the match, all three girls are watching Frankie
- 36:41Kazarian against Christopher Daniels.
- 36:44Both have had careers for more than 20 years and are best known
- 36:48for being multiple time champions in TNA and AW.
- 36:52Carmen urges Debbie to watch what is coming up.
- 36:55She says it's the Moonsault, one of the hardest moves in
- 36:57wrestling. Daniels hit the best Moonsault
- 37:01ever, his finishing move with ease, and Melrose is shocked by
- 37:05how dangerous it looks. Just flip backwards.
- 37:11Daniel, who's wearing his Curry Man persona wrestling gear, is
- 37:14declared the winner and Debbie says that they should get going,
- 37:17that she should check on the baby before her mother gets to
- 37:20sleep. Carmen says that they should
- 37:22just see one more match, just one more match that one of her
- 37:26all time favorite guys is up next.
- 37:28Debbie agrees, but gets up to get some tequila.
- 37:34Back at the hotel, Justine Fritz up her Billy, wondering if he
- 37:37even knows her name. She's worried that she'll call
- 37:41him, only for him to not even know who she is.
- 37:44Already tells her that he definitely knows her name.
- 37:49Justine thinks that maybe he's mad because he's been expecting
- 37:52her to call. She worries he might hang up on
- 37:55her, or she might have to talk with his mom.
- 37:58Who knows? There's a knock on the door and
- 38:00she comments that he that he probably already has a
- 38:03girlfriend, some cool punker who's in the band who knows how
- 38:06to give a blowjob without choking.
- 38:08She opens the door and it's Billy who is standing there,
- 38:10amused. She says she didn't order any
- 38:13pizza and already says that she did.
- 38:16She says that she's going to study and we'll be back in 45
- 38:19minutes. Try not to choke on anything.
- 38:22She gives Billy the money, thanks him, and leaves with the
- 38:25pizza. Justine apologizes for not
- 38:27calling. He tells her it's OK.
- 38:31They kiss passionately, leaving them in the room by themselves.
- 38:36Back at the ring, Carmen says that the wrestler they're seeing
- 38:39next is called Steel Horse, a working class hero.
- 38:43He comes out of the motorcycle and then poses on top of the
- 38:45turnbuckle. Melrose says her vagina just
- 38:49swallowed herself. Oh my God, Steel Horses, played
- 38:53by another former W wrestler, Alex Riley.
- 38:58Or, again, another person that's unrecognizable because we
- 39:04couldn't recognize Carlito at first.
- 39:07Riley has bulked up a bit. He bulked up a lot.
- 39:12Riley spoke with Jim Barcelona from the Miami Herald about how
- 39:17he beat The Miz and Chris Jericho for this particular
- 39:21role, who auditioned in character with a bathrobe and
- 39:25full costume, which is what the producers were looking for.
- 39:28He says. I try to stay humble in that
- 39:31space, but I did do that. Yep.
- 39:33Which was interesting to me. I just got and let go from the
- 39:37WE and then I ended up there. I was just like, OK, it was kind
- 39:41of nice. It was kind of nice.
- 39:43OK, I guess it was pretty good. But yeah, it was pretty
- 39:46interesting. Yep, that's the truth.
- 39:50I was there for three days total.
- 39:54They had signed me for a week and I was there for three days,
- 39:57but the only. Day that I was doing anything on
- 40:00camera was the third day. So one day, the other two days I
- 40:04kind of the one day I showed up just on my own to try to get a
- 40:08feel for things to watch the way they did.
- 40:11Did television to get a feel for the director and the producers
- 40:15and and meet people, get get in front of Chavo who was there
- 40:19working out by working the girls out and teaching them to become
- 40:23professional wrestlers, which was fantastic to see him.
- 40:26I didn't expect to see him. So it was a, it was a there was
- 40:29a bunch of friendly faces there, which was, it was AII say this
- 40:32all the time. It was a it was the perfect
- 40:34transition into the acting world because I did have a couple
- 40:38friends that were on the set and it was a show that was kind of
- 40:42about wrestling. So something that I knew on that
- 40:46end and then I had to pick up very quickly all of the other
- 40:49things the the this small nuances of acting and and all
- 40:53that stuff, which was just a ton of fun.
- 40:56His opponent is wearing a sparkly green robe with dollar
- 41:00signs. Mr. Monopoly, the heel played by
- 41:04indie wrestler Joey Ryan. No comment.
- 41:08Mr. Monopoly is an homage or a parody, depending on how you
- 41:11look at it. To wrestling legend The
- 41:13$1,000,000 Man. You ever heard the $1,000,000
- 41:16man laugh? I have?
- 41:18He laughed right in front of my face.
- 41:19I asked him to. One of my favorite memories.
- 41:22That was when I was trying to meet Mick Foley.
- 41:25I think I said this in this one of the episodes trying to meet
- 41:29Mick Foley. I was in line.
- 41:32Obviously men, daughter, man and Virgil are standing next to each
- 41:37other and it was his line. So you know in order to get
- 41:42Virgil's, nobody went to go get Virgil's autograph.
- 41:45Let's be honest. They all wanted the men daughter
- 41:46man's autograph. But same time he's there and
- 41:51he's asking don't you want my autograph?
- 41:52And I'm just like. I have a picture with you giving
- 41:56me the $1,000,000 dream. Can I bring it in and sign it
- 42:00$1,000,000 Man. Everything there yet what?
- 42:04What did he say? Everyone has a price for the
- 42:06$1,000,000. Man, he doesn't laugh.
- 42:09Evil laughter. I go ahead and meet Mick Foley.
- 42:15Fuck you guys. Ah, Carbon explained.
- 42:19It's a grudge match, and every match is like another chapter.
- 42:22It all started when Mr. Monopoly closed down the factory in Steel
- 42:26Horses Town and they all lost their jobs.
- 42:28Then he kidnapped Crystal Steel Horses Woman and brainwashed her
- 42:33to believe that he's evil. Crystal is played by indie
- 42:37wrestler Laura James. In February 2016, James got
- 42:41engaged to her boyfriend, Joey Ryan, who proposed to her during
- 42:44their inner gender match at Violin City Wrestling in San
- 42:46Diego. James said yes in the middle of
- 42:50the match, in the middle of him beating her ass or her beating
- 42:54his ass, James said yes. He proposed to donate, proposed
- 43:01she said yes, and after he put the ring on her hand, he rolled
- 43:05her up. Joy Ryan rolled her up and wins
- 43:08the match. But she still has that ring.
- 43:12Hey, the video clip of the proposal went viral, and the
- 43:15couple made appearances on various news outlets, including
- 43:18a feature on ESPN Sports Center. The couple married in November
- 43:22of 2016. That is so cute.
- 43:26Wasn't, like, the best memory ever going viral for doing that.
- 43:31Oh my God, wrestling. Wrestling is fucking awesome.
- 43:37In October 2018, the two separated, not so much, with
- 43:42James filing for divorce from Ryan in June 2019, citing
- 43:48irreconcilable differences. Carmen continues and says
- 43:53despite this, he still loves her and tries to win her back.
- 43:57They're actually half brothers. You can see Steelhorse calling
- 44:02out for Crystal to come back to him.
- 44:05Reaching out for her. Come here, come here.
- 44:07Getting on his knees to tell her he is there for her, Crystal
- 44:11reaches out to him. She's reaching out her fingers
- 44:16towards him. But Mr. Monopoly, who is like so
- 44:19concerned with being loved and showing off, finally turns
- 44:24around, looks at what's happening and he yells at
- 44:27Crystal. Stay right there.
- 44:30Don't touch. Don't.
- 44:33No. He pushes her on the face,
- 44:37throws her up against the corner turnbuckle And what they're
- 44:44trying to imply here? Christmas and a match to
- 44:45wrestling legend Miss Elizabeth. Who was the valet to, you know.
- 44:51Oh yeah, Macho man. Ready.
- 44:53Savage. Funky like a monkey You ticket.
- 45:00Debbie fills in the rest. It was Mr. Monopoly's plan all
- 45:04along to get revenge on the father who abandoned him.
- 45:08Carmen and Melrose look at each other as if to say Devi finally
- 45:14got it. Devi yells.
- 45:17This whole thing is a soap opera.
- 45:19I understand how to do that. She is now fully engaged.
- 45:24She gets it. She stands up and cheers, trying
- 45:26to woo Devi and Betty Gilpin. Need to work.
- 45:31Devi or Betty Gilpin. I'm sorry.
- 45:34Devi or Betty, They're the same person, but somehow the actors
- 45:38need to work on her. Excited woo sounded like an
- 45:40eagle screeching down the ground.
- 45:41Fish. Woo, woo, woo.
- 45:44Oh my God, that was horrible. That was a horrible screech.
- 45:51After the match, they go backstage and meet with Dale,
- 45:56who plays Steel Horse. Of course, of course, of course.
- 46:00Carmen introduces herself as Tom and Kurt's little sister.
- 46:03She says he was amazing. Introduces Melrose and Debbie.
- 46:07He recognizes her as Laura Morgan from Paradise Cove,
- 46:12saying he's a huge fan. The Paradise Cove again is fake.
- 46:16He tells her that they get all the best ideas from soap operas.
- 46:20He tells her that the new Laura can't act for shit.
- 46:24She laughs happily. Oh yeah, She laughs, like y'all
- 46:28fucked up. Later on, they're inside his
- 46:31room and steel horses talking to Debbie, telling her that she
- 46:34sells it, that he sells it. But Mr. Monopoly, the bad guy is
- 46:38the real Craftsman. The heel makes the face, making
- 46:42him look good for years. I whoever is new around here, I
- 46:48hope you understand what I just said.
- 46:49The heel is the bad guy. The face is the good guy.
- 46:53That's how we talk in the wrestling business.
- 46:56Heel is a bad guy. Face is a good guy.
- 46:59So the bad guy makes the good guy, making him look good for
- 47:03years. She says he's a good friend, but
- 47:05he tells her that you don't have to be friends to wrestle.
- 47:09It's an unspoken language. They just look at each other and
- 47:14they know what's going down. It's a partnership.
- 47:17They don't like each other, but they make each other better.
- 47:20So long as there's something there that's real, it hits you
- 47:24right in the heart. Melrose tells Debbie that it's
- 47:28going getting late, and Dale says that it's OK that she
- 47:32probably needs to get home to her husband or boyfriend.
- 47:36She tells him she recently separated.
- 47:37Melrose begs her to make her be the rules person.
- 47:41Please don't make me be the rules person.
- 47:43Don't make me be the mom. She's not emotionally equipped
- 47:46for it. Debbie rummages through her
- 47:50purse, tells her to take her car, and she'll take a cab.
- 47:53She says she'll deal with Cherry.
- 47:57Dale says he feels bad for her husband.
- 47:59She says she doesn't give a shit and kiss him.
- 48:02Next scene is five in the morning, cherries already up.
- 48:06She's determined to have some hot water for her shower.
- 48:10She Keith. She cheat.
- 48:11She Keith tells her go ahead. She goes out and discovers
- 48:15Debbie going, doing the walk of shame and fumbling in her purse
- 48:19to find her keys. She gave it to Melrose.
- 48:23She gave the car keys to Melrose, the keys to the.
- 48:26Hotel are in on the on the key chain, right?
- 48:31Is that how it goes? Is that how it works?
- 48:33Is that how it worked in the 80s?
- 48:34There was a like a key instead of a key card, huh?
- 48:39Debbie tells her she has an emergency.
- 48:41She takes a cigarette from Debbie, saying that Keith thinks
- 48:43she quit. She asked her if Steel Horse
- 48:46lived up to the name. She says that Melrose told her
- 48:50and she told her return what they do to rats, where she comes
- 48:52from. Something about this I at first
- 48:56thought my first reaction to when she said like they do what
- 48:59they do to rats. Rats in the wrestling business
- 49:02is like a fan. What is it like like a fan to
- 49:10wear rock stars? Somebody help me out.
- 49:13No. So when she says rat, I thought,
- 49:20you know what they do to rats. Like, oh shit, you know, but she
- 49:24really is saying snitches get stitches over here, so don't
- 49:30ever rat someone out. She did notes that she didn't
- 49:33answer her question. Debbie says that it was good and
- 49:36exciting, but also weird. You're with someone for a long
- 49:39time and you think about all the guys you got to sleep with.
- 49:43If he disappeared, then he does, and you do, and you remember how
- 49:46much easier it is when you both know each other.
- 49:50Sherry says it sounds like the horse was less than steely, and
- 49:53Debbie disagrees, saying that the horse was exhaustingly
- 49:57steely. She's now dreading having to pee
- 50:00and needs to get some sleep. She gives Cherry the rest of the
- 50:04cigarette, telling her to enjoy, but Cherry tells her she's not
- 50:06getting off that easily. They have a 5K uphill run
- 50:10together. Debbie tells her to give her 5
- 50:13minutes to wash her face and drain her tits, and Cherry says
- 50:17she has until she's done with the cigarette.
- 50:20Debbie groans as she walks inside her room.
- 50:25A couple hours later, Sam is laying in bed when his phone
- 50:28rings. He puts it up, telling Don
- 50:30enough with the fucking crank calls.
- 50:34Don's been doing the crank calls the entire night.
- 50:36Good for you, Don. It's actually Debbie, though.
- 50:40He asked her what's going on and she says she's been thinking
- 50:42about the show. She says she's all in, but if he
- 50:46wants her to do this, If he wants her to be the star.
- 50:49She needs a great heal. She's She tells him to find her
- 50:54one, and he smiles. Oh, he knows.
- 50:56He knows who to get. She hangs up the phone and walks
- 50:59over to look at herself in the mirror, which was after the 5K
- 51:02run. She's glistening, fucking sweat
- 51:05all over her face, all over her body, all over her chest.
- 51:07The show ends to Rock You like a hurricane by the scorpions
- 51:12playing the credit. Sam already knows.
- 51:18What we're doing here, Devi versus Ruth, it's happening.
- 51:23Last episode, they were opposite ends of the pool.
- 51:28This episode, few next few episodes, they're going to,
- 51:31they're going to fight. They're going to they're going
- 51:33to fight. What a great episode.
- 51:38And it ended. It's done.
- 51:39But it's a great episode. I love how it starts and ends
- 51:42with Cherry waking up super early to go for a run.
- 51:45But. Runs into possibly some of the
- 51:47girls doing the walk of shame, who've obviously enjoyed a night
- 51:51of debauchery. So she has to be like, oh, hey,
- 51:54what do you think you're doing? Huh?
- 51:57Huh. Oh, doing the walk of shame,
- 51:59huh? OK, that's nice.
- 52:02All right, now you get to go run in a 5K uphill with me.
- 52:06Let's go. I'm going to say this was a very
- 52:12Devi centric episode. I know I said it in the intro
- 52:15about Devi does something and she sure did.
- 52:19So let's change the name of the episode to Devi Rise of Steely
- 52:22or Devi does Steely. Who knows?
- 52:25I love that Devi got a bit of focus from the start and had
- 52:28that. Oh shit.
- 52:29I get it in that moment. It's kind of like us wrestling
- 52:32fans when we finally realized that the stories are fire.
- 52:37Like freaking what's his name? Roman Reigns.
- 52:40Still champions. Still the fucking storyline that
- 52:43he's in the LWO, the thing with the Everybody, all right, now,
- 52:52what's going on right now? That's what the stories are all
- 52:55about. But for her, it was more like
- 52:57here for the check in the recognition.
- 52:59And once she realized it was like, exactly like soap operas
- 53:03de la novellas, all that stuff. Her fandom changed, her opinion
- 53:08of it changed, and she knew exactly what to do next.
- 53:12I love that Ruth save the day. At the last second she pulled
- 53:16the Soviet Union character from talking to the Oh my God, no,
- 53:21no. One more time she pulled that
- 53:25Soviet Union character from talking to the hotel staff and
- 53:29she figured why not? Ha ha ha ha.
- 53:32Better. No I need to work on it.
- 53:35So now that Ruth found her real heel persona, the bad girl,
- 53:40something she can play around with, she will have to go
- 53:42against Devi and her Lady Liberty gimmick.
- 53:45USA versus the Soviet Yes, in the 80s.
- 53:50Oh my God, it's going to turn into something.
- 53:53Betty Gilpin. Debbie.
- 53:56Betty Devi was asked by Zara Bobo of the HuffPost what the
- 53:59scariest move she had to do. Debbie says probably the first
- 54:03time I just did a front three quarter flip, one of the first
- 54:07things we learned was don't tuck or you're fucked.
- 54:11If you don't tuck your chin, you will break your neck.
- 54:15So there are many moves when you're flipping over and you're
- 54:17not quite sure how far from the floor you are.
- 54:20And those first couple moves you're like, is my neck about to
- 54:23break? But the crossbody smash when I
- 54:25jump from the ropes onto Alison Brie?
- 54:28That was pretty scary the first couple times I did it too.
- 54:32Oh, you know the intro? When in the first episode when
- 54:36they did the whole thing? Yeah, that was it, right?
- 54:39I don't recall. She was also asked what her
- 54:41perception of wrestling was before hearing about GLOW.
- 54:45She says my original perception of GLOW was not a very +1.
- 54:49I didn't understand it at all and I thought it was kind of
- 54:52silly and ridiculous. But as I got to know, it was
- 54:55sort of like how people used to talk about musicals to me when I
- 54:58was younger. I love musical because I felt
- 55:01like breaking out in song makes so much sense to me because it's
- 55:04the stakes of how you feel inside.
- 55:07Sometimes daily life doesn't match the high stakes that you
- 55:09feel, and I feel like that is wrestling.
- 55:13Wrestling actually makes sense to me.
- 55:15It's the story driven, It's character driven.
- 55:18Sometimes the way that you feel is screaming to the mezzanine.
- 55:21It's not quietly discussing someone.
- 55:24So once I realized how character and story driven wrestling was,
- 55:27I was fully on board. Great job.
- 55:31That's awesome. That's good to hear, Betty.
- 55:34And that's it for me in this episode.
- 55:38I I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it so much.
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