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The Late Debate | 22 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lee, welcome the Late Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, It's great to have your company. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for Caleb Bond,
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  Speaker 2: who's home unwell tonight. We wish you all the best.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb is Denika de Georgio. We've got a lot to
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  Speaker 2: get through tonight, including Sunshine Coast Twins go viral around
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  Speaker 2: the world after a TV interview. You've got to see
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  Speaker 2: to believe. We'll show you that a little later. Plus
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  Speaker 2: when we look at what's making news tomorrow, Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 2: with a big announcement on defense spending and the cyclist
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  Speaker 2: involved in a crash involving Dan Andrews awarded a massive payout.
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  Speaker 2: All of that coming up shortly, but first let's start
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  Speaker 2: the program by asking how do you think the Teals
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  Speaker 2: elected on a platform of transparency and integrity are going.
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  Speaker 2: Here's how Teal MP Monique Ryan began when elected to
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  Speaker 2: Parliament three years ago. Have a listened.
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  Speaker 3: In recent years, the people of Australia have lost faith
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  Speaker 3: in our political system. We have been shamed by the
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  Speaker 3: lack of integrity and transparency that it has shown. We
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  Speaker 3: have lost trust in its processes. And have become disaffected
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  Speaker 3: and disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: Well that was then, But here's Melik Ryan. Now, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We don't want to interrupt, but we just wanted to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we are well in the interest of bit of transparency.
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  Speaker 5: We just thought maybe we just want to know how
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  Speaker 5: your campaign's going this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thanks, Laura, I am here to engage your photos
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  Speaker 3: through a prepole.
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  Speaker 2: It's at election. Yeah, so I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Sure that this really ideal for you to be interrupting
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  Speaker 3: that process.
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  Speaker 4: Have you had any other have you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what process our Sky News colleague Laura
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  Speaker 2: Jays was interrupting. If Meniku Ryan wants to engage with voters,
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought, Liz and Anika that talking to
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  Speaker 2: the media is a pretty good and standard way to
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  Speaker 2: engage with voters. Is this what the teals mean by
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  Speaker 2: politics done differently?
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  Speaker 4: Clearly?
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  Speaker 1: Clearly it looks exactly like the old model.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm a little bit confus here.
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  Speaker 1: It always amuses me when politicians do this while they're
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  Speaker 1: scurrying away from cameras, being like, oh, I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of something else. I've got somewhere else to be
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  Speaker 1: talk to us, like where your employer, because we are
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  Speaker 1: we pay your salary, we elect you, we get to
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  Speaker 1: decide whether or not you get another gig, and you
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  Speaker 1: bet your bottom dollar, lady. There are plenty of people
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  Speaker 1: in Quyong who watch Sky, so by talking to Laura Jays,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably talking to thousands of those voters whose votes.
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  Speaker 4: You want to turn in your direction.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not going to happen, though, if you're watching Sky, Tanika.
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  Speaker 6: No, definitely not.
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  Speaker 5: And look here we go again with that money crime.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry doctor money cry, Please don't get that wrongs getting
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  Speaker 5: that one.
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  Speaker 6: Rosbie is DoD Monique Ryan. But look here we go again.
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  Speaker 5: There seems to be some confusion for a person who
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  Speaker 5: was elected on a platform of integrity and transparency, doctor
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  Speaker 5: Monique Ryan just can't quite grasp that concept.
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  Speaker 6: Now. What I particularly liked it from that clip was
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  Speaker 6: she couldn't just come out and you know, say a
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  Speaker 6: couple of lines.
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  Speaker 5: She then had to get a junior staffer, I presume
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  Speaker 5: it was a junior staffer to trot ride in and
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  Speaker 5: then say to Laura Jay's, no, no, sorry, she doesn't
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  Speaker 5: want to speak. There she is on screen again. If
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  Speaker 5: you're at a public spot, you want to be elected,
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  Speaker 5: you can't be acting shocked and surprised when the media
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  Speaker 5: comes knocking at your door wanting to ask genuine questions
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  Speaker 5: about integrity, because well, who could forget this classic moment
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  Speaker 5: from Anique Ryan only a few weeks ago on the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: You'd have to give that some thought.
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  Speaker 3: Well, uh, I would think that it would be clear.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think.
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  Speaker 4: I'd have to give you some thought.
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  Speaker 5: Oh dear, it never gets any better to watch that.
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  Speaker 5: But this just is what bothers me about the tials.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not just talking solely about Monique Ryan. I'm
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  Speaker 5: talking about.
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  Speaker 6: All of the tills.
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  Speaker 5: They always run away when it comes to anything that
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  Speaker 5: I want to talk about. It's run, run, run, Well,
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  Speaker 5: how are you supposed to vote for you if you're
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  Speaker 5: going to run away?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's your point out. It's not just the teal
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  Speaker 2: politicians who run away, it's also their husband's his Monique
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  Speaker 2: Ryan's husband taking down liberal coreflute signs and running away.
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  Speaker 6: They hang on, mate, what are you doing? I'm taking
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  Speaker 6: the yeah, beg you pardon, I'm taking the side out.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing that for?
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  Speaker 4: It's on public land.
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  Speaker 2: What amazes me, Liz is how many sections of the
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  Speaker 2: media continue to fam over the Teals who have been
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  Speaker 2: exposed over the past three years as rank hypocrites when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to integrity and trans experiency. They're as bad
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  Speaker 2: as everybody else. They are not distinguishing themselves at all,
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  Speaker 2: and yet certain sections of the media continue to fawn
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  Speaker 2: over them as if there's some new revelation of political
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  Speaker 2: discourse in the country. They're not. They're the same as
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  Speaker 2: everybody else, if not worse.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, and it's going to be very interesting to see
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  Speaker 1: how they go this second round, because only once can
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  Speaker 1: you tell people we're going to be so different, We're
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  Speaker 1: going to be standouts this lot. We are not like them.
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  Speaker 1: You can't pull that one trick pony twice.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Around the nation yesterday, early voting centers opened everywhere the
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  Speaker 1: game is on, except for in Quaker's Hill, where a
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  Speaker 1: truck bearing liberal signage pulled into the Quaker's Hilk Community
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  Speaker 1: Center and promptly struck the voting center so hard it
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  Speaker 1: shunted its roof on to the vehicle, So that has
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  Speaker 1: been shut down for safety purposes.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're in Quakers.
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  Speaker 1: Hill and you are hoping to go to your early
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  Speaker 1: voting center, well it's just not gonna happen. But get this,
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  Speaker 1: when the driver realized what he'd done, he promptly removed
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  Speaker 1: the Liberal signage.
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  Speaker 4: Here is, oh, here is. We're watching him do it,
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  Speaker 4: So nobody knew that this was a Liberal truck that
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  Speaker 4: had done this.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, he's designaging here's truck.
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  Speaker 4: So it could have been any truck.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been anyone that had done this, which
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  Speaker 1: makes it even more hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you did the crime. Just put your hand
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  Speaker 4: up and be like, ah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know why the Liberal Party truck crashed, don't you. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't turn right hard enough. That was the problem. But
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  Speaker 2: of course it makes a mockery of the Liberal slogan
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  Speaker 2: back on track. It certainly doesn't seem to be back
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  Speaker 2: on track, but at least they can say their campaign
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been a train wreck.
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  Speaker 5: You are really rolling out these punk rehearsing all night. Look,
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  Speaker 5: the cover up is always worse than the crime, is it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they shouldn't have been ripping that material.
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  Speaker 6: Off, though.
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  Speaker 5: I do spare a thought for the people of Quakers
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  Speaker 5: Hill now because the Australian Electoral Commission has come out
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  Speaker 5: saying that perhaps this facility, this particular pre pole facility
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  Speaker 5: may need to be relocated in the next couple of
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  Speaker 5: days because of this accident.
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  Speaker 6: You're a thought for Quaker's Hill.
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  Speaker 2: At the very least, Sime stopped the voats and stopped
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  Speaker 2: the vote.
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  Speaker 6: That's live.
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  Speaker 4: We're roof off this play. That's how amazing we are.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you miss the leader's debate tonight, news flash,
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  Speaker 1: you missed nothing. They said nothing except for the same old,
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  Speaker 1: crusty lines that you've already heard for weeks. I've said
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  Speaker 1: it before, these debates.
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  Speaker 4: Fall on deaf ears when for.
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  Speaker 1: The better part of an hour, whoever is currently in
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  Speaker 1: power and their opponent, in this case the leaders, but
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  Speaker 1: we've heard from.
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  Speaker 4: The energy ministers, et cetera, and so on.
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  Speaker 1: All they seem to do at nauseum is state facts
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  Speaker 1: the other one. It chooses them of lying, then the
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  Speaker 1: other one. It chooses the other one of lying, and
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  Speaker 1: everyone sat at home going okay, well, who's telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: For a perfect example of this from tonight's debate, look
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  Speaker 1: no further. When they got to the hot topic of
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  Speaker 1: health cuts.
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  Speaker 7: The Prime Minister stands here with a straight face and
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  Speaker 7: says what he knows not to be true, And I
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  Speaker 7: think again, it'd be great to see him called out
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  Speaker 7: because he continues to repeat these mistruths and Australians deserve
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  Speaker 7: better from Well they're prime, Minister, that's true.
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  Speaker 8: You described it as a cut if you were twenty
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  Speaker 8: fourteen budget described it as a cut as a saving.
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  Speaker 2: If you'll been honest, fifty health EACHYB and education.
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  Speaker 8: You ripped eighty dollars out of those two items in
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  Speaker 8: two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 7: Minister, you couldn't liice straight in bed. Honestly, this is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: It can go to abuse. Well, it's just the gas
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  Speaker 2: for real abuse.
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  Speaker 8: That's a sign of desperation. Frankly, as he's lying, that's
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  Speaker 8: a sign of desperation.
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  Speaker 1: And nobody's sitting at home. Is any the wiser telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth here? Nobody knows and who's got the time
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  Speaker 1: to do the research. That's why they watched the debate.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to get a clear idea about these two
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  Speaker 1: and what they stand for. But I got to give
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  Speaker 1: it to him Albo when asked about cost of living, well,
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  Speaker 1: he did really well tonight.
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  Speaker 7: Are you prepared to repeat that pledge that in another
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  Speaker 7: three years time?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 8: We certainly want people to be better off in three
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  Speaker 8: years time, and that is what it's about.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what you said three years ago, and nobody
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  Speaker 1: is I got to say. I think the star of
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  Speaker 1: tonight's debate was the moderator, who, before either of them
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  Speaker 1: had said a word, opened the debate by saying, well, guys.
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  Speaker 4: The polls show that one in three Aussies isn't voting.
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  Speaker 1: For either of you, so go your hardest. I'm paraphrasing,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought it was a mic drop moment just
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  Speaker 1: to look at the amount of Assies.
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  Speaker 4: That's a huge majority.
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  Speaker 1: Well not majority, but obviously one in three that is massive,
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  Speaker 1: being like, we are not voting for either of the
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  Speaker 1: major parties this time round.
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  Speaker 4: Was sick of both of them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And this is the problem right now because look,
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  Speaker 5: I actually think that Peter Dutton performed very well in
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  Speaker 5: that debate. I think it was his sharpest performance compared
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  Speaker 5: to the one on the ABC last week where he
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  Speaker 5: did look more stress more nervous, even though.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that was good.
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  Speaker 5: But the thing for Peter Dutton now is he needs
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  Speaker 5: some knockout blows. There's only two weeks left of the campaign.
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  Speaker 5: He now has to come firing on all fronts because
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  Speaker 5: the Poles are against him. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 5: disillusioned voters out there. The soft vote is higher than
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  Speaker 5: ever and he needs to try and convince those voters
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  Speaker 5: to come over to his side.
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  Speaker 6: Form very well.
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  Speaker 5: The question is that going to be enough now to
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  Speaker 5: convince the disillusioned voter, to convince the undecided voter.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not so sure. Again.
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  Speaker 5: Albanisi showed his true colors tonight when it came to
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  Speaker 5: the cost of living. It goes to show he really,
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  Speaker 5: in the last three years hasn't quite got a grasp
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  Speaker 5: on what the cost of living crisis is. My standout
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  Speaker 5: moment of this debate though, was when the leaders were
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  Speaker 5: both asked about the would you preference another party? And
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  Speaker 5: this is what they said, have a look at this.
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  Speaker 4: Will you do a deal with minority parties?
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  Speaker 6: Prime Minister no, mister Dutton, not with.
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  Speaker 7: The Greens, but with independence. And that's not a truthful
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  Speaker 7: answer from the Prime Minister there of this. It's not
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  Speaker 7: that the Labor Party will fall over themselves to do
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  Speaker 7: a deal.
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  Speaker 2: With the Greens.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's just you preference them.
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  Speaker 8: Truth put forward put forward by Peter Well.
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  Speaker 5: We obviously know that Anthony Albanesi is lying here because
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  Speaker 5: the polls say it's like to be a minority. A
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: minority Labor Greens and Till's government a couple of tills
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  Speaker 5: scattered in here and there. Anthony Albanesi will definitely do
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  Speaker 5: a deal with the Greens when push comes to shove.
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  Speaker 6: We saw it back in the Gillard era.
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  Speaker 5: It was a disaster back then, but this brand of
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  Speaker 5: Greens is even more dangerous. They are a disaster for
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  Speaker 5: this country. And we can rest assured that Anthony Aarbernesi,
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  Speaker 5: despite his ducking and weaving on the issue, he will
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  Speaker 5: do a deal if he has to.
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  Speaker 2: Jake, I'm sure he will. What's fascinating, and you made
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  Speaker 2: the point. Peter Dutton's got, what is it, ten days
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  Speaker 2: left of this campaign. He's got to come out firing
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  Speaker 2: and this, to me is the fascinating part of tonight's
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  Speaker 2: debate and the next week and a bit going forward.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton has to nail Anthony Albanesi. But the problem
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  Speaker 2: he has is people are put off by his hard
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  Speaker 2: man image. So he's trying to sell himself as soft
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  Speaker 2: and as relatable and as a guy that we would
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  Speaker 2: all warm to. But it's very hard to maintain that
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  Speaker 2: image while nailing the Prime Minister as a liar and
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  Speaker 2: a fraud. And you saw that in the that you
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  Speaker 2: played earlier, Liz, where he's accusing Anthony Albanesi of not
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  Speaker 2: being able to lie straight in bed. But he's just
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  Speaker 2: not that convincing because instead of going really hard, you
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  Speaker 2: feel like he's pulling his punches because he knows he
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  Speaker 2: can't come across as a hard man. Richard Miles, the
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  Speaker 2: Deputy Prime Minister, made the point after the debate that
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  Speaker 2: Dutton had come across as agro and it's very clear
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  Speaker 2: what the Labor Party are going to do. Anthony Alberzi
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  Speaker 2: accused Peter Dutton of being personal and launching abuse at
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  Speaker 2: him during the debate. So Dutton's got this problem. He's
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  Speaker 2: got to really nail Anthony Albanesi as deceitful and as
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  Speaker 2: a liar. And that's surely Elbanese's weakness in the electorate
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five dollars power decrease. We all
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  Speaker 2: know that was a lie, but how does he make
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  Speaker 2: that point forcefully enough while still being a good guy
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  Speaker 2: who's not the tough image that so many voters are rejecting.
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  Speaker 2: The leaders were asked what they admired about each other,
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  Speaker 2: which is always an interesting way of gauging not only
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  Speaker 2: their relationship but how gracious they are. Here's the response, are.
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  Speaker 6: Three things you would admire about him?
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  Speaker 8: Three I only ever prepare for.
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  Speaker 6: One was a problem.
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  Speaker 8: Let me say this, he that's way above his average
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  Speaker 8: with Kiraly.
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  Speaker 2: He has a terrific family.
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  Speaker 8: I've had the privilege and he clearly cares about them,
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  Speaker 8: and that's a terrific thing. Longevity in politics he's been
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  Speaker 8: We've been in Parliament for basically the same amount of time,
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  Speaker 8: almost both been there for more than twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: That's an achievement.
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  Speaker 7: Acknowledged the Prime minister's support of UCAS from opposition, and
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  Speaker 7: it wasn't an easy outcome. As he pointed out, he
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  Speaker 7: was satisfied that nuclear energy was safe, but he'd got
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: that through the caucus, which was a difficult thing and
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  Speaker 7: aucus when we negotiated it, it was about underpinning our security
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  Speaker 7: for the next century.
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  Speaker 2: I don't how many people who have noticed how clever
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton was there. He congratulated Anti Albanzi on his
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: support of ORCUS and managing to Convince Caucus that nuclear
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  Speaker 2: energy was safe, which of course goes to the labor
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  Speaker 2: campaign against nuclear power. Yeah, being used in the grid Dnika.
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  Speaker 6: Clever work by correct.
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  Speaker 5: I think the problem though with this debate overall, was
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  Speaker 5: it covered the same ground that we've heard time and
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  Speaker 5: time again, and what we actually want to see is
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  Speaker 5: a differentiation in policies and we yet.
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  Speaker 6: To see that, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 5: But look, let's move on, because of course it is
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Anzac Day this week.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but when I was in school,
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  Speaker 5: it was a day that we celebrated. It was a
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  Speaker 5: day that we paused to.
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  Speaker 6: Remember and it actually had meaning and significance.
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  Speaker 5: We were taught about the history of our ANZACs and
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  Speaker 5: it really really was important. But the question now in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five is how many school students actually now
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  Speaker 5: understand the important meaning behind that day. But there is
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  Speaker 5: now a new push to teach Ossie students about why
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  Speaker 5: war matters. I'm surprised we even have to go there.
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  Speaker 5: But the Center of Indo Pendant Studies adjunct fellow doctor
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  Speaker 5: Fiona Mueller says that students should be discussing the bigger
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  Speaker 5: meaning behind Anzac Day, such as why a free and
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: democratic country goes to war and why it matters. In
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, she said the number of young people
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  Speaker 5: who would be willing to fight for their country had
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  Speaker 5: decreased to just twenty seven percent. And she's blaming a
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  Speaker 5: lack of young people willing to fight for Australia a
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  Speaker 5: lack of understanding about the core Anzac values which we
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  Speaker 5: all know and love courage, makeship and sacrifice as well
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  Speaker 5: as humor to forge our nation's identity. Now, back in
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  Speaker 5: twenty thirteen, there was quite a disturbing survey which came
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  Speaker 5: out and it actually found that our students find Anzac
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  Speaker 5: day history deadly, boring and irrelevant to their lives. It
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  Speaker 5: found that students are more likely to value indigenous perspectives
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  Speaker 5: learning about the Stolen generation.
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  Speaker 6: At exploring history through refugee stories.
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  Speaker 5: And that is exactly the problem here because what we
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  Speaker 5: are seeing now and I think this is a direct
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  Speaker 5: correlation to this story, is in doctrination in schools, because
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  Speaker 5: kids are being taught not about the values that our
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  Speaker 5: Anzak's left us, and also that soldiers who continue to
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  Speaker 5: fight for us those core values.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: Of matship, perseverance.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: It's no longer that it is learning about indigenous culture,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: it is apologizing to the stolen generation. It is young
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: children being told no, no, no, it is your fault.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: It is your fault. And this is why the culture
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: wars matter, because this next generation is being brainwashed into
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: completely thinking that we are the enemy here in this country.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: That's why we see the protests on Australia Day, that
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: is why we constantly see these people wanting to tear
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: down the colony, as they constantly say. And that's what
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I think the key issue here is this is what
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the left want, and this is a direct result of
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: the lefts indoctrination.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They've spent decades reshaping and diluting our traditions and our institutions.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: And so now we find ourselves with the Chinese and
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the Russians starting to eye off our vast compt which
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: is completely defenseless, containing rich minerals, and only about a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: quarter of our young people say they'd bother to fight
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: for our country. Well, of course they wouldn't bother fighting
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: for our country, having been taught, as you said, Danika,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: about how terrible our country has been, the illegitimacy of
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: our country, rather than the Anzac spirit the courage, the sacrifice,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: and why it was so important that we defended liberty
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and democracy. Of course, human nature being what it is is,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you'd always prefer to hear the negative side of things
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: and how bad and how evil things were, rather than
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the stories of heroism and sacrifice. But of course those
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: stories aren't even being told. Kids learn the date of
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Gallipoli landing, they learn the geography of it, but it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: never explained to them why that battle was so important,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: why Australians were so motivated to fight. And we've got
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a real problem on our hands at a time where
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: everybody is saying we live in a very precarious geopolitical situation.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Our young people have been indoctrinated to leave that our
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: country is bad.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Indeed, no wonderingly twenty seven I'm surprised it's that high. Actually,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: twenty seven percent would fight for this country. I wouldn't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: fight for this country, and God knows I'm a fighter.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: But I'll tell you why.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: People want to say, oh, it's complicated, it's nuanced. It's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a culmination of reasons, multifarious reasons as to why every
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: single Western country cannot recruit to their military. Every single
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Western country is struggling to make anywhere near the number
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that they're allowed to have by law in their armed forces.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And this is the reason why, in my humble opinion,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and this is also the reason why I say I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: would not fight for Australia as it is today.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: The answer is, we don't have.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: A homogeneous society anymore.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: A third of us weren't even born.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Here, and people who come here have divided loyalties. I'm
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: not blaming them for that. If I came from somewhere else,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: my ultimate loyalty would be to my motherland. You can
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: bet your bottom dollar back. In the seventies, Malcolm Frasier
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and Golf Whitlam decided that multicultural Australia was going to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: be a multicultural society. We were going to throw out
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: our homogeneous society. We were not going to stop requiring
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: people who come here to assimilate.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Instead, now we.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Welcome millions of people from all over the world and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: encourage them to keep their own culture, to keep their own.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Set of values.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And they have moved here in the millions, and what
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: do they do when they get here. They find enclaves
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of their own communities and they live there. We do
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: not have a homogeneous society. We do not have shared values.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: How many times have we seen this play out in
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: our streets over the last couple of years, very precarious
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: times here in d I'm running out of breath.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I'm so passionate about this.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But I was watching a show recently and every single
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: ad break was a recruitment for our Australian Defense Force,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and I was like, mate, these guys are going hard.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But in wars of the past, there was no trouble
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: with recruitment men. Kids were lying about their age to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: get to the front lines. Why they fought for countries
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that still had homogeneous cultures. When they said I'm fighting
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: for God and country, they meant one God all the same,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: and they also meant my country, my culture. These people
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: are my people. We share the same values, we share
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the same ethos. We are pulling in the same direction,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and that is what I'm going to war for, because
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that's not going to change. You mention Russia, you mention China.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: You mentioned bricks, which we do not talk enough about.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: They are amassing such a huge number of countries that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: would be ready to do great damage to us. But
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: these are homogeneous cultures.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: They all hail soitarium. He raise a good point.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I don't think that the problem is is I don't
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: think we know what we're fighting for anymore. But that's
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: what and that's what identity I think. I think that
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the war is actually now being fought on our land
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: through these It has become almost like tribalism really when
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: you think about it, because the divisions in our society.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: And I completely agree with you on.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: That that people have imported their cultures here that don't
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: necessarily I'm not talking everybody, some people have imported that
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: culture here and they do not align with our values,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: or our society, or with a Western democracy, and that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: the problem. So that the war is no longer on
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: an international front. It's like we're fighting a war here
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: in our own backyard.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We mentioned our values, and the problem is people find
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: out very difficult to enunciate what our Australian values. And
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: typically you'll hear our political class say well, diversity is
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: our strength, but of course diversity is not a strength,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and no one's going to fight for diversity because diversity
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: is not something you can unify around. So it's because
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: of our values that we're able to handle diversity. But
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: diversity in and of itself is not something that anybody
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: is going to fight for because that's not a unifying feature.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So the problem is we can't identify values, and if
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you can't identify values, there's nothing for anyone to fight for.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So we've got to come together around what is our
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: defining feature. It's not diversity. We're to come back to it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to happen for the reasons I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just described. But we know every state and territory in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Australia except for Tasmania, is desperate for police recruits.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Some states have.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Vacancies of fifteen hundreds. Some states have vacancies of two
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: thousand offices that they're looking to recruit. So one wonders,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: has Thailand just unveiled.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: The future solution to this problem?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Check out this bad Boy, being hailed as.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: The world's first RoboCop.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It's equipped with three hundred and sixty degree cameras for eyes,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: facial recognition, weapons detection. This bad Boy can identify suspects,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: monitor threats, and sends data directly back to a central
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: command center in real time. Ladies and gentlemen, we have
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: seen the future and it is terrifying.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: Put Daniel weapon, you won't two seconds to complay.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I think you'd better do what he says, Mitter.
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: Kenny sense.
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: Fifteen quarant.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Truly terrifying stuff.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: And then we've got Alon Masks, the tech Wizard of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the World, talking about the fact that he's in the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: process of putting together a minimum of five thousand Optimius robots.
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: So this year we hopefully we'll be able to make
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: about five thousand Optimus robots. We're technically we're aiming for
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: enough parts to make ten thousand, maybe twelve thousand. We're
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: succeeding if we get to half of the tenth you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: half the ten thousand now, but even five thousand robots,
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: that's the size of a Roman legion, which is like
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: a little scary thought, Like a whole legion of robots,
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: I'd be like, whoa.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: How long before that thing's running you down and putting
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a bolt through your brain?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, these are truly terrifying times.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It's Oh my goodness, I genuinely am not intense.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: I am genuinely scared.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine coming up again said that this called
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: a AI police cyborg? I would be terrified if that
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: thing was staring me down the eye. Apparently it is
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: extremely tall. It towers over the rest of the force,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: and that's.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Apparently a huge giveaway.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: It has a three hundred and sixty degree AI camera
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: for eyes, allowing it to track what is going on
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: at all times.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: I really worry about this personally.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: I do not like the idea of safety and security
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: being dictated by a giant robot. Where is that information going,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: who is it filming, where is it filming.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: Where does that data go?
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: There's so many unanswered questions, and it comes back to
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: the whole issue of artificial intelligence, one that is clearly
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: unregulated around the world, unregulated here in this country. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: would be very scared, to be honest, I'm very worried
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: about this.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't trust the government with the robotic police officer.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Would you trust the government with a robotic cop that
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: towers over everybody?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: James?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It makes so much sense. My problem with these things
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you can't negotiate with them, you can't talk to them
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: or reason with them, so they're pre programmed. There's no
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: nuance at all, which is why in twenty twenty, when
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the New York Police Department introduced the Digidog, which was
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a robotic police dog. Very quickly, residents were up in arms.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It didn't help that they introduced these robotic dogs in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: public housing, which just got everybody up in arms. But
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the New Yorkers did not put up with this. So
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to see whether thaie people. I can understand.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: In China they're using robotic police dogs. They've got a
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: robotic police sphere that rolls across land and through water
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: twenty two miles per hour, chasing potential criminals. I'm not
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: sure whether in democratic nations we would put up with
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: these things. Hey, we've just had easter, right, and so
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: get this. The day after Jesus rose from the dead,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum, resigned coincidence.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I think not.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I think not. Klaus Schwab, who, as I said, heads
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: up the World Economic Forum, announced his resignation with a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: statement saying, following my recent announcement and as I enter
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: by eighty eighth year, I've decided to step down from
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the position of chair and as a member of the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Board of Trustees with immediate effect. Now, of course, the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: World Economic Forum essentially is a shadow government, exercising influence
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: without election and policy without consent. Klaus Schwab began in
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one gathering elites from around the world in
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Davos to plan how they could implement a globalist society, which,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of course is the enemy of national sovereignty and of
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: many of the freedoms that we enjoy. Klaus Schwab will
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: now end his chairmanship of the World Economic Forum, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I'm proud to say I've not yet eaten bugs. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: do own things. However, I'm not very happy because their
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: influence has been quite pernicious. Of course, the election of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has started to undermine Klaus schwall globalistic dreams.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: His Trump speaking at the World Economic Forum. I don't know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is why Klaus Schwab was chosen to get out.
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: My administration has taken action to abolish all discriminatory diversity,
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: equity and inclusion nonsense. And these are policies that were
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: absolute nonsense throughout the government and the private sector. With
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: the reason yet somewhat unexpected great Supreme Court decision just
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: made America will once again become a merit based country.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: You have to hear that word merit based country.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: When you hear Trump talking like that at the World
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Economic Forum, is you realize why Trump was so opposed, Because,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: of course Klaus Schwab boasted he had young World Economic
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Forum leaders positioned in places of power influence right around
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the world, justin Trudeau being one of the most famous.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I think just Sinta Adirn another one in New Zealand.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is the end of the world.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: It can make Forum by any stretch. I think Claus
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Schwab is smart enough to orchestrate a change so that
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it continues to exercise influence. But you do have pushback
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: from people like Trump, from meloo in Argentina, from the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Italy. So the battle is well and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: truly on between nation states and globalist elites.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Venue the arnofficial one World government, I mean, the globalist
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: will rebrand. There's no way Claruk Schwab is going to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: be replaced by someone good.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: But this was the guy who.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Told everyone to eat the bugs, who campaigned for climate
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: de grow through really weird digital policies that everybody else
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: knows and indeed referred to as digital communism, like as
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Central Digital Banking System and all the rest of it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: This guy stood for everything we rail against, and he'll
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: be replaced by somebody else who does as well. Is
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: a clip of him acknowledging that it's not working. Everything
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I've built, everything I've campaigned for tirelessly. I'm about to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: turn eighty eight, and none of it's worked.
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: You have this anti system movement. What we are seeing
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: is a revolution against the system. So fixing the pression
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: system is not enough now, as it is, of course
• 31:28
  Speaker 12: a anti system which is called libertarianism, which means to
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: tear down everything.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Which creates.
• 31:42
  Speaker 12: Some kind of influence of government into private lives.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, and that's a marvelous thing. And thank god
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: populist governments are now arising that have pushed back very
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: comprehensively on the WEF's woke ideologies as well as all
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: their climate policies, with things like trumpling out of the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: parasp Cords Denika, which of course the WEF in the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: UN you're basically talking about the same body there. They've
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: got to know for at least the next four years.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: The writings on the wall. Of course it is.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And that's why I think conveniently he's jumped ship. Look
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: the world Economic Forum, and like other groups like the
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: United Nations. They're almost like these giant overlords, aren't they.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: They don't actually do anything properly for the people. The
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: WIF once preached that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Well,
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: they are completely detached, let's be realistic from the lives
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: of ordinary people. You've got Klaus who often wears his
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: little Game of Thrones outfit if you've seen it. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: don't know why he wears this little black suit that
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: he wears, but.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: On that occasion he was receiving a doctorate degree.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Nobody looks like an honor.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Again again, it goes to the overlord themes. All right, fine,
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: it was doctor a grave, but it's an overlord thing.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: But it is an agenda with a centralized control model.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: And the other thing I would also say about Klaus
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: is is that he actually wrote a book called COVID
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: nineteen The Great Reset in when he basically said what
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: a wonderful thing COVID nineteen is for the world.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: Again, this is a man so out of touch.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: I think that he's jump ship at the right time
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: because he knows that Donald Trump has come in and
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: saying we don't want any more of this sort of
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: nonsense and he's gone.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: There is another possibility as to why he's chosen to
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: get out now, he said, as you pointed out, you'll
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: own nothing and be happy. Maybe figures you know what,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: there's no need for him. Anthony Albanezi has done it
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: for him. Maybe that's the most increase of own very little.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's why he thought, well, look, we've got to
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: talk about the ABC, don't we, Because guess what they'll
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: be soon coming to another billboard.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Next you near you.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Yes, they are spending more and more of our taxpayer
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: dollars to try and promote themselves. This time they've struck
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: an advertising deal between themselves and Australia's outdoor media company
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: called oh Media. Oh Media, and we'll see the public
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: broadcasters news content featured on billboards on street furniture around
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: the country. And it's going to cost you and I
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: in between three million to four million dollars annually over
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: the next four years. It's going to take effect in
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: the next couple of months. So look what we've got
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: a situation here now is millions of dollars our money
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: is now being spent.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: So to remind everyone.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: That they've got to watch the ABC and that's a
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: solution to why nobody is watching the ABC. So well
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: done to the chairman, well done, more waste of our money.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with this. I mean, overall
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: they have one point one billion dollars in funding. If
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: they spend what three million dollars on advertising, that's pretty conservative,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: effects vaguely conservative thing about the ABC. But we can't
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: have it both ways. We can't say no one watches
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the ABC and the ABC aren't allowed to let people
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: know what is available. I think that would be wrong
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: to do that. The question is whether they're advertising is
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: misplaced because clearly it's not working, or whether perhaps the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: content they're advertising is not what people want.
• 35:21
  Speaker 13: Why do you have to advertise a free product like
• 35:24
  Speaker 13: people really not know about the national broadcaster? Really, there's
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: people living in Australia who need to see ads that
• 35:32
  Speaker 13: are like watch the ABC.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: They are oh what's the ABC?
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Never heard of it?
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: If they don't tune in.
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: If they don't advertise, I don't product to watch when
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: it's free and people still aren't taking you up away offer.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: In my suburb at the moment, it's that dumping time
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: where everyone puts their stuff that they don't want out
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: on the curb, and people come with their cars all
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the time. I see them out on my walk literally
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: just rating the sidewalks.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: People love free stuff, But when it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Comes to the ABC, these guys honestly think spending three
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to four million dollars on advertising is going to up
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: their ratings. They've got Buckley's chance, it's free and people
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: still don't want you.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I think they're three million dollars advertising is well spent.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It makes sure that I know what I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to be watching. We're going to go to a break.
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  Speaker 2: When we come back, look at what's making news, including
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton with a big announcement on defense, all of
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: that more in just a moment. Welcome back. Let's look
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. Will start with
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the Queensland Career Mail. The headline there reads Dutton's big
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Guns Opposition pledged to spend twenty one billion dollars on defense.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I should point out that's twenty one billion dollars more
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  Speaker 2: than the Labor Party are intending on spending redefense. Peter
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  Speaker 2: Dutton would invest twenty one billion dollars into Australia's defense
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  Speaker 2: program over five years if he's elected Prime Minister, live
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  Speaker 2: thing spending to two point five percent of GDP by
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  Speaker 2: the end of the decade, amid increased competition with China
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  Speaker 2: and Russia in the Indo Pacific. The article goes on
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  Speaker 2: to say that Dutton will announce the injection of an
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  Speaker 2: extra twelve billion dollars over the next four years, with
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the remaining nine billion to be spent by twenty thirty,
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  Speaker 2: now with ten days to go to the election. Clearly
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  Speaker 2: the Coalition believe this is their strength national security, and
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  Speaker 2: indeed that's been the case. So he'll accuse Labor of
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  Speaker 2: making Australia less safe, and it's a good argument. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've had Chinese warships off the coast of Sydney with
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  Speaker 2: live ammunition being fired. We only know about it because
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: thankfully a Virgin pilot managed to pick up on it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: We've had Russians wanting apparently to have bases in Indonesia
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  Speaker 2: and Albanesi has not handled any of that transparently or well.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a good argument to make the Labor government
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: say we're living in precarious times. Well, what are they doing?
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  Speaker 2: They're spending clearly is a lot short of what it
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  Speaker 2: should be on defense. The question lives is whether enough
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  Speaker 2: voters care about this as a singular, singularly important issue
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  Speaker 2: that they would vote for the coalition despite thinking that
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Labour are probably better on things like cost of living,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: which are probably felt more keenly than the idea that
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: we may be invaded by a foreign power.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, two things on this.
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  Speaker 1: Firstly, why would you leave it this late to announces.
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  Speaker 2: Because it coincides with Anzac day?
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  Speaker 6: It's beautiful, but who cares?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry that everybody cares about the poeticism of an election policy.
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  Speaker 1: L You might you might have put that together, but
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  Speaker 1: the average punter reading this headline will not be like, oh,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: because it's Ian zach on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Secondly, I'm sorry, it really doesn't matter what Darton pledges
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  Speaker 1: in my honest opinion, because of the end of the day,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I've been in politics for over ten years. That's not
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: including my time in media. I've worked for politicians across
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the board. Polls get people hopeful, bloody blah dy blah.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, all that matters is
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the electoral math, and in order for the Libs to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: flip over twenty seats. God himself would have to flex.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just not going to happen this time round.
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  Speaker 4: And you can quote me on election man.
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  Speaker 5: I actually think this is great. I do agree though
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: with Liz that this should have happened a lot sooner.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Do people care though this late in the game, I'm
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: not so sure. I don't think it's going to flip votes.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: It's a really good policy. We know, like a lot
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: of experts actually say that we are not we don't
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: have the capability right now to defend ourselves in the
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: event of war because our defense is so weak right now,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: it's gone woke. We know that there is the recruitment issues.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Great policy, but I just think maybe too little, too.
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  Speaker 2: Late that The other part that he's going to announce tomorrow,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: which I did think was interesting, was a new National
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Defense strategy, which at first we may roll our eyes
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: singing on another white paper from the Defense Department. What
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: will be unique about it, and it was something pushed
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: for by the late Senator Jim Molan is it won't
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: be put together by bureaucrats, still be put together by
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: eminent Australians who have expertise and experience in this area,
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  Speaker 2: and it'll be the first defense strategy in a number
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of years reflecting the changed environment. I think that's a
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  Speaker 2: good idea as well, enough to win an election. Probably not, No,
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  Speaker 2: probably not at this point.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Well, let's move on now to the Herald Sun. Their
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: headline is Dan Crash Hush cash. A cyclist struck by
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Daniel and Catherine Andrews SUV has pocketed a secret out
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: of court settlement worth several hundreds of dollars. Major law
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: firms Slater and Gordon has hundred thousand. Sorry, major law
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: firms Slater and Gordon has agreed to hand over the
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: massive payout to bike boy Ryan Muhlman. Just weeks before
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: an explosive Supreme Court trial was due to begin, Ryan's
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: lawyer confirmed a confidential set had been reached over the
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: families claim that the law firm failed to act in
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: his best interest in the aftermath of the crash. But
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: the dispute is far from over with, with the Mulmans
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: moving to pursue the former Victorian premier and his wife
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: directly through the courts over the near fatal twenty thirteen crash. Look,
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: this is a long this has been an ongoing saga. Really,
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: that has been twelve years. It's been a long time.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: It's clearly not going away. Obviously it's difficult to talk
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: about given it is now legal matter, but it is
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: not going away. And I think that realistically the public
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: deserve transparency on this matter. I mean, it's been something
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: that has dogged him since he was premier.
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  Speaker 2: That's the astonishing thing about this case. And as you said,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: it's an ongoing court issue. But for something to be
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: going on this long, involving such prominent people is quite
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: quite amazing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Indeed, to the front page of The Australian now clamped
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: down on spending, IMF warns, tell us something we don't know.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Australia's next government must rebuild its fiscal buffers, clean up
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: public to spending and urgently enacts enact tax reform in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: preparation for a sharp slow down in economic growth as
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's global trade war increases the chance of a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: US recession. The International Monetary Fund says, well, thanks for
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that grocery list of things that neither of the leaders
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: have talked about this entire campaign season.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: It is such a statement of the obvious and great article.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: You should read the rest of it. Great work by
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Matthew Krenston and Jack Qua. But seriously, now we're getting
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: advice from the other side of the world for what
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the average punter on the street knows. And yet again
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: we have not heard either of the men running to
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: be the next prime minister or the current one just
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: copy paste discuss.
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  Speaker 4: Any of those.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's been like the their elephant in the room
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: this election campaign. Not one of them have come out
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: with serious economic policy for this country.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: We had Peter Dutton come out.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: It was a thought more than anything about to change
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: the tax system, but it was a thought bubble. There
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: wasn't anything concrete, and that should have happened at the
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: start of the campaign.
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  Speaker 6: I do agree.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I just think that there hasn't been any thought given
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: to how to make deep inroads to try and fix
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: things in our economy.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you hate to live in a country that was
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: both militarily weak and economically weak all at the same
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: time when enemies are circling That would be a terrible thing. Wait,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that's the country we're living in and there's no one
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: to help.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: To the second headline on the OS, I'm sick of
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you white people.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Shut up, okay.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: The Aboriginal chairman of Wajerk, the corporation established to deliver
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Australia's biggest native title settlement, has been accused of screaming
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: at his chief executive, telling her she had quote better
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: watch out woman, as you're on noticed end quote. A
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: fellow Woodjack board member also allegedly shouted at Lisa Dobrin,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: who is not Aboriginal, quote I'm sick of you white people.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Sit down and shut up. End quote. Well, this sounds
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: like it's going well.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: The Australian has been told of allegations of intimidation, threats
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and wild workplace scenes involving the three remaining directors at
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: wood Jack, the largest of six Aboriginal corporations created to
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: distribute the benefits of the one point three billion dollar
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Southwest Native tidal settlement in Perth and the state's southwest.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Well, this sounds like it's going marvelously.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: The problem, as recorded in the Australian last week, is
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that this Aboriginal corporation needs to give consent for major
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: infrastructure projects in Western Australia. Those have been delayed while
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: these guys sort themselves out, and as you say, there
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: seems to be a lot going on there. So it's
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: been things like another airport with a runway exactly, is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: stalled because of infighting in the Indigenous corporation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like a really great cultural organization to
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: be working for James.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: But you think they would have learned from their cultural
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: heritage laws.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: This is wa. This is the state that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Made cultural heritage laws in which you needed to get
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: permission from various elders and bodies and whatever if you
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to extend your driveway or dig a hole in
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: your backyard.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: That's how ridiculous it was.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: And then they had to trash it within months because
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: they realized nobody would be able to do anything. Now
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: they've just created the same problem again, but on a
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: much bigger scale.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Well, you think labor would learn from the voice, but
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: now they're instituting treaties all over the company. So there
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you go. We're going to go to a break when
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: we come back. Sunshine Coast Twins. We've gone viral around
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the world after an incredible television interview will show you
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that in just a moment. Welcome back, Well, Denika and Liz,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I've got twins sons, as you know, and they're twins
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: and they're close, but Liz, they I know when you're
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: as close as this pair of Sunshine Coast sisters that
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: made the news today.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Indeed, Bridget and Paula Powers have gone viral around the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: world give an interview after a horror carjacking escapade on
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the Sunshine Coast. But the escapade was almost just left
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: in the background after people had watched this interview, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: once you see it, I won't have to tell you why.
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  Speaker 10: And one guy, he was up there with our mom,
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: and he went up there and he was coming back
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: down the wards and he goes, run, he's got a gun.
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: And oh, our heart started a pound and I said, well, mom,
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: where's mom? And paul Mama was suck up there by
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: apparently our bravey mom. She goes, are you all right?
• 46:57
  Speaker 10: Because he had all bloood his face.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Just absolutely remarkable. The interview went for longer, and not
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: once did.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: They falter, talking over the top of each other, but
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: saying exactly the same thing in perfect chorus.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I just said, I think they are two beautiful women.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I love this story. I actually find it very heartwarming.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: And a bit of background as well their mum actually
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: was very pressured when they were younger to put them
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: into a home, but they screamed, and they screamed when
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: they were apart, so they actually came back together.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: And also they have an understanding of birds.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: They have a very good wildlife knowledge, which I think
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: is very sweet when they want more women like this
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: in the world.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a nice story. As I said, I've got
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: twins and they often have their own strange language, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: nothing like that. I saw that clip and just thought
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that is incredible. Speaking of incredible, check out the family
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: photo posted by Joe Biden for Easter and see if
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: you think it looks a little odd. There's the family
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: minus Hunter, I should point out or sitting on the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: steps of their Delaware home. But does Joe Biden look
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: a little odd there in his suit, his face made
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: up for TV, and the way he's sitting there will
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: is he standing? He certainly doesn't look like he's part
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: of it, which has led speculation that maybe he's photo
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: shopped himself into that photograph. It wouldn't be the first time, Liz,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: that Joe Biden's done something incredibly odd.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: It seems so obvious and Keen observers also notice the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: hand if we get it back up for you, the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: hand on the young man's shoulder to his left, our right, saying,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: whose hand is this?
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: What what's your being on?
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: They've clearly, well allegedly, I should say, rip someone out
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of the photo and photo shopped either him in their
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: place or in what was a blank space.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It would be back there seem that way. Well, that's
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: it from us, good night, stick around. Coming up is
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the readA Penney Show