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Ian Furness 11/2 H: Hugh Millen, ICYMI Greg Cosell and the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: by now. Biggest question we're wanting to find out is
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  Speaker 2: whether or not we're going to see Jadarian Price and
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  Speaker 2: Quinton Nelson is your left guard. Graze Abel moves to
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  Speaker 3: Hometown Remix.
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  Speaker 4: Hometown Remix jerseys. It's awesome. It's the anchor. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's sensational.
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  Speaker 3: The Space Needle anchor. It's so cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not just me, right?
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  Speaker 3: No, they're very cool. I like them a lot, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, people trust Ashley more than me on that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, so very cool. Sounders, major danger of missing
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. We blame Jackson.
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  Speaker 4: They lost, is this right, 5-1 to Vancouver. I saw
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  Speaker 4: that score yesterday. I'm like, no way. Jackson, get it going,
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  Speaker 4: will you please? What the hell's wrong with you?
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  Speaker 3: I bet he was not happy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure he's still grumpy when you see him
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  Speaker 4: coming in later on today. All right, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 4: Hardcore football, Hugh Mellon.
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  Speaker 1: here's Hugh with Ian Furness on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM.
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  Speaker 2: Frostbrook Coors Light. Coors Light, thank you. I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get through that because I've got Hugh Millen now. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to play a little snippet as well of Greg
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  Speaker 2: Cosell at 1.30 today. So I've got the minds of
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  Speaker 2: Millen and Cosell, the football minds that I respect the
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  Speaker 2: most on the show.
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  Speaker 4: So I wanted to get right to it. Hugh, how
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  Speaker 4: are you?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Great.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be sure to under-deliver for you. You can count
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  Speaker 3: on that. But thanks for the nice words.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: Big game tonight, huh?
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  Speaker 2: Big game. I was hoping the kid was going to
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  Speaker 2: be here. I was going to put him on. You
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  Speaker 2: guys could have talked to Quentin Nelson.
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  Speaker 3: But he's not down here yet.
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  Speaker 4: He's not down here yet.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Let me get to– this is something– and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: Hugh's going to join me again tomorrow. We'll do our
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  Speaker 2: normal post-game hardcore football tomorrow during the show.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's coming up tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: But today I wanted to get Hugh on on a
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  Speaker 2: Monday like we always have anyway because I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get your thoughts, kind of a preview for tonight. And
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  Speaker 2: then I heard a little bit, a little snippet at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the morning show with Anders and Chris.
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  Speaker 2: And that said, okay, I've got to have him expand
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  Speaker 2: on this. Let's talk about defending Caleb Williams. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: just tee it up for you with this, Hugh. You
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  Speaker 2: brought up how different he is in and out of
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  Speaker 2: the pocket, I believe it is, rolling to his right.
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  Speaker 4: So what is the concern there? What must Seattle do?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, a couple things. When he is
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  Speaker 3: out of the pocket, his yards per attempt, 8.9 yards
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  Speaker 3: per attempt is sixth. He's going to scramble, meaning choose
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  Speaker 3: to run it, at 29%. That's eighth in the league.
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  Speaker 3: And then he's going to throw it at least 20
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  Speaker 3: yards per, or more from the line of scrimmage exactly 20%
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  Speaker 3: of the time that's seventh in the league. So he's,
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  Speaker 3: he's a danger when he gets out of the pocket. He's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he can be a danger inside as well,
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  Speaker 3: but you really respect his ability to, to lengthen plays,
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  Speaker 3: to play off script. And I've watched the, the sack reel.
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  Speaker 3: He's got 12 sacks on there. In fact, I've watched
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  Speaker 3: it twice. And, on the very first one of the
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  Speaker 3: season against Carolina, it was a bootleg and the left
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  Speaker 3: hand got up and I'll tell you about his technique
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  Speaker 3: in a second. He got the sack that got the
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  Speaker 3: first guy, the other 11 sacks were all Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 3: made the first guy miss. He is, he has short,
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  Speaker 3: strong legs. He he's got great lateral agility is very strong.
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  Speaker 3: So he, he, he, breaks tackles, he, uh, lewds tackles.
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  Speaker 3: And so he's a load. So what you have to
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  Speaker 3: do is you have to come in as a right hand, uh,
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  Speaker 3: on a right-handed quarterback. You have to, to, um, you
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  Speaker 3: probably more likely to be in a bull rush because
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  Speaker 3: then you can play both the B gap, which is
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  Speaker 3: between the guard and the tackle and the C gap.
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  Speaker 3: When we talk about a B and C gap, that's
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  Speaker 3: usually run terminology, but applies in the pass rush. If
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  Speaker 3: you can visualize it as well. and you can't get
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  Speaker 3: higher than the quarterback, meaning if the ball's snapped at
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  Speaker 3: the 30-yard line and the quarterback is at the 25,
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  Speaker 3: you can't get past the 25-yard line to the 24-yard
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  Speaker 3: line because then he'll evade the pocket. He's looking for
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  Speaker 3: those escape hatches. There's exactly six if there's five linemen blocking,
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  Speaker 3: and he can find them. And if with only four rushing,
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  Speaker 3: then that means obviously there's two out of the six
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  Speaker 3: that are open. So you've got a kind of two gap, Ian,
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  Speaker 3: where you're in the middle when you're bull rushing, you
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  Speaker 3: can go to either side. So I think particularly to Williams' right,
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  Speaker 3: because that's the more dangerous part, is to let the
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  Speaker 3: right-handed quarterback out of the right side. I mean, I'll
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  Speaker 3: make you an analogy. You probably remember learning this at O'Day.
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  Speaker 3: If you accidentally put your elbow on a radiator that
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  Speaker 3: you did not know was behind you, the signal doesn't
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  Speaker 3: go to your brain. It goes to your spinal cord,
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  Speaker 3: and then you reflexively pull away from it. It's called
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  Speaker 3: spinal withdrawal reflex. Your brain doesn't even get involved. If
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  Speaker 3: you rush a quarterback, his impulse, it's like his brain
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  Speaker 3: doesn't even get involved. Like his spinal cord tells him
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  Speaker 3: to go to his right. And Caleb Williams as much
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  Speaker 3: as anybody. If you make a beeline right at him,
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  Speaker 3: he will go around you to the right. So getting
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  Speaker 3: back to what I promised you, I'd tell you about
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  Speaker 3: the technique that is exactly dead perfect that the Carolina
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  Speaker 3: dude did. I forgot his number. You go to a
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  Speaker 3: spot two yards to the right of the right-handed quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: And then close in on him. Because if you run
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  Speaker 3: straight at him, he's going to run around you. His
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  Speaker 3: brain will just, like I said, not even his brain.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to carry out the analogy, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: using imagery, obviously, here. But he is going to just
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  Speaker 3: reflexively get to that pocket. And the Seahawks have, they've,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's been a problem for them, for example.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, last year in the opening game, remember, was it Tongas,
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  Speaker 3: whatever the, the tight end catch the ball in front
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  Speaker 3: of Rick woman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, DeMarcus Lawrence had the contain and he let Brock
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  Speaker 3: Purdy out of the pocket. And now Bert, um, the
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  Speaker 3: play goes twice as long. You got to cover twice
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  Speaker 3: as long and Seattle loses the football game on that play.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody wants to blame it on Rick woman. And we,
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  Speaker 3: we ripped him for lack of competitiveness in the end zone,
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  Speaker 3: going after the ball. Um, but fundamental football, DeMarcus Lawrence,
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  Speaker 3: you got to keep the right end of quarterback in
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  Speaker 3: the pocket. Had that not happened, maybe Seattle wins that
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  Speaker 3: 49er game. You can't have, we can't be talking tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: You and me about the play that Caleb Williams made
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  Speaker 3: outside the pocket because Seattle edge guys went right at him.
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  Speaker 3: And then he was able to get around. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to, uh, downplay his, his ability to make plays
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  Speaker 3: to his left. He's great at that. Um, But there's
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  Speaker 3: a start, Ian, in terms of the game plan. You
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  Speaker 3: can't be selfish. You've got to break down. So when
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  Speaker 3: you're coming at him, even if nobody's blocking you, your
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  Speaker 3: ankles have got to get as wide as your shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're running at– drop your hips, get your feet wider,
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  Speaker 3: and then close in on him at the last second,
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  Speaker 3: last few feet, you can then close in on him.
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  Speaker 3: But you cannot just beeline at him. He's going to
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  Speaker 3: make you miss.
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  Speaker 2: And we're going to get to the offense in a
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  Speaker 2: second because I'll just tell people that we're getting reports that, again,
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price will play tonight. We'll get to that in
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  Speaker 2: a second. Let me wrap up this part of the
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  Speaker 2: conversation on defense with this. When we're talking about the edge, guys,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about Demarcus Lawrence, Derek Hall, Dante Fowler, that group, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't think Nwosu is going to play tonight.
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  Speaker 2: He's listed as doubtful, and that usually means no. So
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  Speaker 2: it's those guys, or is it, I believe, Drake Thomas
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  Speaker 2: is back tonight, Tyrese Knight.
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  Speaker 4: Is it just kind of a combination of all those guys?
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  Speaker 3: It's anybody who's coming off the edge. Leonard Williams.
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  Speaker 4: Eamon Worry. Eamon Worry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, any blitzer. It could be Witherspoon. Leonard Williams is
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  Speaker 3: probably going to play more end than he has because
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  Speaker 3: of Nwosu's absence. So maybe Riley Mills plays a few
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  Speaker 3: more downs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I like Riley Mills, man. I like him. He's shown flashes, right?
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  Speaker 4: He's shown flashes in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Put it this way. I like the idea of Leonard
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  Speaker 3: Williams being outside and Riley Mills being inside more than
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  Speaker 3: I like the idea of Leonard Williams inside and Mike
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  Speaker 3: Morris outside.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think you lose too much juice with Mike Morris.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the depth chart as an edge guy. And,
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  Speaker 3: of course, you've got Conor O'Toole who's hurt. So they've
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  Speaker 3: got some edge issues here. Leonard Williams, but again, the Blitzers, yes. Now,
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  Speaker 3: a couple things. In week one, when the Bears hung
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  Speaker 3: 59 on Carolina, you had.
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams at 239 yards outside the pocket, 14.1 yards
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  Speaker 3: per play. Then Minnesota, who put the clamps on him
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  Speaker 3: the next week, got him down to 62 yards and 5.2.
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  Speaker 3: So slash that, and then one final comment on it.
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  Speaker 3: If you watch the Bronco game and how Seattle played
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix in the second half, I think that's a key.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to see this. You had Seattle playing their
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  Speaker 3: zone defense because they're number one in the NFL playing zone,
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks. But then you had Eamon Worry aligning on
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage to eat up a blocker in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the communication. So he was not off ball.
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  Speaker 3: But then he would just kind of circle around, and
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  Speaker 3: he would just kind of linger on. He'd get loitered,
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  Speaker 3: like at a coffee shop. He'd just loiter and wait.
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  Speaker 3: And then whichever way Bo Nix flowed, then now here
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  Speaker 3: comes the turbo button with M and Worry. And he'll
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  Speaker 3: just kind of wait and see the direction Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 3: is going. And look, if there's one athlete on Seattle's
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  Speaker 3: team that I feel like they can spy Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 3: and kick Caleb Williams, a beautiful athlete. Hell, this morning
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  Speaker 3: I was comparing him to John Elway. Another number one
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  Speaker 3: overall who had great arm talent and great athletic elusiveness.
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  Speaker 3: But Eamon Worry, as Mike Holmgren says, the spies usually
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  Speaker 3: don't work. It's a nice idea on the whiteboard, but
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  Speaker 3: then the athletic quarterback makes the spy miss. Eamon Worry
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  Speaker 3: is one of the few guys in the league that
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  Speaker 3: you can actually say, you can spy. Not that Seattle, again,
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  Speaker 3: plays a lot of man-to-man, but They have them in
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  Speaker 3: a spy-ish capacity like they did against Bo Nix. And
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  Speaker 3: don't be surprised if Emanuari gets Caleb Williams down a
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  Speaker 3: time or two tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. Humil and hardcore football. Alright, we've got
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  Speaker 4: a few more minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Stories coming out now from Rapoport and others that indeed,
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price will be active tonight against the Bears. So
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  Speaker 2: we're expecting both Jadarian Price and Zach Charbonnet to be
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  Speaker 2: playing tonight. No corresponding roster move yet. I've I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to assume it's going to be Bayless Jones going to
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  Speaker 2: the injured reserve. He's hurt, and there's not a spot
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  Speaker 2: for him right now. So for the first time this year,
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  Speaker 2: you're probably going to have the running back rotation you envisioned,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that Charbonnet was going to miss some games. Jarrion Price,
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  Speaker 2: your first-round pick. Zach Charbonnet, who has a role, and
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  Speaker 2: we can discuss. And then my guess is Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 2: will return to what they had hoped, and that would
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  Speaker 2: be a short yardage back, not a lead back.
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  Speaker 4: And that's who and what he would be. So that's one, two, three.
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  Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson goes to left guard, and then your right
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  Speaker 2: guard is going to be Graves Abel. So what are
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  Speaker 2: realistic expectations, Hugh, from the run game, and what do
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  Speaker 2: you want to see?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I love, obviously, Quentin Nelson. I think that that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be an asset. And Jadarian Price, look, he's
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  Speaker 3: the only guy that can run the outside zone scheme,
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  Speaker 3: and Seattle's been a little bit stubborn. I mean, even
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  Speaker 3: to date with all of their injuries, they're the percentage
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  Speaker 3: of their runs that are outside zone is sixth in
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  Speaker 3: the league. Without a guy that can run it. Without
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  Speaker 3: a guy who can run it. And the duo play
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  Speaker 3: that scored late in the game against the Chiefs with
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  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson. Where we were saying, hey, they've got to
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  Speaker 3: run more duo and inside runs. Now, they're different blocking schemes.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have the time to go through them, but
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  Speaker 3: those are kind of more plunges right up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Duo's 29th, Seattle's 29th, and inside zone, they're 19th. One
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  Speaker 3: more time, outside zone, they're 6th. So they've been trying
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  Speaker 3: to run a scheme that doesn't fit their personnel, but
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  Speaker 3: it does fit Jadarian Price. And, by the way, I
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  Speaker 3: looked it up. The Colts are only... one team behind
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  Speaker 3: Seattle in the frequency. They're seventh in terms of outside zone.
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  Speaker 3: So you bring in Quentin Nelson. He can run any
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  Speaker 3: damn scheme in any playbook. So I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: make it sound like that's exclusive. But he'll run the
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  Speaker 3: outside zone. He can reach not just the outside zone
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  Speaker 3: to his side, the stretch left, but he'll be great
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  Speaker 3: at playing in space and getting those cutback blocks available
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  Speaker 3: to Jadarian Price, the very first play of the season
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  Speaker 3: for the Seattle Seahawks against the Patriots was a wide
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  Speaker 3: zone right. The Jadarian Price cut back all the way north,
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  Speaker 3: and it ended up being the backside C gap. So
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  Speaker 3: it was supposed to be frontside D gap, and it
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  Speaker 3: landed backside C gap for 13 yards. Those kind of
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  Speaker 3: blocks on the backside allow that kind of run. On
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  Speaker 3: that occasion, Zabel made a nice block as a left guard.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to see an even higher level of blocking
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  Speaker 3: on those backsides and front sides, of course, with Quentin Nelson.
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  Speaker 3: And then Price, the ability to run the wide zone
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  Speaker 3: and that juice, that's what the offense needed. This is
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  Speaker 3: coming none too soon, particularly when you consider Shahid for
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  Speaker 3: whatever it's been worth. Maybe there's been a threat there,
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  Speaker 3: but you take some speed off the field with Shahid.
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  Speaker 3: Now you add it with Jadarian Price. and the ability, again,
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  Speaker 3: with a hopefully improved offensive line blocking for you, this
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  Speaker 3: is good news for the Seattle Seahawks offensive line. Can't
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  Speaker 3: wait to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Hugh, in the back of my mind, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you, in the back of my mind,
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  Speaker 2: I like what I've seen, and you articulated that really
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  Speaker 2: well in terms of that run with Price. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: those flashes. When he runs the ball, we've seen flashes
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  Speaker 2: of why he's a first-round pick.
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  Speaker 4: Ball security, though, man.
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  Speaker 2: In the back of your mind, in the back of
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  Speaker 2: the coach's mind, because it's in the front of my mind,
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  Speaker 2: is there a concern with ball security with this guy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he came into the league. He had the
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  Speaker 3: third highest fumble rate in the draft class. He's laid
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  Speaker 3: a couple down. And I would just say, hey, follow
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  Speaker 3: James Cook in Buffalo. He had a couple punch-outs against him.
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  Speaker 3: And from that juncture, he's running through, when he runs
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  Speaker 3: between the tackles, he's got his arms crossed over like
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  Speaker 3: an X. He's got two hands on it. Even when
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  Speaker 3: he's not necessarily about to have imminent contact, he's just
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  Speaker 3: covering up with two hands as he's going. And so
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  Speaker 3: he made an in-season adjustment. There's a veteran. So somehow
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  Speaker 3: or another, through urgency or technique or the combination of
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  Speaker 3: the both, Price has got to stop that right now.
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  Speaker 3: Dick Baird.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Dick.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: But look, he's a first-round draft pick. He's got the
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: juice when you watch him on the wide zones. I mean,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I think he's 7.6 yards per attempt when he takes
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: the ball outside on wide zone. Now, that's a limited
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: sample size, but they've been great. I mean, when he
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: reads that, when his read tells him, hey, I think
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I think Barner got the hook on the defensive end.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Green light.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Go.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Let's get to the sideline.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Boom.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: He bursts and he has a, you know, and because
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Barner's saying, hurry, hurry, because I can't block this guy forever. Hurry,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: get your, you know, and and and so you need
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the guy that has the speed to get to that spot.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: And then one that's fresh in my mind about that
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: is he did what I'm just describing. Then that was
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: with the ball on the right hash. He went stretch right,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: got to the edge, and now all of a sudden
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the sideline is coming up on him as the 12th. tackler.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: And then he was able to, he had the athleticism
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: after getting around to change his, his, uh, momentum and, uh, and,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: and get up the field for about an 11 yard game.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I said that, that is beautiful professional football right there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: You know, like, like that, that's exactly like, like it
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: doesn't get better than that. Now you could say it
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: can get better if, if you go 80 yards.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: But that's not necessarily real ball. That, that just happens
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: by accident, but you get a nice 11 yard, uh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: run into the boundary on a perfectly blocked on the
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: edge and a running back who has the juice to
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: get there and then the athleticism to not run out
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: of bounds but somehow change his momentum and get it
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: going vertical and and get 10, 11 yards, it doesn't
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: get better than that. And hopefully Price feels healthy enough tonight,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: and they're blocking well enough that we see some of that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Now what happens is the defense is going to– they've
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: got to flow harder because they say, oh, even though–
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Most outside zones, wide zones, don't actually get outside. They
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: actually cut up. But the linebacker, those at the second level,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: they got to haul ass, and they got to go, oh,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: there's a threat to get outside. Now that opens up
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of play action stuff where the defensive line
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: is going laterally, and now that gives you more pass protection.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: If you're going to do naked bootlegs and get the
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: quarterback out of the backside, Now you've got those crossing
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: routes where the linebackers go, oh, damn, I was sprinting
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: to go stop the stretch, but now I've got to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: stop and go cover the over route on the tight end.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: There's a synergy to success in the wide zone that
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: carries into the dropback play action. It carries into the
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: naked boot play action. It carries into... Whether you actually
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: don't get to the outside, but then you just cut
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: it upfield. As I mentioned, going from D-gap to C-gap,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: all that stuff's available. Price can make the scheme work.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Nobody else can. And I can't think of a better
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: night to see it than Tuesday. tonight.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I'm with you. The roster moves are official. Siak just
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: released it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price activated from injury reserve.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: So he's back. Zach Charbonnet is back. That's official.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: The corresponding roster move, Robert Henry Jr., I almost forgot
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: he was here. He was waived off the 53-man roster
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to make room for Hart, for Price. What was your
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: favorite memory of Robert Henry Jr. in his three weeks
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of being in active view? The Seahawks also added depth
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: at two positions. They're bringing up Montari Foster Jr. Remember
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: him from Hard Knocks? He's been elevated from the practice
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: squad as a receiver. That's with Rashid Shaheed out. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: then Bobby Hart, depth tackle. Bobby Hart has been elevated
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: from the practice squad as well because Josh Jones starting
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: in place with Charles Cross, Torrey Horton. I know Torrey
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Horton's going to have a bigger role. You and I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: both know that tonight. He has to have a bigger role,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't he? He's got to have a bigger role.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Let me talk about a problem that I saw with
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: him last game. He had one target. On that occasion,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs were playing man-to-man, but they doubled Jackson, Smith,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and Jigba. JSN was the only guy that was doubled.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Everybody else was singled. So now Darnold comes back over
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the middle, and Horton's got an in-breaking route, intermediate in-breaking route,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: kind of a crossing route, intermediate crossing route. When Horton
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: did that, he was, the term is gaining ground. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: by the way, they put the best corner on Horton.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Number five, Antoine Deneur, Deneur, Mont, The number six overall pick.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Montsour Delane?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Montsour Delane. Thank you. You know what? I'm just making
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: this stuff up as I go along.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: All good. All good. Yeah.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: So Montsour Delane was covering Torrey Horton, man to man.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: And then two other guys were covering JSN. So now
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: you got Darnold comes back inside after recognizing JSN has
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: doubled and And there's an opportunity in man coverage. You've
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: got to win on that one, Torrey Horton. And he
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: was gaining ground. What that means is when he went
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: up the field kind of at an angle towards the
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: middle field and then he broke it, but instead of
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: breaking it flat and, let's say, parallel to line of
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: scrimmage or losing ground, which would be actually at a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: slight angle closer to the line of scrimmage, Instead of
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: having that flat angle or even losing ground, he gained
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: ground more like a post. Now, it wasn't as severe
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: as a post, but he was allowing the defender to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: undercut the play. And that's kind of a wide receiver no-no.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And the defender made a play. I think it was
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: third down. Got a pass breakup, and Seattle's punting. And
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: then you go, no, no, no. Horton, you've got to
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: be on point with your technique. And so let's see
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: if tonight he learned a lesson. We could get a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: couple receptions out of Torrey Horton.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: More at four with Softee and Fane?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I think so, yes. Yes, sir.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: All right, Hugh Millen back on at 4 o'clock with
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Softee and Fane. I'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll recap,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: but hopefully it's a Seahawk win, my friend. Great stuff
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: as always.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I love it. Hammer down.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, go Hawks.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: There you go, Hugh Millen, the great Hugh Millen. Speaking
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: of great, the great Greg Cosell joins us next.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: All right, we're back here. Jimmy's on first, getting ready
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: for Seahawks. Monday Night Football, Chicago Bears, 5-15. All right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you heard from Hugh Millen. If you're a regular listener
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to the show, you know every Friday we have Greg
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Cosell on. The great, great Cosell works with Hugh on
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the 30-13 along with Steve Palazzolo. Also, ESPN matchup show
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: from NFL Films. The best film guy in the business.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: We think. We're lucky enough to have him here in
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Seattle along with all the national stuff he does. We
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: got Ashley worked on it. We got 10 minutes.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Or so of Greg Cosell breaking down the Bears and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, and it starts with a conversation. I asked
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: him about what type of impact does he expect the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: new D-tackle, Jeffrey Simmons, to give Chicago tonight.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I hope people in Seattle still like me after
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I say this, but Jeffrey Simmons is the best D-tackle
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: in the NFL. I mean, he is just a dominant,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: dominant force. He's country strong. He's super quick. I mean,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: he can dominate games, truly dominate games. And as you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: with D tackles, it's not about stats. D tackles can
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: dominate games and have one tackle. He's really a good
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: football player and he's really light on his feet. So
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: he's a good inside pass rusher as well. So he's
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: just a really good player. Now keep in mind, the
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Bears have been a very high percentage blitz defense up
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: to this point in the season. Their blitz rate has,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I think, third or fourth highest in the league. And
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the reason Dennis Allen has done that is because they
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: did not really have a pass rush without being able
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: to pressure. But the flip side of that is they've
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: given up a lot of explosive plays in the pass game.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: So now it'll be interesting to see in this particular matchup,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: obviously first game with Jeffrey Simmons, whether he cuts down
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: on his blitz rate because he feels he can rush
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: the quarterback with his down four. And we don't know
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: the answer to that until we see them play. But
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: they blitzed a lot this season, you know, relative to
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: the league.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: They won't even know that until Monday, right? When they
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: figure out what they've got in Simmons. We're going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: stay on these two sides of the ball, and we'll
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: get back to the actual matchup in a second, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I'm almost buried the lead. Quinton Nelson comes to Seattle,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: left guard, and Mike McDonald told us on Thursday he
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: will be the left guard, and Gray Zabel will move
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to the right guard. That's how it's going to be.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I was actually surprised. I mean, I don't think none
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of us are surprised that Nelson's going to be the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: left guard. I think we were surprised they let us
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: know that early on that Zabel's in and Bradford goes
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to the bench, but that pushed that aside. Quinton Nelson
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to Seattle. What does he bring?
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just one of those guys. He's a really
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: good player. Plus he's, you know, you know this, you've
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: been around football a long time. Offensive linemen are different
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: and there's a certain culture with offensive linemen, you know,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: the way they see things and the cohesion, the way
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: they work together. And obviously he's not working with these
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: guys just yet, but But he brings a certain kind
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: of culture swagger to an offensive line. You know, he's
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: that kind of player. And he's still a very, very
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: good player. My question to you is I would assume
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Cross is not going this week.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: They'll have Josh Jones is going to be the left tackle.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: He told us that yesterday.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, he's going to play there.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Because, you know, it's funny.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: For a moment, I thought that it would be possible
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: that they couldn't move Zabel out to left tackle for,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: you know, a week or two because, you know, he
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: played that in college. You know, but I guess they're
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: going to keep him and move him to right guard.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: which is probably smart because that's ultimately what's going to
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: happen because Cross will come back. But yeah, Nelson is
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: just a really, really good player, and it's so interesting
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: that you're going to get Zabel and Nelson going up
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: against Jeffrey Simmons this week wherever they decide to line
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: up Jeffrey Simmons.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: With Nelson, we know he does everything well, right? And
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: one of the things that they've struggled with this season, obviously,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and I think part of it's this goes all hand
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: in hand, right? It all kind of fits together. Is
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that wide zone they want to run and all those
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: types of things. And whether it's, they don't have the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: running backs that have the juice or maybe the offensive
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: line hasn't been quite as cohesive as it has been. They've,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: they've been had a rotation at, you know, this both
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Stevens and now the since departed Christian Haynes have been
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: playing a lot of right guard with Bradford out. So
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: they really haven't had that. How much does what they
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: want to do running the ball change now that you've
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: got a guy in gray's able who has played on
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the right side of his has played right guard before
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in college. And Quentin Nelson coming in playing left guard.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: How much does that change what they want to do
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: running the ball?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it changes what they want to do.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I think it makes them better at it. Because I
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: think they want to run the ball. My question to
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: you is, when is Jadarian Price due back?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Well, his practice window opened up. And as we speak
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: right now, we won't know until probably late Sunday whether
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: or not he's going to play Monday. But he was
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: on the field yesterday. He was practicing. Same with Charbonnet. So,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And Charbonnet was a full participant. So I would expect
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Charbonnet at least comes back, but Price is the guy
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that they want to run that wide zone, right?
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: So there's a chance. Mike McDowell did not close the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: door on it, so we'll see.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, obviously this is a team that wants
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: to run the ball because they want to put Darnold
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: under center. They want to run the play-action pass game.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: And you can run play-action without a great run game,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: but the point is it just is a better feel
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: to play action when you have a good run game,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: even though it's been proven over and over that there's
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: not a strict correlation between between running well and play action.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: You still like to be able to run the ball
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: well and just have play action. It feels better. So
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: that's the way they want to play, Ian. So they'll
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: just be better at it. I mean, look, you have
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: to give Emmanuel Wilson a ton of credit. You know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Wilson, no one would view him as a feature
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: back in the league, even with what he's done in Seattle.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: I guess he's had two 100-yard games. He's been physical.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: He's been a grinder. He's been a sustainer. He's competitive. But,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: you know, you don't want him as your feature back
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: for 17 games.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: So now.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: you know, Price will come back. He was drafted to
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: be the feature back. Charbonnet was clearly, you know, is
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: clearly viewed as a really good second back. But with
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: what Wilson has done, he obviously deserves snaps. The guy
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: who's probably kind of left out in all this, I
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: would think, could be, you know, George Helani because Charbonnet
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: is going to play on third down.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It's Greg Cosell joining us.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: His weekly visit brought to you by the Emerald Queen Casino.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: All right, let's Let's get to the secondary. If Sam
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Darnold and Jackson Smith and Jigba and company want to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: get things going, we're not sure about Rashid Shaheed. He's
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: banged up a little bit right now, so we'll wait
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and see. But let's just talk about it. It sounds
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: like if you're going to do some damage against that
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Bears defense, if you're able to protect Sam Donald, you
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: can do it against that secondary.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can. they've given up a lot of explosive plays. Now,
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: don't forget, some of those plays come because of the
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: pressure and the blitzing. So, you know, when you blitz
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: with bodies, you have fewer bodies in coverage, so you
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: compromise your coverage. So keep that in mind. It's very
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: possible they could cut down, and we don't know what
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: Dennis Allen will do, and he's one of the best
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: in the league as a D coordinator, so we don't
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: know what he'll do. But if he decides to rush
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: with four, let's say, and play seven in coverage, then
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: the big plays certainly might not be there because the
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: numbers game works then in his favor. But when you
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: start bringing extra people, the numbers game does not work
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: in your favor, and they've given up a lot of
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: big plays this year. I think they've given up the
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: third or fourth most explosive pass plays of any defense
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: in the league. So we'll see if tactically the defense
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: changes with the addition of Simmons.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell with us. Let's flip to the other side
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: of the ball. Uh, Seahawks took care of business against
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Kansas city on Sunday night football, Monday night football, another
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: good offense, another great quarterback. Uh, and I'm sure you're
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: going to tell me that it's a different, different challenge
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: this week than they had against Kansas city.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: You know what? I mean, Kayla Williams is really improving dramatically. Um,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: the thing that I like about him, you know, is,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: and I've used this term this week, I actually did
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: a piece in the matchup show, uh, He has arm arrogance.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: He is willing to turn it loose. And the thing is,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: when you play against zone and he's going to get
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: high percentage zone with Seattle and a lot of too
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: high safety shell, as we discussed, you have to be
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: willing to make tight window throws. He is more than
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: willing to do that. Now, he'll miss a few on
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: occasion for any number of reasons. Always hard to know
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: when a quarterback misses a few, but he can make
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: big time throws and he sees almost every throw as
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: a viable throw. I've talked about that a lot over
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: the years. There's no statistic with all the analytics and
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: all the metrics we have now. There's still no real
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: statistic for balls that should be thrown that aren't thrown.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: And he doesn't have a problem with that. He's going
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: to turn it loose. And they work between the numbers really,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: really well. You'll see a lot of those kinds of throws.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: And obviously, they've got good players. Luther Burton was one
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: of my favorite receivers when he came out of college.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: He was a second-round pick for apparently other reasons. other
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: than football. I don't get into that, as you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: but that's what I heard from people, but he's a
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: really dynamic player. And he's someone you got to be
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: careful with because he, he can run routes at all
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: three levels and he's really good with the ball in
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  Speaker 5: his hands.
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  Speaker 3: And they use Colston Loveland a lot, right? The tight
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  Speaker 3: end as well. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He can split out. I mean, he's obviously they lost
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  Speaker 5: Cole commit for the year. So, you know, they played
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  Speaker 5: a lot at a 13 personnel. We'll see if that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure they have another tight end on
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: the roster, but, I don't know who that is off
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: the top of my head or whether they go away
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  Speaker 5: from that, but they still will play a lot of
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: 12 personnel with two tight ends.
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  Speaker 2: What's happened to Roma Dunze? He hasn't put up the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: numbers that we thought he would coming out of Washington
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  Speaker 2: out here.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny you say that because I kind of,
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: this past summer, I kind of did a deep dive
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: on Williams and their pass game. And I think Dunze's solid,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: but I felt after I watched a lot of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Bears pass game, I'm not sure he's a great separator
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  Speaker 5: at the top of his route step. I think he's
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: a big receiver with good hands. He can make contested catches.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: He can make tough catches. I just don't know. He
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: strikes me as more smooth and fluid than Sutton, and
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  Speaker 5: at times he struggles to separate.
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  Speaker 2: Their run game, Greg, at least statistically, looks really good.
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  Speaker 2: I always wonder, too. Yeah, and sometimes you wonder on paper,
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  Speaker 2: is it on paper that it looks good? Is it
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  Speaker 2: just the fact that, you know, like you have a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: quarterback that is a running quarterback or maybe a combination thereof,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and DeAndre Swift pretty good, too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they've got a very good O-line, particularly
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: the right side. Jackson, right guard, right tackle. are phenomenal
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: run blockers that's where they do most of their dirty
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: work in the run game into the right side of
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: the offensive line right is a terrific run blocker now
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: they're obviously playing against a very good d line we'll
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: see how it plays out as you know they've not
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: given up a 100 yard rusher in something like 37
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: games yeah some number like that um you know and
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: they're just really really i mean this this defense is
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: really really good they're so good up front and you
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: know It's really interesting how I've always believed, we talked
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: about this when Okada had to play and now he's
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: a starter, but we talked about it last year when
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: he wasn't a starter, that when you put in backups,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: and I'm mentioning this because of Knight, the linebacker, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: they really play at a high level, to me that's coaching.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: That tells you how guys are coached, how they take
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: the coaching, because they play the right way. Because I
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: think Knight has played very well the last two weeks.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know your thoughts, what they say about him,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: but I think he's played well.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Cosell, all interviews up on our podcast page if you
• 34:33
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• 34:35
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• 34:35
  Speaker 4: We'll take a break.
• 34:36
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• 34:38
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• 35:43
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• 35:45
  Speaker 2: A lot of quarterback news around the NFL. We'll get
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to that in a minute. Two things Kraken-wise. I'll start,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and then Ashley, you're going to fill in on the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: stuff that really matters that most fans really care about.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: That'd be the New Jerseys.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: The Kraken made a trade yesterday on a Sunday during
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the NFL. I get a call from Mike Benner. He says, hey,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: you want to come on and do an emergency podcast?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I go, what for?
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: What's going on? He goes, have you not seen it?
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: I go, no, dude.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: The only thing on my phone right now is me
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: getting my ass kicked in fantasy football. I'm not looking
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: at Twitter and all that stuff, and I didn't check
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: my emails, and then I got a text saying, Shane
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Wright traded to the Nashville Predators in exchange for a
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: winger that, honestly, I like the trade. There's a couple
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: things I want to get to as far as what
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they're doing. One is, this is an organization that, no
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: matter what they do, people want to just trash them.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: They're having their best start that they've ever had. They've
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: been doing a ton of great things. And yet, at
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the same time, we're in a situation where people want to,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, whatever they do, it's wrong. And in
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the case of Matthew Wood, you have two guys that
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: were taken in the draft, same year, that were both
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: fairly high picks, Shane higher than Matthew Wood, that it
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: hasn't worked out to the benefit of the team, to
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the expectations they had. Sometimes a change of scenery works.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And in this case, it probably did. Matthew Wood is
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: what Seattle needs. A big, high-scoring winger. At the other side,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Shane Wright is a center. He's been playing on the wing,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: out of place, hasn't had great success here. And so
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: they made a trade. And hopefully for Shane, it works
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: out well for him in Nashville. And for Seattle, hopefully
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Matthew Wood becomes that scoring winger to go along with
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Kapo Kako on Berkley Catton's line. And you've got three
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: young guys, all under the age of 25, that are
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: going to be cornerstones for this franchise for a while.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Rare one-for-one trade. Usually there's a draft pick or something
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: thrown in, Ash. The fact there wasn't says both teams...
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Came to an agreement that, boom, we're going to make
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the trade. One other thing on that. Do not be
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: that person that uses the following term. Well, the Kraken
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: really failed in their player development with Shane Wright. What
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: does that mean? You tell me what that means. And
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you guys know who I'm talking about out there in
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Kraken media land. They failed his player development. What are
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: What is that? Actually, if I say that, what are you...
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Can you define that?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: No.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: What does that mean?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work out with everybody that you draft. It's
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: just the way it is.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Blaming the organization because they failed in his player development
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: is just.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I don't get it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Do you give the organization all the credit in the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: world when he's a success, or do you give him
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: some of the blame and some of the credit?
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Usually what happens is it's a two-way street.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: You develop as a player because you want to.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: And then at the same time, the team develops you. Well,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the team drafted him. They fought like hell to get
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the exemption so he could play in the American Hockey
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: League and not have to go back so he could
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: develop at that level.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: But, you know, I just, I don't know. It just
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: drives me insane.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Rights development, simply never a priority for the Kraken, written
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: by a couple people in this town.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: That just is stupid. Berkeley Catton, he's developed, hasn't he?
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: He's a hell of a player right now.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: As far as I know, he's good.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: So apparently whatever player development they're talking about, they said, okay,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: we're going to develop Berkley and Ryan Winterton and Viliot
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Adovainen and other guys, but we're not going to develop Shane? Like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: give your head a shake, people. Let's just hope it
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: works out. He's a classy kid. Handled things pretty well. Never,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: as it comes out in the National League of Nations,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: really truly demanded a trade. Agent was full of it,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: but that's what agents are for. The bigger news, Ashley,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: for some... New Jersey's going to make their debut Wednesday
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: when Calgary's in town at Climate Pledge Arena.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I just saw it in person. We've got one in
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Purple Sheet's office. I like it a lot.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you the little touch that I like
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: that makes it a little bit old school.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It's got the.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Strings up at the top. The laces.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: The laces. Yep. They're not big. It's just a little
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: bit of laces there. And then the space needle anchor
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: just there on the front. It looks really cool.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I think they did a great job. All the teams
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: in the league debuted them today and what they look like.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: They're coming out various times for teams to do and see. But, yeah,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I think what Seattle did is fantastic. They did a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: great job with it. It worked hard. I know the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: people behind the scenes worked really, really hard on it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Good for them. Great job. They'll be debuted on Wednesday.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: My only hope and concern is they can see the numbers.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Current third jerseys, you can't see the numbers.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I don't care if they glow in the dark. I know.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: They do look cool, but, yeah, it needs to be
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: easier to see. They look great when you see them. Yeah,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: they look great up close.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Just can't see the numbers.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: These ones, apparently, you can, and they're sensational. Good job.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: They're for sale right now. Go to the Kraken Team
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Store or online at salekraken.com. We'll take a break. Mike Sando,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: another quarterback change in the NFL. This is even due
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: to injury. We'll tell you about that next.