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DIDDY'S NEW RELEASE DATE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace shocker.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're sitting down. You may need to lay
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  Speaker 2: down for this one. Sean Diddy Come's prison release date
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  Speaker 2: has been jumped up several weeks, which means he's getting
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  Speaker 2: out even earlier. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us. That's right,
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  Speaker 2: Sean diddy comes prison release has been moved up. The
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  Speaker 2: music star was found guilty on two counts transportation to
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  Speaker 2: engage in gen prostitution, is now set to be freed earlier.
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  Speaker 3: Combs projected prison release date has been changed four times.
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  Speaker 3: His initial projective release date was June four, twenty twenty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Then it was changed to April twenty fifth, twenty twenty eight,
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  Speaker 3: then moved up ten days to April fifteenth, twenty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Now his projected release date is February twenty third, twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight.
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  Speaker 2: That's no time, are you kidding? Wait, let's take a
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  Speaker 2: refresher course on the facts proving Shawn Comb's guilty.
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  Speaker 4: After a split verdict where Shawn Combs is acquitted of RICO,
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  Speaker 4: two other accounts come into play. Shawn Comb's convicted on
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  Speaker 4: two felony counts. There was a massive argument via paper
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  Speaker 4: to keep Shawn Combs behind bars, the defense fighting tooth
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  Speaker 4: and nail to let him out on appeal bond, which
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  Speaker 4: means you get out while your conviction is being appealed.
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  Speaker 4: Joining me right now Tisa Tales. You can find her
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  Speaker 4: on YouTube at Tisa Tales. Tisa start at the beginning,
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  Speaker 4: Start with the verdict, the split.
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  Speaker 5: What happened when the jury walked in, everybody was on
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  Speaker 5: pins and needles.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody in the courtroom expected him to be guilty on
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  Speaker 5: at least the sex trafficking. There was a somber tone
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  Speaker 5: they walked in and when they said please read, and
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  Speaker 5: they said, what do you.
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  Speaker 6: Find ye on count one?
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  Speaker 5: Not guilty? It was a bomb that went off in
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  Speaker 5: the courtroom.
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  Speaker 6: The public audibly gassed.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody was expecting that. There were tears of joy from
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  Speaker 5: Ditty's side. Count two, what say ye not guilty?
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  Speaker 6: Again?
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  Speaker 5: Another bombshell went off. People were in utter disbelief. Any
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  Speaker 5: even Didty's most ardent supporters did not expect him to
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  Speaker 5: get off on the count of sex trafficking with Cassie.
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  Speaker 5: Count three, when they said guilty for transportation of a prostitute.
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  Speaker 5: When they said guilty for the manna, that is when
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  Speaker 5: Didy's team actually cheered, Yeah, that's all right, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 5: come on, almost like you were watching a pro football game.
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  Speaker 5: When the other ones came in after that, there were
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  Speaker 5: jaws on the ground.
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  Speaker 6: It was unbelievable. People were looking at the jury, searching and.
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  Speaker 5: To how they can get a verdict in this day
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  Speaker 5: and age. They heard Cassie's mother, the twenty thousand, they
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  Speaker 5: heard Capricorn Clark, they heard.
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  Speaker 6: About the savage beatings, and.
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  Speaker 5: It was unbelievable that the only thing they said was prostitution.
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  Speaker 5: And that is because Daniel Phillips in his testimony actually said,
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  Speaker 5: at least I'm guessing that it was because that he
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  Speaker 5: got paid to have sex for money. It was a travesty.
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  Speaker 5: It was an all out circus. Everybody, including myself, are
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  Speaker 5: running to safety.
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  Speaker 4: I got a question for your Teas of Tales, and
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  Speaker 4: everyone's going to want to know this. You had to
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  Speaker 4: leave the courthouse.
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  Speaker 5: Why I had to leave the courthouse because Diddy's supporters
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  Speaker 5: were out of control.
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  Speaker 6: The first time I ran and dipped my live.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, I had two armed security guys. Everyone told
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  Speaker 5: me the people in the courthouse is like, make sure
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  Speaker 5: you have security.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of weird stuff going on.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't just me, but I'll tell you what I experienced.
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  Speaker 5: Didy supporter is surrounding me, threatening me, saying that they
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  Speaker 5: were going to hurt me.
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  Speaker 6: It was a serious situation.
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  Speaker 5: It got so bad and there was so much chalos
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  Speaker 5: of chaos and violence that they actually had to lock
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  Speaker 5: the courtroom down and force the Diddy supporters across the street.
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  Speaker 6: It was something.
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  Speaker 5: Myself, the news media, mainstream media, new media have never
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  Speaker 5: seen in their lives the level.
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  Speaker 6: And again, the jurors, I hope to god they know.
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  Speaker 5: How to sleep at night, because again I'm sure they
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  Speaker 5: did their duty. But when all that chast was happening,
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  Speaker 5: as I was being threatened and ushered out by armed
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  Speaker 5: security people, I thought, this is what the jury did.
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  Speaker 5: They sent a signal that it is okay to use violence,
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  Speaker 5: It's okay to drug people up, it's okay to live
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  Speaker 5: a life of debauchery, it's okay to do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 5: Because guess what, if you work hard enough and you
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  Speaker 5: have enough money and enough delusional fans, and you have
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  Speaker 5: engrained yourself in culture enough that you can do whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want and twelve of your peers will look the
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  Speaker 5: other way.
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  Speaker 6: Again, this jury was shocking.
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  Speaker 1: Past of tales.
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  Speaker 4: When you say that Shawnkhm's supporters threatened you, what were
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  Speaker 4: they saying?
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  Speaker 6: They were saying, you B you F and B. We're
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  Speaker 6: going to kill you.
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  Speaker 1: You F and B.
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  Speaker 6: You worked Apparently I work for the fence. You're a plant.
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  Speaker 6: You make this all up because of you. Again, they're
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  Speaker 6: not too smart because of you. That's how this case
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  Speaker 6: got started. We're gonna treat you worse than we treated Cassie.
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  Speaker 5: Cassie, what we do to you, it's gonna be nothing
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  Speaker 5: that they had on Cassie.
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  Speaker 6: They were screaming, they were yelling. Some people were saying.
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  Speaker 5: Apologize the didty apologize the ditty?
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  Speaker 6: Of course, Thank goodness. We had Lenny and we had Jimmy,
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  Speaker 6: two of the best arm guards out there.
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  Speaker 5: So the one thing is they and also they started foaming.
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  Speaker 6: Like wild dogs.
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  Speaker 5: Because they realized that I was not an unprotected woman,
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  Speaker 5: and they realized they could not just do what they
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  Speaker 5: felt like, and they started foaming like wild dogs, screaming,
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  Speaker 5: their voices cracking in anger that they ricially wanted to
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  Speaker 5: rip me apart.
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  Speaker 6: This is why their hero had been exonerated.
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  Speaker 5: Even in the best of times, these people that support him,
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  Speaker 5: there's something wrong with it. And I gotta tell you, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't just me.
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  Speaker 6: It was not just me.
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  Speaker 5: It was anybody that didn't have a pro Diddy stamp
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  Speaker 5: from the beginning.
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  Speaker 6: That's who suffered.
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  Speaker 4: Joining me an all star panel that I want to
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  Speaker 4: thank Tisa Tales for what she's doing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Rob Sheeter is joining me. Rob, I really
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  Speaker 1: don't know where to start.
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  Speaker 7: This is a blow.
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  Speaker 4: This is a huge blow to crime victims all over
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  Speaker 4: the country. Huge blow. The big news is right now,
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  Speaker 4: Sean Combs is going to jail. Okay, he's going to jail.
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  Speaker 4: I was actually worried that somehow.
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  Speaker 1: The judge would contriveting the law. And the law is
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  Speaker 1: under the Bill Reform Act.
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  Speaker 4: That for these two charges on which he was convicted,
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  Speaker 4: he has to go to jail.
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  Speaker 1: There is no appeal bond period.
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  Speaker 4: But I was so concerned that the judge would somehow
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  Speaker 4: find a way to let him walk. And all this time, Shooter,
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  Speaker 4: we've been hearing I've got all these letters. Here, here's
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  Speaker 4: one from Deontay Nash in fear, in fear talking about Comes,
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  Speaker 4: this long, well documented history of violent retaliatory behavior.
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  Speaker 1: They're afraid.
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  Speaker 4: Rob'shooter, guys, Shooter knows Comes better than.
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  Speaker 1: Any of us.
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  Speaker 4: His longtime published no More but now you can find
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  Speaker 4: him at his substack robshooter dot substack dot com and
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  Speaker 4: noney but Nice podcast Shooter. I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 4: it's like a kick in the stomach when that split
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  Speaker 4: verdict came down.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think everybody was done before. Before I continue, then, Nancy,
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  Speaker 8: I just want to send my best to Tisha. What
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  Speaker 8: happened to her outside that courthouse is horrific, is wrong,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm afraid these people now have been emboldened. When
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  Speaker 8: we heard the judgment, I think we were all shell shocked,
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  Speaker 8: we were all heartbroken, We all felt like we'd been
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  Speaker 8: kicked in the stomach. However, as the day has gone on,
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  Speaker 8: we do have to remember, Nancy, that he has been
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  Speaker 8: found guilty of two very serious charges. If any other
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  Speaker 8: celebrity had been charged with those two charges, those alone
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  Speaker 8: and being found guilty, we would be done with them.
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  Speaker 8: So the celebration from Team Diddy, the disappointment from people
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  Speaker 8: who've been watching this is close as we have. I
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  Speaker 8: think we can take a step back both sides and
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  Speaker 8: realize that this is not a good day for d Day.
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  Speaker 8: He is now a federal criminal, is in jail tonight,
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  Speaker 8: He's going to remain there, and so at least take
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  Speaker 8: some solace in that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Rob Shooter, I've been getting flooded by crime victims,
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  Speaker 4: rape victims from.
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  Speaker 9: All walks of life that are upset.
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  Speaker 4: They don't really sound mad, yet they're devastated, They're sad,
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  Speaker 4: they can't believe this has happened.
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  Speaker 9: I've been already subjected to a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Attacks, verbal attacks, and I think, like what Tisa tells,
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  Speaker 4: has been subjected to already. But I give the credit
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  Speaker 4: to the prosecutors for going in there, and I truly
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  Speaker 4: believe this was a Day and Goliath, and they went
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  Speaker 4: in against one of the highest profile personalities in our country,
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  Speaker 4: Sean Comes, who many people think that they know and
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  Speaker 4: they love him, and for some reason, that blinded them,
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  Speaker 4: that drowned out everything that three sex attack victims said, and.
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  Speaker 1: One had the video. What has the video?
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  Speaker 10: I just I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get it.
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  Speaker 4: Rob Shooter, give me some insight and to how Sean
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  Speaker 4: Comes got a split vert. But yes, you're right, he
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  Speaker 4: is going to jail on two felonies, two felonies.
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  Speaker 1: That's a victory that Seawn Comes is going to jail.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a victory.
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  Speaker 8: We have to hard on for that, Nancid, because in
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  Speaker 8: this moment, in this hour, there's not a lot of hope.
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  Speaker 8: Everything seems so bad. We have let down not just
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  Speaker 8: the people in this case, but vixings around the world
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  Speaker 8: did now will be empowered. This is not the end
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  Speaker 8: of the story, Nancy. When he gets out of jail,
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  Speaker 8: if he gets out of jail, his behavior will not
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  Speaker 8: change because he thinks he has gotten away with it. Again,
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  Speaker 8: if you enable someone, Nancy, they do not change. So
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  Speaker 8: mark my words, Nancy, this is not the end of
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  Speaker 8: the Diddy story. It's the end of a very very
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  Speaker 8: sad chapter. And I think we've let a lot of
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  Speaker 8: people down. And as far as being concerned about safety,
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  Speaker 8: I just broke reporting that Cassie has now increased her security.
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  Speaker 8: Cassie in New York, her home now has security increased.
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  Speaker 8: And I think a lot of other people, courageous people
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  Speaker 8: who came forward assistance, people that worked with Diddy, came
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  Speaker 8: forward and testified. They're very vulnerable and they are very,
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  Speaker 8: very scared right now.
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  Speaker 4: Linn Shaw joining me, founder and director Linn's Warriors, dedicated
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  Speaker 4: to ending sex trafficking and sex.
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  Speaker 1: Abuse on girls and women.
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  Speaker 4: When I learned about the split verdict, I was speechless.
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  Speaker 9: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's happened.
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  Speaker 4: So what do you want the prosecutors to do? Go
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  Speaker 4: home and hide under the bed? Should they have just
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  Speaker 4: never even brought the case. They did it because they
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  Speaker 4: believed it and I still do believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Lynn.
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  Speaker 4: I believe Cassie vent Tira was coerced and beaten into
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  Speaker 4: having sex with male sex workers.
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  Speaker 1: That sex trafficking. I believe her.
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  Speaker 11: I believe Cassie. I believe Jane. I believe sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 11: This is a sober reflection on everything I've been talking
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  Speaker 11: about for about eight weeks now with this trial that
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  Speaker 11: the public and I'm going to say the jurors, okay,
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  Speaker 11: do not understand predation power, what sex trafficking is. And
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  Speaker 11: a reminder again, this case was not just about one man.
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  Speaker 11: This case was about all of the victims across the
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  Speaker 11: country the world whose voices have been silenced because they
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  Speaker 11: don't come forward because the justice system usually picks power,
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  Speaker 11: wealth status over believing their truths. But I want to
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  Speaker 11: point out there is hope. I've spent all day coaching people,
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  Speaker 11: talking people, fielding text messages, and I want to say,
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  Speaker 11: you know what, these victims that reach out to me, Nancy,
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  Speaker 11: they're not even angry, you know what they keep saying.
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  Speaker 11: Please Lynn, please remind everybody we're victims. Please remind everybody
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  Speaker 11: we have a voice. Please remind everybody we are here.
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  Speaker 11: And that goes back to I have to do, We
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  Speaker 11: have to do in society a better job of educating
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  Speaker 11: about sex, trafficking, about trauma, bonding, trauma, what predation really
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  Speaker 11: looks like. This is the most frightening thing to empower
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  Speaker 11: this Sean Colms and I just want to make the
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  Speaker 11: commitment that we will work very hard to continue reforming,
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  Speaker 11: raising awareness and working with the justice system.
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  Speaker 4: Right back out to Tisa Tales, who has made it
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  Speaker 4: to a safe location, Tasa Tales. I want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about what happened when the split verdict was announced in
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  Speaker 4: the courtroom, and then I want to move to the
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  Speaker 4: appeal bond hearing. Let's start with the split verdict. Take
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  Speaker 4: it from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 5: When you heard count one, not guilty, a bomb went
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  Speaker 5: off in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 6: Not guilty. No one could believe it, song did.
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  Speaker 5: He's calm side even looked around as if they hadn't
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  Speaker 5: heard correctly. No one thought that the jury would actually
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  Speaker 5: go this far. Everybody thought that the delay meant that
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  Speaker 5: he was actually guilty. When the second count was read again,
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  Speaker 5: jaws dropped open. Did He leaned back in relief, raised
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  Speaker 5: his hands to the fence. Team was like, yes, I
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  Speaker 5: get it. They literally pulled a magic act. Okay, they
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  Speaker 5: literally pulled a magic act. His team, his side started celebrating,
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  Speaker 5: started saying yeah. When we heard the third count, guilty
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  Speaker 5: for the prostitution, okay. Everyone on his side it was like,
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  Speaker 5: that's okay, that's okay. They were clapping, almost like they
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  Speaker 5: were watching a football game. When they first came out
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  Speaker 5: with the verdict. The prosecution was doing what they were doing.
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  Speaker 5: They were looking straight. It is a job, I would assume,
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  Speaker 5: to look like they always have it under control.
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  Speaker 6: By the time they got to.
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  Speaker 5: The third count, Marine called me, looked over at the
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  Speaker 5: jury and disbelief.
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  Speaker 6: Literally again, She's always.
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  Speaker 5: Very composed, but even for her to finally look over
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  Speaker 5: at the jury on some are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 6: And she just kept looking at the jury as they
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  Speaker 6: read the counts. Again.
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  Speaker 5: I know the jury did their best, but I cannot
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  Speaker 5: feel that justice was served. How can you forget the
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  Speaker 5: vicious beatings? How can you forget the twenty k the
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  Speaker 5: mom had the wire and order four two freak off
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  Speaker 5: tapes not to be released.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, that's what she thought when she wired it.
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  Speaker 5: How can you forget what happened to Bonna being hung
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  Speaker 5: over balcony.
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  Speaker 6: She might have got the date wrong by a few
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  Speaker 6: days days, but the point is it happened.
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  Speaker 5: How you can forget Deontay Nash and the best friend
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  Speaker 5: Carrie who got a hangar to the head and saw
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  Speaker 5: Cassie get impiled, driven into the corner of a bed
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  Speaker 5: on purpose. How can you forget all that and come
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  Speaker 5: back and say, you know what, we don't see anything
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  Speaker 5: criminal here.
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  Speaker 6: Again.
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  Speaker 5: We can argue about the prosecution, prostitution, got ditty on
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  Speaker 5: the head, We can argue about the prosecution what they
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  Speaker 5: could have did better, But the fact that the jury
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  Speaker 5: chose to overlook all that. It brought me back to
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  Speaker 5: what Rob Shooter said weeks ago. When I first started
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  Speaker 5: joining you, Nacy, that people get starstrucked and they want
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  Speaker 5: some of that magic, And it makes me wonder were
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  Speaker 5: they starstruck? Were they feeling sorry and trying to protect
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  Speaker 5: a legacy for someone that hit their depravity and their
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  Speaker 5: evil ways behind it.
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  Speaker 1: It makes you wonder. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Shawn Colmbs gets sentenced to a measly fifty months behind
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  Speaker 2: bars after he was acquitted on the most serious charge
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  Speaker 2: of sex trafficking and racketeering. Prosecutors still sought an eleven
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  Speaker 2: year sentence. His defense team asked for fourteen months behind bars. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the judge week gave a very light sentence of just
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  Speaker 2: fifty five zero months. That's it. After these facts.
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  Speaker 4: Back to Tisa tells Joining Us she had to be
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  Speaker 4: escorted by armed guards out of the courthouse and leave
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  Speaker 4: the scene after she was mobbed by Diddy fans. Explain
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  Speaker 4: to me what was happening outside the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: I understand, and that was this plit verdict was announced.
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  Speaker 4: The Diddy followers, the Diddy worshippers, went cray outside the courthouse,
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  Speaker 4: actually dousing each other with baby oil and chanting.
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  Speaker 6: They formed the circle. It looked like a mush pit
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  Speaker 6: of depravity.
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  Speaker 5: They were spraying baby oil on each other, jumping around
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  Speaker 5: feeling fantastic. One woman and a pair of Calvin Klein
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  Speaker 5: breasts and a bra started jumping up and down, wiggling
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  Speaker 5: why they sat there spraying baby owner and the crowd
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  Speaker 5: was channing yay, yay, yay go and hyping them up.
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  Speaker 5: It was a monstrous bowl of the party depravity. When
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  Speaker 5: I say, I was sickened. When I say, I sh
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  Speaker 5: shook my head. And when I said, these are the peers,
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  Speaker 5: these are the jury of the peers. And it makes
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  Speaker 5: me wonder as a jury goes home and they look
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  Speaker 5: at the television sets and they see what their decision
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  Speaker 5: costs and what was on the line, it makes me
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  Speaker 5: one how can they sleep at night?
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  Speaker 6: It was absolute pandemonia.
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  Speaker 5: In between the jumping up and down with the baby oil,
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  Speaker 5: woman willingly baby oil being squirted on them, and everybody
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  Speaker 5: laughing and having a time like Christmas had just come
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  Speaker 5: with Santa and the troll perverted elves.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: What happened after that was even more amazing because.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: While that was going on, there were little fires everywhere
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: of these bands of I don't know if they're in cels.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: If they're idiots, what was going on looking for anybody
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: they had ever saw make anti Didty contest and by
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: anti Diddy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: According to Thelm it is pro justice.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: They were going out their ways to make sure.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: That everybody paid.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: And again I said, this is what that jury cost us,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: and let us know.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: It sent a message.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: It's okay to be depraved, it's okay to beat women,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: it's okay to do drugs, it's okay to do whatever
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: you want. And that jury, that jury, when they gave
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: their verdict signal to that. Again, I'm still coming to
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: terms with how the jury got to this. Thank god,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: this man was denied bail.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Thank god, straight out to send me someone joining us
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Crime Stories investigative reporter on the case from the very
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: beginning break down the counts for me, said Nancy.
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: Count one is that racketeering, rico conspiracy. Combs was found
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: not guilty on count one. Count two, three, four, and
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: five are those sex trafficking and transportation to engage in
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: prostitution charges. So there was one count each for Cassie
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: and Jane on both of those charges. So the jury
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: found that Combs was liable for both transportation to engage
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: in prostitution charges and not guilty on sex trafficking for
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: either Jane or Cassie.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Straight out to Philip Dubay joining us veteran trial lawyer,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: joining us out of the LA jurisdiction. So Debay, this
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: is the breakdown. Count one racketeering not guilty. Count two
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion as it relates
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to Cassie Ventira.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: You know the woman that was beaten in.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: That video and dragged back to a freak off her
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: the one that had to get plastic surgery on her
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: face after.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Did he beat her up? That one, that's a not guilty.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Count three transportation to engage in prostitution as it relates
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: to Cassie. Guilty that carries a maximum of ten years.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And that comes, I believe from the sex worker who
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: came in Philip and described Sean Combs wearing a burka
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: from the chin up and make it from the.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Chin down and had him have.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Sex with Cassie on video and directed them that was
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: across state lines. So guilty on that count four Sex
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: trafficking by force, fraud or coercion as it relates to Jane,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: victim two not guilty. Count five transportation to engage in
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: prostitution as it relates to j guilty.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So we got two.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Guilties, three not guilties, split verdict. So there was great
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: jubilation at first.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: When did he followers heard split?
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: They heard the words not guilty on count one and
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: went crazy, What do you think is going to happen now, Philip?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: He will be getting prison time, There's no question. Right,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: another thing debate. Let's get real.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: It's really rare in federal and state court that once
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: you're convicted and a jury convicts.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: You on a violent of fence that you.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Get an appeal bond, which means, okay, Jodge, I know
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: he just got convicted, but could you please let him
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: walk free now until we take this all the way
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: up to the appellate court and get a decision that
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: rarely works.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: Agree?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Disagree?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: I agree one hundred percent.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: No higher court is going to find that this judge
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: abused his discretion by not letting him out or by
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: not setting a bond.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: You know. Robert Crispin joining me, private investigator at Crispin
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Special Investigations. Former homicide and former vice detective. Crispin here's
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the deal. If the judge had granted Shawn Combs a
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: bond and appeal bond.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Now remember once he.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Was arrested, Crispin, he was kept behind bars. He did
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: not have a bond right for a reason. He's got money,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: and he squats right over by Teterborough, the private airport
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: near New York.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: You know, if the.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Judge had given Shawn Combs an appeal bond, he goes
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: straight to Telborough and take off, probably under an assumed name.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: When you fly a private plane, you can give a
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: fake ID. Just it's not the same as going through
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: TSA at Hartsville International or LaGuardia or JFK No, where
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: they will frisk you and look.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: At all your bags. It's not like that. At a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: private plane.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: You kind of just walk on onto your private plane
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: that he has, have a glass of champagne and go
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: bye bye us, Hello Paris.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: That's what happens, Crispin.
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: Actually, earlier, just before we came on, Nancy, I was
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: trying to find out where his G five to fifty was,
• 24:18
  Speaker 13: because we know that it was out in La a
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: couple of days ago. I was trying to see if
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: they had already got those guys up and running, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: that plane was coming eastbound, thinking he was going to
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: probably get out and dip out back out to LA
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: or back down here to Miami to where his neighbors
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: aren't certainly thrilled about him coming back. But doesn't look
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: like anytime soon he's going to be gracing his presence
• 24:41
  Speaker 13: with these guys. So I was trying to find out
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: where that jet was that I haven't found out yet.
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: But the verdict is just it's heartbreaking, and it's a
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: black eyed to the victims. It's terrible, horrible for any
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: of these victims that want to come forward or any
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: witness that wants to put their ass on the line,
• 25:00
  Speaker 13: raise your right hand and testify against somebody. When a
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: jury's going to find that guy not guilty. That's really
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: bad for these witnesses and victims. They know what's coming.
• 25:10
  Speaker 14: Now.
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: Look what's happened to our reporter As she was leaving
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: the courthouse, they were attacking her. This guy was found
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: guilty of federal five.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: And I'd like to point out rob'shooter. What they were
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: saying to Tisa Tills.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Rob.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: They were saying, We're gonna do worse to you. Than
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: we did to Cassie Shere.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's heart for Tim.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Diddy has to be condoning this. He has been orchestrating
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the crowd. He's been orchestrating everything.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Nancy, I think looking for Diddy to do the
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: right thing at this moment is unrealistic. This is who
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: he is. The whole world has seen who he is,
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: and unfortunately, there's a large amount of people out there
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: who are just perfectly fine with this. Nobody can pretend
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: anymore that we don't know who did he is. We
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: know we've seen him on tape. That tape will exist
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: for We've heard the testimonies, we've heard the accounts, we've
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: heard the details, we've seen them, and yet some people
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: still support him. There's nothing we can do about that, Nancy.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: And to think that Diddy is going to stop it,
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: that ain't going to happen. He's going to encourage it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: He wants people out there, he wants the violence, he
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: wants people screaming. This to him is the party that
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: he always wanted to throw shape.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You know, Rob Shooter, everything you're saying can be transposed
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: to him before he was arrested. You know, in every case,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I've told you this before off air. I've seen a
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: million homicide scenes. I've been to the Morgue, I've seen
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it all. But there's always a moment in a trial
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that just twists the knife is very disturbing. And in
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: this trial, there were two moments like that from me.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: And one was in the Hotel Intercontinental video beat down
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: where she had already been beaten and she was backing
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: up and she tried to hold up She's right handed
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: was holding holding her mouth I think, with one hand,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: the right hand and holding up her left hand against
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Sean Comb's like she could fight him off, okay. And
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the other moment was when she was getting beaten and
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: she was down on the floor and Combs had a.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Glass, a liquor glass.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Held up ready to throw down at her face, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: she said, can't you see what's happening?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And nobody did anything. It's just like in the courtroom.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: The jury didn't do anything.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: They didn't they didn't answer. It's heartbreaking. People I know
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: who have worked with him, who knew him, many of
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: us are on a text exchange and they're heartbroken and
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: a lot of people are really worried to I don't
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: want to keep hopping on about this, Nancy, But this
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: is a very dangerous man. This is a man who
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: allegedly try to fire bomb the car of somebody that
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: was dating his girlfriend, his ex girlfriend. This is a dangerous,
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: dangerous man. And what that jury has just done has
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: said it doesn't matter. It's okay. You keep being puffy,
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: you keep being you, and we will support you. But
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: let me just say, Nancy, we can't just blame the
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: jury here. We've got to blame the person that did it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: And that's did he did. He is responsible for all this.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: Everything else is a red herring. He's the problem and
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: he will continue now to be a problem.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Doctor Cheryl Eric, who is a clinical and forensic psychologist,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: explain the effect this is going to have on not
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: only these victims that we heard on the stand, but
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: other victims everywhere.
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: Nancy, Once there is the threat of violence, that power
• 29:00
  Speaker 14: control tactic shapes everything that happens after that. We have
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: a jury who heard evidence about a tremendous amount of violence, threats,
• 29:11
  Speaker 14: threats of blackmail, videotaped assaults that were maintaining the power
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: and control, and yet they didn't feel that they had
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: enough evidence to be able to find that what was
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: happening there was not consensual. Trafficking has to do with force, fraud, coercion.
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: Consent is anything, but when somebody really scary makes you
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: an offer that you cannot refuse, that is not consent.
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: And what I think people are failing to understand about
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: the way that the even the threat of violence shapes
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: behavior is that when someone does not believe that they
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: can survive a threat by actually fighting back, they use fawning,
• 29:54
  Speaker 14: They use appeasing, they use the freeze response. They are
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: trying to placate the person who is scaring them. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: this man certainly has no shortage of people who were
• 30:04
  Speaker 14: really really frightened of him and still are.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: And I think that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: These really normal autonomic nervous system survival responses, fawning, appeasing,
• 30:14
  Speaker 15: the freeze response, These are things that need to be
• 30:17
  Speaker 15: understood better by juries, understood better by the public, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 15: even by survivors themselves.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: You know, Rob Shooter.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Would you look one more time at these celebrations going
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: on outside the courthouse after the split verdict was announced.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Take a look, thoughts, Nancy.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: I can tell you, as somebody who knows puff those
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: people standing outside that court have never met him. They've
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: never been to his apartment, they've never been on his
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: private plane. They've never had a text or an email
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: or folk call with him I have. He doesn't care
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: about any of those people, all those people who have
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: took their time, their energy to go and support this guy.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: Let me talk to them directly. He does not care
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: about you. If he can treat his girlfriend Cassie the
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: way that we've seen him treat it on video, this
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: is not testimony, this is video. If he can treat
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: someone who he's supposed to love like that, how do
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: you think he can treat you. He doesn't care about you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: You're wasting your energy on him, and honestly, my friends, stop,
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: he doesn't care. He's laughing at these people outside that courts,
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: He's egging them on, but he doesn't care.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: You know, Rob Sheeter, you speak with so much conviction
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: and so much feeling, and that tells me that you
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: know something.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Something you haven't told me. Why do you believe this?
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: What did you observe to make you say what you
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: just said.
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: I've observed a really selfish person, Nancy. I've observed a
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: person who doesn't have any shame, who has no sense
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: of pride, who has no sense of decency. He's a
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: really bad man, and.
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: Through his career, through the media, through his products, he
• 32:24
  Speaker 16: has managed to come us all, to kid us all
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: into believing he is somebody else.
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: Now, I hoped that day was coming to an end.
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: In fact, I could even tell you the day that
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: I thought it was ending. It was today. I'm absolutely
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: punched to my gut, to my stomach to know that
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: Puffy once again rises. Maybe not like a phoenix, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: justice does not feel as if it has been served.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Do you know that people aren't flooding the courthouse, the
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: judges chambers with letters.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Please don't let him out.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: We're from Cassie Ventura's lawyer to Deonte Nash, so many
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: others in fear, just like what you're saying. And we
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: heard earlier how this affects people. They saw what happened
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: to kid Cuddy, they saw what happened to Cassie, and
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: now he's going to walk crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: In a letter to the judge ahead of sentencing, come
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: said he got sober for the first time in twenty
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: five years.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Wait is that our fault? Are you actually trying to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: say you were drunk or high when you committed all
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: these acts. Voluntary use of drugs or alcohol is never
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a defense under the law. Let's take a quick crash
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: course on what facts convicted Combs and now he's set
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: to be released.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: The Federal Bureau of Prison release dates based on good conduct,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: time time served before sentencing, and credits from participating in
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: rehabilitative programs such as drug abuse treatment. Now his projected
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: release date is February twenty third, twenty twenty eight, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: in the meantime, his legal team continues to appeal his
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: conviction and sentence.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: After the split verdict, when everyone or I spray each
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: other with baby oil outside the courthouse and baying and
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: yelling and celebrating, Comes goes back into the courtroom Sydney
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: for the hearing. Right the hearing on is there going
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: to be an appeal bond? Is Comes going to walk
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: out of the courthouse a freeman today? During that hearing,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Comes briefly tries to raise his hand to speak after
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: the judge denies his request for release again. The judge
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: seemed to ignore the move and instead asked the US
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Assistant Attorney Marine Comy to respond and she says, quote,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: he is extremely violent with an extraordinary temper, who has
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: shown no remorse.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And no regret.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: And it makes me think, Sidney, about that fake apology,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to que that up and play it for
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: you in just a moment, said where he does all
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: this apologizing after beating Cassie, but according to what we
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: learned in court and sworn testimony, he continued the violence
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: after the apology video. That's what she said, no remorse
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: and no regret at all.
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that is definitely what the judge and prosecutors are thinking.
• 35:47
  Speaker 12: Comy referenced the violent incident with Jane mister Colmes knew
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: he was already under investigation. The judge referenced the multiple
• 35:57
  Speaker 12: instances of Colme's trying to reach out to potential witnesses,
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: trying to sway their opinions of what they might tell
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: investigators after this investigation began, when Colmes was well aware
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: it was underway. Judge to her money and also referenced
• 36:13
  Speaker 12: Mark Agmphillo's own closing arguments. You full throat fee told
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: the jury that there was violence, domestic violence in all
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: of Come's relationships. Y'all own that, and it may have
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: helped on some of these charges. It may have helped
• 36:29
  Speaker 12: with the guilty not guilty verdict, but it is definitely
• 36:33
  Speaker 12: coming back to bite him now.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Straight out to len Shaw, this also happened in the proceedings.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: This is after Tom's tried to raise his hand to
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: address the judge directly during the arguments. And this is
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: after the split verdict when everybody was celebrating outside. Now
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: comes the appeal bond where the judge is going to
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: decide will comes walk free tonight?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: The judge looks over at the defense and he says,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: as Sidney just reported, quote you full throatedly.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard anybody use that phrase, but he did.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: You full throatedly in your closing argument told the jury
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: there was violence, and domestic violence is violence.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You said this was the case that did have violence.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: This is the judge talking to Combs as to the
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: basic question of violence. You conceded that in your closing argument.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Now throughout this comes is furiously passing.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Notes back and forth to Agnifilo, who is.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Trying to stand there and argue and read Ola Shan
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: comes his notes.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Wait for it, Lanshaw.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Agnifilo responds, I just think we should trust him.
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: He's not gonna flee. He just deserves a chance.
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: Lann, please let us all get off this a dirty diddy,
• 38:04
  Speaker 11: degenerate merry go around that we're all on. How dare
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: that lawyer? How dare he He's got a wife, he's
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: got a daughter. I believe he's got sisters, a mother
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: talk like this violence is violence? Trust him. We have
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: seen everything to the contrary, including video evidence of Cassie
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: being beaten. How much more do we need? This goes
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: back to this is one of the worst days here
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: at the Warriors to have all of this video, to
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: hear the way they're talking about victims. Trust him, Trust him.
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: There's no way anybody should trust him. I'm here in
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: New York City and Rob Shooter's correct, We've got these
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: dirty Diddy disciples running around. People should be in fear
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: of this guy. But that brings me to how does
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: he get away with all of this for decades?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: What about the victims.
• 38:52
  Speaker 11: That I've been up for forty eight hours now, counseling, helping,
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: giving out phone numbers, resources, Come stay with me if
• 38:59
  Speaker 11: you don't want to be alone. Well, what a slap
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: in the face today to all of these victim survivors
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: of any kind of sexual abuse. And you know what,
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: this is the problem with sex trafficking. Nobody. I'm a
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  Speaker 11: broken record. Nobody understands it. Nobody understands what forced for coersion.
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  Speaker 11: Nobody understands coersion. And you know what, it is time
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  Speaker 11: we change it up. But this is a travesty. What
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  Speaker 11: a slap in everybody's face.
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  Speaker 4: Sean comes goes to jail, split verdict, not guilty on Rico,
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  Speaker 4: not guilty on two counts of sex trafficking, Guilty on
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  Speaker 4: two counts of bringing people across state lines to engage
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  Speaker 4: in illegal activity, that being prostitution as it relates to
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  Speaker 4: Cassie Ventura a victim, and Jane not her real name
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: a victim. To Robert Crispin joining me PI but former
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  Speaker 4: beat coop, former special investigator with the federal asked for
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  Speaker 4: US for the US Department of Justice, and on and on,
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  Speaker 4: Robert Crispin, have you ever been in a case where
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  Speaker 4: the bad guy walks?
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  Speaker 13: Oh my god, Nancy, this brought back, This brought back
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  Speaker 13: such a memory of a guy.
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  Speaker 10: Who was leaning over the balcony holding two kilos of
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  Speaker 10: cocaine in a CBS bag, getting ready to drop it
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  Speaker 10: on the floor because the Feds were knocking on the
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  Speaker 10: front door and I was covering the back door, and
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  Speaker 10: he dropped it and I got it and I idt him,
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: and we went to the jury and the jury found
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  Speaker 10: him not guilty when me, as the Federal DEA Drug agent,
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: watched him drop that bag. And you know why, Nancy,
• 40:41
  Speaker 10: because juries are so unpredictable. You know why we didn't
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  Speaker 10: pull his DNA off the bag. But I watched him.
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  Speaker 10: I watched him drop those kilos of cocaine out of
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  Speaker 10: the ground.
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  Speaker 13: These juries have a mind of their own.
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  Speaker 4: I know how that must have felt sane. And the
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  Speaker 4: thing is, this is a violent crime. Philip debay from
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  Speaker 4: what the judge was saying when Shawn Combs raised his
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  Speaker 4: hand trying to speak to the judge while Agniffolo was
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: arguing the judge acting like he didn't even see him.
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  Speaker 4: The judge did note the wide divergence between what the
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: state wants a sentencing and what the defense wants a sentencing.
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  Speaker 4: But hearing what the judge said, the judge can't just
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: erase from his mind what he saw on the Cassie
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  Speaker 4: beat down video. He cannot erase from his mind what
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  Speaker 4: the victim said on the stand.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Comes his lawyers appealed his conviction, demanding a federal appeals
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: court overruled the decision and give him immediate release, calling
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: his former girlfriends Cassie Ventira and Jane, who went anonymous
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: on the carpet. He denied all claims, but a jury disagreed. Well,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Shawn Comes. His release date has been well, Shawncambs release
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  Speaker 2: date has jumped up. It's even closer. What's next? I
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  Speaker 2: hate to think about it. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing
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  Speaker 2: off Goodbye friend,