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I'm Stephanie.
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I'm Meredith.
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And welcome to This is My Circus.
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Oh, I got you right there because you were like.
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You did because I had another thought come to my head.
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And I was like, we need to figure something out.
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And then I had to remember my name.
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I hate when that happens.
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Like which one am I, which personality am I today?
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Um, well, so Brandon always told me that when I was being like a little feisty that I was Stephanie with a PH.
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Oh, okay.
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When you're chill, you get the F.
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Mm hmm.
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That's funny.
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That's funny.
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Good to know.
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My alternate.
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Yeah.
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Good to know.
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Yes.
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how was Dylan's birthday?
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It was good.
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he had his friend sleep over, Monday, because they didn't have school Tuesday.
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Right.
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So I just let them do their thing.
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Yeah.
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had like a fire going and the music and I was like, just keep it like low enough because other people like neighbors have work tomorrow.
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Yeah.
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But, they all had to blast and Good.
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Did y'all do the movies on Tuesday?
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I kept asking him all day, where are we gonna go?
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Ruthie ended up coming over and so we had dinner here and, they hung out for a couple hours and she gave him his birthday presents or whatever.
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And then, by the time she left, it was like, eight 30.
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And so he's like, do you want to watch a movie here?
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He loves my bed.
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Cause my bed is like super squishy.
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Like, Oh yeah.
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I mean like you just like sink into it.
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Yeah.
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he's like, can we watch it in your room?
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And I was like, yeah, so he ended up falling asleep in the bed.
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He was really funny.
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Cause I was trying to wake him up to go into his room.
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And I'm like, Hey, do you want to get up to go to your room?
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And he's like, What time do I have to get up?
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And I'm like, regular school time.
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And he's like, what time do I go to sleep?
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I'm like, I don't know what time to go to sleep.
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And he's like, but what time, what time do I have to be there?
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And I'm like, at school?
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We catch him in between sleep and wake and they are so confused.
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We're, I'm, what am I doing?
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And I was like, you need to go into your room to go to bed.
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That reminded me of something that happened last night.
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I have to tell you.
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Oh, go for it.
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I've told you before about like, Brian has a sleep apnea.
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Sometimes I snore if I'm congested or tired or whatever.
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Brian will, if I start to snore, last night apparently, It's a little dainty feminine somewhere I was going.
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he'll tell me to sit up or to roll.
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You know, he usually says sit up.
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Well, I don't know why, but I never understand his directions.
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And I never follow through correctly, so I usually like will sit up in the bed and then just fall back asleep sitting up and not go back, like it's a whole thing.
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Well last night he told me to raise up, and I thought he was telling me to raise the bed up.
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So I got up and was trying to pick up the bed.
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Can you get up and try to help you?
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It's like, what are you doing?
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And I don't remember all of it.
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And I had forgotten about it too.
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You were just talking about that, but yeah, I tried to pick up the bus.
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Like apparently when I'm asleep, like Dylan, there's all kinds of things going on in my head.
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So I'm such a light sleeper yeah, I don't have that.
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I not that I know of anyway.
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I'm having in between like.
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That's what's so crazy is, especially since having Jackson when he was little, the slightest noise, I could hear him, Brian I don't sleep through everything and you know, you know, this man, instead of saying sleeping like a baby, they should say sleeping like a husband, the baby daddy.
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Daddy.
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Yeah.
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Um, yeah, so I don't know, but I guess I'm just in such a deep sleep and that's why I'm snoring.
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I don't know.
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Well, I'm glad that that you guys had fun.
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Yeah.
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Have y'all watched the new Outer Banks that came out last night?
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we were supposed to watch it last night.
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By the time Dylan got home from work, he got home like semi late, took a shower and he's like, yeah, I'm just really tired.
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I'm like, I totally get it.
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Yeah.
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Go to bed.
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Yeah.
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Your bed.
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Um, not my squishy bed.
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Oh my gosh.
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That sounds great.
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I want a bed that feels like a cloud.
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Yeah.
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Brian wants a piece of plywood.
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Yes.
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We are going to have to get one of those.
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Sleep number bids.
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10, 000.
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Well, so we, we had looked at those when we were shopping a couple of years ago, but Brandon had always like rolled over to my side of the bed and I was like, well, would that be weird?
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Like half rock half cloud.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I hate a hard bed.
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Like I want I know I do too.
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Cloud like give me all the fluff.
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Brian, sneaks onto my side too, like as he's rolling around getting comfortable and I'm always like, that's going to be a flag for, uh, what's it called when they interfere?
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Encroachment, a supply and get back to you.
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I get so hot when I sleep.
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Do you?
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Give it a few more years.
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So I just saw, I don't know, I got on to like the 40 and over side of TikTok somehow.
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Welcome to the dark side.
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But the lady was talking about I've never seen them before or even heard of them before, but there's cooling pajamas.
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I've never heard of the pajamas.
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I want them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I want those.
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I've got the cooling blanket.
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Like that stays like, is it really?
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I might've gotten like a knockoff one.
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I don't know.
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I got it on Tik Tok, but, it is very cool when you get into bed.
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Yeah.
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you know, as soon as I move, like it's cold.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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but it does.
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See, I am very complicated because sometimes I want a heated blanket.
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But then I'll have a hot flash and then I want my fan on.
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Like it's just a whole, apparently I'm very, very, sleep situation needy.
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Well, no, I just want the fan on.
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I want cold and cold.
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Yeah.
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And what a windy, cold cloud.
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Yes.
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A hundred percent.
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last night I was so hot.
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What the frickin November and it's 80 degrees.
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Yeah.
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Mid November consistently feels like crap house.
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Yes.
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Or do you love it?
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Cause I know you were somewhere.
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I enjoy like a 75, 80.
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Okay.
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I'm good in that range.
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I don't want it like super hot.
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Yeah.
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like in the summer when it's like 146 degrees.
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The humidity has been so bad this week with the nasty weather.
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Today's better.
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I'm just glad the sun's out cause I can't take it in the rain.
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The rain is killing me.
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Agreed.
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Agreed.
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So that can stay away.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just, I need the seasons.
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I need a little bit of a shift before we go into that 32 degree.
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Well, and it doesn't get too bad here.
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We have like a month, maybe six weeks of cold, cold.
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I outside get cold so quick.
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Yeah.
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I have like the full, down to like the calf jacket.
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Oh my gosh.
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I love those though.
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Because they cover the butt.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and especially like in sports.
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Oh, yeah.
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Lacrosse starts in February.
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Well, and those are our coldest months.
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Really?
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You were talking about it's like from the end of January to usually March.
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It's freezing.
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Yeah.
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So I have the big, and it's got like a big furry fur on it.
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I have like a ski hat on.
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I have like the hood up.
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I have my electric socks.
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Yeah.
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Do you have the, hand warmers, the ones, the rechargeable ones?
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Yes.
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I wish I would have invented those.
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Yeah, but I never remember to charge anything.
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Like, that's my problem.
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Plug them up now.
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Where are they at?
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I don't need them right now.
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But I do love the electric socks.
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That has the warmers in the socks.
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How does that work?
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It's got like, I don't know, these wire things in them and it, it like heats, it has a battery.
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Okay, it has a little pocket like right on the side and you stick the battery into the little pocket.
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That's I need those.
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And, they come up to almost the knee.
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but they work really well.
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Well, the thing too, is once I get cold and if my feet get cold, forget about it.
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It's not, yeah, it's not good.
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um, did you see, what's his name?
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I'm having a hard time with names today.
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Everybody's Smith to me.
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No, it's the center that just retired on the Eagles.
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Yes, Kelsey, Jason Kelsey with the phone.
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Yes, just kept seeing like the headlines.
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So what was the backstory with that?
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So he was at a college football game and, Kid college student there was making derogatory comments about his brother dating Taylor okay.
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And, was recording while saying this stuff.
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And so Jason grabbed the phone and slammed it on the ground and.
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Said what he said.
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I hate that.
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But, you know, he came out and he basically said, I am sorry for reacting to toxic people.
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I shouldn't do that, but it's not my character and I will continue to, you know, do better every day.
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But what I'm proud of him is he did not apologize to that person directly because that person shouldn't have been all about him with the camera.
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Like trying to provoke him.
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Yes, that's what it was.
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I mean, it was trying to get a video to post on social media.
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Yeah.
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Of Jason Kelce losing it and either that or like being punked right kids talking trash about his brother something.
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Yeah And here's your new phone kid.
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Sorry about that other one Well, you probably had to sure he had to but I mean I'd get him a downgrade here's a Nokia Why are flip phones coming back?
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I don't know.
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The razor?
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Oh man, I love my razor.
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The pink one?
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I had a red one.
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Yeah, so the backing back and then I just saw I have somebody else is coming out with like a flip phone too, but I looked at them at the store and like they are cool like you can like take it can be folded and you can use the outside as a screen.
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Yeah, it's really cool.
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All the technology.
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I know.
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Mind blown.
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Yes.
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So, flip phones are back.
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Flip phones are back.
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Blub blub blub blub.
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Blub blub blub blub.
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Blub blub I just realized who I sound like.
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Who?
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On the Muppets Uhhuh, the chef.
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Oh, That's me.
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Who, who would play you in your life movie?
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Oh, the Chef Muppets You know who I love from the Muppets?
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the Peanut Gallery.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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That set up the, the ler.
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Yes, they're great.
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Oh, I loved the Muppets.
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It was pretty good.
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No, what I really loved though, when I was little Fraggle Rock.
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Oh, that was my favorite.
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And I told my mom when I got like old enough to I was probably like teenager.
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I was like, this is like the Muppets on acid.
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Yeah.
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A hundred percent.
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The little doozers.
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Oh my gosh.
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I love Fraggle Rock.
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I love Fraggle Rock.
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Yes.
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That was, that was one of my favorites.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah did you see all the primates that escaped?
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Oh, Did you see my post?
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I was like, no.
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I was like, y'all need to stop rolling the Jumanji dice because a hundred percent you do not need.
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No, no.
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None of no more of this.
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So this isn't the first time it happened though.
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So, so what we're talking about, there was a research facility in, South Carolina.
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Mm-Hmm.
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that 42.
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primates got loose.
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Yep.
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And the person, the caretaker of the monkeys had left the door open, I guess, after she had done something.
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Yeah, the pressure release was so funny.
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It's like she didn't properly close the door or something like, yeah, dude, she forgot.
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And so they say that monkeys are very social.
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And so once the first couple of monkeys made their escape, the rest of them followed.
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So there's random monkeys.
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They said you might want to keep your windows and doors closed.
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Yes, but this isn't the first time that this has happened.
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It happened in 2019 as well from the same facility.
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So I want to say the name of the town's like.
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or something like that.
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It's low country, South Carolina.
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It's not far from Charleston.
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I was really hoping the monkeys would make it this far.
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I don't because these are the monkeys that are used for testing vaccinations.
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So they're being given the disease.
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Yeah.
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Oh, well then crap.
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So no, thank you.
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No, but I mean it'd be cool to like see like a monkey in the tree, but I don't what if what if like you just Yeah, you just want jumped on rex's back That's exactly what I was picturing, Speaking of animals and I know like we're going a little bit long winded before our book But did you see that this horrible awful woman?
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Called animal control on a tiktoker that had a rescue squirrel and a rescue raccoon Was this peanut?
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Yes.
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Peanut the squirrel.
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Yeah.
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And they, raided his house.
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I mean, the video showed like 20, like, why do you need 20 officers to go in?
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And they destroyed his house.
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Like they tore it apart.
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It was so sad.
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The little squirrel had a little toboggan.
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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So, went to court.
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Judge said, no, these are domesticated animals.
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You can have them back.
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When they went to go pick them up, they were euthanized already.
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I didn't know that part.
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Yeah, so this horrible.
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I know that they had been euthanized, but I didn't know he had given them permission to go get that.
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Yeah, the judge had ruled and said that they were domesticated animals and.
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You can have them back.
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And then when they went to go pick them up, they were.
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Terrible.
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I'd love a raccoon though.
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Gosh, we can't go on that tangent again.
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We've talked about that.
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I know, but I was so sad.
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That is sad.
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I don't remember where they were.
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Do you remember?
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New York.
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New York.
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Like upstate New York, I think.
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Okay.
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There's another guy on TikTok I'll follow who's got like a whole squirrel family.
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Have you seen him?
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Like, he, they're, they're wild.
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But one that he made friends with first was named Maxine.
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And yeah, and he like built a little house for him.
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And then he had Raymond coming up and he was like, Raymond is a hood rat, but Rayford can come up.
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Like he just, yeah, it's great.
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I adore that.
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And I think I said this before, when we moved into Our house here.
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Yeah.
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the people before us in that house used to feed the squirrels, like they would come up and take peanuts from your hand and stuff like that, which is really cool until you ran out of peanuts and you would go into the kitchen and they would be hanging on your screens and you would just have like four squirrels looking in your kitchen.
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That was not okay.
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And then they got like mad because we didn't get peanuts quick enough.
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yeah, did it like re up our peanut supply.
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And it was biting like holes in the plastic in the sliding door store.
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Did you have to wean them all?
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Well, that's when I started sending Mo out to chase him.
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Yeah, and that too.
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Oh my gosh.
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But yeah, so I would prefer a raccoon over a squirrel, I think.
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Yeah, a hundred percent.
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I mean, they're, they're like cute from afar.
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Um, yeah.
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They just freaked me out now when I saw them like hanging out on the trees.
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Yeah, well, and they, you know, they do carry the rabies and stuff.
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Well, I just figured if you're rescuing, if it's a rescue and it's like raised from a baby.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm talking about the ones hanging off your back screen.
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Yeah, I don't want those.
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They could just go back into the trees.
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Dylan used to collect all the acorns that would fall in the backyard and put them in buckets and then leave them out back because like I don't need acorns in the house and the squirrels would like just like dive into the buckets.
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That's hilarious.
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That's really cute.
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Yeah, I would send him out there with a bucket.
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I'm like go collect acorns yeah, go burn some energy.
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Yeah, absolutely When we were talking about the primates I had this whole conversation in my head.
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It was great.
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Are there monkeys in the US?
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Like wild?
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There's not, I don't think so.
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They're not like on purpose.
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Right?
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so after this, outbreak or whatever in 2019, the U S had put all these monkeys on an island.
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The monkeys have taken over the island.
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That's a movie.
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Morgan Island.
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It's off of Beaufort.
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Off of Beaufort, South Carolina?
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Yes.
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So the monkeys have taken over?
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Yeah.
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Company secured a federal contract to run a colony of 3, 500 monkeys on Morgan Island off of South Carolina, which is also known as Monkey Island.
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Oh my gosh.
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Is that not bananas?
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Are there any people on this island?
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I don't know.
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Not now.
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In 2022, oh yeah, so there was like an outbreak in like 2019, I think, and then, and then in 2022, it says three monkeys escaped following a traffic accident in rural Pennsylvania.
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How does that happen?
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So I used to live right outside of Nashville and we would go to the all the time.
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Uh huh.
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And of course in Tennessee, there's tornadoes and my thought always was, what if there's a tornado that hits the zoo and like the lions get out.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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Talk about Jumanji.
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Like that would be like legit Jumanji.
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Imagine like sitting at a stoplight and just the lion walking in front of you.
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That is in a movie.
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I can't remember which one, but yeah.
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It could happen.
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Yeah.
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Like an elephant, just doo doo doo doo.
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Yeah, that probably can't hide as well as the monkeys.
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Like, what are the monkeys doing right now?
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Oh, they're living their best life at the moment.
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Being stuck in a research facility.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's what I always think when I see, the dogs that get loose in the neighborhood.
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Oh, yeah.
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And they're living their best life, you know?
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They're like, I know I get to sleep on your bed and I get good food, but I did not know all this was out here.
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I can pee on everything.
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I really hope that our listeners are following our ADD today.
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We are pretty bad.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, that is, that is crazy.
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I'm gonna have to look into that.
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Like, I want to see pictures of it.
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We can find pictures.
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I mean, it's really pretty.
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Morgan Island is uninhabited and is home to a breeding colony of approximately 3, 500 free range Indian origin monkeys.
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370 acres.
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Semi tropical maritime forest where the monkey colony primarily resides.
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Where's the other residents?
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They primarily reside there.
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Where else do they reside?
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Well, maybe just not in the jungle part.
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They don't have a winter home.
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They go to the beach.
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They have their mountain home and their beach house.
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At least summer near the coast.
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Oh my goodness.
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That's really pretty, Ellen.
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It is.
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I just Oh, that would be really gross though.
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Think about it.
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I know.
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I don't want to go.
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The other thing I would never want to do is, you know, in the Bahamas you can swim with the pigs.
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I didn't want to do that either, but they're really little.
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I don't know.
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Like pigs are not my thing.
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Yeah.
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So we went to the Bahamas a few years ago and Jackson tried to get me to do it.
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Well, I was picturing big old hogs for slaughter and my mom, really bad today, really bad today.
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So my mom grew up.
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Near a farm they had hogs and they would chase her and she was scared of them.
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They would be pinned, but like if she, they were in a pin, but if she would go in there and feed them and didn't get out enough, then they were mean.
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So she's told me the story all my life.
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So, of course, now I have this fear of hogs.
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Well, We did not swim with the pigs.
19:00
We did the stingrays.
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That was great.
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Well, after I got back and did the, research on it, they're little pigs.
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Yeah.
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And they're really cute.
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Yeah.
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And then they just like lay on the beach.
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I would do it now because they're little.
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Pigs are just not my thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so it is our, um, I was trying to think of like a funny name for this month and I said, I put it's giving month.
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So it's giving, it's stabbing friends.
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Okay.
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Which is our episode today.
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Okay.
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What's giving?
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It's giving.
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I struggled this week.
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So did I.
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Okay.
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What'd you come up with?
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Like, did you come up with a lot of stories or anything?
19:35
Um, I, a couple of times.
19:37
Okay.
19:37
Friends turning on friends.
19:38
Okay.
19:39
I came across a lot of friends episodes, the TV show, and I ended up watching some, some of that distracted.
19:46
Totally.
19:47
I know that surprises everybody.
19:49
The one where Monica puts the turkey on her head, loved friends.
19:53
I love friends.
19:54
Yes.
19:55
So do I.
19:55
Yeah.
19:56
So, Oh, Obviously.
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Um, but let's start with our book review.
20:02
Yes.
20:02
So you got our blurby?
20:04
Yes.
20:04
So this week we read Not Bad People by Brandy Scott.
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this was her debut book a clever, compelling debut novel with a unique premise of what happens when three best friends engage in what seems to be a harmless act, but instead results in tragedy, leading the to confront buried resentments.
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Shattering secrets, dark lies, and the moral consequences that could alter their lives forever.
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Three friends, 30 years of shared secrets, one impulsive gesture, and a terrible accident.
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When friendship goes bad, someone has to pay.
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It's New Year's Eve.
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Three 30 something women, Amy, Melinda, and Lou, best friends for decades, let off sky lanterns filled with resolutions.
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For meaning for freedom for money as the glowing paper bags float away There's a bright flare in the distance It could be a sign of luck or the start of a complete nightmare that will append their friendship families and careers The day after their ceremony the newspaper reports a small plane crash Two victims pulled from the wreckage.
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One, a young boy.
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Were they responsible?
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Amy thinks they are.
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Melinda won't accept it, and Lou has problems of her own.
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It's a toxic recipe for guilt trips, shame, obsession, blackmail, and power games.
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They're not bad people, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
21:19
This book was freaking long.
21:21
It was very long.
21:23
Okay, so an audiobook.
21:25
Apparently it was, it was based in Australia.
21:27
Yes.
21:28
So that threw me.
21:29
Wasn't expecting that.
21:31
I know you love an accent.
21:32
I do love an accent.
21:33
But as soon as I was like, oh, let me see.
21:35
Where are they?
21:36
Oh, I'll show you.
21:36
Got it.
21:38
Very slow start for me.
21:40
Very, I almost gave up on it at like the 30 percent mark.
21:43
I was like, this is too, this is not it.
21:45
I could not get into it as a start at all.
21:49
It was a bunch of nothing.
21:50
Yes.
21:51
It was terrible.
21:51
It was too much.
21:52
It was.
21:53
So the book, if you do the audio book, it's 16 hours long, 16 hours.
21:57
I did not realize it was that long.
21:59
16 hours.
22:01
Sorry.
22:01
For something that should have been like half of that.
22:04
At least.
22:04
Yeah.
22:05
Well, most of our books are, most of our books are about eight.
22:08
We've had those long books before uhhuh, but those have so much information.
22:12
That makes sense.
22:12
Yeah.
22:14
I'm okay with that when it makes sense or when, when it adds value.
22:16
I feel like that was going nowhere.
22:18
Oh my gosh.
22:19
Nowhere, nowhere.
22:20
And I kept thinking this is going to mean something.
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And then it was never mentioned again.
22:24
And I kept getting lost because when they switched character, yeah, there wasn't any like transition.
22:29
I don't think that they said like the chapter numbers the audio book, and that's probably why it might switch chapters.
22:34
They did like a heavy pause, but when you're listening to it on 1.
22:40
5 or when you're just, you know, trying to listen to the book, you don't think.
22:44
About about it.
22:45
So yeah, they didn't distinguish really well.
22:48
Big thumbs down.
22:49
Yeah.
22:49
It was, it was not great.
22:51
So in my head, Because it was so long.
22:54
I thought all of this time had passed throughout this whole story.
22:57
Right.
22:58
It was like two weeks.
22:59
Yeah.
23:00
I feel like we lived every second of those two weeks.
23:02
Oh my gosh.
23:03
I know.
23:04
I thought the same thing.
23:05
Okay spoilers and stuff I thought we were going to get to meet tansy's baby.
23:09
Like I thought we were going to get to know What's going on here?
23:12
Did you figure out who Tansy's dad was at all?
23:16
I mean, neither.
23:17
No, I didn't even know Melinda.
23:19
Had a brother.
23:19
Right.
23:20
That came out of nowhere.
23:21
I thought it was gonna be the dude that was in the wreck with because yeah Yeah, which then I was like horrified for a minute.
23:29
Yeah, that's well when they started talking about the baby having extra chromosomes Yeah, I was like, well, maybe there's some interfamilial Relationship that made the baby that have made the baby have a deformity.
23:41
Yeah.
23:41
To I don't remember them ever even mentioning Melinda had a brother.
23:45
I didn't.
23:46
So there was no way that anybody could have guessed that.
23:48
Right.
23:48
I think that was cheating.
23:49
Yeah.
23:50
You gotta introduce us to the characters.
23:52
Yeah.
23:53
Before you're all of a sudden like, and I may have missed it.
23:56
Did they ever tell Paul that he's going to be a grandpa?
23:59
Not that I recall.
24:00
I don't recall that.
24:01
But I know that Lou had asked him if he wants to hang out with him at the end of the book.
24:05
Like, yeah, because you know, he's going to be all alone and he lost his job.
24:09
Due to circumstances with a plane crash.
24:12
Yeah.
24:12
But I don't remember them ever saying she's having your grandkids.
24:15
Right.
24:16
I wanted them to tell Paul.
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I wanted them to tell Paul It's horrible that this happened, but like a piece of him lived on.
24:21
Right.
24:22
Hopefully.
24:23
Right because they introduced some complications they may or may not be complications with me.
24:28
I feel like they were trying to set this book up for there to be a sequel.
24:32
And we will not be reading that because with the way it ends with Melinda at the end, did you catch on to that?
24:37
Yes.
24:38
I'm sure you did.
24:38
You're a smart cookie.
24:40
Where is the very last line.
24:42
I was so excited.
24:44
yeah, so We're never reading another book that this lady writes again.
24:47
Mm-Hmm.
24:48
Um.
24:49
Okay, let's move on from this stupid book.
24:50
Okay.
24:51
What would you rate it?
24:52
Two.
24:53
Okay.
24:53
I was like gonna say like three, four.
24:56
Be generous.
24:57
Okay.
24:58
Cause I felt bad because this is this lady's first book, this was not it for me.
25:02
No, this wasn't good.
25:04
Don't read this one y'all But read our next one.
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It'll be much better.
25:10
I really hope so.
25:10
It's only six hours.
25:12
It's a shorter one.
25:13
It is The Guilty One by Kirsten Moglen.
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So next week it's, it's giving family drama.
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Yep.
25:22
It's getting family drama.
25:23
And we should, be able to find a lot of stuff with that.
25:26
Yeah.
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What did you find out this week besides friends?
25:30
So this isn't drama, but it's friends and, and Thanksgiving, so I figured it'd be okay.
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You've seen the text of the woman who.
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Texted somebody that she thought was her grandson.
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And she's like, Hey, what time are you coming for Thanksgiving?
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And I love that story.
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And he's like, I don't think you.
25:49
Message the right person and they send pictures to each other and one is black and one is white and their families weren't interracial So they were like, yeah, definitely wrong person.
25:58
But and he was like, can I still get a plate though?
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She was like, absolutely.
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That's what grandmas do and so they've been having Thanksgiving together for years years Yeah, and I just think that's a fun.
26:08
I love that story, too.
26:10
Yeah, I want to start I'm gonna message somebody randomly asking Yeah, I would probably get a serial killer that could go really bad.
26:15
I can go really bad really, really quickly.
26:18
Yeah, absolutely.
26:20
So I did some friends giving stuff and that did you know where that started?
26:25
The Real Housewives.
26:26
Oh really?
26:27
Didn't know that.
26:27
Me either.
26:28
Do you watch the Real Housewives?
26:30
No.
26:30
Did you ever?
26:31
Yeah not all of them though.
26:32
Like the Jersey I watched like when it originally was on.
26:36
Yeah.
26:36
and then the OC.
26:38
You know what I want to watch?
26:39
Mob Wives.
26:41
I've never watched that.
26:42
I think that lifestyle is so interesting because most of them are not necessarily mob wives, their children, where their dads were the heavy mob guys, allegedly.
26:53
Well, you know, now they have, it's a show called the house of villains and they take all of the, villains from, all the different reality shows and put them in a house and they have to do competitions and they have to like backstab each other.
27:04
Oh, that'd be great.
27:06
Yeah.
27:06
Um, yeah, I really didn't find a lot.
27:09
So I just kind of put in like, friend crimes or like backstabbing friend crimes, something to that effect.
27:14
And I got a lot.
27:15
Okay.
27:16
Of very similar stories, which scares me.
27:19
I think me putting in the word Thanksgiving threw up all my results.
27:22
Yeah.
27:22
So you, what kind of similarities did you see?
27:25
So the 1 case that I kind of, like, went in on, because I have heard of it before, but I didn't like really go deep dive into it was Skylar Nice.
27:33
I feel like I've heard this name.
27:35
Skylar went missing in July of 2012.
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Her two best friends, quote unquote, best friends, went on social media expressing concern, fear, hope, you know, praying she comes home.
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Police initially thought she ran away because she snuck out of her house to go hang out with her friends.
27:51
She was a teenager, right?
27:52
They're 15, 16.
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Yeah.
27:54
so the cops thought she was just a runaway, which, right, by the way, public service announcement.
27:59
That's not really a thing where you have to wait 24 to 48 hours.
28:02
Yeah.
28:02
So if, especially for a minor, right.
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So if somebody goes missing, do you don't have to wait.
28:08
Go ahead and call.
28:08
If you, if something's out of the norm, not feeling right, that gut, give them a call.
28:12
Yeah.
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So, her two friends, Rachel and Sheila, told the police eventually, yes, she snuck out.
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We went to hang out, but we dropped her off, a block away from the apartment that she lived in with her parents so she can sneak back in without getting caught.
28:26
So police and FBI comes in eventually and they're like, something's off here, but they couldn't really prove it about six months later.
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Rachel had a mental breakdown and confessed to the police.
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She led them to the body and so at least her parents could, bury her.
28:43
After doing the autopsy, this poor girl was stabbed 50 times.
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And they had just used regular kitchen knives to do this.
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And they had planned for over a month, this whole scheme.
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The plan was to pick her up at her house at night, drive to a remote area to smoke marijuana once they were in the woods, the plan was to count to three, then stab Skylar to death.
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Authorities say that Skylar was found with over 50 stab wounds.
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Sheila denied it to the FBI, she denied it, denied, denied.
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She was.
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Feelings, had no remorse.
29:16
Exactly.
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So got a warrant.
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They searched her house, took all of her electronic devices.
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When they searched her car, they found.
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Skylar's blood in a trunk.
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So they arrested her.
29:29
The other one was already arrested, obviously, I'm confessing.
29:32
the one that had absolutely no remorse, Pleaded guilty to first degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
29:39
Rachel pleaded guilty to second degree murder because of her cooperation.
29:42
Mm-Hmm.
29:43
and got 30 years and she was eligible for parole So she was just eligible for parole last year and it was denied.
29:50
When they asked the girls why they did it, Rachel said they just didn't like her and didn't want to be friends with her anymore.
29:57
But there is another theory, I guess, from people that know this group, of girls that a month before Rachel and Sheila hooked up in front of Skylar.
30:07
Uh, yeah, I've heard that.
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And that made Skylar mad and she said she was going to tell everyone about it.
30:12
And then this started.
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But the creepy thing is Sheila, the one that with no remorse had tweeted 1 month before she got arrested.
30:20
We really did go on 3 referring to the girls counting down down.
30:26
You mentioned that there are several similar to this.
30:29
I don't know if this is the same 1.
30:31
There was one where there were two girls that were friends and the third girl moved in and The girl that moved in and one of the original girls ended up killing the other girl was this similar.
30:43
Yeah To this one like same thing.
30:46
Yeah, I mean 50 stab wounds is a lot But they're not dying instantly.
30:50
Especially with a kitchen knife.
30:51
With the kitchen knife.
30:53
It was so many similar, which is, yes, scares the crap out of me.
30:56
Oh gosh.
30:57
Um, but like this lender man murders in New York.
31:01
but besides that, There are like, there was some boy stuff too, like where the, it was like boys doing this stuff.
31:08
Mm-Hmm.
31:09
But there were so many girls that stuff were girls.
31:11
And that's terrifying.
31:12
Mm-Hmm.
31:13
I mean, it's terrifying either way.
31:14
Right.
31:14
I don't know why I just shook me up.
31:16
But did you, hear that Australia, case where a whole group of girls were having a sleepover and they had planned to Beat up one of the girls at the sleepover and ended up killing her.
31:28
I mean, they tortured her.
31:29
Paula tortured her.
31:31
and then our small little town.
31:34
Right.
31:34
of Clover, South Carolina.
31:36
Yeah.
31:36
Had a super similar thing happen.
31:39
Was it last summer or the summer before?
31:41
I feel like it was the summer.
31:42
I feel like it was the summer before.
31:43
We talked about it when it first happened on here.
31:45
So it was when we first started our pod.
31:47
which you just don't expect it to happen in your town.
31:49
No, no.
31:51
How about the girl that went to to Mexico?
31:54
Young lady.
31:55
They were like 20, 21, a group of like six ladies.
31:58
One of them was from Charlotte.
32:00
So it was recently they went to Mexico, the Bahamas somewhere and they beat the crap out of her and killed her while she was there.
32:07
Oh, I didn't hear that.
32:09
Yes.
32:10
Oh, that was terrible.
32:11
Let me find her name.
32:12
Okay.
32:12
So, her name was Robinson.
32:15
She died while on vacation in Mexico with 6 of her friends.
32:19
She was 25.
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The friends initially told the authorities that the young girl died of alcohol poison, but the autopsy later conducted by Mexican officials revealed that she died as a result of a spinal injury.
32:33
Then the video came out later showing a naked Robinson being physically attacked by one of her fellow trip mates.
32:41
Another person in the room even told Robinson to fight back, and she said, no.
32:45
Yeah, they killed her in Mexico.
32:47
But again, women, yeah, I don't get it.
32:49
I don't get it taken it that far.
32:51
Yeah.
32:51
So yeah, I don't.
32:54
Yeah.
32:55
Um, there was a girl on Tik TOK that did a story time that her friends, when she was 15 or six to 16, I believe.
33:03
Her friends tried to poison her.
33:06
She was in typical teen, had smoked pot before, you know, whatever.
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Experimented.
33:12
Her friend picked her up.
33:13
They went to, another friend's house, the guy's house.
33:15
And the whole way there, her friend's like, Oh, are you going to smoke?
33:18
Are you going to?
33:20
This girl, Lexi was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:22
So they get there and the stuff is out on the table.
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And.
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He's like, oh, are you going to smoke?
33:27
And Lexi said, yeah, I'm going to and the other girl like, no, I'm not going to smoke.
33:31
I'm good.
33:32
And Lexi was like, well, that's weird.
33:35
Why not?
33:35
Right.
33:36
Whatever.
33:36
And the guy was like, oh, ladies 1st and he packs the, the water bong and she takes a huge hit.
33:43
And.
33:43
He was like, Oh, I wasn't expecting that.
33:45
And she was like, what?
33:46
And so she gets all jacked up from whatever they laced the pot with.
33:54
And they beat the crap out of her.
33:57
I don't know if she said that she was like assaulted any other way, other than just physically beaten, But I guess the kid's mom heard her yelling and came upstairs and said, get her out of here.
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She's going to die.
34:12
And it's not going to be in my house.
34:13
So, she goes to run and her friend was like, what are you doing?
34:18
Like, trying to make her feel like she was crazy and then pushed her down the stairs.
34:24
So she is able to get up and get out of the house and she's like screaming in the road, like, help me, help me, help me.
34:29
Oh, my gosh.
34:30
Anytime somebody stopped, her friend was telling them that it was her sister.
34:34
Please don't call the cops.
34:35
She's schizophrenic.
34:36
Right?
34:37
Right.
34:37
Having an episode right down.
34:39
I'm just trying to get her back in the house.
34:40
And luckily this 1 man was like, I'm not talking to you.
34:43
I'm talking to her and he was on the phone with the police.
34:45
Good.
34:46
So he got an ambulance to come.
34:48
The ambulance said the other girl was trying to like dip out, like nothing to do with it.
34:52
It was acting weird.
34:54
and the cops were obviously called.
34:56
The poor girl was in the hospital for like several days from mental stuff, from the drugs.
35:03
Because of what?
35:05
There was no actual cause.
35:07
Right.
35:07
There's no cause that could make you do this to a person regardless.
35:11
There's no like excuse for it.
35:14
But no charges were ever brought up for anybody in this situation.
35:18
Cause there was no like quote, like hard evidence that is crazy.
35:22
Yeah.
35:23
So the only guy situation that's coming to mind where there's friends who they do terrible crimes is Aaron Hernandez.
35:32
so most of you guys probably know who that is.
35:35
He was a football player.
35:37
He played for the Patriots.
35:38
He was from the New England area and he, murdered a dude, two dudes, at least.
35:48
But same thing, they were friends.
35:50
So one of the last dudes he murdered was dating his baby mama's sister.
35:56
So they were like a little family.
35:58
He was eventually sentenced and he was in prison and he ended his life.
36:03
And, the reason for it is not 100 percent known.
36:07
There's all kinds of allegations there and rumors and stories about, you know, dude had seen Aaron with dudes and, you know, things like that are over drugs or what?
36:18
But yeah, that's only dude situation like that.
36:21
I can think of.
36:22
Yeah.
36:22
Just recently, teenage boy was at a party.
36:25
He was 15 and got beaten so bad that he died at the party.
36:30
And there was like a video of it too.
36:32
Because the kids video everything and everything, they put it all out on Snapchat and whatever.
36:36
And people saw it.
36:37
Save it, screen record, whatever.
36:39
But yeah, he was 15 and went to like an after, homecoming party or something to that effect.
36:44
one of his kids that got beat up friends called 911 at the party.
36:49
Thank God.
36:51
Because they were able to then connect it all and, and get the people that did it.
36:54
Yeah.
36:54
It was heartbreaking.
36:55
And I, for the parents of the kids that are getting killed, and I mean, even if it was just assaulted jump.
37:02
Right, right, right.
37:03
I that's tough.
37:07
I would be the mom going to jail.
37:09
Yeah.
37:10
I'd be in jail.
37:10
It's just like 15 year olds planning for months to stab somebody and having the plan and tweeting about it or posting about it before and after.
37:19
And I don't, it's just crazy.
37:22
Don't get me wrong.
37:22
Like I have been in my.
37:24
share of altercations.
37:27
Well, you know, but this is going to sound really crazy, but fights were different when we were younger.
37:32
You threw a couple of punches.
37:34
or clawed a little bit, and it was over.
37:38
Teachers broke it up, so things just were different.
37:40
We went south on this Dark, and it's sad.
37:44
Let's move on.
37:45
Okay, so figure out way to make that an end so like testing like your level of loyalty, right?
37:54
What is your breaking point that you would turn somebody in what they do?
37:59
I don't know Okay, start with your absolute BFF.
38:01
Is there anything that they could do that would make you turn them in?
38:05
Hurt my kid.
38:05
I would absolutely, that's not okay.
38:10
Yeah.
38:10
I don't know.
38:12
How about like a good friend, but like not your bestie?
38:17
Is there like a different level of turning in?
38:20
Yeah, probably.
38:22
Maybe not turning in like calling the cops, but being more petty with it.
38:25
Like.
38:26
Calling where they work and leaving a bad review.
38:30
No, I don't know.
38:31
I just I'm trying to think of something that would.
38:34
If somebody like a surface level friend, uh, murdered somebody when you turn them in.
38:39
Yeah.
38:39
I think I would.
38:40
Okay.
38:41
But I mean, what did I, was I there?
38:43
See, this is where I'm not good at this.
38:44
Cause I want to know, I need like everything I need.
38:47
Yeah.
38:47
I can't just do like a, what if I need to know, was I there?
38:51
Was it an accident?
38:52
Was it premeditated?
38:53
Like all the things.
38:54
But I think, yeah, I'd like to think if I knew somebody killed somebody I would turn them in.
39:00
If you had to say, if I, if I called you from, from jail and I was like, Oh my gosh, I just got arrested.
39:06
What do you think it would be for?
39:11
Out of control in a bar.
39:16
Or a concert.
39:17
A public venue.
39:21
Oh my gosh, I think that yours would be for rescuing an animal, that didn't need rescuing.
39:27
Like I stole a dog, from some, like I took Rex, cause I thought he wasn't happy here.
39:32
Yeah, 100%.
39:34
I would 100 percent do that.
39:37
Yeah, I don't think yours would be anything like dark like you were, you know, driving while intoxicated or anything like that.
39:43
You're too smart and you have Dylan, but But like he would be the one who would be like in a bar and be like, you know what?
39:50
I bet I could punch them over there and they wouldn't even do anything and then like it would just snowball to this big like saloon brawl.
39:57
I never threw the first punch ever.
39:59
Okay.
39:59
That was my rule growing up.
40:00
My dad laid down the rules of you don't ever go the first punch.
40:03
Don't ever throw the first punch, but you better finish it.
40:05
Finish it.
40:05
That's kinda what I told Jackson too.
40:07
And that's the rule that we always told Dylan, what about you?
40:11
What's your line like if I, hit and run.
40:13
Nobody got killed, but we're in a car and I, yeah, no, I didn't see nothing.
40:19
I, I know nothing.
40:20
What about if, another one of our friends, what about if she, what if they were stealing from their company?
40:29
I wouldn't bother you.
40:31
I was not.
40:31
I mean, it's not your company, right?
40:33
I mean, I, listen, I'm on my own business.
40:36
Yeah.
40:38
I think like you said, like the whole like child thing for sure.
40:42
Like, but other than that, I just really don't want to be involved.
40:45
I want to know though.
40:46
Oh, I want to know.
40:47
But then I'm going to say, I don't know.
40:48
Okay.
40:48
So another situation you're driving down the road.
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77, 85, whatever, one of the interstates.
40:53
And there's somebody in front of you who's like weaving all over the road, like driving very erratically.
41:00
Are you going to call the cops and let them know there's somebody on the road?
41:03
I think so, I mean, I've never done it before.
41:05
Yeah.
41:06
I've done that before.
41:07
But I would.
41:07
I'm not opposed.
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Because I don't want anybody to get hurt.
41:09
Right.
41:10
That's, that was my thing.
41:11
And, also they're being an Stop, stop doing that.
41:16
Um, yeah, I've caught on some of that before and Brian kind of would get mad.
41:19
He's like, somebody else will call and I'm like, nope, that's actually, I can't remember what it's called, but it's some kind of theory where somebody else will do it.
41:25
So nobody does it.
41:26
Oh, you know what?
41:27
My sister and I were at a mall in Virginia beach bridesmaid dress shopping.
41:30
Yep.
41:31
And, this dude stole a lady's purse and a big guy.
41:35
I mean, he had to been like six, three.
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And.
41:38
We were standing by, like, the exit kind of, and my sister, took a step in front of him, and he looked at her like he was gonna, like, plow her over, and keep going, and so she just kind of sit back, and the lady's like, stop him, and we're like, we're, I'm five foot two, what, what am I gonna do?
41:55
I'm not going to be able to do nothing.
41:56
We did look, see what car he jumped in and gave that to the lady to let her handle whatever she needed to do with that.
42:02
But people are crazy.
42:04
People are very crazy and and even if like you would have stuck your foot out and tripped him, what are you going to do then?
42:09
I'm going to run the other way.
42:11
I mean, but what if he had a gun?
42:12
I know that's what I mean.
42:13
I'm running the other way.
42:14
Again it was a kid, that was like, right.
42:17
That's different.
42:18
Yeah.
42:18
If somebody was trying to take off with a kid, I would do anything I could to prevent that.
42:23
Absolutely.
42:24
But for the purse.
42:26
Yeah.
42:26
Nope.
42:28
Nope, nope, nope.
42:29
But Again, ignorance is bliss.
42:31
Yeah.
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And I don't know nothing.
42:33
Jackson's text me.
42:34
Let me tell you why this this dude is calling me.
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I'm obviously not home.
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I am here You Right with you.
42:41
Mm hmm.
42:42
So he's calling me because two of our dogs got out.
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What am I supposed to do?
42:47
I was like, well, okay Just drive around on the golf cart and see like there's a couple places that they get like down to the water and stuff And he was like, I don't know I don't see them.
42:56
Where else can I go?
42:56
Where else can I go?
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And he was like, I found them.
42:59
They're back at the house.
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See, that's what I'm talking about.
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When they go out and they're just like, freedom was a hundred percent.
43:06
So Louie is fine by himself.
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That's our youngest one.
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If he's out by himself, he will come back.
43:11
He knows he has not built for that life.
43:12
But Emmy, she is our girl.
43:15
That's a boxer and hound mix and she would be an outside dog.
43:20
If, I would let her about, you know, I just don't want anything to happen to her.
43:24
she stays outside a lot, but Until it's time for bed And then she wants to sleep on something soft and she likes to bury her nose under a blanket Oh and that heated blanket I was talking about she wants to lay on it with me But during the day she wants to troll the land rex just likes to stay slumped on the floor So if I stole Rex, will you turn me in?
43:46
I would just go steal a bag.
43:50
Yeah, that is actually a hundred percent what I would do because I've literally told Brian before.
43:58
Did I tell you about the Rottweiler I was?
44:00
Okay, a couple weeks ago.
44:02
So, you know, I do the dog walking and stuff, so I was taking care of a Rottweiler, and her family was gone, and she was so sweet.
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I love Rottweilers.
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You know, I like big dogs, anyway.
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And she was so, so sweet.
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And I told Brian, I was like, let me just bring her home.
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And he was like, no, she has a family.
44:19
and then they would call or text me whenever they're like, we're going to stay one more day.
44:22
We're going to stay one more day.
44:23
We're going to stay.
44:24
So they kept extending their vacation.
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And I was like, they're just not going to come back.
44:27
And we're going to have a Rottweiler.
44:30
I was like, you can't just bring the dog home.
44:32
Was it like a, a huge, huge one.
44:33
She was, she was good size.
44:36
Yeah.
44:36
I mean, being a female, she wasn't as big as, you know, a male would be, but Oh my gosh.
44:39
She was so sweet.
44:41
Yeah.
44:41
She just wanted loveys.
44:42
Mm-Hmm.
44:43
Did you see, that story, of the pet photographer that got bit by the, um, kae ca What are they?
44:51
Kane Corso?
44:51
Yeah.
44:52
Kane Corso.
44:52
No.
44:53
And so she was telling her story and.
44:56
The woman had two dogs and then she had her children with her and the first one was like super calm, chill, whatever.
45:05
The second one was younger and just wasn't trained.
45:08
Yeah.
45:08
And she said, as soon as it walked in, it locked on her and The woman was probably, you know, very petite was not able to control.
45:20
Well, I assumed she was old and frail, but she was a small lady, but luckily this pet photographer Knew how to kind of maneuver her body, but I mean she had I mean So when they were she was talking about the bite pressure or whatever she said those dogs are like a 700 whereas a pit bull is like 250 Oh my god, he said that they they can literally like bite your arm off.
45:40
Yeah They're huge.
45:44
They're beautiful dogs.
45:45
Yeah.
45:45
And they're trained.
45:46
They're right.
45:47
Wonderful.
45:47
Right.
45:48
but they can be obviously not trained properly or not trained at all and not socialized.
45:54
And that's right.
45:54
That's what the photographer said was the dog was not socialized.
45:58
Right.
45:58
My dogs aren't really trained well per se, but they're very socialized.
46:03
Like, hey, they do some naughty things.
46:05
they are not.
46:07
The prince, but, but he's older too, but they're not going to, you know, do that.
46:13
Yeah I hate that though.
46:15
She was okay.
46:16
The photographer was okay.
46:16
She was, I mean, she's very shooken up terrible.
46:20
That's your livelihood attacking you.
46:21
Yeah.
46:22
I mean, that's like some PTSD stuff with that.
46:24
I'm sure she said she she's done, you know, plenty of portraits of Rottweilers of, you know, German shepherds of pit bulls, all of them.
46:32
Do you remember Dobermans were the bad dog for a while?
46:35
A lady in our neighborhood has men pins.
46:37
Oh really?
46:37
Yeah.
46:38
I hate those dogs.
46:39
Like her dogs.
46:40
They attacked Rex's legs and I kicked one of them.
46:43
I remember you telling me about that one too long ago.
46:45
I'm like, yeah, like a year ago, maybe.
46:47
Yeah.
46:48
But yeah, so those little buttheads.
46:51
Yeah.
46:51
But again, I think, you know, it's all about how you raise your dogs.
46:54
It doesn't matter what kind of dog you have.
46:56
If you don't raise it properly, you don't train it properly.
46:58
And well, and still in the back of my mind, I have to remember They're still animals.
47:03
Yeah.
47:04
Like still got animal instincts.
47:07
They're still an animal and they're going to revert to those instincts a lot of times.
47:10
yeah.
47:10
thank God that she, this is exactly what she said is that the other dog didn't have that pack mentality.
47:14
Yeah.
47:15
And attack as well.
47:15
Both attack.
47:16
I feel so bad for that woman and she showed her bite marks and, and it was just, it was awful.
47:21
I mean, she really could have, that dog could have done some.
47:24
Major damage she said that however she was moving over and it couldn't get yeah like a whole arm lock yeah so thank goodness she knew what to do in that situation yeah that's great and that like you said the other one was strained that's petrifying yeah i don't want to think about that anymore no we can keep going dark what's wrong with us it's the time change yes we'll blame it on that yeah do you want to do you Am I the a hole?
47:48
Okay, let's do it.
47:50
I'm a 30 year old female husband, 33 accused me of murder out of the blue.
47:55
How do I salvage this?
47:56
This is long and ridiculous, sorry.
47:59
My husband Luke had a sister, Laura, 29 female.
48:02
Luke and Laura?
48:03
Right, I was thinking that too.
48:05
We were all close and saw each other 2 3 times a month along with their parents.
48:09
Almost 6 months ago, Laura fell down the stairs at their family home and died.
48:14
It was a freak accident.
48:16
There's a window on the half landing and she hit her head on the sill.
48:21
I was the last person to see her.
48:22
I was there for less than 10 minutes and she was in her pajamas making coffee.
48:27
Why is it always the stairs?
48:29
Like the staircase?
48:31
Yeah.
48:32
I didn't even stay for a drink and I struggle with how such a brief and meaningless interaction could have been her last.
48:37
She deserved so much more.
48:39
My husband and I have only been married for a year, but we've been together for four, and I've known each other for 20 plus.
48:45
When Laura's parents found her, they called my husband straight away, and we rushed over.
48:50
We faced the whole thing as a family, and the days after, Luke started quizzing me.
48:55
exactly what we talked about, what she was wearing, where we were standing, etc.
48:59
It progressed to saying I was providing conflicting information on tiny details he was deliberately misunderstanding and accusing me of withholding information because I couldn't tell him things like what pajamas she was wearing.
49:12
This escalated quickly, but lasted for less than a week as I lost my cool and made it clear that I was done answering questions.
49:19
He didn't bring it up again, and I wrote it off as a grief quirk.
49:23
His behavior was generally that of a normal grieving person.
49:26
Last Friday, he outright accused me of murdering her in front of his parents, out of the blue.
49:31
We were all stunned.
49:32
There was an inquest Which recently concluded and there was never any doubt the verdict would be accidental death.
49:39
He said it was completely obvious and he couldn't believe how no one else could see it.
49:43
He claims I went through his phone and found his messages with Laura.
49:47
I have absolutely no idea what messages he's talking about.
49:51
I've never looked at his phone.
49:52
And then I went over to confront her and things, quote, got out of hand and I pushed her downstairs.
49:57
By the end, he was shouting about going to the police and getting the inquest overturned and how I wasn't going to get away with it.
50:05
Let me be clear, Laura and I had a great relationship, we all did.
50:09
I have no idea where this has come from other than these messages I haven't seen and even then I don't think there's anything.
50:16
I could ever see on someone's phone that would drive me to murder.
50:19
It's just ridiculous.
50:21
I want to know what the message is saying.
50:22
I do too.
50:22
This is just random., he's been with his parents since this happened and will not talk to me at all.
50:27
I've had some contact with his mom, but she's not being very communicative.
50:32
The last I heard, she didn't know what messages he was referring to either.
50:37
I'm still completely stunned and I have no idea how to proceed.
50:40
I made a commitment to be there for him always and I understand the grief can manifest in strange ways, but part of me feels like my love for him died the second he called me a murderer and I don't know how we could possibly work through this.
50:53
I also really don't want to be thought of this way.
50:55
I have no idea if he said anything to people we know.
50:58
I obviously haven't.
51:00
A brain tumor or Psychotic break has crossed my mind and I suggested it to his mother and she said she'll talk to him other than the questions before He hasn't been acting odd Obviously, he's been grieving but he seemed sane and sensible other than this.
51:16
I feel like I'm going mad Does anyone have any advice at all?
51:21
The more I read about it, I was like, there's something else going on.
51:23
Well, I would like to know what the, what the messages are saying.
51:26
Because there's more to that story.
51:28
Because siblings aren't going to talk trash on you unless something's going on.
51:32
Right.
51:33
So there was something going on and what was it going on, lady?
51:37
Don't, you know, we want the tea, I mean, I don't think that you killed her.
51:40
No, I don't think so either.
51:41
I, I don't know.
51:42
I don't know you.
51:43
I'm not detail oriented.
51:44
Yeah.
51:44
So I would not know what pajamas she had on.
51:47
Like tomorrow.
51:47
If you asked me what you were wearing, I would know what to say.
51:50
Yeah.
51:50
I would be a horrible witness.
51:52
Yeah, I don't know nothing.
51:55
Yeah.
51:57
Yeah.
51:57
I remember, I remember random things, but not like, I remember this cause he looks so cute.
52:03
But, yeah, I couldn't tell you what Dylan had on when I saw him earlier no, I didn't want Jackson has on today, but yeah, something's not right there.
52:11
We're missing a big piece of that story.
52:15
Other than the fact that British because you spelled pajamas weird.
52:19
You spelled behavior weird.
52:20
And he said, mom.
52:21
Mom, and bring up the accent.
52:27
I did it.
52:27
I was, cause I was having a hard time following this way it was written.
52:31
I think he, your husband's kind of loose it and kind of the butthead in this and, unless there's something like Major that you did that like, we need to know about if you wanna call us.
52:40
Well, have you had this interview?
52:41
Yeah.
52:42
Yeah.
52:43
Oh, did you watch, speaking of interviews, the judge, Joe Brown.
52:45
Oh, oh my gosh.
52:47
All the t I told you right.
52:50
Like he was, that man's a genius.
52:54
For real, that memory.
52:56
We are a terrible witness.
52:57
He would be the go witness.
52:59
Well, I mean, he's in that industry.
53:00
So, yeah, but the dates that he could recall of things that happened or what somebody said, I was just so impressed his brain is a vault.
53:10
It was crazy.
53:13
Phenomenal interview.
53:15
I want to know everything he knows.
53:17
And I think Candace does such a good job.
53:19
Oh yeah.
53:19
Letting him get it, you know, like, yeah, get him, get everything out and flow with it.
53:24
I learned a lot.
53:26
I, what I liked about it too is he would tell you something and then he would back it up.
53:32
details to back it up, evidence to back it up.
53:34
Right, and the whole thing was crazy with, all of the people in politics being related.
53:40
Yes.
53:41
Yeah.
53:41
Yes.
53:42
And again, that's fact checkable.
53:45
It's not just, he's not just saying stuff.
53:48
It's all easily checkable.
53:50
Fascinating.
53:51
It was such a fascinating.
53:53
I want to hear more.
53:55
Might go back and listen to it because I'm sure I missed it.
53:56
Oh yeah.
53:57
Well, because like your jaw's on the floor trying to absorb something and then he drops another one.
54:01
Yeah.
54:02
That was amazing.
54:03
Yeah.
54:04
We love you.
54:04
Judge Joe Brown.
54:06
That's not married to Judge Judy.
54:08
That is not married to Judge Judy.
54:11
Fascinating.
54:11
Yeah.
54:12
Fascinating man.
54:13
I would love to have, like, sit down and I know I said last time to have an interview, but I would love to sit down and have a meal with him.
54:19
Yeah.
54:20
And just have that open dialogue.
54:22
Like over the dinner table and let him just go.
54:25
Oh, yeah, like wide open.
54:28
So there's a lot of people that I think are really cool, like, in the Bourne movies, you know, how, like, he's running from somebody and he sees the, and I'm just not this smart.
54:38
But like, and I know he was trained, and it's a movie, but like, he sees like the, exit that you're supposed to have for the building, he rips the map off the wall, and like, he knows to use that, he knows to do this, like, I wish I was that smart, like I knew.
54:51
Like MacGyver?
54:53
Yeah.
54:54
And I wish I was like Judge Joe Brown too.
54:56
That's smart.
54:57
Yeah.
54:58
With that recollection ability.
55:01
Yeah.
55:01
That I obviously don't have.
55:03
Same.
55:06
But you know what?
55:06
I swear, like once you get pregnant and you have a child, I swear that your child takes half of your brains.
55:12
Oh yeah.
55:13
I really, I really feel like I lost so much.
55:16
So much of my brain cells are gone.
55:18
And um.
55:18
It could be from my partying days as well.
55:23
Well, if, um, our other half brained people out there Uhhuh listening to this Yep.
55:29
I I really hope that this app goes good.
55:32
I I will make it work.
55:33
We always do.
55:34
Okay.
55:34
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55:35
You do the magic voodoo.
55:37
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55:46
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