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Lessons on Love with Adam Guzman-Poole · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Bridges and Beacons podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is episode one of season seven.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what's really crazy is I started talking about this the other day, and I've literally read or seen the number seven at least 10,000 times, which is crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here we are, episode one, season seven.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I am absolutely excited and honored to have my guests on today.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been looking forward to this conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Adam Guzman Pool is joining me today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Adam.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's 12 hours ahead of me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're we're good morning and good evening.
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  SPEAKER_00: And whenever you're listening to this podcast episode or catching us on YouTube, it may be good afternoon for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Adam is a holistic relationship counselor, coach, and spiritual therapist.
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  SPEAKER_00: Alongside his background in psychology, he carries nearly 20 years of apprenticeship with traditional indigenous healers, Buddhist monks, and yogis.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's the author of the Amazon bestseller Lessons on Love, a book currently being used at the University of South Florida to help students foster holistic health and compassion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beyond his work as a counselor, he's actively engaged in his community, whether mentoring young people, organizing community meditations, or supporting the local permaculture initiative in Bali, where he lives with his wife, Adriane.
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  SPEAKER_00: Adrienne, am I saying that?
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  SPEAKER_03: Andrienne.
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  SPEAKER_00: Andrien.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: I want to make sure I get that right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Andrien and their son Arjuna.
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  SPEAKER_03: Arjuna, that's the one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being here, Adam.
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  SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's a real honor, honor and privilege to be here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I was really excited to speak with you because I was saying to you before we started recording, I first heard your story on the Soul Professional podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you were interviewed by your co-hosts on that show, Camille Miller and Adam Dinkinson, very good friends of both of us, wonderful people.
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  SPEAKER_00: And your story was absolutely fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure as people were listening to your bio as I read it, it is a very diverse background that you have.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's many, many pieces to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That you've you've done so many things, you know, even before you were 30.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, you were you had this amazing worldly experience, which I think is so intriguing and interesting to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to hear the amount of compassion and the amount of energy you put into putting good out into the world, whether it's mentoring young people or you know, using your book, that excites me too.
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  SPEAKER_00: The that your your book is being used at the University of South Florida to build young people's lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, where where did this all start from you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I know that's what the listener wants to know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where did your journey begin?
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  SPEAKER_00: And and let's say where did your spiritual journey begin?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you know, we could we could look at our journeys in different ways, but I think the the spiritual lens is is a really fascinating one for you.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, so the the spiritual journey, I think I I always had this this sense of connection to the sacred and the connection to the spirit, even as a young person, like even as I was growing up, and I had this this faith that that followed me.
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  SPEAKER_04: But when I hit my teen years, I became a little bit of a wild child, you could say.
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  SPEAKER_04: She saw me at my core, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: She saw my essence, she saw my soul nature beyond, you know, the punk kid and beyond all this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_04: She saw my essence and my truth.
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  SPEAKER_04: And as she saw that, she lifted that out and she guided me and you know, took me to ceremonies and just really started like that a 20-year exploration and apprenticeship into the realm of spirit.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so that was where my spiritual journey began.
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  SPEAKER_04: And there's so I mean, a lot happens in 20 years, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: So then, you know, I met, I started meditating at 18 and you know, meeting monks and yogis, and that's that's I mean, that's another story, but but that's where it began.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of other stories in there, and I'm sure we'll we'll pop into that for sure as we continue to chat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I think that's that's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: So is it was it a a popular punk band or a punk band where you lived?
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  SPEAKER_04: I just love that that you were 12 and I was telling the the the the punk band was was Too Late the Hero.
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  SPEAKER_04: It was the name of the punk band.
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  SPEAKER_04: And they it's just a funny on the on the t-shirt, it was like Superman like holding holding like Lois Lane and he was too laced.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that was like the like it's she was like that was the the punk band.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it wasn't it wasn't famous or anything, but it was just you know, grunt, like what do you call it, you know, playing in bars and different things.
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  SPEAKER_00: So oh my gosh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I think what you said about being seen for all that you were, and at the deepest part of your core, I think when we can sit with people and we see them and and hold that space for them to feel that feeling of full acceptance and awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's something special.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I think we all know the difference between somebody who just kind of takes you at face value and somebody who really sits with you to read enough about who you are, your your soul, your soul essence.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that that to me is is so beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to have that experience at such a young age, I think obviously you can you can see from that, you know, especially given that you went into a 20-year apprenticeship, that that was such a remarkably moving moment for you.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think I'm sure, I mean, in your work as an occupation, patient therapist.
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  SPEAKER_04: I remember when we interviewed you on our podcast, you told me about, you know, some of the people that you you work with, you I'm sure you bring that out through your holding that compassionate, loving space.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I mean, it's amazing how powerful our presence is, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: Our presence can totally transform someone's life, and especially young people too.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's like a very powerful thing, and that young people are so palpable, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: And it it really one conversation that can liter literally change young person's life to be more towards their, you know, their purpose, their dharma, and what they're really seeking.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so what a gift that we have that we can give.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, just one moment of presence.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_00: I and I'm thinking as you're saying that, how often we're not present with people, you know, how easily we can slip into those habits.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, especially, you know, where I am, I'm in the US.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the the phones are everywhere with us, and it's so easy to get sucked into that void that can just hold and captivate our attention.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, people who actually stop and and have a conversation with you and give you eye contact and listen with intent, like I wonder how starving so many people are for that level of attention.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I and I it's no coincidence that we're, you know, our generation is facing like the highest rates of anxiety, depression we've ever seen before, right?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's like we're while we're seemingly connected to each other, we're actually with with technology, we're actually more disconnected than ever.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so definitely people are starving.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_04: And and the gift though is it it's it's like a little plugging in, right?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a little, like a little bit of you talked about, you said the word intention, you know, intentional moments can really make all the difference.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's a great researcher, Barbara Frederickson.
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  SPEAKER_04: She wrote an excellent book called Love 2.0.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it was all about creating micro moments of positivity with people around.
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  SPEAKER_04: And that these micro moments of positivity are of where you're generally just being with someone and offering this love, offering this connection.
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  SPEAKER_04: And you know, maybe you see their shoes, and I really like your shoes.
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  SPEAKER_04: And you're creating this moment between two people, and it creates this like positive resonance that like actually impacts the entire field around you and and really does wonders for your personal well-being as well as you know the person that you're interacting with and engaging with.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it's even though we're starving for connection, like the food's right there, which is a gift, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's that is also so true that it it's not, it doesn't take much.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, even five minutes of just like intentional, like intentionally stopping to be with someone, you can we can make all the difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does take some work.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: It does take some work, you know, and I think that's that's the hard part.
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  SPEAKER_00: That we have to pause before the compulsion takes over, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: That that's the science of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I that we're we're conditioned, we're so easily conditioned.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the conditioning that's happened is bored, can't okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm on my phone before I even like recognize that that's what I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where how did this how did this even get in my hand?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even remember picking it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just it just happened, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I mean, we can give ourselves some grace with that because I mean, if you look at your phone, there are thousands of engineers being paid very good money to keep you on it as long as possible.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, we we can give ourselves some grace, and you know, and it comes back to that intention again, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: And it's like bringing it back.
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  SPEAKER_04: And if that what is it that we really want?
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  SPEAKER_04: And you know, we want love, we want peace, we want connection, we want to be yeah, make this world a better place, and and we'll we'll we need to do it together, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you read the book Stolen Focus?
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  SPEAKER_04: No, I've but I've I've read like a note on it, like a 20-minute summary on it, but yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so I it's one of my favorite books.
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  SPEAKER_00: Recent that recent book that I've read that's nonfiction in the past few years.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the the author is a journalist.
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  SPEAKER_00: His name is Johan Hari.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, he's from England, and he he's a journalist by trade, but he approaches his books with both stories and research and interviews.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I the first time I read it, I I listened to it through Audible and he narrates his books.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know about you if you like to listen to books, but I like to listen to books, I like to read books on physical books, Kindle, but it doesn't matter.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love books, but he narrates his own books.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so to hear him tell stories, and so when he was writing Stolen Focus and he did a lot of research, he talked to a lot of people, and he compiled the main reasons, you know, why it's so hard to focus.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and his approach was very compassionate in first recognizing for himself how distracted he was.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he he opens his book talking about taking a trip with his nephew to Graceland, you know, all the way from from England to to Graceland in Memphis, Tennessee.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were, I guess they both liked Elvis, if I'm remembering the story well.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he talks about how they're walking through, they're like, they're in Graceland, and his nephew is kind of you know there with his face and his phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it forced him to recognize how often he himself was only on his phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, in addition to all the research and everything he did, he gave up his phone for a period of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: He rented a house by the ocean, I think somewhere in Rhode Island, if I remember.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he only had like a burner flip phone for like emergency use only, no computer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he basically did a digital detox to see what happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and so he he shares throughout the book his experience of being disconnected and how he sought connection in different ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I think that that is one of my favorite books to read for all those reasons that when we're talking about this difficulty with presence, and it really came down to you know, one of the things that you said that there are companies that are putting effort and energy into making them more addictive for us, whether it's the apps or it's the technology, whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he he said really the the way that we get above this is to find that presence and and to be able to really connect and to have a lot of compassion for ourselves when we get it wrong, because we're stacked up against a lot of odds.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think that's yeah, that's definitely it.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's it's we you know, we have to give ourselves that grace, you know.
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  SPEAKER_04: And and you know, we do our best and then you know, we fall, and then we do our best again and just continue to move on bit by bit.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_04: And but we keep, you know, I think it's really interesting this this connection piece, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: Because it's like, what are we actually looking for when we're going into our phone?
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  SPEAKER_04: Right?
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  SPEAKER_04: We're looking to be fed, you know, we're looking to be in some way, we're looking for something.
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  SPEAKER_04: But what is it, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: What is it that thing that we're looking for?
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, is it just that dopamine head?
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  SPEAKER_04: But what is that dopamine head giving us, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: And at the end of the day, it's connection to something else, connection, but like, and what is presence?
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  SPEAKER_04: And if we go back to that spiritual lens, right, when when we're in presence, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: If you look at Eckhart Tollies at Eckhart Tolli, you know, the presence king, he says presence is enlightenment, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: When we're in presence, we're in that spiritual domain.
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  SPEAKER_04: And that's what happens when we're with somebody and we're giving them this thing, this connection.
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  SPEAKER_04: We're connecting them to source, we're connecting them to sacred, and we're giving what our souls are really yearning for.
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  SPEAKER_04: And what in this in this human journey and the spiritual experience, where that's where we're going, that's what we want.
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  SPEAKER_04: And there are these many, what do they call it, like counterfeit highs for what what it what it actually is, you know?
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  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's your phone, maybe it's food, maybe it's you know, work, which I can get into sometimes of the doing nature.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think many, many folks in the west can can relate, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: We're we're but we're seeking some sort of security in something external.
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  SPEAKER_04: But when we connect to presence, when we connect to the sacred, we're finding a security in something that's bigger than ourselves, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think so often that's what it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's that like that hunger for something, but it's not satiating, it's just enough to kind of keep you on the line, right?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: You eat the three chocolate chip cookies, and you're like, okay, that was something, but I still feel like I need something else.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Something's missing, something I'm hungry for.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love that you brought up Eckertolle.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also adore Eckhart Tole.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: That was like one of my first deep dives into his spiritual journey books when he was talking about the power of now.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it was tremendously healing for me reading that and learning about the not-self and the self and being the watcher.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember that really, that really hit me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you can stop for a moment and remember, I'm the observer.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not the me is what it is just continuous and ongoing and perfect in form.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm watching that, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm not, I'm not my emotions, I'm not my behaviors, I'm not describing it well.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you have a better description of the thing.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, no, you're just no, you're describing it perfectly.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_04: You're describing it perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I think I had never I had never recognized that I was separate from my thoughts until I I read and actually listened to Ecartola.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see, this this theme, I love to hear authors read their books, but he he really turned me on to that, and that there was no, there was just peace and and status quo in the present.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there wasn't pain, there wasn't ecstasy, there was just the now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember he talked about looking at trees and not categorizing them like that's a pretty tree, that's not a pretty tree, but just like taking in the trees and just breathing and being with the trees.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I can do that, there is nothing else that is more grounding to be able to just be and breathe and not have to make meaning of things.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's I mean, I think when we're in that space, it's it's just peace, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: It's like it's like they're beyond the narrator that's always you know telling the story.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I mean it it has its place.
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  SPEAKER_04: Don't get me wrong, it has its place, but when we when we realize when we start to identify with it, that's when it we can get into some trouble, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: Because we have a mind, it's a beautiful tool, but how often do we hurt ourselves with our own mind?
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  SPEAKER_04: We hurt ourselves with our thoughts, we hurt ourselves with self-criticism of not good enough.
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  SPEAKER_04: And but who's saying that, right?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's like who is who's saying not good enough, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: A lot of times these are just old beliefs that we've inherited through our upbringing.
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  SPEAKER_04: There was a moment in childhood when you know someone did something and we we take it on, like in Sanskrit, they call these samskaras.
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  SPEAKER_04: Eckartoli calls it the pain body, right?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: And we we this is the pain body that just we we kind of what what what's the word I'm looking for?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: It just becomes part of us, right?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_04: And it just until the moment is right and then it comes up, and then we're walking through life with these pain bodies, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: But the thing is, is I think at the end of the day, we are the mountains and our thoughts are just clouds passing through the sky, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: And but we are this like unshakable mountain.
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  SPEAKER_04: And when we can identify with that, what a gift.
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  SPEAKER_04: Because like, I mean, neuroscience, as good as it can, like they can like pinpoint where an emotion is coming from, they can pinpoint all these different things, but they cannot find consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like, where is consciousness?
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_04: Where is the observer?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_04: They don't know, right?
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: Like it's like there is something beyond, beyond that that we we can't truly touch.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_04: And that's our soul essence, and that's who we truly are.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the gift is when we can, you know, remember who we really are.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's we're free, right?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_04: You talked about that peace.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: It's like there's we're free.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_04: There's nothing, nothing can harm us.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_04: Like, because I mean, what is there to touch?
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: What is there to hurt or harm when you are an unshakable, unbreakable soul, right?
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I love the metaphor of the mountain and the clouds.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: That I've often thought of it sort of like, you know, when I sit down to meditate, I have a very busy brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the thoughts don't stop.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Typically, I'll just picture a stream and I just picture the thoughts just floating downstream.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's okay, they can they can be there, they can float in the stream.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have to pick them up, I don't have to examine them, I can just let them be.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Or I like to envision my chatty self as like actually like a little five-year-old, me, who's just like has lots and lots to say.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I just kind of invite her to come sit in my lap.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, you you wouldn't tell a five-year-old you can't talk anymore.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's meditation, you have to stop.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: You just kind of let her sit there and talk, and you you hold her, you hold space for her and you love her, and you recognize she's probably gonna whisper, she's probably gonna say something, she's gonna ask you a question.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, that what a kind, compassionate approach.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_04: I love it.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's that's amazing.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's so beautiful.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_04: And because I think sometimes, yeah, we expect the mind, the mind to not do what the mind does.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_04: Like the mind is is great at thinking, and it's like the but the trick is just to learn how to use it, right?
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: And a lot of times it's what what is the saying?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's like the the mind is a great servant, but a terrible master, right?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_04: So you know, and so we can use it to serve us and to support us and support the goals that want to come through our lives, whatever wants to like what our souls are seeking to emerge, you know, are are and and at the same time, but but sometimes we we let it run us, right?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_04: And so I mean, the gift of meditation, right, is that it helps us have that distance that I am not the thoughts, I am not, you know, these conditions, these habits, and within that spaciousness, we can make better choices, right?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: I wish it was taught when we're younger, that idea of of stillness and breathing.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, maybe it wasn't taught when I was young.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's taught a little bit more today, but I think even in saying I think I'm more of a feeler than a thinker, better at the feeling than the thinking, but that prevalence of your what you think and how you think and using your brain power has become such a higher value.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, especially for children who are going through traditional schooling, the focus is what you know and what you learn and what you can show you know, and how you can excel, and it leaves out a lot of intelligence.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and we have not just you know us thinking and feeling that, but also a lot of research to say that that it's a very narrow-minded way of appreciating intelligence.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Intelligence, there's so many different types of intelligence, and I believe we we haven't even scratched the surface.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: When I think about you know, things like the practice of heart math and and you know, meditating from your heart, or people who just intuitively know things, that's an intelligence, you know, and not from like the the the way they're gonna say it's like a woo-woo, like, oh, you know what's gonna happen, not nostradamus, but like people just have a knowing and have a have a sense of things, that's an intelligence.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: But we don't necessarily have a way of measuring, and I think that's where it gets a little bit tricky for people.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: If we can't measure and we can't tell you where you size up against other people, who's better at the intuition than the other one?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that sounds so silly, right?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's such a personalized thing.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just thinking about that.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking about how much intelligence we've overlooked in people and how much contribution we've lost from people because we haven't been able to just, like you said, be present with them and appreciate who they are.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if somebody had sat with you and said, you know, instead of seeing your soul being like, you know what, you are destined for modeling.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: You should absolutely go into modeling, like this is the thing for you, you know, rather than being present and allowing you to find that presence with yourself.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I yeah, you said such a a powerful phrase, and it's like, how much have we lost because of this, right?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_04: Because we aren't fully present.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_04: We aren't we're we're our culture and our society likes to put things in boxes, right?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_04: And to categorize and cut things out, and and there's a there's so much lost in in like that, in that way of looking, like you said, all this intelligence, intuitive intelligence, intuitive gifts.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_04: But the gift, I think, is is especially with our our growing awareness with certain things, like with things like heart math, right?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_04: This is like now we're like being able to research like scientifically research like how your heart literally has an impact on the people around you.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_04: And there like there's research on emotional contagion, that you, your, your presence, your heart, your your beingness can transform the room around you.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_04: It was Tidnat Han, who was this wise Buddhist monk, and he he said that you know he was doing these refugee trips with from Vietnam and taking people on the boat.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_04: And he he noticed this thing that he said that even if there were stormy seas, if there was just one person on the boat that was calm and kept that presence, it could make the entire boat calm.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like one person, one person, their their presence, their being in the moment literally can transform the world around them.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_04: And like, how awesome is that?
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_04: Because that just shows like how much power we have.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_04: And now there's research showing, like, hey, this is actually true, you know, like it's like something ancient wisdom has known for you know thousands of years, and now we're starting to touch.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_04: So while we that while there has been so much lost, there's sort of this reawakening, like there's this new paradigm shift that we're kind of moving to this new age of awareness where things like meditation are being taught in school nowadays, right?
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_04: Which is like it's part of the curriculum in some places, not everywhere, but in many places it's actually becoming more normal.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_04: Like even meditation that we're talking about it, like it's like very normal for meditation to be in a corporate boardroom, right?
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_04: But before, like, I mean, even like 20 years ago, you'd be like probably be a quack job.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_04: Like you're like the meditating guy over there.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_04: So, but now like all the research is pointing to the amazing benefits and you know, the reduction of the stress, the improve of focus, all these, you know, things we could go on.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_04: But all this is to say there is it is a hopeful time to be alive.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like, as much as there is like a dark inness that it seems like, oh my gosh, at the exact same time, there is this bright light awakening, right?
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_04: Which is like it's sort of the there's these polar opposites happening at the exact same time to meet each other.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_04: So what a gift, right?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you're never you're never put in a situation without the the resources to handle it, right?
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, agreed.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's so much light.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think what I see is the dark is trying to rally and fight.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: And the more you see it fighting, it's it's I think the term is extinction burst.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's like that feeling of like, oh man, I'm about to be completely taken over.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: I have to fight a little bit harder to try and stay, but I just don't think it can.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't I don't think I don't see how that's possible when you know we have the the joy and the honor of being connected with so many people who are seeding light in the world every day all the time.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's just bigger and brighter.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I think what you said about one calm person in a storm can impact everyone.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: It made me think about one person impacted by your presence that can have a huge ribble effect, and you don't know, it's not measurable because it's like the butterfly effect.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know, you just don't know how far that wave is going to go.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think that is a lot of the antidote to people feeling disillusioned, people feeling unsatiated, not enough likes, not enough, you know.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody shared my post.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm not in the top 1% of podcasts.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: I decided that before people started to say that.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a trendsetter in that way because I didn't set out to do a podcast to be really popular as a podcaster.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I really don't want people to listen to my podcasts because it's popular.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: I want people to listen because the people I'm interviewing have tremendous stories and they're leaders, they're beacons, they're bridges.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: They are seeding the light in the world, they're raising humanity, and they are are already making a difference.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: They've already made the world a better place.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: So when we know that, it doesn't take a million followers to make a difference.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: We only have to engage with one person.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: And in order to do that, to have full presence, we have to get out of our own way, right?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we have to be willing to be in a vulnerable space if we're if we're sharing how we feel or we're telling someone genuinely what we see.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: We have to be prepared.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: That maybe what if they don't receive it well?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: What if you had been like, you can't tell me who I am?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Who do you think you are?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you didn't, obviously, but that's a possibility.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: There's a possibility of us getting rejected.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: And for some of us, that's a really hard place to be.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: And we've had to do a lot of healing to be able to be okay with that.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of it comes with age, I'll tell you that.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that that's a big piece of it.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: That we have to we have to do the work.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not all hard work, it's not all painful, it's not all, you know, tears.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: Some of it is great and exciting and fun.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: But if we don't have the self-awareness and this the strength and courage to be brave, to put ourselves out there, then we can't make a difference.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: So, what makes you feel brave?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: How how what makes you feel comfortable and able to share?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, you've you've written books, you're teaching, you're speaking your truth.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: Just in every breath you're taking and and time you're spending with people, your truth is so evident on your face and in your demeanor and how you interact with people.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: How how do you get to that place?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_04: Beautiful question.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_04: And I think I feel I am.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_04: I think, and I feel it, it it does, it does come back to what we've been talking about earlier, and and it's about when we can connect to our soul essence.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_04: And I'll I'll tell a story, and this is this is a helpful story that I I come back to again and again and again.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_04: It helps me be brave.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's the same story that Mahatma Gandhi would go to again and again in times of crisis, and it helped him be brave, and it it's a it's a beautiful instruction manual.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_04: It comes from the Bhagavad Gita, which is the story of this is the story of a civil war, a story between light and darkness.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_04: And there is a warring army against each other.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_04: And the night before the battle, the prince Arjuna, which my son's name is named after, he is go, he he asks his chariot driver, he says, Can you take me to the battlefield?
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: I just want to see what I'm up against, and you know, up against in the next day.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_04: And his chariot driver says, Yeah, sure, let's go.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_04: And they go and they drive up and they're on this hill, and he could see on one side there's his army, and on the other side, there's another army, and it's like 10 times bigger than his own army.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_04: And as he's looking at this moment, and he's looking at what he has to face, what he has to do, the truth that he has to follow through with, he does what most every one of us does in this moment.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_04: He tries to get out of it.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_04: He says, No, no, no, no, killing is wrong.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_04: I should probably just go and meditate in a mountain, like, nah, that's not a good thing to do.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_04: And he's starting to like basically his mind becomes his master and is starting to come up and swirl around and all these ideas.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_04: What no, no, no, no, no.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_04: And he's like talking him out in circles.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_04: And in this moment, he finally just like gets so overwhelmed, and then he goes on his knees and he turns to his chariot driver.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_04: And he says, Chariot, you know, and his chariot driver is Krishna, which is the manifestation of the divine, God in human form, you could say.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_04: And he says, What should I do?
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_04: And he gives him like that, then in that moment, he gives him this the advice of like what like how to face the battle of life.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_04: And they they goes on for 18 chapters.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm gonna share two two important points that are helpful in facing, you know, facing our own our own challenges.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_04: And the first one is turning to the wisdom within, right?
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_04: Because Krishna, if you look at we may be familiar, or our listeners may be familiar with the chakras.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_04: We have seven chakras, seven, just like seven seasons.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_04: And so Arjuna is symbolic of the third chakra, the will center, the center of will.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_04: Krishna is symbolic of this third eye, the chakra of intuition.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_04: So him looking up is actually like it's metaphoric, like it's an allegory of like turning to our inner wisdom.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_04: So we all have our inner Arjuna, but we also all have an inner Krishna, an inner divinity that knows that is that it's this higher wisdom.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_04: So it's turning to that wisdom, you know, turning to that sacred energy, which can carry us through the battles of life, which can carry us through the challenges we have to face.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_04: And it is spirit that will lift us.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_04: Because, you know, it's really interesting.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_04: Arjuna is like the most decorated warrior.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_04: Like he like he is all around success.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_04: Like if we look on the material world, like what we would classify as success, he would be that, like the epitome of it.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yet, despite that, he still was brought down to his knees because there was a challenge bigger than him, right?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: So, no matter how strong, how whatever we think we are, there's going to be a moment that we need something.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_04: And it's that spiritual wisdom, that higher energy that we need to turn to that will help raise us above.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what you know, like this was the same manual that that that Gandhi used, right, to like face the challenges that he had to face.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_04: And the same is true with us.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_04: And the second piece of wisdom that it is to the which is the very first thing that Krishna said to Arjuna.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: And it was, he said, get up and fight again.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_04: That's what he said.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_04: He told him to get up and fight, and he said, fire cannot burn you, water cannot drown you, air cannot blow you away.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_04: You are the soul, the untouchable soul, right?
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_04: Like if you die, you will be, you know, like the body is not who you are, right?
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_04: And like that's so often we're clinging to this ego, right?
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_04: Where our ego is clinging to what we think we are, and that's what keeps us small.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_04: It keeps us from putting ourselves out there, right?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_04: Because like they might hurt my ego, but it's like my soul can never be hurt.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_04: And he says, remember who you are.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_04: That's the first thing he said, remember who you are.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_04: You are the soul.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: So when we can identify with the mountain, the soul, whatever we want to call it, that's our essence, the untouchable, unshakable essence.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_04: That is what will help us face the challenges, face the wars, face the battles, face the beauty, you know, that that is called upon us.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_04: And so that is something that I come back to again and again to give me courage.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_04: It's the something I tell my clients, you know, I remind remembering, right?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's amazing when we can, you know, we we've forgotten, right?
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_04: We we've, you know, for for I mean lifetimes sometimes we have forgotten if you subscribe to that, but that we've forgotten who we truly are.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_04: And but when we remember that, that identity is, you know, this is also research based, right?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_04: So one of the quickest ways to change your habits, to change your actions, is to change your identity, right?
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_04: So when we can identify with the soul.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_04: Then we're going to be taking actions in alignment with our soul nature.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: Changing how we're identifying.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: So if we're identifying with our ego and our mind, then shifting our identification to our soul and living from our soul essence is a very different.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very different move.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's timeless.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: There's no pressure.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I I love this.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: I just have to geek out for a minute.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know how much I love human designs.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Please, please geek away.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just you're you are a splenic projector.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're a three-five, and you have split definition.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I just I had some fun taking a look at your design.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: So split definition means that the centers in your in your body graph chart, human design splits out two of the seven chakras, so they have nine.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: So the centers that are defined are things that are typically like consistent energy for you.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: So you've got definition in your your ajna, your throat, your g center, which is sort of your your sense of direction, sense of self, and they're all connected.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Then you have definition in your spleen and in your root.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so your root is your sense of timing, and your spleen is your intuition.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: So your intuition and divine timing are like really easily connecting with each other.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: But then you also have this side of you who knows who you are, who knows where you're going.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's very consistent and reliable for you.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's connected to your voice and connected to your thinking.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: So those three are playing off of each other.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so I always find that interesting.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I always ask people because I have I have single definitions.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: So all of my defined centers are connected with each other.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: But when people have a split definition, oftentimes it might take a little bit more time for the energy to all kind of work together.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: And now in your chart, you only have you have a you have the 20 gate in your throat, which is reaching out to the 57 in the spleen, which is your 57 is not defined.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: So when you get around or something's happening in the transits that's activating that 57, I would wonder if you would feel more of that, like everything firing on all cylinders kind of energy.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it makes sense to me.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: You have a lot of definition in your root, and being in your presence feels very grounded and feels very connected and unhurried and unrushed.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas I know I have an open route.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I love people with a defined root because it helps me out.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: You do not have to find, is my nine, which is my conscious son.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that tends to be like one of the strongest gates in your design.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: And nine is the gate of focus.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_00: But when I don't have someone with the 52, my gate of focus might be unresourceful and I don't know what to focus on.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: So when I get into stillness with someone who has the 52, which is amazing that you have the 52 and meditation and stillness is like part of your core essence.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: When I when I connect with someone, so just as when you have somebody who has a 57 in their chart, you might feel that full connection, I feel very centered and grounded, and it's much easier for me to focus, which is just a reminder that even though our charts have what they have, if we're if we're looking through the lens of human design, because there's many ways that we can look at our human existence, right?
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it's astrology, you know, tarot, we can look at Iching.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: There's just many, many ways to look at it.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: We need each other, we need the interconnectedness because we only have a piece of the puzzle.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: We we have the whole chart, it's just some things are more consistent energy.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: And when we bring other elements in, especially other people, it can have a really positive influence on our chart.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_00: Or, like you said, you're someone who doesn't have definition in your emotional solar plexus, which doesn't mean that you're an unloving and unfeeling person.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: It just means you don't have definition there.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: But somebody who has a lot of emotions could feel overwhelming for you, unless you're very grounded and you don't allow that to impact you.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, you're the mountain and that's just clouds.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: But the reason I say that is because human design is not prescriptive.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's not to say, this is who you are, this is who you should be.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just say, here's here's what you came in with into this lifetime, and you get to decide and play with what lays on top of that, what conditioning, and celebrate how unique it is.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, that's my favorite thing because when I talk with someone like you and I look at your design, I feel you in your design.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: You I see it.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're all pieces of the puzzle.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: And no design is the same.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: Eight billion people, eight billion different designs.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_00: Even if somebody had some of the same things, it's not really the same because the impact of their environment, their family, you know, different experiences in life are going to play into that, could create conditioning or not.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_00: Or not.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I love to see that, and I love to see the harmony in people's designs.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a lot of fun for me.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I I appreciate so much how easily most of the projectors that I know bring out their wisdom when they're invited to do so.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like this episode was one of those where your wisdom comes out of you effortlessly and with so much compassion and intention to bring good into the world.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just so appreciative of you.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I just know that anyone who listens or checks it out on YouTube is going to feel your soul come through.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: I really think that does.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a very special quality.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's also contagious in the best possible way.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_04: What a joy.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_04: Let's bring our soul to the world because that's what we need more than ever.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_04: And I I so appreciate, I mean, your your medicine.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_04: And I love this.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_04: I love, I love what you said about the human design, right?
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like we need each other.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_04: And I think at the at the end of the day, like what a beautiful reminder, right?
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_04: We we live in this world that's so disconnected.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_04: We've started with disconnection, right?
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_04: And again, we're coming back to connection, and it's like because we have each other, we can do great things, right?
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: And so, I mean, what a gift.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_04: We we let's get off of our phones and get out and connect with each other so that we can make you know this world a better place.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_04: One person, one moment, one action at a time.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I just want to give you a minute before we close out.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: How can people connect with you?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you have coming up that people might be interested in participating in?
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, for sure.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm happy to share.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_04: I think the best way to connect with me is well, the book that I that I is at the University of South Florida and is really touching a lot of people.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_04: I want to give it to your listeners as a gift so you can find that at lessonsonlove.org forward slash gift.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_04: That's lessonsonlove.org forward slash gift.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_04: And the full book is yours.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, happy to share that.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_04: What am I doing in the next few weeks?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_04: My wife and I are going to be launching a program.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_04: We work with couples, we help couples create more peace for me in their relationships.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_04: So that's sacred relationship mastery.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_04: So you can find that, all that stuff.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_04: And if you want to meditate, you can also find we do global meditations as well.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, you can find me once if you get the book, you'll you can find all the stuff from there.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, that's amazing.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for kicking off this season, for being such an inspiration.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like when I spend time with you, it's such a reminder to sit in your soul, to be in there.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it is really pretty effortless.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_00: And and nobody like a projector can teach us how to use our energy wisely.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I want to thank you, listener or viewer, for hanging with us to the end of the podcast.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: I would ask that you like, subscribe, share, pass this on to someone, listen with them, and pause in between and see if you have anything that pops up from our conversation that we've had today.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: Be sure to take advantage of Adam's very generous offer.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: I will make sure I put that link in the show notes so you can go get the full book.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: As you can tell, just spending this short amount of time with Adam, he definitely has a lot of wisdom to share about love and follow his journey.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you again.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_00: And Adam, any last words of wisdom for the listener before we close?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_04: I I mean, just what I it's just coming.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_04: It's just we've already said it before, but just remember who you are, right?
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_04: You have a beautiful light to share.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_04: The world needs it more than ever.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_04: We are all Arjuna on the battlefield, you know, and the doubt is a normal part of the journey.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_04: If you're, you know, Arjuna had doubts, right?
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_04: And so if you're doubting, it's not a sign to turn away, right?
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_04: Turn within, get that strength, and you know, bring your soul to the to the field and let's be that light.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I love this.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Adam, again, and thank you, everyone.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll see you next time on the podcast.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: Bye for now.