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EDP51: European Indoor Tour & Burj2Burj Results / Seville Marathon, Sound Invite & Barcelona Half Preview · Easy Double podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to the Easy Double Podcast episode 51.
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  I'm joined by the two people I'm always joined by.
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  First of all is the fella who I share a birthday with, and we
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  both had that birthday last week.
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  Dean Menzies, how are you doing? Doing well mate, Only a couple
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  of years between us, give or take.
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  It was good. Yeah, we weren't embarrassed
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  either. Others and reveal any ages.
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  But yeah, 4th of Feb sacred day in the easy double world Owen.
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  You know, missing out mates. I know I was very jealous I
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  didn't get the invite to the party I would have flew across,
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  but the cake looks good. Yeah, well, as it plays out, I
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  didn't know I got the invite to the party either.
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  It was a bit of an surprise throw together thing from from
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  Becky. Nice.
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  And yes, somehow Gummy Bear and the Easy Double logo made it
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  made it onto the cake. The priorities in your life.
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  That's it, the Three pillars, Liverpool FC, Gummy Bear and
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  Easy Double Pod. And in in speaking to Dean the
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  other day, we did get some interesting birthday presents
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  which might be fun to reveal to you.
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  So I'll let Dean go first. The you let the snake out of the
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  bag out of the bag. I met we may be getting our
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  first pet Owen. Oh wow.
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  Yeah, and I'm house and I are allergic to animal hair, albeit
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  that I did grow up around all sorts of animals, but I'm also
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  familiar with the work required to look after them.
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  So we got a fairly low maintenance option.
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  So we got. It's referred to a.
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  A Stimson's Python is is. He's on its way.
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  I was expecting a freaking goldfish or something.
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  Similar. Just a little bit more, really.
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  Why a snake? Why not?
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  It's yeah, very. There's enough of them in
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  Australia though. Yeah.
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  You gotta say it's a picture. Is he a big guy?
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  Well, not yet. He's just been.
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  Hatched. Is it a?
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  Clutch. Clutch of snakes, yeah.
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  That's. Cute.
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  What are you going to call them? Oh, that's right.
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  Yeah, I think the pythons don't get very big.
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  This one only gets about a meter long.
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  Only a meter long. Where is he going to go?
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  And again. Just run around the house and
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  slide it out. There.
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  I've been looking into how you because apparently occasionally
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  they get out of their cages and So what you do is you put like
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  powder, like talcum powder along the floor to find if they've
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  gone in or out of a room because obviously that's my.
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  God, yeah. So yeah.
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  Poisonous though, are they? Nah, no, they just strangle.
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  Yeah, I think that returned I'd get a goldfish safer.
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  Get Gummy bear would be in trouble, but the rest of us
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  would be right. Yeah, you can't bring it round
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  to mine. It might work as you know, like
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  them Norma tech boots, but they like compress your legs.
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  Don't. You could just get him to wrap
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  himself around your legs. He could work into the regime.
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  Well, I've already got the boots, so this is probably the
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  next edition. And well, I asked him as well,
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  what, what would the name be? Owens.
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  And maybe we could think about like the most snakiest person
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  I'm running, but we'll have that conversation offline.
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  And my present was also quite random.
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  Becky got me. I don't know what she's trying
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  to say to me. Tickets to go and do cage diving
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  with the great white sharks. Oh wow man that is scary.
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  You see videos of damn sharks getting in.
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  Do you? Yeah.
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  Should. Just on whale shark diver or
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  something like that. They only eat by accident.
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  Yeah, not enough adrenaline involved in that one, I don't
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  think. When is?
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  This. Haven't booked it in yet.
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  I've been on their website. It's, it's quite interesting to
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  be fair if you're a weirdo and like data because they're not
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  there all year round. So obviously like it's, it's in
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  the sticks really. It's in SA, it's about 7 hour
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  drive from Adelaide. So it's a bit of a track to get
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  to will take 5 or 6 days worth of like annual leave and
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  whatever to do it. So obviously you want to like
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  pick the most ideal time to make sure you see them.
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  And through the charters that they've done since 2011, they
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  record how many sharks they see on each like Venture House.
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  So I was trying to like do some analysis and figure out when's
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  the best months. And it's weird because some,
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  some months, obviously seasonality plays into it, but
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  also they follow like the, the seals.
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  So like whenever the seals arrive, the sharks arrive, but
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  the seals don't arrive at the same time every year.
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  So, and they live, they update live every single day if they
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  seen any sharks. So I've been being being aware
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  though and tracking that. That's exciting, though.
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  You Have you ever done a skydive?
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  No, I don't know why that I'd be more scared of that than doing
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  the shark thing. Man, are you serious?
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  There's really nothing between you and the church.
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  I don't even like taking off in a plane really.
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  Oh, really? Yeah, I'm palms get sweaty.
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  Yeah. Ever since we started writing
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  and just, we're risk takers on snakes in the house.
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  Use of change. Use of change.
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  Sharks in the ocean. Oh.
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  Right on to on to subject then. Big episode.
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  Lots of European indoor meets going off all around the
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  continent. Lots of drama regarding the
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  potential half marathon world record that eventually reached a
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  decision on ratification, Jacobing a Britain sharing some
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  injury news which is hopefully positive, and then a bit of
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  chaos going on in the Winter Olympics.
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  I know it's not running related, but it was doing the rounds on
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  all the socials. We'll have training weeks,
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  YouTube Diaries and everything else in between.
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  Before we get into that though, you would have seen on our
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  Instagram Easy Double Pods that we're doing a giveaway for our
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  50th episode slash 1st birthday episode.
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  So BIX have kindly produced these Arrow Racing singlets for
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  us, which are made out of ridiculously lightweight
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  material which could be likened to another European running
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  brand. Very accessible.
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  Nice price, nice fest. Yeah, these are unreleased, so
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  we're going to be given away. At first it was one of these to
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  1 winner with 10 BIX gels, but given the amount of people
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  who've entered the competition, we feel that it's justified to
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  up the amount of winners. So we're going to be giving away
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  3 vests to three different winners and only one lucky
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  winner will win the gels because they're currently provided by
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  Bix. So all you have to do is jump on
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  the post and tag a mate who needs the gels more than you do,
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  and then we'll announce the winner next week live on the
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  recording or the winners. Exciting.
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  Hi, I've seen pictures of the singlet.
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  I haven't felt 1 yet but man they look good.
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  They're on route, Owen. Yeah.
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  Thanks. The house.
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  Thank you. May it'll be a big toss up to
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  put that on or the is it the county Meath vest?
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  Well, Tara is my local club. Me doesn't have vests
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  unfortunately. But yeah, I know maybe further
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  for the nice race, but actually Valencia 10K entries open
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  tomorrow. So that might, might get a nice
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  wear out that race next year. But I'm expecting to see you
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  guys there next year. Yeah, nice.
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  Foundation and well, The thing is we obviously want to try and
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  run, you know, pay base and keep getting better and better.
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  And if we take a bit of bicarb, that might be able to bridge the
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  gap that I'll have with my fitness.
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  I'm telling ya, get on. I've started loading up on the
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  beetroot. I remember we got Josh gave us
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  beetroot shots. I read somewhere like you can
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  load up on that. So I've started taking that for
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  the race in our MA. So yeah, I'm doing everything I
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  can. Love that.
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  Well, don't be hitting panic stations when your Wii comes out
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  rather red because that's what I've done in Marigami.
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  After I downed a few, I was like, Oh my God, like I'm
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  dehydrated or whatever, I'm pissing blood.
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  I thought it was all over. But yeah, Speaking of the fly
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  carb or the bicarb, you too done a brilliant job on that
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  interview. I really enjoyed listening to
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  that. And then kudos to the lads Josh
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  and Jack for explaining it so well.
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  I think lots of people will get good value from that.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Oh.
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  I just thought that they did it. I'm speaking for both of us
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  here, but I just felt like we got a lot, We learned a lot as
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  we were. We're going, right?
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  We sort of lined up a heap of questions just to understand a
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  bit about them, the history and then the product.
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  And it felt like we were learning a lot about it.
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  And yeah, I found the chat a lot of fun.
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  Yeah, I'm the same. I feel like they actually
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  described like, what it does so well.
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  So like, if you actually do this, do you actually
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  understand, like on the scientific level, like what it
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  does? Like, it's not meant to like,
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  decrease your lactate. It just lets you like, go for
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  longer and probably will actually increase your lactate
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  for, umm, yeah. And just the work they do on
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  like a grassroot level. I felt like, yeah, they're doing
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  a good job over there. Yeah, seems very nice then.
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  Umm, I think unless you, you're trying to do it yourself in
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  terms of improve in running and realize how how little, as you
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  talk to some of the athletes, how little support there is, I
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  think they have a lot of empathy for that.
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  And so it's very nice to to see that they've now that they're
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  starting to get some things go their way financially, that
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  they're choosing to use what spare support they have to, to
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  give back in that regard to that.
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  That tier is really nice idea. Nice of you to pick up on that
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  because I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they're
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  good lads, they're good lads. Yeah, living the absolute dream,
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  packed in the day job. And they just sound the products
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  to help people run faster, like how rewarding, whether it's
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  financially beneficial or not. But I mean, sounds like they're
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  doing pretty well, so fair play to them.
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  And it was good. They didn't go down the path of
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  it. Similar path to cooking meth,
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  but they cooked up bicarb in their backyard.
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  That was in my head. Because there, there comes a
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  time where the scale of the operation just gets too big.
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  And I would love to just be in there when they're like at home
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  and they're like, shit, like we actually can't cope.
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  We need like a bigger, a bigger place to do this.
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  So yeah, no delight from. It sounds like literally that's
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  what happened, yeah. Outgrown the kitchen.
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  It's funny because it's probably genuinely like kudos to them and
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  how well they like scientifically explained that
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  that one of my mates in like the running chat at home, Ollie, He
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  sent a message before like isn't it?
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  Is it not cheating though, Like you like messing with the ions
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  and all that sort of stuff in your blood?
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  And I think it's because they give it such a good scientific
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  explanation in terms of like what's exactly happening inside
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  your body that you understand so clearly how it literally
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  elevates performance. Your go to reaction is like,
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  that must be cheating. But it's literally a byproduct
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  of food and it's not a drug. So it's the same argument with
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  like carbon plates versus non carbon plates.
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  Like it's all well within regulation and stuff, it's just
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  clearly gives you that advantage and I'm sure the distances.
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  But like, what really gets me, like if they weren't a thing
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  like more and would have such a chokehold in that area and
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  charge people outrageous prices for a product that it doesn't
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  have to cost that much. Like the boys.
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  Yeah, that's what really, really annoys me with them.
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  Like you just think more and you trust big company, but they're
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  absolutely taking people to the cleaners.
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  And so that's what I don't like about it.
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  Yeah, it's good they disrupted the disrupted it.
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  But ahead of Morton though, like bicarb was often just taken by
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  itself and was just terrible on your guts.
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  And so, you know, it's good that as a consumer like they wants to
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  that's interested in trying to improve you.
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  You know, the science has been around for a while saying it's
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  quite material, the improvement, but there's no fun way of
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  ingesting the products such that you can handle it and then get
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  the benefit. So call it that further way to
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  yeah, get it through. And I feel like it people like
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  think it's like elitist that like, oh, it's only for like the
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  best of the best. But like you can put it in terms
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  like what? How would you wear carbon shoes?
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  Like you want to give yourself the best chance to run the best
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  time, so why not take the bike out, which will actually 100%
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  benefit you? Like I don't get why you
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  wouldn't. Yeah.
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  So like we pay, what is it, 350 bucks for a brand new pair of
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  super shoes and they give you an economy saving of 4%, which
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  works out to be 1 1/2% in terms of raw time.
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  And then for 10 bucks you can buy one of these sachets and
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  take that two hours before and have the same improvement.
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  So yeah, like it's in my head. Like it's just, why not?
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  Like it's free time. Yeah.
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  So if you haven't already, jump on that was released on Saturday
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  or Sunday and let us know what your thoughts are.
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  There is actually a podcast listener code.
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  We get 0 kickback from this by the way.
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  It's just purely savings for you if you're if you're making an
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  order. Is it ED-10 for 10% off?
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  Yeah, but I think it's only on their website.
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  Direct on their website. Yeah.
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  And if you if you're not shopping on there, you can
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  access it at aid station in Australia, right?
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  So let's hear about some results.
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  Owen Right. So over the weekend there was,
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  yeah, it's safe to say there was a load of indoor meets between
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  bronze, silver, gold level, all people just trying to get
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  standards for the World Indoor Championships in Poland, which
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  are coming up at the end of March, I want to say.
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  So we'll start off on the 8th, which was yesterday, Sunday.
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  There was an indoor meet in Germany and this is a bronze
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  meet in Dortmund and they're not mentioned here was Luke McCann.
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  So this was Luke McCann's an Irish distance runner and it was
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  his first race in 500 days. So he's after coming back from a
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  massive injury and he ran the 1500 there and ran 340.85 to
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  come sixth. Now it wasn't his fastest run by
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  a long time by a long shot as well, but it's just your first
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  race in 500 days. Like kudos to him.
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  Umm, it's a big one. It probably means a lot to him.
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  Umm, but yeah, it's a good like put a line in the sand and now
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  try and try and run faster. Umm, also on the Sunday there
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  was a silver meat, silver labeled Meet in France meeting
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  Mets monso, whatever. Yeah, in there there was the
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  Aussie Adam Spencer. He ran the men's 1500 meters and
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  he came second in a time of 335.85.
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  And just for reference, this standard for the world indoors
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  is 336. So Adam Spencer just got it
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  there. So only him and Cam have it so
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  far and we don't know if Cam's going to go.
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  So apparently he's not going. I think it's said on the what's
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  the other pocket that just Let's Run podcast and they said he's
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  not running it. So apparently he's not.
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  And so yeah, that's Adam Spencer.
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  At least he's not like ticked off.
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  It's nice to have in the back pocket.
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  Yeah, I'm not that. When I was looking at the
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  qualification standards and window for this world indoors,
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  noticeably the window is rather than mine use.
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  So you've you've obviously got to run the time, but you've also
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  got to do it from the 1st of November, between the 1st of
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  November and the 8th of March, which is what only a 5 month
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  period. And that coming on the back of
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  previous World Championships in September, where you know, you
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  can kind of understand why, like people might look to not
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  prioritize these world indoors in March because they're going
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  to have wanted to take a bit of downtime after the world champs
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  if they were there. And then they obviously want to
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  like put a decent base phase in and to try and qualify for a
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  meet in March and run a fast time from November to March.
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  It means they're going to be compensating some of that base
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  and potentially writing off the latter part of this season,
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  which is like traditionally July, August, so you can see
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  some of the conflicts that they have to weigh or.
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  It sort of suits the Aussies because it's your track season
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  now, isn't it? So if you're in Australia, like
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  like you're sort of peaking right now.
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  When is the national Aussie Championships?
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  It's normally. April, yeah.
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  OK, so that's actually really awkward then for you guys.
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  If the world's is in, then American and yeah, and see some
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  Poland or something like that. I mean in some ways, but I
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  suppose if you're in shape early in our Aussie summer, then it
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  times nicely like you have, like you say Chan, like Aussies have
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  track races from the 1st of November through to the but for
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  the full qualifying period, unlike some countries, but
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  particularly if you don't have an indoor track.
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  So there is an advantage there. It's just that when do you peak?
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  Do you peak for your Aussie summer but then not be fit for
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  European summer and all that sort of stuff?
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  Yeah. So to have them.
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  Yeah, because some people will probably be having to make
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  decisions maybe between like do we target world indoors or do we
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  target, well depends if you're European or not.
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  Do we target Europeans and or COM games in like that July,
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  August period? Because it'd be hard to do them
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  all and qualify for them all. Because when you start thinking
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  about, because it's not just racing at the championship,
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  you've got obviously peak to qualify to be there.
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  So that's then like 5 or 6 different peaks across the 12
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  month window. It's it's hard to manage.
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  Yeah. At the same me in the men's 3K
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  Yan shrub, so people might be familiar with him for cross
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  country and he's super fast half marathon time.
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  I don't have marathon time as but he ran the 3K here and he
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  ran A72938 solo, which it was I watched his life.
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  It was crazy, the standard. For the world's is 733, so umm
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  yeah, to run that solo is umm is really, really good going umm
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  and then at the same meet the last race and Fem Cabal made her
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  800 meter debut and she won the race in 159 in .7.
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  So she probably ran a hard way. Umm, she ran through the 1st 200
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  meters in 2699, then her 400 meter split was 5666, uh, 600
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  meters she went through in 128. So between 400 and 600 she split
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  32 seconds and then her last 200 meters was 30 seconds, which
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  finished in 159. But yeah, for her first 800 like
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  to break 2 minutes. It's like it's a massive barrier
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  in the women 800 meters. And for her to just go out and
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  do it. She's the first Dutch woman to
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  break 2 since Stefan Hassan in 2018.
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  Umm, So yeah. And the standard for the world
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  indoor 800 in the women's is too flat.
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  So yeah, she's booked her ticket to Poland.
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  She didn't she look make 32nd or 2627 pace look incredibly slow.
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  She wasn't moving her arms at all.
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  It was crazy. She was like.
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  Yeah. She like I had the brakes on the
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  whole like look like she had the brakes on the whole race.
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  Like if that was me, she never. Got gone.
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  I'd be straight to the arms. You know, when you when you hear
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  people talk about like your limbs being like stiff being
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  good because they're like elastic and like springy, you
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  can just imagine how like fired up hairs are there because she's
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  just like boy and getting along. Isn't she like, so majestically
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  it's as bizarre? Yeah, it didn't look like,
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  because particularly I think say women's 815 hundred, like it's a
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  real like strength. You know, you need that like
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  that real strength. And then to see these like, like
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  like a sprinter move up. It was, yeah.
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  It was cool. That was actually a national
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  indoor record as well on debut for us.
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  Like it's hard because she's already like a insanely world
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  class athlete. Like moving up.
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  She's won multiple gold medals and stuff.
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  So hair standard that you compare against is like across
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  the world rather than like best in her country.
• 22:42
  But still new discipline. To then go and be the fastest
• 22:45
  woman to ever do that is pretty wild.
• 22:50
  It's just one of them. I'd say if she ran a marathon,
• 22:52
  I'd say she just smashed it out of the park as well.
• 22:54
  I think she's just one of them that to do everything she.
• 22:58
  Looks like like a little schoolgirl as well and she I
• 23:03
  don't know how old she is but she only looks like she's like
• 23:05
  16 or something the way she wears her hair and like the
• 23:08
  little plaats and stuff. She's really squeaky voice as
• 23:12
  well when she. Does yeah explain to the
• 23:18
  listeners how it sounds? It's sort of like Minnie Mouse
• 23:21
  isn't? It.
• 23:23
  Yeah. I'm not going to try.
• 23:27
  I'm sick enough. But you don't, you don't see it
• 23:30
  coming out because the interview will ask a question and then you
• 23:32
  hear like, yeah, Minnie Mouse speak back.
• 23:35
  It's like, well, shit. I think that was the same where
• 23:38
  I'm Jess Hall. I was in this question heard to
• 23:40
  sound like that either. Yeah, but that was France same
• 23:47
  day, Sunday evening, and there was another meeting in Germany.
• 23:51
  So this is Cal Rush. It's a gold meet, so just a
• 23:54
  higher level than the one that Luke McCann was in.
• 23:57
  And there was a women's 1500 meters in this which gained a
• 24:00
  bit of attention. So the race was won by George
• 24:04
  Hunter Bell from the UK. She ran 400.04, which is a world
• 24:10
  lead. Second was Birthday Halem from
• 24:13
  Ethiopia, she's always in them Diamond League races, she'd be
• 24:15
  pretty familiar with that. She ran 400.0.88.
• 24:20
  And then Terry was I get Gillima from France who ran at 4/02/12,
• 24:26
  which was a national record and not an order, not invention was
• 24:29
  at Jeremy Ricci. She came fifth in 4/03/83, which
• 24:34
  was the season's best. But yeah, Georgia Hunter Bell
• 24:37
  opening her season before coming across to to ours.
• 24:42
  What you think? Very good run I reckon 4 flats.
• 24:47
  It's hard because like Kippie a gun runs like 350 or something
• 24:52
  and this doesn't change. It's just like my if you look at
• 24:55
  hair times, then this time would look not that good.
• 24:58
  But otherwise the the rest of the women like trying to break 4
• 25:01
  minutes is like a a big massive barrier.
• 25:05
  So and the fact that she's put away Halon and that guillemots
• 25:09
  the French girls, she was flying last year I think as well season
• 25:14
  opener. So she'll definitely take that.
• 25:17
  What and what's her best event, the 1500 or the 800?
• 25:21
  I think she was traditionally that she was the 8, wasn't she?
• 25:24
  And then she started moving up to this 15 last year, given
• 25:28
  there was potential medal opportunity there.
• 25:30
  And then with the way the races were going with the the kick
• 25:34
  down finishes and stuff, she's she had that 800 meter speed so
• 25:38
  she could potentially take advantage of that during the
• 25:41
  last lap. So probably depends how the race
• 25:44
  has played out, which is our best one.
• 25:46
  But if Kippie A Gombley stretches it from the front,
• 25:49
  then she's got nothing to kick down for.
• 25:54
  Didn't she win silver in the no am I getting?
• 25:57
  I thought she was initially 15 and then she dropped down to the
• 26:00
  Ace. I thought, how was that?
• 26:03
  Was it that way around? I don't know.
• 26:05
  Yeah, because didn't she? Win.
• 26:07
  Oh yeah. Didn't she win bronze in 2024 at
• 26:10
  Tokyo? Oh, sorry, Paris in the 1500 and
• 26:14
  then in Tokyo last year when silver just kicked over the top
• 26:20
  of Keely Hodgkinson. Is that right?
• 26:23
  Am I getting that? Yeah, that's right, because the
• 26:25
  narrative was between them, two training partners, wasn't it?
• 26:28
  Yeah. But I don't know what her best
• 26:31
  event is, but maybe she's with all with Femke moving up to the
• 26:34
  8, I don't know. If someone starts blasting it
• 26:36
  out of the water, do you go back to the 15?
• 26:41
  Yeah. I mean, they're both stacked I
• 26:42
  think, to be honest. What is she running in
• 26:47
  Australia? What then she's doing that
• 26:51
  Murray plant me. So I don't know what the
• 26:53
  benchmark races though you'd think maybe it's the 1500 if
• 26:58
  they put one on. I wonder if if they're going to
• 27:03
  announce anyone else or if because like what last year was
• 27:07
  to Bogo and previous years white men and then before that even
• 27:11
  there's always been like top top stars hasn't no wonder like is
• 27:16
  Georgia Hunter Bell the the main sell this year or the holding
• 27:20
  back on someone else? She's not that big of a name,
• 27:24
  you'd have to go bigger hopefully anyway.
• 27:28
  Same. OK same me there was Emma 3K,
• 27:31
  women's 3K and this was won by Gabriela Dubo Stafford.
• 27:36
  She's Canadian. She ran 835944 seasons.
• 27:41
  Best second was at least Cranny from the US.
• 27:43
  She's now training with 11 track club with Georgia and she ran
• 27:51
  837 O 6. And then third was, you know, a
• 27:56
  Nabrett from Ethiopia who ran 838.90 and the standard for the
• 28:02
  women's 3K is 830-5835 flat. So none of them actually got the
• 28:09
  standard and also Noble mentioned in that race, fifth
• 28:13
  was Laura Moore. Laura Moore who came who ran
• 28:16
  8:40 and then in as Fitzgerald was close behind her just
• 28:21
  separated by a couple of milliseconds.
• 28:25
  In the there was a men's tree K that was won by Stefan Nelson
• 28:29
  from the from the Netherlands who ran 73848.
• 28:34
  Second was Jacob Crop from Kenya around 73864 so very close
• 28:40
  there. And actually turtles Valentin
• 28:42
  Soka around 73890. So yeah, the three of them are
• 28:46
  separated by nothing. I.
• 28:48
  Tell you what it does some rates in that that Uruguayan guy
• 28:51
  doesn't. He's on.
• 28:52
  He's on the results like every week in one form or another.
• 28:55
  Was that the where was he just, I'm trying to recall, what was
• 28:59
  he just, was it the Valencia Tenka?
• 29:01
  Where was he that we were reading him out the other day?
• 29:04
  I think he was in Boston somewhere, yeah.
• 29:07
  And he ran Valencia. He's fun, I think around the
• 29:10
  court. For me, I was at last year it
• 29:12
  was. He's he's.
• 29:14
  Now. Got.
• 29:14
  A sick deal. He's sponsored by ASIC now, so
• 29:16
  he's doing well. I think he's still in college.
• 29:18
  Is he? I wonder who his agent is.
• 29:22
  Whoever it is, they're clearly very good because the
• 29:25
  governments all the meets. Is he MTC?
• 29:31
  That might be wrong. Anyway, we can look that up.
• 29:37
  Men's 800, There was just one British guy, Ben Patterson came
• 29:41
  forward. He ran 147.64 and that Sander
• 29:49
  for that as 145. So he's just a little bit off
• 29:51
  that. And insanely there.
• 29:55
  Was a men's 1500 meters that was won by Azadeen Hobbs from
• 29:59
  France. He ran 337.36 for seasons best
• 30:04
  he's ran 327 so and yeah, a little bit off that.
• 30:08
  Second was Federico Riviera from Italy who ran 333.94 for a
• 30:13
  national record and 3rd was Jochum Vermalen from Belgium who
• 30:18
  ran 335.48. Hobbs is back.
• 30:24
  Interested to see what he does. He laid low there last year.
• 30:29
  He didn't. Really do.
• 30:29
  Well last year, did he? He won a Diamond League and then
• 30:31
  disappeared or something. Yeah, he was.
• 30:35
  One of those who peaked too early and.
• 30:38
  So that. Was they're moving hey so.
• 30:42
  Like in terms of meeting the standards they're well under.
• 30:47
  Yeah, yeah. But they're just possible like I
• 30:50
  think both of them are like both have.
• 30:53
  Been around the block about I think.
• 30:54
  Hobbs and Riviera, yeah, I don't know whether.
• 30:57
  Because. When you look at the standard
• 31:00
  particularly, I can't remember what the women's was, but for
• 31:02
  the men, the 1500 meter standard for Tokyo in September, it was
• 31:06
  331 flat, was it? And now for these world indoors,
• 31:10
  it's 336 flat. So have they softened it because
• 31:16
  they know not as many people are going to be going for it,
• 31:18
  therefore the caliber of athlete might be like not as fast?
• 31:21
  Or is it because the the races indoors aren't as fast?
• 31:26
  Or a bit of both? I think I've heard indoor is
• 31:31
  harder than outdoor. So maybe because it's harder
• 31:35
  they've lessened the standard? Because I heard the banks are
• 31:38
  hard or there's more bands so it slows, yeah, or something like
• 31:42
  that. So I heard indoor is actually
• 31:44
  slower apparently, except for Boston.
• 31:47
  Boston's The Anomaly. You'll die on.
• 31:50
  That hill, Yeah, Boston's cheat code.
• 31:54
  Until he runs on it. And then there was one more
• 32:02
  indoor meet which was on the Friday.
• 32:05
  So this was in Madrid and UMM, this had a few big names in it.
• 32:08
  So there was a men's 1000 meter world record attempt, UMM
• 32:13
  Mohammed Atui from the OEC, from Europe.
• 32:17
  He was going for UMM and he ended up running at 21452, which
• 32:22
  UMM was a European record, not a world record.
• 32:25
  The world record is 2/11/96 by this Kenyan Noah in Gay who ran
• 32:31
  in September 1999. Second was Marino Garcia from
• 32:36
  Spain here on 2/16 and 3rd was Adrian by Adrian Ben who ran 216
• 32:41
  as well. Fourth was Alex Bottle.
• 32:43
  I've never heard of him before but around 2:17 which is pretty
• 32:45
  fast. The women's 15. 100 that was won
• 32:53
  by Burke Halem, and from Ethiopia she ran for she ran.
• 33:00
  Oh so OK, so she ran on the Friday.
• 33:01
  And then doubled up on the Sunday she.
• 33:06
  Berkeley, Halem. She ran four O 2 and Nadia.
• 33:09
  About a claddy. Run that race as well.
• 33:11
  She got APB of four O 3 which got her second and then third
• 33:15
  was Sharon Boraha from Ethiopia. She ran four O 4 same me there
• 33:21
  was the men's 3K and won by she can say.
• 33:27
  On batter. Classy there because she's been
• 33:29
  competitive in the five and 10,000 meters previously, hasn't
• 33:33
  she? And she seems to be one of them
• 33:36
  who like likes the hard grindy races.
• 33:40
  Like if the pace is hot, she just gets on it and and hangs
• 33:43
  on. So to see her running rather
• 33:46
  bloody quick for a 5010 thousand girl over 1500 meters is quite
• 33:52
  exciting. I mean, and I'm not sure you
• 33:55
  you're quite into it because there's some skepticism from you
• 33:59
  on this one. But she yeah, maybe she's
• 34:03
  looking to fix one of those attributes and see if she can
• 34:07
  close in a fast race. Yeah.
• 34:10
  I just know her. Father, it's.
• 34:11
  Actually like proving like her father got caught.
• 34:14
  And so yeah, that's where my sex skepticism comes from.
• 34:19
  But she was pushing the pace in this one as well.
• 34:20
  Like she went around Halem with like a couple laps to go and she
• 34:24
  was pushing that. But then Halem, I think but 1:50
• 34:26
  to go and Halem got her umm. But yeah, like savage range,
• 34:31
  like four or three for a girl does the 10K yeah, it's pretty
• 34:36
  good going. And the men's 3K Ryan's die one
• 34:41
  this sheep. Sheep day, Sheet day.
• 34:45
  From South Africa he ran 73911 and second was Valentin Soka
• 34:51
  from Uruguay who ran 739 and third was Gabrinette well a from
• 34:56
  Ethiopia who ran 73998 so very close at the top.
• 35:00
  I don't this is Osiris ways I should have put the Friday 1st
• 35:03
  but whatever your man so get doubled up later on the day.
• 35:08
  Adam Spencer ran this race. He came 10th and 7:59.
• 35:13
  So he ran this race in Madrid on the Friday and then he backs up
• 35:19
  on the Sunday to get the standard.
• 35:20
  So say that's a box ticked for him and.
• 35:25
  That's all the. Indoor races for the weekend and
• 35:28
  there was a cross country race in London called the London
• 35:31
  Cross Challenge. And this just came to my
• 35:34
  attention because Hugo Milner, who is like he's a triathlete,
• 35:37
  but he does, he ran European cross there two years ago and he
• 35:41
  like was up at the front with Jacob and all that sort of
• 35:43
  stuff. So he won this in 32 minutes, 16
• 35:46
  seconds. Second was Richard Slade in 3239
• 35:49
  and third was James Kingston, which is another pretty big name
• 35:53
  in UK running the things young lad, he ran 3245 and the women's
• 35:57
  side, Eleanor Curran won in 2950.
• 36:01
  Second was Scout Adkin who ran 30 O one and third was Neve
• 36:06
  Brown who ran thirty O 8. Now we'll jump across.
• 36:13
  Cross country. Cross country is still going it
• 36:16
  feels like it's been on forever since maybe was it like November
• 36:20
  the 1st meets and stuff my. I think I need to meet in.
• 36:24
  October did you? Yeah.
• 36:27
  So, well, that probably follows like an Aussie.
• 36:30
  One in August or something. Probably because we speak of
• 36:33
  Aussie stuff as well. Yeah, I feel like it.
• 36:37
  Drags on in the UK more than well, even though there's still
• 36:40
  a bit of running, cross country, racing and Ireland, it's not
• 36:42
  that big for like this one must have been relatively big to get
• 36:45
  Hume, Huber, Milner out and about.
• 36:48
  So yeah, that was. The London.
• 36:52
  Cross Challenge We'll jump over to Dubai now for the Burge to
• 36:58
  Burge half marathon, which gets. All the big.
• 37:04
  East Africans the winner. Of this.
• 37:08
  Was Joshua chapter guy from Uganda who ran?
• 37:12
  59. 26 second was Nicholas kept career from Kenya who ran 29 or
• 37:18
  5928 and third was Alphonse. Simbu.
• 37:24
  From Tanzania who ran 5930. So Joshua chapter Guy is just
• 37:30
  running for being super fast on the track.
• 37:34
  Yeah, I was going to say so he's.
• 37:35
  The the reigning world record holder in the five and the
• 37:39
  10,000 meters isn't he? And he's attempted a couple of
• 37:43
  times to move up to the marathon and perhaps they haven't went as
• 37:47
  well as you would expect from a world record holder over middle
• 37:51
  distances. So what do you think this 59 1/2
• 37:56
  minutes over the half marathon does for his marathon potential?
• 37:59
  Is that is that a good marker for him?
• 38:04
  It's hard to know like. What the course is like, I mean,
• 38:08
  often all you can do is win, right?
• 38:09
  So he's won, but the time's not exceptionally fast.
• 38:16
  Putting aside keep Limo's record or time but 50s.
• 38:21
  But there's been a few people that have run 57 1/2 minutes
• 38:24
  like. I mean, what did have?
• 38:26
  Tom debut in Yeah, faster than that.
• 38:30
  Yeah, 0205901. Yeah, so.
• 38:37
  You know, for context, there's a lot of guys running faster than
• 38:40
  that. Over 1/2 and no.
• 38:42
  One's run quicker than. Him over 10K, so it's not the
• 38:45
  time itself's not exceptional. Surely it was warm though.
• 38:52
  Yeah, you'd think so. I mean, it was a.
• 38:55
  PB. Forum looking at it, which it's
• 38:58
  not going to move the marker by much.
• 39:00
  He's run like a Oh no, sorry. He's run 5921 in 2020, so yeah.
• 39:06
  That doesn't do much. For him at all, really, he's
• 39:09
  already. Run 20. 4 over the marathon and
• 39:13
  it sounds ridiculous that he's being judged off that and saying
• 39:17
  like, well, you haven't hit your potential, but from a world
• 39:20
  record 26, 38 in the 10K on the road, 2611 on the track, and
• 39:28
  you'd think there's potentially more room for conversion there.
• 39:32
  Your man. Simbu, he's the kid.
• 39:33
  That won the came second or did he win the world marathon, the
• 39:39
  world champion marathon? What do you been one?
• 39:42
  Hundredths of a second or something.
• 39:44
  So that was the dive to the line where.
• 39:46
  Petra. Petrus from Germany, Yeah, yeah.
• 39:50
  Bit of a bit. Of a rooster.
• 39:52
  Right, a bit easy on the eye, is what Ryan says.
• 39:54
  I think about in the short shorts.
• 40:00
  Goes to the split ease I think. Being on the.
• 40:04
  Ski jumpers and injections. And.
• 40:12
  The winner in watching the. Winter Olympics, have you saw,
• 40:15
  have you sidetracked into any much of that?
• 40:17
  You would get a bit of that, surely?
• 40:19
  I went over in Ireland, right? Like it'd be a lot closer
• 40:23
  closer. To that than.
• 40:25
  I think. Ireland have four people at the
• 40:28
  Winter Olympics and like three of them and Irish.
• 40:33
  Really. As in like, yeah.
• 40:34
  They're like, they're like Canadian or American or
• 40:37
  something like that. I don't know how it works.
• 40:41
  Yeah, like boredom. Like it's on like, let's say the
• 40:44
  BBC. Yeah, it's on the BBC or like,
• 40:47
  or the main TV channel here in the evening and it shows like
• 40:51
  highlights and all sort of stuff.
• 40:52
  So because it's only, well, it's in Milan, like it's not that far
• 40:54
  away. I'm so like it's only an hour
• 40:57
  ahead. Of us, time wise and.
• 41:01
  But I think it's cool. Some events around.
• 41:05
  Even as Randall of. January.
• 41:06
  I thought you would have been a Winter Olympic specialist
• 41:08
  country. No, it's rain not.
• 41:13
  Snow. I see in a clip on.
• 41:19
  Them on XI. Don't know which bobsled team it
• 41:22
  was. It might have been the
• 41:22
  Americans. Bizarrely, usually Americans was
• 41:26
  it. And they're all.
• 41:28
  Doing like the Sprint star, it's on the floor team and only one
• 41:32
  of them made it into the bobsled and they're all fucking sliding
• 41:34
  down the chute. I did say that.
• 41:37
  I did also saw some Norwegian. The Norwegians dominate their
• 41:42
  skiing. Hey, they've VO2, Yeah or.
• 41:46
  With their hundred. Plus.
• 41:47
  VO2. I seen.
• 41:51
  Yeah. I've never seen.
• 41:53
  Any of them. I.
• 41:55
  Seen a meme and it was like. That video of the Americans in
• 41:59
  the bobsleigh and it's like America trying to invade
• 42:02
  Greenland because Greenland. 'S full of snow, apparently.
• 42:06
  And it's like, yeah. That was fun.
• 42:09
  Anyway, back to somewhere. Where there's no.
• 42:10
  Snow. Dubai.
• 42:13
  The women's side. It was won by Irene Chapter from
• 42:16
  Kenya in 6657. Second was Josh Leah John Arrow
• 42:23
  from Kenya who ran 6659 and third was for Twazare from
• 42:29
  Ethiopia around 67 O1. Like I think it's crazy that
• 42:32
  like boredom, 67 minute half marathoners and I've never heard
• 42:35
  of any of them before in my life.
• 42:37
  Noble mentioned 5th Alexandra Bell from Great Britain.
• 42:40
  She ran 6935 and which is 15th all time on her debut and on a
• 42:47
  box up her 305710K in Valencia. Yeah, what do you reckon?
• 42:53
  On that 3057 in Valencia is a lot better than that 6935
• 42:59
  though, isn't it? Yeah, but I think it's different
• 43:04
  I. Don't like I feel.
• 43:05
  Like it's different training. No like that from a 10K to 1/2.
• 43:09
  I feel like it is a big step up the same 1/2 to a marathon, like
• 43:13
  you know, even halfway there when you run a 10K.
• 43:17
  And again, this is our first and it's in freaking Dubai.
• 43:23
  She's coming from that. 800 meter pedigree as well.
• 43:26
  It's not like she's used to this type of trainer, no.
• 43:31
  So yeah, still a savage run. You take down your debut, Yeah.
• 43:35
  It's interesting seeing. People switch distances and like
• 43:39
  they run very well, but then there's there's real life
• 43:42
  specialists like it is all quite specific.
• 43:45
  Like do you remember when Jacob tried to RIP a fast half at the
• 43:49
  end of his track season and he's just come off winning a Diamond
• 43:52
  League running? I think it might have been the
• 43:54
  time he ran around the time he ran 717 for 3K.
• 43:58
  So like he's exceptionally good over that.
• 44:01
  But then when he got to the roads was not as efficient and
• 44:05
  yes. You know it's the same with
• 44:06
  femme keys. Like she's what did she run 49
• 44:08
  seconds for 400 meters, which is outrageous.
• 44:11
  Like, but then like there's only a handful of women or maybe say
• 44:17
  10 ever 20 ever that have done that, yet there'd be over 100
• 44:22
  that have run under 2 minutes for 800.
• 44:25
  Like there's they're, they're both exceptional performances,
• 44:29
  but there's experts of the experts in their distance.
• 44:34
  Yeah, 63. 30 and Jacob Brown when he tried that half shit
• 44:39
  Dean, you could you could have been chasing him up the last UK.
• 44:43
  But didn't he split? He split halfway in like 28
• 44:49
  Lower 27. Yeah, something crazy, yeah.
• 44:55
  All gone downhill since. Then Mr. Yahoo and.
• 45:00
  The the. Kenyan who won that that race in
• 45:05
  January 2024. She ran the Valencia 10K in
• 45:11
  3017. She's a marathon PB at 2:17, so
• 45:16
  she. Ran the 2:17 in.
• 45:17
  Chicago last year. She only ran one race.
• 45:21
  And it was the marathon in Shanghai she went to. 18 there
• 45:25
  so. Yeah, she's got a bit history
• 45:26
  behind her. That's all of their race
• 45:30
  results. Before we go.
• 45:35
  Into previewing the ones coming up do we want to maybe we'll
• 45:39
  talk about some running news before we do training week so I
• 45:43
  assume you're both seeing well, I think we would have shared it
• 45:45
  in our chat that Kiplimo's insane half marathon run from
• 45:50
  last year what was it the 5642 in Barcelona where he ran in
• 45:55
  adverted commas? What would have been a world
• 45:58
  record? There's been a lot of talk
• 46:02
  around that because it was never ratified, and now we see why,
• 46:05
  because they finally decided that it wouldn't be ratified.
• 46:09
  They're largely not because any drugs or any cheating was found
• 46:14
  from that point of view, but more so because he was deemed to
• 46:17
  have been following the lead car too closely, which I feel bad
• 46:20
  for him really, because he can't influence that car can.
• 46:24
  He's obviously just going to take as much benefit from it as
• 46:28
  he can and run as close to as he can.
• 46:31
  It's. Stupid race.
• 46:32
  Has done them dirty rarely. What do you think?
• 46:37
  Yeah. We probably covered this and
• 46:41
  it's been covered on other podcasts like the Real Science
• 46:43
  Sports podcast, but the performance itself was so
• 46:46
  exceptional that it was hard to comprehend.
• 46:51
  And I still feel a bit about that.
• 46:52
  So part of me. Likes the fact that.
• 46:55
  It hasn't been ratified because I not sure if I believe it.
• 47:00
  I don't know. I don't know if that's right or
• 47:01
  wrong, but that's just how I feel about it.
• 47:04
  So yeah, I like that it's still 5730 odd, as crazy as that
• 47:10
  sounds, even given like the Aussie records 2 1/2 minutes off
• 47:14
  that, but that sits better than 3 1/2 minutes I suppose.
• 47:20
  Yeah, I'm with Dean as well on this one.
• 47:24
  It's just. It's crazy.
• 47:25
  To run a 56, 40 odd half marathon like the carrot
• 47:29
  definitely helped him. I'm like, fair enough.
• 47:30
  It wasn't his fault that the car was closed on I it's just yeah,
• 47:34
  it it seems too good to be true. So I'm happy that it's hasn't
• 47:39
  gratified but. Then Buddy Roof.
• 47:43
  Chapman gets it. Who we know was doping.
• 47:46
  Her record still stands, Yeah, but she.
• 47:49
  Wasn't open the time she. Ran the record right.
• 47:52
  Come on, Well as pair the blue findings, it's fucking nice, but
• 47:59
  Jirak and Kajalcha gets a world record bonus again now that
• 48:02
  he's. He's the new holder.
• 48:06
  Probably why. I was so long.
• 48:07
  I was. Thinking.
• 48:08
  If Kaplima would have got a bonus or would they have waited
• 48:12
  for it to be ratified? True.
• 48:15
  Hopefully they waited, maybe like.
• 48:19
  Sports bet they're doing early payout.
• 48:22
  First past the post. It's funny though, because when
• 48:25
  you look. At the all time list he's still
• 48:28
  he goes from potential world record holders.
• 48:31
  Oh well, I'll just have to settle for second fastest all
• 48:33
  time because he's actually run one second slower than
• 48:36
  Kajelcha's 5730 in Lisbon bizarrely in back in 2021.
• 48:43
  Fair. Chance he gets it at some point.
• 48:47
  Imagine he's on because. Barcelona is again this weekend,
• 48:50
  isn't it? Imagine he just rolls up to the
• 48:52
  start line because he's on the London start list, wasn't it?
• 48:56
  We were saying. Yeah, yeah, it's it's crazy that
• 49:04
  on this like the fastest all time half marathoners, the top
• 49:08
  30 are all East African. Yeah, I had to scroll all the
• 49:14
  way to 50th. Yeah, to find to.
• 49:18
  Find a European wasn't even an American and under some Almgren.
• 49:25
  Second piece of news being that Jacob Binga Britain finally got
• 49:30
  some surgery on his Achilles, which has been given him
• 49:33
  problems on and off for what must be the best part of AC
• 49:38
  months, two years almost now. He's tried to come back a couple
• 49:41
  of times and. Clearly.
• 49:44
  Unsuccessfully managed it or managed to sustain training in
• 49:48
  its current conditions. So I think that he flew over to
• 49:51
  the Oh well, he's probably in the US already because he trains
• 49:54
  and Flagstaff a lot and he got surgery in the US.
• 49:59
  Seeing him photos of him in a like a walk in booth.
• 50:02
  I don't know how long the recovery is from it, but I
• 50:05
  think. He'd already said.
• 50:07
  He was planning on opening the season not till like June, July
• 50:10
  time. So I don't know if this pushes
• 50:12
  that back further or if he'll be on track for that.
• 50:15
  What do you know? Apparently his Achilles is like.
• 50:18
  Fully intact. So the Achilles wasn't the
• 50:20
  problem. It was like a sheet that like.
• 50:23
  Surrounds. The Achilles had a lot of scar
• 50:25
  tissue on it, so he just got that removed or something like
• 50:29
  that. I don't really know.
• 50:31
  But yeah. So I think the recovery is is
• 50:35
  going to be faster than usual because it actually isn't the
• 50:38
  physical Achilles. So hopefully he comes back, but
• 50:41
  like there's nothing to come back to really.
• 50:43
  There's no big. The biggest championship this
• 50:45
  year is Wolf World Indoors on the world stage and maybe he
• 50:50
  might get Europeans there on the summer, you don't know.
• 50:52
  But he's in really. This is like the perfect gear to
• 50:55
  do it for him. So I'm happy he got done and
• 50:57
  hopefully we'll see him back pretty soon.
• 51:00
  Have you seen that there's? Not nothing much has been spoken
• 51:03
  of it, but there's a meese in I think it's September called like
• 51:06
  the World Ultimate Championships.
• 51:08
  I don't know if it's the first rendition of it, but it's like
• 51:11
  to qualify you have to have worn, I think won the Diamond
• 51:14
  League in the season leading up to it and or be reigning Olympic
• 51:19
  or world champions like hence the name Ultimate Championships.
• 51:25
  So it'd be interesting to see how that is received on the back
• 51:29
  end of the season. I guess with there being no like
• 51:32
  major championships this year, that's kind of like in replace
• 51:36
  of it whether. He can get himself right for.
• 51:39
  That I. Just went on a bit of a.
• 51:42
  Google rabbit hole. So apologies guys, but like just
• 51:45
  looking at those world records again.
• 51:47
  So the first two Kenyans on that list, Kibi Watt Candy and Ronix
• 51:53
  Kipruto, aren't they both serving doping bans?
• 51:58
  Pretty sure I'm like. Checking the reading.
• 52:01
  Some old news here and it reads that they both are.
• 52:08
  Yeah, I wonder how many. You can.
• 52:09
  Delete from that list. Yeah.
• 52:11
  So they're both. On that list, because I think
• 52:13
  when they got done is like both in 2025, but they're both under
• 52:18
  58 minutes. So just in terms of performances
• 52:22
  feeling too good to be true. And then two of the people that
• 52:25
  either held the world record or in the top five ever, both
• 52:29
  currently. Serve in doping bans.
• 52:30
  I don't know. Just reaffirms the.
• 52:34
  Comments about the previous world record?
• 52:36
  I think maybe. But anyway, yeah, it's hard.
• 52:42
  When you start to look into it and like actually question them,
• 52:47
  you can find a reason to almost wipe off anything towards the
• 52:51
  top. But like, you've got to draw the
• 52:52
  line somewhere, haven't you? Otherwise, what what's the point
• 52:55
  in following and trying to enjoy the sport?
• 52:58
  But I get that, yeah, it's a very mixed and blurred line.
• 53:04
  I'm sure wasn't there another fucking?
• 53:06
  Canyon Dawn this week. Yeah, some guy who?
• 53:11
  Was on like a 10,000 meter podium.
• 53:13
  I was trying to just dig it back out.
• 53:15
  Thanks. We shared it to each other.
• 53:17
  I'm so. Dickhead like fuck.
• 53:19
  Off. Quebec Coetch of Kenya.
• 53:24
  DQ D from the Paris. 10,000 meter final because of that.
• 53:30
  Is he on this list? And like it was just he wasn't
• 53:34
  actually caught doping. It was that abnormalities in his
• 53:38
  like athlete biological passport.
• 53:42
  Yeah, so in Paris, he. Actually finished fifth in the
• 53:45
  race behind Chapter Guy Aragawa, Grant Fisher, Muhammad Ahmed,
• 53:51
  ahead of Cadel Chebrega Kiplimo and he's since been dehued from
• 53:56
  that because of this. When will it stop?
• 54:02
  It does worry you because you. You must think like, do the do
• 54:06
  some of the athletes know that the others are doing it and do
• 54:09
  they know which ones are doing it?
• 54:11
  And do they therefore then think, well, if they're
• 54:15
  cheating, I like physically have to cheat to be able to remain
• 54:18
  competitive and then therefore is largely a hell of a lot of
• 54:23
  them doing it and like 1 by 1, it's drift feeding through to us
• 54:27
  and they're managing to catch them slowly.
• 54:31
  Like and some pretty top performances.
• 54:34
  So this person's been, yeah, top 8 at the Olympics, top 8 at the
• 54:37
  world champs and top 8 at the world running, road running
• 54:40
  champs. So it has taken like those
• 54:43
  honors, you know, top 8. Like I think funding and things
• 54:45
  like that all hang off when you finish within the top 8 of an
• 54:48
  Olympic event, you know, there's often 8 lines.
• 54:50
  So you're deemed as like a finalist, you know?
• 54:56
  Like he hasn't run since. August 2024 So like, surely they
• 55:01
  knew like long before this, and probably.
• 55:05
  His banner get back dated to them wearing it and yeah he must
• 55:08
  have knew but like. It's just like when, when do
• 55:13
  they just the whole country get banned or can you even ban the
• 55:15
  country? Like I noticed we talked about
• 55:16
  so much. Like it's, it's so ridiculous.
• 55:19
  At this stage. Is this?
• 55:22
  Is it strange? That like I almost want like a
• 55:26
  top level big profile white guy to get done just to like throw
• 55:29
  the cat amongst the pigeons. Because like I feel bad for some
• 55:32
  of the African nations that like unashamedly, well, ashamedly,
• 55:37
  they all kind of got tarred with the same brush because of the
• 55:40
  Kenyans and The Ethiopians. Like what's happening with them
• 55:43
  now? And is it really the case that
• 55:47
  no white person is doing it and it just all East Africans?
• 55:52
  I think it comes back to like, like there's other things going.
• 55:56
  We can make a living in other ways and make a pretty good
• 55:58
  living. Whereas in Kenya, it's got a
• 56:01
  history of being really good runners.
• 56:03
  Umm, if like it's just a way easier out for them to dope and
• 56:09
  actually make a good living. Like it's worth the risk if you
• 56:11
  get me. Whereas over here we've got
• 56:14
  other things going on to make money from, umm, Yeah, like.
• 56:20
  I don't. And the thing that worries?
• 56:21
  Me is Kenyans getting popped so much.
• 56:24
  There's nothing about Ethiopia. It's little.
• 56:26
  Brother so like. I don't know.
• 56:29
  I really don't know. It's it's drawn like a few
• 56:33
  Americans have gotten popped. But again, I don't think.
• 56:38
  Yeah, I don't know what to think.
• 56:40
  It's so one. Feels, yeah, I don't know, Kenya
• 56:44
  just feels like it's a bit more systemic than other places where
• 56:48
  maybe it's like pockets of culture rather than the norm.
• 56:53
  Whereas you can't feel but based.
• 56:54
  On the whole, the the number like you wouldn't target like I,
• 57:00
  I couldn't tell you a Ugandan athlete that's currently.
• 57:05
  Serving a dope. Doping ban or even an Ethiopian
• 57:08
  athlete. But I could tell you four or
• 57:10
  five Kenyan names that I'm familiar with based on times
• 57:15
  I've run or performances I've had that have served a doping
• 57:17
  ban recently. Yeah, almost like the.
• 57:21
  Federation encourages it, then it's like a regime, of course.
• 57:26
  Like everyone's doing it. Like, yeah, well, like we, we.
• 57:33
  Had with that guy that the other month didn't mean he was getting
• 57:35
  it off his bus driver or whatever it was or getting his
• 57:38
  bus driver to go and collect it for him.
• 57:40
  That's how accessible it is for a fiver in my way just.
• 57:47
  Taking broccoli stems like mugs and beetroot.
• 57:52
  Sitting in a sauna. Trying to get some bit of
• 57:55
  hemoglobin mass the old fashioned way I was actually
• 57:59
  chatting to. Someone the other day and they'd
• 58:02
  said that lots of their cycling mates, obviously they're not
• 58:06
  like competitive domestically or globally or anything like that.
• 58:09
  They're just casual cyclists. They're like they're.
• 58:12
  They're like middle. Aged fellas and they're all
• 58:15
  unlike tests and. Growth hormone and stuff like.
• 58:20
  This because they're just like, obviously they're not bound by
• 58:23
  anything and they're just enjoying being weirdos on the
• 58:28
  Pike. This is the middle-aged.
• 58:32
  Fellas in Perth, it's a slippery slope, Ryan.
• 58:36
  Yeah. So if you see me, start walking.
• 58:38
  Around like jacked up then start asking questions.
• 58:42
  We might have got a picture. Of that, didn't we?
• 58:44
  Oh yeah, big boy. Ryan.
• 58:49
  Past five. Nice.
• 58:51
  Training weeks. Supported by Gnomeo Owen, tell
• 58:55
  us what you've been up to. I think you've been doing the
• 58:57
  best training I don't know about.
• 58:59
  That anymore? Been a rough week for me.
• 59:03
  Started off with easy double on Monday so 60 minutes in the
• 59:07
  morning a 420 sevens and then 45 minutes in strides in the
• 59:13
  evening which does nearly 25 K day.
• 59:18
  Tuesday was sort of like one of my last.
• 59:23
  Also my last. Like sort of fast.
• 59:25
  Sessions gearing up pharma, so around 45 minutes on the
• 59:29
  treadmill in the morning, just really easy.
• 59:31
  And then in the evening I had five by AK off a 90 seconds rest
• 59:38
  and then I had like a few strides after autumn.
• 59:42
  For anyone who's not aware, it's been pretty shit weather over
• 59:47
  here recently. I know I don't mind about that
• 59:49
  enough, but yeah, it was shit. So windy, wet, and I was on that
• 59:53
  gravel track, my local gravel track solo.
• 59:58
  Can I come up? With any more.
• 59:59
  Excuses umm I don't know anyway I was hitting around like 256 is
• 1:00:05
  for days umm so yeah pretty happy with that off 90 seconds
• 1:00:10
  like they felt hard umm so. Sort of.
• 1:00:15
  Doubts. Like I'm able to like actually
• 1:00:17
  hold that faster than that. Like continuously Umm.
• 1:00:22
  But yeah, look God done take the box be plus session like.
• 1:00:27
  Conditions are rough. So at least I've done my favor.
• 1:00:31
  Wednesday morning I hopped on the elliptical for 60 minutes
• 1:00:35
  and then in the evening I done just a 35 minute jog and then I
• 1:00:41
  done my circuit class. Though.
• 1:00:47
  Felt. Really good.
• 1:00:49
  Up in the week up to there Thursday morning had on.
• 1:00:53
  The Cards 70. 5 minute run with like a 20 minute steady at the
• 1:00:57
  end. But when I woke up I felt like
• 1:01:01
  shit. So 5:00 in the morning, woke up,
• 1:01:03
  my throat was a bit sore and in my head I was like all right,
• 1:01:08
  I'll go back to bed for a little bit and I'll just do 30 minute
• 1:01:11
  run in the morning, bring all my running gear to work and then
• 1:01:14
  like do like 45 minutes at lunch.
• 1:01:16
  So 20 easy, 20 steady, 5 easy. So it's basically 75 minutes
• 1:01:21
  worth of work just broken up for umm yeah on three minute run.
• 1:01:25
  I felt so shit. So I got 6K in, but umm yeah,
• 1:01:29
  there was no point to me doing umm the rest of the workout with
• 1:01:34
  especially with like my last like big workout on Saturday.
• 1:01:38
  So umm, I. Was meant to do gym that eve.
• 1:01:41
  Then skipped gym just because it didn't feel great on them.
• 1:01:45
  Friday was a rest day anyway even though I wasn't fit to run,
• 1:01:48
  just lay in bed all day. But Saturday came along and I
• 1:01:53
  done my usual warm up on. The plan was to do 15 minute
• 1:01:57
  threshold and then it was 2 by 1 K at 5K race pace and then 3 by
• 1:02:04
  400 meters like 3K pace. And warmed up all right.
• 1:02:10
  Didn't feel too bad and then I don't the threshold like this.
• 1:02:16
  This is so. Stupid by me.
• 1:02:17
  So listen up. I there was a big group using
• 1:02:21
  the inside lanes. So I was like, ah, you see
• 1:02:24
  YouTube videos of people run on the outside lanes.
• 1:02:26
  I'll just run the outside lanes. So I picked lane 7, put my watch
• 1:02:30
  lane 7 Grant ran around and I split my watch where I started.
• 1:02:37
  So normally if you're on the inside lane, 400 meters.
• 1:02:42
  So I split my watch, I look down, I see like an 85.
• 1:02:46
  I'm like what the fuck? This was that was way harder.
• 1:02:49
  And I keep on going. Meanwhile I look at my heart
• 1:02:52
  rate and like from the off my heart rate is like 170.
• 1:02:58
  So normally like. I'm chilling heart.
• 1:03:02
  Rate should arrive for the whole.
• 1:03:03
  Run. I think my heart rate averaged
• 1:03:04
  like 175 and I kept on getting slower and slower and slower and
• 1:03:10
  then I was literally lying in bed Saturday night and I.
• 1:03:15
  I stood. Up and I was like I was running
• 1:03:18
  400 and I was splitting my watch every 440 meters.
• 1:03:21
  It's no wonder my paces were so fucking off I was like I
• 1:03:25
  literally text my coach. I was like I'm an idiot and boss
• 1:03:30
  yeah so the pace is like my first split was like a three O
• 1:03:33
  7, which umm which normally what I do that threshold ash, but my
• 1:03:39
  perceived effort was true to roof and it didn't help that I
• 1:03:42
  was expecting to see like a 76 or something and I was seeing
• 1:03:46
  like 84 at the end of it. I was running like 90 seconds
• 1:03:50
  and I thought, yeah, I'm such an idiot.
• 1:03:55
  No only. Are you 1?
• 1:03:57
  Well, and so your body is not feeling well, you then getting
• 1:04:00
  this awful reinforcement of like the times are so.
• 1:04:04
  Far out it just. Actually doesn't make any sense.
• 1:04:07
  No, and like I was. Pushing hard and I sweating like
• 1:04:10
  a. Pig as well.
• 1:04:11
  And it was cold, like it wasn't a warm day.
• 1:04:15
  It was just everything was going on.
• 1:04:17
  And so I called the session. I was like, look, there's no
• 1:04:19
  point. Then I was jogging around, so
• 1:04:23
  around this tractors, like sort of a gravel loop and umm, my
• 1:04:27
  track, my fucking watch was still in track mode.
• 1:04:32
  So I was running like 7 minute kilometers on the trail and I
• 1:04:35
  was like what is happening? I didn't know.
• 1:04:40
  I was like, what? I'm really, I feel like I'm
• 1:04:42
  moving well, like mechanically I feel like I'm moving.
• 1:04:44
  Well, but it's just like, I don't know how I'm running, so I
• 1:04:47
  never run a 7 minute kilometer. I was like, what's happening?
• 1:04:51
  And. Then I stopped and I realized I
• 1:04:54
  was on freaking track mode, and then I just had enough and yeah.
• 1:04:59
  Is is that? What's caused you to be ill,
• 1:05:02
  Mentally ill on the back of that?
• 1:05:05
  I don't. Know I don't know it.
• 1:05:07
  Just wasn't a good day in the office.
• 1:05:09
  And I was meant to run that evening.
• 1:05:12
  I didn't bother. Yesterday is meant to a long
• 1:05:15
  run. Didn't bother.
• 1:05:16
  And I'm still it's all like congestion in my head.
• 1:05:21
  The putting aside. The mishaps, the decision to
• 1:05:25
  just pull the work out and to not do your long run.
• 1:05:27
  Like because I think sometimes you still want to, you don't
• 1:05:31
  want to tape it yet for the race and you want to keep your
• 1:05:33
  fitness load up, like at least listening to your body.
• 1:05:35
  That sounds like great choices. Yeah, but especially because.
• 1:05:39
  So as I am on Thursday and then two weeks after, I've got, like,
• 1:05:43
  the national indoors. So like, it makes no sense.
• 1:05:45
  Like pulling it right back this early, but like, I sort of no
• 1:05:48
  choice. And like, I'm definitely
• 1:05:50
  fighting something, even though, like, I checked my hair every
• 1:05:53
  morning and my heart rate's normal.
• 1:05:54
  Like, my energy levels are actually all right.
• 1:05:56
  It's just my fault. Like, I'm just congested and my
• 1:06:00
  sinuses are. Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  I don't know. So you get on top of it and
• 1:06:05
  it's. Just a head cold in two or three
• 1:06:07
  days, it's hopefully fine. Whereas if you push through, it
• 1:06:10
  gets into your chest and then it turns into two or three weeks.
• 1:06:13
  Like, yeah, so I'm going to. Sometimes, like hopefully I'm
• 1:06:18
  through the worst of it. So I'll jog tonight and see how
• 1:06:21
  my heart rate is because you can tell so much from the heart
• 1:06:23
  rate. And if it's true to if I'm an
• 1:06:25
  easy run, I'm just, I won't run until, well, I might do armor,
• 1:06:29
  armor there might be no point. And so we'll see.
• 1:06:33
  What happens? For Sam, yeah, I think around 77
• 1:06:37
  K that week, last week. So yeah, we'll you'll see
• 1:06:43
  whether or not I were on Thursday.
• 1:06:45
  But at the moment if I if I was like feeling the way I am now, I
• 1:06:48
  won't be running out of that way.
• 1:06:51
  I was just going to ask. Do you track HIV or anything
• 1:06:59
  like that? You know, like in terms of you
• 1:07:02
  mentioned. Rest right?
• 1:07:03
  In your morning, I do H. RVI think.
• 1:07:06
  HRV is like your average resting heart rate, yeah.
• 1:07:11
  And the variability. In it just to, to like when your
• 1:07:14
  body's under I think a lot of stress, there's no the HRV score
• 1:07:20
  reduces I think because it's the function of of stress and
• 1:07:24
  whereas I think there's meant to be some natural variability when
• 1:07:27
  your body's relaxed so that's. Why, when you taper your heart
• 1:07:32
  rate straight the week previous, like your heart rate isn't as
• 1:07:34
  high, so your HRV will be naturally lower.
• 1:07:39
  Umm, but yeah, so mine, mine's in the middle.
• 1:07:42
  Like, it's all right at the moment, which is another reason
• 1:07:44
  why like, I'm just going to try and jog tonight.
• 1:07:47
  Umm, but yeah, so I was like, I'm sleeping well, like my HIV
• 1:07:51
  is good. My, my resting heart rate's
• 1:07:53
  good. Umm, yeah, I really don't know.
• 1:07:55
  It came out of nowhere. Umm, I think, I don't know, like
• 1:07:58
  an excel course in work on the on the Tuesday and I was just in
• 1:08:03
  a room where like shit air con for like all day with like 13
• 1:08:07
  other people. So that probably could have been
• 1:08:09
  where I picked up something. Umm, but yeah, what can you do?
• 1:08:14
  These things happen can all be. Freaks in the sheets like Ryan
• 1:08:19
  and I with Excel. Well, I'm.
• 1:08:23
  A freak in the sheets now. I'm pretty I'm an intermediate.
• 1:08:26
  I'm an. Intermediate you got all your
• 1:08:29
  short. Case.
• 1:08:29
  Going with your fast case, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:08:37
  I think Dean's just. A bit fired up on the back of
• 1:08:39
  his birthday weekend and. He's him getting the big snake.
• 1:08:46
  I was going. To say Aaron.
• 1:08:47
  What does in like a perfect world say you jog tonight, you
• 1:08:50
  feel fine? What does like Tuesday Wednesday
• 1:08:53
  look like then given the races on Thursday?
• 1:08:56
  Man literally just jogging. Strides.
• 1:08:58
  I won't change anything. Like realistically, the session
• 1:09:01
  on Saturday is literally just like confirming I'm fit and
• 1:09:04
  ready to go. And but like I like Iran 20 I
• 1:09:09
  ran with I ran 1427 solo in Navan at Christmas.
• 1:09:12
  Then I ran fast in Valencia. Like I know I'm fit and this is
• 1:09:17
  sort of a free hit. Like I think the boys were
• 1:09:19
  saying umm from fly carb like it's in that downhill course,
• 1:09:23
  like I don't. Really like I know you can.
• 1:09:25
  Count Rd. PBS but in my head like each
• 1:09:28
  road race is different so fair enough you're on that fast.
• 1:09:30
  I think it's more of an achievement if you're on the
• 1:09:32
  track, because track is like same for everyone.
• 1:09:35
  Umm, like I'd still count as APB, but this is just a free hit
• 1:09:38
  for me. Like there's way more chances to
• 1:09:40
  run fast in the summer. So if I was going, I just I just
• 1:09:44
  rolled the dice and go hard. Umm, so yeah, plan is still just
• 1:09:48
  to jog easy few strides. Umm, like an unfit.
• 1:09:52
  So just yeah, give it a give it a good bash.
• 1:09:56
  Love it. Roger that YouTube.
• 1:09:59
  Diaries. Has anyone got anything to
• 1:10:01
  think? It's becoming a popular segment
• 1:10:03
  in the world of podcasting. Seen it featured over on the
• 1:10:07
  Sweat Elite show. So Sharon is caring in the world
• 1:10:12
  of podcast. And I always say we shout out
• 1:10:14
  podcasts that we listen to and enjoy.
• 1:10:16
  So it's nice to see one of our segments making its way into
• 1:10:20
  another podcast. It'd be nice to see if the
• 1:10:23
  acknowledgement was passed back as well.
• 1:10:27
  Eh, right. Yeah, YouTube.
• 1:10:28
  Diaries I've so people might be very familiar with this guy.
• 1:10:32
  His name is Hugo Fry. He's pretty prominent on
• 1:10:36
  Instagram. He's sponsored by like precision
• 1:10:38
  feel nitration, very funny guy and but he's after going like
• 1:10:41
  all in on this like social media influencing and all this, he
• 1:10:44
  quit his day job and then to go along with it, he's like a
• 1:10:47
  pretty decent runner. So to just put some time
• 1:10:50
  interest perspective, at Christmas there he broke 15
• 1:10:53
  minutes for the first time. He ran like 1442 or something
• 1:10:58
  like that. And then he goes out and runs
• 1:11:01
  Valencia 10K and he breaks, he runs like 293637.
• 1:11:11
  So yeah, he just breaks the 15 minute time back-to-back again.
• 1:11:15
  He's run pretty fast in the marathon as well.
• 1:11:19
  Let me. Just get his.
• 1:11:20
  World Athletics up, is it like 216 or?
• 1:11:23
  217, something like that. I want to say 17, yeah. 217,
• 1:11:28
  yeah. Have you got him covered there?
• 1:11:31
  Knows he. Got you on the seconds.
• 1:11:33
  I just saw his Instagram. So I don't know, how did he just
• 1:11:36
  says 217? He's run, Yeah, 2/17/50.
• 1:11:41
  Five got it covered. However.
• 1:11:45
  That is in that CIM, which is not downhill, so yeah.
• 1:11:50
  And he runs. In the half he ran Barcelona
• 1:11:52
  last year, he ran 6551, which is umm, yeah, pretty rapid.
• 1:11:57
  He's done a few alters as well. He's just mad.
• 1:11:59
  But he's really, really, he's a really good watch.
• 1:12:02
  Like he's easy to listen to, very down to earth and shows a
• 1:12:06
  lot about what he eats nutrition wise and all that sort of stuff.
• 1:12:09
  And yeah, it's just interesting to see how good he can go.
• 1:12:13
  So he's running Barcelona now, and then he's doing Boston.
• 1:12:20
  Is that he's doing Boston or London one of the big ones?
• 1:12:25
  He's the. Guy who like.
• 1:12:26
  In the nicest possible way, genuinely, he doesn't look like
• 1:12:29
  an elite runner, does he? If you were to look at him, no,
• 1:12:32
  no. But he's fucking.
• 1:12:33
  He's God. He is God.
• 1:12:37
  Yes, I've seen him crop up. On a few like Rails, you know,
• 1:12:40
  on the timeline and stuff he's been doing maybe as he got his
• 1:12:43
  own podcast as well even no he. Goes beyond that emotional
• 1:12:47
  intelligence. 1A Good, but I think he's on it once a month or
• 1:12:50
  something like that. Umm.
• 1:12:53
  But yeah, he's just like. That guy living in London,
• 1:12:56
  always around. Battersea Park.
• 1:12:58
  Umm living the life basically yeah, a good watch as well.
• 1:13:02
  So he's only recently started YouTube.
• 1:13:04
  I think he's only two videos, but he's doing like a build umm,
• 1:13:07
  for his umm, half marathon marathon coming up.
• 1:13:10
  So, umm, yeah, give him, give him a watch, you guys.
• 1:13:14
  Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know about this one to
• 1:13:17
  be honest. Like I remember him on my
• 1:13:18
  Instagram reels but I didn't realize that he had a YouTube
• 1:13:22
  channel so. He does a good bit of cross
• 1:13:25
  training as well. He like he does a bit of
• 1:13:26
  swimming and all that sort of stuff.
• 1:13:28
  So like he's he's doing like a ridiculous high mileage and I
• 1:13:31
  don't think he poses all to to Strava.
• 1:13:36
  But yeah, no, he's a good watch and.
• 1:13:39
  You said he's lining. Up for Barcelona this weekend,
• 1:13:43
  yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Yeah, which is annoying because we're trying.
• 1:13:46
  To find the fields for that, weren't we?
• 1:13:47
  But it doesn't seem like they've released any like formal elite
• 1:13:50
  fields. We know what we think and we
• 1:13:53
  know Jake Smith is lining up there.
• 1:13:56
  So be cool to follow him there, see how he gets on.
• 1:13:59
  Because based on his Strava and his Instagram, he seems like
• 1:14:02
  he's been training the house down.
• 1:14:04
  And I think he was open and saying over the past couple of
• 1:14:07
  months, like seeing everyone run fast times.
• 1:14:11
  I like Valencia and stuff. He was Itchingham rarings ago,
• 1:14:14
  so you know how he races. He'll be putting himself right
• 1:14:17
  in the mixer, Ben. Felton, his journal.
• 1:14:21
  For Barcelona he's gone for sub 65 so be interested to see how
• 1:14:25
  he goes as well. I wish they released like it's
• 1:14:28
  just typical running that for like Seville it's you have to
• 1:14:31
  like struggle to find that lead field and Barcelona you can't
• 1:14:34
  even find like 2 massive races like they should be like well
• 1:14:38
  publicized yeah stupid. There's probably a.
• 1:14:44
  Space there where some. Sort of centralised site where
• 1:14:47
  you could go and see. It would be nice.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah, 2, right? So on Seville, they have kindly
• 1:14:56
  released their fields and they're bloody big as well.
• 1:14:59
  So I'll try and just pick out a couple of names.
• 1:15:01
  But I think maybe importantly for us and listeners who follow
• 1:15:06
  Team Macau, so Ellis Cross, who is the the Brummy guy on there
• 1:15:12
  with the the nice Birmingham accent, similar to was it, is it
• 1:15:15
  Jack who had the Birmingham accent from Fly Carp?
• 1:15:22
  Jack Yeah. Keith follows Birmingham as
• 1:15:24
  well. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:26
  So. Ellis Cross sounds like him, but
• 1:15:28
  a little bit more exaggerated as well, but a bit more Jack
• 1:15:32
  reelish. And Sarah Aston from the female
• 1:15:37
  side of their team is also making her marathon debut.
• 1:15:40
  So no doubt there'll be a cool video to come on the back of
• 1:15:44
  that. We'll probably cover it in
• 1:15:45
  YouTube Diaries when that comes out.
• 1:15:48
  There's also a couple of Irish fellas listed here, Paul
• 1:15:50
  O'Donnell. Yeah, he's PB.
• 1:15:56
  Of 210. From New York last year and.
• 1:16:00
  New York isn't fast. Yeah, New York's not.
• 1:16:02
  Renowned for being rapid. Ryan Creech to 11 from Dublin.
• 1:16:07
  Yeah, yeah. Not a big one.
• 1:16:10
  Big name and Irish running and that's funny.
• 1:16:14
  Because I was. Trying to find like the British
• 1:16:15
  guys and looking for like United Kingdom or Great Britain as the
• 1:16:19
  nationality. And it's obviously in Spanish.
• 1:16:21
  So it says Reyno Unido. That must be like Great Britain
• 1:16:25
  and in Spanish. But there's also Jacob Allen,
• 1:16:29
  who must be making his debut as well because they've got his
• 1:16:31
  half PB 6243 listed in there. Ben Connor I think was.
• 1:16:37
  Down as a pacer. So yeah, I mean, Seville is.
• 1:16:41
  Renowned for being another one of those fast Spanish marathons.
• 1:16:45
  Like good weather, pretty much guaranteed, nice and cool flat.
• 1:16:50
  It's almost like the the little brother to Valencia.
• 1:16:53
  That's the impression I get of it.
• 1:16:56
  At least John Nash is. Running there.
• 1:16:58
  As well interest to see how he goes.
• 1:17:01
  Is it? Is he actually racing though?
• 1:17:04
  Not sure tonight. So it's sort of it's.
• 1:17:08
  It's an awkward. Position like if you does it
• 1:17:10
  mess up your build for London? Is it too close to London now or
• 1:17:13
  like probably between Valencia and London?
• 1:17:16
  I really want to do Seville. I mean, we, Ryan and I did.
• 1:17:21
  Maragami, which is the weekend before now, ahead of Ballarat
• 1:17:25
  last year, which Ballarat was the same day as London.
• 1:17:29
  You like it? Probably.
• 1:17:32
  Probably goes all right, you know, like.
• 1:17:35
  Half marathon Now test your half marathon fitness and then you
• 1:17:38
  have a lot of week and then you do your marathon.
• 1:17:41
  Specific. Stuff.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, but this is a legit. Marathon.
• 1:17:47
  They're just listed with half marathon PBS because they
• 1:17:49
  haven't. Oh, apologies.
• 1:17:51
  Well, they're. Doing a marathon into a
• 1:17:52
  marathon. Yeah.
• 1:17:54
  Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:56
  Wow, that's very tight. I've actually been to Seville
• 1:18:00
  have. You ever been over?
• 1:18:03
  No Lovely City. I went and watched Liverpool
• 1:18:08
  there. Well, I didn't didn't actually
• 1:18:10
  go to the game, but Liverpool were playing Seville at the
• 1:18:13
  time. It was 3 all.
• 1:18:15
  I think we might have been three and a lot end up drawing 3 all,
• 1:18:18
  so that was not fun. But yeah, lovely city.
• 1:18:24
  Few people. Yeah, next.
• 1:18:31
  On the women's side, is there anyone big?
• 1:18:34
  Lily. Partridge, she.
• 1:18:35
  Of Great Britain, she has APB at 2:25, which is bang up there
• 1:18:38
  amongst the British marathoners at the minute she.
• 1:18:42
  Ran Valencia as well, so yeah, it's it's.
• 1:18:46
  Getting towards that marathon season now, the spring marathons
• 1:18:49
  that will be Seville into Boston into London into, well, Ballarat
• 1:18:54
  will be going on there as well. For the Australian listeners,
• 1:18:58
  they've started to like drip feed.
• 1:19:00
  Their elite failed as well. I think, Tom, the console's had
• 1:19:04
  that one up. Yeah.
• 1:19:05
  Does does Alice cross? Break to 10 does he?
• 1:19:10
  I'm going to say no, but that would.
• 1:19:11
  Be a fantastic run. If he did, he's probably going.
• 1:19:14
  For that European. Standard 20930 and yeah I don't
• 1:19:21
  know either. Like he's been training the
• 1:19:22
  house then and he ran 1/2 the weekend and he looked so, so
• 1:19:26
  smooth. What, you're on 64 high or
• 1:19:28
  something? And he looked so smooth.
• 1:19:30
  So again, you're. Only halfway when?
• 1:19:33
  You're but still. The I think this marathon is
• 1:19:38
  good for those those sorts of things, like it's all the pace.
• 1:19:42
  Groups aren't going. Out it that 201 to 204 pace
• 1:19:45
  often, like there's normally a few European packs that are set
• 1:19:50
  around those European European qualifiers and those sorts of
• 1:19:53
  standards so I feel. Like if that's what the target?
• 1:19:56
  Is it's. These seem to line up well for
• 1:19:58
  those sorts of things and. It's pretty stacked around.
• 1:20:02
  That and like there's so many like 20820 nines 2 tens like
• 1:20:07
  he's going to put people around them yeah I think that I.
• 1:20:10
  Think people people are cottoning on to what races to do
• 1:20:14
  that's best for them at their level.
• 1:20:15
  I reckon there's a sound. Isn't.
• 1:20:19
  It there's an Jesus, there's a myth in the US called Sound in
• 1:20:23
  Vice over the upcoming weekend and that's kind of like the next
• 1:20:27
  in the series of these ridiculous American indoor meets
• 1:20:31
  that have been happening with like all the kind of top guys
• 1:20:34
  there. So there's a mile which is going
• 1:20:36
  to feature Cole Hocker, Cupatea Santana and Sam Ruth as well as
• 1:20:41
  Festus Lagat. So we can expect Jack antsy of
• 1:20:46
  Australia's actually made his way into the field as well.
• 1:20:49
  So that'll be cool to follow. We can expect some probably
• 1:20:53
  ridiculous things there. Like Cole Hawker.
• 1:20:56
  Well, Sam Ruth going head to Like the guy's 16?
• 1:21:01
  Years old. Imagine even just last year when
• 1:21:04
  he's probably sat there and what he would have been in year 10
• 1:21:08
  just cranking. Sessions out and.
• 1:21:10
  Dreaming like posters of Cole Hawker on his wall, almost.
• 1:21:13
  And now he's stood there in the start line against them.
• 1:21:18
  Genuinely competitive. Potentially.
• 1:21:22
  Yeah, and it's funny, right? Like didn't I think his dad was
• 1:21:25
  it? Ben was talking about how
• 1:21:28
  they're coming over to do 3 races and I think this first,
• 1:21:31
  the first one they did was meant to be a bit of like a rust
• 1:21:34
  Buster. They're like 3 days off, you
• 1:21:36
  know, travelling. Halfway.
• 1:21:37
  Around the world and he's come out and ripped that.
• 1:21:40
  So it's like, fuck, what are we? Where do we go with that?
• 1:21:43
  So. I don't know.
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, I think on the back of that.
• 1:21:47
  As well, they've they've announced that the pivoting I'm
• 1:21:50
  gonna do like maybe the last one's going to be a 3K or
• 1:21:53
  something instead of another mile because they've already
• 1:21:56
  banked the mile. That's the issue.
• 1:21:58
  Like, yeah. Yeah, you, you're trying to
• 1:22:00
  crescendo like what? Like what Cam did with his three
• 1:22:03
  races, you know how he built into them and you or even like
• 1:22:06
  what Cole Hawker did doing that lower key 2K into into the next
• 1:22:12
  race, like into the two mile. It was a clever way to do it.
• 1:22:18
  Lauren Ryan's in the. Female Mile, as well as Emily
• 1:22:22
  Mackay and a couple of other American ladies.
• 1:22:25
  And then there's a 5K which has got Drew, Hunter, Scott BC.
• 1:22:31
  That's. Probably about it in.
• 1:22:33
  Terms of relevance to me. But yeah, that's.
• 1:22:38
  Another cool. One to follow and.
• 1:22:41
  Then lastly. There's another races Opeth
• 1:22:43
  track classic. Jeez, just about 3 or 4 miles up
• 1:22:47
  the road, they've released the fields this morning I think it
• 1:22:51
  was. So being headlined essentially
• 1:22:54
  from like the middle distance races by Pete Ball in the 800
• 1:22:58
  meters there's. Also, there's a British.
• 1:23:01
  Guy listed in there which is like quite random.
• 1:23:04
  Do you remember the name Tianan Kroken?
• 1:23:07
  And he like he ran the auto qualifier for Tokyo last year.
• 1:23:13
  Can't remember if he ends up going or not.
• 1:23:15
  I think he went and then he went out in the heat and next to his
• 1:23:19
  name is listed Victoria as like the club or the area, which is
• 1:23:24
  random. But he's got a UK flag next to
• 1:23:27
  him so he'll be on the 800 missed start line against people
• 1:23:30
  in Perth. Was he?
• 1:23:32
  Working in Asda or? Something like that.
• 1:23:35
  Yeah, I think that is the guy. Yeah.
• 1:23:39
  So must be. Moved over there.
• 1:23:40
  Yeah, go. 144, yeah. Look, boys, people.
• 1:23:45
  Him a couple of Japanese guys which I'm assuming are coming
• 1:23:49
  over as part of the MTC crew contingent.
• 1:23:54
  And then in the. Women's 1500 meters is the other
• 1:23:57
  like middle distance race, Abby Caldwell's kind of headline.
• 1:24:00
  And that one, you've got Jayla Hancock, Cameron in there as
• 1:24:03
  well. And then there's a men's 5000
• 1:24:05
  meters, which is basically whoa. There's an Irish girl on that
• 1:24:09
  as. Well, Laura Nicholson.
• 1:24:11
  Oh, yeah. Sorry.
• 1:24:12
  You know. Or no other?
• 1:24:14
  No other. Yeah, 407.
• 1:24:17
  But I'd be Caldwell, like she's just so far her and that Tanaka,
• 1:24:20
  it's good getting her over there.
• 1:24:21
  I'm trying to get her on the pod.
• 1:24:27
  I wonder. If she was the one when I ran
• 1:24:31
  with MTC that one time there was a Japanese lady there and she
• 1:24:35
  was getting dropped. It's not like you're.
• 1:24:38
  One that does all the diamond leads.
• 1:24:40
  Yeah, that's. An arc is, yeah.
• 1:24:42
  I don't think she I. Think she'd be?
• 1:24:44
  Dropping you run. No, we lost her in the Bush,
• 1:24:48
  everyone. Was concerned for her
• 1:24:49
  well-being. Oh shit on that.
• 1:24:52
  What is it the long run route to do?
• 1:24:58
  Can't even think you've got like 2.
• 1:24:59
  Names or something. Doesn't.
• 1:25:02
  It Jared flats? No.
• 1:25:04
  Yeah. That one.
• 1:25:07
  So is the the Irish girl. Is she based in Australia or
• 1:25:10
  she's just come over? I'm.
• 1:25:13
  Aware she wasn't based in. Australia, but I look right now.
• 1:25:17
  Yeah, I was trying to look back at the.
• 1:25:18
  The field from last year, because I was thinking shit, the
• 1:25:21
  fields last year were like amazing, but I think that was, I
• 1:25:23
  was getting mixed up with nationals, which were also held
• 1:25:26
  in fair, held in Perth. The Perth track Classic was
• 1:25:30
  similar, like kind of a couple of standout names in a couple of
• 1:25:34
  of events. But yeah, the fuck the men's 5.
• 1:25:37
  1000, you see this, it's it's Battle of the West, the WA men
• 1:25:44
  because Matt Ramsden is returning to the track.
• 1:25:49
  Matt Smith, Tom. Moorcroft and Kieran Tibbles
• 1:25:52
  will be chasing them around, as well as John Harris, Jonah
• 1:25:55
  Hannah Canary and Liam Cashin question this.
• 1:26:01
  Is a bronze tour how? I don't mean how are them always
• 1:26:07
  getting in this race? Like if you try and get in a
• 1:26:10
  bronze store over here like you can't.
• 1:26:14
  It's called being geographically.
• 1:26:16
  Isolated. Come do it, I'll get you in.
• 1:26:21
  No, it's gone. Real.
• 1:26:21
  Together. Like you're, you're gonna have
• 1:26:23
  such a good chance to run fast. It's just, yeah, like, like for
• 1:26:27
  Kieran, like 1448 running a Tour bronze.
• 1:26:31
  There's probably a lot faster shape than that.
• 1:26:33
  But yeah, it's crazy. Well, yeah, The thing is, you,
• 1:26:37
  you're. Probably not going to get the
• 1:26:38
  chance to run quick because Rambo's probably just kind of
• 1:26:41
  fucking go off the front by himself.
• 1:26:44
  Is he a fit? Yeah.
• 1:26:47
  I feel like he. Hasn't.
• 1:26:48
  Raced in so long. Does Smitty push him lean
• 1:26:53
  cashing fit 14 low is. Different league to Ramsden,
• 1:27:00
  though, in it, or Ramsden's different league to that.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah, but when? Did Ramzan run 13?
• 1:27:05
  16 He was in Europe last year. And like he didn't run good
• 1:27:10
  compared to like other pros, but he would have been running like
• 1:27:13
  three 37338 maybe. Yeah, I think he's finished his.
• 1:27:19
  1500 days as he he's moving up. Surely he's coach now.
• 1:27:24
  Chief Ram Oh, yeah. The coins make horns.
• 1:27:34
  Dean did. You want to speak about
• 1:27:35
  training? Or.
• 1:27:38
  Kendo, I can give a well like a quick synopsis is that yeah,
• 1:27:43
  yeah, where you're at because. We had the ghost in last week,
• 1:27:46
  didn't we? Yes.
• 1:27:48
  Well, I was late to the party. Was I, I think I missed that.
• 1:27:52
  Just usual. That was the first one on
• 1:27:57
  tonight actually. But.
• 1:28:01
  Yes. So.
• 1:28:03
  I. Didn't.
• 1:28:05
  Run as much this week. Got a scan last Friday and it's
• 1:28:09
  showing a little bit of a little.
• 1:28:12
  Bit of brightness on there. So I haven't seen sports doc
• 1:28:15
  yet, but just to be a bit safe decided to do a bit less
• 1:28:18
  running. The week just gone, things don't
• 1:28:21
  feel too bad so I wouldn't necessarily say it's alarm bells
• 1:28:25
  and I had been running quite a bit of late so didn't feel like
• 1:28:28
  the worst thing to do to back it off for a bit Which.
• 1:28:32
  Was a good opportunity to get. On the bike a lot which was fun
• 1:28:36
  so I can't remember I should have it in front of me, but
• 1:28:40
  between the spin bike and the actual bike I think I would have
• 1:28:43
  done the equivalent of about. Oh, I don't want to get this too
• 1:28:47
  far wrong. Yeah, Tony was.
• 1:28:49
  On on the indoor. Bike.
• 1:28:51
  And I was like, how the hell are you like entertaining that?
• 1:28:55
  Because he said for 100 minutes as well, like over an hour and a
• 1:28:58
  half. And tell them how you're passing
• 1:29:01
  time. You're a dickhead.
• 1:29:07
  Have you played the? Game.
• 1:29:09
  Have you played the game Settlers of Qatar?
• 1:29:12
  No. Well, it's.
• 1:29:13
  A riot. Obviously, so I was playing that
• 1:29:18
  so. It's an opportunity one in
• 1:29:20
  Washington. Wait, this is a good game?
• 1:29:22
  How do? You How did you play this on the
• 1:29:24
  bike? No, there's an.
• 1:29:26
  On your phone. Yeah, there's an app called.
• 1:29:28
  Colonists and you can compete across the world and I've been
• 1:29:32
  grafting my way up to a competitive, competitive Aussie
• 1:29:37
  rank. I need to be ranked in something
• 1:29:41
  that's now they think that's good, Thomas.
• 1:29:42
  Tage just plays hours of sudoku, which are no is that no
• 1:29:46
  solitaire against himself? Hours of solitaire on that.
• 1:29:50
  This is against the World Wide Web.
• 1:29:52
  You know, this is against other people out there fighting for my
• 1:29:56
  SO yes. So I play quite a few games and
• 1:29:58
  that turns out now around 50 minutes goes very fast.
• 1:30:01
  So anyway, between that and then I rode on the road 230 KS last
• 1:30:07
  week and I ran say 20 on so decent amount of cardio leaks
• 1:30:12
  things don't feel too bad. So yeah, hopefully.
• 1:30:16
  I should be able to get in. A bit more running, but I'll see
• 1:30:18
  the Sport Stock on Friday, make sure I'm safe to keep blowing it
• 1:30:22
  up, but in the interim I'll balance a bit of running, a bit
• 1:30:26
  of riding. Hey, good and a bit of gym run.
• 1:30:33
  A bit of gym, yeah. Good segue into your training
• 1:30:36
  week. Yeah.
• 1:30:37
  Thanks SO. I started my week last week with
• 1:30:40
  a bit of gym. Now quick overview of my week.
• 1:30:46
  I think I read 350 KS and ran every other day, but that
• 1:30:50
  started on a Tuesday. So it was only three runs this
• 1:30:54
  week. But they're up to 50 minutes now
• 1:30:56
  and they're starting to feel like the runs feel fine.
• 1:31:00
  And my thought is starting to feel like somewhat fine with it.
• 1:31:04
  So I was consulting my doctor. ChatGPT.
• 1:31:09
  It might sound bored conscious that he always just tells me
• 1:31:12
  what I want to hear, which is dangerous.
• 1:31:13
  So I have to like cross reference some of his answers
• 1:31:17
  sometime. Be like he sure you're not just
• 1:31:19
  tell me what I want to hear Anyway.
• 1:31:22
  So I think just doing this every other day now is pretty
• 1:31:27
  pointless because I'm up to 50 minutes.
• 1:31:30
  I need to start layering in some more frequency.
• 1:31:33
  So the plan this week will be to try a couple of back-to-back
• 1:31:37
  days. Just try.
• 1:31:39
  And inch. Towards that more normal running
• 1:31:42
  routine, get back up towards 5-6 days a week and see what.
• 1:31:46
  We can do with that. Because I don't know, I have
• 1:31:50
  half an eye of trying to do something in like, April, even
• 1:31:55
  if I'm not. I know it won't be fit, but just
• 1:31:58
  fucking get back in the mix and feel it all out again.
• 1:32:02
  Yeah. And like, jump straight into the
• 1:32:04
  marathon. Or work your way up to the
• 1:32:06
  marathon now, remember. That the bridge is 10K that Dean
• 1:32:11
  done last year and won. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:15
  Because it's literally on the. Doorstep.
• 1:32:17
  It was painful to watch that race go by last year.
• 1:32:21
  So like as long? As.
• 1:32:23
  I can get clearance that I'm not physically going to hurt my heel
• 1:32:27
  by running a demoralizing whatever the time would be, then
• 1:32:32
  whatever shape I'm in, I would love to do it just to race
• 1:32:36
  again. You don't.
• 1:32:38
  Want to just get? Comfortable doing some training
• 1:32:40
  first. Well.
• 1:32:43
  I could, but that would be. Disparaging.
• 1:32:47
  Yeah, it would, but I'm. Also, I'm not too, I'm not too
• 1:32:52
  too precious or too proud to like not put a time on the board
• 1:32:57
  that is a little shy. Like, I'll happily go out there
• 1:33:00
  and just run whatever comes out of it because I've just missed
• 1:33:03
  racing so much. But yeah, I don't want to.
• 1:33:07
  I can't be doing anything that would be silly for my body.
• 1:33:09
  So. But yeah, you'd.
• 1:33:11
  Want to at least be doing some threshold?
• 1:33:16
  Yeah. So yeah, the the check boxes or
• 1:33:20
  gases I need to be running be able to run six days a week and
• 1:33:24
  also be doing sessions as part of that week prior to thinking
• 1:33:29
  about racing. So we shall see.
• 1:33:30
  It's 8 weeks away, going to try and inch towards it otherwise.
• 1:33:36
  On one of my rides this week it was actually on on my birthday
• 1:33:39
  morning. I was riding out along the swan
• 1:33:42
  I seen a girl had literally shit herself.
• 1:33:48
  How did you it? Could have just been she could
• 1:33:51
  have just sat on some chocolate and then on a yoga pants for a
• 1:33:55
  yoga class. She.
• 1:33:56
  Then. She was walking alongside the
• 1:33:59
  river in running a tire and like holding her stomach like this
• 1:34:03
  and it was like all down her legs and I was just going past
• 1:34:06
  like. And then I spent the rest of
• 1:34:10
  the. Ride just thinking like what?
• 1:34:12
  What would you do if that was you?
• 1:34:14
  Like it was commute hour as well.
• 1:34:16
  It's on like the busy Rd. there, isn't it?
• 1:34:18
  Cars are just flying past and she's just what?
• 1:34:20
  Like she's so isolated she can't go anywhere.
• 1:34:24
  Like what the hell do you do? She's covered in shit.
• 1:34:27
  Jump in the river. Literally.
• 1:34:32
  Did you offer that? My worst.
• 1:34:33
  Time. Get her a towel.
• 1:34:35
  Or something. I don't know, I just.
• 1:34:39
  Ashamedly just cycled off like you should lock your top and
• 1:34:43
  give. It to her let her tied around
• 1:34:45
  her waist. Chivalry.
• 1:34:47
  Yeah, it's dead. Got the red girls.
• 1:34:50
  Yeah, it comes. Did you, I didn't.
• 1:34:57
  Given that you've been happy to share about you, did you share
• 1:35:00
  about was it? Was it this sort of image that
• 1:35:03
  you now that you've been riding a bit more, you got that extra?
• 1:35:07
  Mass, don't you? Run that the one that.
• 1:35:09
  Went in the group chat. Well, now.
• 1:35:12
  Wasn't. There a bit of.
• 1:35:13
  Chat didn't didn't Becky mention oh she was trying to bag?
• 1:35:17
  Me out to you and people at the mail wasn't she that I would
• 1:35:20
  like flex in the mirror and stuff, but apparently I.
• 1:35:24
  Think, I think we all. Do a bit of that, don't we?
• 1:35:27
  And I think. So.
• 1:35:30
  No, that's just you. Ryan.
• 1:35:36
  That's. Going to be on Patreon for.
• 1:35:44
  She's. Just trying to do me.
• 1:35:45
  Dirty, but yeah, that nothing else to report on the week.
• 1:35:51
  So this week I'm just going to try and run about four times
• 1:35:55
  couple of backs of backs and then see how we get on.
• 1:35:58
  Basically Chat GPTS tell me stop being so fearful.
• 1:36:00
  I need to break away from the mold of every other day.
• 1:36:04
  Sorry, Steve. Or chat.
• 1:36:05
  JBT Well, Steve's. Almost discharged me now.
• 1:36:08
  We didn't even book a follow up and I think he's like, mate,
• 1:36:11
  I've got you up to an hour. Be free.
• 1:36:14
  When do you start putting? Sessions.
• 1:36:16
  In. After the frequency.
• 1:36:19
  Is back as in like once I'm running 6 * a week, an hour or
• 1:36:23
  whatever it might be, then you can do intensity, which would be
• 1:36:28
  on the graphs and well, strides needs to come before any
• 1:36:31
  intensity, so there's kind. Of clash to jump through.
• 1:36:36
  Start to. Think about.
• 1:36:37
  How it might look at least. That's good.
• 1:36:42
  That's what you want. But yeah, any anyone.
• 1:36:45
  Looking to break 40 minutes of bridges.
• 1:36:48
  I might be a scalp up for grabs. Double trouble, do you know, I
• 1:36:53
  think. You've put something on the
• 1:36:55
  agenda, Yeah, we've spoken about.
• 1:36:57
  This before. But about certain course
• 1:37:00
  certification of obviously we've spoken about and I might get
• 1:37:04
  them slightly wrong, but OMITU is that.
• 1:37:08
  The official. Marathon something come to chip
• 1:37:11
  time page and like the fantastic work they do in the community
• 1:37:17
  and, you know, making sure that people's times are respected.
• 1:37:21
  And my gripe? So we have so Perth, there's a
• 1:37:25
  race down around the geograph Bay, around the wine region
• 1:37:30
  South of Perth, about 3 hours South of Perth in a town called
• 1:37:33
  Busselton there's. A5.
• 1:37:36
  K10K21K and more in more recent times a marathon event and this
• 1:37:41
  event is not a heap of road running events this time of year
• 1:37:45
  in Perth. A lot of it's just track races
• 1:37:48
  and it's very limited quality racing and because it's South of
• 1:37:51
  Perth, because it's down South, it's cooler and so it's and it's
• 1:37:55
  along the foreshore and it's pretty close to being.
• 1:37:58
  Pancake. Flat, really nice event and they
• 1:38:02
  have a lot going for it and it's had a lot of people get behind
• 1:38:04
  it for a number of years and the race sells out within a few days
• 1:38:08
  of opening because it's quite popular.
• 1:38:11
  Yet despite all of these things going for it, they refused to
• 1:38:14
  certify the race and that upsets.
• 1:38:18
  Me because? You can see the guys.
• 1:38:21
  So a few guys we know. So for example, say Sota, he he
• 1:38:28
  posted his result on Strava and he ran just under 42.2 KS.
• 1:38:33
  And it's absolutely not a reflection on him.
• 1:38:35
  He's running the race. But like imagine all of the
• 1:38:39
  people that did the marathon and then you finish your marathon
• 1:38:43
  and then you don't see the marathon on your watch.
• 1:38:46
  Like you're just short of the marathon and it's like it's a
• 1:38:48
  few 100 meters like these. The the event is putting on a
• 1:38:52
  proper distances but they don't get it right.
• 1:38:57
  But how do we know the? Satellite.
• 1:38:59
  From the watch is enough and the marathon actually is correct
• 1:39:02
  because I've been. To this race that many.
• 1:39:04
  Times it had 9.9 something on my like they're just notoriously
• 1:39:09
  just that little bit short often.
• 1:39:13
  And if they did, and I've I've emailed the event in the past,
• 1:39:17
  offer to certify to organize certification or pay for
• 1:39:20
  certification that said no. And so like it's more a
• 1:39:23
  reflection of the event organizers than it is the
• 1:39:26
  capacity to have the race efficiently organized and
• 1:39:30
  consistently year on year, I see the same thing pop up.
• 1:39:33
  People go down to this race and at least one of the distances is
• 1:39:36
  noticeably short or not quite not quite full distance.
• 1:39:43
  Like and you know how they work. You know how those watchers
• 1:39:47
  read? They don't read, Sure.
• 1:39:49
  They always show. Show me.
• 1:39:51
  Show me an official where there's an officially distance
• 1:39:54
  race and it's red short and I'll show you 100.
• 1:39:57
  Going in the. Other way like it's very very
• 1:40:00
  rare whereas. You.
• 1:40:01
  Consistently can find short races for the 5/10/21 and full
• 1:40:06
  marathon down at this event. I think it's just such a shame
• 1:40:09
  because like, the e-mail that I got back when I asked them back
• 1:40:12
  in the day was that it wasn't for the benefit of all athletes,
• 1:40:14
  like certifying the race, but like, don't.
• 1:40:17
  You want. To when you finish the race.
• 1:40:19
  I've got a so a friend at work, he trained up for this marathon,
• 1:40:22
  ran 248 or something like that big or 247, ran a huge PB, like
• 1:40:26
  something he should be really proud of.
• 1:40:27
  But imagine you've done all that and you're just like 100 meters
• 1:40:30
  shy of the actual distance. Like fucks sake.
• 1:40:34
  So just tilt me. Well, The thing is as well.
• 1:40:36
  As as the runner, as the athletes, you'd be so conflicted
• 1:40:40
  because you're like, well, I haven't run a short race.
• 1:40:43
  The race is presented itself short.
• 1:40:45
  So you like do I've just ran APB but have a run APB.
• 1:40:50
  Like you wouldn't know how to feel about your own performance,
• 1:40:53
  which is bizarre. You like should be able to like
• 1:40:56
  proudly shout about your PB and be 100% clear on that.
• 1:41:01
  And the second part is then if you run APB, what was on a short
• 1:41:06
  course, that actually makes it harder for you to break that PB
• 1:41:11
  next time because you've actually got to run the full
• 1:41:13
  distance. Yeah.
• 1:41:16
  Yeah, I've stopped going going to it the last few years because
• 1:41:19
  I just struggled to reconcile logging yourself on a course
• 1:41:23
  that maybe you can't compare to other courses and Lyle and said
• 1:41:27
  like maybe it doesn't matter, all courses are slightly
• 1:41:29
  different rather there's all features to them.
• 1:41:31
  So probably just need to get over it, but just upsets me that
• 1:41:35
  they don't go to the trouble of certifying it because it's such
• 1:41:37
  a great event otherwise. Well, it seems like in some.
• 1:41:41
  Circles. It's perhaps widely known that
• 1:41:46
  the races are short and are not certified, but if you weren't
• 1:41:50
  Privy to that information. Otherwise you just go on see
• 1:41:54
  like 1/2 marathon or a 10K hot or a marathon in like a nice
• 1:41:58
  area. I think weekend away I'll go
• 1:42:00
  down, run that race, get myself a nice PB and you would you
• 1:42:04
  would potentially walk away from it all not knowing that your
• 1:42:06
  time. For like a major.
• 1:42:10
  Or anything. It's not going to count, Yeah.
• 1:42:13
  And that's what I emailed. Them saying like it'd be nice
• 1:42:15
  just for people trying to run qualifying things that you know,
• 1:42:19
  and because my there's so many races around Perth certified,
• 1:42:22
  which is really good. There's some wonderful people
• 1:42:24
  that do it for for local event. Organizers so.
• 1:42:28
  It's just such a shame that people don't get it for this
• 1:42:31
  one. And I just feel bad for all the
• 1:42:32
  people that may walk away after putting in all that hard work
• 1:42:36
  feeling a little bit, you know, empty.
• 1:42:39
  Hopefully they're not aware and they don't realize how much does
• 1:42:43
  it. Cost to enter.
• 1:42:44
  This race, like is there a good prize money at it?
• 1:42:47
  Like, where's the money going? No, not like not.
• 1:42:50
  I I don't know when I used to do is maybe like 250 bucks to win
• 1:42:54
  the half before that the marathon.
• 1:42:57
  So not about not much because it costs like eighty 100 bucks to
• 1:42:59
  enter. So and it sells out.
• 1:43:02
  So there's hundreds of it's there's not like it's a
• 1:43:04
  financial thing. I think a lot of it goes to the
• 1:43:06
  Bunbury Bustleton Runners Club, but I would say it would be
• 1:43:10
  they'd be very cash flow positive because like.
• 1:43:15
  It's a pretty flat course, isn't it?
• 1:43:17
  Like you, if actually was certified, you could run pretty
• 1:43:19
  fast down there. Oh shit, yeah.
• 1:43:22
  Yeah, it's great. Like that's.
• 1:43:25
  I know, just certify. That's why I Madam, I know it.
• 1:43:29
  Tilts me so hard. It's so stupid.
• 1:43:32
  And. I like literally, it's not hard
• 1:43:34
  for them to do. I can see it in the future.
• 1:43:37
  The easy. Double bustleton.
• 1:43:39
  Yeah, we just create our own. And I think simpler.
• 1:43:46
  And it's on footpath. It's not.
• 1:43:47
  It's not like they're closing a heap of roads and it's very
• 1:43:49
  expensive. Anyway, thanks for piping up for
• 1:43:57
  your. Double trouble.
• 1:43:59
  First one in a while. Yeah, usually.
• 1:44:01
  Sits on the fans, don't they? Gotta really get him.
• 1:44:07
  Got him this weekend. Maybe we'll we could start
• 1:44:10
  working in partnership with them to get them fired up even more.
• 1:44:14
  Forward you the e-mail. If you can, you slide into their
• 1:44:18
  DMS. They're on Instagram, right?
• 1:44:21
  I'm only good at making. Relationships, not breaking
• 1:44:24
  them. Put that one behind the pie
• 1:44:31
  wall. A few.
• 1:44:33
  Episodes on that. Speaking of which.
• 1:44:35
  I did have a double trouble myself and so he was going to
• 1:44:39
  say he had a protein. Shake.
• 1:44:42
  I didn't know unfortunately. We don't have any of them.
• 1:44:46
  The double trouble I had was, again, people might be unaware
• 1:44:51
  that there's kind of like unwritten rules.
• 1:44:53
  Or well, for the pros, there's certainly written rules around
• 1:44:56
  what you can and can't wear if you're doing a track race.
• 1:45:00
  And. My personal integrity wouldn't
• 1:45:03
  allow me to run a track race, or at least like a PB attempt in a
• 1:45:09
  pair of super shoes. That's.
• 1:45:11
  Just not for people. To be mindful of in the summer
• 1:45:14
  track season. Even.
• 1:45:19
  No, no, this is Yeah. Croaks quite shorts.
• 1:45:28
  Quite shorts. Fair play to him, my guy.
• 1:45:33
  Yeah. No, you got you.
• 1:45:34
  Yeah. Confident.
• 1:45:35
  If you if you have a very, very degree.
• 1:45:39
  Weather White. Shorts, you must be feeling,
• 1:45:42
  Yeah, happy with your place in life.
• 1:45:47
  He. He too.
• 1:45:48
  Has he been friends with those winters?
• 1:45:51
  Olympics. Anyone on the Winter Olympics?
• 1:45:53
  Programme, yeah, but look in defensive super shoes on the
• 1:46:00
  track. I've done it.
• 1:46:02
  In the post super. Shoot era, but I wouldn't be
• 1:46:05
  looking to claim my time. So like Coker Park, you know the
• 1:46:09
  John Gilmore, they let you, it's a 10K track race in Perth.
• 1:46:12
  They let you wear super shoes on that and I'll do it so as to
• 1:46:17
  stop my legs from getting matched up from 25 laps around
• 1:46:20
  the track. But yes, you wouldn't want to
• 1:46:24
  claim your time anywhere. You just do it for fitness.
• 1:46:27
  I mean, in fairness. Yeah, I would not fancy 25 laps
• 1:46:30
  in a pair of spikes. I don't think my body would hold
• 1:46:33
  up, to be honest. Yeah.
• 1:46:35
  Well, that that's me. Helping back on the fence, but
• 1:46:38
  now you you get stuck in right? Well, yeah.
• 1:46:41
  I wouldn't be. Wouldn't be doing it for middle
• 1:46:44
  to short distance, but. Say Lovey.
• 1:46:50
  Oh, I. Actually, I didn't even.
• 1:46:51
  Wear Spike. I didn't wear socks in my 1500
• 1:46:54
  meters. I was embrace it because I
• 1:46:55
  remember there's a clip of Jacob where it's like real runners
• 1:46:58
  don't wear socks with spikes or something.
• 1:47:00
  So for 1500 I was like, OK, it's not long enough to get blisters
• 1:47:03
  so I won't wear them. And it's actually nice.
• 1:47:06
  The air going in between your toes, it's actually really nice.
• 1:47:09
  I'd recommend that. Did I tell you?
• 1:47:12
  This has brought me on stuff a couple of times, doing silly
• 1:47:15
  things like this, but like, you know, rice take thumbs around
• 1:47:18
  you just searching for any sort of advantage you can find.
• 1:47:21
  And it was raining for the Gold Coast half.
• 1:47:24
  When was that 20? 20. 4 maybe it's pissing wet and
• 1:47:28
  I was like, I don't want my socks to weigh me down so I
• 1:47:30
  decided to not wear socks for that and I got the biggest
• 1:47:33
  blisters. Yeah, stupid.
• 1:47:37
  It's awful it. Couldn't run then.
• 1:47:38
  Light it's so dumb for like the socks are so thin anyway play
• 1:47:43
  waste of time. Did you get?
• 1:47:45
  A PB out of it. Yeah.
• 1:47:49
  Oh, there you go. Just thought.
• 1:47:53
  Yeah, but wouldn't recommend it for that would.
• 1:47:58
  Recommend it for the track that often.
• 1:47:59
  Don't wear socks on. Yeah, with track spikes.
• 1:48:03
  Yeah, that, Jacob. Video is a bit.
• 1:48:04
  Infamous, isn't it? I think it sticks in everyone's
• 1:48:06
  mind that because he was basically vilifying anyone who
• 1:48:09
  does wear socks. Like, for what?
• 1:48:11
  A Muppet Soft, Yeah. You don't want to be on the
• 1:48:15
  wrong side of the. Yacob the King.
• 1:48:20
  Like guys, I reckon that's. US.
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  Good chat, Yeah, good one, not a.
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  Long one I. Hope you get.
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  Over the seven. Tears, boys.
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  Praying yeah, I'll let you I'll let you know how you get on
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  tonight with the jarg hopefully pirates under control and I can
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  just yeah get but I feel better I'm on this nasal tablets it's
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  basically doping for my nasals for my what's what is.
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  It you're. Honest.
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  Sinus is, yeah, it's sinus open. Basically so I'm yeah, I'm
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  hoping that clears them and them makes me breathe for my nose.
• 1:48:59
  Oh actually gets him like without nose tape.
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  I just. Yeah, no.
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  You guys are not doing to. Put it in with your.
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  Singlets, yeah. Oh, that might.
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  Be a go you. Know just go to the chemist
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  they. Have it at the chemist.
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  Breaks right, It's gone against. Going against all my morals but
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  yeah, might have to be done. Open up them Airways.
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  Nomio if. Like.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I. Reckon.
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  Everyone's turned off by now, but I was thinking in in next
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  week's episode at the end, the outro might be that the song the
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  theme wrote composed for us. Any song.
• 1:49:45
  He's still no. The.
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  The our theme tune the AI song. Yeah, that's good.
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  Just to reward people who stayed till the end.
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  Yeah, it'll only be. Them that listen.
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  Them and you run. All right.
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  Speak to you next. Week.
• 1:50:05
  Go on, chatty boys. Good.
• 1:50:06
  Dog, take it easy.