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Justice for Chase: The man Nancy grilled about vet's disappearance pleads guilty & heads to prison · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Chase Massner is an a
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  Speaker 1: Rock War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife pulled us,
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  Speaker 1: she dropped him off at a quick trip in Cobtown.
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  Speaker 1: His family says he was last seen at a friend's
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  Speaker 1: house in Kennesaw three years ago. It's like he vanished
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  Speaker 1: from that home, not to be seen or heard from again.
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  Speaker 1: Despite some intense searching, a few clues have been found.
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  Speaker 1: We have absolutely no answers at all. Please. They're trying
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  Speaker 1: to determine if remains found in the backyard of those
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  Speaker 1: of an Army veteran who has been missing out for
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  Speaker 1: three years. This is the home where three years ago,
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  Speaker 1: twenty six year old Chase Master was last seen. The
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  Speaker 1: search continues for a man wanted in connection with the
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  Speaker 1: disappearance and now death of a young Cobb County father
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  Speaker 1: and veteran. But it was the last person to see
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  Speaker 1: Massner alive, and he is now charged with concealing a death.
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  Speaker 1: You have to question why somebody would make the decision
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden to run A beloved son, a husband,
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  Speaker 1: a father goes missing. At the top it all off,
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  Speaker 1: a United States veteran in the prime of his life.
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  Speaker 1: Chase Masner goes missing, but in the last hours breaking
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  Speaker 1: news in the Chase Masner death and disappearance. I Nancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: this is crime stories. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Oh how we investigated the disappearance of Chase Masner In
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  Speaker 1: the last hours A man in court Brad Clement that
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  Speaker 1: I actually helped track down and bang on his door
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  Speaker 1: in an overnight motel to get answers. Clement appearing in court,
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  Speaker 1: but still no answers. Listen to this gas back swearing ester,
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  Speaker 1: Please raise right hand. Invested your ability to swear? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Having stay said you believe us? Yes versus North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: you wished when you were set to school. Yes, But
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  Speaker 1: how did we get here? Chase Masner missing for years,
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  Speaker 1: years go by his wife wondering did he just leave me?
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  Speaker 1: Did he abandon me and his own children. I recall
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  Speaker 1: sitting in the living room and dining room with his
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  Speaker 1: mother as she broke down in tears, going through family albums,
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  Speaker 1: wondering what happened to her son. Abu beautiful young boy.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way his mom describes him. That beautiful boy
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  Speaker 1: turned into a young man that everyone loved that went
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  Speaker 1: off to fight for our country. An Iraqi war vette
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  Speaker 1: comes home to his lovely wife, absolutely lovely. I wish
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  Speaker 1: you could meet her like I did Amanda and their
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  Speaker 1: little girls, only to meet with what he escaped in Iraq,
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  Speaker 1: and that is death. Chase. His remains were found behind
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  Speaker 1: a so called friend's home. This young guy, Chase Masner,
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  Speaker 1: an Iraqi war vette, went missing March twenty seven. After
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  Speaker 1: a search which many people found questionable. It seemed as
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  Speaker 1: if law enforcement was not taking his disappearance seriously, telling
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  Speaker 1: his mother they think he just dropped off the grid.
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  Speaker 1: The people that knew him the best knew that was
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  Speaker 1: not true and that somehow he had met foul play.
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  Speaker 1: And after I spoke to his mother and his wife, Amanda,
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  Speaker 1: I knew for sure Chase didn't just go missing. He
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  Speaker 1: just didn't walk away deciding never to come back. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: the first several weeks, they were not actively investigating because,
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  Speaker 1: in their words, it's not a crime to be missing.
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  Speaker 1: If he wanted to walk away, it's not a crime.
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  Speaker 1: Can you take me back to the day that Chase
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  Speaker 1: went missing? What happened? Chase was at our house. He
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  Speaker 1: was staying with us for a few days and spoke
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  Speaker 1: with Amanda his wife on the phone. Now, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: he's married with two little girls at this time, two
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  Speaker 1: little little girls. So he's fighting with Amanda, and he
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  Speaker 1: came to stay at your house for a few days,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Okay? Then what he had been with us
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  Speaker 1: for three days and he had the next two days
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  Speaker 1: off work, and Amanda had asked him to go back
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  Speaker 1: to their house for those two days. And she came
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  Speaker 1: to pick him up from the house, and they were
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  Speaker 1: arguing already at the pickup, before even on the phone,
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  Speaker 1: before the pickup. Why over what you know? I don't
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  Speaker 1: what's that money? I didn't know they were having problems
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  Speaker 1: until Amanda ask me if Chase could come and spend
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  Speaker 1: some time at our house so they could have pre space. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So he finally lands a job at quick Drip, but
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  Speaker 1: he was having a hard time. So landing that job
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  Speaker 1: and going to it on a regular basis and assimilating
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  Speaker 1: was kind of a triumph, right, yes, okay? So they
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  Speaker 1: leave together. Where were the babies? The girls in the car? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he leaves. When did you hear from him next? Never?
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  Speaker 1: That was it? When he left? What do you remember
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  Speaker 1: about him leaving? What little thing do you remember, he
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  Speaker 1: was just so frustrated. That's the only word I can
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  Speaker 1: come up with, is frustrated. It was he was very irritated, agitated,
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  Speaker 1: and just about what this could be important. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think he was agitated about whatever was going on
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  Speaker 1: in their marriage? Was it that or was it just
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  Speaker 1: life in general or the argument he was having with Amanda.
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  Speaker 1: I really think it was just what was going on
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  Speaker 1: between he and Amanda. Okay, well, they've all been there.
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  Speaker 1: So he leaves her on six thirty that evening three
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, March twenty six, and you never saw him again,
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  Speaker 1: and you never spoke to him again. Did you ever
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  Speaker 1: text with him again? No? I text him, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get any response. That's significant. When did you text him?
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  Speaker 1: Not until the next day. Is that normal for him
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  Speaker 1: to have gone the whole night without texting or anything. Well, yes, because,
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  Speaker 1: like I told you before, I just assumed they went home. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we're working things out, So I didn't try to
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  Speaker 1: call him or text him that night. The next day, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the last thing a married couple needs is the mother
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  Speaker 1: in law butting in. Okay, so he left and for
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  Speaker 1: all you knew, the girls they went out to dinner
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  Speaker 1: or went home, and you just assumed no news is
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  Speaker 1: good news, right, Okay, So next day, what happens? Next day?
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  Speaker 1: I got just proceeded as a normal day, and I
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  Speaker 1: got a text from Amanda later in the afternoon. Did
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  Speaker 1: you text him that day? Not until after I heard
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  Speaker 1: from a man? Okay, what did she say? She said,
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that Chase did
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  Speaker 1: not come home with me last night. I may really
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't just hold it together for five or six
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  Speaker 1: hours until they fell asleep, so something went bad there.
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  Speaker 1: Did she tell you what? No, she didn't give me
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  Speaker 1: any details, because she told me that she took Chase
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  Speaker 1: to Brad's house between eight and nine the night of
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  Speaker 1: three twenty six. She took him to breath so they
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  Speaker 1: made it for about three hours. Yes, got into an argument.
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  Speaker 1: She took him to Brad's. So you texted him at
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  Speaker 1: what time that day? Three twenty seven? Well, as soon
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  Speaker 1: as I found out that Chase was not with Amanda.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as I got that text, I started calling
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  Speaker 1: his phone. Sent Thursday March twenty seven, at three thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven pm her beby, Will you please give me a call?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the phone that you're just sleeping. She is totally okay,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean love and this message. Chase Masner missing
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  Speaker 1: for years, years go by his wife wondering did he
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  Speaker 1: just leave me? Did he abandon me and his own children.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to what police had to say, and I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: with this guy just bagged it. I mean he was
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  Speaker 1: arguing with Amanda. I mean, here's the deal. He had
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  Speaker 1: been in Iraqi, came home. He could not reassimilate to
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  Speaker 1: civilian life. He had a wife and two beautiful baby
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  Speaker 1: girls that he had to support. He couldn't find the
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  Speaker 1: job he wanted. He finally just took a job at
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  Speaker 1: Quick Trip. This guy was making money for his family.
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  Speaker 1: He was coming home at night to his wife and
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  Speaker 1: his children. All couples argue, and that night everything went sideways.
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  Speaker 1: And what's interesting Trey with me is Amanda's mom. Is
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  Speaker 1: that Brad Clement, who by his own admission, was the
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  Speaker 1: last one to be known with Chase, actually tried to
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  Speaker 1: point the finger at Amanda and told us what he
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  Speaker 1: really thought happened was that Amanda was quote blowing up
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  Speaker 1: Chase his cell phone that night to come back. And
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  Speaker 1: he thought the next day, while he ran errands. Then
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  Speaker 1: Amanda came and picked him up and did away with him,
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  Speaker 1: and he was never seen again. Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadena is with me right now. When I call
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  Speaker 1: and reported Chase missing and Amanda came into the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the report, she actually said that she took Chase
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  Speaker 1: to Brad's house and that she dropped Chase off at
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  Speaker 1: quick trip. You know what, I used to have an
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  Speaker 1: old judge. He was eighty four years old on the
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  Speaker 1: bench and he was dead set on proving everybody he
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  Speaker 1: was the fittest judge in the courthouse, which he was,
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  Speaker 1: I might add, and he would tell every jury it
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  Speaker 1: is your duty to make all witnesses speak the truth
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  Speaker 1: and impu perjury on no one, which means different witnesses
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  Speaker 1: can see or hear are different things. They can all
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  Speaker 1: be telling the truth in one way or the other.
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  Speaker 1: So that could have been true for all I know,
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  Speaker 1: she took him to Brad's house and he wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: and then dropped him a quick trip or whatever. It
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  Speaker 1: could very well be that way. The fact is Brad
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  Speaker 1: says they meant a quick trip, and she says she
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  Speaker 1: left him with Brad, And we know we believe anyway
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  Speaker 1: that he was with Brad from that point on. So
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  Speaker 1: quick trip or house? How far did he live? A
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  Speaker 1: quick trip anyway? Two minutes? Okay, So we know that
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  Speaker 1: he was with Brad that afternoon. That night, Yes, by
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  Speaker 1: ten o'clock he was with Brad. Yes, and you never
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  Speaker 1: saw or her from him after that. That was the
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  Speaker 1: last time anyone but Brad saw him that we know of. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadena is with me right now. Also with me
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  Speaker 1: is Daniel Wilkerson from CBS forty six, who has also
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  Speaker 1: been on the story. At Brad's house, he was having
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  Speaker 1: ruthing done. Is that correct? Yes? And did they any
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  Speaker 1: of the rufers ever see him? They're alive. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: do you know? No? I talked to or spoke with
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  Speaker 1: the owner of the roofing company, and he says they
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  Speaker 1: never saw Chase. Would they have? Was he in a
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  Speaker 1: bedroom a sleeping the whole time or what? According to Brad, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he was in a bedroom sleep so they never came
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  Speaker 1: out of the bedroom. According to the roofer no. Now,
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  Speaker 1: were the roofers in the home or outside the home?
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  Speaker 1: They were outside the home primarily they had a barbecue
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  Speaker 1: Brad had a barbecue at some point. Yes, I mean
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  Speaker 1: why I just cut him a check? Why would you
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  Speaker 1: give him a barbecue? Brad says that he invited him
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  Speaker 1: here for a barbecue, and while there, the roofers say
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  Speaker 1: Brad gave them a chore of Brad's home, included the
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  Speaker 1: bedroom They went all over, according to well did they
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  Speaker 1: see Did they see Chase? No, they didn't. I might
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  Speaker 1: even ask why would he give the roofers a tour
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  Speaker 1: of his home? But that's significant. If he gave them
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  Speaker 1: a tour of his home, then you would have expected
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  Speaker 1: him to go in that bedroom. Did the rufers say
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  Speaker 1: he went in the bedrooms? I don't know specifically where
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  Speaker 1: they went. He just said that Brad gave them a
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  Speaker 1: tour of the home, and the roofer said that he
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  Speaker 1: thought that was odd. Well I agree with that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So at that time we have no reason to know
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  Speaker 1: that Chase is dead or alive, or asleep in the
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  Speaker 1: bedroom or gone. So the last time anyone can corroborate
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  Speaker 1: him being alive is that night around nine thirty. Yes, now,
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  Speaker 1: if you take Brad's testimony, you know he saw him,
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  Speaker 1: But as far as more anyone more than Brad. No,
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  Speaker 1: that and a dollar won't even buy me a gallon
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  Speaker 1: of gas. Okay, So let's just move from we know
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  Speaker 1: he's alive around ten o'clock that night. All right. Let
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  Speaker 1: me ask you this. If he went to Great Trip,
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  Speaker 1: it's my understanding that he was in Quick Trip for
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  Speaker 1: about thirty minutes. Is that true, Stephanie, that's what I've heard, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: heard from Brat. That's Brat Brats. That's the morning okay,
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  Speaker 1: so well, you know what, that can kind of be
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  Speaker 1: corroborated because a mana says she left him there. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: what we're trying to do is nail down a timeline.
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  Speaker 1: This is what is what goes into nailing down a
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  Speaker 1: timeline as best as possible. If we've got him alive
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  Speaker 1: at that time. Who's the police authority, Cobb County, Cob County.
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  Speaker 1: What are they saying about surveillance video at Quick Trip?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you might as well be in NASA or
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  Speaker 1: or or a Vegas casino because Quick Trip is checked
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  Speaker 1: out with surveillance typically, So what about that? Cob hasn't
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  Speaker 1: said anything for me. They've said more to Stephanie, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't believe they have any surveillance and they
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  Speaker 1: tried to get it or just drop the ball. I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe they tried to get it. No, now we
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  Speaker 1: don't know for sure, or that Cobb didn't pull it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know for sure. But the first several weeks
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  Speaker 1: they were not actively investigating because, in their words, it's
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  Speaker 1: not a crime to be missing. If he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: walk away, it's not a crime. Okay, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Had he ever in his life gone this long without
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  Speaker 1: texting you were calling you ever? Never? And you know
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  Speaker 1: what I say, if you don't know a horse, look
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  Speaker 1: at his track record. So what somebody has done in
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  Speaker 1: the past, they're likely to do again. If he had
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  Speaker 1: gone his whole lot texting you and calling you every
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  Speaker 1: what day, other day, what all the time, then why
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  Speaker 1: would he quit that day? Right? It's say to h
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  Speaker 1: L with my mother. So I don't believe that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't need that. FRD tells me that he told Chase that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you can come with me. I'm building a computer. We'll
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  Speaker 1: go back to my house. You can watch me build
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  Speaker 1: a computer, he said. They went back to the house,
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  Speaker 1: they went up in Brad's room. When he got there,
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  Speaker 1: Chase league on Brad's bed. Brad was on the floor
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  Speaker 1: with the computer. He said they talk all night, basically
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  Speaker 1: about Chase's relationship with Amanda and his aggrevations. And he
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  Speaker 1: said they end up just falling asleep. That sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster. You're up all night, one of
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  Speaker 1: you may or may not be drinking or doing drugs,
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  Speaker 1: and then suddenly the person goes missing. Have you noticed
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  Speaker 1: that everything goes bad after midnight? I mean really? Okay? So,
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  Speaker 1: and that's confirmed by the people at QT. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then he's never sinned again by anybody other than Brad.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct, now, Stephanie. According to Brad, they stay up
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  Speaker 1: all night working on a computer and yes, talking, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: then what happens? What do we know from Brad? According
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  Speaker 1: to Brad, the roofers arrived around seven o'clock seven am.
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  Speaker 1: Brad says he went down, he let the roofers in,
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  Speaker 1: got them started, or I shouldn't say let him in.
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  Speaker 1: He says that he got the roofers started on the house.
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  Speaker 1: He says he then went back inside and moved Chase
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  Speaker 1: from his room to a guest room because I guess
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  Speaker 1: the area where the roofers were going to be working,
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  Speaker 1: would be right over his bedroom, and he said he
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  Speaker 1: left Chase there. He said that he helped Chase carry
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  Speaker 1: some bags out of his room because I asked him.
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, Chase, could he walk? I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: how did you help him? He said? I picked up
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  Speaker 1: his bags, I helped him to the room, and Chase
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  Speaker 1: fell asleep there. And I guess hour or two transpires,
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  Speaker 1: and Brad goes downstairs. He comes back up, he gets
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  Speaker 1: Chase his phone, and he then leaves. He left a
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  Speaker 1: total twice. One. The first time he left, he Brad says,
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  Speaker 1: was to take a computer to a friend. He said
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  Speaker 1: he came back in the computer that they worked on
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  Speaker 1: all night. Yes, okay, yes, he says. He's trying to
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  Speaker 1: make a little more sense to me. If they stayed
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  Speaker 1: up all night talking, why Chase was still asleep. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't coming, wasn't going to go home to Amanda,
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  Speaker 1: So why not He've been up all night fixating on
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  Speaker 1: his relationship with his wife, so why not sleep it off?
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  Speaker 1: Breaking news in the Chase Masner death and disappearance. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Raised, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us. In the last hours a man in court,
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  Speaker 1: Brad Clement, that I actually helped track down and bang
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  Speaker 1: on his door in an overnight motel to get answers
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  Speaker 1: what happened to this beloved son, husband, and father. The
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  Speaker 1: more we investigated, the more murky the waters became. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're back at square one, Stephanie, because we have to
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  Speaker 1: talk to Brad. That's the missing link here. Now we
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  Speaker 1: know he has refused to polygraph and then stated again
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  Speaker 1: he will take a polygraph. I'm going looking for him, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: armed with nothing but my iPhone, and I am going
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  Speaker 1: to find him. I'm going to ask him what happened.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to see what story he's going to tell me,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll take it from there. But I want to
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  Speaker 1: note from you, as we sit here together right now,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts. I just want another truth. I
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  Speaker 1: want to know what happened to Chase. Do you believe
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  Speaker 1: Chase is still alive? I do not. Now are you
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  Speaker 1: saying that with your heart and your head? Or yes?
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe he's a life. Can you think of
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  Speaker 1: a reason that anyone would have wanted him dead? Not
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  Speaker 1: a single reason? Well, we looked and we looked, and
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  Speaker 1: we searched, and we found the wild card, as I
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  Speaker 1: like to call him, Brad Clements. We found him. I
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  Speaker 1: beat on his door. He opened the door and he
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  Speaker 1: let me in. I want you to hear what he
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  Speaker 1: said when I questioned him, grilling him over an hour
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  Speaker 1: and a half about the disappearance of Chase Masner. Let's
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  Speaker 1: hear what the wild card Brad Clement has to say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, especially after I met Chase's
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  Speaker 1: another yesterday, that about broke my heart. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: been all this time. She still doesn't even know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: She thinks Chase is dead. Do you think he's dead?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I hope that he's not,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: but really I don't know. Like I I've you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I've wondered about it. And you know, the last time
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that I was with him, like I hardly knew him, really,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: like I met him maybe three or four times. I've
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: thoughts been over to their house. No, I've been over
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to their house, like after all this happened, Like I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: went over there to put together a ping pong table
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: or a pool table or something. No, No, never, that
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: was the only time i'd gone over to their house
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: is when um, what's her name, Amanda? Yeah, Amanda called
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and asked me to come over there and like talk
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to her, and I went ever other with my dog,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like you know, talk to her about all this, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like it was kind of, um, kind of odd me
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: being over there, and because you only need her three
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: chise right, and I never really you know, talked to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: just her, and it was, you know, I kept hearing
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: all these you know, mixed things. You know, well, this
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: is later, I guess, like about her and like his
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: friends and stuff, and he made her and his friends.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I don't throw her under the bus or anything, but
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just, you know, I don't are you
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: saying that she'ds up around? I mean that's kind of
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the world. I mean, that's kind of what I thought
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: when I was when I went over there to see
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: her like that, she you know, wanted like I don't know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's just oh yeah, I mean like she was like, well,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: she she called me up and was like, hey, can
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you bring me some pop to like smoke some pot?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Do you want to smoke some pop with me? And
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, I at this point in my life,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I wasn't smoking, and I was like, I think I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: have like a grinder that you could scrape, and she
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, bring it over here. And I was like, okay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: should take it out of a grind and there was
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: like you know, the resin stuff that you could like scrape. Yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And I mean because apparently they smoked like a lot,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: because you know, the whole thing where her um she
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: called up what's like her mother or someone to like
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: help him clean up something in the house. Like they
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: were growing pop plants. You know, they had a bunch
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of pop plants they were growing in the house, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that's why she was like, hey, I needed to come
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: over here and help I clean this up because they
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: were cleaning out all the pop plants before like hops
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: came over there. So that was like a big thing
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: with that. But um, that could be part of the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: reason she doesn't want to talk any more, because she
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be dragged in some way. Yeah, they were.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: She was really like, you know, you know, just I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: guess worried about that, And I mean it's not even
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: not big of a deal. It's like people grow pop
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: plants all the time in the backyard, you know, especially
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: here in the South. But yes, I don't know about that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But okay, I'll just take your word forward. Let's pause
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: for just one moment. I want it clear. This is
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Brad's story. This is his explanation of how he is
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: not involved in the disappearance of Chase Masner. So take
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it with a box of salt, and you be the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: judge now that I want to get to So, I mean, see,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I the thing is just like I hardly knew them,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Like they were good friends. So some my good friends
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: with my friend Alan who lived in the house with me,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and so he told Amanda in them that I like
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: shot shot Heroin into Chase and killed him and put
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this all in their head just to get me in trouble.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Why would you use up here one on somebody else,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and in fact, somebody that I don't even know, you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, why would you do something where there's that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: That's another thing. It's like, I just don't know. Why
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: would you take somebody that you hardly know and then
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: get them high with Heroin where you know people over
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: us all the time, And it's like, okay, what what
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: do you think Chase was on? I don't really think
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it was on much other than pot and alcohol that night.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's good. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, he was trying to get more,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: like and I gave him some cash. I get he
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: was trying to get the crap or thirty milligram roxy pills.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: The that was what everybody was taking. Alan was giving
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: him those sometimes because Alan would take those. And so
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he assumed that I could get him because Alan could
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: get him. And you know, I brought him and you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I was in a motorcycle wreck and I was on
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: those at one point, and you know, so I took
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: him to like that's one of the mannors that picked
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: him up, just to kind of talk to him that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: night and be like, you know, you don't want that,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Like I was in a motorcycle rac man coming off
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of those pills. It's terrible, you know. I mean, And
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I figured I could just you know, hang out with him.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And you know, if you didn't really know him that well,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: why did you let him come to your place? I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: mean because he'd been over there before, Like, I mean,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: he worked at the Quick Trip right down the street
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: from my house. So so what do you think Just
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: take me through what happened that when he goes missing.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it's really not that much like it's like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: everybody says, I like change my story and all this stuff,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but it's like that was like what I did that day,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that wasn't really anything to do
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: with Chase. It was like, you know, I ran about
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: your errands. What I was doing, you know most time
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: when I was fixing up my house, Like he was
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: there that night and then you know, basically left sometime
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: between when I was coming back from the store to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: when I started cooking. Like I mean, he had to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: act like I mean that that's the only logical thing.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So you go on. I think it was March twenty
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: six ish to pick him up at Quick Trip and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it was at nine around. Okay, all right, you pick
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: him up and bring him to your place directly, Ordy,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'll drive around. No, he was good, drect. I mean
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it was right down the street. Okay, So you didn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: drive around to hit to score and nothing like that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You guys, try him eyes. So you go home. What
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: does he do? I mean, we just sit there and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: start talking. We're actually I had a bunch of stuff
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that I was building a computer with so I had
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: him helped me carry a bunch of stuff in and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: then I started building the computer that I was actually
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: not this one, put a different one, and I had
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you know, we just sit there and kind of just
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: talk because we had talked, you know, two or three
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: nights ago about the same thing too, what about him
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and amand of fighting and all this stuff they fight about.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I mean it was like money and stuff like that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: because she wasn't working and h you know, he didn't
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: really talk too much about it, but I just told him,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you know, with it. You know, he was a lucky guy,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's got two beautiful kids, a beautiful wife.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you know, it's okay. What most
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: people want, you know in life is to be you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: fulfilled with those two things. You know how much? You know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: why was he not happy with that? Was it money problems? Dope?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: What was it? I think it was more or less
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: money problems, I mean, because you know, like I said,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I just I really didn't know him that that well,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, it was this was so longer that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: we actually talked about this, like you know, and it
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: was mainly me talking, you know, other than him. You know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: he stay there listening and you know he said that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he was like telling him, Mandy, he was going to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: run off and like sleep in the woods and all
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this stuff. But yeah, you didn't hear that. Uh no, Yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's been another big thing, like go off and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: sleep in the woods. Yeah, and why I wonder if
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: he tried to do that and died. I mean I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: figured I would have fin found him by then, Like
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: what just let me just go off and sleep in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the woods. Did you hear him say that? Yeah? He
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: said it, you know a couple of times, and I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: was like, I said, it was bs and you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: because he wants to go sleep in the wood. Yeah, exactly.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: He went in the other bed room door open, shut,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: door opened. So later that day, you gave the roofers
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a tour of your home? Was he there? Oh see,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't really give them a tour of my home
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: because they've been there before. They told me that you
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: gave him a tour of your home that they showed
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you showed him around your house. I mean I guess,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: but like that will probably at like four o'clock or something,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: four or five o'clock. I mean, I didn't really think
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that was the end of the day. Yeah, when you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: came back from publics, was he there? I didn't check
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: were the bedrooms upstairs? Yeah? So you leave for publics
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: at what time? Gosh, probably twelve ish or something like that,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and he was there for you to leave him, go
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to lows, go to publics, get back, start a fire,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: put the fire out, and go up there. It's probably
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: like two o'clock. I mean he was gone, and he
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was gone, and like he had taken his bag and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: everything that he had, Like he had a little bag
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and then he had his He left his two little
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: balls of beer in my in the closet. But other
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: than that, did you see it coming that he was lading? Yeah?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: He did that every time, Like he would just disappear
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: every time every time that I then he was over
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: my house. He would always ever tell me he was leaving.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: He would have just disappeared. A mandat him up like
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: so that was his m So I wasn't too world
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in disappeared two or three. I mean each time he
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: had been in my house, he always just left. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: would the roofers have been in a position to save life,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they should have Like that's what I thought, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that's why I assumed they just saw him, don't leave,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: because I mean, they were worked there. The house had
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a steep um see at this point when it was
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: really smoky, they had to get down off the roof
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: there because that's you know, And that's why I assumed,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you know, that Chase had heard them running around or whatever.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how that he was sleeping with
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: all that noise. It was just like, do you think
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: everybody's pointing to finger at you? Because I'm the person
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that nobody knows and I'm just like that odd piece
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to see him and his disappearance doesn't make sense, but
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in a way it does. If he kept telling people
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: who's gonna leave and go live in the woods? Are
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you sure about that? Yeah? That was I mean, that's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that's well known too. I'm pretty sure I mean that
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: he said that. I think his mom knows that. In
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the last hours, so called friend bride Clement in court,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: he pleads guilty to concealing the Army vet Chase Masner's death,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: but never gives real answers. You believe that unders North Carolina?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: You wish to store, Yes, but how did we get here? Listen?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Daniel Wilkerson from Channel forty six. Daniel is standing outside
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the medical Examiner's office. Daniel, what happened? I'll tell you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it's been a shock for everyone. Right now, I'm standing
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: outside again the Medical Examiner's office here in Cobb County,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and we think we may get the preliminary results right now.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: They have just told us that they found a body
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: in the backyard of that home in Keenness, Hal They
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: have not made a positive ID as of yet, but
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I was speaking with Chase's mother, Stephanie, late last night
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and she feels that this is Chase. Police had told
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: her something that has made her think that apparently there
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: was something that they found with the body that makes
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: them think that this is in fact Chase Daniel. Right now,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Brad Clement on the run. I don't understand it. If
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: he had spoken at all with a defense attorney, the attorney,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: if he was worth his salt or she was worth
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: her salt that goes in her bread, would have said, look,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we don't know any cause of death. You can probably
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: get off with the disposing of a body. But instead
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: this guy goes on the run. What do we know
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: right now? Where is Brad Clement. Well, the latest coming
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: from my source close to the investigation, says that the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: fugitive unit here in Cobb County. They have searched Brad's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: mother's house and they did not find him. Of course,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: she has a basement in that house. I've been there
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: several times, and so the thought was a general thought
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: was that he may be there. Of Course, her address
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: was listed on his arrest warrant, so they did not
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: need a search warrant to go over there. But I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: just got that news that they searched that house. I've
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: been told by my source that the fugitive unit they
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: know the general area where he is. In their words,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: they say, we are one step behind him right now.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But of course he is not in custody Nancy. Right now,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: we have breaking knees in the search for Chase mast
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: from NBC eleven alive Bastown, handcuffed and in the rain.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: The fugitive accused of covering up the apparent death of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a Cobb County a rock War veteran, was arrested today
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: outside of a Publix. Brad Clement was on the run
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: for six days. Ryan Krueger now joins US live from
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the Cobb County Jail, where Clement is now being held
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: without bond. Last Friday, Clement had told authorities he's going
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to turn himself in for those charges of covering up
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the apparent death of Chase Master. Instead, Clement decided to run.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He didn't get very far. He was arrested just one
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: county over Brad. Clement apparently ditched a dozen three blue
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Honda Civic had warned about. Late last week, car was
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: found at his mother's house. It was this U haul
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that pill say he was driving. Investigators say Clement rented
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the truck under a phony name and then didn't return it.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: On Thursday, acting on a tip the Community Ariff's office
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: is Fugitive Task Force, along with the US Marshals and
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: backup from the Camp County Police, arrested Clement at the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Toco Hills Shopping Center off of North Druid Hills Road.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And this photo you see him face down while it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: pouring down rain. Clement is last person to ever see
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Chase Massner alive three years ago. Family friends tell us
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Massner stayed the night at Clement's home. Fast forward to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: last week, when authorities found human remains buried in the
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: yard of that home. Those remains havn't yet been positively
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: identified as Massner, and it's not clear how the person died.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: All of these arenzers that investigators hope to get to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: as the only suspect in this case is now behind bars.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It's often said that when a case ends in court,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: there's closure for the victims' families. I on a personal level,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: can say there is no closure. There will never be
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: closure for his widow, for his children, for Chase's mother. Listen,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: this is her her words, Judge, My only son is
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: gone forever after March twenty six, twenty fourteen, I like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: to change forever. My only son, Chase Master Say Biden
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: meeting and drove away, never be seen alive again. The
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: last person he saw rag Clement. We searched high low
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: for Chase and maabed and pleaded for answers for almost
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: five years, and still today I experienced agony, turmoil, sleepless nights, nightmares,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and his tacks. Now on many days I could hardly
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: get out of bed. My son was not suicidal. He
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: didn't do this to himself. Who's loving father and husband
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and would have never left his two little girls. He
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: loved life. He was funny, hapy, go lucky and an
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: entertainment and enjoy all who him. I write these words,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: what words cannot begin to explain the torment me and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: my family and Chase his friends have been put through
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: at the hand hands with Brad Plain. Living each day
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: about Chase is a death sentence to me. Someday I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: will see him again. Until then, I ask God for
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: strength you can get through each day and to make
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: my son proud Judges, I tould the cord Um. This
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: had a such an impact on Chase's wife, Mandy, that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: she eventually moved out to West and Um we've got
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: an in depth discussions about the case and about passions
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: with the case of family members and today ye who's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to put my phone today? And I'm authorized to share
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the record that both she and Stefy Chase his mom
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: said that they believe this place the life they do
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: because upon Stace. So we're doing their support. We can
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: only pray they can go on with their lives. Ter
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Clus play raise right, man and invest of your ability
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to swear firm that any testament you should give the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: matter enough thing before discourse being true. Quol None of
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the drinself about the English any one yards M. Fry
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: shawmun correct, Yes, yours you Clanning stays charged in this
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: indictment that I've reference twenty three, one, four six or
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: two counts concealing death of another inmaking laws law enforcement. Um,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: there's a span of years that's cleared in count one
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of the days in this three indictment are crimes and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: heard on in between March twenty, two thousand and fourteen
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: in August twenty first or two thousand and fifteen. Chunter
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: two of the indictment law is a different day equal
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of four two thousand and fourteen and their laws. The
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: discussion that this defendant has lead detect long case the
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: e of Chris Twiggs on that police offers now here
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: in the courtroom and support of this resolution to day Judge,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm about to give you a factional basis people to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: receive a total sentence for fifteen years eight years to serve.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: The balance will be served on probation, but will be
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a fine policable pace in search argers. There's no contact provision.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: The defense is asking that this plea be tendered pursuing
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  Speaker 1: to the decision of North Carolina versus offered and don't
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  Speaker 1: have an objection to that. Part of the agreement that
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  Speaker 1: I have stated that for the record, which was a
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  Speaker 1: component of our discussions, is as the state will not
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  Speaker 1: have any recommendation to the Pearl Award about when at
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  Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,