Latest / The Week in Bible Prophecy / The World Before the Flood | Rick Renner
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Jerry Steerman of Prophecy Watchers, and across the
- 0:13Speaker 2: table from me is an author and, by the way,
- 0:16Speaker 2: a Bible teacher of the first my dude who is
- 0:19Speaker 2: named Thank you, Rick Renner.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be with you. Gary.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Well, Rick, it's going to be good because you've got
- 0:26Speaker 2: a book here and it's right in front of me,
- 0:29Speaker 2: and it's called The World Before the Flood. And when
- 0:32Speaker 2: you first think about that, you know what, I don't
- 0:36Speaker 2: need to know any more than I already know about
- 0:38Speaker 2: the world before the flood, do I? Well, there's a
- 0:42Speaker 2: lot to know about the world before the flood, but
- 0:45Speaker 2: it's not usually taught in church.
- 0:47Speaker 1: And we all grew up in church thinking that we
- 0:49Speaker 1: knew the story of Noah's Ark, that it was no
- 0:51Speaker 1: and a bunch of animals on a bode and then
- 0:53Speaker 1: the rainbow appeared, and that's basically all the people know.
- 0:56Speaker 1: There's a lot to the.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Story, a lot, and it has very very very powerful connotations.
- 1:05Speaker 1: This is significance for us right now. Yeah, very strong.
- 1:09Speaker 2: And let's get into that all right, because I'm sure
- 1:12Speaker 2: that people heard you say that, how can that be?
- 1:15Speaker 1: Can I first tell you where I live? Sure? I
- 1:18Speaker 1: live in Moscow, Russia. And in nineteen ninety one I
- 1:22Speaker 1: was invited to speak in the first above ground Bible
- 1:26Speaker 1: school in the history of the Soviet Union. Really, so
- 1:30Speaker 1: I went, and gary, to be honest, I did not
- 1:32Speaker 1: want to go. I was angry about growing. I did
- 1:35Speaker 1: not want to go to the mission field. I was
- 1:37Speaker 1: busy traveling and teaching. But somebody kind of conned me
- 1:40Speaker 1: into a mission trip. So I got into that school
- 1:44Speaker 1: and looked at two hundred and twenty students, most of
- 1:48Speaker 1: them from families where their fathers and their grandparents had
- 1:52Speaker 1: spent time in prison for their faith, and now they
- 1:54Speaker 1: were there to study the Bible for the first time
- 1:57Speaker 1: in seventy years. And when I stood up to speak
- 2:01Speaker 1: to those students, the first time I opened my Bible
- 2:04Speaker 1: and I heard the Holy spirits say, are you ready
- 2:07Speaker 1: for this?
- 2:08Speaker 2: I'm ready.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Welcome to your new home. I almost fell on the
- 2:12Speaker 1: floor because I knew I heard the Lord speak to me.
- 2:15Speaker 1: And the whole time I taught that session, looking at
- 2:17Speaker 1: those students, I kept thinking, welcome to my new home.
- 2:22Speaker 1: And that is how my family was called to the
- 2:24Speaker 1: Soviet Union, and we actually moved to the Soviet Union
- 2:28Speaker 1: when it was still the Soviet Union.
- 2:31Speaker 2: And you know what my reaction to this is, that's
- 2:35Speaker 2: probably the last place on Earth I would want to
- 2:37Speaker 2: think of myself as going to live permanently, to move
- 2:40Speaker 2: your family, move the family and everything.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And at that time, it was still the bastion of
- 2:44Speaker 1: communism and atheism and deficits. Everywhere. You had to stand
- 2:49Speaker 1: in line to get bread. There was no sugar, there
- 2:52Speaker 1: was no flour, there was no milk, there were no eggs.
- 2:54Speaker 1: I remember thinking where did the chickens go? You couldn't
- 2:58Speaker 1: buy gas for the car. It was in total collapse.
- 3:03Speaker 1: But the hearts were wide open and it was a
- 3:05Speaker 1: prime moment for the Gospel, and we came well, I
- 3:09Speaker 1: cand begin to work.
- 3:10Speaker 2: I can't. I can't let you pass that one up.
- 3:13Speaker 2: The hearts were wide open. Expand on that. But what
- 3:16Speaker 2: are the Russian people like and having come through what
- 3:20Speaker 2: they came through in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Well, the Russian people have a long history of Christianity
- 3:28Speaker 1: because of the Orthodox Church. But when Communism came to power,
- 3:33Speaker 1: Communism was the original woke movement. Ah, when I see
- 3:37Speaker 1: what's happening in America, it is a repeat of what
- 3:40Speaker 1: happened in the Soviet Union. Religion was canceled. If your
- 3:44Speaker 1: narrative was not correct, you would be canceled. And guess
- 3:47Speaker 1: what else carry They began pulling down statues of past
- 3:51Speaker 1: leaders that they no longer approved of. And the Communists
- 3:54Speaker 1: even came up with new vocabulary, brand new vocabulary that
- 3:57Speaker 1: never existed before. They canceled everything in the past. It
- 4:02Speaker 1: was the original woke movement, and they created a world
- 4:06Speaker 1: free of God. And at the end of the Soviet Union,
- 4:11Speaker 1: it was so broken. You know why nobody can pay
- 4:15Speaker 1: for socialism. There is not enough money in the world
- 4:18Speaker 1: to pay for socialism where everything is free. And it
- 4:21Speaker 1: totally collapsed the system. And when our family moved in
- 4:25Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, there was no medications. There were wonderful doctors,
- 4:29Speaker 1: but there were no medications because there was a deficit.
- 4:33Speaker 1: There was very difficult to find bread or just the
- 4:36Speaker 1: most basic products. And when people are desperate, they become
- 4:40Speaker 1: hungry for God. And we moved to the Soviet Union
- 4:45Speaker 1: at the peak of desperation. And when we began to
- 4:48Speaker 1: preach the Gospel, and not just us, but the others
- 4:51Speaker 1: who were coming at that time. People's hearts were wide open.
- 4:56Speaker 1: The Gospel is good news for the poor.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Wow, I am so glad to hear you say. I'm
- 5:02Speaker 2: glad you interrupted what would have been a discussion about
- 5:05Speaker 2: your book. But I really am glad to hear what
- 5:08Speaker 2: you've just said, because I'm looking at America right now.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Oh, America's in trouble.
- 5:13Speaker 2: America's in trouble, going downhill. And because thinking to myself,
- 5:17Speaker 2: what can one do well?
- 5:20Speaker 1: And because history is not really taught anymore like it
- 5:22Speaker 1: used to be taught. Right, these kids in school today,
- 5:25Speaker 1: they don't even understand what socialism is. They think it's
- 5:28Speaker 1: a great idea. They don't understand it doesn't work, and
- 5:31Speaker 1: it has never worked. It is a failed experiment. And
- 5:35Speaker 1: I'm so thankful to God that my wife and I
- 5:38Speaker 1: raised our children during the collapse of the Soviet Union
- 5:43Speaker 1: so that our kids could see with their own eyes
- 5:46Speaker 1: what happens when the world tries to become a socialist
- 5:49Speaker 1: Marxist world. It is total total failure. And it's so
- 5:54Speaker 1: sad to see the West trying to go in that direction.
- 5:57Speaker 2: And it's so clear when you look at it. You
- 6:01Speaker 2: don't have to have any imagination at all to see
- 6:04Speaker 2: that other countries have gone the same way, and look
- 6:06Speaker 2: what's happened to them.
- 6:08Speaker 1: And you know, Gary, now, when we come back to America,
- 6:10Speaker 1: now we come here as visitors because we live overseas.
- 6:15Speaker 1: When I come back to America, we were talking about
- 6:17Speaker 1: this yesterday. We can see the degradation of society taking
- 6:21Speaker 1: place in America. Customer service is a far cry from
- 6:25Speaker 1: what it was thirty years ago. The standard of excellence
- 6:29Speaker 1: is not what it used to be thirty years ago. Yes,
- 6:32Speaker 1: cities are falling into decay. We're talking about the United States,
- 6:37Speaker 1: which used to be the epitome of excellence for the
- 6:40Speaker 1: rest of the world, and we're really seeing a decay
- 6:43Speaker 1: take place in the Western world. And boy, the Gospel
- 6:48Speaker 1: is really necessary.
- 6:49Speaker 2: And you ask, how could this happen? My first thought was, well,
- 6:53Speaker 2: there are those principalities, powers, rulers of darkness in high places.
- 7:00Speaker 1: That's correct.
- 7:00Speaker 2: If the Bible talks about it, they are busy, they
- 7:04Speaker 2: are behind the scenes.
- 7:06Speaker 1: And you know, Paul teaches very clearly that at the
- 7:08Speaker 1: end of the age there's going to be a great
- 7:11Speaker 1: apostasy that's going to take place. You can read about
- 7:14Speaker 1: it in Second Thessalonians, chapter two. It says there's going
- 7:16Speaker 1: to be a falling away, and that Greek word for
- 7:19Speaker 1: falling away, the Greek word up us to see it, yes,
- 7:22Speaker 1: means a stepping away, but is actually the word for
- 7:24Speaker 1: a rebellion, mutiny, or revolt, and it's describing a society
- 7:29Speaker 1: at the end of the age that will try to
- 7:31Speaker 1: throw off everything connected with the law of God. We're
- 7:34Speaker 1: going to go a new way. We're going to be progressives.
- 7:37Speaker 1: That's the term people are now using. We're not going
- 7:40Speaker 1: to go back to the past. We're going to make
- 7:42Speaker 1: a new way forward. And the world is becoming a
- 7:45Speaker 1: lawless place. Lawless does not necessarily mean anarchy and chaos.
- 7:50Speaker 1: It's a world free of law. We don't want to
- 7:53Speaker 1: be bound by what we used to believe. We want
- 7:55Speaker 1: to go a new way.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like a teenager who says, please,
- 8:00Speaker 2: I'd rather do it myself.
- 8:03Speaker 1: And that's what's happening.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And that's what's happening.
- 8:05Speaker 1: And at the end of the age, a lawless world
- 8:08Speaker 1: is going to produce a lawless man, the Antichrist. Well,
- 8:13Speaker 1: and so the world is being primed and prepared for
- 8:16Speaker 1: that moment. That has nothing to do with this book.
- 8:19Speaker 2: I was just looking at your book as you said that.
- 8:21Speaker 2: The title is the World before the Flood, and let's
- 8:25Speaker 2: just tell it like it is. Okay, we are living
- 8:29Speaker 2: right now in the world before the flood? Are we
- 8:32Speaker 2: are at a period in history described in the Bible
- 8:37Speaker 2: in which dark forces have corrupted mankind. They have and
- 8:42Speaker 2: the result will not be beautiful as just as it was
- 8:46Speaker 2: in the days before Noah.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Well, in the days before the flood, entities from the
- 8:51Speaker 1: spirit realm, we're descending into the earth realm and we're
- 8:55Speaker 1: beginning to interact with people. How is that being replicated
- 8:59Speaker 1: in our time today? Well, look around. Just watch the television.
- 9:05Speaker 1: If you go through the menu on TV, it is
- 9:08Speaker 1: program after program after program connected to the occult ghosts, spirits. Yes,
- 9:15Speaker 1: I'm amazed at the plethora of programs about this on
- 9:18Speaker 1: American television.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Propaganda.
- 9:20Speaker 1: It's propaganda, and people are connecting with another realm and
- 9:24Speaker 1: they don't realize the danger of this. And I truly
- 9:28Speaker 1: believe portals are being opened. You know, if you think
- 9:31Speaker 1: about something long enough, it will become your reality.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Well, let's face it, people are looking for portals these days.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Well they are, you know, they're out there with their
- 9:40Speaker 2: cameras after dark and suddenly a little light in the
- 9:43Speaker 2: sky comes down. It's saucer shaped.
- 9:46Speaker 1: That's right.
- 9:46Speaker 2: It's there for about fifteen twenty seconds, or how about
- 9:49Speaker 2: certain in Switzerland the collider. I mean, they've stated very
- 9:54Speaker 2: clearly they're trying to open a portal, and they said
- 9:57Speaker 2: not only should go through, but to see what we'll
- 9:59Speaker 2: come back through from the other side. And they even
- 10:02Speaker 2: had a religious service at its opening they did. It's
- 10:06Speaker 2: quite shocking. So we're living in a day when, just
- 10:09Speaker 2: like in the days before the flood, people were interacting
- 10:12Speaker 2: with spirits, fallen angels. You could say in a certain way,
- 10:17Speaker 2: the days before the flood were a time of diversity,
- 10:21Speaker 2: equality and inclusion, because they just decided they're going to
- 10:24Speaker 2: open their arms to anything that appeared. And when they did,
- 10:29Speaker 2: they begin interacting with a nefarious realm and the result
- 10:33Speaker 2: was the nephelum, which were born of the women in
- 10:35Speaker 2: the days before the flood. And so in the days
- 10:38Speaker 2: and I'm looking here at my Bible.
- 10:42Speaker 1: And that's a very well used bible. I like that.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Well, love this Bible, and I'm hoping to keep it
- 10:50Speaker 2: all the way because it's been with me for a
- 10:53Speaker 2: while now. But we have in Genesis chapter five, the
- 11:00Speaker 2: Book of generations of Adam, and we come right down
- 11:03Speaker 2: through to chapter six, where we have men multiplying on
- 11:08Speaker 2: the face of the earth. That's population of the earth
- 11:10Speaker 2: grows rapidly.
- 11:12Speaker 1: That's also being replicated to.
- 11:13Speaker 2: That's being replicated. You come to verse fourwards as there
- 11:19Speaker 2: were giants in the earth in those days, and there
- 11:24Speaker 2: the story begins there. And by the way, you have
- 11:27Speaker 2: really captured I think what the Bible is saying.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Well, thank you. There's forty four pages of endnotes. That's
- 11:34Speaker 1: a lot.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Wow.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Because this subject is so important. I wanted people to
- 11:38Speaker 1: know this is not fantasy. It is backed up with documentation.
- 11:43Speaker 1: These things really took place, and in some way they
- 11:47Speaker 1: are going to be replicated again between now and the end.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Now, to our audience, I want to put a question
- 11:54Speaker 2: that will kind of take us in a particular direction. Okay,
- 12:00Speaker 2: study this period of time. What does it tell us?
- 12:02Speaker 2: I mean, what can we learn from from re examining
- 12:07Speaker 2: Genesis five and six.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Well, everybody likes to speculate about the future. That's why
- 12:15Speaker 1: people read the horoscope. They want to know what's the
- 12:17Speaker 1: future hold. Yeah, people talk about futurists. They want to
- 12:20Speaker 1: talk about what the future holds. Well, Jesus said in
- 12:23Speaker 1: Matthew twenty four thirty seven, if you want to know
- 12:25Speaker 1: what the future holds, then you have to turn around
- 12:28Speaker 1: to see what was happening in the world before the flood,
- 12:31Speaker 1: because it will be replicated again at the end of
- 12:33Speaker 1: the age. So I understood. If I want to know
- 12:38Speaker 1: what's going to happen, and if I want to help
- 12:39Speaker 1: people be prepared about the future, Jesus said, turn around
- 12:45Speaker 1: and see what was happening in the world before the flood.
- 12:47Speaker 1: And the world before the flood there were fallen angels,
- 12:50Speaker 1: there were giants, and by the way, there were monsters
- 12:53Speaker 1: in the world before the flood. And so if we're
- 12:56Speaker 1: going to have a replication, it means there's going to
- 12:59Speaker 1: be again inter with dark and nefarious forces. There's going
- 13:03Speaker 1: to be monstrous things in the earth, things that should
- 13:06Speaker 1: not be, violations that should not exist. And that's what
- 13:11Speaker 1: we're seeing.
- 13:12Speaker 2: And when we think back to the Greek Roman histories,
- 13:17Speaker 2: they envisioned all these monstrous gods and goddesses.
- 13:22Speaker 1: And that was not imagination, and it was not their imagination. No,
- 13:25Speaker 1: it was not.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Take that idea a little further.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Well, my specialty is Greek in the ancient world, and
- 13:32Speaker 1: in the ancient world, you know, people think, oh, they
- 13:35Speaker 1: just had overactive imaginations. No, no, no, no, no. They
- 13:39Speaker 1: were closer to these events and they remembered these events,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and the ancient world created logic, philosophy, geometry, they created
- 13:48Speaker 1: structures which to this day we don't know how they built.
- 13:52Speaker 1: These were people who were brilliant. They were brilliant, and
- 13:57Speaker 1: they built temples all over the ancient world to these
- 14:01Speaker 1: fallen deities because they believed they were real. They remembered
- 14:05Speaker 1: those events. And if you study ancient mythology, all of
- 14:10Speaker 1: it talks about demigods. A demi god was half angel,
- 14:14Speaker 1: half human, half god, half human, and these were real
- 14:18Speaker 1: creatures that roam the earth in the days before the flood.
- 14:22Speaker 2: To use a New Testament example, there's the story about
- 14:25Speaker 2: Diana of the Ephesians and then the Apostle that's rule
- 14:29Speaker 2: and Diana of the Ephesians was a beautiful statue, huge
- 14:35Speaker 2: and the temple. I've read about how the temple was built,
- 14:39Speaker 2: and Paul came head to head with that system of thought.
- 14:45Speaker 2: That's correct, and it was something that he understood as
- 14:50Speaker 2: having resulted from the fall of man and only that.
- 14:54Speaker 1: But when you read Peter Second Peter, Chapter two, Peter
- 14:58Speaker 1: describes these a that left their first estate and did
- 15:03Speaker 1: the unthinkable. It's very clearly described. Jude describes it. Jude
- 15:09Speaker 1: was the half brother of Jesus, which means the family
- 15:13Speaker 1: of Jesus believed these events were real. Jesus grew up
- 15:17Speaker 1: hearing this story, probably because the Book of Enoch was
- 15:21Speaker 1: the most popular book being read by the Jewish people
- 15:23Speaker 1: in the first century. Isn't that amazing? It is amazing.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Then it disappeared from history until about seventeen seventy three.
- 15:30Speaker 1: It reappeared in Ethiopia, and then they found great portions
- 15:34Speaker 1: of it in the Dead Sea scrolls, and everybody realized
- 15:36Speaker 1: while the book that Enoch is real, and Jude quoted
- 15:40Speaker 1: from it, and Jude talks about that moment when the
- 15:43Speaker 1: angels left their first estate, rebelled against God, did the
- 15:47Speaker 1: unthinkable with women, and God put them in chains of darkness.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Now that's amazing, because angels are made to be creatures
- 15:57Speaker 1: of movement, and God put those angels in chain so
- 16:01Speaker 1: they couldn't move. Angels are creatures of light, God put
- 16:05Speaker 1: them in darkness. It was the most severe punishment for
- 16:08Speaker 1: those angels. And the Bible tells Us and Peter and
- 16:11Speaker 1: Jude they're held there until the time of the great judgment.
- 16:15Speaker 1: And in Greek, the word judgment is the word crisis.
- 16:19Speaker 1: That's literally the pronunciation of the Greek word. It will
- 16:21Speaker 1: be the greatest crisis imaginable for those angels that send
- 16:26Speaker 1: in the days before the flood.
- 16:27Speaker 2: And so to study that period gives us insight into
- 16:31Speaker 2: what's happening right now.
- 16:32Speaker 1: That is correct.
- 16:33Speaker 2: And by the way, having gone through your book, I
- 16:36Speaker 2: haven't fully read it, but I have read the highlights
- 16:39Speaker 2: at this point in time, just so i'd be a
- 16:42Speaker 2: bit prepared for the conversation I'm having with you. And
- 16:46Speaker 2: I have to tell you that I had a dozen
- 16:49Speaker 2: ideas flash across my mind as I looked at your manuscript,
- 16:53Speaker 2: because it was it just reminded me of things that
- 16:56Speaker 2: I don't often think about, and suddenly it all pops
- 17:01Speaker 2: into focus.
- 17:02Speaker 1: You know, there's some people who even believe there's going
- 17:04Speaker 1: to be the reappearance of an aphilom in the period
- 17:07Speaker 1: between now and the coming of Jesus. I can't say that,
- 17:11Speaker 1: but I do believe we're going to see monstrous things.
- 17:14Speaker 1: Monstrous things we already are already are transgenderism, yeah, transhumanism.
- 17:20Speaker 1: We're violating boundaries that were never supposed to be violated,
- 17:25Speaker 1: and many people are doing it just to find out
- 17:27Speaker 1: if we can do it well.
- 17:28Speaker 2: And you see the pictures of the UAPs on television, yes,
- 17:31Speaker 2: being chased by jet fighters and they're real. And then
- 17:36Speaker 2: you hear stories and whole books written about people who
- 17:39Speaker 2: have been quote unquote abducted. That's the word, right, And
- 17:43Speaker 2: when you get abducted, you're up there among these supposed
- 17:47Speaker 2: space creatures, creatures from another galaxy or what we're interdimensional
- 17:53Speaker 2: maybe yeah, maybe interdimensional? And what do they do. They
- 17:58Speaker 2: seem to be tampering with the huge genomest of the time.
- 18:02Speaker 1: That they're trying to interfere with the human.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Deatmas, which takes us right back to the era before Noah.
- 18:08Speaker 1: And that's right. And the Bible tells us that Noah
- 18:12Speaker 1: was blameless in his generation, and that word blameless most
- 18:17Speaker 1: likely has to do with the fact that his DNA
- 18:20Speaker 1: had not been messed with, and it shows us how
- 18:24Speaker 1: widespread this corruption was in the world before the flood.
- 18:27Speaker 1: It looks like Noah and his family were the only
- 18:29Speaker 1: family that was still pure. It was a remnant. Now, Gary,
- 18:33Speaker 1: there's another word that's important. It was a remnant. Do
- 18:37Speaker 1: you know In First Thessalonians four, when the apostle Paul
- 18:41Speaker 1: talks about the rapture of the church I read Greek,
- 18:45Speaker 1: he says those that are alive and remain. And when
- 18:48Speaker 1: you read that in the Greek text, it is verbatim
- 18:51Speaker 1: in Greek, repeated twice in two verses, those who are
- 18:55Speaker 1: alive and remain, those who are alive. I always thought
- 18:58Speaker 1: that meant those that are still a lot when Jesus comes,
- 19:01Speaker 1: But the Greek word really means those that are still
- 19:04Speaker 1: robust and remain. The word remain is the Greek word
- 19:09Speaker 1: for a remnant, and it seems to imply at the
- 19:13Speaker 1: coming of the Lord, there's going to be a remnant
- 19:16Speaker 1: that is still spiritually robust. And that explains what Jesus said,
- 19:21Speaker 1: when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith
- 19:24Speaker 1: on the earth. There's going to be a fake church.
- 19:26Speaker 1: There's going to be a real church. But the real
- 19:29Speaker 1: church may be a lot smaller than what we have thought.
- 19:32Speaker 1: But they're going to be caught up to meet the
- 19:34Speaker 1: Lord in the air. It's going to be a divine
- 19:36Speaker 1: rescue operation.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Wow. You know, you add dimension to what we all know,
- 19:43Speaker 2: all of us who have looked at the church age
- 19:47Speaker 2: and looked at the manuscripts that came out of Paul,
- 19:56Speaker 2: John and Peter and people who couldn't possibly have written
- 20:01Speaker 2: a manuscript like that unless they had been led of
- 20:04Speaker 2: the Lord.
- 20:04Speaker 1: That's right.
- 20:05Speaker 2: And you read about all these things and you try
- 20:08Speaker 2: all your life to put them together so that they
- 20:10Speaker 2: really make sense. So I want to be in the
- 20:13Speaker 2: will of God. I want to do what he wants
- 20:15Speaker 2: me to do. And then you read the Bible, and
- 20:18Speaker 2: we've all had this experience. I think there's no way
- 20:22Speaker 2: I can understand that this is far above me. And
- 20:25Speaker 2: then suddenly you go back, as you have done in
- 20:28Speaker 2: this book, and you look at an era in which
- 20:31Speaker 2: mankind is challenged and God reacts by sending a flood,
- 20:36Speaker 2: and then post flood, man is told to go forth multiplied,
- 20:42Speaker 2: and we have the story of the redemption of man
- 20:47Speaker 2: in spite of everything that the fallen ones attempted to do.
- 20:51Speaker 2: That's correct, and you capture that so well in this book.
- 20:56Speaker 1: You know, this book pulled it all together for me.
- 20:59Speaker 1: I started writing this book because I saw a video
- 21:02Speaker 1: of what was allegedly the ruins of Noah's Ark and
- 21:05Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. I thought it was silly. But
- 21:09Speaker 1: I studied and studied until finally I got my whole
- 21:11Speaker 1: camera crew together and we went to the eastern mountains
- 21:14Speaker 1: of Ararat to look at it myself. And when I
- 21:17Speaker 1: got there, Gary, my skepticism just evaporated. The ruins of
- 21:23Speaker 1: Noah's Ark are really laying on Mount Judy, and that
- 21:27Speaker 1: mountain from ancient times was called the place of the Descent.
- 21:33Speaker 2: There it is.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Is that amazing? And do you know those ruins of
- 21:37Speaker 1: Noah's Ark appeared for the first time in thousands of
- 21:41Speaker 1: years because of an earthquake in May nineteen forty eight. Well,
- 21:45Speaker 1: what else happened in May nineteen forty eight Israel Israel
- 21:51Speaker 1: realpior coincidence, So the arc reappeared, Israel reappeared. These are
- 21:56Speaker 1: two end time phenomena, God saying the end of the
- 21:59Speaker 1: age is right in front of you. And of course
- 22:02Speaker 1: look what's happening in Israel today. Being in the days
- 22:05Speaker 1: before the flood, Noah was building that arc, and we
- 22:09Speaker 1: know from two Peter two eight he was a preacher
- 22:11Speaker 1: of righteousness. He was telling people what was coming. They
- 22:15Speaker 1: ignored him, they mocked him. What Peter says, you'll know
- 22:19Speaker 1: when you sail to the end of the age, because
- 22:22Speaker 1: there will be mockers who will say, where is the
- 22:25Speaker 1: promise of his coming? It is a repeat. And people
- 22:29Speaker 1: today are mocking people like us. They're saying, oh, come on,
- 22:33Speaker 1: this rapture business is crazy. They've been talking about this
- 22:36Speaker 1: for two thousand years. They themselves are a sign that
- 22:40Speaker 1: we've come to the end of the.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Age and the demigods are making another appearance, just as
- 22:45Speaker 2: they did in the days of Noah. That's correct, and
- 22:48Speaker 2: the that's what the Bible says, as it was in
- 22:50Speaker 2: the days of law. That's correct, you know. And you
- 22:53Speaker 2: have to say, wait a minute, is that really true?
- 22:57Speaker 2: Well guess it is.
- 22:58Speaker 1: You know, brother Gary, I'm looking at your Bible, and
- 23:00Speaker 1: your Bible is so well used. The older I get,
- 23:04Speaker 1: the more deeply I fall in love with my Bible.
- 23:07Speaker 1: The purity of the Word of God. There's nothing that
- 23:10Speaker 1: should take us by surprise, because God has told us
- 23:14Speaker 1: in advance everything that is coming. And that's why I
- 23:17Speaker 1: wrote this book. I want people to be prepared. I
- 23:19Speaker 1: don't want them to say, oh, what are we going
- 23:21Speaker 1: to do? What's going to happen next? Because the Bible
- 23:24Speaker 1: tells us what's going to happen. And if we know
- 23:27Speaker 1: what's going to happen, then we know how to insulate
- 23:30Speaker 1: our family, and then we know how to rescue people
- 23:33Speaker 1: that are perishing.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Your book beautifully explains what's going on right now, as
- 23:38Speaker 2: was in the days of noa social being, the days
- 23:40Speaker 2: of the Coming and Son of Man. They're back. They
- 23:44Speaker 2: are making an appearance. They are tampering with men's genome,
- 23:48Speaker 2: they are tampering with our society. They are slowly infusing
- 23:52Speaker 2: themselves into the world, just as they did before.
- 23:56Speaker 1: But you know, Jesus said social would also be the
- 23:59Speaker 1: coming of the Son of Man. That word coming through
- 24:03Speaker 1: record perusia, which you know that was a technical expression
- 24:07Speaker 1: used in the Greek world, only used to describe the
- 24:11Speaker 1: coming of a king or an emperor who had the
- 24:14Speaker 1: authority to make every wrong right. Well, and a day
- 24:19Speaker 1: is coming when Jesus is going to return, and he's
- 24:23Speaker 1: going to initiate the process of cleaning things up. He's
- 24:27Speaker 1: going to make every wrong right and straighten out this mess,
- 24:31Speaker 1: and praise God, we're on the winning side. Fallen angels, giants, monsters,
- 24:36Speaker 1: and the world before the flood, the world before the flood.
- 24:39Speaker 1: You know that has a ring to it because people
- 24:43Speaker 1: love mythology. They do big, great stories with great people.
- 24:48Speaker 2: And you know Jack the Giant Killer, you know all
- 24:51Speaker 2: the stories like that that have been fictionalized. But let's
- 24:56Speaker 2: face it, the real story is not fiction.
- 24:59Speaker 1: No, it's not fiction. And I think also today about
- 25:01Speaker 1: all the super action figures that are being marketed together.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.
- 25:06Speaker 1: It's a replication, this echo from history past. It's still
- 25:10Speaker 1: speaking to people today. It keeps re emerging. Now it's
- 25:14Speaker 1: super Marvel characters, right, it's the same story. Market kids,
- 25:19Speaker 1: it's called sci fi sci fi, and it's not sci fi.
- 25:23Speaker 2: And I have spent a few dollars myself over the
- 25:26Speaker 2: years going to see science fiction movies. Some of them
- 25:30Speaker 2: were fabulous entertainment, and as I think back, I think,
- 25:35Speaker 2: why did I want to see those? Well, you know,
- 25:39Speaker 2: they're just kind of fun. It's kind of fun to
- 25:41Speaker 2: imagine these things. But then you take a breath and
- 25:44Speaker 2: you say, wait a minute, this is an imaginary version
- 25:47Speaker 2: of something that really happened. Really happened.
- 25:50Speaker 1: You know. There's a TV program called Ancient Aliens.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Yes, and from.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Time to time I'll watch it. My wife will say
- 25:57Speaker 1: turn that off, So when she's not watching, I'll turn
- 26:00Speaker 1: it back on. And they try to describe Genesis chapter six,
- 26:04Speaker 1: verse two in terms of aliens. All they have to
- 26:08Speaker 1: do is go to Genesis chapter six, verse two to
- 26:10Speaker 1: get the real story. We don't have to concoct theories.
- 26:16Speaker 1: We can go back to the scripture.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Those are the real ancient aliens.
- 26:19Speaker 1: That's correct, that's correct. What was their motive, Well, their
- 26:23Speaker 1: motive was to defile the DNA so the Messiah could
- 26:27Speaker 1: not be born. In Genesis three point fifteen, God prophesied
- 26:31Speaker 1: the seed of the woman.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Wow, and they knew that.
- 26:34Speaker 1: And they knew that, and.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Knowing that, they then proceeded with a plan.
- 26:39Speaker 1: To corrupt the DNA of the human race so the
- 26:43Speaker 1: Messiah could not be born of a woman.
- 26:45Speaker 2: What a story.
- 26:47Speaker 1: That was the plan.
- 26:48Speaker 2: I mean, what a meritive.
- 26:51Speaker 1: But Jesus is Lord of all, and he was born
- 26:53Speaker 1: of a woman, and he crushed the serpent's.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Head, and his genealogy, his geno, Yes, proceeded all to Nazareth,
- 27:02Speaker 2: and he was born pure. That's right, pure, and in
- 27:06Speaker 2: spite of everything they could.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Do, that is correct. Well, the gospel's amazing.
- 27:12Speaker 2: The gospel is amazing, and I think you've really caught
- 27:15Speaker 2: the essence of it. The world before the flood, how
- 27:18Speaker 2: the events of Noah's ark and the blood are relevant
- 27:23Speaker 2: to the end of the age, and the word relevant
- 27:26Speaker 2: just pops off the front cover.
- 27:28Speaker 1: And one really good thing about this book is as
- 27:31Speaker 1: three hundred illustrations. People like pictures, they do, so I
- 27:35Speaker 1: wanted people not just to read this. I wanted them
- 27:37Speaker 1: to be able to visualize what this book is describing.
- 27:41Speaker 1: And I really believe this book will help equip people
- 27:45Speaker 1: for the days that are coming and which are going
- 27:47Speaker 1: to be dark days and bright days for God's people.
- 27:50Speaker 1: This is our opportunity.
- 27:52Speaker 2: We've only got a couple of minutes left, and what
- 27:54Speaker 2: I'd like for you to do at this point in
- 27:55Speaker 2: time is speak to someone out there who's saying, Wow,
- 28:00Speaker 2: this is kind of scary to me. I don't know
- 28:02Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do with this information.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Well, I would like to speak to you about that.
- 28:08Speaker 1: You know, we're living in very strange days. You already
- 28:10Speaker 1: know that. You've even said to your family and your friends,
- 28:13Speaker 1: what in the world is going on? Where is this
- 28:15Speaker 1: thing headed? Well, the Bible tells us very clearly where
- 28:19Speaker 1: it's all headed. And God is not in the business
- 28:22Speaker 1: of scaring anybody, but he is in the business of
- 28:26Speaker 1: preparing us. And that's why it is so clearly described
- 28:30Speaker 1: in Matthew twenty four thirty seven that what happened in
- 28:32Speaker 1: the world before the flood's going to be replicated again.
- 28:36Speaker 1: And my friends, God wants you to be prepared. He
- 28:38Speaker 1: does not want you to be taken off guard or
- 28:40Speaker 1: to be panicked. You've got the word of God. You've
- 28:44Speaker 1: got the power of God, you've got the blood of Jesus,
- 28:47Speaker 1: you've got the power of the Holy Spirit. You've got
- 28:49Speaker 1: everything you need to walk in victory and to help
- 28:53Speaker 1: people around you that are confused. And there's a lot
- 28:57Speaker 1: of confused people. So rather than close your blinds and
- 29:01Speaker 1: hide out in your house, you need to rush to
- 29:04Speaker 1: those that are confused because you have what they need.
- 29:09Speaker 1: You really do, and remember this, When Jesus arrived at
- 29:13Speaker 1: the country of the Gatherines, and that demon possessed man
- 29:17Speaker 1: came towards Jesus. Jesus didn't say, oh, this is terrible,
- 29:21Speaker 1: get back in the boat and leave it. Beckoned Jesus
- 29:24Speaker 1: to action. He entered into that situation and set that
- 29:28Speaker 1: man free. And the age we're living in beckons you
- 29:32Speaker 1: and me to action. We are needed right now. We've
- 29:37Speaker 1: got to step out of the boat, step forward and
- 29:39Speaker 1: do everything we can to help people be free. And
- 29:42Speaker 1: you can do it. And I speak that to you
- 29:46Speaker 1: in Jesus' wonderful name.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Amen, well spoken, Rick Renner, thanks for joining us here
- 29:52Speaker 2: on Prophecy watchers, and by the way, may the Lord
- 29:56Speaker 2: bless your work and the days to come.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 29:59Speaker 2: I'm Gary Steermann. We will see you soon.