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Patriots Unfiltered 10/3: NFL Week 5 Picks, Dolphins Preview, Thursday Practice Updates · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium,
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  Speaker 3: and it's Paul and myself for the time being. We'll
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  Speaker 3: as they get out of the locker room. It's Evan Douce.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be here. Alex to be here later because we've
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  Speaker 3: got picks today. So I I understand that a couple
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  Speaker 3: of us did okay, order has been okay, we'll get
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that later. But you know, we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about the Patriots. We're talking about the Miami Dolphins coming
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  Speaker 3: up this weekend. It's a game that I think most
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  Speaker 3: people think the Patriots should win. Certainly, the Sharps have
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots favored by one, one and a half or
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  Speaker 3: something like that, which you say, oh, well, that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: really mean much because you get three from being at home.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that the Patriots are favored, it's the
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  Speaker 3: first time this season it might be the only time,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll see. But certainly it is. It is a
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  Speaker 3: game that the Patriots they should win. I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I would go as far as
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  Speaker 3: to say should, but they could win.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and I'm picking them. I'll eliminate the suspense
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  Speaker 4: for later. I'm picking them to win this game. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's an opportunity that you have. You know, a
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  Speaker 4: team that had aspirations that has been derailed by obviously
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  Speaker 4: an enormous injury, and they haven't been able to overcome that.
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  Speaker 4: And I think those kinds of situations are different than
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  Speaker 4: what the Patriots are in. The Patriots sort of a rebuilding.
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  Speaker 4: They know they rebuilding. They have a young rookie quarterback
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  Speaker 4: who hasn't played yet. They're sort of trying to build
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  Speaker 4: something to get him onto the field. Yep, Miami thought
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  Speaker 4: that they would be a playoff team again. They've been
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  Speaker 4: a playoff team in the last couple of years. They're
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  Speaker 4: looking to take the next step and find success in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, and they find themselves one and three. I
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  Speaker 4: think there's a chance that there won't be a lot
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  Speaker 4: of intensity on the visitors sideline on Sunday really, I
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  Speaker 4: think that they are going to be looking at and saying,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this season is lost and we have nowhere
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  Speaker 4: to go and it's a big time disappointment.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think word on that I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Not saying that's going to happen. I'm saying it could.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think word on that team has gotten around
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  Speaker 3: about to his future that maybe hasn't gone public yet,
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  Speaker 3: but the players know and that's affecting them.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think two is going to play,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know that for sure. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: it could be, and that could be make it even worse.
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  Speaker 4: They know he's not coming back, So what's the sense, right?
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  Speaker 4: If you're right, and.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm I'm just just speculating, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: could be just speculating they.
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  Speaker 4: I know the Patriots don't want to hear about anybody
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  Speaker 4: else's injury problems because the Patriots have had their share
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  Speaker 4: huge one from Miami. Jalen Phillips out for the year,
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  Speaker 4: needs surgery on his knee. So it's not getting any
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  Speaker 4: better for the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Young Evan had a nice post on
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  Speaker 3: Patriots dot com this morning. It might have come out
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  Speaker 3: yesterday evening just his matchup post for this game. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, if you want to get into the x's
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  Speaker 3: and o's, that's the place to go. But it was
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  Speaker 3: become a coach, Yeah, it was. It was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of what we talked about yesterday, or he talked about
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  Speaker 3: yesterday about you know what Miami likes to do, what
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots like to do, what teams are doing against
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots, especially the last two games, and if Miami
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  Speaker 3: could replicate that. But certainly, you know, he's setting it
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  Speaker 3: up to be a game where the Patriots have a
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  Speaker 3: good shot of winning as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, this is I mean, this is an offense,
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  Speaker 4: Like I said yesterday, it's it's the only offense that
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  Speaker 4: scored less than you have, right, so you should have
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  Speaker 4: the game. You know, that whole unsustainable Cincinnati thing that
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  Speaker 4: we talked about. This should be another one of those
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  Speaker 4: games at worst.
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  Speaker 3: And they haven't.
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  Speaker 4: For the Patriots, they haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Led in a game this season.
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  Speaker 4: No, they kicked a walk off field goal as time expired,
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  Speaker 4: so they won the game, but they never actually had
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  Speaker 4: the lead right during until the game was over.
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  Speaker 3: That's something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, first time since like twenty sixteen. That's happened
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  Speaker 4: first four games, and I think the winless Browns did it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they didn't hold the lead in the first four weeks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know, you know me, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's probably that's probably about ninety five percent true. But
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  Speaker 4: they screwed something up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, in other Miami news, the owner is selling
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  Speaker 3: I think eighteen percent of the team.
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  Speaker 4: Oh is it? I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so interested, he's looking to get a little cash.
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  Speaker 4: You interested eighteen percent? No, that'd be a conflict of interest.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have to actually pay for that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm out. I'm out.
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  Speaker 4: Probably, you're probably right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to buy a TV. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of I mean a lot of people retire,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of New England just retire to Florida.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought that might be a good fallback for that.
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  Speaker 3: No, no thanks, no, no thanks. Uh. Maybe maybe you
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  Speaker 3: think the craft would give me a piece of this
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  Speaker 3: team when I retire. Yeah, but it doesn't it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Like you can buy a piece of a team, but
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't do any good until you actually cash out, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Like if they gave me a piece of the team,
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  Speaker 4: I would cash it out like twenty minutes later, right.
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  Speaker 3: I can just hand me the money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we bother with the formalities or you have your.
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  Speaker 3: Own buyer lined up as soon as they do it,
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  Speaker 3: all right, what else? What else we got? We got
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  Speaker 3: DeVante Adams still out there.
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  Speaker 4: That's probably still the biggest thing in the league. And
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  Speaker 4: there's been a lot of talk. The Raiders have said
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  Speaker 4: that they will accommodate his trade, but not necessarily exactly
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  Speaker 4: allowing him to dictate it. So I know that there
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  Speaker 4: was a lot about the two teams that he is
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  Speaker 4: interested in, the Jets and the Saints, and the pretty
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  Speaker 4: obvious reasons. The Jets for Aaron Rodgers and the Saints
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  Speaker 4: for his connection to Derek Carr, who he played with
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  Speaker 4: in college and for a year with the Raiders. So
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  Speaker 4: I think Vegas wants to make sure that they're exploring
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  Speaker 4: all avenues, sure, and getting the best deal for them.
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  Speaker 4: But my guess is that the Jets would be the
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  Speaker 4: landing spot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I think if you're close, a second
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  Speaker 3: round pick is and that's what I hear that they're
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  Speaker 3: looking for a second and maybe some other things. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't seem unreasonable if you're close, But if you're not,
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  Speaker 3: like the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: He's thirty one, I think he's thirty two.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty two now, you know so? Is that how it works?
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  Speaker 3: You get older every year.
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  Speaker 4: I let it go. I don't have to jump on everyone.
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  Speaker 3: But you know so, I don't know if it makes
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  Speaker 3: sense for a lot of teams that aren't close.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree. And whether it's thirty one or
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  Speaker 4: thirty two, you know your team's going to look at
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  Speaker 4: it and say, will he be part of my team?
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  Speaker 4: Will he be a big part of my offense when
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  Speaker 4: I figure to be in contention? And you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think if you're looking at it realistically from the Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: probably not.
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  Speaker 3: And he always seems to be bitching about something.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's another one of those guys. And it comes
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  Speaker 4: with the position that you know the people that tell
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  Speaker 4: you that, you know, the traditionalist Patriots fans that think
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  Speaker 4: their success was built on the fact that they didn't
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  Speaker 4: have stars and they had a strong middle class and
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  Speaker 4: had nothing to do with having the greatest player who's
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  Speaker 4: ever played. Those people, I will tell you this is
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  Speaker 4: why these receivers, even now, they'll argue, these receivers never
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  Speaker 4: win anything, which is absurd. But that's what they argue.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, So I mean we almost won one with Randy but.
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  Speaker 4: No, But again, did you know win because you had
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  Speaker 4: a diva wide receiver that was setting records? You know, Like,
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  Speaker 4: do you think Travis Kelsey's a diva?
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  Speaker 3: I do you do?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: God, really, I see, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: He's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: You think he complains a lot and all that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's just like he's the center of attention guy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was gonna use a bad term. No,
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  Speaker 4: he's a center of attention guys.
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  Speaker 3: Like, we're going to get into one of these discussions again.
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  Speaker 3: But my definition of a diva is someone who causes
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  Speaker 3: problems because of their personality.
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  Speaker 4: It can it can be that you can end up
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  Speaker 4: being a Well that's that to me. Is Kelsey, P Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he has. He brings a lot of baggage with him.
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  Speaker 4: I would just say, I understand what you're saying, and
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  Speaker 4: you're right, Like there's a difference between being a diva.
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  Speaker 4: Like Steph Diggs was in Buffalo, but he was really productive.
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  Speaker 4: He was really good until the end, right when all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden the last half of last year, he
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  Speaker 4: wasn't getting the same amount of production. Now it's a problem,
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  Speaker 4: but he was a diva the whole time, Make no mistake,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Mike and I used to argue about him
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  Speaker 4: all the time because I just said, I'll take him,
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  Speaker 4: and I would absolutely take him until he's no longer
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  Speaker 4: productive because now the production's not outweighing the the off
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  Speaker 4: field problems and that comes with that position all the time.
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  Speaker 4: That's where the Raiders are right now with Adams. Although
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  Speaker 4: it certainly seems I didn't know this until yesterday. Do
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  Speaker 4: you know what the origin of him being traded is?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: Evidently Sports Illustrated put out something recently, like within the
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  Speaker 4: last two weeks suggesting that DeVante Adams makes a lot
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  Speaker 4: of sense as a trade candidate. You know, it's one
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  Speaker 4: of those things that you know, the national guys are
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  Speaker 4: always doing, you know, ten trades that make you know
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  Speaker 4: you put the listicle up there and you know, watch
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  Speaker 4: the clicks. Well, evidently Antonio Pearson liked it on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that like, what are you doing exactly? That's supposedly
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  Speaker 4: what caused a lot of this friction. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if that's.
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  Speaker 3: He ever addressed that.
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  Speaker 4: Pierce and just yeah, well he ended up deleting it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, but now he's getting like I saw a
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  Speaker 4: little clip of him press his press conference, so he
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  Speaker 4: got really evasive and defensive about it. Not a good look.
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  Speaker 4: See some people were worried about the players that are playing,
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  Speaker 4: or you know one of those that like, yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: just so you know, I'm not in Vegas. That might
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  Speaker 4: be overblown that story. That might be like sort of
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  Speaker 4: the national thing. You know how that works. It's much
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  Speaker 4: deep dumb, missing context. But I didn't know any of
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  Speaker 4: that at all. I found it interesting.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people they use that like button as
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  Speaker 3: a bookmark, but they shouldn't. There is a bookmark feature
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  Speaker 3: an X that you can use when you hit like
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  Speaker 3: other people find out about it, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But what's the bookmark feature?
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  Speaker 7: I don't do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I's only got to go into three dots and
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  Speaker 3: it's in there. But anyway, you know who's getting killed
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  Speaker 3: in Vegas right now? Josh McDaniels. He was trending the
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  Speaker 3: other day and they're they're blaming a lot of what's
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  Speaker 3: going on now back to Josh McDaniels.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they don't see I think it's funny what's going
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  Speaker 4: on with the Raiders, and that'd be interested to see
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  Speaker 4: what ends up happening in this season, because I was
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  Speaker 4: kind of surprised that they were able to beat Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: Just shows you that Cleveland's offense is really struggling. They
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  Speaker 4: got what they wanted, you know, they they got They
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  Speaker 4: got the player who had their backs and was going
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  Speaker 4: to smoke cigars with them when they beat the one
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  Speaker 4: win Giants in the coach. Yeah no, but the player, coach,
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  Speaker 4: the former player. I got the player who's gonna have
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's got their back and everything. And now
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they don't like you know, they're
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  Speaker 4: kind of going nowhere. They have no quarterback. They they're
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  Speaker 4: not a very good team. And then you know, you're
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  Speaker 4: seeing like DeVante Adams wants out. He wanted Antonio Pierce
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  Speaker 4: last year and now he wants out because he's been
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  Speaker 4: feels like he's being disrespected. And this is what you get,
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  Speaker 4: This is what you get. This is the fear of
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  Speaker 4: these guys. I think with with Gerrod Mao, with Jamico Ryans,
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  Speaker 4: you're not seeing that kind of insubordination, you know with
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  Speaker 4: the player. Yeah, you know, no, I'm not telling you
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  Speaker 4: that it's never gonna happen. But I mean Mayo has
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  Speaker 4: been a coaching almost as long as Pierce has. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and Pierce finished last year, you know, otherwise they're on
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  Speaker 4: the same level.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I just think sometimes you think that's what you want,
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  Speaker 4: like this freedom and right respect and treat me like
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  Speaker 4: a man, and it doesn't work. I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like we've talked about, these guys are all alphas. These guys,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they want to be told what to do.
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  Speaker 3: They want to be put in positions to succeed, believe
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  Speaker 3: it or not, whether regardless of what they say. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's and if you give them too much freedom,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to take it, and it's it's disorder. It's
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  Speaker 3: too many guys in the locker room to have to order. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta. And I'm not saying that you have to
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  Speaker 3: be draconian about it, but you have to have order.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have structure, you have to have rules,
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  Speaker 3: and you have to have consequences when people break the rules,
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  Speaker 3: and it has to be consistent and transparent.
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  Speaker 4: So I gotta just look at some things here. No,
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  Speaker 4: I totally agree. I'm looking at some things, you know,
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  Speaker 4: looking at the the Dolphins in the Patriots. Do you
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  Speaker 4: want to know what the Dolphins score by quarter is?
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  Speaker 8: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Think I guess three? They are points by by quarter
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  Speaker 4: each quarter? Ten ten seven six. That's for the season. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: that's a game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah twenty Wow, like thirty points for the season thirty yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty three points. But like ten ten, seven to six.
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  Speaker 4: I would bet the under if I know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people. You know, these all these game props that
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  Speaker 4: you can do. Now, I don't know if like DraftKings,
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  Speaker 4: if you're allowed to bet like the overunder of a
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  Speaker 4: quarter just the first quarter. Yeah, the over under of
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  Speaker 4: the first quarter has to be like three. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 4: the Dolphins have scored ten points in the first corpter
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  Speaker 4: all year. The Patriots have scored seven jeez all year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Like that's the Patriots pregame show where that is actually
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  Speaker 9: one of our over unders.
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  Speaker 4: The first quarter. Oh really, I didn't know. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 4: helping you out there, you go, guy.
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  Speaker 3: Guy, I already had it done. It's printed out.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Yeah, Patriots. At least that you know, seven
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  Speaker 4: in the first they do have twenty two in the
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  Speaker 4: second quarter. Otherwise it's similar ten and thirteen. So otherwise, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they just explode in the second quarter though twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: This we'll see what happens. I mean, everyone's expecting, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a slog offensive. It just turned out to be like
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  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, everyone's thinking that, and it'll
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  Speaker 3: be like thirty three thirty you know, thirty five thirty three.
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  Speaker 4: The only way it will be like that is if
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  Speaker 4: the teams turn the ball over multiple times each Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's no way they're going seventy five eighty yards consistently
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  Speaker 4: these two teams.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Like I said, we've got picks later, We've
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  Speaker 3: got people coming later. So now's a good time to
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  Speaker 3: hear from our listeners. Emails at podcasts at Patriots dot com.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: What do we again? And the tpx houtline is eight
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: five to five past five hundred, So let's get to
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: the tpx hutline. We'll hit that first. Christians in La,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: what's up, Christian?
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: Hey you guys, how you guys are doing today? Shout
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: out to the queens.
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: Hey guys.
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: I wanted to give you guys credit.
• 16:35
  Speaker 11: Because for the last like five years or so, you guys.
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: Have done an amazing job of fielding these questions week
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: after week, day after day with people wanting answers, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: sometimes they want answers like from you guys directly, right, Sure,
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: but I wanted to say that I get it, And
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: so for me, I've adjusted what I'm looking for this season.
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: I'm no longer looking for just a total number of wins.
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: And what I'm looking for in essence is does the
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: Van Pelt system work? Like if we have better talent
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: or you know, better the better class of talent does
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: in essence his system work. That's one thing I'm looking
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: for what I've adjusted to. And then secondly, I'm starting
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: to try and emotionally separate the end of the last
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: regime and the losses we took there with the beginning
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: of this one, because it feels like it should be
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: like the end of a seven year or six year rebuilt.
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: But it's not right because Bill never really did a rebuild.
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: He tried to do sort of a continuation, which why
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: he took mac Jones over justin Field, and that was
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: the decline of that one. So do you guys separate
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: like the decline of the last machine with Hey relaxed,
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: this is the first year coach, first year general manager.
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: We got a rookie quarterback. How do you separate you
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: know that the two regimes in the fans heads of like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: oh my god, it's been like so many losses.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a good question, Christian, you know, like
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: should you consider this part of what has happened over
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the last four years. It's hard not to, you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: because Girod's still here. He was there. Then you resigned
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of players who were there. Then you
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: didn't gut the place. You actually re signed a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: of players that were here. So it's hard to say
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: that this is a total rebuild at this point.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Right, Like Bill actually did a total rebuild in twenty
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: twenty when then he signed all those guys in twenty one,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Right now, it didn't work, right, But this is I
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: think you're right. I think this is more of a continuation.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: The big thing that Christian mentions is the quarterback, right,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: we won't know that, and that's you until Drake made
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: a place.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: So that new rebuild was supposed to start with mac Jones,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and it was a failure, correct, you know. But I
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: was listening to Lombardi a few days ago, and he was,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: of course defending Bill and hitting, you know, you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: ragging on the Patriots about oh yeah, they don't like
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: anything Bill did, but they resigned all his guys, you know, well, yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: well they weren't good then either, and now they're not
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: good with those guys. But I think in Elliott Wolf's case,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: you had to sign somebody, you had to pay something.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I think that's what they did, and that's why it's not.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Like these guys are going to be part of the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: future that they signed.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean some of them might be, but yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I think you're you're nailing it, like I.
• 19:22
  Speaker 12: Don't.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I've been somewhat critical of just so I keep saying,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: like bringing the band back right, and I've taken some
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: shots that even though I disagree with it, I understand it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I understand what Gerrod and Elliott Wolf we're thinking in
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: terms of we're a new regime. Let's retain some players
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: that know us and understand what we're about and will
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: be culture builders for lack of a better term.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And I mean, otherwise, like you're that's why.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: He retained so many guys.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Otherwise you know, you're going into a season with a
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: bunch of disgruntled guys. It's not like you can just
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: cut them and replace them with equal or better talent.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: That's that's unre.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: And in order to get the guys, like if you
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: were going to go and replace all of it. And
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: by the way, I never advocated replacing all of those guys.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I just was a little surprised that they retained as
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: many as they did. But if you were going to
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: replace all those guys with someone some unrestricted free agency,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you would have had to pay more for them, likely,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: you know so, And I again, I understand what they
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: were doing. But to your point, how many of these
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: guys will still be part of the future, I mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: some of them will. I mean, I think, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: like if Barber is you know, okay with the blood
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: clots in his career isn't ruined, that's one. You know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: douggers should be around for a little while, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and Peppers, those guys are young enough to be part
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: of the defense moving forward. And you know guys that
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: probably won't be Guys like Hunter Henry Gotcha Gotchaw, he
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: probably won't be, you know, and some of the guys.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: You know, David Andrews is a guy they extended obviously.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: He he's dealing with phys problems even now. So not
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: everybody they re signed will be part of the future,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: but some of them will be. Some of them will be.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: They had to field a team, they had to pay people,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and it made sense, like you said, let's just keep
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: these guys that know what we're doing. They know us,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: we know them, and you know, because you got to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: keep playing the games. You can't just like, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: take the season off until you find all the right
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: players you got to you know, you gotta keep playing.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: So but I get what you know, the over I
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: get what Christian's saying, like how much do you kind
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of give them a break and say, Okay, we're starting
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: over this year?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I do give them that because it is
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: for them it's year one. Yeah, it's not to me
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: year one of the rebuilds, but for for Girodmeo and
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Elliott Wolf it is year one.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: That's fact right, doing it the way they want to
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: do it right. Right, Let's go to the tpx houtline.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: We'll go to another Christian in Virginia. What's up, Christian?
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how's it going good?
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: I just wanted to call in talking about uh, Drake
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: May yesterday, And I know confidence is a big thing
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: that we've been talking about, and it was nice to
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: hear Mike saying how he was interacting with people in
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: the locker room, you know, just because of all the
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: mac Jones stuff. I feel like people have been expecting
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: Drake May to have horrible confidence, and I feel like
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: they're interpreting a lot of his like being on the sideline,
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: like what are you expecting from him? He's not playing,
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: the team's not playing well. I mean, he's not gonna
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: be all happy and smiles sitting there. He's paying attention
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: and there's not really much for him to be super
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: super happy about there.
• 22:45
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: I just think that's really overblown.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we talked about that yesterday. We haven't seen
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: like that from Drake May. And by the way, he's
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: got an earpiece in so even when he's like not
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: standing right next to a VP or whatever, he's hearing
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: everything that's being said.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: And I will just say that I've heard a lot
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: of people wondering why he's not always right with Van
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Pelt and Brissette when Brissette's off the field. I haven't
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: heard a lot of he doesn't look happy. I heard
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: that from one person yesterday. Yeah, so like the whole
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you know, just like the overblown I agree with Christian.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: It's not something that stood out to me in the
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: locker room. It's completely the opposite. He's always that the
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: kid just doesn't have any bad days. He always looks happy.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: But I haven't necessarily seen it on the sideline. We're
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: pretty far up in the press box, so you can't
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: really see a guy's face from where we sit. But
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard a lot of that. I have heard
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: a lot of people wondering why he's not more involved
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: with the conversations on the sideline. But Fred's point is
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: he's listening and listen, listening and learning.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: With the way these games go. Can you imagine the
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: criticism if he was yucking it up on the sideline
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and laughing and all that, or you know, not just him,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: but you will be perceived like doesn't care.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Well, no, like that's why I should be playing like
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: this guy. Oh I can't that too. That's how I
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: know Mike, Mike and Tony would be doing that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Every one of these players should look kind of pissed
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: on the sideline because things aren't doing well as a team.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Thanks Christian, appreciate the call. Mike and Puerto Rico. You're
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: up next, big y'all.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: How you doing today?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Good Mike. We got a lot of legs out of
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: you yesterday. I know it was great.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: After listening well yes and no, after listening to y'all
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: yesterday and actually some of the feedback from the callers
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and the emailers, I was actually a little frustrated on
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: how I came across as entitled, which is something that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I am definitely not about that That's not me as
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a person or as a fan. I should have found
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: words and a better tone to convey my first stration
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: with the decisions from Mayo and Wolf and how it
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: comes from a pace of love and passion for the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: team and what a Patriots fan stands.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Mike.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I think people understand that you're not listening to this
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: show if you don't love the Patriots.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think And I think people know you too, Mike.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I think they know that you're you're you're died in
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: the role and you just want better for your team.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I don't I wouldn't worry too much about it. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: don't think that there are too many people that thought
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: you you know didn't care.
• 25:32
  Speaker 13: No, and I.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Paul. I really do like it. It's you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: coming from you guys. It really means a lot to me.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I've always said, you guys are a big reason why
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I follow the team. Actually, you're a big reason why
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I fell in love with the team, and you know
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: up for the passion that I have on the team.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So moving on, and I just have a question. I'm
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: not listening live, I can't really see on YouTube. I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: don't know who's there, but I was wondering, how would
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you if you feel that if you put an offense
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: out there with May and then just send three people,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: three receivers, out receivers, tight ends, running backs, whatever, out
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: on routes and then just try to quote unquote maximize
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: or steam around, just making sure that May has enough time.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Do you think we can win and make significant progress
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: in our offense towards you know, building a bigger and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: better offense and hopefully start easing up on the protection.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Well listen that way, Yeah, I mean, and thanks for
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the call. You know, these guys have to get open.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're consistently if you're consistently protecting with seven
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: players and only sending three out.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, they're gonna you can count now, they're gonna
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: they're gonna say, Okay, let's not bother going at the quarterback.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Let's just flood zones. Let's just double cover guys. And
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think right now, at least we've got that
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: one guy who can get open no matter what, or
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: draw attention so that the other guys aren't getting.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Now, that's stuff that you can do to certainly help
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: the quarterback and max protect and yeah, you know occasionally,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: but you don't want to be an offense that's doing
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: that on a consistent basis.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: No, I mean cut down the talent. You know, in
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the current state of the team, it's not talented enough
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: to win consistently. That's going to take time. That's going
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to take time. Let's go to Dan and Rhode Island.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: What's up, Dan, Hey, how's it going all right?
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: Thanks for having me.
• 27:38
  Speaker 15: Just a couple of things definitely want to say. First
• 27:41
  Speaker 15: and foremost, one thing about Jirod that he mentioned during
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: his press conference from either yesterday or the day before.
• 27:48
  Speaker 15: I know, he talked about the sustainability of the offense,
• 27:51
  Speaker 15: and he openly admitted that the scheme was not sustainable
• 27:55
  Speaker 15: for winning games, even though obviously they went into the
• 27:58
  Speaker 15: season with the intention, of course of winning games and
• 28:01
  Speaker 15: going through with this scheme. So I think that's a
• 28:03
  Speaker 15: little bit hypocritical to kind of backstep from that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: And so can you hold on one second, Dan, because
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I think there's there's a little bit more to it
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: than what you're saying. I don't think he I don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: think Gerard was saying the game plan that we went
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: into the Cincinnati game with and one with is not sustainable.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: He's saying we need to be more productive on offense
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: to win more than one game.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's saying if we just want to
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: run the ball and that's that's our game plan, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: don't think he thinks that's not sustainable. But you got
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: to score more points, right Like they ran the ball
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: but didn't score a lot of points that day, And
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I think that's what he's talking about. I don't necessarily
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: think he thinks the scheme is wrong. The production is
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: not obviously, I just I read you. The number is
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: fifty two points in four games. The production is just
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: not there.
• 28:56
  Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you. I think his direct
• 28:59
  Speaker 15: quote was specifically that it was not sustainable and.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: It wasn't sustainable because but he was asked why it
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: wasn't sustainable, and he said, you have to score at
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: least twenty one points in this league to be to
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: be competitive.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: And don't forget what Gerrod Mao said. I don't know
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: if it was the next week or the week after
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: when he's talking about how things will change each game.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: You know, he said there might be some games where
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: we throw it all over the place. So he's talking
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: about producing and you know, in that Cincinnati game, that
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: was the plan to beat Cincinnati. But whatever the plan is,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: you got to produce. You got to produce points.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Right and they didn't. Yeah, and that was his point.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: They didn't score enough.
• 29:39
  Speaker 15: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely definitely some good points.
• 29:44
  Speaker 16: Thanks guys.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, Thanks Dan. Another Dan. We're getting like doubled up.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Here, double Christians.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan and Minnesota. What's up? Dan?
• 29:55
  Speaker 16: Hi, guys, Hey, thanks for having me on. I got
• 30:00
  Speaker 16: just one David and question task. First of all, I've
• 30:07
  Speaker 16: been I guess maybe the earliest Patriots games I remember
• 30:10
  Speaker 16: watching for the early eighties, so I've seen a lot
• 30:12
  Speaker 16: of bad teams and I remember saying when the Patriots
• 30:15
  Speaker 16: beats Gattle in the Super Bowl the way they did,
• 30:18
  Speaker 16: I'm never going to complain again.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 30:20
  Speaker 16: The rest from here is gravy, and so I try
• 30:23
  Speaker 16: not to play too much.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I still but I still want to be entertained before
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: by the way winning go ahead.
• 30:33
  Speaker 16: The question I have for you is do you think
• 30:37
  Speaker 16: that losing David Andrews for the season has changed Mayo
• 30:43
  Speaker 16: and a VP's plan as to when to start Drake May.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a question A lot of people are asking, like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: if the offensive line was bad before and you were
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: concerned for Drake May, what are you feeling now, Let's
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: see what Leverett does. I mean, he he was okay,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: like he didn't fall all over himself in the last game.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: If he can just play competently at the center position,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think to me, I don't think that changes.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I don't know, but I I don't
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: think that should have anything to do with it, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I don't think it does. I think for girod May
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: and when Alex van Pelt, it's about Drake May. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: when they feel Drake May is ready, I think that's
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: the plan is to play him when they think he's ready.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping. I'm hoping that that's the case, that it's
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: about Drake May and not about what's around him, because
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: if it's about what's around him, you're not going to
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: see him this year at all. Yeah, because they're not
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: ever going to feel good about the offensive line this season, right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 16: The one thing I wonder about is maybe earlier they thought, well,
• 31:47
  Speaker 16: he'll be ready as long as David Andrews is there
• 31:51
  Speaker 16: to make the line calls, but now that he's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 16: in there.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: No, it's definitely a good it's a good point, Dan.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: It's to be honest as much, which is I want
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to play May. I wrote my notebook this week that
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: maybe this isn't the week to do it, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: the first week that you got another starter at center.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: So I think you're right to be thinking that way.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: But I just hope that it's not one of those
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: things that's a deal breaker and they say, well, we're
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: just going to put them on ice and wait for
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: the whole year.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 32:23
  Speaker 16: I think he's going to be way more entertaining watch.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, thanks for the call, Dan, I mean,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I know an a VP system the center makes the
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: line calls. Yeah, I like it better when your quarterback
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: is doing that, he's he's standing up, he can you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: your center is like down looking at people's knees, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: like the quarterback is up upright looking you can survey
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the field. That makes more sense to me for any
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: kind of call audible whatever's happening pre snap to have
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: it come from the quarterback.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Alex was asked about that today and Van Pelton DeMarcus
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Covington both spoke today in press conferences and he said, yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: it's going to be more like Brissette's going to have
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: to do more of it, because you know, it's obviously
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: a change, but he says, you know, Levert's been trained
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: for this and you know during the course of the
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: training camp and whatnot. So that's that's the way they
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: do it. I don't know enough about it to know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: like what's the better way to do it. I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: if you have Tom Brady at the more that's that
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady's involved with the thought process, the better. But
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: my guess is that not every quarterback has that ability.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: And the idea is to take a little off the
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: quarterback's plate yep, you know, and put it put it
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: somewhere else.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Kendall's in North Carolina. I hate Kendall.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on?
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: Guys?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Hey?
• 33:45
  Speaker 17: Do you I mean, how does the whole offensive end up?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Do not have the brisk Look, I can't hear you, Kendall.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's a little muffled.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can hear you. I just couldn't understand what
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: you said.
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, how does the whole offensive line end up?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Going to any report?
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: Do we might have the hope? Do we might have
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: the worst luck in the league?
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: The worst luck. I think a lot of teams are
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: dealing with with mass injuries on the offensive line. I
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: think Cleveland's had the whole line out all like all
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: four games. Yeah, I just think there's there's a lot
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: of injuries.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: And thanks for the call.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: You look around the league and you see that the
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: key players that are going down. You know that the
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Lions just lost their their standout center, Frank Ragnow for
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the season. He was out two weeks ago. Just there's
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of attrition, and I know that it seems
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: like we talk about it every year in September. It
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: seems like a lot of big injuries this year, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: they do and they do like it does seem that way,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: but it happens every year.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: It happens every year, and sometimes it happens to certain units.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: You know, some teams get lucky and the injuries get
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: spread out and you can kind of cover it up.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: But when they happen in a condensed way to a
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: certain unit, it really amplifies it. And when you're still
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: arding the way the Pages did without legitimate tackles, that
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: makes it worse. And when you're behind and and you're overmatched,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: whether it's physically, you tend to like overreach, you tend
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to like you could hurt yourself, and maybe that's some
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: of it too, So it's it's just a perfect storm
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: of badness.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Speaking.
• 35:22
  Speaker 18: But yeah, he goes into the locker room and because
• 35:34
  Speaker 18: this all is jingleness is.
• 35:39
  Speaker 19: Mike is back to it and there too, and Alex, Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 19: well today I felt like we were just sitting around
• 35:45
  Speaker 19: waiting for Kendrick Bourne the whole time. I think yesterday
• 35:48
  Speaker 19: was Nick Leverett where everyone goes right in right to
• 35:50
  Speaker 19: the locker, sets up camp camp out, and then we're
• 35:53
  Speaker 19: just sitting there till like ten minutes left in the thing,
• 35:55
  Speaker 19: and then Kendrick finally came out and uh, obviously he's
• 35:57
  Speaker 19: excited to be back, and you know, I had a
• 35:59
  Speaker 19: lot of learning experience there from his injury.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: But no chance he plays this week, right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I think there's a chance.
• 36:05
  Speaker 19: I would lean no, just because he's he did mention
• 36:08
  Speaker 19: he's like, I'm still a little limited, so yeah, just
• 36:10
  Speaker 19: on the injury report.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but he said that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 19: You know, being on the pup list, he was basically
• 36:16
  Speaker 19: recovered this summer, but he hadn't really been able to
• 36:18
  Speaker 19: start training and doing football things. So by being on
• 36:21
  Speaker 19: pup here for the first four weeks of the season,
• 36:24
  Speaker 19: he's been able to, you know, kind of get a
• 36:25
  Speaker 19: little bit more up the speed of football.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: But I would you got you got the vibe?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: No, I got the vibe.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Not yet I got but holing Born not going but
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: we'll see.
• 36:38
  Speaker 19: But otherwise, you know, kind of quiet, a lot of
• 36:40
  Speaker 19: other small conversations going around, but kind of quiet in
• 36:43
  Speaker 19: the locker room. I mean, I'm not saying that in
• 36:45
  Speaker 19: like a bad way of like, oh they're not ready
• 36:47
  Speaker 19: for the game. That just you know, some some days
• 36:49
  Speaker 19: there's a bunch of different people have scrums and there's.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: A lot going on.
• 36:53
  Speaker 19: In other days it's you know, one guy has a
• 36:55
  Speaker 19: scrum and then there's a lot of other small.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Side conversations going on.
• 36:58
  Speaker 19: I was hoping to talk to Mapho and Taki Taki
• 37:01
  Speaker 19: because you know, Stacy said they were okay to chat
• 37:03
  Speaker 19: with now that they've returned to practice.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: So but those guys did.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Not talk, so they were not talking or not there.
• 37:09
  Speaker 19: I saw Mampoo briefly and he turned down in a
• 37:12
  Speaker 19: review re quest, and then Taki Taki was in there
• 37:14
  Speaker 19: also briefly, but like at the end just kind of
• 37:16
  Speaker 19: you know, passed through.
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: Iathing like a walk through situation talk into the equipment room.
• 37:21
  Speaker 19: It's not quite the Dante High Tower or High Tower
• 37:22
  Speaker 19: with poking that door down that other in the locker
• 37:25
  Speaker 19: room and he'd have the countdown, he'd open the door.
• 37:29
  Speaker 20: And well that's the thing I was thinking yesterday with
• 37:33
  Speaker 20: Nick Leverett, the people kind of like, I don't know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 20: camping out at his locker for it was literally the
• 37:39
  Speaker 20: whole time, and I'm like, he.
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: Probably just keeps peeking out and.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Seeing this and going out there.
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: Personally, I would.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Having somebody report to him. Is the coast clear?
• 37:47
  Speaker 17: Yeah?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 37:47
  Speaker 20: Yet, well, you know the guys are going in there
• 37:49
  Speaker 20: like yo, Leverett, they're waiting for you.
• 37:52
  Speaker 21: You know.
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: They make those comments all the time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: The me is not really that bad.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I think if I had, if I was a player,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I'd have like a little candy dish at my lock's idea,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: when I'm not there, people can come by and take candy.
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: Good idea.
• 38:06
  Speaker 19: Nobody better touch anything in your locker otherwise you might
• 38:08
  Speaker 19: get tackled.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: And you should hog tide, you should.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I also love that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 19: I mean almost felt like they're doing it on purpose.
• 38:14
  Speaker 19: It's like on one of those middle tables in the
• 38:17
  Speaker 19: middle of the locker room, there's just a like a
• 38:19
  Speaker 19: like a playbook, like it looks almost like an old
• 38:21
  Speaker 19: school playbook and it just says like Patriots offense on it,
• 38:23
  Speaker 19: and it's just been sitting there for like, I don't.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I should not be waiting for the dolphin to come in.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: And totally it's just been sitting there the whole time.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: So yeah, but that's good. I like that a little something.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Some teams, the coach would they get. You know, this
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: is back when they had physical playbooks and it wasn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: like on an iPad. They would put like one hundred
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: dollars in the last page or something like that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Like a draft and say you do that to a draft,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: like a like a guy that you just drafted, you.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Give this back when you're finished, or something like that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: So they know that they actually went through the playbook.
• 38:59
  Speaker 19: Did they get to keep the hundred dollars or then
• 39:01
  Speaker 19: is it about like did you return one hundred dollars?
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Did you keep the one hundred dollars?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: But it would be any some form of tests to
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: make sure that they actually actually read it, opened it
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: up and read it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: So I'm probably going to screw this up like I
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: always do, like with the details. But I think there's
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: a famous JaMarcus Russell h story for with the Raiders,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Like they had a bunch of plays that they downloaded
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: into his device, and you know, they they said, so
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: you know, like go home. This is like whatever they're doing,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: you know for that week. You know, so what you know,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: what you think? You know, what are your thoughts? And
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: he like came up with like all these kinds of
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: different things. Wow, they like to do this. They like
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: to They didn't put any plays in.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Ah, they didn't.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Put any plays and so they knew that he never
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: even logged.
• 39:43
  Speaker 20: On sounds like the joke they played on Gronk last weekend.
• 39:46
  Speaker 20: Did you guys see that?
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: No?
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: Oh my god.
• 39:48
  Speaker 20: So they made up a player, a Pro Bowl tight end,
• 39:53
  Speaker 20: and they just started talking about him, how this team's
• 39:55
  Speaker 20: going to get him back from the iruh, this all
• 39:58
  Speaker 20: pro caliber tight end and they're starting talk about him,
• 40:00
  Speaker 20: and you can just see in his face that Gronk
• 40:02
  Speaker 20: has no idea who this player is. And then someone
• 40:04
  Speaker 20: from the broadcast is like, yeah, but how do you
• 40:06
  Speaker 20: think like having only two fingers is gonna affect like
• 40:10
  Speaker 20: you guys.
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: Have I can't believe you didn't see you guys have
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: to go back and watch.
• 40:13
  Speaker 20: It's God, it was his face just like you can
• 40:17
  Speaker 20: tell the moment that it hits him, that he has
• 40:19
  Speaker 20: no clue what anyone's talking about, and he's just going
• 40:22
  Speaker 20: with it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: You guys are gonna laugh on the fly, especially like
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: the listeners will laugh because I never talked like this.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I like Gronk so much that I can't watch him
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: on TV.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: It makes me sadly he's not I.
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: Don't know if he's. It's just his vocabulary as not.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: He's really that cabulary, and I like him so much
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I won't do it I'm only I'm only gonna think
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: of Gronk in that way like that. Dmins, Well, that
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: was how I thought.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: When he stick to what you know, it's gonna be
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: so sad.
• 40:58
  Speaker 19: Like I thought in my mind that eventually Gronk would
• 41:01
  Speaker 19: be like veterans, boring, serious Gronk, But he never became that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 19: You know, He's always just been the kind of wide
• 41:07
  Speaker 19: eyed I just.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Like mispronounce his names all the time and like doesn't
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: really have anything, just sundling like the other thing that
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: could happen to anybody, Like you could do that to anybody,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: but you could do that to anybody at the draft,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: And that's when you find out that the real guys
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: from the frauds. Like I don't know how many times
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: we get phone calls asking about the three tackles and
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: they rattle off the names and I'll just say, I
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: don't know who that is, because I'm not going to
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: fall into one of those. I don't know most of
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: the names in the draft like you guys do, especially
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: right now. No, I'm talking about like when we're doing it,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: like if it's not one of the like if it's
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: not one of the to know the guys that you're
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: going to be, you know, have a chance to take
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: right like not some obscure guy from Slippery.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Rocketing like Will Campbell, Calvin Banks.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: What more do you need to know?
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: All right, I don't need to know.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I need to know the seventeenth on
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: the board. I leave that to Boston and Evan.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: All Right, we're rifling through calls and emails here and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: anticipation of the picks. Anything else you want to bring
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: up before we get back to anticipation listeners?
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's get back to the TPX hotline.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: We'll go to James in North Carolina. What's up, James, Jimmy,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: you hear all right?
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: Good?
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: So yesterday Fred asked, not not in the question, but
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: he just he brought up you know, why why are
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: we payed?
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I brought that up and answer.
• 42:50
  Speaker 13: Those of us.
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: That that were around before, Brady, we've seen all this before.
• 42:56
  Speaker 12: Do we do we want to start the kid yet?
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: But he's got to be put in a position to
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: succeed whatever that takes. And we don't have.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: What's going on? Can we can we what's what's going
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: on over there?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: James.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: You seemed distracted.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Are you at work? Are you hiding from your boss?
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Right? Are you like on a treadmill or what's going on?
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: He's under a desk.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I think it might be.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: A self Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna move
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: on from James.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: So I think his point was like he's been a
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: fan before the success, and he's gonna continue to be
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: a fan. Actor. I think you sort of misunderstood. I
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: don't think you were asking people what what why you're
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: paying I'm saying if you're I think Fred's point was,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: if you're so upset, then maybe this isn't giving you
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: the happiness that it should be given you if you're
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: like that fan. By the way, Mike called in today,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's a little upset. That not upset, but
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: he was disappointed that some people sort of questioned his loyalty.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: You know, Oh yeah, he's fine, right he's talking about
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I think I think I did a good job for
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: a change.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: It's a change I actually helped issue.
• 44:11
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I de escalated. No the way I'm tossing the grenade. Yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 21: Paul on the suicide hot you know what, just do it?
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Do no't know. I like the guy who came in
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: to try to close out that Braves game last I
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: mean the Mets game last night. Just wreaking of Kerosene
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: giving up to run homers everywhere. Bye, that's me.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Uh, Mark's in Connecticut. What's up, Mark?
• 44:37
  Speaker 11: Everybody doing this afternoon?
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: Mark, I'm doing fine.
• 44:41
  Speaker 17: So I don't know about everybody else, but I know
• 44:44
  Speaker 17: a lot of people that I thought to we kind
• 44:46
  Speaker 17: of all feel the same way, and we're tired of
• 44:49
  Speaker 17: watching Jacobie Era. You know, he just he can't make
• 44:54
  Speaker 17: the throws. I mean, he's literally just uh what do
• 44:58
  Speaker 17: you want to call it? Like a punching b out there.
• 45:01
  Speaker 17: And I feel like Drake May. If Drake May gets
• 45:03
  Speaker 17: in there, with his ability and his athleticism, and especially
• 45:07
  Speaker 17: with the tackle position the way that it is, you
• 45:09
  Speaker 17: can move the offensive line and you know, create different
• 45:13
  Speaker 17: kinds of plays and schemes for.
• 45:15
  Speaker 15: The kids to be successful.
• 45:16
  Speaker 17: I just wanted to get your guys's take on that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's all of our hope. You know
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: that he'll be able to do things for set can't. Yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and so you run the same play, it just looks different.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that he could do things that per
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: set can't. I just don't know if he's ready to
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: do that yet, that's all.
• 45:32
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I just I think the place that you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 19: move in the pocket off platform, Drake you know, has
• 45:37
  Speaker 19: the athleticism to get out. It's just is he going
• 45:40
  Speaker 19: to be able to run conventional offense and have a
• 45:42
  Speaker 19: drop back and step to you know, a little bit
• 45:45
  Speaker 19: to his left to where the pocket is. You know
• 45:47
  Speaker 19: that subtle pocket movement that we saw, you know, run
• 45:50
  Speaker 19: to elite level for twenty.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Years around here.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: Those those are the plays that concern me.
• 45:54
  Speaker 19: It's you know, I have no question that he'll be
• 45:56
  Speaker 19: able to get out of some of the stuff when
• 45:58
  Speaker 19: it breaks down, but you know, from play to play,
• 46:00
  Speaker 19: when it doesn't break down and there's pockets a little
• 46:03
  Speaker 19: bit muddy and you know you have to buy a
• 46:05
  Speaker 19: little bit of time with a small shuffle step this
• 46:07
  Speaker 19: way and still get the ball out quick. Those are
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: some of the nuanced in the positions.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Plus regular running the plays. Does he throw the ball
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: to the right place often enough? That's you know, like
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: that's like I know physically he's better, I just you know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know mentally if he's ready.
• 46:22
  Speaker 19: I just I'm excited about his arm too. With some
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: of these screen pops, Like it's just some of these
• 46:26
  Speaker 19: plays that seem to take forever to develop, and it
• 46:29
  Speaker 19: just feels like he'll get it there a beat faster
• 46:30
  Speaker 19: and give some of these receivers and you know, backs
• 46:33
  Speaker 19: a chance to make a move a little bit more,
• 46:35
  Speaker 19: because it seems like right now it's just slow getting
• 46:38
  Speaker 19: over there and it's already completely snuffed out by the
• 46:40
  Speaker 19: time the guy.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Got I'm not yeah, I'm not necessarily thinking that that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: going to be different, But the rest of it, I
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: can't wait to see because I just want to see
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: it if it looks different with somebody else playing the
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: position or is it just like because the slow part
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: that you're talking about, Mike would percent it's not just
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to me. He holds the ball for a long time.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: He takes it a long time to get rid of it,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Like once he decides I'm gonna throw it, it takes
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: a while.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: And I'd like to see if it looks different with
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: another guy playing, for sure.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Lots of emails coming in at podcast, a lot of
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: calls today at Patriots dot Com, a lot of calls
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of emails people are excited. I think it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: because of the picks, but I'm not sure. Let's see
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Barton Poland right sin. I think there has to be
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: a conversation about Mike McDaniel to play in the Miami
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: seems appropriate. We've seen teams lose their starting quarterbacks in
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: the recent pass and still continue being competitive. Packers with
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Willis Browns with Flacco, Bengals with Browning, Ravens with Huntley,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Vikings with Dobbs, et cetera. Of course, their performance too.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: The Ravens were not competitive with Huntley, but the rest
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: of them I would give you.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Of course, their performance took a dip, but they were
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: still at least average NFL teams. I think we can
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: all agree that Tua is a pretty quarterback, but nobody
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: would have him in the top five or eight. So
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: you tell me that the Dolphins, who have a decent
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: defense freaking Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle in a supposed
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: QB friendly scheme look like the twenty twenty three Panthers.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: It has to be coaching right. Also, when you look
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: at the Dolphins record versus winning teams, you may make
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: a case for McDaniel being on the hot seat. Maybe
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: not this year, but definitely next year.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: He keeps up, it's all fair. Yeah, that's all fair.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now he's not going anywhere because they just gave
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: him a big extension. But it's all the criticism is fair.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: They haven't beaten good teams, and without their quarterback, they've
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: fallen apart. This is like two or three different times
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: it's happened too.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: Such an interesting conversation.
• 48:41
  Speaker 19: I think we're so used to the conversation around here,
• 48:43
  Speaker 19: which we all know what that is, a lot of
• 48:45
  Speaker 19: it relating to weapons. But you know, to have those
• 48:48
  Speaker 19: two guys and just I've been amazed at the drop
• 48:51
  Speaker 19: off and it's just it's head scratching, especially because our
• 48:54
  Speaker 19: point of view on Tua is that we can't beat him.
• 48:56
  Speaker 19: So every game I've ever seen in person, Tua has
• 48:58
  Speaker 19: lit up the Patriot. I mean, maybe lit up is
• 49:00
  Speaker 19: a little bit strong, pretty close, pretty close close some
• 49:03
  Speaker 19: competitive games in there, for sure, But you know, my
• 49:06
  Speaker 19: warped sense of Tua is people talk about he stinks.
• 49:08
  Speaker 19: I'm like, well man, every time I seem to see
• 49:10
  Speaker 19: he's throwing these like laser pinpoint accuracy throws down that
• 49:14
  Speaker 19: Tyreek Hill just swoops through his own and it just
• 49:16
  Speaker 19: drops right where it needs to be and he's gone
• 49:18
  Speaker 19: to the races. But it can't be so too a specific,
• 49:21
  Speaker 19: you know. I just I think it's a really interesting See.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's just too a specific. But I
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: will say that I would put more heat on Chris
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Greer than McDaniel because I think they've had all of
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: those pieces on offense. Now this is the third season
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: and they've yet to address the offensive line. They've yet
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: to really bolster the defense. And what good at having
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: two great receivers If you lose your quarterback, Yeah, you know,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: so you have nothing to fall back on because you
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: can't run the ball without the threat of the pass. Obviously,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: because they couldn't run the ball the other day at all.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think everything the email are
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: said about McDaniel, I would say, is absolutely true. They
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: haven't beaten good teams and they fall apart without their quarterback.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: So what do you what exactly are you doing to
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: scheme it up and make us productive? Nothing.
• 50:08
  Speaker 20: It's interesting because I feel like when Mike McDaniel came
• 50:10
  Speaker 20: on the scene, he was like this young, quirky guy
• 50:12
  Speaker 20: and he just got so like lifted up by the
• 50:16
  Speaker 20: media and it's like, Okay, how much of that was
• 50:18
  Speaker 20: fluff and how much of it was like it's.
• 50:22
  Speaker 19: The type pants thing, and it's like, you know, he
• 50:25
  Speaker 19: still has type pants. So some of the type pants
• 50:27
  Speaker 19: apologists would tell you that a great offensive coordinator can
• 50:30
  Speaker 19: can make it work. He can scheme it up, you
• 50:32
  Speaker 19: know when you're seeing like, well, this type pants guy can't.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: See see I would say, yeah, I'm totally in agreement
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: with both of you, and I would say the criticism
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: that you're getting here in New England is similar in
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: that I understand that you have some shortcomings like you like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: like the emailer said, I'm sorry to keep calling him
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: the emailer, I forget his name, but he made so
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: many good points about the quarterback leaving and all the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: other teams that were able to not be anywhere near
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: as good but they but they were able to play.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I read off. Do you know that the scores by
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: quarter this season Miami.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Imagine this is cumulative.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Ten ten seven six, that's for the season.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it starts bad, gets worse.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would hammer the under in the first quarter
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: by the way the Patriots have squed seven in the
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: first quarter all season like that, But I would say
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: that I understand that you're limited offensively. You don't have
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of you know, they have a left tackle
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: who never plays in Tarren Armstein, right, So like that
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: that hurts your already offensive line is already weak, and
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: then the best player on it is out, you know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: much like David Andrews is probably going to be out
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: for the rest of the season. I understand all of that.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I understand that limitations personnel wise. I'm not expecting you
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: to be the high flying offense that you were, but
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: shouldn't you be a little better than this? Like can't
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: you scheme it up to do something a little bit
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: more than what they've done the last two games three
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: points and twelve points or whatever it's been the last
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: two games. And for the Patriots, I would say the
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: same thing, like I understand that you do not have
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: all pros at all these positions, you don't have a
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: lot of weapons on offense, but can't you move the
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: ball a little? Like Alex b and Peltz said today,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: like it was kind of striking to hear him say,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: we need to get in the red zone. Like most
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: times you say we got to be better in the
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: red zone. They don't have to be better in the
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: they have to get there, like they get to the
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: red zone like once a game, Like why can they
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: not move the ball at least a little.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: On the other hand, Jeffrey from Canada says, I honestly
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: think the Dolphins blow our doors off this week. I
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: think they see the Patriots as a get right game
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: and save their season. Whoever they start a quarterback will
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: only be marginally worse than our nine year journeyman. But
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: at every other position group they are better or the
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: same as we are. Talent wins out.
• 53:03
  Speaker 19: I feel like we haven't really talked about this game
• 53:05
  Speaker 19: much like I didn't want to talk about it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Well, I just I think talk about you talk about it.
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: I think it's a huge game.
• 53:11
  Speaker 19: I think it is a huge game, and I don't,
• 53:14
  Speaker 19: you know, like we get into must win that usually
• 53:16
  Speaker 19: relates to making the playoffs, But I don't. I can't
• 53:19
  Speaker 19: imagine what it's like around here next week if they
• 53:20
  Speaker 19: lose to the regime. Must win for the regime, for
• 53:24
  Speaker 19: the you know, for all the things that we talked about,
• 53:26
  Speaker 19: for why the Bengals win was huge, was some buying,
• 53:30
  Speaker 19: some validation all those words that we used, And not
• 53:33
  Speaker 19: to say that everybody's going to be out, but this
• 53:36
  Speaker 19: is the kind of game against a divisional opponent that
• 53:38
  Speaker 19: you should be competitive with year in and year out,
• 53:40
  Speaker 19: no matter what your team kind of looks like I
• 53:42
  Speaker 19: would expect, like these are the teams you know, well
• 53:44
  Speaker 19: we see it more often than not. I would say that,
• 53:46
  Speaker 19: and even going back to the dynasty that these games
• 53:49
  Speaker 19: were often tighter than you would expect. But what does
• 53:51
  Speaker 19: this look like next week if this Patriots team can't
• 53:53
  Speaker 19: beat Tyler Huntley.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: And the Dolphins.
• 53:55
  Speaker 19: You know, even when two years ago they were able
• 53:57
  Speaker 19: to beat a Dolphins team with a backup quarterbacks, so
• 54:00
  Speaker 19: that you know, that's what it kind of takes.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: But we know how bad those teams have been.
• 54:04
  Speaker 19: I just I see this as a must win game
• 54:06
  Speaker 19: for this team, and I don't know, And I think
• 54:08
  Speaker 19: Paul is right, like.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Must wear what for the fear of losing?
• 54:13
  Speaker 19: Some people problems and it's almost like you just have
• 54:17
  Speaker 19: to check the box because like get to the point
• 54:19
  Speaker 19: where everyone can make the foul claim next week that
• 54:22
  Speaker 19: they turn the corner there, like for me, it's like, well,
• 54:25
  Speaker 19: you know, like everyone's gonna see they shut out, like
• 54:27
  Speaker 19: like you have to earn a right to be able
• 54:30
  Speaker 19: to flex on this win. And you know, for me,
• 54:32
  Speaker 19: it's like you just have to check this box so
• 54:35
  Speaker 19: that it's not lookout below next week that we are
• 54:37
  Speaker 19: not Not only are we struggling in the division like
• 54:40
  Speaker 19: this is like we can't even beat backup quarterbacks.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: All that said, though what the emailer said, it is
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: probably true, you probably have a slightly better quarterback, but
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: every other position group at worst is a wash and
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: it's dolphins, and the Dolphins have edges at some of them.
• 54:56
  Speaker 19: And you still feel like you need to see something
• 54:57
  Speaker 19: from the Patriots, probably that you haven't seen yet this year,
• 55:00
  Speaker 19: I mean to the point of unsustainable.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: Like I mean, maybe you can can say that this
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: week that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 19: No turnovers, fast start and next if you know goods
• 55:07
  Speaker 19: finish all that stuff, and I'm sure it probably would,
• 55:10
  Speaker 19: but you're only a tyreeker Jalen Waddell, and we've seen
• 55:13
  Speaker 19: plenty of those over the year where they catch a
• 55:15
  Speaker 19: little slant no bye bye.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: I was glad to listen to hear Covington talk about
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: that today. You know, like they have those guys and
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: that's how they're gonna get it over the top, and
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: that's how they're gonna beat you, because I do think
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: that's what Miami. Miami watches tape two just like you do,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: and that's what that's what worked against So that's worked
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: for the Niners. And if I were Mike McDaniel, I'd
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: be looking to get the ball in those guys' hands
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: down the field.
• 55:39
  Speaker 19: That's what's scary this is because it's kind of a
• 55:41
  Speaker 19: must win, but it's not going to be easy, and
• 55:43
  Speaker 19: it only takes a couple of brain farts.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: We saw Gabrol Peppers in the in the locker room today,
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: Like I.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Just I don't want to lose both safeties.
• 55:50
  Speaker 19: You know, it doesn't sound like Dugger's going to be
• 55:52
  Speaker 19: out there, but you know, to roll out there with
• 55:54
  Speaker 19: maybe Jalen Hawkins and del Pettis playing most of the
• 55:57
  Speaker 19: safety snaps against those two players, it could take one
• 56:00
  Speaker 19: or two brain farts.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: And that's the difference in this game with how much
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: they both struggle to score.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike writes in I've heard a lot a phrase
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: a lot from both this show and others that quote.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Eventually Drake needs to play with various reasons, like he
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: needs to learn to play with pressure, or we need
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: to figure out what we have ignoring the disagreement we
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: have about what is reasonable pressure. I want to understand
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: what does eventually mean. I always interpret it as I've
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: waited long enough and I want this now. Is that right?
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: What are your individual bars when we actually reached Eventually?
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: For me, eventually doesn't apply to year one. Even if
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Drake would make games more fun.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: My definition is when he's ready.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, like if he's if he's.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Ready to play, I don't see any reason why he
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: keep trotting out a guy who's not as good as
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: he is physically.
• 56:51
  Speaker 19: Yeah, that's the internal thing, and that's we don't will
• 56:53
  Speaker 19: never know.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know the answer externally.
• 56:56
  Speaker 19: I'd say it's a week to week thing for me now,
• 56:58
  Speaker 19: and I think you know the way you later out
• 57:00
  Speaker 19: on Felgermass yesterday. I just not feeling great about nick
• 57:03
  Speaker 19: levertt first start at center for the Patriots. I mean,
• 57:06
  Speaker 19: you're gonna probably have to start Drape May behind nick
• 57:09
  Speaker 19: Levett this season if you put him in. So you
• 57:10
  Speaker 19: have to bite the bullet on that. But I'm in
• 57:12
  Speaker 19: a week to week basis, and that's kind of my
• 57:14
  Speaker 19: thing of this week. Why not this week? But if
• 57:16
  Speaker 19: they lose to the Dolphins and it's another lackluster effort
• 57:20
  Speaker 19: from the offense and Jacoby Brissette you feel like is
• 57:22
  Speaker 19: turning the ball over or missing throws that are there
• 57:24
  Speaker 19: and missing opportunities, then I don't know.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: It could happen as soon as next So.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I'll say two things about it, Like, again, to me,
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: it's more about Drake May than it is about everything
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: around him. And and Mike is right, like, we don't
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: know when the coaches think Drake May is ready mentally
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: to handle a game. But the other part is what
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: if Drake May is ready and he's playing well in
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: practice the way they gushed last week? Right, the coaches
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: have been we're all talking about how good he's playing.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: Players too.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Don't you think the players are going to look at
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: this at some point and say, why are we not
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: playing our best option at quarterback?
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Yep?
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: I mean just to echo on that, like the players
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: are saying it too. It's not just the coaches.
• 58:10
  Speaker 19: The players are telling multiple media members in the locker
• 58:12
  Speaker 19: room that he's really playing well in practice. So you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 19: it's not a campaign of don't worry. Everything's great behind
• 58:19
  Speaker 19: the scenes. I do think there are but you're right
• 58:21
  Speaker 19: at a certain point, if he's chucking the ball down,
• 58:23
  Speaker 19: you know, Pop Douglas is catching bombs in practice, and
• 58:25
  Speaker 19: then he.
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: Gets in and he's like, I'm getting open. She can't
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: give me the ball.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: And my feel is I want to get Drake May
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: as close to his potential as quickly as I can.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: It's less about I want to find out about him. Okay,
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: because virtually, no matter what happens this year, he's going
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: to be the quarterback next year. I don't need to
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: find out if he's going to be my quarterback in
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: twenty five. I don't need to find that out. I
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: know I just took him with a third overall pick.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: But let's just say he has a ceiling of being
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: a top ten qu quarterback. I want to get him
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: enough experience so he's as close to being a top
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: ten quarterback as quickly as I can. So I want
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: him to reach his ceiling in a year and a half,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: not three years. You know what I'm saying, Like the
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Packers will tell you, Oh, but the Packers will tell you, well,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: that's where you know it worked out for Jordan Love.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: That was great. They didn't have to wait three years
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: of misery to get there because they had Aaron Rodgers.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: You know, the Patriots don't have that same luxury. That's
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. I know that people are
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, people are people are scared to be young
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Montana ruining the guy, and I just don't think there's
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of examples of that.
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: Sorry, Alix No, I was talking over you too. But
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: that's the thing is so many people make that argument
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: of like, but.
• 59:48
  Speaker 20: This player waited, but this player waited, Okay, yeah, who
• 59:51
  Speaker 20: would want Aaron Rodgers to come out of a game
• 59:54
  Speaker 20: for you know what I mean, It's it's a totally
• 59:56
  Speaker 20: It's like Apples to Orange is It's such a different scenario.
• 59:58
  Speaker 19: That's yeah, that's like my what my perspective is is
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 19: this isn't changing horses mid stream, like this is a rebuild.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 19: This is a Drake May is going to take lumps,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 19: like he's going to have bad losses that he has
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 19: to learn from and use to you know, so next
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 19: time when he goes down to Miami or you know,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 19: has to play in Buffalo, that he's got something to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 19: build off of, and you know, he knows what these
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 19: defenses kind of look like and has some experience in
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 19: these different stadiums. But you know, it's not he's going
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 19: to step in and all of a sudden everything's going
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 19: to be roases again.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Vincent writes, and he wants to know what happened to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: the chat on YouTube. I'll be perfectly upfront with people.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: There's a few bad apples that were really nasty. So
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: we've shut down the chat on YouTube until such time
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: we can maybe implement some type of filtering software. Uh,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: you know, So it's unfortunate that some bad apples have
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: to ruin it for everybody else, but that's what we've
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: done from now.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Bad apple spoils the whole.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I'm done for now. So that's why the chat about this. Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: we had some racist people.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, those aren't good.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: That's not a bad apple, that's an a hole.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So but we'll get it back up once we
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: figure out how to filter certain things out.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: So just let me this is sort of what I'm
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: talking about. Like, and obviously we'd all sort of bite
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: the bullet if we turned out to be like this,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: but like Aaron Rodgers. Okay, so he had Brett Favre
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: and that's great. So they were able to not play
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: him for three full seasons. Okay, again, you had a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer playing instead, so you were able to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: But here's what I'm looking to avoid. In year four,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers takes over as the starter and they go
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: six and ten because he's not ready.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like you want to get the six
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: and ten this year?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I want to get the six and ten
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: out of the way as fast as I can, because
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: that's what happens to most of these guys. They're not
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: all like CJ. Stroud, right, and advance in the playoffs
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: as a rookie, you know so, and then all of
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: a sudden in year two he's eleven and five. I'm
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: looking to avoid the delay to start, followed by the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: delay to get good, followed by this is where we
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: want to be now. Obviously, if Drake May isn't good
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: for four years but turns out to be Aaron Rodgers,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: I think we'd all say, well, I'll take that. You're
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: probably not going to get four years to get good
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: the way Aaron Rodgers did.
• 1:02:25
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  Speaker 24: I think it really came down to execution. Uh, and
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  Speaker 24: you know and going forward, and obviously, you know, we
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  Speaker 24: got a new quarter of our season coming up right now.
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  Speaker 24: So the the the mindset is, you know kind of
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  Speaker 24: not to like clear the slate, but you got a
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  Speaker 24: get ready for essentially week one, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 7: And that's kind of where we are right now.
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  Speaker 24: And uh, you know a lot of guys excited about
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  Speaker 24: this opportunity as far as starting the second quarter of
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  Speaker 24: our season. Uh, you know, getting this thing off of
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  Speaker 24: the right foot. Obviously being at home, you know, have
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  Speaker 24: been at home for a while, so you know, get
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  Speaker 24: to play in front of our fans and and so yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, not at all.
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  Speaker 24: I mean we uh you know, that's kind of what
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  Speaker 24: different guys. So you know, obviously playing the game with Nick,
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  Speaker 24: you know, obviously being having that you know, rapport that's
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  Speaker 24: a good word, I just use, uh that rapport with
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  Speaker 7: Yeah it's tough man, that that would hurt me, you know.
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  Speaker 8: Uh, one of.
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  Speaker 24: The key reason why I wanted to come back here
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  Speaker 24: because of my past relationship with him, and and you know,
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  Speaker 24: it's tough when when a guy like that goes down,
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  Speaker 24: because you know, he's not going down.
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  Speaker 7: For anything minor, you know.
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  Speaker 24: Uh, you know, I talked to him morning and you know,
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  Speaker 24: come on, man, like you know, like as much as
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  Speaker 24: I would love for you too, but you know, it's
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  Speaker 24: just he means so much of his team, you know,
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  Speaker 24: not only just on the field, but off the field.
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  Speaker 24: You know, his presence, you know, in the locker room
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  Speaker 24: obviously in this community. He's been here for so long,
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  Speaker 24: and you know, it's it's like you wish you had
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  Speaker 24: you know, you know fifty three, you know, David Andrews.
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  Speaker 7: You know those things.
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  Speaker 25: That David bringing to the table that we don't get
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  Speaker 25: to see every day that you know, you get to
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  Speaker 25: see around him, and just you know, obviously the center
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  Speaker 25: position to.
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  Speaker 24: Be as important as this, I mean, I would say
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  Speaker 24: start with, you know, knowledge of the game, you know,
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  Speaker 24: I mean he kind of runs runs the show out there.
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  Speaker 24: I'm kind of just you know, co hosting when he's
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  Speaker 24: out there. You know, his toughness. I don't think people
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  Speaker 24: understand how tough he is, you know, and the things
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  Speaker 24: he's battled, you know, through his career and still you know,
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  Speaker 24: he's he's happy, go lucky to be out there and
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  Speaker 24: just a childlike energy, you know, and his his it
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  Speaker 24: in his play, you know, just speaks for himself. When
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  Speaker 24: you see him when he's healthy man in this and
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  Speaker 24: see him playing, it's it's like he's he's up there
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  Speaker 24: with the top guys in this league. And you know,
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  Speaker 24: I mean and the guy that has won a lot
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  Speaker 24: of football in this league and has seen a lot
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  Speaker 24: of football, and uh, you know, it's it's obvialy gonna
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  Speaker 24: be tough to to to fill that void. Uh you know,
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  Speaker 24: we obviously have to, but uh you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 24: it's tough losing him get sack.
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  Speaker 7: And with him.
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  Speaker 26: How do you avoid a pity party on your plight
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  Speaker 26: home from San Francisco, because you know what's happening.
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  Speaker 7: In the first quarter of time.
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  Speaker 24: Yeah, I don't think it's it's it's time for the
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  Speaker 24: pity party, you know what I mean. I don't think
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  Speaker 24: we have time for a pitty party.
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  Speaker 17: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, so.
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  Speaker 24: You know, we kind of understand like going forward, you
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  Speaker 24: know this second quarter. You know, Mayo kind of emphasized that,
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  Speaker 24: you know, our offse coordinator, dexcordinator, specially teams coach kind
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  Speaker 24: of emphasized that in our respectable rooms about you know,
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  Speaker 24: this second quarter of our season. Uh, you know, and
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  Speaker 24: the first quarter was what the first quarter was. You know,
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  Speaker 24: it's it's you know, it's no escaping it. But you
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  Speaker 24: get a chance to make a new second quarter, you know,
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  Speaker 24: and start new momentum and start uh you know, a
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  Speaker 24: new junction of the season, and a lot of guys
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  Speaker 24: and I know a lot of everybody is excited about
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  Speaker 24: that opportunity. Uh, you know, and and it starts today
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  Speaker 24: on Practicevield.
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  Speaker 26: We about reflecting, and you talked a lot about reflecting
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  Speaker 26: last week the last couple of days. How do you
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  Speaker 26: mentally kind of recouped, reprepared and get.
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  Speaker 7: Going again for a new game.
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  Speaker 24: Uh, that's part of the league, you know. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 24: the good thing was we had a long flight. The
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  Speaker 24: bad thing was it was a long flight, but uh,
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  Speaker 24: you know, you gotta couldn't sleep on the plane, so
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  Speaker 24: you know, you thought about the game, watch the game,
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  Speaker 24: and and kind of you know, flushed and and and
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  Speaker 24: kind of just moved on, you know, and then obviously
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  Speaker 24: come in and watched it, watch it with the team,
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  Speaker 24: and and and get our corrections and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, that's just how the league works. You know.
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  Speaker 24: You gotta you can't dwell on the pass, good or bad.
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  Speaker 24: You know, you kind of gotta keep keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, Miami this week, that was a previous stop for you.
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  Speaker 5: You played with two just durious you have your relationship
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  Speaker 5: with and reached out.
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  Speaker 7: To the Yeah, I mean we talked.
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  Speaker 24: We talked at the beginning of the season and then
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  Speaker 24: I think I sent him a text maybe I remember,
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  Speaker 24: but yeah, a relationship there. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 24: don't I don't want to see no player get injured,
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  Speaker 24: you know, no matter what what the case may be. Uh,
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  Speaker 24: you know, obviously somebody that I know for sure, you know,
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  Speaker 24: and uh, you know, just hoping that he continues to
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  Speaker 24: recover and get healthy.
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  Speaker 6: Healthy.
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  Speaker 9: Trugg just said, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, after the Bags went, that's not a.
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  Speaker 12: Sustainable way for the team to win going forward for
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  Speaker 12: the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 5: Not being able to score more than twenty points. Is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: that a message that he's communicated to offensive players.
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  Speaker 21: Behind the scenes and what ways do you see the
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  Speaker 21: team improving their ability to score more points in the game.
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  Speaker 7: Well, they mean in the offense.
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  Speaker 24: Yeah, he's definitely conveyed that message, and you know, and
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  Speaker 24: that's where we're working to try to do, you know,
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  Speaker 24: and figure out and uh, obviously we have game plans
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  Speaker 24: in place and things, and you know, we're trying to
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  Speaker 24: execute it. And that's when I kind of go back
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  Speaker 24: to the to the first question. It's just the execution,
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  Speaker 24: you know what I mean. And I think that's really
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  Speaker 24: what Gerard is really harpening on us about. It is
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  Speaker 24: just execution, and especially in a lot of those key
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  Speaker 24: moments in those situations in the parts of the game,
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  Speaker 24: you know, whether it's you know, first down coming out
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  Speaker 24: of off the sideline or you know, third downs, you know,
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  Speaker 24: stand on the field and things like that, because when
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  Speaker 24: we get get drives going, we get drives going, and
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  Speaker 24: then you know, obviously finishing in the red zone and
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  Speaker 24: and so you know, I definitely think this this quarter
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  Speaker 24: of our season is about us, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 24: in our execution and and really you know, kind of
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  Speaker 24: growing up as a team and as individuals.
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  Speaker 25: The other day, Gerard said schematically, he would like to
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  Speaker 25: see the offense to be able to pick the ball
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  Speaker 25: out a little bit more. Gre do you feel like
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  Speaker 25: you've been given an often the way of answers to
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  Speaker 25: be able to get rid of the before?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 24: I think it's a mixture of a lot of different things. Uh,
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  Speaker 24: but yeah, I want.
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  Speaker 27: I want to playoff Phil's question a little bit. Quarterbacks job,
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  Speaker 27: part of it isstry be able to read the field
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  Speaker 27: and make reads. You've been under pressure a lot, obviously,
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  Speaker 27: How does that pressure that you're under affect you in
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  Speaker 27: terms reads you're able to make for individual place?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it definitely plays a part in it. Uh.
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  Speaker 24: And uh, that's the the good thing about being early
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 24: in the season and being able to you know, go
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  Speaker 24: back and watch the film and and now, like I said,
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  Speaker 24: it's the it's the second quarter. Now, So now how
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 24: do you, uh, you know, get to those reads faster?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 24: You know, get the ball out faster? And uh, And
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 24: I think that's the My job, obviously, and obviously a
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  Speaker 24: VP's job, and honestly all of our jobs really is
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  Speaker 24: to find ways to where where because teams are gonna
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 24: pressure us and we're we're very aware of that. So
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 24: now it's about how how do we answer and combat
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 24: that and moving forward.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 19: That you mentioned Jalen tolk trust that you had going
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  Speaker 19: down the field and against the Niners.
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  Speaker 7: That that's kind of the google behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we had the greatest quarterback in the history of
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  Speaker 3: Jay Jay Jay, Okay, goodbye Jay. We'll go down to Washington,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: d C. Richard. What's up, Richard?
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  Speaker 4: Richard, Matt, did you change something when you were doing
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: the talk back to us?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Because now I hear something, turn it up. I think
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: you did something. He's talking, but I don't think we
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: can hear him.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody's talking.
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  Speaker 3: No, Okay, Richard's not there. We'll go to Jacob in
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: North Carol. Jacob, come on, Jacob, Jacob he is yes,
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  Speaker 3: Hey Jacob.
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  Speaker 14: Hey, uh, big big fan of though I love watching listening.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 14: I know recently there's been a lot of talk about
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 14: like Rimandre and his uh his fumbles and everything, and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 14: people ask Mayo some questions about if he could be
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 14: bench potentially because of that. I just want to get
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 14: your guys' take on how does that apply to like
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 14: the quarterback position, because I know Brissette really hasn't been
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 14: turning the ball over very much, but this past week unfortunately,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 14: there were some uh some turnovers on his end. When
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 14: does when does that come into play at the quarterback position?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think in general that's a good question.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: When Drake may is ready, it's my it's my pad answer.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: But also what I think it meant like the same
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: rules for you you bench a guy who fumbles too much,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Is it the same rules for a quarterback?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Ah, if he's not playing well consistently, that's when quarterback
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: get benched.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it has to be like if it's a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: if it's a good quarterback, he has to be played
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: really bad for a while. Right.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: No, but yeah, it would be a different situation if
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, like mac Jones got benched.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: But a lot of people said that Bill kind of
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: mishandled that.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm talking about last year. Mack Jones was
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: playing Polly for the first half of the season. Bailey's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: happy played the rest of the season.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Now, if you have like a situation like in Jacksonville,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence hasn't played well, but he's clearly their franchise quarterback.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: He's probably going to continue to be their their quarterback
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: until they decide he's not the quarterback anymore, and then
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: you move on and he goes somewhere else, Right, Daniel
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: Jones with the Giants, Right, you know.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 19: It's just hard to draw a comparison with a running
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 19: back who's fumbled in all four games and lost in
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 19: the last two.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way five in a row going
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: back to last year to him.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 19: So wow, that's that's a good stat I mean for
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 19: a quarterback, would that be like two to three interceptions
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 19: four games in a row.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: I mean it's it's it's hard to do it as a.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: Running back like that.
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  Speaker 19: I think that's why there's just so much attention and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 19: on Stevenson with this.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: Yep, but I'm guessing maybe he doesn't start.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 19: They you know, get Gibson, get going, you know, hasty
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 19: a little bit, and then you bring Remondra in when
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 19: you feel like, all right, this is the time, like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 19: the games in question, we need you now come in,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 19: don't fumble help you know, that's maybe how you try
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 19: to break it tough one.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: Then you gotta put him in.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: Win the game?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Does he win the game? And the storyline for the
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: post game show is Gerard Mayo pushing all the buttons. Right,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: We'll give us something to talk about him.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: Chad's in Dallas, Hey, Chad.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 13: Hey helps going? I make this quick. I was hopefully
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 13: somebody can clarify this for me. But I know we're
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 13: talking about Jake may starting and not and I think
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 13: that's kind of is what it is at this point.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 13: But we're also blaming the offensive coordinator for having bad
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 13: plays or whatever is whatever he's doing wrong. I don't know.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 13: I'm just a football fan. But what did y'all think
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 13: it'd be worse if we start them this year? Sometimes
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 13: that's fine. They're firing fire the offensive coordinator. They're part
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 13: of the new offense COORDINATORD next year. Then it kind
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 13: of seems like we did Jets over again.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think I agree with that.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: think Alex van Pelt's going to get for do you.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: No, not next, not this year, not after one?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Right, No, you can't judge him by this year.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, well I could, but I don't think that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: that will happen. I think I think they're sort of
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: doing what they thought they were going to be doing.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: I think this is kind of part of a larger plan. Yeah,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: bringing May along slowly.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Jason Minnesota, what's up? Jay?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 11: Hello, guys. A couple of questions. So do you think
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 11: that Elliott Wolf maybe is kicking down that wide receiver
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 11: and tackle position down for next year to get some
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 11: young talent, because Jason Peters I heard got signed to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 11: Seattle and Dadams we haven't even reached out, it seems like.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 11: So I feel like we're kind of just worrying about
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 11: what's going on right now and then just worrying about
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 11: it next year.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: Possibly.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 11: Also, do you think there's yeah, do you think there's
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 11: any pressure from Robert Craft to maybe play may or
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 11: if there's any questions on like, all right, the product
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 11: doesn't look good while I'm not playing our number three
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 11: guy right now. I think how you get ready is
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 11: about playing. I don't think that you can get ready
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 11: by just sitting there and waiting and waiting and waiting.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 11: I mean, like you said, Paul Aaron Rodgers went six
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 11: and eleven, right, and then the next year he did well.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 11: I think that he got ready by playing.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I feel.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: I hope, I hope exactly.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: I hope there is no pressure either way to play
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: or not to play from ownership. That's not where we're
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: looking for now, I do.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 26: I do.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: I would imagine that maybe Robert Kraft stops down every
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: once in a while and says, oh, so, well, how's.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: The kids, and maybe they're really living dangerous.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: The last couple of shows, maybe through the questions he asks,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: his opinion comes through whether or not should play. But
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: I hope that ownership is not putting pressure on these
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: this young staff or this new staff to do it
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: either way. You know, let them. You paid them to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: do a job. Let them do their job.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: And as far as everything Drat has said, that's how
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 9: it is.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 20: It's every everything he said on the record is that
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 20: mister Craft is just letting them do their thing and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 20: work it all out.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 19: So yep, yeah, I mean not certainly, not after four games.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 19: I mean I think maybe, you know, I mean, are
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 19: there are people out there that think, like Trick, they
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 19: can't play next season either? Like I don't know, I
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 19: haven't heard that yet, but I'm assuming there's probably somebody
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 19: out there.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 9: You just put it out there.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Could you imagine, like Aaron Rodgers said, three full seasons?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: Could you imagine if that happened.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine that.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Well, it would be okay to tolerate if we had
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Tom or Brett fav or whoever it is. You know,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: that's the difference. We wouldn't be worried about it. Wow,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: Let the kids sit, we're winning games, we're in the playoffs.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: There's any chance that that's not the case.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 19: If they resigned your colt next year for whatever purpose?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 19: Like yeah, I mean is that a potential slides to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 19: the backup role and likes being here kind of thing?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, as long as yeah, why not?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: I mean now I'm angry.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: As a backup.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: I don't want that.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: No? Why not? Who you need a backup?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: Joe Milton?
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: You need a backup?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, why do they draft him if they don't
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: think he can eventually.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Be okay, veteran voice in the locker room?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: Maybe yeah, No, I don't know if Prisetts at that point.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: Like having Brian Hoyer on your staff. That's not a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: that's a positive, you know, like why not have Brian Hoyer?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: You know, That's why I asked. But I just I
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: feel like if May doesn't play all that much, no, no,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: But and then.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: It's rare, no, they like I'm showing growth alone.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 19: Before free agency, they signed Yakobe Rissette to a you know,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 19: a one year extension before free agency, and then people
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 19: start to say, well, maybe, you know, maybe they're not
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 19: so sure about Drake they want to have a little
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 19: bit of insurance, like you know, they they're not sure
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 19: if he's ready to say, I don't know. I mean,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 19: that's you know how these things kind of tend a snowball.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: Mike gets me in a dark place now and then
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, it's not really where
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: we wanted it to be, not as much, and then
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do We're gonna do what we the comfortable thing.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: If that happened, and we're going to go back to Jacob.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: Is just going to start the season. I'm not I'm
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: not in Well, that's why I'm not in on it.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think that would happen anyway. Cahoul and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Galway Ireland right, Sin, I'm not sure I agree that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: this is a must win or an easy win against
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Mike said, I think it's pretty.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: Close to a must win. I agree with Mike, But
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: I never ever did anybody on this show anyway say
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: it would be an easy one.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 17: No.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 19: In fact, I said, the hard part is having a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 19: must win game that you don't really know what to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 19: expect and the other team has the best weapons in
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 19: the game that can they they're the ones who can
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 19: affect the game instantly like this Patrio team. If the
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 19: game doesn't unfold the way that they get in a
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 19: little bit of a hole like it get, it gets
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 19: dicey really fast with this team, he said.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: Granted, Miami have been terrible to start the year and
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: trying to come to terms with losing two of but
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: man for man, their starters are far more talented than
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: the Patriots start is with exception of a quarterback, where
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: the Patriots might have a small and I mean small advantage.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: The Fins have underperformed so far, but I would be
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: much more confident of them reaching their level soon and
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: be more competitive then could that could easily happen this Sunday.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: I think we all agree the Patriots have been broadly
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: what we expected, so no real expectation for improvement from
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: this level. Also, just based on the injuries that the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Patriots currently have on the old line and potentially with
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: the safeties and cornerbacks, I'm expecting regression, especially with Andrews out.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: So to my mind, a win is not on the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: cards at all, and a big beating could be on
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: I think we should play some of these emails and
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: phone calls for fellder and mocked and rink. You don't
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: get much negativity on that show.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: It missed a bunch of idiots who live with their
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: heads underground and.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: They watch the games, they analyze. They when they see
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: what they see the same thing you see. Yeah, the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: the man for man thing with Miami. I I agree,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: I think that you know, this is probably an edge,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: but like Miami's offensive line is a mess too, just
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: like yours is. That's why they can't run the ball. Defensively,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: they're not great to begin with. They've been missing a
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: lot of personnel. David Long missed the last game for them,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: you know, much like Bentley has been out for the Patriots.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: That's kind of similar kind of role. You know, Kalaias
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: Campbell is a really good player up front, but yeah,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: he's a little long in the tooth. He's I don't
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: think he's going to dominate the way he say, like
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: Quentin Williams, did you know a couple of weeks ago
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: for the Jets. You know, Jalen Ramsey kind of similar.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: I think he's a really good player, but I don't
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: think he's the same guy that he was, you know,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: in his heyday. So yeah, I do think that probably
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: man for man, Miami has an edge of more spots
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: than the Patriots do, but it's not overwhelming without the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: offense to bolster everything. And if you know, I read
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: you the numbers, thirty three points in four games.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 19: To me, it just boils down to waddle on hill
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 19: and those two guys have the ability to impact the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 19: game on one dumb play that didn't really pop up
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 19: for them last week. But it's you know, like I said,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 19: it takes one brain fart by an undrafted Brookie named
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 19: del Patis who's playing all of a sudden on the
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 19: back end that he bites on something and it's six.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: And I will say that the one thing that does
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: worry me is the whole like I have Geno Smith
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: in my head because I so dismissed Geno Smith going
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: into that Seattle game. And you know, Tyler Huntley is
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: not as good as Geno Smith, you know, even coming
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: when Gino Smith got to Seattle, Gino Smith was more
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: accomplished with the Jets than Tyler Huntley is. But to
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: your point, all it takes is one good game. You
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: know what if the problems with containing the edges continues
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: it's happened three weeks in a row. What if it
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: happens again and all of a sudden he's getting out
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: of the pocket, making place with his legs and throwing
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: the ball around.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: You know, hey, have the buy started yet?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: They have?
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll do one more. Email Tyler from Providence.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: This is a who oh wait a minute, hold on
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: whoa whoa hold? Hold hold on, hold on, Tyler and
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: preempted has returned practice and then has returned has turned practice?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: Evan, Hello, Hello, hello, Hello. It's a lot longer these
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: days that were out there. I don't know what are
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: you doing out there anyways? Attendance wise, some somewhat good news.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: Jabriel Peppers was back at practice, but don't get too
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: excited over there. So he was out there for stretching
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: and then he left.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: We had a thing, it's all right, he's waiting.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: For that's a go to see guy by a horse
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: or something.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: But no, he he was.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: We talked about to him a little bit in the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: locker room, and you know, he didn't seem like too
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: worried that it's going to be long term. Kyle Duggart
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: not at practice still, that one sounds like it is going.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: It's tenuous for Sunday, I would say. And then obviously
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: David Andrews and Kayden Wallace also missing for the Patriots.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: David Andrews has been there physically, been there though.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: I think he starts his coaching career.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's sort of the vibe that we've gotten as well.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Mayo made the comparison to his twenty fourteen season when
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: he was on injured reserve. This is the opportunity to
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: maybe see if you like coaching, you know, if this
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: is something that you want to do in the future.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: So that was attendance.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: And then just obviously by not saying that we know
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: they're back, but Lowe's out there.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So Loo and Michael Jordan were out there yesterday,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: so we're born Taki, Taki, and Mapu. All three of
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: those guys are continuing to practice as well. And kJ
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: Osborn Horne was participating. He was a d MP yesterday,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: which is a little bit surprising because he was out
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: there when we were out there. So he was participating
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: in individuals when they kicked us out.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: So I noticed you came in here without your little windbreaker, correct,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: So I whether it's a little nicer. Is that disrespectful
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: spirits of you know, both the players and the media back.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: It's tough because we're in that part of the season
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: where is it hotter or is it cold? You don't know,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: or a sweatshirt and like too soon when you get
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: out there. It was like seventy degrees out there right now,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: so it's it's nice out Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, it
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: was a little little hot.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: What was what was the offensive line?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: So they were doing a little bit more mixing and
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: matching today than what we saw yesterday. Seemed like some
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: of those guys Leverett, Leyden Robinson popped up on the
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: injury report, so they didn't do as much yesterday. Today
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: we saw Leverett snapping a lot in the media portion,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: so he looks like he's he's back in that center
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: one spot, and then Leyden Robinson was getting some reps
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: next to him at right guard, so between him and city.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: So that still feels like it's a little bit up
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: in the air which direction they're going to go in.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: But the rest of it was the same. Low Jordan Leverett,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: right guard, Yeah.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: He's Robinson, okay, And any issues with the media, anything
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: that they need to get off their chest or.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: No, no, no issues today. You know, we have this
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: new structure of take attendance during stretching. Then they kick
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: us out for a period and then we get to
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: come back for a period. So that's why it takes
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: so long and you know, to get through everything, but
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: it's been worth it. We get to see the offensive
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: line combination, which is obviously a huge story right now.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Mark Daniel's on the radio this morning, and I guess
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: he's given credit for breaking the David Andrews news.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, is that right? Good for him?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: I mean that was the Paulest thing ever. Okay, Okay,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: in this day and age, with this new regime, like
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: they'll tell you what's going on, you don't have to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: break anything, you know.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure they would have said what they
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: said the press conference if it hadn't been out there.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: I think Girodd said specifically, well it's out there now.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: So anyway, okay, all right, so try to be a reporter.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: Fred, is that time of the week, the month, what happened?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: What's going on with it?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: Curious?
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: So a little bit of order restoration is what I
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: would say, Paul, Fred and Paul eleven and five.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: Why I was a little bit of order. It wasn't
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: order being reduced.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Correct correct, Plus it hasn't been completely restored. I have
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: still I have some catching up to you. Alex and
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: Evan nine and seven and Mike eight and eight.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Terrible, you're not good at this.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: And Fred with the spread Paul ten and six. He's
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: followed by Alex and Evan at nine and seven and
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Mike and Fred at seven and nine. So here are
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: the current standings. Alex and Paul thirty six and twenty eight.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: It's really bad, by the way, that's the best record
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: we have just picking winners. That's not everybody shape it up.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 20: Yeah, but if there's a person out there that has
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 20: a survivor pool that's still like intact, they shouldn't.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: Wow. Not that just joking around. Fred thirty five and
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: twenty nine, So only one game off the pace, Evan
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: thirty four thirty and Mike thirty three and thirty one.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: Four weeks of just making winners.
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  Speaker 5: What's the term.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: Quite bet against Mike? So with the spread, yeah, fade
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: deuce with the spread. Fred is still on top, but
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: he has company now. Fred, Alex and Evan all at
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: thirty four twenty eight and two, followed by Mike at
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: thirty one thirty one and two and Paul thirty thirty
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: two in two. So I am still in last place,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: but coming up. Those are the footsteps.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: You're here, We're here in the foot size, all right,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: teams on the fib to get real. There's four teams
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: on buys this week. The Lions, the Chargers, the Eagles,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: oh my Titans. So you won't be hearing them mentioned.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: Let's go to tonight. We have to hurry. On fifteen
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  Speaker 3: on Prime Video. It's the three and one Buccaneers against
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: the two and two Falcons.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: The Falcons by one and a half.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 19: One and a Hey, I'm gonna go with the Tampa
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 19: Bay Bucks. Somebody bounced back a little bit last week.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 19: I'm gonna take Tampa and I will grab that point
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 19: one point five please.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 9: Hmm. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Bucks as well.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: Now I'm worried that Dud's picked the Bucks, so I know,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: I'm just kid. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: the Baker Bucks. I'm just I am not sold on
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: Atlanta yet. I'm not buying it yet.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the home team Atlanta. I think the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Thursday night home thing is legit, so I'm gonna do that.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: But I do feel like I've given away a lot
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: of these Thursday night games. I can't get my week
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: off to a good start. But I'm gonna take the Falcons.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: No, Paul's right, Falcons win. Not only is it a Thursday,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: but it's the divisional game, and you gotta kind of
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: look at these differently a little bit. So I look
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: at the Falcons.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: Baker are not going to be baking tonight.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: No, it's not a matter of Baker Baker because as
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: we know, the league is better with a minute. But
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: I think the Falcons pull off this divisional win. All right.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: So now Sunday, nine to thirty in the morning, Eastern
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: Time on NFL Network.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: Which you guys figured that out. There will be some
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: red zone action fall on the pregame and post.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: It's the two and two Jets against the four and
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: oh Vikings. And I'm assuming this is in London.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: It is, it's at the the other one, not Tottenham
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: Hot Spur, Vikings by two and a half.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 19: I saw, unfortunately, our friend Evan getting a little roasted
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 19: online about freezing hot tastes exposed Evan. Evan said, oh,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 19: Sam Darnold is eventually going to fall apart, which still
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 19: very well could be true.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: Everyone's just like last four weeks.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: The exact phrase was s the bed.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: Taking picture your laps in week four.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: But I don't I'm not gonna say it's this week.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: There's something just off with the Jets. For me, I'm
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: gonna go with the Minnesota lay the points.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 20: Sam Donald has been burning me, but I don't know.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 20: Jets probably have a quicker flight to London. Minnesota's just
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 20: I feel like they gotta lose at some point, right, No,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 20: I'm gonna I'm gonna pick Minnesota.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: Today.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 9: The Jets cover.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, the Jets cover.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: So last week I get old takes exposed and then
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: I'm watching the box score, Donald interception, Donald fumble. All
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, the Packers come back, and I'm like,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: maybe spoke a little too soon there, old takes exposed.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: How about that? I want to see you old take exposed.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: With more people than I do.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: I was really if they had if the Packers had
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: come back and won that game, you know exactly what
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: I was doing. Quote tweet.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, good job.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: I was hoping for it. And on that note, I'm
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: going to go with the Jets. I just think that
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: they're going to travel a little bit better in this game,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: and the Minnesota has got to lose at some point.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: They're not going to go.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the last thing that Evan said is what I'm
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: going with. I just I think the Vikings are a
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: great story. I think they're a pretty good team. I'm
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: not sure they are five and o team. They got
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: to lose at some point. I'm going to take the
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: Jets to bounce back.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, believe it or not, I am too. I'm going
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: to take the Jets to win. Aaron Rodgers playing in Minnesota.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: He's played Minnesota a few.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: Times he has played.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: Has he played him in London? But I don't know. Yeah,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say he hasn't because I don't know.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: So I will go with the Jets. Fox one o'clock,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: the one and three Panthers are at the two and
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: two Bears.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: Chicago by four.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 27: Four.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 19: I think the Indie Dalton Magic ran out last week.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 19: I'm gonna I'm just gonna go with the home team here.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 19: Caleb Williams continuing show some growth even if he's not
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 19: putting up high production.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with the home team.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 9: Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the home team. But I'm gonna
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: take those points for the Panthers. I don't think either
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: one of these lout of respect for the Pants. I
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: don't think either one of these teams is very good
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: right now. Chicago might be at some point, So I'm
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: gonna say three point win for the Bears.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: I'm tempted to do the same, but I'm not going to.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Chicago both ways. I think the Panthers
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: offense has looked good in both games that Dalton has played,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: but al I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Bears.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, money line parlay looks good here, so I will
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: take the Bears both ways.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 7: I don't know what that mean.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: That was awesome. Nothing.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know that was awesome.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: Mine was nonverbal. It was a nonverbal reaction.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Uh, CBS one o'clock the two and two Ravens. Who
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: much respect to the Ravens for your last two wins?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: H two and two Ravens at the one in three Bengals.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, John, Yeah, yeah, no, Fred Yeah, Fred's okay. I'll
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: let him know. John Harbos is, thank you appreciates the support.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: Tell him, of course, because that's what the kids say.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: The kids these days, they don't say you're welcome anymore.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: They just say of course, right, I have noticed that
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: say that of course.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: Of course I take that.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 20: I waitress with a girl who someone was like, see
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 20: she got like in trouble from this older woman for saying.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 9: Of course, Karen, Karen.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: Oh. The wait staff do it all the time.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 20: They all say of course, Well it's like of course,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 20: like it's no issue, like I'm happy to do this.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: No, but acknowledge that I thanked. You don't say of course,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: like I shouldn't think.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 9: What do you say back to thank you?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: You're welcome?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 9: Welcome of course, so like you're welcome.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: It's the same thing generation you're welcome even like of.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: Course it's my job to do this, right, but I'm
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: going to I still want to thank you your drink
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: because you ordered it.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: I still yeah, I know, I know what's your job,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: but I still want to thank you.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: What about worries, No worries kind of.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: Bugs me, No worries, no wor to admit I do
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: no worries in a text.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: A lot, and here I'm not worried, right, I just
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: want to thank you well.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 9: Generation don't worry about it.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: No worries about It's not a problem that I thank you.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: I don't want to, I would say anyway, the Ravens
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: by two and a half on the road, Yeah, I'm
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna stick with Baltimore the way they're playing
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 19: Cincinnati trying to find spark after last week, build on it,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 19: but I don't think it happens against the division.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: I'll take Baltimore.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 20: Yeah, Baltimore, Baltimore. I very much enjoy watching Lamarch Accident
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 20: Derek Henry played together.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: I did like Joe Burrow came out pretty fired up
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: yesterday and it was like, I gotta beat the Ravens
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: like they have my number. But I'm gonna go Baltimore here.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: I just I think they're starting to roll a little bit.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: I think Evan might have just changed my pick so that, like,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: I is there a thing that I that I was
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: not aware of.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: I think he's implying that the Ravens owned the Bengals.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: That's what it was implying he he came out in
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: this press conference and was like, I gotta beat Baltimore.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: So it kind of felt like that I have I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: don't have any data to put too much on it.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: See if I can look it up real quick.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna roll the dice anyway. I'm
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: gonna take Cincinnati. Uh, the home dog to me. I
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: don't know if you heard this one before. Bark's loudest.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: That dog barks.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's lost three of the last four and two
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: in a row.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: That's unfortunate.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: The Bees after the Bengals.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: The Bengals, Bro, you were determined to all of us
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: in trouble.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no way, Ravens. Both ways. Let's go CBS one o'clock.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: The three and one Bills are at the three and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: one Texans.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: This should be a good game. The Bills by one.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: Heck of a game.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Heck of a game.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: Love it.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 19: I see they're talking about a Stefan Digg's revenge game.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 19: I didn't have a chance to read the article. I
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 19: guess there's the inside the divorce article.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: By Jeremy Fowler.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: I did not read it.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 19: I'm okay, yeah, an any good inside of what a
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 19: jerk hole Stefan dig that's right, that's right.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: You heard it here first.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: Can you call John Harbo back and tell him I
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: said that I'm gonna go. It's just tough one. I'm
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: gonna go with with Houston at home though, Home Dogs.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: What did you say? Home dogs? Barked the loudest, so correct.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 9: I think Buffalo bounces back after the loss last week.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 9: Buffalo Buffalo.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with Alex on this at the one o'clock game.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: Not as many eyeballs on the Bills. I think they
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: bounce back.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: Like the Bills in this one too. Houston I think
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: is good, but I think they've sort of been given
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: a spot that they haven't risen to yet. Yeah, sort
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: of perception wise. You know, they were life and death
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: with a winless team last week.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: They're knocking on the door, but they're not a Yeah,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: so I'm gonna take.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: The Bills to bout it said that Houston.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 7: Window.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Texans Paul knows what this means.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: It means I dream, I dream of Genie disappears.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the Texans uh CBS one o'clock. The two
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: and two Colts are at the oh and four Jackuars.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville by three, and this is one the Jaguars own
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: the Colts that one I'm aware of.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: It's a really hard game.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: To health status of Anthony Richardson, I do not know.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: I did not know until this very day.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: He's banged up, but he's gonna go.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: But I I don't know.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 19: I just I haven't seen enough of Jacksonville because he
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 19: can maybe tell from my picks. But I'm gonna go
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 19: with Jacksonville at home to hold indies just seems so
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 19: up and down.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, on the basis that I feel like Jacksonville has
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 9: to win a game at some point. I think it's sweet.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 9: But I'll let the Colts cover.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: Oh you're gonna let them cover.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 9: Allow them they want, only if they want.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: So Anthony Richardson is that practice. But he's banged up
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: and he's getting defensive about his injury prone labab. So
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: that's where we're apt. I'm gonna go Jacksonville too. I
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: think they're not gonna go oh in seventeen, just like
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: I said the Vikings aren't gonna go seventeen and oh,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: so I'll take the Jaguars.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna stick with the Trent the AFC cellth
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: trend that Jacksonville has on them, So I'll take Jacksonville too.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go Jacksonville. I think Lawrence played better
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: last week, even in the loss, but I will take
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: the points just to hedge my bet.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: Would you trade Drake May for Trevor Lawrence right now?
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: I might.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 6: Going back to the magic.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't know.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: And I like Trevor Lawrence. I agree with fred. I
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: don't think he has been quote capital t capital p
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: the problem. There's more stuff going on with him. I mean,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: it might be his fault with the static between he
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: and Peterson, but that's to me the bigger issue than
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: his play. But he hasn't played well. Not trying to
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: say he had no he has.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: I like Trevor Lawrence, but he has not played well
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: to turnovers, Fox Hunt one one in three Browns with
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: dew Wash Watson against the three and one Commanders.
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  Speaker 4: Rookie of the Month Washington by three and a half.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 19: I mean, I do think Jane Dale's gonna have a
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 19: game where he struggles a little bit, but I and
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  Speaker 19: I'd like to say, I think it's Cleveland's defense, who
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 19: is pretty good, pretty aggressive shoot but I'm not gonna
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 19: do it this week.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Washington.
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  Speaker 5: I don't love it.
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  Speaker 19: I like Cleveland's defense. I think they'll make it hard
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 19: on him, but I'm gonna take a Washington. I'll take
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 19: the hook though for Cleveland, keeping.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: Good use of the hook.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: Mike, I'm I'm going to do the same thing. I
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 5: am tempted to take Cleveland because of the defense against
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: the rookie quarterback, but I don't have this stumbling for it.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: I'm taking Washington. I think Daniels looks great. It's not
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: gonna take the Commandos.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: So I am gonna this is my listen, promise, this
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: is the last week. Hey, I think more of the
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: Browns than they've shown, and be I just can't imagine
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: that Washington is just this good, magically, this fast. That's
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: what I thought last week, and they put forty two
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: up in the desert.
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  Speaker 19: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Cleveland. I don't know why, but this
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: is it. I promise Jayden and Daniels, this is it.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: I will You'll have me if you prove me.
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  Speaker 6: He just texted me.
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  Speaker 4: Promise, promise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Browns too, you know, I
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: just think that, Uh, he's gonna have ups and downs.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: Jade Daniels, maybe this is a down week. I don't know.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know either.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: I definitely, like Paul.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: Said, like if the kid doesn't, kudos to him. All
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: Right now, we're gonna skip over the Patriots at one
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: o'clock and we're gonna go to four oh five. The
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: two and two Raiders are at the two and two Broncos.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: Broncos by two and a half.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 19: Oh man, I mean, oh man, I'd like to know
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 19: what the what the temperature test is right now? With
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 19: DeVante Adams wanting out, how are we feeling in Vegas
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 19: right now? Where the Raiders all still bought in ready
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 19: to go to Denver and play in that elevation. It's
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 19: pretty tough, you know there, but bo Nicks throwing picks,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 19: he's not good.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with a Vegas I don't know. I mean,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: it's just on Vegas. It's a hard one. What was
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: the line, two and a half. Yeah, I'll take Vegas hunderdogs.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 9: I'm going to go to the home team, Denver.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: I think Denver's defense is playing really well. I'm gonna
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 5: go Denver. Denver on this one. The Raiders are they're
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: the Titanic right now, they're they might be.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: I know, yeah, I'm going to take Denver both ways. Also,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: I think both teams stink and I'd go with the
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: home team in those situations.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: In general, this is your lock of the week. Oh,
• 1:49:12
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  Speaker 4: So did you take the Broncos in that game?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I said it's it's the lack of the week.
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  Speaker 19: Is that going to be a part of the newsletter too?
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• 1:49:55
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  Speaker 5: Disclaimer.
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  Speaker 6: The one and three.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: Cardinals are at the two and two forty.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: Niners by seven, which is the biggest spread of the week.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 19: This is the biggest spread of the week. And yeah,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 19: I impressed with San Francisco. I didn't even think they
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 19: played all that great, but they still managed to handle the.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: Patriots pretty easily. I'm gonna take San Francisco. But division game,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, they're kind of explosive. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: take the points.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be closer than that.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the spread's too big for me too. I'm doing
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 9: the same thing Mike.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: Is Niners role Niners Niners.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go Niners both ways too. I was
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: disappointed with the Cardinals last week. They didn't really didn't
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: really put up much of a fight. I'll take Theniners.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Cardinals to win outright. Yep. NNC
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: West game.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: Now that is an upset. I'm like the normal upsets that.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: After the game, I was listening to like a local
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: broadcast radio broadcast of forty nine Ers and they were like,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: forty nine didn't play well today. They have problems.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: They didn't.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so very patriot.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: I think that those problems roll into this week, and
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals catch them at the right time.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: We won by thirty, but we stink.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't say they stunk, but they didn't play great.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: On CBS, the two and two Packers are at the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: one in three. Stafford Perillo rams.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: The lar I don't even know who's playing for the
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: Lar getting three at home green Bay.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: By three, Well you get three for being at home.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're underdogs by three.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: Oh it's even now.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: Now they're underdogs by six.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: Six. Thank you, thank you, thank you? Yeah, how's this
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: my blood pressure to just race? Yeah?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 19: I tried to go with green Bay last week. It
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 19: didn't work out, but I'll you're right. It's hard to
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 19: underrate Stafford though, Like I feel like he's still good
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 19: enough that he can change a game. But I'll go
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 19: with green Bay on the road and I'll lay the points.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 9: Go pack go.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: I was literally gonna say the same.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 9: We sit next to each other now, so go packed up.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: I feel like when I watched the Packers, I'm hopefully
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: watching the Patriots future unfold right before my baby. So
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: I'm like, if the Packers win, that means good news
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: for the Patriots long term. So I'm a Packers fan.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Packers. This will be a
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: home game for them. I'm sure they'll have you know, yeah,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: thousands of cheeseheads. Just the Rams have nothing. They're going
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: into these games with absolutely nothing to punch back with,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: not even to too Karen Williams, I will talk about it.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: I will go with the Packers as well. Four on CBS,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: the one and three Giants are at the three and
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: one Seahawks.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: Seahawks by six and a half.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: Oh that's a big one. But y'all know me. I'm
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: not afraid to pick Seattle at home. Big.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 19: It's a tough place to play. Giants gotta go all
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 19: the way across the country. They got some questions. I'm
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 19: gonna take Seattle. I'm gonna lay the point.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: Seattle bag.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, double Seahawks.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm doing the same thing. Number one offense in
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: the league in DVOA, the Seattle Seahawks right now, best
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: offense in football statistically, So they're gonna put up some
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: points every day.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: Smith.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, I stand by my bad takes.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: I said that a couple of weeks ago, and he's
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: played great.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 6: That's supposed to me. I had no take on him,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: so I can't.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: I uh, I don't try to pretend it. I didn't
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: say things. That's what I mean, like they do on
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: the radio. Seahawks, I'll take both ways.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Seahawks both ways. Sunday Night, eight twenty
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: on NBC, Universo and Telexeitos, the two and two Cowboys
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: are at the three and one Steeler.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: Usually this is what we usually say.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: In Peacocks and m Peacock for us.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: Nice seventies throwback game right here, Fred. When I think
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: of Dallas and Pittsburgh, I think of Super.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: Bowl teams that used to be getting thirteen.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh by two and a half.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 19: I had like that old Pittsburgh stadium too, that like
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 19: had like it looked like they're playing on cement that
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 19: was like spray painted green, basically River Stadium.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Dallas on the road. Take those points,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: me too. Dallas is such a better team, but they
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: smell right now, there's something off about that team. But
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 5: I'm still gonna take Dallas. I'll just take the talent.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: I just think they're much better.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of agree, Dallas to me is a
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 4: better team, but no, no, Micah Parsons. Right, I'm gonna
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: take the Cowboys anyway.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: It's amazing the respect the Cowboys get after losing every
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: year talent. Yeah, but I'm gonna take the Cowboys.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: All right. So now we go to Monday Night ESPN,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: ESPN two, ESPN Deportes. The two and two Saints are
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: at the four and oh Chiefs.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: How about them Saints getting that primetime slot?
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chiefs by five and a half.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: No brainer for me.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 19: Continue to roll with Kansas City to win. I don't
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 19: love laying all those points, but I will.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 9: I'll take the Chiefs. I'll let allow the Saints to cover.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: I'm going to do the same thing the Chiefs. Who's
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: playing out wide receiver for Kansas City right now?
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: We have no idea.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 9: Did you see the thing with Rice's mom?
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Was that real?
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 9: I think so. It's being reported like it's real, But
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to be on record saying I'm not
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: buying it.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 20: Neither did she Allegedly she stole a package from someone's
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 20: door and got caught on a ring camera and she
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 20: was wearing a Mama Rice jersey.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: That was not great.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: Your sons in the NFL. He can just buy you
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: whatever it is that you want.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: That's the beauty of it.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to take the Chiefs to win, but
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: I'm didn't take the Saints to cover just because I
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: don't know how many points the Chiefs are going to
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: be able to plenty.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a good spot for the for the
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: Saints with all the stuff that you guys are talking about.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be with Mike, though. I'm gonna take the
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Chiefs until they lose the shop.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: The shops are chalking this and they they say it's
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: a cover, not a cover.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: No, who's winning, So they're gonna have more.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: The Chiefs are gonna win.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: Chiefs are gonna win, but.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: The Saints are going to with everybody else. They're not
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: gonna lose by the cover, by the Okay.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: So somehow we only have four minutes left in the
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: show after all that, hurry in.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: So go for the money line.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 6: But we can finally talk about Miami a little.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: Bit there, all right, So now we go back to
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: Sunday at one on Fox. A lot of Fox Patriots
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: games this year.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: I don't care for it.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: One in three Dolphins are at the one in three Patriots.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: The Patriots by one.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: Hey, we're favored first time.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 6: No one asked me about that this week.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: I thought maybe I was gonna take the Dolphins to cover.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 19: But that's great, all right, I'm gonna I can't pick
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 19: against the Patriots in the situation I said, I think
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 19: it's a must win kind of a game for them.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 19: I think it's going to be a tractor pull. You
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 19: can't let the big plays happen with those two guys.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 19: I think that'll change the dynamic really quick, and Patriots
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 19: struggle to come back. They do give up a couple
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 19: scores that that could be the difference. So hopefully they
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 19: play tight on the back end, they keep Hill and
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 19: Waddle in check. I still think it's not gonna be
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 19: a lot of points. I'll go Patriots thirteen to.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 9: Ten, Patriots fourteen, Miami twelve.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: Fourteen to twelve. Okay, it's a third grade basketball game.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't love either picking eye of these
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 5: teams right now. I would stay away from this game
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: if I could. Miami offensively, they still are generating open
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: receivers down the field. Their quarterback just cannot get them
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: the football, so that does worry me a little bit
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: because the BYD squirrel finds it not every once in
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: a while, and all it takes is one seventy yard
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: touchdown at Tyreek Hill and then that's basically game if
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: here the Patriots PI and yeah, so I am going
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: to take the Patriots, but I don't like it. I'm
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: gonna say fifteen thirteen Joey Sly game winning field goal.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: As time expires, we all see similar kinds of game unfolding.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: I do like the Patriots in the spot. I think,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: unlike Miami, the Patriots are not completely defeated. I think
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: Miami had aspirations. They're obviously not, you know, meeting them
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 4: because of a variety of issues. I'm gonna go thirteen
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: to nine.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: Know, Patriots, Patriots are going to shock the world this week,
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna score twenty one points the bar.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 4: So that might be the saddest statement that we've ever
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: uttered on this show.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: Twenty one to ten, Patriots easily covering that one point spread, easily.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: Trust some respect.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: So chalk, schalk, this is a chalk game. Shock.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: Imagine saying they're going to shock the world score twenty one.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's the joke.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: I know it is a joke. You're right to meet it.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: Styling all right, that's going to be there for this
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