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- 0:06Hello, and welcome to the Muppets.
- 0:08Mayhem backstage, pass, the unofficial Companion podcast to
- 0:12The Muppets Mayhem presented by tough pics.com.
- 0:15This is the podcast for wheat tour through every episode of
- 0:18The Muppets Mayhem to uncover, behind-the-scenes stories,
- 0:20Easter eggs and more with The Talented cast and crew, who
- 0:23helped put the series together. I'm your host dedicated may head
- 0:27Johannes. Today, we are talking about
- 0:30Track for The Times, They Are A-Changin in which the band
- 0:33collaborates with a bunch of musicians and sisters, Nora and
- 0:36Hannah, don't collaborate with each other at all this week.
- 0:40We are simply bursting with amazing guess.
- 0:42First up, he's a co-creator and executive producer of The
- 0:44Muppets Mayhem. Please welcome, Jeff.
- 0:46York's back to the podcast. Hey Jeff.
- 0:48Hi. Thanks for having me back.
- 0:51Thanks for coming back. You made it next up.
- 0:54He's another co-creator and executive producer as well as
- 0:57the performer behind that consummate I've read.
- 1:00Tickler dr. Teeth please welcome Bill
- 1:02Beretta back to the podcast. Hello Bill.
- 1:04Hmm, there's an ambulance going by next up, an actress who has
- 1:13appeared on the grassy. The Next Generation, the
- 1:15mysterious Benedict society and that's rific film.
- 1:18The Breadwinner on The Muppets Mayhem she plays the
- 1:22social-media influencer Hannah, please welcome, Sarah Chaudhary
- 1:25to the podcast. Hi Sarah.
- 1:29Hey, thank you for being here. Thanks for having us, finally,
- 1:34we have an actress and YouTube Superstar who performs the
- 1:37budding record executive and Electric Mayhem.
- 1:39Band manager. Nora, please, welcome Lilly
- 1:42Singh, to the podcast. I'm only.
- 1:45How's it going? Thanks for having us.
- 1:47Wonderful, such a treat to get to talk to you both.
- 1:50And also I just have to tell you you've done such an incredible
- 1:54job on this show. I love both of your characters
- 1:57so much. It must be so difficult to find
- 2:00ways to be entertaining as humans.
- 2:03Amongst all the chaos of the Muppets.
- 2:05Is that, is that true? It must be a hundred, a hundred
- 2:08percent. You know, what was my dream?
- 2:10I was like, oh my God, I got this role for the first time in
- 2:12my life, I might be number one on the call sheet.
- 2:15And then I got humbled, real quick, when all of the Muppets
- 2:18were 126 on the call, she doesn't know.
- 2:19Yeah, this is about them. This is a Bubba.
- 2:21It's been a joy to just be alongside them because they're
- 2:26the stars of the show and we get to help make them shine.
- 2:28So it's really awesome. It's true.
- 2:31Can you each give us like just a real brief recap about how you
- 2:34learned about the Project's? What your auditions were like,
- 2:37how you got the role Sarah? We could start with you?
- 2:40Yeah, sure, I think yeah. I as with most projects, I
- 2:46received an email from my team, just letting you know, what the
- 2:51project was that they were interested in having me tape for
- 2:54it. I had gone through a couple
- 2:57rounds. Sounds of self tapes that I just
- 3:00kind of like made at home. I was actually shooting some one
- 3:05of them was made in Toronto and I actually watched my first
- 3:09audition the other day just for you.
- 3:24Saw your first one, you said. Yeah.
- 3:27I just wonder what. Maybe that was you know it'd be
- 3:29interesting to see the difference.
- 3:31If there was any adjustments you made or things you there were
- 3:34there were I remember getting like notes back and I remember
- 3:38freaking out because one of the emails like halfway through the
- 3:41audition process was like casting saying to my team, she's
- 3:45very right for this. And I was like, what is that
- 3:47mean? But you were my last, my last
- 3:53round of auditions was with or like the last screen test, I
- 3:56guess, was with Lily. A over zoom.
- 3:59And that's when I met all of you lovely humans.
- 4:02And yeah, was it the same scene that you ready to time and you
- 4:09remember what it was? It was.
- 4:11Yeah. It was the same two scenes.
- 4:14It was one of the scenes in this episode that we're about to talk
- 4:17about. And then the other scene was one
- 4:20of the scenes from episode 1. I think, right?
- 4:24If it's the scene in the den during the PowerPoint
- 4:27presentation Yeah, it's the PowerPoint that we cut.
- 4:30Yeah. You'll have to point out the,
- 4:32the scene in this episode is once we will, I will ya.
- 4:35Great. But the but we put the the
- 4:38chemistry was so clear when we saw them do it together and you
- 4:41could imagine. I mean it's hard to over Zoom,
- 4:44but you could just you could just tell, you know, felt right
- 4:48Lily. What was it like for you?
- 4:50Well yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat.
- 4:51I got an email and at this point in my life, I was very much so
- 4:55prioritizing fun. You know, I've done a lot of
- 4:57cool things. Things in my life.
- 4:59But I was like, I want to just make sure whatever projects I
- 5:01do. Next are fun, and full of joy.
- 5:04And so, when I got an email about the Muppets, I was like,
- 5:06the universe has answered my call because there's not many
- 5:09other things that are as joyous as the Muppet.
- 5:11So I auditioned as well. I was traveling, I did a few
- 5:15tapes and then I also had to do a chemistry read over Zoom with
- 5:18Bill and Jeff and everyone. And I remember calling my agent
- 5:21being like, are there going to be Muppets on the zoom right
- 5:24now? I'm gonna log on and there's
- 5:26Muppets on the zoom. Like I need to know.
- 5:28There were not, it was built, but it was still good, it was so
- 5:31good. And I will never forget, this
- 5:34was where my reminder to always be a good and kind human being
- 5:37because the moment I signed on to zoom Bill said, to me, you
- 5:41don't remember this. But we've met before and I went,
- 5:45oh, tell me how we've met before and he said, you shot with the
- 5:48Swedish Chef and you were kind enough to make my son, a video
- 5:53who was a fan, and my response was yes, I am that kindness
- 5:56person, that did that. I bet you remember that right
- 6:00now at the beginning of this audition.
- 6:01Sure. Yeah.
- 6:03It was for his birthday to. You said, happy birthday to him
- 6:06and how he he just couldn't believe it.
- 6:08He was like so taken and I never forgot that.
- 6:12And here we are baby. Yeah, I'm going to second that.
- 6:15I think the first impression I got when we logged on I did one
- 6:18scene on my own and then Lily came on or it was vice versa.
- 6:22I don't know. But the first thing that she
- 6:24said to me she's like, hey, and immediately Okay.
- 6:28So this is what we're going to do.
- 6:29She did care that like all the guys were like on the zoom.
- 6:33She was like I'm gonna tell you what I'm doing.
- 6:36Yeah. And she's like, let me tell you
- 6:37like all is good, like we're just gonna have fun.
- 6:41Just be present with me like whatever and I was just like, oh
- 6:44my God knows, it's really sweet. And also annoying of me because
- 6:50I'm a control freak obviously. But yeah.
- 6:53We're very Nora Nora know and and you know we were just taking
- 6:58With Lily right away, you know, because she had we knew we knew
- 7:02she had a very playful side, right?
- 7:03Because I was familiar with her social media side of her world
- 7:07and her talk show, but to see her play, something a little
- 7:12more, you know. Not dude, I want to say big but
- 7:16just, you know, just grounded real.
- 7:18True. You know, was just amazing
- 7:22because it seemed effortless, you know, she just didn't seem
- 7:26like she'd been doing anything other Other than that.
- 7:28So I was just, I just thought, wow, this is crazy.
- 7:32She's great. Yeah, but this is this is just a
- 7:38backpacking podcast. We're just going to complement
- 7:40each other for the next hour. Yeah, you are, you guys are
- 7:42unbelievable. Like, you are the most beautiful
- 7:45and lovely people. I've ever met.
- 7:47No, you are. You are no, you are no, you are.
- 7:52Do you remember what the first thing you filmed with the with
- 7:56the Muppets was for the show. For each of you, I do my first
- 8:01scene. I'm quite certain was after the
- 8:03band has their rager and I come in to be like, what are you
- 8:09doing? Why did you have that rager in
- 8:11the backyard? I want to be mad.
- 8:12The cops, don't be mad. I told you to get out of the
- 8:14shack. That was the first.
- 8:16It was the scene with all. All of the band members.
- 8:19I was a huge set up. I remember was a huge camera
- 8:22movement as well. We have this camera doing with a
- 8:24360 turn over and getting upset and cut.
- 8:29Yes, it was like a huge scene. I was thrust into a now she's
- 8:32like fronting. I was like, okay, we're going to
- 8:34pretend we're not breaking out. We're gonna do this team but I
- 8:36was dying inside for her. Yeah, like right in the middle
- 8:38of the chaos to, I'm sure that I'm sure that helped.
- 8:41Yeah, I think we cut that. Yeah.
- 8:44Mine was was simple. I can't remember whether it was
- 8:49a group seen first or whether it was just, I think it was a group
- 8:51seen first, where it was like all of us at once.
- 8:55It was the scene where like animal is chasing JJ and Taj has
- 9:01like the tea or something and like drops it.
- 9:04So I'm from episode 7. Yeah.
- 9:07Like we were We were shooting out of order because remember, I
- 9:09came in like two weeks later to you guys, I thought you did.
- 9:14The party scene at your house at that star is house first.
- 9:21That was I know that like pink outfit where I had my hair was
- 9:28in a bun. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 9:31Your by yeah. That's how I remembered.
- 9:34No. Okay.
- 9:35Okay. Then like later in the day, I
- 9:38had scenes alone and I was like, oh my God like alone.
- 9:42As in just me and zoo and just me and Floyd and it was me
- 9:47giving Zoo a haircut and doing the Floyd's makeup or something
- 9:54or a charges makeup to get in the chair.
- 9:58I think that was the next day. Day.
- 10:00Oh I see. Okay, it might have been a all
- 10:02of the same day, who knows? I can't remember.
- 10:04It was so many giving. Like you said, you guys had to
- 10:07jump around from show to show and see ya and, but I just
- 10:10remember it just being chaos and I and, and Dave in the scene
- 10:14where I was cutting his hair like Dave was like on a little
- 10:16like, rolly underneath me and I was like, whoa.
- 10:19Like this is so crazy. This is like the magic and The
- 10:22Madness of the science behind how these guys make this work.
- 10:25Like I had no warning go again. They were just like by the way
- 10:28like sets are built like 34 feet up, enjoy, have fun.
- 10:33Like I was just hired. No warning.
- 10:35I didn't know that there were like holes in the ground or
- 10:38yeah, you know, I had to like not fall in but yeah, it was it
- 10:43was pretty pretty awesome and Bill I remember you came up to
- 10:47Dave when we were shooting that scene where I'm cutting his
- 10:51hair. Yeah.
- 10:53And you whispered something in his ear oh really.
- 10:56You remember what it was? Because he whispered something
- 10:58in his ear I was like oh Like, do you have notes?
- 11:05Dead silent. Nothing for you, you're good.
- 11:09Yeah I'm looking for you and I am and all I remember like being
- 11:12able to hear was like That's all.
- 11:15I know. I don't remember what I said.
- 11:18I wish I wish I did. I have a terrible memory.
- 11:22I wish I did remember what it was, but I do recall.
- 11:25Now, the bit about, I had nothing to say.
- 11:29I thought you were just great. I just wanted Dave to mess with
- 11:31you a little bit I guess. Yeah, I was like something
- 11:33different. I was like this is a first date
- 11:35S. I think it was pretty cool.
- 11:43It's Joe. Can I just ask one quick
- 11:44question that we Taj. Of course, I'm just curious the
- 11:48idea of shooting out of order the way we did right shows
- 11:53scenes, did you guys? How did you feel about that
- 11:57process? Because in one way it's a big
- 12:00long movie, right? So you have all that information
- 12:03ahead of time. Does that feed your character or
- 12:08does it do both as if your character and then, but then is
- 12:10it difficult? Because now you've got to
- 12:12remember where you were in the that episode.
- 12:14Is it a A beneficial thing or there, what are the pros and
- 12:17cons to being an actor who has to kind of block shoot and you
- 12:21know approach seems like that. I mean for me personally I think
- 12:26there's pros and cons. I mean, I've never had an
- 12:29experience where I shot something from in order
- 12:31beginning to end. I've never had that experience.
- 12:33It feels like that would be really cool because you'd be
- 12:37able to like know where your character is at all times and
- 12:39you wouldn't have to go back and figure it out.
- 12:41Having said that from like a human standpoint getting to be
- 12:44able to You know, people and like me getting to be able to
- 12:47nosara and no thoughts and then. Okay, now we have a scene where
- 12:50like we're at a party was really good.
- 12:52Friends were actually really good friends at that point so
- 12:54there's no lying so but I won't lie for me, I had to before we
- 12:58shot any scene. I did have to read everything
- 13:00before and everything. After to be like, I had notes on
- 13:02my script that was like, Nora right now is still really
- 13:04insecure because X Y Zed just happened before this.
- 13:07This has not happened yet. So like you do have to put
- 13:09yourself in that head space which is a little challenging
- 13:11but like that's part of the fun. You say X Y Zed?
- 13:15Yes, I'm Canadian Navy XYZ. I thought you were talking about
- 13:20the music producer who appears in the show.
- 13:23It's exactly crazy how so many people from around the world
- 13:26say, said it's almost like it's the correct way to say it.
- 13:30Well, I think I think we've just had some shade thrown in our
- 13:33Direction As Americans, how about Sarah, but so I'm just
- 13:38going to sorry if she had her kind of feeling toward that
- 13:42right before the, I think it. Like the summer before.
- 13:47I thought Muppets, I shot a show like we shot three seasons,
- 13:53season 3, 4 and 5 of a show that I've been doing for a little
- 13:56while all at once. Hmm, and so after that, I
- 14:01serious, I was like, okay, I'm ready for war, like, I'm ready
- 14:05for anything. But, like, at that point, we
- 14:09were jumping from season five to season 3 to season Midway
- 14:14through. In for in a day.
- 14:16Wow and so yeah that's big it was kind of nuts but it was a
- 14:22really amazing practice for me as an actor to kind of jump
- 14:27between and be able to kind of just fine-tune skill in that
- 14:35way. Just to be able to jump back and
- 14:37forth and to be able to Pivot, you know, at any point during
- 14:42the day, into a different Rent a different stage of a character's
- 14:47life. And so it wasn't, it was a
- 14:51challenge, of course, but it wasn't something like out of the
- 14:53ordinary for me. So we were breathing when you're
- 14:58working with wonderful people around you that are there to
- 15:02remind you like what your character had just been through
- 15:04or what she was thinking about. In that moment, I think that's
- 15:09that's I think when shooting with the Muppets, the greatest
- 15:12challenge is not block shooting. Greatest challenges.
- 15:17I just need one of you to be able to grab the phone.
- 15:21That's in my hand. That's greatest challenge.
- 15:24It's animal. Can you just take this prop for
- 15:26me? Please, this is not be a
- 15:28six-hour set up where you need. Yeah, yeah, Muppets are hard to
- 15:34work with and I hope, I hope well.
- 15:38I mean their Delight, but they're difficult, but let's
- 15:41talk about this episode where the Muppets get to do things
- 15:44that maybe Be maybe there were some more 6, our setups.
- 15:47We start our cold open, we're back in the Mayhem van.
- 15:50We got a couple of Easter eggs, right off the bat.
- 15:53We see a billboard for JJ's music app, J.
- 15:56Finiti and the background, I made that I had a feeling you
- 15:59did and then they pass a pizza twins restaurant.
- 16:03Of course, the pizza twins from great Muppet.
- 16:06Caper did a sorrow or lily? Did you know what?
- 16:09The pizza Twins were, before I mentioned it.
- 16:10Just now things are news to me, honestly, both of these things.
- 16:14Just very quickly, we had to remove stuff that you couldn't
- 16:16have like a billboard for like free V or something like that,
- 16:20and so they were going to remove it.
- 16:21Well, if you're going to remove it, can we replace it and so
- 16:24that for me was an opportunity, well, let's make it something
- 16:27that fits. Oh yeah, for have J, finity JJ's
- 16:30company. That was great.
- 16:31And then the last shot was you very quick, but it's like, it's
- 16:33a great Muppet. Caper reference.
- 16:35Yeah. Jeff, basically made references
- 16:37specifically for me, this is for me to pause and be like, I see
- 16:40you, I get it. You're a fan to thank you.
- 16:44So the Mayhem is singing a medley of public domain songs,
- 16:47including she'll be coming round, the mountain and jingle
- 16:50bells and Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
- 16:51Ave Maria, which got a huge laugh out of me and they start
- 16:55debating, what they should sing next.
- 16:57Maybe Beatles, Bowie, Jimi, Hendrix and naturally, you know,
- 17:02you're allowed to sing, whatever song you want for free in your
- 17:05own van, like Stairway to Heaven and you all kind of do this deep
- 17:11stare directly into the barrel of a camera.
- 17:15Which is hysterical. This must have.
- 17:16Come, this whole sequence. Must have come from like your
- 17:19own frustration. In what music you can and can't
- 17:22use. Is that is that accurate?
- 17:24Was that him right? Kind of.
- 17:25Yeah it's just right to some degree and we did have part of
- 17:28our budget was for music, We definitely knew that, but then
- 17:30we asked were obviously playing off the fact that, you know,
- 17:33some things you cannot use at all and car cost more than our
- 17:37entire series to use. So a little commentary like
- 17:41Stairway to Heaven, we couldn't even do the first.
- 17:43No, no. Note.
- 17:44Yeah, whoa. We had to cut out before they
- 17:47start they own the note. Can you own a note?
- 17:52All right, I mean, good for you, Led Zeppelin?
- 17:55Yeah, I don't know. Note picking up from last week's
- 17:58episode. We had a cliffhanger moved fell
- 18:01through the floor and he found a secret recording studio
- 18:05underneath the shack, and what's down there besides the recording
- 18:08studio. It's Cheech and Chong.
- 18:11The real teaching song what a delight to see those two again.
- 18:13Sorry. Excited.
- 18:14Are you to see Cheech and Chong? Er, sorry new them.
- 18:18She's has all the records. No, I actually did.
- 18:20Like, my parents would like, no. Like we do.
- 18:23These, my mom like Mike because I started the show and I was 17.
- 18:30So I still had, like, my parents with me on set for a little
- 18:32while and, or two of the nicest people.
- 18:36I have my god. Well, they're so amazing.
- 18:40I'm big fans as well. I think I'll keep him.
- 18:43But yeah, I remember, we should have to set that day and my mom
- 18:48saw Cheech and Chong on one of the trailers that she was, like,
- 18:52And my mom doesn't really like my mom is.
- 18:55So, you know, my mom, she liked actually doesn't care.
- 18:58Like it's very hard to impress this woman, and so like she was
- 19:03like, it's kind of cool that was it.
- 19:06And I was like that's how I know that you said kind of ultimate
- 19:13compliment like, pretty good ultimate compliment.
- 19:18Yeah. Or just like the head nod and
- 19:20you're just like, ahh, they recognized They were big gift
- 19:23for us. We were excited.
- 19:25Oh my gosh. Oh no.
- 19:26It was just the idea that maybe we could because I don't I
- 19:29didn't think they did that many. At least recently, things to
- 19:33know I did some research into it.
- 19:35They've done a lot of like, animated things, like things
- 19:39were they don't actually to be presence or interviews together
- 19:42or whatever. I know they had talked about
- 19:44doing a new Cheech and Chong movie.
- 19:46I do Mom 2008 or so, so they're obviously working together but
- 19:50it's rare to see them on screen. Seen in care whether I want and
- 19:53then like they're sort of, they're wearing costumes that
- 19:56are reminiscent of their old school Vibe.
- 19:58Yeah, it was great. I thought we were sort of making
- 20:01history. It felt like I was just I, I
- 20:03kind of freaked out because I we knew that we had got got them to
- 20:09come in, they're coming. And so I kind of tried to tailor
- 20:13our script to their kind of cadence, what?
- 20:17I remember it as a kid the man's and you know how many men's they
- 20:20say after certain things, and I went and spoke to Tommy Chong
- 20:24and asked him how he felt and he goes.
- 20:25Well yeah. This feels like us, man.
- 20:29That's a good comment. Yeah.
- 20:30Oh yeah, that's great. So really good.
- 20:33Yeah. Were you there in the hair and
- 20:36makeup trailer Lily when they gave out little gifts?
- 20:39No, I was not you guys get gifts.
- 20:42I ain't gonna get what you get. I know it kind of gives you
- 20:45those are. Yeah, I get it for context.
- 20:50I was 17 and did not receive it then.
- 20:54Still, that's a great story. I have a business that's yeah,
- 20:58that's something you're going to tell a lot of people get to say
- 21:00that. Yeah, I'll tell you, Adam has
- 21:02never. Let me forget that, you know,
- 21:04because he loves to write people into a shows just so he could
- 21:07meet them to have them sign his toys and stuff like that.
- 21:10And so, he wasn't there that morning and I hurried over with
- 21:13a record to have Cheech and Chong sign.
- 21:16And and I came back and I got my record son, he's like yeah, did
- 21:18you get my in my toy car signed? No, I did.
- 21:23I did not. He's like uh-huh and he has not.
- 21:27Let me forget that. Oh, Shi Jin, Chun.
- 21:29Toy cars sound was such a good Adam impersonation, but yeah,
- 21:33that was really got this out. He makes it was really, really,
- 21:36I think it could cause a Great Divide in our friendship.
- 21:40I'm so sorry when mooc falls through the floor and you see
- 21:44him downstairs. There's a light that's coming
- 21:46through the window and you see there's dust and smoke and
- 21:50little particles of things. Smokes and stuff.
- 21:53Jeff's Jeff's attention to detail.
- 21:54There wasn't any of that there? And he was like, you know what,
- 21:59we got to feel that it can we have some of that and it was
- 22:02like a few couple rounds of going back with notes but it
- 22:05just you don't you don't you see it but you know you don't
- 22:10realize they'll all the details and how much detail Jeff thinks
- 22:13about when it comes to things like that, it's really cool.
- 22:16If you go back and look at the beautiful things about working
- 22:18on the show, as I very quickly, learned how much Everyone Cared
- 22:22about all the tiny details and I really like as a creative, I
- 22:26super appreciated that because it's definitely not like, I'm
- 22:30gonna be real with you day. One at the end of day one, I was
- 22:33like, oh, we're like 17 days behind.
- 22:35Like I said, we were so behind and they went was because they
- 22:38were like, no, we're not sacrificing the details and I so
- 22:41appreciated that, that would read takes the smallest things.
- 22:45I think, one day, I went up to Lily, and I was just like, how's
- 22:48everything going? And you're just like, I have a
- 22:50question. When are we going to Should all
- 22:52the stuff. We were not able to shoot over
- 22:54the past like four days and again, Adam and I were writing
- 22:57and writing out of a hole and I'm like, what, what isn't?
- 23:00And you're like. So how's this going to work?
- 23:02How are we going to shoot all this?
- 23:03I had no idea that I was terrified and I just never
- 23:06wanted to talk to Lily again. I know it was great, it was just
- 23:08like oh my God, the call sheet is literally a suggestion.
- 23:11It's just, they're suggesting things that may or may not
- 23:13happen and it's but it all got doesn't.
- 23:15It's all amazing. Absolute well because because
- 23:17there is a thing when we started production, it's always
- 23:19something. I say right away, especially for
- 23:21people. Who haven't had the opportunity
- 23:23of working with the Muppets. There's a learning curve that
- 23:25happens and you don't catch up for two weeks, right?
- 23:29The whole crew doesn't really become a machine, you know.
- 23:33This this thing that's just moving along it takes a couple
- 23:35weeks if you depending on the amount that amount of time that
- 23:38you have to shoot your thing, whatever you're doing.
- 23:41But you know, if it's a week that you have, it takes a couple
- 23:43days for everybody to get up to speed.
- 23:45And once that happens, it all kicks in, and we kind of catch
- 23:49up, but it's that first thing that everybody.
- 23:51Which is how is this ever going to get done?
- 23:54You know, this is impossible but we get there.
- 23:57Yeah. And that attention to detail is
- 23:59blatant on screen like we've. We can all see it for sure.
- 24:02So it's much appreciated. So down in the basement here
- 24:07they find a tv/vcr combo. The turn it on.
- 24:12We see the Mayhem singing Rock and Robin from The Muppet Show.
- 24:14It's from the Jean-Pierre rampal episode in case anyone's
- 24:17curious. And so great to hear Richard
- 24:19hunts voice on this show, it's been A while, since we've heard
- 24:22him in a muppet performance. Yeah, inject, the original
- 24:26Janis, yeah, yeah. He was down exactly the band
- 24:29starts singing, along everyone singing, Rockin Robin, and they
- 24:31are interrupted by Penny and JJ. I liked this little moment where
- 24:37Norris has BRB and dr. Teeth goes, oh, bring your own
- 24:41root beer, like I had to rewind to be like device.
- 24:45We just made it up. I don't know.
- 24:46It was just stupid. I just so funny.
- 24:48It was stupid but I got it. Liked it.
- 24:51Oh, Cheech and Chong. Also as Zoot for a dime for the
- 24:54pay phone and Zoo holds out his hand and the dime levitates and
- 24:58his it's not commented on, we don't ever come back to anything
- 25:01like that. We're just gonna let it sit
- 25:03there. Probably the only two humans in
- 25:07the show that c Zoot surreal bubble.
- 25:11That somehow UND into that Vibe? Yeah, that they're on that level
- 25:16with Zoo. It's only really the only people
- 25:18otherwise it's just xud in the audience that acknowledge they
- 25:21may have given When each other gifts what's happening?
- 25:23Yeah, that's right. They could have gotten SARS gift
- 25:25the Zoot. He's not going to take it so
- 25:28maybe I'll hold on. I mean maybe that time at one
- 25:31point was in a bag. Think about that.
- 25:33Dime bag and Chong. Thanks Sammy says, thanks Dave.
- 25:37That's a reference to achieve something.
- 25:39Yeah, Dave's not home, man. It's also Dave goals by the way,
- 25:43it's got a double thing. You know, that's true.
- 25:46I definitely thought that was just them talking to Dave.
- 25:49I know some people. I figured some people Oops.
- 25:53So so Dave goals the whole time was the guy who was not home and
- 25:58while gold on the joke, one of their old bits, one of their old
- 26:01comedy bits. Yeah.
- 26:02That's what it was written for. And then you don't realize until
- 26:05you're doing it, the Dave's the guy who's actually performing
- 26:08Zoo. Oh, that's so good.
- 26:11Norton JJ, you're talking Animal Pops his head through the hole
- 26:15in the floor and says JJ bad. It was that hole and I mean
- 26:19there's holes in the floor, all over the place.
- 26:20So I assume it's a real A whole you didn't just Matt tooth shots
- 26:23together. Is that accurate?
- 26:25Yeah. Because we're on a raised deck,
- 26:26right? So the decking is 4 feet off of
- 26:28the ground. So it's really just a hole
- 26:30that's in one of the decks and Eric is underneath.
- 26:34I also want to point out because I was, you know, there's a lot
- 26:36of moments of the show where I'm proud of what we made.
- 26:38But in this moment, I'm particularly proud of myself
- 26:40because I perfectly throw that rug over that hole with such
- 26:44precision and egg where I was like, oh, I did not think I
- 26:47could do that. But you guys remember how proud
- 26:49I was of myself for doing that perfect ass off.
- 26:51Yeah, absolutely. And athlete.
- 26:53Basically any of it, any of those things you did.
- 26:56I did notice. It almost looked like CG the way
- 26:59that like it's a perfect little dip in that hole.
- 27:02Notice that Rose was almost played by the rug from Aladdin
- 27:05but because that rubs in a bar. So do you want to talk a little
- 27:11bit about working with Anders Holm?
- 27:13Because you share a lot of scenes together, unders is just
- 27:18a joy to work with. He is, you know, it's funny.
- 27:21He's one of those people like doesn't really turn off in the
- 27:23best in the best way. Like he's always cracking jokes.
- 27:27He's such a joy to work with. He's actually so sweet and kind
- 27:31and so that's why I thought you did.
- 27:32Such a good job with j.j. because he's like really Taps
- 27:35into him, a version of himself, that's just so aggravating and
- 27:38like a Charming way, but I really had a blast work with and
- 27:42we've actually been become a good friends, but yeah, there's
- 27:46definitely something he Taps into for j.j.
- 27:48That is like I'm attracted to this guy and he's Charming but
- 27:53also like a hate him so much. So you look balanced perfectly
- 27:57in my opinion. He's so funny so clever to like
- 28:01his width is just so dry. Time's, right?
- 28:04It's so great, so great. So nor tells the band she wants
- 28:09something new and fresh for their sounds dr.
- 28:12Teeth suggests switching instruments.
- 28:14We see the band trying a new outfit.
- 28:15It's there polka outfits from Muppets.
- 28:19Take Manhattan, I assume it's the same ones.
- 28:21They look identical to that shot from up segment and yep.
- 28:25While they're there. Yeah, they found them, but they
- 28:27had to write, you know, pick some up and I think they made it
- 28:30one for lips. Alright, yeah, of course.
- 28:35But Nora wants a sound that skews a little bit younger than
- 28:38their classic rock feel. So maybe hot new music collab
- 28:42and that's going to be kind of the theme throughout this
- 28:44episode, all these collaborations, nor a mooc have
- 28:47a conversation outside. He wants to help the Mayhem
- 28:52because he knows the sound so well and to prove that he's got
- 28:56producing skills. He opens up his trailer and we
- 28:59see that the bed folds down the talk about the trailer.
- 29:03Yeah, I wish. I had was honest about the
- 29:05trailer. Tell me all about this trailer.
- 29:07Yeah it's seen it with Moog revealing.
- 29:10His trailer is probably I'm going to say this scene that was
- 29:13most reshot in the entire. I think we shot that scene three
- 29:18times. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- 29:20I want to write. I thought it was three total.
- 29:22Yeah moocs trailer looked super different.
- 29:25The first time we show the interior, the interior interior
- 29:29really different. It wasn't as modern it was much
- 29:31more like diy things falling from I'm places it was so cool
- 29:36but then it got redone to be more modern but we shot the
- 29:40scene, three different times. So I feel like I still have that
- 29:44scene memorize and I will go to my grave with that scene because
- 29:47it is so memory. Can I say?
- 29:49We did shoot three times but I don't think we shot the whole
- 29:52scene three times. We shot the whole scene twice
- 29:54and then we had to do a pickup or something right to do it
- 29:58again on a green screen. What was it?
- 30:02That was, it wasn't it? Like we had to go pick up for
- 30:05some time? We shot it.
- 30:06We had the location again, but because we did not have that
- 30:09Shack location. So I think you do a green screen
- 30:12but I remember me Anthology when we're at the premiere were like,
- 30:15okay, it's either going to look like how we shot it, or they're
- 30:18going to have CGI to and it's going to be a spaceship because
- 30:21it could be anything at this and you're like oh it's empty.
- 30:25Okay, that's cool. Yeah especially because Nora
- 30:29Nora goes like wow, that's impressive and it would be so
- 30:32impressive, it's like okay, I produce albums in And avoid
- 30:36there's nothing here. I would be impressed by that
- 30:38totally II was all say that I was I prefer the original one to
- 30:43be honest that was my tape might take.
- 30:46I just thought it was in my mind.
- 30:48What I imagined was moocs trailer more posters more you
- 30:53know like a guy been living in it for ya.
- 30:56Yeah. And this new one which I get to.
- 30:58I mean I understand the reason behind him why Adam liked it but
- 31:01it felt a little more like you know the the West Some like hip
- 31:06Hotel you know that in the back of your trailer but you know
- 31:12it's pretty cool. I mean the idea was to have
- 31:15these drop down things that open up and and he was kind of
- 31:18mechanically inclined and he had a cool space but the decor was
- 31:22the difference really is that adds to the, you know, the team
- 31:26that makes all of that. Really my God because there were
- 31:28a few takes where I was like, Wow, and I'm reacting to the
- 31:31Shelf going and like nothing working.
- 31:34I was like what Wow. That's they got it to work and
- 31:38it was awesome. But it's a lot of pieces and
- 31:41bits and bobs for sure. Yeah, that's that's more of a
- 31:43compliment to your performance that you're able to look at an
- 31:46interview with actually compliment myself.
- 31:49I don't know. But it was such a difficult
- 31:53thing to execute and I feel like shout outs to just the crew that
- 31:56makes all of this. And whether the hot tub that
- 31:58teeth is under the truck that mooc is just it's really
- 32:01impressive. Yeah.
- 32:02Absolutely. The next scene is Nora in
- 32:05Genesis bedroom. She has moved in and it's a cool
- 32:10room like the stained glass on the walls and the floors
- 32:12completely covered in pillows. Really beautiful reason is
- 32:19because it's it was one of the scenes I'm going to say for me
- 32:24the number one scene where I could not see any human while
- 32:28shooting that scene and most other scenes, whether you know
- 32:31was a hot tub with teeth. You could see people in green
- 32:33suits or blue suits. Are you see people under The
- 32:35deck but there was no deck that was visible to me, and there was
- 32:39no human at all visible to be. So this one's really would like
- 32:42Janice is absolutely moving by herself and a real human being.
- 32:47Right now, it really was like super trip or for me to shoot
- 32:51and super hard to walk because of all the pillows.
- 32:53It was just, I was just like in a different world while shooting
- 32:57that scene. And then the complete opposite
- 32:59is it was probably David Robbins worst scene because he could not
- 33:03he couldn't, he didn't have any other state.
- 33:05Except to be through a hole and stuck under there.
- 33:09But what an easy way to hide a puppeteer is to have a room
- 33:13that's completely filled with pillows.
- 33:14All right, well, that we must go through the floor, you know?
- 33:17Because all the clothes had to be supported.
- 33:19So he still was really. That was just a hole for him
- 33:22that his arm went through and everything was dressed around it
- 33:26and then Romans being operated by Eric as right.
- 33:29And actually, you know, for people who don't know to, you
- 33:33know, we have these kind of four foot by four By four foot square
- 33:36decking that we use to make these rooms so that we can take
- 33:39them in and out to create holes and spaces for them Muppet
- 33:43performers. And sometimes we use a two foot
- 33:46by four foot piece, so it's half and we lay the pillows down and
- 33:50so at least we have a little more air to breathe and see
- 33:52things and have somebody assist us.
- 33:54So it's not just always a whole. I was exaggerating a bit but
- 33:57still yet. Probably Dave is not not his
- 34:01favorite but I'm glad it worked for you though.
- 34:03That's good. Genesis very excited to have a
- 34:06new roomie. They're going to say a blade
- 34:08braid, each other's hair. Use astral projection to to
- 34:10dream share, be just like sisters, which maybe wasn't the
- 34:15best thing to say because there's still this contention
- 34:17between Nora and Hannah, and it's a shame, because Hannah is
- 34:21the only one that Nora knows who has all these celebrity
- 34:24connections. And as she says, that lips Pops,
- 34:27in says a bunch of nonsense because he booked a whole bunch
- 34:31of famous musicians because he knows everyone how convenient.
- 34:35That he happens to be here. Totally, everyone always asks
- 34:38like, you know, so many interviews people asked, if you
- 34:41could be friends with any Muppet, no offense, anyone else
- 34:43going live. Happy lives has the connections.
- 34:45Got him up as this character throughout the series, where he
- 34:47knows, everyone's phone call away.
- 34:49He knows everyone. So this, this scene makes total
- 34:52sense and not even you want. Everybody's like, he knows the
- 34:55best, you know, plumber. Right.
- 34:58Right. He just knows, everybody.
- 34:59Everybody loves lips. Do you only want to be friends
- 35:01with lips so that he can hook you up with other celebrities?
- 35:04You just want to use As a friend, if I do, think the key
- 35:08to Friendship Is Not always completely understanding your
- 35:11friends because sometimes they say annoying things.
- 35:12So if you like less arguments would happen.
- 35:15If there was a slight they say communication is the key to
- 35:17success but lips is proved otherwise oh that's a good
- 35:21point. So now we see Hannah for the
- 35:23first time in this episode, she's got Janice on her
- 35:26Instagram live for a makeup tutorial.
- 35:30Like the first thing you do is you say, we're gonna start with
- 35:32the light Shadow to open up the eye a little bit, which is Uncle
- 35:35because Janice and her eyes and Janice is using everything as a
- 35:41metaphor for sisterhood trying to convince Hannah to open up to
- 35:44her sister and you know how it goes.
- 35:47Janice has this life mission to bring people together.
- 35:50Like, remember the time the Rolling Stones broke up, they
- 35:53didn't because Janice got them together.
- 35:55This stands never broke up, they never broke up.
- 35:58Thanks, Janice one of our writers is also named Hannah and
- 36:02it became a very difficult thing to navigate in the writers room.
- 36:05We prefer to Hannah the character and Hannah, the, you
- 36:08know, I had trouble with the name at first to is Hannah's.
- 36:12My cousin's name? Yeah.
- 36:14Like really like. Yeah.
- 36:15And my cousins are like my best friends like they're like my
- 36:17siblings. Yeah.
- 36:18It's so we all grew up around each other.
- 36:20It wasn't like this cousins that live across the country that you
- 36:23saw like, every once in a while, and then I are like besties.
- 36:27And so it was weird at first, I was like, this is not right?
- 36:30It's confusing. It was a writer.
- 36:32Hannah was was banana. We called her Hannah Banana So
- 36:35she was, it was Ben, that's so well, because I have an uncle
- 36:38named dr. Teeth.
- 36:39So that's so amazing I have lilies in my yard.
- 36:47So Sarah, did you did you get any advice from Lily?
- 36:51I'm like how to be a an influencer because obviously
- 36:55Lily has such a huge following and this is like your whole
- 36:59deal. No actually no, no, we didn't
- 37:03have any conversation. I mean Lily is, you know,
- 37:08herself and iconic as she is. But like I think also as yeah,
- 37:13when I was shooting the show 17 18 year Old, I mean, social
- 37:19media and whatnot. Just comes very naturally,
- 37:22whether or not you're super active on social media or not.
- 37:24I think growing up, you know, as a part of my generation.
- 37:28It's just something that is part of the Zeitgeist is just like
- 37:31something you live and breathe, whether or not you're on.
- 37:34Social media are not your friends are going to be talking
- 37:36about things or you're just going to pick things up along
- 37:39the way. And and I was definitely one of
- 37:43those little girls that like would take The family iPad and
- 37:47like make little Vlogs by myself.
- 37:49And I still do like you can ask my friends.
- 37:51Like I'm the friend that like takes videos of every water,
- 37:54like will Vlog the day and be like, hey guys, if we're going
- 37:56to the beach today, this is my friend but over like you know,
- 37:59so it wasn't totally unfamiliar like doing makeup tutorials with
- 38:07Janice by my side felt very similar to like when I would set
- 38:11up my like, iPad with my cousin's, when I was younger and
- 38:15like do their makeup, It look atrocious but like, you know, it
- 38:18was just for the fun of it. So yeah, it's no advice from
- 38:23Libby actually. But and to be fair, I was
- 38:25asleep. He doesn't need.
- 38:25I think sorrow like shines and this episode and I love this
- 38:30scene of her doing Janice's makeup, and she absolutely did
- 38:33not need my advice because she crashed it.
- 38:35And probably did way better than I could have ever gotten her to
- 38:38clean up to. Also, I just kind of say, like
- 38:41this are is very different from this character.
- 38:44She's sorry is a very ground. Gadreel like person.
- 38:47She's taller weed and enjoy a little taller, but but the
- 38:52adjustment that she made to play this character, it's not an easy
- 38:55thing to do because she still real and she's playing a very
- 38:57real person, but there's an air about Hannah that you feel when
- 39:01she's in a room where she's talking or she's you know, it's
- 39:04it's it's like this it's what a good actor does, you know?
- 39:08And it's amazing in this episode.
- 39:12It's really great. Okay, we can stop now.
- 39:16True, it's true people. You know, people sometimes I
- 39:19dint think when someone's playing a character, they don't,
- 39:22they kind of put them together, and they think that's the person
- 39:25though. That's, that's how they must be.
- 39:27You know, when you're good at what you do, that's when people
- 39:31connect you like that. And I just, I just think it's
- 39:33important to know that Lily and and Sarah both, you know, just
- 39:38amazing. I mean, it's just great.
- 39:40I was less so ongoing thing, but you, you touch will ties.
- 39:44We replaced Yeah, you know, a lot of his face and it was okay.
- 39:49It's a bit is getting so old guys.
- 39:53Yeah, the CG is great of times. It really is.
- 39:56It helped a lot with the expression and emoting, you
- 39:59know. So thank God for CG So back in
- 40:04the studio, we're starting to get a medley of rock and Robin
- 40:07versions of Rockin Robin with different celebrities.
- 40:10The first is Kesha lips was the one who told her to drop the
- 40:14dollar sign out of her name. That's true though.
- 40:17That part was true but it's also great that she's just willing to
- 40:20kind of poke fun at the fact that she'd a dollar sign in her
- 40:22name for most of her career and she doesn't Deep dive into the
- 40:27lyrics and discovers that The Rock and Robin story is really
- 40:29tragic, you know, like he rocks He talks all day long.
- 40:33Is that his choice? Or is that societies?
- 40:35That's a good question. I love the so good.
- 40:39It was really funny. No Lily you're on the other side
- 40:43of the glass for these scenes. Are you actually there because
- 40:46you don't share? No.
- 40:48My one beef with this with this series is that I did not get to
- 40:51actually be there for because of the way the schedule worked out
- 40:54for for Kesha for designer designer and was the last one.
- 41:00Again, it was digging Marley, Marley Mouse.
- 41:12How did it work out? We were there.
- 41:17But as fate would have it, I was at a party and I ran into Kesha
- 41:21and I had a conversation starter because I was like, hey, I know
- 41:25not with the Muppets and she was just Overjoyed at the experience
- 41:30and that is like the magic of the show.
- 41:32When you meet People were Superstars that have the exact
- 41:35same reaction to the Muppets. And so we being able to hear her
- 41:38be like it was the coolest thing I've ever done and I was like,
- 41:40wow. Like you get this is what I get
- 41:42to do every day so it's cool. That's so cool.
- 41:44I love hearing that. Yeah, as you mentioned Ziggy
- 41:47Marley is the next one. He is a rare celebrity who has
- 41:51the Henson hat-trick. He worked with the Muppets.
- 41:53He worked on with Sesame Street and he worked with the fraggles
- 41:55in Fraggle Rock. There's not many people who can
- 41:58say that and of course he's saying the song Love.
- 42:02Power during the credits for Muppet Treasure Island.
- 42:05Let's all sing it together right now.
- 42:07No, no, no power. I do.
- 42:11Well done. Bill you were in the movie
- 42:13though. So and he can't, he can't do the
- 42:17song. His heart is broken because
- 42:20Janice, you know, she's a heartbreaker.
- 42:24Yeah. The next one is my favorite.
- 42:26It's dead mouse. He does an electronic version of
- 42:29rock and Robin and he's wearing his big mouse head.
- 42:32All the Mayhem members have their own mouse heads, which is
- 42:34such a great visual. They're all bumping around
- 42:37falling down, which is I was amazed that we were allowed to
- 42:40use him, I thought For sure. There were some lawsuit that had
- 42:43happened in the past where Disney did not like him.
- 42:46Using the mouse head that being low, right?
- 42:51I think those are the some of the coolest costumes of the
- 42:53series to those, those Deadmau5 heads on them up.
- 42:56Yeah. Those Muppet heads are
- 42:57beautiful. Yeah, I remember pausing it and
- 43:00just like appreciating every single one and realizing that
- 43:03like he could then looked exactly like their character but
- 43:06I don't know. I just I thought it was the
- 43:08coolest thing. I was like, maybe this is a
- 43:09Halloween costume. Like yeah and so much work, put
- 43:13into those for like 5 Seconds of content which again attention to
- 43:17detail. I love it.
- 43:18These youth National automatically 45 seconds that
- 43:21spend 18 hours, making it 55 months writing, it that is the
- 43:26ability of a grudge a little bit.
- 43:28I know I'm gonna say is this Lily compliment?
- 43:31Chanting in like, oh no, I love it.
- 43:33I'm telling you, I actually especially coming from late
- 43:37night where it was very like, just get it done.
- 43:38It doesn't matter. Stood.
- 43:40I so appreciated walking into a space where was like, no it
- 43:43needs to be perfect because we have a vision, I loved it.
- 43:46Um, one little thing as I man, I come from an editing background,
- 43:51and I do trailers mostly, and it's all a kind of style stuff
- 43:54and we've, we had a bunch of terrific editors who come from
- 43:58the sitcom world. But whenever there was an
- 44:00opportunity to throw Some style or do stuff to music.
- 44:03That's what I like leaned, no forward.
- 44:05I'm like, can we just try this to do?
- 44:08And so the edit to Deadmau5 that sort of the flutter, cut-rate,
- 44:13that was my thing where I was like, can we just try this?
- 44:15It just is a great transition. The catches you off guard too,
- 44:21which I like watching it when we were binging.
- 44:24When it came out in May 10th, I'm like, what's up?
- 44:26Oh, right. Yeah, that was my suggestion.
- 44:27That's the last celebrity here is designer.
- 44:30He's doing humble core rap version of Rockin Robin with
- 44:33lips. Only, this is another one that
- 44:36Adam from the beginning, we have to do this.
- 44:39This is my hill to die on Iraq. It has to be right.
- 44:44If I think we went through many iterations of this to make this
- 44:48happen. I think it's just such a funny
- 44:51idea. When you have you know these
- 44:52three characters who barely talk or just or do Mumble or you know
- 44:57other single words at a time and it Looks terrific to.
- 45:02And my favorite detail about this is, you know, animals who
- 45:05are singing backup and Zoot is saying rap song, which changed
- 45:10actually it was a different thing, but that came later
- 45:13before it was a great ad. Yeah, it was just, I think it
- 45:18just sounds. Yeah.
- 45:22Rap song ball funnier was a downright rap song.
- 45:25Yeah, the band is listening to the new tracks, they're digging
- 45:29their digging, this designer mix and mooc notices that the band
- 45:36is not into it and of course they seem enthusiastic.
- 45:40Nora asks, you know, what do you guys think?
- 45:43They all cheer a little bit and Floyd has his, we did it moment.
- 45:47Which is such a like, a meme worthy thing.
- 45:50I'm surprised that we don't have, we don't see that.
- 45:52That gif are all over the Internet.
- 45:53We did it. It's all.
- 45:54It's all the crew and everyone said from then on whatever we
- 45:58would finish a scene or a moment and it was we did it.
- 46:01We did it. Yeah, exactly.
- 46:04We did it. And then the other thing the
- 46:05crew always said like for example, when they're like, hey
- 46:07guys are probably going to wrap at night.
- 46:09I'd be like Yeah, this is a great joke.
- 46:18Also, you know, when move points out, you know, that the band is
- 46:22always happy and, you know, he brings up the fork and they have
- 46:25the same reaction, you know, we did it.
- 46:28It's such a better version of the joke that was in all the
- 46:30trailers for the 2015, Muppets sitcom where scooters, saying,
- 46:34like like the band is always happy legally now and all right,
- 46:38you know, obviously that's a thinly veiled.
- 46:40Drug reference and this is just so much more like, no, they're
- 46:42just happy. And we can find a lot of humor
- 46:45in the fact that they're just enthusiastic about everything.
- 46:48So I think that's a good update. I don't.
- 46:49That was intentional or not, but that's at least how I took it.
- 46:52Now we're heading reference to the old one.
- 46:54Yeah, great Janice is doing yoga with Hannah in this next scene.
- 47:00She's still trying to mediate between the sisters and Janice
- 47:04tries hit healing sound bath. She gets a Gong, a therapeutic
- 47:08trust fall, she falls backwards. Has a light lobotomy, she has a
- 47:12power drill and then acre Amo, Karma cleanse, and hey, it's
- 47:17Kurama from queer, eye. And I'm such a fan of the new
- 47:21query. I got I did a little like, oh
- 47:24the first time I saw this was he was he is nice in real life as
- 47:30he seems. Yeah, it isn't.
- 47:31I have so many stories from the scene one.
- 47:36Being the fact that this is one of the Teens.
- 47:41Oh. Okay, it changed a lot.
- 47:46I don't know if I'm even allowed to say.
- 47:48All right. Right.
- 47:48It was right. Yeah, maybe not.
- 47:51It was written for a different actor.
- 47:52It was very different, but very much the same in many ways.
- 47:56It was still yoga. It was still, you know, me and
- 47:59Janice but it's important to know when I was filming this as
- 48:05an audition like you guys had changed the name Janus.
- 48:09So like I didn't even try Right? When two together?
- 48:11It was like, it was like Jane or something.
- 48:13I don't even remember like Jessica.
- 48:16Like, I don't know. Just some other like, female
- 48:18coded. Yeah.
- 48:19It was because we didn't want it to go out to all of the
- 48:22different places. People know.
- 48:23It's a Muppets thing. Yeah, exactly.
- 48:25So I just like had no, I just didn't put two and two together,
- 48:29so I just like treated this. I didn't even think in my head
- 48:33that, oh, this is like a scene where this character is talking
- 48:36to a muppet, like, in my head, like, I was just talking to a
- 48:38human being. And I think that served me, I be
- 48:41Yes for sure doing. But yeah, coronavirus is
- 48:44amazing, such a beautiful person, another story from this
- 48:48scene karamu helped me decide whether or not I was going to go
- 48:55to college that year. What?
- 48:57Yeah, so I had yeah I had just come back from visiting sauce,
- 49:09which is like my Schools like incoming freshmen like visit
- 49:15weekend and I just come back and I was like, okay, I know I'm
- 49:20going to the school but I don't know if I'm going to take a gap
- 49:23year or not. And for some reason, the
- 49:24decision was really stressing me out.
- 49:26It was just like, it felt like this life-altering decision,
- 49:29whether or not I should take a gap year or not.
- 49:32And I remember Bill, we were talking about it because your
- 49:37son was on a gap. Yeah.
- 49:39Yeah. Jackson taking a gap.
- 49:40Right. Yeah, Jackson Zanna on the Gap
- 49:42here. And we were talking about
- 49:44school, and whatever, and then and then, yeah, I had mentioned
- 49:51it to Kurama. I was like, yeah.
- 49:53Like this is what's going on, man?
- 49:54Like, that's the life update. Like I can't tell you much else.
- 49:56Like I'm shooting the show and I'm deciding about school and he
- 49:59just gave me this really beautiful advice about, you
- 50:02know. He was like, I understand like
- 50:03having immigrant parents and like, just like the pressure and
- 50:07whatever. But like, really, just like
- 50:08follow your heart to what makes sense like.
- 50:10Listen to the signs around you in the universe.
- 50:12All these are the it was like a whole it was a little more and
- 50:15the fact that you're doing yoga and like, I don't know, it was a
- 50:18whole is whole thing. You had your own Kurama episode,
- 50:21his new show, right? But anyway yeah a lot came out
- 50:27of that scene and I decided to go to school right after.
- 50:32That's amazing. I love your frustration at the
- 50:35end of the scene. Yeah that was fun.
- 50:37Yeah, corallo very, very yeah. Paramo What do you say yet?
- 50:41Don't you put your out of me, beautiful, but beautiful brown
- 50:47eyes, is that it healing magic, healing Magic on me, Karim.
- 50:53Oh, it's so good. But then he shifts his healing
- 50:57magic to Janice and I love. Janice has also her this line
- 51:01reading of her just telling him to zip it and saying, is let's
- 51:03say in his Lane and she's like, okay, love you.
- 51:06Bye. And I love his reaction.
- 51:09That's that was like a Real kind of drop open eyes wide and we
- 51:13had a couple versions but I kept wanting to push for that because
- 51:16I just thought it was. So there's just nothing.
- 51:19He didn't say anything. He just went wide like what I
- 51:22carefully like this happen. Incredible.
- 51:25So Nora goes back to the shack and confronts move because in
- 51:29the previous scene, she played the new song for Penny and it
- 51:34was not the one that they had agreed on.
- 51:35It's a new mix of rock and Robin.
- 51:39And so they have this big argument.
- 51:40About, who knows what's best for the band.
- 51:43And it's great because Zoot is there to kind of cut the
- 51:45tension, just like between them commenting on it as if it's like
- 51:49a dramatic TV show and he mentions in the in the script I
- 51:54have to assume it was a scripted thing.
- 51:56This is a narrative of very heavy-duty proportions which we
- 52:00all recognize as a line from The Muppet Movie.
- 52:02I believe that's an outtake from the Kesha scene, right?
- 52:08Doesn't he well, well, no, it was added.
- 52:10It was It was the line. Wasn't there for the wasn't
- 52:13there? I know.
- 52:14I'm in wrapped somewhere and then I think a dime thought it
- 52:17would be fun because we're trying to connect Zoot a little
- 52:20more to their conversation and we used a shot of Zoot saying
- 52:26something else. Yeah.
- 52:27That put these words in it, right?
- 52:29Yeah. It was a great.
- 52:31Great mention great Easter egg. Yeah, if you haven't seen the
- 52:34Muppet movie, you should go watch it.
- 52:35It's a good movie. I like Zoots line.
- 52:37What is what Jeff Woods lying when he says Whoo, drama.
- 52:42What is like? Lots of drama?
- 52:44Oh yeah. I like this show.
- 52:45Lots of drama, the drama. Yeah, it turns out that Luke's
- 52:49demo with that. He's been trying to get Nora to
- 52:52listen to for the past. Four episodes is made up of
- 52:54remixes of all the mayhem's concerts so he does know his
- 52:59stuff and he works hard on making the sound good Nora sees
- 53:04a stack of VHS tapes. And on those tapes we see my
- 53:08pizza mate hits the Macy's, Thanksgiving.
- 53:10Being Day Parade, Muppets at Walt Disney World, which by the
- 53:12way, is not on Disney plus yet. But can we just say they butt
- 53:16heads beautifully here? These two?
- 53:18Because it is the first time they actually have a
- 53:21confrontation like this. And it's pretty heavy, you know?
- 53:25And I just thought, I just love the way that that scene plays
- 53:29right there because it could have been very mean but it's
- 53:32just frustration and trying to, you know, push back, push back.
- 53:38You know, it's just a great little The perfect balance where
- 53:42you still are rooting for both of the characters, and you don't
- 53:46seem just like in at least in my opinion, don't leave the scene
- 53:48just like, and you're like, oh, they're two people that like
- 53:51have their baggage and, or like meeting each other in this
- 53:53argument. And so really wanting them to
- 53:57reconnect, as opposed to being like, oh, screw this one person.
- 54:00I want this one person to win so I agree.
- 54:02I really like the way that landed.
- 54:03Yeah, it was great. Well, it helps that they're both
- 54:07arguing because they want what's best for the band.
- 54:10And for this Album, they're not. Are they think?
- 54:12Because what they think is best for the BET.
- 54:14Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
- 54:16They don't want, they're not arguing because they hate each
- 54:19other. They don't know, not even
- 54:19arguing because they love each other, you know, it's that, that
- 54:22will come later Nora puts a tape in the VCR.
- 54:25And, of course, the clock reads for 20, which is a reference to
- 54:29Pulp Fiction. I think we shot at that time.
- 54:31I think that's actually just, just so happen to be 14.
- 54:34I think that one. Yeah, I think I do remember that
- 54:37was a late night. Two in the morning or something.
- 54:41Yeah we hear the Mayhem singing a song in the background during
- 54:46the next few scenes they're singing God only knows the Beach
- 54:48Boys song which is great and also interesting choice that I
- 54:53very much appreciate that you didn't try to do a music video
- 54:56for every song you know we can just have the Mayhem singing a
- 55:00song and it's in the background and we can appreciate it for
- 55:04what it is which is just a great cover of a great song.
- 55:07Yeah and it comes out of the demo it's what's on the demo
- 55:09that she plays. Right.
- 55:10Yeah. That's what that's what carries
- 55:12us through, right? Exactly.
- 55:16So Floyd comes in tells Nora. He's so lucky to have been able
- 55:20to make music with all those friends, for all these years,
- 55:22which is inspiring hurts of want to reconnect with her sister.
- 55:26Meanwhile, Janice is going back to Hannah's house and she has a
- 55:30photo to show her Hannah assumes.
- 55:33It'll be a picture of her Nora and will convince her that they
- 55:35should reconcile. Would have been a very easy
- 55:37story beat but it's not. This is maybe the biggest Gasp,
- 55:41I got in this entire series that it's a picture of Janice and her
- 55:46twin sister she has an identical twin.
- 55:49I can't. I can't believe it.
- 55:51Yeah. I couldn't believe it either.
- 55:54It was amazing. Yeah.
- 55:57I mean that story to unfold. We'll see.
- 56:02Yeah, we came up with that in the writers room.
- 56:05I think when we were just doing sort of background for these
- 56:08characters that we just talked about being real, Ali cool
- 56:11thing. I guess we won't go into the
- 56:12details of what we've kind of figured out.
- 56:15But yeah, we have a cool story and cool ideas for what it could
- 56:19be and we weren't sure as we were coming up with it, if it
- 56:23was gonna, you know, come up again in the first season or not
- 56:26and think we liked, we will be settled on where it doesn't, you
- 56:30know, but it just lays its so nicely to this moment until what
- 56:36Nora and Han are going through images.
- 56:38It's so sweet. So see ya Super sweet.
- 56:41I mean I assume that later on when they're in the desert and
- 56:44they're all they've eaten. The bad mushrooms and Janice's
- 56:47in a room full of Janice's. That's a bit of a reference to,
- 56:50you know, maybe maybe one of those is not Janice, maybe those
- 56:53Roses were that was least how I read that intentionally.
- 56:57Yeah, we didn't think of it that necessarily that way.
- 57:00But yeah Janice also insinuates that she doesn't know where her
- 57:04sister is, which is also leading to a lot of potential story.
- 57:07So I'm really excited for you know, to see what you guys.
- 57:10Guys have in mind. Yeah, that was a really, really
- 57:13beautiful scene. I think I want to Pat David on
- 57:16the back for that one. I mean like I think that was one
- 57:19of the first. I might have been one of the
- 57:21first scenes where I was alone there.
- 57:23Had been other really grounded scenes with Muppets.
- 57:27Like for example, actually, we're I don't know if it's just
- 57:31me but alone with a muppet. Like I think that was one of the
- 57:35very first, like really grounded scenes.
- 57:37I had where, where there was Room to get more emotional.
- 57:42And that was when I really saw like how, how much Humanity The
- 57:50Muppets have despite not necessarily being human and
- 57:53their universality and their ability to speak so much to The
- 57:57Human Experience and Janice just has so much heart in this scene.
- 58:02So it was so easy to just play off of David's performance
- 58:07performance because it was so stunning.
- 58:09And, and And so beautiful and all my family now makes fun of
- 58:13me for this scene. I hope you know.
- 58:14Why? Is because they're annoying.
- 58:17They're like, they can't just like let it be a good scene.
- 58:21My cousin came over to my house like, two days ago.
- 58:25And she was like, oh, did you think of your sister when we
- 58:28were shooting? Obviously like, it's my real
- 58:32sister. So they've seen us like argue,
- 58:34and they've seen us bigger. But like also very close.
- 58:37So it was like, yeah, I did kind of think of my sister like,
- 58:40Sorry, I love her like her, like me down.
- 58:43Anyway, it's a whole, it's a whole day.
- 58:45Now in my house. Anytime episode is like playing
- 58:48or somebody's re watching the show.
- 58:50They're like, as if sorry. Wow.
- 58:55Your answer to them. Should always just be.
- 58:57It's acting. I'm an actor.
- 59:00I don't have to think of real thing.
- 59:20Yes. Yeah amazing.
- 59:23So Janice convinces her. That the distance that between
- 59:26sisters may feel really good right now, but it won't feel
- 59:29good if they drift too far apart.
- 59:32So Nora brings moves demo back to him admits, he was right, he
- 59:37really does have the perfect sound for Bridging the old and
- 59:40the new for Mayhem and she asked him to produce the album, which
- 59:43is very sweet. It's a sweet scene, it's really
- 59:46has. And I feel like I just love the
- 59:49way it sets up this relationship moving forward because you know
- 59:51you see Nora like she has so much guard up and I think
- 59:55there's only a few times in the series but there was a really
- 59:58special moment where she'll actually like get let that down
- 1:00:00and be like you're right I'm letting someone and I think this
- 1:00:03is the first real time. You see her do that with a
- 1:00:07someone one-on-one which was like yeah.
- 1:00:09Yeah. Sheshe.
- 1:00:10As the moment where, where she kind of comes clean about the
- 1:00:13lies in the previous thing, but this is the first time with a
- 1:00:16person that she's admitting, she's not really, you know,
- 1:00:19right and knows what she's doing, which is great.
- 1:00:22So trusting of someone else. I also shot out to a crew member
- 1:00:27by the name of banner. Who is the only reason the door
- 1:00:30of that trailer stayed open during that scene because part
- 1:00:33of that scene was open the hardest part of the show was
- 1:00:37opening that trailer door. That and Swinging it shoutouts
- 1:00:43Banner for your service. I was just gonna say the and and
- 1:00:47moves reaction when you leave is so great at that moment alone
- 1:00:52where he's just like, he can't believe it's gonna happen, you
- 1:00:55know? And the next shot is own or
- 1:00:57turning to camera to start and I just great, just confident,
- 1:01:02you're excited. Let's do this.
- 1:01:05Absolutely, you're making all the right choices.
- 1:01:06Yeah. Janice brings Hannah back to the
- 1:01:09shack and Hannah admits that she really does need her big sister
- 1:01:14and they, and here's what I love about the scene, it's a great.
- 1:01:17It's a great scene. I love that.
- 1:01:18Hannah comes in heart open and Nora is like what's wrong, what
- 1:01:24do you need? And like oh my God, like you're
- 1:01:26kind of gobsmacked by by your sister hugging.
- 1:01:28You but then Janice is looking on and again like we're talking
- 1:01:32about David's performance as Janice in this this episode.
- 1:01:36But there's something it's such a simple Little thing, just like
- 1:01:38the little, you know, head is cocked a little bit to the left
- 1:01:41and her heart's. Her hands are at Heart Center
- 1:01:44and it just, it just is a really heartwarming moment.
- 1:01:48Totally. And, you know, just took off
- 1:01:49once I was saying earlier. So I find a lot.
- 1:01:52I tap into a lot of my real life for Nora, but not in my
- 1:01:55experience. So my real sister is six years
- 1:01:58older than me and did raise me a lot, so she is actually Nora and
- 1:02:03then I and realized was the influencer and I was Hannah and
- 1:02:06so I I am tapping into things. My sister said to me how my
- 1:02:11sister and I have argued about things and so it's been a really
- 1:02:13interesting experience because I think I feel like shooting this
- 1:02:17scene like I think I went home and I was like, oh man, maybe I
- 1:02:19wasn't annoying little sister to my room, not me to universe is
- 1:02:24like we're going to give you this role so you see how
- 1:02:26annoying you've been, but it was just really special because I
- 1:02:29did get to tap in something real there.
- 1:02:31I remember you brought that up when we were meeting with you,
- 1:02:34and I think we all sort of, even with though we were on zoom,
- 1:02:36we're like wait a second here. There are so many parallels
- 1:02:39here. Yeah, she is nor, I mean she's
- 1:02:42not noise. She's taking that she's Hanna
- 1:02:44but she's nor I mean I'm so familiar with that experience
- 1:02:47and I think you know my little sister I killed it in this
- 1:02:51scene, she's just stunning performance, you know, good that
- 1:02:55hog is like even I mean I was there but I still watch and I'm
- 1:02:59like yeah gets me every time and then she turns and says thank
- 1:03:04you that little whisper yes Olga said before But I love watching
- 1:03:09your relationship between the two of you just grow and develop
- 1:03:13over the course of this season is one of the relationships, I
- 1:03:15had the most amount of tweaks, you know, a lot of how we met
- 1:03:19the Nora and how we met Hannah and how we learn about the
- 1:03:21relationship. Those scenes are shot and
- 1:03:23tweaked and them. So I feel like it's been like
- 1:03:26refined and fine-tuned to this place, that's really special and
- 1:03:30cool. So, shut up, Jeff.
- 1:03:31Brought up a point. We were looking like once a
- 1:03:35scene, the scene where you're at Shot later.
- 1:03:39We're in the right front of. So when we are in the record
- 1:03:42store, yeah fact that you guys have got to know each other over
- 1:03:46time before. We shot that really fed that and
- 1:03:49you really feel like you guys are sisters, they're having to
- 1:03:52reshoot that was one of the greatest blessings that we got.
- 1:03:56Sometimes you're just like, oh, we screwed up and we did and
- 1:03:58that was our writing. But then just the blessing of it
- 1:04:00was that by that point and shooting you were sisters, you
- 1:04:04weren't close. You knew each other, you liked
- 1:04:06each other you know? Just shows on that industry.
- 1:04:09So, because before they didn't like each other at all, no, you
- 1:04:12did not like each other at all. They did not like each other.
- 1:04:14In the beginning, like, is a strong word.
- 1:04:20Yeah. That was a really, yeah.
- 1:04:21That was a really beautiful scene, but can I really do you
- 1:04:24remember her our marks for that hug?
- 1:04:29We're like, the hot looks really beautiful on camera, but our
- 1:04:33marks were weird. Remember, we had to hug like,
- 1:04:35kind of like do not like Like it was it was just odd and so it
- 1:04:40was kind of uncomfortable because you get to like make
- 1:04:43sure I think it was like I kept getting like blocked but yeah,
- 1:04:46blocking delay and if I hold it like her so for you to turn to
- 1:04:50Genesis like it looks good on camera but in person you were
- 1:04:53like cranking cranking my neck. It was yeah, it was a lot but
- 1:05:03also like, I'm going to say walking on pillows like walking
- 1:05:06in sand, he does very Honk to catch your balance and like,
- 1:05:09find your mark and like, all that type of stuff.
- 1:05:11So, I always thought it was a little challenging to shoot in
- 1:05:13Genesis room. Your pillow Nest.
- 1:05:15Yeah, the pillow, rest bill, I remember this see results really
- 1:05:19special. Because at this point, by the
- 1:05:21time we were filming, this seemed like we had become better
- 1:05:25friends. You and my dad had become pretty
- 1:05:26close Ally. Yeah.
- 1:05:30And you came specifically you can't I remember you were like
- 1:05:33maybe you were riding or something but it was shooting on
- 1:05:36it. We were shooting on the other
- 1:05:37stage. Which the same time come back
- 1:05:40and forth these things. But then you came, you came back
- 1:05:43just for the scene. I remember you like telling tell
- 1:05:46it was at Matt. You're up to this one.
- 1:05:49Yeah I think I think so. I think so.
- 1:05:51Yeah you going to Matt don't wear her out.
- 1:05:56I remember say that be like it's fine.
- 1:05:57I'm fine. Like I'm good because I was
- 1:06:01watching you every take was just you know, there was just Great
- 1:06:06stuff in everyone. And I just thought, I don't
- 1:06:08know. I just it was, to be honest, the
- 1:06:10note was not only just to look after you but like just Matt,
- 1:06:15Matt is a great director and he just really wants to pull all
- 1:06:19that stuff, you know? And, and so, you know, it was
- 1:06:22just, I felt like we got it. I felt like several times.
- 1:06:26It was great stuff and he was like, no, no, let's do it.
- 1:06:29Just one little, you know, now you're so sweet.
- 1:06:33I always remember that. That you guys haven't seen any
- 1:06:37of the show until the night of the premiere, right?
- 1:06:39Yeah. And now I assume you've seen the
- 1:06:42show. You watch the show?
- 1:06:44Yeah. Your favorite episodes is what
- 1:06:46did I mean? I'm sure it was all like just a
- 1:06:48shock to see it all. I'm telling you, this is one of
- 1:06:50my favorite episode. This, this episode 7 is a but
- 1:06:54honestly, this is one of my favorite episodes just because
- 1:06:56of like the sister storyline. Yes.
- 1:07:00Yeah. This was the one that I felt
- 1:07:01when we were watching. I was like, this is our show,
- 1:07:03you know, we got here. This feels like our show the
- 1:07:06pacing the humor, the balance, so nice.
- 1:07:09And then they both just to wrap up the episode.
- 1:07:14Our final scene Nora has ditched the idea of collaborations with
- 1:07:17other artists and tells the band.
- 1:07:19They could just record new stuff on their own.
- 1:07:21So the band is gonna go record a new song and they got nothing.
- 1:07:25There is no new stuff. Oh, Cliff Hanger, Disney plus is
- 1:07:30going to love this. I love the one, two, three and a
- 1:07:34half and I Love the execution of bills for, I laugh out loud
- 1:07:38every time for. Oh good.
- 1:07:44I also have to assume this is kind of what it was like, you
- 1:07:46know, for the people who were writing the music Jeff.
- 1:07:48Maybe you felt this way of just like, yeah.
- 1:07:51So we'll just write new Mayhem songs and and go and something
- 1:07:57will come out, right? I mean that's oh my god of hell,
- 1:07:59that's the first stage of songwriting, I think.
- 1:08:02Yeah, yeah. There should be a whole pie.
- 1:08:05Podcast about doing the music for our show.
- 1:08:07It's tough. It's a tall order, you know you
- 1:08:09want to do the Mayhem proud, you want to serve our story
- 1:08:12correctly, you want to make a Rockin album and it's a lot it
- 1:08:17is a lot. I mean you know go to go back
- 1:08:19just very quickly just even to have God Only Knows works, it's
- 1:08:22a huge turning point in our episode story wise nor has to
- 1:08:26listen to something in that moment that convinces her that
- 1:08:30Moog is the right person to do this.
- 1:08:32We wrote you know that it was going to be God only knows and
- 1:08:34we just put Linda Perry. Alright produced a version of
- 1:08:38the song that's going to convince her and also audiences
- 1:08:40audience is need to hear it. And what is that?
- 1:08:43What is that thing? You don't want to change the
- 1:08:46Mayhem but it's got to be something.
- 1:08:48You know, that feels new. That feels different.
- 1:08:50That doesn't sound exactly like God only knows and it's famous
- 1:08:53open. It was such a tall order all
- 1:08:55around and this was certainly one of the biggest challenges.
- 1:08:59I think we pulled it off the moment we did for Everything
- 1:09:02song. For ya, if my opinion, Counts
- 1:09:05for anything. I think you pulled it off real.
- 1:09:06Well I love speaking to people like you because you taught me
- 1:09:10things about the series like hearing you talking about oh
- 1:09:13those are things. I didn't cash it.
- 1:09:14Also thank you of course I mean look this is this is what it is
- 1:09:18to be to be am a head. Basically we're like we are
- 1:09:21going to have a different view pit of viewpoints of this stuff
- 1:09:25because we're looking for those Easter eggs.
- 1:09:26We're comparing it to the old stuff which we have, you know,
- 1:09:29encyclopedic Lee filed away. But yeah we have all that stuff
- 1:09:33like filed away in our brains. So of course Like, you know, of
- 1:09:36dr. Teeth is going to say something.
- 1:09:37I'm thinking about when dr. Teeth said something similar in
- 1:09:401979 when Bill was not a part of the troop.
- 1:09:43So, you know, I'm putting those ridiculous things together that
- 1:09:47nobody cares about. But me, and the people listening
- 1:09:49to this podcast. So sorry you go through that.
- 1:09:52So sorry it's a nightmare. So Sarah and Lily as we're
- 1:09:59wrapping up. Do you have any other memories
- 1:10:01from the show or stories that you want to share or just
- 1:10:03general? Ins to the series as a whole
- 1:10:07will be on this episode. Oh, I mean, there's so much.
- 1:10:10I mean, there's so much. I know that was.
- 1:10:11That was a poll question. Big question.
- 1:10:14Yeah, quick, you got a minute and a half.
- 1:10:16I'll just say, I think it's, it's an honor and a privilege to
- 1:10:21be surrounded by such incredible performers, and cast mates, and
- 1:10:25crew, members, and writers, and producers.
- 1:10:28And everybody, I think this show after coming home From from
- 1:10:36press tour and releasing the show.
- 1:10:37And it just kind of like being out in the world now and it
- 1:10:40being a real thing because for some reason to me, like until my
- 1:10:44projects are like officially out into the world, they don't exist
- 1:10:49yet and I try to like block it out of my memory.
- 1:10:51I'm like, no this hasn't happened yet but now that it's
- 1:10:53kind of like out and people are having reactions to it.
- 1:10:57I had the time to sit back and kind of reflect on the whole
- 1:11:01journey and kind of process it all now, like a year.
- 1:11:05Later and I just I do, I think when you're in it and you're
- 1:11:10doing a dream project like this, you sometimes don't realize what
- 1:11:15you're doing in the moment and you kind of try to pinch
- 1:11:18yourself then but you don't, it doesn't really click until much
- 1:11:23later and I think over the past little while, it's all really
- 1:11:28started processing for me. And I've been able to sit back
- 1:11:31and realize just how freaking magnificent These people are and
- 1:11:39I don't know, I think I'll be thanking my lucky stars every
- 1:11:43every single day for, for crossing paths, with all these
- 1:11:45wonderful human beings and and Muppets just to add on to that
- 1:11:49would say, I do remember a day when me Sarah and thought, I
- 1:11:52don't think honors was on set this day where, you know, our
- 1:11:56names were announced as part of being passed and we were like
- 1:12:00having a breakdown were like, oh my goodness.
- 1:12:02We are the annoying humans that are going To be part of the
- 1:12:06Muppets and people just want to see The Muppets and we were
- 1:12:08little stressed about, you know, we're very aware that the
- 1:12:10Muppets are so beloved and people want to see The Muppets
- 1:12:13and we wanted to do justice, and make sure people knew that we
- 1:12:16were there to like make them shine and like be there to
- 1:12:19complement, not to take anything away from them.
- 1:12:20So we really stressed before I came out, honestly, about just
- 1:12:23like how people would react but I think your kudos to the
- 1:12:26writers and the creators and producers because I think that
- 1:12:28balance is so perfect and I hope people when they watch the show
- 1:12:31die-hard Muppet fans can feel that that we're not, I'm just
- 1:12:35We're not there to take the spotlight, it is about the
- 1:12:38Beloved Muppets and we're there to just like bring bring
- 1:12:43ourselves to their world, you know?
- 1:12:44And so but I do remember us having I remember because I had
- 1:12:47two scoops of ice cream that day.
- 1:12:48I was like, oh my God, I gotta drink that buffets world, but
- 1:12:53it's been such a joy in such an honor and the reception has been
- 1:12:55great. And it's just, I guess to all
- 1:12:58the May heads. Thanks for thanks for letting us
- 1:13:00be part of your world because it's been super cool.
- 1:13:03Thank you for bringing so much joy and Humanity to this project
- 1:13:08and your talents. You did a wonderful job.
- 1:13:11The series is great and thank you for being here on this
- 1:13:13podcast. What a joy?
- 1:13:15It spends his to chat with you both for the past hour.
- 1:13:18Thank you. And thank you, Bill and Jeff
- 1:13:21will hopefully see you again next week.
- 1:13:23Back here on this podcast. Thanks everyone for listening
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