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Wendy Osefo says she was arrested illegally! #RHOP · The Comment Section

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, I am mister Marcus White, and I am David,
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and we're your host for the comment section.
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Speaker 2: Well you had that long pause.
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Speaker 1: Wonder it again.
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Speaker 3: Every time I say does dovy you be like hmm,
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then you start going. It's like you're processing whether or
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not if if my intro is good.
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Speaker 1: You do it. That's what you being self conscious. I'm
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actually thinking about other things. I'm not even thinking about it.
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I hate to break it to you. You're not in
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my mind. So I hate to break it to you. Friend,
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but all your guests, like you said before, you go,
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it's it's it's bad. It's really really it's it's killing
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me over here. But no, I was not processing nothing
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about you. So I hate to break it to you
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that I'm not a hater that you think. I am
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so sorry about that.
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Speaker 2: Friend. I miss the old hated this mark.
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Speaker 1: It's all right. I'm sure that you can take my
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place for me of the old Marcus. Yeah, do you
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want to do this again or are we good? It was?
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Do you let's do it again? And I'm David, I'm
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a hater. Finishing, mister White.
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Speaker 2: And this is a comments sectiones.
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Speaker 1: That is the opening line, and that is the opening line,
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you would say, that's how we are and that's how
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we're starting the show. Cue the theme song. You know what,
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Wendy O. I don't know what you're doing, but you know,
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I don't think this is the right move. So DV
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do you know that Wendy got arrested with her husband
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about two weeks ago for charge is They're being accused
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of insurance fraud, conspiracy fraud, and making false statements to
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the police. Now, according to US Weekly, Wendy's lawyer is
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saying that her and her husband were illegally arrested and
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that they want all admission statements and confessions to be
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not allowed as evidence because they both were wrongfully obtained.
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Her lawyer is also demanding that all charges to be
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dismissed due to alleged Are you texting while I'm talking?
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I can hear that. What are you doing? What are
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you doing?
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Speaker 2: Does that pick up all of that? I?
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Speaker 1: What are you fucking doing? God?
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Speaker 2: I'm not texting. Shit, I just grabbed the piece of paper.
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Speaker 1: Why are you playing with the piece of paper while
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we're recording our show. You're distracting me and the listeners. Geez,
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you been into like a live recording of a TV
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show and they say silence. All cell phones do not
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talk on whisper while they're do I need to get
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that discrestion to you too?
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Speaker 2: Did you really hear all that?
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Speaker 3: I think he's got good hearing because I swear I
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was like quiet like a mouse.
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Speaker 2: How as quiet as a mouse with some house slippers on.
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Speaker 1: That's no, You're just You're just a rat.
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Speaker 2: Look here you go, here you go. You know that out.
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Speaker 1: Look like, let me get back. So Wendy's lawyer is
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demanding that all charges is to be dismissed due to
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alleged effects in the charging document, and they also are
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demanding at all evidence to be suppressed because of an
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all unlawful search and seizure. And they also want all
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wire and verbal communications to be also suppressed because of
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the unlawful interception. And they also Wendy is also demanding
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that the prosecutors list all the witnesses that they plan
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on calling and any polygraph results of witnesses question. And
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then Wendy and Eddie want the prosecutors to give them
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any confidential informants, any anybody who is helping the case
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out during the doing the investigation. And on also all
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copies of the police report. I know that you're supposed
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to defend yourself and you you want to make yourself
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look innocent, but I think this is the wrong way
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to go because no one thinks that you're innocent, Wendy.
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No one thinks that you're wrongfully arrested. Right Like if
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do you remember when we were talking about last week,
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how they they have the camera footages that we need,
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Eddie have cameras, cameras in their south, inside their house
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and outside their house, and there was no one breaking
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in their home. And then they also have the receipts
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of items Wendy return to the stores that she said
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that they were stolen, and so she put it on
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the insurance case, you know. So there's no coming out
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of this, Wendy and Eddie, you know, and I think
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that you're making this worse for yourself when when you
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fight stuff like that, go ahead, no, no, no, you
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got to go go finish it. I was gonna say
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when when Karen Huger last season, who went to jail
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for her do ui? You know they said plead guilty
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or not plea guilty. Karen pled not guilty, which made
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her go to jail for a year now. If she
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would have pled guilty, she would have just gotten been
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in house arrest. So when you plead not guilty and
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go to trial, it can make things worse for you
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and Wendy and Eddie. You may just want to plead guilty.
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You may not want to fight with this because I
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don't think there's any coming out of this.
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of two coins of this. They have
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to fight.
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Speaker 3: They have to fight for their just from a public standpoint,
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you kind of have to fight. It's just the way
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how the lawyer is explained in this situation. It just
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shows they are more guilty. If you listen to some
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of the key words by saying that everything, all of
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the omissions need to be removed because you got it
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the wrong way, Well guess what, they still admitted it.
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All the evidence that they got. They want to, oh,
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put it down because you got it the wrong way.
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Speaker 2: We still got it.
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Speaker 3: If when they walk inside of somebody else and somebody
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have a bad kind of porn, guess no matter how
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they got it, you still had it.
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Speaker 2: You get it. So I see why they have to
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But they still looking even.
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Speaker 3: More guilty, And I think the way how they are
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trying to fight the case, they look even more guiltier.
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Speaker 2: And to your point, where you go to trial, you
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are more likely that if you're guilty, then you like.
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Speaker 1: You get a harder sanctions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's called.
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Speaker 1: Like what is it called when you are pretty much saying, hey,
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I want to I want to plead for a lesser
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trial or something like that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it's called, but that's when.
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Speaker 1: You're plea guilty so you can get like a lesser
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a consequence or whatever. So that's what it is. When
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you plea guilty, you get charged with lesser consequences, and
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then when you plead not guilty, they go, you know,
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all bets are off at that point. So yeah, you cop,
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you cop a plea. That's what I think it's called, right, probably.
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Speaker 2: Is we got to look that up because I know
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we both are saying a role.
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Speaker 1: Clearly, we're both not lawyers. We're both not lawyers are
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into We're not into I mean, I watch one order.
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I don't know if that counts. But and the ideation dumb, dumb, dumb,
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dumb to wait for something like that, it's dumb, dumb,
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like Wendy and Eddie. Dumb dumb, that's what it is.
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Dumb dumb. They're going to You guys are going to jail.
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I I I think you guys should just plead guilty
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to get a lesson sentence. I don't think that if
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you if you fight this, you you're going to jail.
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Either way it goes, you are going to jail. The
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both you are going to jail. It just depends on
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how many years. So plea guilty so you don't have
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to go to jail that long. And because I don't,
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I just feel like they have kids. You want to
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make sure that you are not away from your kids
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that long. So just just own up to it, you guys,
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and move on. Move on.
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Speaker 3: One of the hardest things in that situation is they
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can probably still make money. So maybe it's maybe they
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need to plead to a lesser charge so that their
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life is not one hundred percent impacted. Because if they
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get charged with all of those charges, the full degree
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like they can serve came up up in twenty years
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something like that.
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Speaker 1: It was one to twenty four years. They could one
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to twenty four years to twenty four years.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're black you're black in America, You really
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think that you're going to get a slap on the
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damn risk you will not, so they even make it worse.
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Speaker 2: CIEs white collar climb, You're gone. What's that thing? You say?
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You're going to jail?
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Speaker 1: Period? For who?
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Speaker 2: It?
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Speaker 1: Really? So interested? I love it.
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Speaker 3: I mean I'm interested now, of course, like I'm committed
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now because of because of this whole fiasco. But I
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think it's just it's sad for the sake of that
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this And I said this last week too, This successful
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black woman so smart was not smart enough to not
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do something so dumb.
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Speaker 1: Happens too. I guess the best of them, right, I
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mean when you think you can get away with it,
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where a lot of rich, famous people think they can
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get away with crimes, and they have to just be
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humbled and remember that you're not above the law yourself.
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P Diddy, you know, doctor dre Ta take that, Take that,
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Take that. R Kelly, all right, Harvey Weinstein, You're not
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above the law. So you know. I he got out,
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so I guess he is above the law. So he
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was in jail. He also got out, so I guess
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he is above the law. And he's also trying to
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pardon Ditty as we speak right now, So Diddy will
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soon be above the law. So Wendy and Eddie, if
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you want to get out of this, you better ask
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your president for help because he's partying all the criminals
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as we speak.
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Speaker 2: Are these state charges or are they federal charges?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know what.
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I have no idea. I'm not a criminal, so I
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don't know what's the difference between either one of them.
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So I don't have no idea. All I know is
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that they're going to jail. Yes, Yes, Brandy Norwood, Now,
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Miss b Brandy, you are a legend. You are an icon,
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and you are a staple in the black community. And
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I don't want to say I'm disappointed in you, but
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I'm just shocked of what happened. So on. You know,
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her and Monica are on tour together called The Boy's Mind,
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named after their hit single. They're nineteen ninety nine single,
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The Boy's Mine, And this is the first time that
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the both artists have tour together. Fans have been calling
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for this for the past twenty five years, so this
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tour is actually big, and you know what it sounds
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really exciting because they got Kelly Rowland to open up
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for them and also money Long. So it's a good
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old concert and I'm going next month. This past Saturday,
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while and they were in Chicago, Brandy was performing her
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song Baby, and then she just walked off the stage
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out of the blue. And then there's a video of
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her walking near the sound system where the producers are,
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and she said something like, the sound is off, guys,
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and I'll be back. Take a look, take a listen
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to the video, and then we'll talk after. So she
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said in the video that there was something wrong with
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her sound. But then according to the people in the audience,
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she never came back on stage. The lights came on
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for thirty minutes, no one knew what was going on,
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and then after thirty minutes of waiting, only Monica came
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back out to finish the show, and then that was it.
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Her and Brandy never sang The Boy's Mind, which is
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what they did which they perform at the end of
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the concert. Brandy never came back out. Because how this
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concert is, they're singing one song, then the other one
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comes out to sing one song, then the other one
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sings one song. If that makes sense. So they're interchanging
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each other. Is that a we're interchanging? Are you following? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: No, I'm following. He just froze for a second.
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Speaker 1: I froze. Oh wow. Hopefully that's not, you know, distructing
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the audio. But so, audience fans were mad that that
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Brandy never came out and that they never got to
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see the two singers before the boy is mine. Brandy,
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you better not do that shit when I see you
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next month, you better not fucking do that shit, all right,
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because I would be pissed. But she's saying da vide
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that she was dehydrated and that she had to be
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taken to the hospital.
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Speaker 2: She said she felt like she was about to think too.
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So I have two coins of this.
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Speaker 3: Initially, initially, the first my first thought was, girl, who
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pissed you off.
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Speaker 2: To make you want to just leave? Like? Who really
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pissed you off? To make you want to leave?
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Speaker 3: Not to mention, people are paying their money, they automatically
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going to be mad as people don't care what you're
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dealing with. Don't care what you're mad. You need to
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finish the show. So that was my initial But after
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reading a little bit and seeing that she said she
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felt dehydrated and she felt as if she was going
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to faint. I kind of had to take a step
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back because, of course, like if you're paying your money,
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you may be frustrated in the moment, which I.
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Speaker 2: Understand of what people will feel. But the thing is
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you have to take your health seriously. It's a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Artists who have had issues on stage, and maybe she
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had that feeling like, oh my god, I'm feeling weird.
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Speaker 2: My health is feeling kind of way. I need to stop.
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Speaker 3: And there are those are people right now who are
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not alive. Is because they ignored their body, They ignored
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how they were feeling, and unfortunately some people did not
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necessarily make it. They ignored their their uh, their their
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their natural instinct of how they're feeling. So I'm going
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to give her a pass on this because if she's
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been on tour this time and she was feeling like, wait,
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I'm not feeling the best, she had to remove herself.
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Speaker 1: So that was the third show. The toy just started.
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That was that was number three.
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Speaker 2: That was something.
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Speaker 1: Her and Moonica have the dress code of wearing suits,
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so they're performing both women are performing in suits. Girl,
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take off all those suits, stuffering all these clothes. They're
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hot as hell, all right. You saw how she looked
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when she walked off the stage. She had a big
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leather jacket on over a suit jacket the girl over.
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They overdressed them with both of them. But that's the
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dress code that both women want to follow. But you
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can't be dancing all like that and then you know,
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expect not to be dehydrated. But at the same time,
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if you look at the video of how she walked
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off stage, she wasn't about to pass it out. I
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thought she had diarrhea. I still think she had diarrhea
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the way that she was singing, and then she turned around.
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She said, ooh, hers kidder reroko. So sheus walked off
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that stage just like anybody would walk away. She walked
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off really rant. In the middle of the song, she's
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a oh her so got here real quick. So I
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think that you know, in the Instagram post, we didn't
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say this part. She She addressed her her departure and
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an Instagram post the next day. It's lengthy. I'm only
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going to read the first part, but it says I
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sincerely apologize for the erupt end to last night performance
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in Chicago. After weeks of NonStop rehearsal, last night, I
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experienced dehydration and feelings of wanting to faint. Everyone involved
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agreed that prioritizing my well being was the most importance. Girl,
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just say you had diarrhea. I don't believe that you're
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about to faint because you were behind We walked off
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stage to go to the sound of a booth to
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fix whatever audio that you said, and then clearly you
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were annoyed that your audio was still not being fixed.
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And I think that you maybe had a bitch fit,
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or you had diarrhea, or maybe she did faint. I
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don't know. I don't know, Brandy, But don't do that
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shit to me when I go see you next month,
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because I'm going to be on your ass worse than
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the diarrhea was on your ass. You hear me, Brandy,
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don't pull that shit with me. After all the money
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and people are traveling to see you, people are paying
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for hotels, taken a full work, I'm doing all three.
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Don't pull that shit on me. Don't do it, Brandy.
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Speaker 2: Did she get her loveby? No?
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Speaker 1: Fans did not get their money back. No fans did
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not get the money back. Nope, No, I know a
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lot of fans have said, like online that they were following.
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There was a there was a video of fans in
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the lobby filing a report to I guess I don't
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know the venue that they're at, but I don't know
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what's to come up. And maybe maybe Brandy could possibly
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send free merchandises to everybody who was a tend who attended.
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I mean, that's a lot of money, but you give
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something to the fans something. It's a lot of people
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and it's just so all these are sold out. Well,
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you better think of something something to do, because.
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Speaker 2: Has she ever done this before? Do you? I don't
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have anything her. No.
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Speaker 1: She just kill somebody in a car accident before. That's
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the only thing I could think of. Like she never like,
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you know, like walked up. You remember that back in
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like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, when she killed someone in
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the car accident. Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 2: I just forgot all about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this's the only thing I think she's done that's
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similar to this. You know, she killed fans joy, she
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took a life of somebody snacking neck neck and neck.
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Speaker 2: Brandy, fans are gonna wear your ass out.
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Speaker 1: I love Brandy. Now we are a team. Now, welcome
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to the comments section with mister Marks White and Davide.
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Your name is on this show, so it's it's you
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are I and I as you. So don't you dare
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try to sucker me. We are alone.
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Speaker 2: That's what I say. You leave them alone.
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Speaker 1: Look, I got Monica fans that back me up. They goons.
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So come on, Brandy fans, come on, you ain't got
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nothing on us. Monica.
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Speaker 2: Monica fans gettle as hell. They always ready to fight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got so, I got the Zeus team
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behind me. Zeus is definitely gonna be taking care of me, Heather,
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the Zeus team, The Zeus team is behind me. They
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got my back. Heather gave from the Royal Housewives the
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Salt Lake City. Now, Davide, I know you just started
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watching Salt Lake City Housewives. I'm not sure if he's
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still watching. But Heather Gay was a former Mormon, and
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she had a book that talked about her experience in
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the Mormon religion. While Bravo is giving her a three
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part series titled Surviving Mormonism. Take a look at the trailer. Everyone,
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things I learned while we were filming This shocked me
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to my core.
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Speaker 3: The real secret lives are much darker, deeper, and more tragic.
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Speaker 1: This is still going on. This has to stop. I
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spent my life being some I wasn't. My earliest memories
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are of abuse.
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Speaker 2: Had they taken action, could it have saved me? I
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just feel overwhelmed and horrified.
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Speaker 1: Surviving Mormonism with Heather Gay. What's the premiere?
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Speaker 3: Tuesday, November eleventh after Salt Lake City and stream all
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episodes next day on Peacock.
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Speaker 1: Now, this trailer obviously reminded me of Leah Remani's show
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Scientology and the Aftermath. Do you remember that show that
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Lee Remedy had years ago on A and E.
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Speaker 2: Hell?
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Speaker 1: No, oh god, you're so fucking boring. Have you never
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seen that show before?
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Speaker 2: No? You know gangs? I don't watch all them shows.
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Speaker 1: So Lea Remedy was you know Lea Remedy, the actress.
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She's from King of Queens. You know her?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 3: But I also hear somebody yelling in your background talking
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about my microphone? You got a orgies taking place in
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your background. I heard somebody's hearing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh or something like that. There's nothing
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playing twister in your back room or something.
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Speaker 1: There's no one here. You're making up noises. No, you're
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going crazy.
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Speaker 2: Go back and watch this was wed at nineteen minutes
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or something. Go back and listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Watch them see well if I got someone on my bedroom.
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Please it's been six years, please play with me. All right,
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Back to the subject. So Lea Remedy was part of
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the Scientology religion. Now she had a bad experience where
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when she left the religion, they were stalking her. She
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was excommunicated. She if within the religion, if if you
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do something that they don't like, they will not kidnap you,
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but have you disappear for some time. So there's one
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person that she was close to had disappeared up until
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to this day, from the when she left the religion
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back in the early two thousands up until this day.
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This person is nowhere to be found. So she creded
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this documentary. And within this documentary she was interviewing people
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who was a part of their religion and they gave
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their experiences. And that's what Heather Gay is doing with
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this Surviving more More. I can't say it Mormonism TV
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show where they're going to talk about their bad experiences
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within the religion, And I don't like that, Davide, because
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you're you're pretty much doing a public execution of a
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religion just because of your bad experiences. Is pretty much
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like what homophobic people do to the LBGD. I can't
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say what the community I'm part of the queer community,
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like what hobic phoma. I can't talk today. Oh my god,
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homophobic people do to the queer community. Is this a
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public bashing that I do not agree with? Just because
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you had a bad experience doesn't mean give you a
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right to create a whole entire takedown of that religion.
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Am I doing too much? Or do you disagree?
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Speaker 3: Ooh, so I'm kind of in the middle of this,
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And it's funny. It's because I actually thought you were
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going to be on the other side where that you should.
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So I'm very very the first time, like, yeah, I'm shocked.
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Speaker 1: That they talk about it. Yeah, you know, in this way.
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Speaker 2: So I think that if you had an experience mm hmmm.
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Speaker 3: In which it traumatically impacts you and you want to
22:51
talk about it, I think you can't. I think that
22:56
you need to be careful on how you are speaking
22:59
on it. If you're making generalization.
23:02
Speaker 2: For the entire Yes, I agree.
23:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you had your experience that you would
23:08
like to talk about, I think, you know, maybe it
23:10
may shed light. Maybe other people may feel the same way.
23:14
I know me and you both were part of Jehovah's
23:16
witnesses and we have experiences. But I want you to
23:20
think about it. Think about maybe how some of your
23:22
feelings you felt in the beginning compared to now, like
23:24
right now, it's kind of like lessened off and you
23:26
have like more like a more Well, it.
23:28
Speaker 2: Was a terrible experience.
23:30
Speaker 1: What was a terrible experience for me, But I never
23:33
thought that using this platform or any of my platforms
23:36
was to take them down, because it's to me, there's
23:42
good and bad that came out the religion, and you
23:46
can always leave the religion. You know, you have a
23:49
freedom to leave with the religion. So I'm not going
23:51
to sit here and bast a religion when people are happy,
23:53
clearly happy within it. You know, people actually are enjoying
23:57
thinking that their lives is they're having a good life
23:59
because they're participating in that religion. Just because my experience
24:03
was terrible, I don't really feel the need to bash
24:08
them that the whole religion. You know.
24:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I definitely agree with that,
24:13
I think, but with her. Remember she mentioned that when
24:17
people try to leave that.
24:19
Speaker 1: They're like, you're taken away.
24:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, taken away.
24:24
Speaker 3: So to me, that's red flax. That's kind of scary, right,
24:29
I want to hear about it. But I do think
24:31
to your point for religions, I don't think that you
24:34
need to try to tear something that other people are
24:36
happy with because you don't know, because you didn't have
24:38
the best experience, you have the best expirence, okay, but
24:41
also if you feel like you want to share, then
24:44
then to be wrong for us to not allow persons
24:48
to express themselves.
24:50
Speaker 1: Well the think, Okay, so when we hear stuff about
24:52
the Catholic religion and how the pastor you know, there's
24:57
a high rate of molestation with the that religion of
25:00
Catholics there is, it makes it makes it makes us
25:05
look at the religion sideways, you know, and we shouldn't
25:09
take one person's bad ways and have that and have
25:13
them representing the entire religion, if that makes sense. So
25:17
I know when the Jove Witness religion, we both that's
25:21
how we met back in a or O nine. We
25:23
both are in the religion, and I know that you
25:26
and I had two different experiences. We're both out of it,
25:31
but you and I had two different experiences where you
25:33
enjoyed yourself but I did not. And it was a
25:38
lot of you know, a lot of taling, a lot
25:43
of talent tata taling. That that drove me crazy because
25:49
here I am in my twenties and I can't hang
25:52
out with anybody outside the religion. You know. I can't
25:55
have no friends that I go to school with, can't
25:57
have no friends that I work with. And I remember
26:00
going out to dinner with a coworker and I saw
26:03
someone part of my congregations, and they knew that person
26:06
wasn't a jovial witness because they had tattoos on their neck,
26:10
and they reported me. They told on me, and I'm like,
26:13
but this person isn't a bad person.
26:15
Speaker 2: You know.
26:15
Speaker 1: We're just grabbing lunch. I think we are just on
26:17
our lunch break and we just grabbed one of the
26:18
apple Bee's with chilis, and I got in trouble for that,
26:21
and I'm like, here, I am a fucking grown ass
26:23
man that I can't even do lunch with a simple coworker.
26:27
Because that's because they believe that if you have friends
26:29
without the religion, you are going to get poisoned or
26:33
or or what's the word to be like bad association.
26:37
But they don't want you to be misled to think
26:40
to live in a worldly life is a terminology that
26:42
they used. If you're not part of the religion, you're
26:45
considered worldly. M hm. It was yeah, go ahead, no no, no, no,
26:50
you got finished. But it's more to it, like the hairstyles, well,
26:54
certain hairstyles I couldn't have. I remember I had like
26:56
a semi mohawk that had to cut off because they
26:58
didn't think that it was to their protocol, their dress protocol.
27:02
I didn't look appealing. I remember for a tattoo, had
27:06
to make sure all my tattoos were covered. I at
27:09
the time. I know that it's different now, but the time,
27:12
they were against college. So I was in college and
27:15
I was like they were mad. That was in God.
27:16
It was like so many different things that I was
27:18
being ridiculed about, and I just didn't enjoyment. I did
27:21
not enjoy myself in the religion. I didn't and I
27:24
chose to walk away. Whereas for you you were kicked
27:27
out of the religion. I don't know if you're comfortable
27:30
with saying that, but you were. You were kicked out
27:32
in religion, and they publicly announced your you being kicked out,
27:37
and it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to do that to anybody.
27:41
But the Mormons and the Scientology they do the same thing.
27:44
They do a public excommunication announcement, just like how we
27:49
experienced it in our religion.
27:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you kind of go back to
27:55
what you were saying, were not about like bashing at
27:59
all religion. But you can be able to share experience.
28:02
And there was a time where I where I when
28:05
I was in the religion, where I was happy, like
28:10
I had some of the best experiences because before the religion,
28:13
I was quote unquote worldly.
28:15
Speaker 2: So I have friends, so I had got a chance
28:17
to party with friends.
28:18
Speaker 3: I've got a chance to do all those crazy things,
28:20
all the regular crazy things, but normal things. And then
28:23
coming into their religion, I was like, oh, this is
28:25
like a breath of the fresh air, Like okay, like
28:27
I can find good friends who are not doing these things.
28:30
Speaker 2: So I had a really good experience until up.
28:33
Speaker 3: Until you know the end, where my where I was
28:38
told pretty much I got kicked out because the things
28:40
that you know, I had done when it comes to
28:44
you know, the overall gaining, like that's something.
28:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were someone snitched on you too, right?
28:52
Speaker 2: No, actually I actually I said something.
28:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, are you saying not just for the
28:59
podcast or saying something well, not for someone snitched on you.
29:03
Speaker 3: No, that's just well, that's rumors because you know, in
29:06
the in the the congregation, they a lot of times
29:12
was the word they they gossip.
29:15
Speaker 2: All they have is all they have each other. They
29:17
just gossip. So no, I snitched on I went and
29:22
said something me and the other person when said.
29:25
Speaker 1: Something, oh, because what I heard the word on the
29:30
curb was that the other person went to go say
29:32
something that was the word on the curb. All these years,
29:36
it was have been fifteen years since that happened. I thought,
29:38
really that they snitched on you.
29:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, about to be fifteen years.
29:42
Speaker 3: And so what happened is the other other people who
29:46
knew about it was part of our friend group. They
29:51
told other other one other person who were their friend,
29:54
and that one of the person another friend and then
29:56
before you know what, the whole entire story was that
29:58
you know, like walk down somebody's somebody's walking into the
30:03
room and and they've seen this and was shocked.
30:06
Speaker 1: And so did I ask a question, did you feel
30:10
pressure to? Did you feel pressure to?
30:13
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
30:15
Speaker 1: Because of wait, so did someone walk in on you?
30:17
Speaker 2: Guys?
30:18
Speaker 1: What made you? What made you telling yourself? Then?
30:22
Speaker 3: No, I think because I because I knew that the
30:26
other person had told the other friend.
30:29
Speaker 2: Soget because.
30:35
Speaker 1: Not because you have to get a conscience.
30:39
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, well, well, and and then I
30:43
kind of I started feeling myself like thinking, this is
30:47
actually what I want to do anyway, Like I I.
30:51
Speaker 2: Like I was enjoying it being in the congregation. I
30:56
was enjoying it. I can't even lie like I loved it.
31:00
Speaker 3: But there was a point of me, There was a
31:03
point of time where I was like, I felt like
31:06
what I wanted, my cravings of like wanting to be
31:09
part of the LGBTQ. Plus it was there was so heavy.
31:12
And it wasn't that I was around anything or anybody
31:15
was was was in my head.
31:17
Speaker 1: It was it was me. It was was it was
31:19
who I was.
31:21
Speaker 2: And I thought that I could suppress a lot of
31:26
feelings for a long time.
31:27
Speaker 3: But I couldn't and I did it, and like I
31:30
needed this time of just doing what I'm doing who
31:34
I am, And I probably the most happiest that I've
31:37
been now that I'm one hundred percent myself. That I
31:42
am not scared of being flamboyant sometime and I'm not
31:45
scared of also tapping into my masculinity is because I
31:50
am who I am, and I think that what the
31:53
religion did to me a lot of time was suppressed
31:56
a lot of that.
31:56
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you one quick story. I never told
31:58
your story. So the very very first first time.
32:04
Speaker 3: That I was part of the religion, I was eighteen
32:08
and I did something with I did someone with with
32:11
the you know, I did something.
32:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is another guy, and I remember I had
32:18
to tell them, So I was.
32:19
Speaker 3: I was announced the first time as no longer being
32:22
they call the unbaptized publisher.
32:23
Speaker 2: So at this time I was eighteen turned.
32:25
Speaker 3: Nineteen, so you take that away from me, and but
32:29
I still wanted to be a part of the organization,
32:32
so I stayed around. But even as a teenager, I
32:35
could talk to them, but I couldn't hang out with anybody.
32:38
So here I am nineteen years old. I couldn't hang
32:41
out with any of them.
32:42
Speaker 4: And I was because you bad association, asiation association, because
32:49
I had I had did something with a guy and son.
32:53
Speaker 2: We didn't even go all the way.
32:54
Speaker 1: You know.
32:55
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of or little kids and
32:56
they ain't even do we't eed to go all the way.
33:00
Speaker 3: Met him and still friends right now. I just saw
33:01
him be not too long ago, all these years later.
33:05
So anyway, so I remember one of the elders telling me,
33:12
and his voice would be like, don't hold your hand
33:14
like this.
33:16
Speaker 1: Oh my god, same here, yes, oh my god, don't
33:20
be like this. And people people used to come.
33:24
Speaker 2: To him and I said, I had a dream that
33:29
I was gay and I'm still gay. I had that dream.
33:33
Would this ever go away? And what can I do about?
33:37
Does that mean? No?
33:37
Speaker 3: I remember I said this, I had a dream that
33:39
I was gay. Does that mean it's still in my heart?
33:44
And going back on it to think about that who
33:49
I was was completely wrong, completely.
33:52
Speaker 2: This is not who you're supposed to be. Now.
33:54
Speaker 3: Granted, I would admit it was all love. There wasn't
33:57
like rude or you're a terrible person, you're bagging here.
33:59
This none of that it was none of that, but
34:01
it still was me suppressing who I who I was.
34:07
And it wasn't that I didn't wake up saying when
34:10
I was a kid, or I want to be gay,
34:11
I want to be about of the lgbt Q plus community.
34:13
Speaker 2: I want to do this, you know, I want to
34:15
I never ever ever had that idea. It was just
34:19
something that was in me as a kid.
34:22
Speaker 3: And so being told that during those religion was that
34:26
was hard for me, especially when I look back on it,
34:28
like this is like my person really reflecting where I
34:30
was totally put your hands like this, or sometimes you
34:33
talk too much with your hands. But I was raised
34:35
my home with four sisters and as the in my mom,
34:38
so I was raised with five women in ours. So
34:40
I'm naturally a person who was very expressive. So that
34:43
was very That was very That was very tough for me,
34:45
And there's a couple of different instances that made me
34:47
suppress who I was.
34:49
Speaker 2: Now, will I come and bash Joe Witness is absolutely not,
34:54
Absolutely not.
34:55
Speaker 3: If I was not a part of the l g
34:57
b t Q plus community, I will tell you right now,
34:59
I will go back because there's a lot of great
35:01
people there.
35:02
Speaker 1: Do you remember do you remember you and I's argument
35:06
many a couple of years ago when you told me that,
35:09
and I was really angry that you wanted to go back.
35:13
You were still living in Seattle. I was very angry
35:15
about that.
35:16
Speaker 2: Just I think that was last argument. I think that
35:18
was what argument.
35:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we didn't talk for a couple of years after. Yeah,
35:22
that was five years. We didn't talk after that argument.
35:26
But I was angry with you about it because of
35:31
I think when you said you want because you were
35:33
trying to go back at that time, and I kept
35:37
telling you you're you can't be yourself. They will never
35:41
allow you to be yourself. And why would you go back.
35:45
It's like going back to jail. Why would you go
35:47
back to prison?
35:48
Speaker 2: Words.
35:49
Speaker 3: I'm going to remind you what your words were. You
35:51
were said you were joking with this. It got serious
35:54
to them, but you were like, you're always gonna be
35:57
a faggant.
35:57
Speaker 2: You're a faggant, just stop it. You didn't say that,
36:03
You say, Anthony, you're faggot. That's what you're gonna be. Like,
36:07
what are you doing? And I got so mad.
36:10
Speaker 3: I'm like, if I don't want to be a fact,
36:12
I ain't gonna be no fagged I ain't no faggy,
36:13
but I got so mad didn't be sorry. And then
36:15
you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Well, here's what I mean.
36:17
Do you talk about being yourself and blah blah blah.
36:20
And at that time I was just mentioned.
36:22
Speaker 1: This was all at a restaurant. By the way everyone
36:24
was looking at us. It was so embarrassing. It wasn't
36:26
really bad. It was really bad. It was mirrible. The
36:29
argument was like really really bad and it was bad.
36:32
Speaker 3: But what you were saying, and I, as time went on,
36:35
I understood what you're saying. Like, now, that's why you
36:37
know we reached our reached out a few years ago,
36:40
is that I was suppressing who I am, which I
36:45
enjoyed being this very outgoing person because it's me. I
36:50
enjoy looking at handsome ass men because it's me. I
36:52
love women too, but I really like men them, you know,
36:57
like I was, I was enjoying it. I was I
37:00
enjoying who I am right now. And I felt like
37:03
a lot of times I wasn't naturally being me because
37:06
I wanted to go back there. And that's what you
37:07
were trying to tell And it was hard for me
37:10
to accept that is because the love that I had
37:12
knew for a long time was in the organization, was
37:15
in the religion. But again, I wouldn't do what she did,
37:19
and I'm not going to see her even on this podcast.
37:21
I'm not gonnaid her and say that it was terrible,
37:23
the worst ever. Know, I do not regret some of
37:26
the amazing people that I met wehll I still miss.
37:29
Speaker 1: But yeah, because they're not allowed to Once you leave
37:31
the religion, people within the religion aren't allowed to talk
37:33
to you. So when you first got kicked out the religion,
37:36
you and I first stopped talking for about two or
37:39
three years because I was under the impression that because
37:42
you left, you did something bad and I'm not allowed
37:45
to talk to you. And I felt really guilty about
37:47
that because I'm like, just because he's still a good person,
37:50
why am I stop talking to him? And I think
37:52
that's when I started to like really be like get
37:55
my aha moment. But then too, David Anthonys's first name
38:00
if people don't know, if we have new listeners, his
38:02
first name is the Anthony. So I may slip up
38:05
sometime and call you Anthony, But David, I don't This
38:09
is the thing that really frustrates me because I couldn't
38:11
really be honest with you and all our mutual friends
38:14
about who I was. I had to hide my sexuality
38:17
from all of you guys. I couldn't really authentically be
38:20
myself because but the thing is, though I could, I couldn't.
38:27
I couldn't know if I could tell you guys that
38:29
because I was scared that someone will snitch on me
38:32
or I was scared of the consequences behind it. So
38:35
I had to put on this persona that I was
38:38
a heterosexual male. And and yeah, I just felt like
38:43
our years that we were that we got to know
38:48
each other wasn't as authentic as it could be.
38:51
Speaker 3: You know.
38:52
Speaker 1: Like, and I feel like for all of because our
38:54
entire circle of friends are no longer in the religion,
38:57
because obviously over the years we all start to wake
39:00
up and realize like we're being controlled. But we all
39:03
couldn't really be honest with each other because we didn't
39:05
know if we could really thoroughly trust each other like
39:08
that with keeping secrets and not going to the outers
39:11
and stitching on us and having our privileges revoked and
39:14
removed from from us. So I don't know. I will
39:18
never go back. I'm thankful for the opportunity because it
39:23
made me who I am today. I think that I
39:25
look at religion completely different now, where I think most
39:30
religion gives me cult vibes. But I just had a
39:35
terrible experience, I really had. It was it was very, very,
39:40
just so bad. It was. I'm just so depressed for
39:45
the first six years of my twenties. I feel like
39:47
I wasted my entire twenties away because they really brainwashed
39:52
me into just not trusting anybody. I couldn't trust anybody.
39:58
I couldn't trust a goddamn person because I'm so nice
40:00
and I like to hang out with anybody, and I
40:02
was always being reprimanded for for hanging out with someone
40:06
without the religion. Listening to rap music. We know we're
40:08
not allowed to listen to rap music. Not a lot
40:10
of see right of our movies. It was like, I
40:13
can't watch this TV show, can't have this hairstyle, can't
40:16
dye your hair, can't remember you couldn't have facial hair
40:20
at the time. Now I know it's changed, you can
40:22
have this hair. But the reason why I still keep
40:24
my face today, I'm not clean shaved, but I usually
40:27
am clean shaved is because they embedded that in my
40:29
brain that it's appropriate to look clean shaved. So we
40:32
weren't allowed to have facial minus a beard, minus a mustache,
40:35
no beard, right, just.
40:36
Speaker 2: A mustache, no be just mustache.
40:38
Speaker 1: So we're only allowed to have a mustache. No faith,
40:41
no beard, no no side hair. It just was not
40:47
meant for me. And when I did watch Lea Remedy Scientology,
40:52
they had an episode. They did have an episode about
40:54
Jova witnesses, and they had a couple of people who
40:57
were Jove witnesses and they spoke out on their experiences
41:01
and I I understood half of them, and then of
41:05
the other half. I was amazed and shocked at what
41:08
they went through and their experiences. But yeah, it's just
41:11
not for me, not for me whatsoever. But if it's
41:13
for you, any of the listeners who are in the religion,
41:15
well I guess they're on following us now because they're
41:17
not allowed to really associate themselves with us. So don't worry, guys,
41:22
I won't tell. I won't tell. Welcome to the comment section,
41:27
Welcome to the other side. But I yeah, I right, Hi,
41:34
But yeah, it was just it was just it wasn't
41:35
for me. And if people are, you know, interested in
41:40
learning about any of these religions more Moremninism, scientology, so witnesses,
41:45
you know, go ahead and look into it. Maybe that's
41:48
religion for you, maybe that's your calling. But to me,
41:52
it was just too controlled and too call like, if
41:56
I can use that term analogy, you know, I lost
41:58
a lot of friends over that lot a lot of friends,
42:01
and when I got out of family, I felt like
42:03
nobody it's it's just yeah, it's just it's one of those. So, Heather,
42:09
good luck with you and your Surviving Mormonism show. I'm
42:13
not watch an episode to see what people got to say.
42:15
But so you've never did you never watched any of
42:18
those shows that for people talking about about the religion.
42:22
Speaker 2: No, no, I it's funny.
42:24
Speaker 3: I don't think I've even watched that many or the
42:28
seventy YouTube videos and know there's a lot of folks
42:30
who they talk about different religions and what they've went through.
42:34
Speaker 2: I've actually and I think maybe because it's from your.
42:37
Speaker 3: Witnesses, because your whole witness if you're listening listening to
42:40
any type of we call apostates, a bashing either the
42:45
religion or bashing.
42:48
Speaker 1: The religion that religion they're called they're called the pastates
42:51
across the board.
42:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, they called it a pastates.
42:55
Speaker 3: So even like now, I don't really listen to any
42:58
form of people who like bash any kind of religions
43:02
because I'm like, maybe it's still embedded in me because
43:04
I hate that's your experience.
43:06
Speaker 1: Okay, that's you know, I do, but I sometimes, well,
43:12
you know, I'd just like to hear people experiences like
43:16
I don't know if you know this that there is
43:20
a no call law within that religion. Do you know that? No,
43:26
I mean call law. No, no, don't call the police law.
43:31
Do you know that? J w's mm hmm. If you
43:40
were to be raped by someone in the organization, you
43:45
are not allowed to call the cops. The organization will
43:47
handle themselves. And I guess that has happened a lot
43:52
of times throughout the years, the existence of showfulitnesses where
43:56
a lot of people, a lot of a lot of
43:58
little girls are raped by older men within the organization
44:02
and they never went to jail because you're you're not
44:05
allowed to call the police for anything, you know, if
44:08
and the reasonings behind that is because if let's say
44:12
I accused someone of rape and I called the police
44:15
and that gets out on the press, that's bad press
44:18
right now, that the world will see, oh we have
44:19
rapists now, so let's handle it in house. Soula doesn't
44:22
get out of house. And so that was a lot
44:26
of the when Leah Remedie did that episode on her
44:30
show Scientology about the show of Witnesses, that was a
44:32
couple of experiences that people are talking about and I
44:35
had no idea. I mean, I didn't know that we
44:37
weren't allowed to call the cops, that we will handle
44:39
it ourselves if it comes to someone stole from us,
44:42
or if it came from like a physical violence situation.
44:45
But I never thought about someone beating raped or even
44:48
you know, I never thought about that to that extreme
44:50
at that time when I was in the religion. But
44:52
I didn't know we weren't really it wasn't it wasn't
44:55
suggested to ever get the police involved in our stuff.
45:03
Speaker 2: I feel like I.
45:03
Speaker 3: Heard that a little bit after, I think during it
45:07
because I never was evolved with any kind of I
45:11
got never heard.
45:12
Speaker 2: Of any any of it, so I don't neither.
45:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, so but I did read.
45:18
Speaker 3: Afterwards that that was the case, like I've heard. I
45:20
did read afterward. I heard a little bit, but of
45:22
course I don't. I haven't watched that much different religions
45:28
of people having their experiences that were negative. I just
45:30
I still to this day, maybe I will look at
45:32
some things. But I did very very vaguely hear how
45:37
they do not call the.
45:40
Speaker 2: Law and they normally handle it within the religion.
45:43
Speaker 3: But I'm I don't have any experience on it, so
45:46
I can't really it's hard for me to kind of
45:48
to answer that question.
45:50
Speaker 2: But I did hear about it, So yeah, just.
45:53
Speaker 1: Stuff like that that surprises me when I listened. And
45:55
by the way, we are now if any trouble and
45:58
saists are listening to this, we are now considered apostates.
46:02
F YI. So I don't think there's any going back
46:05
for you. If you are still interested in going back,
46:07
you are now considered an apostate because we're talking.
46:11
Speaker 2: And I'm just giving my experience.
46:13
Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're gonna say that it's bashing. Same here,
46:15
I'm just giving my experience. They know they will, And
46:19
by the way, I know that when I was talking
46:21
about Heather Gay Show, on my Instagram page, and I
46:23
said that I'm not there for it because I don't
46:27
think I don't believe in Bashian religions. A couple of youth,
46:30
a couple of you, said they're happy that she's doing this.
46:34
You're happy that Leah did Scientology the Scientology show because
46:37
it gives people within the religion an idea of what's
46:41
happening within their own religion. I'm gonna tell you this
46:43
right now. When we were in that Jove Witness the religion,
46:46
and if anything negative was coming out about the religion,
46:50
we were told not to watch it because it's evil.
46:54
So they're probably the people in within those religions are
46:57
probably being told not to watch this content even there,
47:00
and they're brainwatching people to think that it's from the devil,
47:03
it's from Satan. You know, don't watch it. If you
47:06
watch it, you're gonna you know, Satan's gonna take over.
47:08
So I'm pretty sure that none of the people in
47:10
that religion are going to watch Heather Show, and they
47:12
probably never even watched Leo's show, just because they're scared
47:16
of the consequences from God. Am I making sense? Does
47:18
that make sense?
47:19
Speaker 2: No?
47:20
Speaker 3: I mean that makes perfect sense again, like I just said,
47:22
because like for so long I was told not to listen.
47:25
Speaker 2: A certain thing, like I have not.
47:28
Speaker 3: Like I can't even remember how many times I've heard
47:31
anything with the negative outs.
47:33
Speaker 2: Even after leaving organization, I don't really listen to anything.
47:36
Speaker 1: And you got out in twenty eleven, so it's been
47:39
many years. It's been fifteen, fourteen or fifteen years since
47:42
you left. Well, shout out to all the JW's you know, hey,
47:49
so yeah, hey, hey, m hm. Jennifer Lopez de Vid.
47:54
You know, she's saying that all the men that she
47:56
dated and was engaged to were uncapable of loving her.
48:00
She was on the Howard Stern shell and I have
48:04
the little snippet take a look, no, no, and do
48:09
you think you really have experienced loving someone? Yes, you have,
48:13
and when you can't get that love back.
48:15
Speaker 2: What I learned, it's not that I'm not lovable, is
48:19
that they're not capable. They can't love, they don't have
48:22
it in them.
48:23
Speaker 1: They need to.
48:23
Speaker 2: Appreciate the little person inside of them.
48:25
Speaker 1: They need to give themships. And they gave me what
48:29
they had, but they gave me all of it every time.
48:32
But it's this much, all the rings, all the things
48:35
I could ever want try to give me, the houses,
48:37
the rings, the marriage.
48:38
Speaker 2: All of it.
48:40
Speaker 1: But they didn't love you. They didn't and didn't know you,
48:43
and I didn't love myself. You know a lot of
48:45
people are bashing j Loo for this. Just because she
48:48
was engaged six times and married four times, she can
48:52
still feel like men are uncapable of loving her.
48:57
Speaker 3: Right, no, I don't give, but I'm gonna let you
49:00
go go ahead take it for whatever. So I think
49:07
there's a point of time that we have to have
49:10
some kind of self accountability. If your ass was engaged
49:15
not one, not twice, not three times, but six times,
49:20
and nobody was capable of loving you, nobody was capable
49:26
of really loving you.
49:27
Speaker 2: Because you said that they haven't loved themselves, maybe.
49:32
Speaker 3: You're uncapable of actually loving because after a while, you
49:37
have to eventually do self reflection and she didn't do
49:40
any of that. She was just saying that they were
49:43
uncapable of loving her because she don't think that they
49:46
some of them have loved themselves.
49:48
Speaker 2: Do you love yourself? You say you gave all you have,
49:52
but you didn't find love after sixth time, and you
49:54
probably sixty.
49:55
Speaker 1: Three, She's not sixty three.
49:59
Speaker 3: Shit, Well, she's been around for a long time and
50:03
she looked for five years five years, so she's five years,
50:07
so I ain't too far off. But the point is,
50:10
like I think it has to be some kind of
50:11
self accountability. Like for a perfect example, I have self accountability.
50:17
I understand why some of the reason why I'm single
50:19
because the guys really like me and some of the
50:23
women who like me guess what, they're not who I want,
50:28
not because like not because they can't love me, or
50:30
not because I can't even other it's just not who
50:32
I want. But then the ones who I want a
50:35
perfect example, I like guys who are in shape. I'm
50:38
not in shape, but I'm trying to find guys who
50:40
are in shape. Guess what I need to find out
50:43
with them myself. Let me be who I'm trying to get.
50:46
Let me be that person first before I can get there.
50:48
I can take self accountability of knowing that I'm single
50:51
because the people who like me I don't like them,
50:53
and the ones I like I'm not what they want
50:55
because they are what I want, but I'm not willing
50:57
to put in the work to get there.
51:02
Speaker 2: No comma zero, comma no no, no period ahead. What
51:09
you think, well take a fore because I know you
51:11
go on to.
51:14
Speaker 1: I'm not going to. I don't know. I honestly believe
51:18
if she believes it in her heart, So I can't
51:20
say if she's lying or if she's doing the truth,
51:23
because if she's saying it, clearly she believes it. So,
51:26
you know, just because someone was married six times doesn't
51:29
mean that she felt like they all loved her. But
51:31
her ex, her first ex husband, definitely doesn't agree with
51:34
what she said, and he is somewhat saying what you
51:36
said vide so he said on social media. Stop putting
51:40
us down, Stop putting me down with your victim card.
51:43
The problem is not us, not me. The problem is you.
51:47
You the one who couldn't keep it in your pants.
51:51
You have been loved few times, You have been married
51:54
four times and have countless relationships in between. You have
51:58
had good relationships me, for example, I was in love
52:02
with you. I even moved out of state, leaving my job,
52:06
my family and friends behind to support you, to love,
52:09
to protect you and care for you. I'm an amazing person,
52:13
great human being, honest, faithful to you, never lied, never misbehaved,
52:17
never cheated on you. I was good to you, but
52:20
you you chose fame and fortune moving apart from our relationship.
52:25
You decided to lie, to cheat on me, and even
52:28
though I stayed, I even tried to keep the marriage
52:31
going and alive. You even begged me to stay because
52:34
at the time you didn't want bad press, caring more
52:37
about you than me, so about your career instead of
52:41
saving the marriage. I stayed, but you when but you
52:46
you win for the fast lane of your career, stardom,
52:50
not caring about me. What's been a typo somewhere in there.
52:53
You wanted to continue on cheating and lying, and I
52:55
couldn't stay anymore and deal with the consistent line. That's
52:59
why I left you, and that's why it divorced you.
53:02
So that's what he had to say. And like I said,
53:07
you know, in her heart she believes that these men
53:09
never loved her. But he's saying, like you cheated on me.
53:12
I was here for you. I moved out of state.
53:13
So I don't know. J Lo is not looking good
53:15
for you. I know that a lot of people are
53:17
not on your side, considering they found the Ashanti Sings
53:20
Half Year Music for you, and you didn't really do
53:22
a lot of the vocals. But I'm still a j
53:24
Lo fan. I love a lot of most of her
53:26
movies and I like a lot of her music too,
53:28
So it's really hard for me to really say anything
53:31
negative about Jlo. So how just leave it to you
53:34
and all the listeners to bash Jlo if they prefer
53:38
to bash her and not support her.
53:42
Speaker 2: Wow, so you just left her alone?
53:46
Speaker 1: Huh?
53:47
Speaker 2: I love what you just you just you just you're
53:50
not gonna You're not gonna say anything. Yeah, no comment.
53:53
Speaker 1: I mean I made my comment. I think she really
53:56
believes that. That's what I mean, that's my comment. I'm
53:58
not gonna. I can't really just say how someone feels.
54:01
If that's how she feels, that's how she feels. What what? Where?
54:04
What am I to say? You know, It's like it's
54:07
like I've been in like I've been in four relationships,
54:12
and I feel like all of the people that dated
54:14
were dumb. That's my opinion. Now do they think they're dumb? No,
54:19
So you know this is my opinion. Their dummies. You
54:21
know I dated all dummies. I I clearly I have
54:24
a type and the type is dummies. And you know.
54:27
No one can tell me that I didn't date dummies,
54:29
because I think I did. So it's like that similar
54:31
to that.
54:33
Speaker 2: Oh so you are a delusional just like her? Got it?
54:38
Got it? Okay, I also have I also.
54:40
Speaker 1: Have dummies as friends, I e. You bitch a dummy
54:45
ass hater.
54:47
Speaker 3: I have like some kind of cute little comeback for
54:49
for dummies. I think there's some really good candies. Isn't
54:51
what good candies for dumb dumbs?
54:53
Speaker 2: They're really good.
54:55
Speaker 1: Well, I only eat the candies called smarties, so I
54:58
don't know about dumb dumb. I know about the smarties.
55:03
Speaker 2: Dan. I'm not trying to think of a comeback. I
55:04
cannot think of anything.
55:05
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't level up.
55:06
Speaker 3: No, well, because where you are it's probably even then Mars,
55:11
because you're definitely not here next for are next?
55:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm that's not bars that would ever be
55:22
featured on a rap album. No, absolutely not.
55:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's pretty good, wow, excellent.
55:28
Speaker 1: Also, that was our show today, friend, that was it. Yeah,
55:35
we wrapped it up under our which I love, you know,
55:40
but we.
55:41
Speaker 3: Didn't even say about our weekends. Now we can talk
55:43
about our weekend because we still got seven minutes.
55:46
Speaker 1: So I'm switching up the lay up the is it
55:49
the lay up? The layout of the podcast? You know?
55:52
The v suggested that instead of talking about our personal
55:56
lives in the very beginning, that we just jumped right
55:58
into the show. And I actually agree with you, which
56:02
is why I went along with it, because I'm like,
56:03
you know what, people don't care about me personally. People
56:06
don't care about you personally. They care about.
56:12
Speaker 2: You.
56:12
Speaker 1: Getting interjected when I said that about me, though, Where
56:15
was it? Where was it the interjection when I said
56:17
that about.
56:17
Speaker 2: Me, Well, you're right about you?
56:21
Speaker 1: Oh delusional?
56:26
Speaker 3: Well it was because you're talking about Brandy having diarrhea,
56:30
So I know people are.
56:32
Speaker 1: She did have di I know she did. Indeed, I've
56:35
done that walk off. I've done that. I've done that
56:39
walk off several times, so I know when someone has diarrhea,
56:43
you clinch her butt cheeks look clenched together, all right?
56:48
Oh I saw fit with Okay, I know the walk
56:53
there was a bow legged walk. She was holding her
56:55
butt cheeks together, all right. But no, I I liked
57:00
your I liked your feedback and your criticism because I
57:03
do agree that maybe let's talk about us personally and
57:06
more talk about the topics and the first ten minutes
57:11
was always a struggle for me and that other person
57:14
they used to do the podcast, but because we didn't
57:16
know how to get the show started and up until
57:18
you said it, you know, last week you said, let's
57:20
just just jump right into the show after the theme song.
57:23
I'm like, oh, okay, I guess that's a choice. You know,
57:26
there's no point of for planing, just put the dick
57:28
in the hole, So I think we should do it. Yeah.
57:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why people get stretched too fast, just
57:36
right in the whole Jesus Christ.
57:38
Speaker 2: So but I will say this though also too, like.
57:42
Speaker 3: We we always are talking shit anyway, So I think
57:46
it's it's I think it's easier to kind of just
57:48
like just get into the show because our natural banter
57:53
is going to come out throughout the show as it is.
57:56
But yeah, I do want to talk about all weekend
57:58
really really quick. Okay, So I'm on the last round
58:02
of my interviews. I think I told you I got
58:04
moved into the very last round, which I had to
58:08
like write.
58:08
Speaker 2: This proposal, which guess what, I got it good? But
58:12
that is not even that is not even the issue.
58:14
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, you got the job or you got
58:16
the proposal.
58:18
Speaker 3: I had to write a proposal today, which I had
58:20
to hand it in, so I'll find out by like Friday,
58:23
so next week the show.
58:25
Speaker 1: Trying to clarify, I was like, you got the job,
58:26
all right, Okay, go ahead, But my.
58:29
Speaker 2: Ex who you met okay in Houston, who is still.
58:34
Speaker 1: Can the African? I can say the African? Right? Oh?
58:37
Why not?
58:39
Speaker 2: Sure? Okay?
58:40
Speaker 1: Sure?
58:41
Speaker 2: Well I don't think he's gonna listen to this show.
58:43
He made.
58:45
Speaker 3: He Oh no, he doesn't listen. Fuck, I said, But
58:52
he broke up with his boyfriend, and I was so excited.
58:58
Why I'm excited is because his boyfriend was taking up
59:03
too much time. And mind you, evenough he's my ex,
59:06
he still like one of my really good friends and
59:08
we talked every day. So him taking that away, I
59:12
was just happy that he got a chance to see
59:14
that it's the one who he's dating.
59:16
Speaker 2: He was dating was a piece of ship anyway, and
59:18
I already knew that.
59:19
Speaker 1: So she's still talking to someone else, that's not the point.
59:26
That's that is the point. The point, that is the point.
59:29
Speaker 2: Well, he's still my friend.
59:31
Speaker 1: You're happy that your ex got dumped.
59:34
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, no, my ex they get dumb.
59:37
My ex dumped the other one. That's pretty so.
59:41
Speaker 1: So he's saying, I know the real team.
59:42
Speaker 2: He don't know. I got the t I got the time.
59:48
I can't tell the business because he is. He listens.
59:53
Speaker 1: No one's listening.
59:54
Speaker 2: Tell me what happened, but it's recorded. Yeah, i'll tell
59:58
you how about this? I will tell you after.
1:00:00
Speaker 1: Oh you're no fun. We love your story.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm pretty happy.
1:00:06
Speaker 1: That's really a toxic trait. By the way that you're
1:00:09
laughing and happy that you couldn't wait to that's part
1:00:11
of you. That's why you're happy this week this that's
1:00:13
the weekend story that your ex broke up with their
1:00:16
spouse and you are smiling from air to ear about
1:00:21
their downfall. Yeah, you sound like a little bit like
1:00:25
j Lo, like, oh wow, it's happening there for you.
1:00:30
What is happening?
1:00:32
Speaker 3: I told you, But I have somelf accountability, unlike miss
1:00:35
sixty three year old.
1:00:36
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you can't knock Okay, she made thank you,
1:00:41
thank you? All right, come on now, you can't.
1:00:44
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, she is god awful, stunning.
1:00:49
Speaker 3: Okay, she she's stunning. But I mean, when you have
1:00:51
that much money, you can do all kind of nip
1:00:53
tuck and everything. The one begets some money, Let me
1:00:55
get some money. These little bit of ring right hair,
1:00:57
a little bit there gone. They may be going and
1:01:00
march ragged at my bonus.
1:01:01
Speaker 2: I don't know, sweetie.
1:01:02
Speaker 1: You can get scared. That's only six hundred dollars. That's
1:01:04
not that much money I actually have. I yes, I
1:01:08
have a good friend who does botox. Yes, come up
1:01:12
and visit. I can make you an appointment. It's six
1:01:14
hundred dollars. Trust me. I'm just scared to do it
1:01:16
because I don't like needles, especially small needles to the face.
1:01:18
But he was going to he it was a gun.
1:01:21
It's six needles on a gun. And I was like,
1:01:24
I backed out immediately, not interested. I forgot Oh my god,
1:01:29
I forgot the name of it because there was a
1:01:32
YouTube video of him performing it. And I said, nope,
1:01:35
not interested, Nope, nope, nope, nope. So I have a
1:01:38
m h m hmm.
1:01:39
Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, I have ad.
1:01:44
Speaker 1: To give you mm hmm hmm.
1:01:47
Speaker 2: I said, so I don't.
1:01:49
Speaker 3: I said, I know you have a little white in
1:01:50
you because you are biracial, so you probably gonna be
1:01:53
going back to him in a few in a few years.
1:01:57
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm not the one saying I need
1:01:59
it now, so you're the ones over there saying that
1:02:02
you need it for your eyes. So since you are
1:02:05
closer to j Loo's age and I'm still closer to twenty,
1:02:09
it's gonna be many years until I know with my
1:02:12
white ass. Now, that is a read. Bitch, stop coming
1:02:15
for me. You know you can't come for me. Ho,
1:02:17
stop stop coming for me. That's how you read a bit,
1:02:20
you know, you know, that's how you read a bit.
1:02:24
Speaker 2: Not if you're blind and you're reading Got Braill, you're
1:02:27
reading ship.
1:02:28
Speaker 1: Oh god, that sounds like a read from Cat and
1:02:31
a Hat, Like what are you? Doctor Seuss? Like what
1:02:32
the hell? What was that?
1:02:33
Speaker 2: Like? What?
1:02:34
Speaker 1: What?
1:02:34
Speaker 2: What?
1:02:35
Speaker 1: I'm blind and I'm reading I'm blind and I'm reading
1:02:39
in Brielle. First of all, it's not Brielle. It's I
1:02:45
don't even know what it is, but I know it's
1:02:46
not Brielle the way, the way.
1:02:48
Speaker 2: How your face just froze on this camera. Ide of that, I.
1:02:54
Speaker 1: Hope it still comes out really good because you are
1:02:57
actually like delayed, and I'm like, oh god, yeah, you
1:03:01
were delayed and frozen. So no, really, oh my god,
1:03:07
you have no but that's just your bit. You have cricket,
1:03:12
all right, you have fucking cricket as is not well.
1:03:18
Thank you for telling the audience that I didn't know that,
1:03:20
so clearly you're you keep up. Thank you for letting
1:03:22
us all know what you have. I had no idea
1:03:27
that your PCs was not around. You were slipping today, friend,
1:03:30
your age is showing. Honey, it's just.
1:03:34
Speaker 2: A little it's a little audience. Tell us how I look? Bill?
1:03:39
Tell us?
1:03:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have anything to add before you wrap
1:03:43
up today's episode?
1:03:45
Speaker 2: Oh shit, sometimes I be fucking forgetting recording. I just
1:03:48
be talking shit to you. I'll be forgetting m No.
1:03:51
I don't have anything other than.
1:03:55
Speaker 3: You understand how that diarrhea was for Brandy because you
1:03:59
get it so off.
1:04:00
Speaker 1: So so that was today's episode, all right. I am
1:04:04
not even going to entertain the buffoonery that he is
1:04:09
like just giving me with his corny ass reads.
1:04:12
Speaker 2: All right, that was not corny.
1:04:14
Speaker 1: That was real. You have diarrhea sometimes, and it's okay, yes,
1:04:19
all right, thank you, Thank you for letting me know
1:04:21
that it's okay. Thank you.
1:04:23
Speaker 2: I know, thank you, walk, he said, I know that walk.
1:04:29
Speaker 1: I do. I do, I do, I do, and so
1:04:34
do other and so do other men when they see
1:04:36
you coming. All right, so that today's episode, have a
1:04:40
good day everyone. We'll see you next Friday. Bye bye.
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