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Leveling Up Menopause: Brooke Burke on Thriving in Midlife, Wellness & Aging Gracefully · The Body Pod

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone. This is Haley and I'm Lara and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the Body Pod. Brooke Burke, Welcome to the Body Pod.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me in.
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  Speaker 2: What a gorgeous space. Isn't this amazing Silver Lake Downtown
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  Speaker 2: La worth it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so glad that we can be here with
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  Speaker 1: you in person. So I am dying to know you're
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about your background. How did I know
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  Speaker 1: you're from Arizona?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Let me take you on a walk down memory lane. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like.
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  Speaker 1: You are the jack of all trades, and I just
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  Speaker 1: want to know, did you know at an early age
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  Speaker 1: that you wanted to be a TV personality, that you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to have all of these different careers.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I would I never thought I would
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  Speaker 2: land in the entertainment business. I was a total tomboy.
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  Speaker 2: My father called me Charlie. We watched football and did
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  Speaker 2: mechanical things, and I was everything that I'm not today.
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  Speaker 3: I was always fascinated by business.
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  Speaker 2: I always loved to learn, but didn't really grow up
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  Speaker 2: in a family that prepped me for education and that
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  Speaker 2: was privileged enough to take me on that journey. And
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  Speaker 2: I honestly wound up in Hollywood and in the business.
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  Speaker 2: I am by I don't want to say accident, but
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  Speaker 2: like one step in front of the other. Never thought
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  Speaker 2: I would be in television, nor did I ever want
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  Speaker 2: to be. I thought I wanted to be a CEO,
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  Speaker 2: which I am now, but that's how we manifest as
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  Speaker 2: young girls. But I was always fascinated by business and
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  Speaker 2: came out to LA from Arizona with an acting scholarship
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  Speaker 2: and to just sort of dip my toes in the
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  Speaker 2: world of modeling and advertising. Back then, I wasn't tall enough.
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  Speaker 2: I was standing on my tippy toes trying to be
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  Speaker 2: three inches taller than I am, So I was never
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  Speaker 2: going to make it as a model, but I damn
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  Speaker 2: faked it and that was my ticket out to LA
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  Speaker 2: and then I never really I really looked back. But
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  Speaker 2: I did study broadcast journalism and business advertising at in
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  Speaker 2: Santa Monica and also at UCLA, and then I had
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to host wild On, so that took me
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  Speaker 2: on a travel stint around the world. So I didn't finish,
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  Speaker 2: but I took advantage of that once at a lifetime
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  Speaker 2: opportunity and got my greatest education on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Well, didn't you have an infant on the road month?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I traveled with you on Wild on Eth.
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  Speaker 2: Well, buzz kill everybody. I wasn't the quintessential party girl.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually pregnant for most of the show, seeing
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  Speaker 2: less and less and less of me, and as you
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  Speaker 2: can imagine, parts of me were growing and growing and growing.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty soon it was just boobs and face.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, I did forty countries with my daughter in
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  Speaker 2: two years. How a zest for life that was reality
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  Speaker 2: television before reality television. Took my oldest daughter, Mariyah on
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  Speaker 2: the road with me and we were just a package deal.
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  Speaker 2: We were a team and it was so fun and
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  Speaker 2: so fering, and I honestly we were just joking around
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  Speaker 2: before we started recording this podcast about how I did it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have done what I
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  Speaker 2: did then now today, knowing what I know, I just
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  Speaker 2: was not naive, but I was just maybe a little crazy,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't know better.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have friends with children.
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  Speaker 2: I was just finding my own way, and I raised
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  Speaker 2: her attachment bonding, never left her for five years.
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  Speaker 3: Took her all over the world with.
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  Speaker 2: Me, including like the Belizian jungle and Abisa in Italy
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  Speaker 2: and Morocco. I mean she filled up her passport by
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  Speaker 2: the time she was two. It was slightly crazy, amazing, beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: just god, what a story she has to tell. Oh yes,
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  Speaker 2: I made her a baby book called wild On Baby.
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  Speaker 2: So just to show you, I was not the party girl.
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  Speaker 2: I actually was with my child and a nurse in
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  Speaker 2: my hotel room while the party was going on at
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  Speaker 2: the club. So my life is really pretty boring.
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  Speaker 1: So what brought you? How long did you do Wild Honey?
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  Speaker 2: I did two years and then got pregnant with Sierra.
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  Speaker 2: They're two years apart, and then I was like I
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  Speaker 2: got to unpacked my bags and got off the road.
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  Speaker 2: And then I went on to do a couple more
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  Speaker 2: shows at E and then that segued into a network gig.
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  Speaker 2: My first show was with Mark Burnett hosting rock Star,
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  Speaker 2: which was amazing, so amazing, so fun on it was
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  Speaker 2: celebrating undiscovered talent. I was terrified to do that show
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  Speaker 2: and have that opportunity with him, but I learned so much.
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  Speaker 2: And then just a whole series of other things, and
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  Speaker 2: then probably the greatest event was Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 2: Dance I don't know, it was better dancing or hosting.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna die.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: So you you danced first and then you hosted.
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  Speaker 2: I danced first, which and you won somehow on a
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  Speaker 2: Women of Prayer, I won, but I'll tell you how
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  Speaker 2: and why I won. But my management team wanted me
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  Speaker 2: to host the show, not dance on the show, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, as a host, I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to dants on the show and see what it's
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  Speaker 2: like and get to know America who I really am,
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  Speaker 2: stripped down, unedited, doing something really scary outside of my
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  Speaker 2: comfort zone. And I felt like that was a great
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  Speaker 2: opportunity for me to really connect with women and moms
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  Speaker 2: around the world. And I had a three month old
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  Speaker 2: and I was my hormones. I was on a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know whether I was coming or going. I
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  Speaker 2: had four children at home. My relationship was an stellar
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  Speaker 2: at the time, I had a baby and I signed
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  Speaker 2: up for The Impossible. It was a seven day a
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  Speaker 2: week gig. People don't realize how hard it is. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it's as hard today because they have
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  Speaker 2: a lesser schedule, But at that time, we were live
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  Speaker 2: two days a week, we were training seven days a
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  Speaker 2: week performing two days.
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  Speaker 3: I had a baby and three other kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a lot, so like I would
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  Speaker 2: get home and my night shift would start and I
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  Speaker 2: was just grinding it out. It was the scariest thing
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  Speaker 2: I've ever done in my life, dancing, So after.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be mine show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean not only that you're being judged, fifteen
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  Speaker 2: plus million people are watching it, you're doing something you've
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  Speaker 2: never done before. I couldn't remember if it was left
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  Speaker 2: foot or right foot. I was terrible at choreography. I
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  Speaker 2: happened to have the greatest pro, Derek Huff at the
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  Speaker 2: time ever, who was such a phenomenal coach.
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  Speaker 3: And teacher and meticulous hard so hard on me. I
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  Speaker 3: could take it. I like tough love.
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  Speaker 2: He really demanded perfection, and I learned how to train
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  Speaker 2: like an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: I was scared shitless. It was harder than childbirth.
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  Speaker 2: And finally when we got in it to win it
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  Speaker 2: about I want to say, like six weeks into the program,
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  Speaker 2: everybody wants to injure themselves or quit that show.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, if you.
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  Speaker 2: Get to the semi finals, you do and nobody will
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  Speaker 2: ever talk about it. Cheryl Burke's a good friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: She has a very controversial podcast, so we talk about
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  Speaker 2: it all. But everybody that goes on that show, it's
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  Speaker 2: so hard to show it for yourself seven days a week.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard.
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  Speaker 2: Physically, it's hard. Emotionally, it's hard to speak. Actually, it's
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  Speaker 2: fricking hard. And then being able to train like that.
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  Speaker 2: Every day you're injured, you're depleted, you're exhausted. My hormones
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  Speaker 2: were raging. I wanted to go back to being mommy. Here,
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  Speaker 2: I am trained, I was I was spent. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: about midway through everything was falling apart, including my body,
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  Speaker 2: my brain, my heart, my marriage and I'm kidding my
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  Speaker 2: marriage was okay. It was actually a rock at the time.
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  Speaker 2: But I had to just completely change my point of view.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's why athletes do so well, because
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  Speaker 2: I had to retrain my brain, get in it to
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  Speaker 2: win it, clutch under pressure, and show up to win
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  Speaker 2: instead of dreading every day because it was physically painful
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  Speaker 2: and emotionally exhausting. And Derek and I had a meeting
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  Speaker 2: of the mine and where like, we're here, we might
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  Speaker 2: as well win.
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  Speaker 3: How did it fail to win?
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  Speaker 2: Surreal, unbelievable, a massive accomplishment, which is so silly because
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  Speaker 2: like you're competing for a mirror ball trophy, but I
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  Speaker 2: actually have to tell you it's one of the greatest,
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  Speaker 2: greatest accomplishments of my life, which sounds so crazy, because
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  Speaker 2: it taught me how to show up.
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  Speaker 3: It taught me how to face my fear.
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  Speaker 2: It taught me how to pull it together when I
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  Speaker 2: was crying and injured and I wanted to go home.
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  Speaker 3: It taught me how to not quit. It was an
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  Speaker 3: example for my kids.
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  Speaker 2: It taught me how to do something I never thought
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  Speaker 2: I could do, and one of the greatest, one of
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  Speaker 2: the many great lessons. If you commit to something eight
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  Speaker 2: ten hours a day every day, you could do anything,
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  Speaker 2: Like I could go do stand up comedy and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not funny, Like seriously, you could. After hosting that show, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's what allowed me.
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  Speaker 3: I think the skill set to host. I mean, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: After dancing on that show, it gave me a new
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  Speaker 2: set of tools to go on and host because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I can do anything, and hosting wasn't scary in life,
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  Speaker 2: hosting live televisions fricking scary.
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  Speaker 3: After doing that show, I was like, just bring it.
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  Speaker 1: Bring it.
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  Speaker 3: It was easy. I couldn't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: But that's why athletes do so well because they know
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  Speaker 2: how to pull it together under pressure, right, they know
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  Speaker 2: how to show up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to dive right into moving on.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's dive into menopause, because menopause is having a
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  Speaker 1: moment's having because we're in it?
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  Speaker 2: Or is he just having a moment right are?
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  Speaker 1: We're forty seven, so we're definitely in perry. We're in
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  Speaker 1: perry menopause. But this this space, it's uh, it was
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  Speaker 1: never talked about. I mean, I don't know about your mom,
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  Speaker 1: but my mom never. I had no clue, zero clue,
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't I don't think my mom had a clue. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't allowed to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: I have a really great relationship with my mom. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so fortunate. She's amazing open about everything. When I had
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  Speaker 2: the talk with my mom, let me tell you, it
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  Speaker 2: was a talk like you can't imagine. We're not going
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  Speaker 2: to go there on this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's a whole other episode for us.
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  Speaker 2: But menopause never, I don't even know that that generation.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they knew that they were in it
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  Speaker 2: when they were in it. And my mom's a very
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  Speaker 2: natural woman, like doesn't even take aspirin, antibiotics never, so
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  Speaker 2: never did anything to really treat those hormones. So I
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  Speaker 2: feel like our generation grew up unprepared. No one told
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  Speaker 2: us about weight training. We were sort of raised. Tell
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  Speaker 2: me if you agree in a society that was like,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna feel lucky, you're gonna get bloated, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: be you're gonna be you know, grumpy, You're gonna feel
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  Speaker 2: like crap once a week a month. Like That's how
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  Speaker 2: we grew up. And I'm not raising my daughters like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm on a whole nother dive of this. Some ladies,
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  Speaker 2: this could actually be a really beautiful decade if you
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  Speaker 2: approach it differently.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so what did you experience? How was your menopause
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  Speaker 1: perimenopause experience?
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  Speaker 2: I started HRT before menopause. It funnies me too, funny story. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So it was at the end of my marriage and
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  Speaker 2: we weren't really connected intimately.
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  Speaker 3: We were struggling.
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  Speaker 2: He thought that I was really grumpy and hormonal around
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  Speaker 2: that time of the month. I'm kind of not, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe I was, and I was in denial. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: do some real talk with you, because some women we
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  Speaker 2: don't admit or we're not even aware of what we're
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  Speaker 2: in when we're in it. But I was usually pretty level.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't really like lose my mind around PMS, and
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  Speaker 2: I never really defaulted to use that as an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: But I had low energy. My hips were a little achy,
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  Speaker 2: my knees were like eh, I'm like, h shit, this
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  Speaker 2: is the forties. Is this what it's going to be like?
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  Speaker 2: I was training a lot, zero sex drive. But I
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  Speaker 2: was also not super happy in my marriage. So honestly
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  Speaker 2: a woman, I would I would probably say that was
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  Speaker 2: more emotional than physical. But my ex who were very
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  Speaker 2: good friends right now so I can speak about this openly,
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  Speaker 2: he was like, we need to make some kind of
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  Speaker 2: an adjustment. I'm going to do it. Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to do it? Do you want to meet with this
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  Speaker 2: hormone doctor. I'm like, Okay, it's not gonna say our marriage,
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  Speaker 2: but sure, and so we did, and so I started
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  Speaker 2: HRT and it was such an immediate and quick and
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  Speaker 2: amazing fix for me. But my testosterone wasn't super low.
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  Speaker 2: But I did a responsible panel because I never want
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  Speaker 2: to go beyond what the norm is, whatever the hell
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  Speaker 2: that means in western medicine, by the way, but I
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  Speaker 2: want a cruise at optimal, at the very top of it.
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  Speaker 2: Same way with my thyroid, same way with all my numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Because life, kids, grind, work, we got stuff to do.
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  Speaker 2: We had a lot to do. So I'm like, let
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  Speaker 2: me cruise at the very top of whatever normal is
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  Speaker 2: and then kicking off of you notches. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: I started a testosterone game changer for me for energy, power, libido. Hell, yes,
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  Speaker 2: probably the greatest time of my marriage on the left
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  Speaker 2: during the last year event.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so this was like, this was like the miracle.
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  Speaker 1: But did you had you started estrogen and progesterone or
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  Speaker 1: you went on testosterone first.
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  Speaker 2: I went on testosterone first for power, for memory, for strength,
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  Speaker 2: for everything. So it's really interesting and like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just to bust all the myths people think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just a vanity play, right, and it's just for
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  Speaker 2: power and strength. I think testosterone helps so many things.
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  Speaker 2: I slept better, I didn't have that brain fog. I
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  Speaker 2: was more powerful, I was a little bit leaner. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: I got like superhero power back quick.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting on Oh I'm starting the testosterone.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't started that yet, really, no why, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just curious why every body is so different, but just curious.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you don't need it.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest. So I run these fat loss courses
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  Speaker 1: and I am really using myself as a science experiment.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And so because all of these women, they asked me
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  Speaker 1: all the time, well, well, Hayley, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: about HRT? I said, well, I can tell you what
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  Speaker 1: my experts are saying, but I'm not on it, so
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to give a straight answer. So
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  Speaker 1: I started. I just barely started estrogen in December, and
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  Speaker 1: then I started well, I started progesterone and then I
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  Speaker 1: started estrogen in February, so I'm still like a newbie
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  Speaker 1: on it. And then and I was kind of waiting
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  Speaker 1: to get my blood work done and I don't have
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  Speaker 1: two seconds in a day. You probably don't either. I
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  Speaker 1: can't even get to the dentist, let alone get get
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  Speaker 1: on testosterol.
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  Speaker 2: I feel you.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just how it just hasn't happened for me yet.
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  Speaker 1: But it's this is super reassuring.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's you know, it's so interesting because what works
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  Speaker 2: for me might not work for both of you and
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  Speaker 2: certainly everybody else. So I'm like a big believer, be
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  Speaker 2: a detective, dive deep and try it.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got to listen to your body.
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  Speaker 2: And that body language concept for me isn't how we
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  Speaker 2: carry our bodies.
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  Speaker 3: It's really how we speak to our bodies. What is
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  Speaker 3: going on inside?
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  Speaker 2: And why? So I ask a thousand questions of myself
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  Speaker 2: every day, not a thousand, but I ask ten questions
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  Speaker 2: of myself every day. How am I feeling? Why am
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  Speaker 2: I feeling that way? Am I fatigued? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: How's my sleep cycle? How's my body responding to my
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  Speaker 2: nutritional choices? Am I being mindful? Am I giving myself
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  Speaker 2: a chance to rest? And on most days there no,
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  Speaker 2: there are no no, no, no no, And I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: why what can I tweak? What can I adjust? Can
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  Speaker 2: I give myself grace? How can I do a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better? And when I'm not, can I really roll
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  Speaker 2: into that and then wake up tomorrow and be better.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just a big believer in even with my audience,
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  Speaker 2: I would never tell women do this, I'm doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I would say this is what I'm doing. This is
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  Speaker 2: how I'm feeling. You got to really see what works
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  Speaker 2: for you. So the testosterone amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I have the same experience. It's like it's been life changing.
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  Speaker 2: And then through menopause, I sort of felt like I
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  Speaker 2: eased my way into it with a greater awareness. Then
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  Speaker 2: I introduced estrogen and progesterone for sleep, and so now
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  Speaker 2: I'm on that really good cocktail of the three. And
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  Speaker 2: I do do my blood work regularly. And to just
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  Speaker 2: humanize what you said, I.
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  Speaker 3: Get the call you're due for your blood work, I
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  Speaker 3: know I'll be there. Life is happening.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't always happen, but I struggle with a couple
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  Speaker 2: of different autoimmune challenges.
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  Speaker 3: So I do my.
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  Speaker 2: Blood work every eight weeks like clockwork because of a
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  Speaker 2: bigger issue.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm a pretty good patient.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll have hashimotos and I had thyroid cancer, so
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  Speaker 2: my thyroid. It's really just important for me to do
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: that regular blood work, stay on top of it, be
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: a great patient, have an intimate relationship with my medical team,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: and so I don't fuck around with that at all,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Like I don't stray from that. And then I let
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: my body be my guide and that's a little bit
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: dangerous of a conversation. I let my body be my
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: guide because I'm tuned into my body. I am deeply
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: aware of all the whispers that my body shares with me.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is important because I work with women just
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: like you do. And one of the main patterns that
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I have seen over working with thousands of women over
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years is the disassociation that we
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: have from ourselves. And so this resonated with me. When
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I was watching a bunch of youtubes and different podcasts
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that you had done. When you said be a detective,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I say. Be a scientist.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Be a scientist and use yourself because it does not
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: matter what the research says, or what Brooke says, or
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: what Haley says or what Lars has what works for
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: you because there's not one size fits all for anything.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I agree, No, I agree.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And so my whole philosophy on being that detective is
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: there's so much research out there anyway that's so difficult
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: to interpret, especially layman like we're just not if you're
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: not educated, I happen to.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Geek out and biohacking everything.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I'm a geek and I love information, and I'm a
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: sponge and I'll ask a thousand questions because I want
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to know, and I'll ask a few more, and I'll
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: surround myself with people that are much smarter than I
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: am because I like to learn.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I love to be a student.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: But a lot of it's intimidating, and if you don't
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: have the basis and the foundation and the language, it's
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: hard to really understand it anyway. So I think if
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you deepen that awareness, if you have a greater intimate
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: relationship with yourself, you start to understand why am I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: feeling this way?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: What's going on? How do I respond to that?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And if you're someone like me and you're doing all
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: these great things, I couldn't really sit here and go, okay,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: here's my ten daily rituals and you would say, well,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: how do you feel on this and this?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I feel pretty damn good, but it's also the combination
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of everything. But when I don't feel great, I really
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: start to dissect that, and I start to ask myself
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of questions. What's going on there? Do I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: eat different? Am I not getting enough sleep? Do I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: need more sleep?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Right now? Or are my hormones changing again? How's my mood?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: How am I meeting my body? How am I speaking
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to my body? How am I feeling my body? How
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: am I training my body? Is my body changing? And
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: damn it? It always is?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Right? Always, God, the joy of being a woman, exactly,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: fucking mother Nature.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Sorry, So it's one of your non negotiables, like in
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: your daily life sleep.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I take my sleep very serious.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, we don't mess around. We were in bed by
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: eight pm.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I'm the person that's like count the hours of sleep
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: than I'm But I have a lot of non negotiables.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: And I love that you use that word because I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: very rarely talk about habits and resolutions and all of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: these things.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: It's really lifestyles for me.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: But daily rituals and non negotiables are so much easier
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: for people to process of what is non negotiable.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I have a long list of them, Like I'm.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Sounding a lot now because I want a detox in sweat.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Get in the sauna, people, even if you have to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: go pay for some sauna time. You have two opportunities.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Sweat or you're in period if you want a detox period.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: So you got a detox, right, sleep for sure. Meditation,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: which is a big topic we're going to touch on,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: that not easy. And I've learned how to meditate in
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a way that works for myself, with a lot of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: grace and a lot of flexibility.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: And I imagine.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: A Buddhist would probably argue that my meditation might not
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: really be meditation. My meditation fasting is non negotiable for me,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So I do a pretty long fast every day.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, what is your not every day? Sorry? I had
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: breakfast in bed and all day yesterday.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, So in the female space right now, there's intermitt
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: fasting and then that kind of get fused with the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you know, eating to your circadian rhythm, which is really
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: time restricted eating, which sounds exactly like intermittent fasting, but
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it's usually a little bit. It's like sunrise, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: sun up to sundown, so kind of it's a little bit.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And they are different people that are just skipping breakfast
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: because they're busy. That's not really intermittent fasting. Like it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: very intentional by fueling your body with great fats and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: then also understanding the cellular repair opportunity in a fasting window.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: But it's interesting what you said about circadian rhythm because it.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Is different other non negotiables.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Laughter is medicine.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You said you weren't funny. I've already laughed.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm also just coming back from a retreat where
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: we did like guttural belly laughing. You know, joy, I
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: feel like oxytocin, you know, that love drug, that feel
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: good hormone that we get from connection, from sex, from orgasm,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: from breastfeeding, from love, from touch, from hugging, all of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: these amazing things that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Happen in our body naturally.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: And happiness, laughter, Joy for me, that lights my spirit
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: on fire, that fuels my soul, that gives me energy,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: whether it's with my girlfriends, with my man, by myself,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: here with you, with my kids, something stupid, something funny.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I think that joy non negotiable. Learning how to create joy,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: learning having little moments of happiness even on hard days,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: but just finding things that bring you joy in your life,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: whatever that is. I'm joyful. I want to make my
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: coffee in the morning. I drink a lot of coffee.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: By the way, non negotiable, controversial. I know, I drink
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of macha. I drink a lot of coffee,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: but it's actually like a ritual for me. It's not
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: that I'm addicted to coffee because I can have an
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: espresso and go to bed. I don't, but I could
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: sometimes I might. But my ritual is like smelling my
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: beans and grinding them and frothing my milk and putting
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: in my cinnamon and I like it really hot, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I like it how I want it. But like making
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it a ritual, right, And you know we've all heard
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: that saying that quote. I hate to be cheeky, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: like how we do anything is how we do everything.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So like even that experience that ritual, it's joyful. So
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: it does have to be big things, right, but like moments,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: moments of happiness, kids, kissing my kids, talking my kids,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: talking to my mom. I love my dog. I sweat,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I do yoga. Yoga's non negotiable for me, more of
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a practice than a workout because I don't think yoga
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: really makes you fit. Sorry, yogi's but you know, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: strength train, I do a lot of different things for fitness,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: but yoga's like my me time to get my therapy
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and just do what I need to do.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: It's my meditation.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Well, let's go back to meditation, because Haley and I
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: struggle with weird and.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's so hard for me to say still, I'm like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I've had large list of one million things to.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Do, so I want to know what is your meditation
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: practice or how have you figured it out for yourself?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Meditation is really hard. I'm learning, I'm getting better at it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not great at it. I kind of make it
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: up as I go along, and I've learned how to.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Let's see, so guided meditation for me works like I'm
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: not a person that could sit still and just breathe
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and do nothing. I believe in the doing of not doing.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: By the way, the art of doing nothing is really
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: frickin' hard. I love it, but trying to do that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: for more than two minutes probably impossible for women like
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: us until we decide that it's possible. But I've learned
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: how to accept the fact that my thoughts come in
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and out. They're going to rise and fall, so I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: just let them and I don't beat myself up about it,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: like I'm not meditating. I keep thinking, I've got that list,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: what about that to do? I'll go through my to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: do list. Maybe that's the top of my meditation, not
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that out of the way go through your list. You
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: can't stop thinking because you have eight d and you've
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: got shit to do, and you're probably sitting there going
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I have stuff to do, and I'm sitting here trying
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to mediate but my list. I'm trying to meditate when
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I have so much to do. So I'll go through
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: my list. I'll do whatever I need to do. It
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: might take me two, three, four or five minutes before
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I can really drop into a moment where I can
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: quiet down the noise and tell that voice inside my
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: head to shut the hell up and to just be.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And my meditation might be a journey with music. It
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: might be nature. It might be birds, it might be jungle,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: it might be water. It might be sound therapy. It
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: might be an intentional frequency to help me stop thinking
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and relax. It might be a walk. On some days,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: my meditation might not be with music. It might just
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: be me and myself and mother nature and walking. I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: do whatever I need to do, but I make sure
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that I allow myself time to just breathe and chill
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and be still.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And it's not easy.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: On on my yoga retreat, we meditated twice a day,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: which is a lot, and I meditated with women like
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: us who are grinding business women a lot, going on harder, harder,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to quiet down the noise and the chaos. It was
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: so beautiful to watch people give themselves space and the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: gift of creating, of creating like a space within places
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: at home, whether it's your bedroom and you have one
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: little space that speaks to you, make it beautiful. Put
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a little plant there, Put a little crystal there. Put
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: your favorite little blanket there. Something that you see that
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: actually calls to you, or maybe it's outside on your
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: terrace or your balcony or wherever you live or the park.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: You can take in some vitamin D. The more you
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: do it, the more you want.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: To do it. It feels so good to slow down
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: because when you slow down, something's going to come up inside.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Not your list, but like it needs to come up there,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: just like hey, or that connection, that awareness, that relationship.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: We did this really beautiful workshop. Yeh, super simple. It
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: was a question that I asked everybody during retreat time.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And I had never heard this question posed to me before.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And I went through with one of my girlfriends who's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: just a brilliant influence on my life, and the question
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: was if your heart could speak, what would it say
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: if your heart actually had a voice, what would it say?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: So in dropping into stillness and space and commitment for
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: yourself and quiet, just sitting there, lying there, walking to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: do nothing and to ask yourself that question, that's so beautiful.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It was really emotional, deep into like giving your heart
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of voice to communicate with you. And maybe your heart's saying, hey, hey,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you're not paying attention to me, or I'm doing great,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: thank you, or hey, thanks for taking care of me,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: or you're not listening.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Or i'm really full, or hey what about me?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Or I need more or I feel love or thank
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: you or you never know, like have you ever asked
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: yourself that? No, we'll see it. And the reason why
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: we want to start crying is women is because we're
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: so credit taking care of everybody else, But are we
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: really checking in with ourselves. I would imagine that two
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: of you are amazing friends and mothers. I'm a great friend, Yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I hope, I'm a great mom. I'd have to ask
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: my kids that. But we're so good at taking care
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of everyone in giving and showing up whether we're sick,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: we still show up and drive the kids at school,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: don't we Sorry, I don't know how many men can
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: do that, but we show up. So I'm really slightly
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: obsessed in this concept and practice of working with women and.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Showing them how to shop for themselves.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Did you do this retreat more than once a year?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I know, I was like, the next.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: One, I will invite you to.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, it's such a gift. It's like I wasn't raised
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: that way. My mom never taught me about that. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: never knew about this kind of work. I was just
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: mommying my whole life. I was last on the total
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and I was doing pretty well in that space.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I thought, that's just how it is. I was cruising,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I thought I was doing great. I was really disconnected
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't aware of it, but it was. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: was doing really well in that space. That's how I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: was able to host live television. I was greatly disconnected.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: It's such a gift, and it's not to write a passage,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: and nobody teaches us that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: So I feel like self care is self love. Self
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: love is taking care of ourselves. It's showing up.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: It's time I do them three or four times a year. Yes,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: please come, you have an open invitation. We're doing Costa
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Rica February twenty twenty six.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine it's a year from now.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, sign I'm signing up.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: If we can't figure something out in a year, it
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: could quite possibly be the greatest vacation ever ever. But
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: we do them local. We do him in Arizona, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: do him in Malibu. You could do a day treat
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: for God's sake.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to Costa Rica.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Come to Costa Rica. Costa Rica will change you.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go for years and I never had it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Come with me, Okay, Don and Don.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: One of the things that you also say about self
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: love is how do you talk to the woman behind
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: the scenes. And that's something that has really helped me
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: that I've learned from you.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Thank you. How do you talk to her?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: And I've been saying a lot to myself when I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: going in a spiral of negative thoughts and help snap
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: me out.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And I think that's beautiful cool.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate that I coming from somebody like you
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: who's has a little a little one God, it's such
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a gift in an act of service and a gift
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you're just like showing up, putting yourself last, taking care
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of your child, mommy, doing the best you can. You're
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: probably crushing it. Like looking at you, you're beautiful, you've
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: seem like you've got it all together.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: But I think what really happens is not me today,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: but the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Younger woman me and the younger me, the new mommy
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: me completely lost sight of that woman behind the scenes.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And I say that woman behind the scenes because she
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: gets lost a little bit because you're showing up and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you're doing all these things, and you're holding it together,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and you're running your household, you're running your life, you're
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: guiding your leading. I love that cho term, that chief
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: household officer, especially for those women that are stay at
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: home moms and think that they're not worthy.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, you have the hardest job
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: in the show in the world.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Because when I go to work, I feel like I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: get a break from cho at home. So I have
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: man respect for women who are full time mommying and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: tremendous compassion when they're beating themselves up because they might
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: not feel like that's worthy or that role is. That
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: is the hardest frickin' job ever. And then you start
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: to lose sight of that woman behind the scenes, like
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: who was that woman before you became a wife or
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: a mother or a CEO or whatever you've chosen to do.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And I think that's why I love doing this work
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: with women, because watching that woman come back different because
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: we're older, we evolve, we grow, but watching that woman
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: find herself again, get that mojo back, rediscover, reinvent, reimagine, pivot,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: change whatever wherever you find yourself. It's really interesting. I'm
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: toying whether I should share this with both of you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: or not, but.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I thank you, but why not?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Something really profound and I don't know if it's weird
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: but unexpected happened to me on this retreat because I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: give so much and more guiding and I'm seven days
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: in like ten hours a day, mind body energy, working out, meditating, guiding, yoga, crying, laughing,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: all of it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I had this wild experience.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: In one of my meditations, I was guiding a guide,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I was doing a guided meditation, not important what it
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: was doing like a deep dive into stillness and giving
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: everybody a visual meditation where they could create something beautiful.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: And the theme of this retreat was manifestation, so we
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: were manifesting all kinds of greatness, and I had this
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: wild experience. Maybe you'll relate to it since you asked
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: me the question about the woman behind the scenes. At
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a table, I'm at the head of a table. It's
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: my table. It's like a dinner table. Okay, it's a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: long table. And at this dinner all of me showed up.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: All the different versions of me showed up at this
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: dinner table, meaning like the little girl, the little mean
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: It's like therapy. One on one. You go to therapy,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: you go for ten years, twenty years, whatever.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I've done a lot of therapy.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I don't even do therapy anymore because now I believe
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: in meditation and sound bath and I do my own
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: little hippie things about I get my therapy done in
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: non traditional ways. But having gone through that, you know
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: you can spend years reconnecting with the younger you. Okay,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: we know that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: So at this table, it was like the little me,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the bad me, the great me, the sexy me, the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: slutty me, the married me, the bad ass me, the CEO,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: like all of me. And I was like, whoa, And
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: so I'm having this dinner party table. It was a
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: vision sounds cuckoo, I know, literally allowing all the different
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: parts of my personality and all the different characteristics and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: all the different versions of me to show up, And
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: so we went through. I had to share it obviously
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: because I'm in retreat mode and we're all like raw
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and vulnerable, and as crazy as it sounded, it was
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: an amazing way to relate to all our different personalities,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: all the different versions of ourselves. Like who do you
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: show up? Do you show up as the podcaster today?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Do you show up as the trainer? Do you show
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: up as mom? Do you show up his wife? Are
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you the chef tonight? Are you the great friend? Are
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: are you the therapist? Are you the trainer?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: We have all these different versions. And one of the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: questions that I always ask women during retreat time is
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: who are you? Not like the titles that we've been
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: given from society, because you probably have a whole bio
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: list we all do, but.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Like, really who you are?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: And then if you could imagine the freedom to show
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: up differently every day? So I've been doing this every
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: single day, journaling really hard for me. I would love
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to share this with you. We could do a whole
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: podcast but asking yourself every single day, who are you
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: showing up as today? And it's not like, oh, I'm
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: going to go pretend to be this. It's literally like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: today I'm complete, today, I'm ready. Today, I'm a little
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: bit scared. Today, I'm in my divine energy. Today I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: super feminine and sexy. Today, I'm like today, I'm just
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: showing up kind of uncertain. Today, I'm a badass. Today
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I'm whatever it is. And then it allows you to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: just fucking show up different every single day. It was amazing.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So we did a whole workshop.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I know I have I got a therapy.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I'll do it. Let's do it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break to hear from
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: some of the body Pod sponsors. We'll be right back. Okay,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: So you come back. Is there a time when you
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: come back that you need to integrate back into the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: world after you've had this twelve days in Costa Rica.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: It's really And what we do on our final day
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: is create a purposeful plan because you can drop out
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: of your world as you know it and go do
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: something really deep like that and then have to just
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: come back and your family's waiting for you. Your list
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: just got longer, You're behind on a thousand emails. Your
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: man's waiting for you, and you've changed and you're coming
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: home different, but nobody else has. And when we expect
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that everybody is going to change with us, it's really
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: disappointing and it will really fuck you up. So I
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: have to go through this whole purposeful plan with everybody
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and warn them that they have to sort of ease
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: into it, and I walk the talk and I go
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: through it myself. So my man came to Costa Rica
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to see me the last two days, and I'm already
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: prepared for that, like I'm in my divine energy. I've
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: been with sixteen women. I'm completely vulnerable, available, I'm like
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a goddess. But I am not ready for masculine energy
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to roll in. I'm not even prepared for this. So
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like tiptoe and you have to ease
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: into it. And I think as we evolve and we
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: grow as women and we learn, we really have to
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I think my opinion is that we have to not
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: expect people to.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Be ready for that and to change with us, but
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: we have.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: To demand alignment in our inner circle so that we
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: surround ourselves with people not who are going where we're going,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: but allow us to go where we're going.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: And it's really hard because not everybody's going to show
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: up with you, but we have to be able to say,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of in it right now when I'm going
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: for this, So can you just give me some grace
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: or I'm going to borrow my friends writer, because I've
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: used this line so many times in business and it
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: has saved my ass, and I've used it in my relationship.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody write down this line. If you're listening. The line
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is I'm shoving up differently and here's why. And I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: need you to show up differently for me, because who
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: is going to argue with that? Because the younger me.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And when I say younger me, I'm talking about six
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: months ago me. I remember being like, I'm doing all
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: these things and like nobody's rising to the occasion. I've
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: learned all this and yeah I'm grinding and yeah I'm harder,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and nobody else is like keeping up and like, but
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I thought everybody's just going to show up like me.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: So I had to say I'm showing up differently because
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: of X Y and Z, So I kind of need
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: you to meet me, like I need you to like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: level up if you can with me, or just understand
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that I'm showing up differently and it's hard when you
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: come back from change, you grow, you evolve, we change,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: or we stay the same.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is the message usually received? Well? Does it ever
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: make anyone pause and take stock? Even almost you know.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Not everybody understands, Like I had to learn how to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: accept all of the different personalities in my household because
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I have six children at home right now, six that
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: feels like.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Twenty not twenty.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a man and animal. It's okay, But if
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I was expecting everybody to show up at family dinner
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: because I've made this gorgeous dinner, I want everybody to
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: sit down at five o'clock and be happy.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: We're gonna sit down at the table and connect and
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: we're gonna talk tonight.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And they're like, they're on a completely different story than
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I have just choreographed for my family. And I used
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: to be so disappointed as a younger mom, Like I
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: worked so hard on this meal, and you guys have
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: been gone at school and I've been traveling. We haven't
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: seen each other and how come everybody doesn't want to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: just sit around the table and connect.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: It's like our conference room. We're gonna have a meeting tonight.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: That's mandatory. It was not negotiable.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: No one was interested in my meeting.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: So I've had to like learn and work so hard
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: at this, and I'm still working hard on it. How
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to allow everybody to just show up where they are.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And then I want everybody to allow me to show
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: up where I am. And I think that's you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I'm fifty three. I think that's I've learned to do that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I've learned to accept all the different personalities around me.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: But I've also learned how to define my boundaries and
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: to ask for what I want and what I need,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: or to give everybody a gentle warning, like I can
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: say to my man, now, just a little heads up,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not feeling great. I'm super tired, I'm edgy, I'm hormonal,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not in the mood.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Heads up.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Where before before, I mean, we've all been through that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: You're giggling, but it's like before you're like a tiger,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you're like mama bear. But as soon as I think
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: you learn how to understand all that and then give
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it some verbiage, give it a dialogue. People do great
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: if you ask. People do great if you ask of
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: them what you need. But as women, do we really
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: ask for what we need? Or do we just figure
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: it out and multitask the hell out of it and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: then get frustrated.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: When no one's giving us what we need?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: A loaded, loaded question, But I mean, what do you think?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, here's here's where my mind just went. You
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: mentioned boundaries, and this this is something that I have
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: struggled with my entire life. I did not know boundaries.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't I was just I was the people pleaser,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: you know. I did what everyone asked me to do
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: my whole life up until maybe four years ago. And
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I'm still working on it. I'm not great, but I'm
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: still working on it. And I wanted to ask you
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: about your boundaries and how you've taught because you have three,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you have daughters, how have you taught them to trust
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: themselves and to be firm with boundaries and that it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: okay to have boundaries.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, before you asked them that question. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: want to ask you a question just because I think
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: it's important for listeners.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Were you raised that way? Did your parents?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Were you a pleaser because you were trying to make
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: everything good and be good because it was easier.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I grew up in functional chaos, so I would say yes,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I was the people pleaser because it was the easiest.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: It was the easiest personality to blend in and not
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: have to the rest of my siblings push back and fight,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and I was just like.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Mediating, surviving.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I was a similar child a lot of chaos.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I think that's why I'm able to witness without judgment
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of different personalities and what people bring to
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: bring to the table, because I witnessed so much chaos
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: growing up. But it's it's an amazing skill set to
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: be able to unapologetically create boundaries for yourself because if
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: you do, and if you do it with integrity, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you do it elegantly. Maybe that's not the right word,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: because sometimes mine not so elegant, But if you can
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: do it in a way.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to offend exactly.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's like tone and timing. I like this T and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: T concept. How do you ask for what you need?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: What's the tone of it, the timing of it? But
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: less than even asking for what you need. How are
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: you worthy enough to be able to say these are
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: my boundaries, my non negotiables, and this doesn't work for me,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: or this is the only way that it works for me.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I need you to be different, I need you to
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: do this. I am doing this differently, and I'm setting
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: this boundary because I'm taking care of me in this space.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I try to teach my daughters to use their words,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to live out loud, and to be unapologetic. And it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: really interesting to watch them navigate their life different fathers.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: So two of my children, four of my children have
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: two different fathers, and Scott has two children, So we
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: got a lot of personalities and a lot of different
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: styles that I have to accept because they're different than
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: my own. Right, So I'm only bringing, you know, my
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: mindset to raising and rearing our family.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: But I'm teaching them.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: How to take ownership, take responsibility, be accountable yes, yes,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: but not to apologize for everything that goes wrong when
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: someone's disappointed. And most people think you just say sorry,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: which means you haven't really stood your ground. It's a
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: really hard lesson and it's interesting you ask it because
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm in it, right, now with my daughters where they're like, well,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: it's just easier to just say sorry, I'm like super generous.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Totally get that true choice.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: But the other choice would be able to sort of
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: take ownership in your behavior and maybe apologize for how
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the other person's feeling, but not necessarily how you showed up.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And it's really tricky, and I think creating boundaries. I'll
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: give you an example. As a mom, because I have
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: so many children, I'm always going to miss something always,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: which is heartbreaking as a mother. You don't want to
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: miss that play, don't want to miss that track me.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that first game. And if
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I can organize my life when I'm able to with
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: work in the industry, sometimes I have flexibility. Other times
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I'm booked on the job. It's non negotiable. I don't
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: have a choice, and so I'm often torn. Right, I'm
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: often torn, and I have that work life mommy guilt. Okay,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I've learned how to not be guilty, but it sucks
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: when you have to miss something aportment important. So what
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I do to navigate it now that I didn't do
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in my thirties and forties because I didn't know how
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I was doing the best I can and beating myself
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: up for what I couldn't do. Now I just say,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm doing the best I can, and everything in your
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: life is really important to me, and I'm going to
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: schedule every single track me in, every single game and
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: every single event that I could be at. But I
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: have to do these things so that we have this life.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: So you get to do that because I'm doing this
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and it really hurts me and I really want to
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: be there, but I need you to give me some grace.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: And I really want to be there.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I really really want to be there, and I can't
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: be there at that It's like it's really really hard.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: When I was in Costa Rica, my son had his
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: first track meet and I scheduled my retreat a year ago,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: and trust me, I was like bleeding inside. My arm
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: was breaking because it's so important to him and he's
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: worked so hard and he's like, Mom, how can you
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: miss my first track meet? You know, you want to
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: like cry, and then you feel like you're failing and
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: you feel like what the hell? And I said, well,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: because I booked this retreat a year ago before you
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: were running track, because last year you were playing football.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't And this is how the grown up
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: me talks. It wasn't my intention, and I really want
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to be there, and I'm going to schedule all your
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: track meets and try.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: To work around it. And I'm really sorry.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: And I was so upset inside and he got it,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I need you to support me
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: in this, just like I want to support you.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: And it's hard, but it's that dialogue. But vocalizing you
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: are powerful.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: I put for them and freeing for you as a
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: woman with everything, with life, with love, with work.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Think of how much we hold inside as women, and
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: then we build resentment we don't communicate. So bringing it
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: back to menopause, to our body, to that detective to awareness.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: What if we're not dialoguing with our own body, what
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: if we're not having that relationship. What if we don't
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: have boundaries for our own Boddy like sleep, you ask
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: me what's non negotiable? First thing that came up? What
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: if I'm so tired and I'm grinding. There's gonna be
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: times seasons where we're grinding. Too many opportunities to turn down,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: too much travel, So you got to fuel your body, eat.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Better, try to. But we're human.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I would say, when possible, I try to drop into
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I need to sleep. When I'm sleepy, that means get
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: off the phone, you're not scrolling, limit the screen time,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: create a rest nest, black it out, light that candle,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: get your sense memory, t get into an aps and
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: salt bath. I have to put a do not disturb
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: on my door sometimes for my children. I'm like, I
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: need ten minutes, guys, But in ten minutes I can
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: get everything done.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Then I need to ten minutes. I'll take it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even think about knocking on this door. That's
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: my boundary unless you're bleeding or there's an emergency.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: If you're not dying.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: If you see they do not disturb, you do not
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: come in. And that goes for other things too.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: But I want to know what the rest nest is.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: You put your phone to bed.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I have so much work to do at all times,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and because I run a digital business, it would never end.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: So I shut down at night, so I put my
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: phone on do not disturb. My children crucify me all
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: the time because sometimes I forget and the phone is
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: on do not disturb. And again I'm like, I'm doing
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the best, I can stop calling so much.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And I'm just kidding.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: They override my do not disturb now because we fight
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: about that. But I do shut my phone down at
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: night so that I can stop working at night by choice.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: If I have to do something or I have a deadline,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I work that out with myself, but I make myself
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: shut down so that I can rest and recover and
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: then I can accomplish more during the day.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, so have to do it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your digital business
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: because you have a fitness app, and is that the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: digital business you're talking about or yeah, maybe there's multiple ones.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: That I've met.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, so what made you well, First of all, let's
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: talk about your fitness and what made you want to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: do that. I mean, it seems natural for me.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: It's such a it's such a big business right now
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: in oversaturated market, and I feel like there's an app
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: for everything, right but.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's been eight years now. I can't believe it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: At a time when I was traveling, I was in
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Europe and I love to work out, and people don't
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: really go to the gym as much as they do here.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: They're very much nature mobile. It's just different made nature mobility.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You get what you can, or you go outside and
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: do something, do something probably better than going to a
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: gym circuit. So I found myself at a villa. I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: was with my children. I took a cushion off of
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the pool chair. I'm like, I'm gonna get my workout
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to use this. I'm gonna use a chair,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use steps. We were on a boat
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: for a little while. I'm gonna work out of the
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: bow of the boat. Call me crazy, I'm going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: do what I need to do. And so I was
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: creating some content on social media and I'm like, I'm
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: just going to share this, and I got a great response,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: and I was like, Wow, what if I can teach
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: people how to work out anywhere, anytime, busy people like me,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and show them how to how to get it done
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: without all the uses in a short amount of time,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to do it efficiently, compound moves the kind that we
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: all do now, which is a new thing, and change
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: their body and care for their body and just carve
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: out a moment of time that's going to create energy.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: That's how it started.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And then I came home and I was actually going
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: through my divorce. That was my gentle therapy. All I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: did was create content, and I had so much energy
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: and my adrenaline was off the charts. But I just
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: created and created and created content and built a library
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: and then finally launched the app. And I love it
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: because I connect with women. I connect with women. We
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: do a weekly meeting. It holds me accountable. It's really
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: like our little tool guide for each other. I love
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to teach, I love to connect. It really gives me
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: great purpose in the space that I'm in in fitness
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: because people are changing, and people have a safe space
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: and they can do it at home. They can get
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: their mojo back, they can build their confidence, they can
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: start small, they can do something, they can dow impact.
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  Speaker 2: They can use weights or no weights. They can create
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: a space at home that really just speaks to them
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: and care for themselves instead of getting into a car
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and driving and spending a fortune. I do. You know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: not everybody can afford the type of work that we
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: do one on one, But I think there's so much
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: content out there on YouTube, there's so much free content,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: there's so many apps out there.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: You just got to find something that you really respond to, and.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: The live streaming possibility is super fun because you can
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: be with me in my live stream studio, in my
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: basement or in my kitchen working out like we're two
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: girlfriends in a studio.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: It's really weird.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: It was weird at first, but the live streaming is
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: a great way to connect with people.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, I've got to start well. First of all, the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: live streaming so is that all of your programs? Are
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: they all you? Are they following you through the whole program?
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: They're following me through the whole program. I do a
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: live stream every week where I do a live class
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the way I teach classes because I love to. But
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I'll light it up for a live stream so you
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: could join in real time and you can also replay
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: it if your life schedule doesn't allow. But I'll forgive
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: an example. I do a meeting every Monday at eight
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: thirty in the morning for free. I give my time
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: for free every single Monday for everyone that's a subscriber.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And it's actually a zoom meeting. So you've got hundreds
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: of women connecting on a zoom not talking because we
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: have to mute them. You know how crazy that would
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: be to get everybody chatting on a zoom I'm talking.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: They're using the chat box or they'll unmute themselves. But
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: we talk about what's working, what's not, what we like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: what we want more of. They take ownership in the app.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: What do you want me to choreograph this week? How's
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: it going, what are you struggling with? How do you feel?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: And it's this amazing sharing from women and every single
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: woman is helping another woman who's going through the same thing.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: So I love that power of community for me, that
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: makes me want to do more of this type of work.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: It's really powerful, really powerful.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: So what does your if we were to look at
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a week of your fitness. We know you do yoga,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: we know you have your app, but what do you do?
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Do you do like X amount of strength they x
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: amount of cardio? What does your week look like?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: My cardios really changed over the last few years. It's
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: interesting because I have more of a rhythm and a flow.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I sweat and I do a lot of
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: deep core heat work like that hourglass figure, corset core,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: like deep pelvic like strength training, core work. So I'm
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: doing this corset core series that I really believe in
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: that I started in menopause when belly fat started showing
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: up for no reason. And I'm super fit, So I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: say that delicately because I'll get CRUs stuff. I'm like, oh,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I bellie fat.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: But we all do the visceral past.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Sorry, fact everybody.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: So I don't care how much you weigh or what
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: you're going through one day. Yeah damn it. You eat
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: the same, you train the same, your body starts changing,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, what the F. So I'm going to
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: get down to business and face this and start training
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: differently and changing differently with my body. So my cardio now,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I'll do some cardio blasts that could really just be
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, but it's more of the flow
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: and the rhythm. I'll strength train once a week only
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: because I need to maintain my muscle mass. And I'm
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: not afraid to wait, like every woman's afraid to waight
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: train because I think they're going to be muscular. And
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: there's all these weird myths. And I promise you, if
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: we would have been taught to weight train before we
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: got into menopause, it would have been a whole lot easier, lean, muscle,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: bone health, the whole nine yards I don't have to
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: tell you, but.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Big up daughters are going to be badasses.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like they got you. We got the message to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: eat very little and through cardioc which is crazy.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So I eat more now than I've ever me too
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: ate in my life. I eat twice amount of protein
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: than I've ever had in my life. I'm smaller, leaner, stronger,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: and I lift weights now, which I never would have
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: done before.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: So I'll do yoga.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I'll try to do a yoga class a week if
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I can, because I love to be a student, because
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: it makes me a better teacher. I don't always get
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: that privilege. I'll heat up my room, I'll put on
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: some red light therapy in there. I'll bite girlfriends over.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I'll live stream it. Hopefully you're going to come. We laugh,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: we sweat, we kick our ass. We worked the burn
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: we were, We work past the burn. It's like forty
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: five minutes of therapy for me of everything I need,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: and then I feel one hundred times better than when
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I started. The other side of that burn, the other
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: side of that push, the other side of that excuse,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: the other side of that.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I don't have time.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Such bs, you don't have time not to work out.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I tell them everybody that you do not have time
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: not to work not work out.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I do it for my spine. I do it for
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: my bones, I do it for my brain, do it
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: for my butt. I really do it for my overall
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: well being. More than the body. Yeah, more than the body.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I could teach people how to get into bikini shape,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Like have I really done my job? But what if
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I show you how to change your mindset? What if
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I show you how to feel better? The world of fitness.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: It's like such a big conversation. But really, my workout,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: so my whole fitness routine is so much more than
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: just the body.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: It's my mindset.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: It creates energy, dopemine, adrenaline, oxytocin.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: It makes me feel good. It's really my therapy.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: And like forty five minutes, I can get everything done,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: you know, and build a little booty and say all
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the body. But it's mindset for me, like I gotta
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: do it. I don't have time not to do it.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I do not have time to not work out.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Speaking of body, how has sex evolved for you over
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: the years and is it better now in your fifties?
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: God, sex is so much better in the fifties.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is good news. Yes, how has evolved? How
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: is sexy?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, God, I'm trying to think of what would
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: be better having sex with the twenty year old me
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: or the fifty year old It has gotten so much better, deeper,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: more connected, more emotional, more spiritual, Like all all of
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: me shows up now. Honestly, that's really what it is.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I'm bringing all of me to that experience. I mean
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Lucky Scott because he's getting a much better version of me. Sorry,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: David Garth's not even in this equation. But I'm joking.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know how getting in trouble.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: But I'm not joking. Yeah, because we learn about our body,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you know, And I think as soon as we can
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: put a dialogue to that and how you show up
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: in that space, it's just complete and I how to
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: ask for what I want and how to get what
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I need, a more complete experience. I mean to be continued,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: because I'm just going to scratch the surface.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, I can't believe we have to end.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: I have so many follow up questions.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, please, I would love that because we could talk
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: for hours obviously, this is what happens when three women
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: get together with an open mind and heart.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: I love this conversation. Encore, please y yes, thank you
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: so much.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: We look forward to the We look forward to the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: part too. Thanks for listening.
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