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The Will Retherford Show: NFL, MLB & Fever (July 24, 2025, Podcast 335.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the central Indian sports report podcast number three hundred and thirty five point one the will run the first show on this week's will run the first show will and I preview in a val training camps talk about the controversial all star game ending and talk a little second half of the season and MVP race and a little bit of
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[SPEAKER_01]: fever and take one point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report, with your host, Greg Mendel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everybody to the Will Rutherford Show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am with said Will Rutherford on Riverside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here to talk some sports in room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a lot to talk about despite kind of being the off season for most sports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have some fever, some major league baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to start today with some NFL will welcome what's on your mind heading into NFL training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With as you said yesterday on the culture report,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game is a week from today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I feel that if you're a football fan, you've waited two hundred days for this moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you've waited since the middle of February to be here sitting here talking about NFL football when it actually matters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Rossers are constructed and
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[SPEAKER_02]: your rookies are showing up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know TAs and rookie mini camps and this sort, but this is when it actually matters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is when the pavement meets the road and it's time to actually digest NFL football and understands where the teams are going to be kind of what the positional battles look like for each organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Teams expectations as far as where they view themselves and more so you're learning about, you know, every year a different, a team's got a different identity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you might have, you've got
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[SPEAKER_02]: you got fifty three in a locker room and it changes I mean you're going to have turnover if you sixty percent retention rate on your roster it's considered like we're bringing the whole team back so I mean you have new identity you have new culture you have new coaches and it's just this is the most important time of the year I think to establish an identity and we as the media get to sit here and talk about what it all means and I think that
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[SPEAKER_02]: For football fans, it's super exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of the best days of the year behind spring training, first day spring training.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always, yeah, a lot of time would time to be alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we'll big question going into training camp and the preseason coming up in just a couple of days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What franchises, what fan bases should be thinking superable?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think that the bills should be thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Eagles should be thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really think the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl, but their fans will be thinking it because they've done so much that it would be silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have Patrick Mom's and Andy Reed, you gotta shut.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Ravens should be thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And outside of that, I don't know if I feel super confident about anybody else thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I anymore think high hopes, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I and fans should be thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Packers fans should be thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think honestly of all of the teams in that division that I think should be probably thinking super world most would actually be the Vikings because I think that they have perhaps the best team all together in that division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that to me, this is one of those we're going to sit in kind of tier teams now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the teams I gave probably a tier above the other Packers, the Lions and the Vikings as far as
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[SPEAKER_02]: expectation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're still not even talking about a team that has gone to, I mean, the lines went to the NFC championship two years ago, but neither one of those teams got past the vision of the past team in the NFL last year until their entire team got injured.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The commanders excuse me, Tim pushups, Washington should be, I think, thinking super bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I think it's maybe a little far fetch, but they should be thinking about it for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we're going to start getting two teams, Rams, any of those cardinals, I think the Chargers and Chargers Broncos, I really have an argument to be made with thinking Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cardinals, not yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They even make the playoffs last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now we're not talking Super Bowl yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's about the end of the list.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's about the end of the list that should really even have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say that on the tier, like, you know, the first five should really be thinking like absolutely Super Bowl or bust.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the bottom five should be content if we get to a championship game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But obviously anything can happen and you hope that you make it to the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that there is sort of a one A, one B as far as the Super Bowl conversation per se.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What about the Bengals?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that they have way too much money tied up and T Higgins near March.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have Joe Burrow and they have T Higgins and they have Jamar Chase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't that give you a chance to be good if everyone else develops around them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Joe Burrow obviously gives gives you a chance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think my thing with him is he's going to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we have this conversation with players all the time about, you know, that they're an injury risk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're injury prone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he kind of fighting flies under the radar in that conversation because he's been so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He really is a player that has a huge injury risk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been injured a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So whether that's his fault, whether that's the bingles fault for not protecting him, I still think that there's something to be said with the fact that he just hasn't
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he missed almost half a year last year with the wrist and thumb issue and I don't think they're Super Bowl team, especially not in their division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll probably be the third team in the division if I had to guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the second, I think them in the Steelers have an argument.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Ravens will win the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to make a Super Bowl prediction until after the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, it seems like the Ravens year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess my question you would be why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why do you think this is the Ravensier?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're loaded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a lot of good young players that were contributing last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of reloaded a couple of years ago with their roster and it feels like it might be at a point where it's good enough to support what is clearly the best offensive backfield in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe not clearly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buffaloes is awfully good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's either Buffalo or Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, I agree with you, Kansas City, the roster can't withstand Travis Kelsey getting old, which is clearly happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last year he was not himself and it just hasn't been good enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As I said earlier, you got Patrick Mahomes, you've got Andy Reed, you got a shot, but I think Baltimore and Buffalo as long as those two guys stay healthy are the clear favorites in the antsy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the chiefs are there by purely, it would be ignorant not to mention them, but I definitely question their ability to continue to be the dynasty that they were, I mean, really Buffalo is the better team last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they were, they should, the best team, but not represent the AFC in the Super Bowl last year because Buffalo is the best team during this chiefs run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It has, and I mean, you know, that's obviously something that, you know, the chiefs find a way to win games, but they were not the best team and best team in the conference last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were probably the third best team in the conference, and they found a way to do it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the NFC, well, I just have a feeling it's all coming together for Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, they were a team I was high on last year for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can definitely there are twenty twenty sixteen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they I have less answers about Jordan love than I feel like I had last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This year was kind of last year was rocky form kind of up and down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Games you look all world games you look like you wouldn't start your high school team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those where they figure it out will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the thing, I fear the most about them is just they lack a number one receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they got a lot of good ones, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have three pretty good receivers for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't think they'll win the division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely in question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could definitely be the worst in the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, all four of those teams could be the worst team in the division, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that you have an argument like you said, any team in that division could be the winner, any team in that division really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Chicago is winning the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but any team could be the worst team in the division for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think they have a tougher path.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Vikings are probably right now as far as bringing everything back together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If JJ McCarthy's good like that Vikings team will, I mean, there's no reason their record can't be similar to how it was last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they can be a
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[SPEAKER_02]: fourteen and three of fifteen and two type team with their defense and I mean if you just get even KFC could probably scheme my dad into being a good NFL quarterback somehow so I I think that JJ if he's good at KFC will figure it out for though they'll play it right where he he's got probably the best weapon core in the league
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it looks really good for, I don't know, the Lions, once again, the other team might have the best weapon core in the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just, I think that the NFC runs through the North really, I still think the Eagles are, something's gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then the implosions just pending.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a win and wear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's hard to imagine a team being better than they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have traded AJ Brown in the off season this week because I think of of all of the players on the team he is the ticking time bomb and I think that I've got a really good return.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Devante Smith is the better wide receiver on that team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would let him have the opportunity to be the number one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that the NFC runs the North though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, which franchise as well should be thinking about Kate club nick or archmaning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The jets have a really good chance of being in that conversation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The giants moved up for Jackson Dart, but I think there's a really good chance that they're staring down a potential top five pick again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Saints really need to be thinking about one of those two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think those are about the only, the few teams that should really be thinking about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think everybody else will be competent enough that I think one of those three teams, the Dolphins probably has another team that should probably be thinking about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The producer says he says.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope it's a good chance that they are one of the ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hope so silly thing to have when it comes to the Dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to be an average team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be a team in the hunt for a playoff spot, but it could be, it could happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they won't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They traded their their best offense of player last year and their best defense of player last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not trade their best offense of player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's their best offense player than?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyre Hill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw Johnny Smith be the real game changer for that team last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're out of your mind if you don't think Tyry Kill is the best offensive player in Miami, Dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the, he's the better career player, but I'm talking last year last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Last year, John who Smith, what you're out of your mind will fall in fear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the one he had been previously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was still one of the best three wide receivers in the NFL last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's an absolute head case.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's never, he's never been a head case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the, on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's never caused an issue in a locker room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what got into you, but Tyre kills a top five weapon in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a real good number two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We stare down that, but where is it at?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's all of the, it's the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, he's like, twenty seven years old now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is he proven in the NFL?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's had one really good season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That team comes down to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If two is healthy, they can be good, but two is not going to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a complete injury risk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it just, to go ahead and cancel the little weather for Joe from tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not worried about it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you folks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a wrap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, and then you've got divine a chain who is a he's a great fantasy quarterback, because he's a checkdown merchant for running back, but I mean, if you are have a play in between the tackles, he's about as useless as tits on a borehole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he has an outside the tackles runner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have no bruiser at
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[SPEAKER_02]: their offensive line sucks like it's just it's just a whole shit show in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for Miami fans because they deserve better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got just a false prophet into his entire career there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just a career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's time to reset reevaluate and I hope they need to hope they get archmaning because that would be the only thing that could turn them around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Producer Susie is not completely sold on to a for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But talk about Tyre Killbad and she might come through the screen and strangle you on Riverside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I understand it clearly his formula for football doesn't win playoff games in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miami he says after he was a Super Bowl hero in Miami in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not been because of Tyre Kille.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is for certainly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyre Kille is allowed to be in you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have made an argument two years ago, he's the MVP of the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he should, I'm not, I will, I will not argue that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying that, you know, you get Tyreke's on, you know, he gets on Twitter, he gets on, you know, in the media and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Any bitches about the fact, he's like, oh, well, we just, I want to go somewhere I can win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, well, Tyreke, you force your way out of Kansas City.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyreke, you could be a leader and expect a different outcome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could pressure people to be better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he did everything he could two years ago, and it's still worth enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not saying there are any differences.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And right now, I don't see him being the solution to them being good again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He could have two thousand receiving yards and they wouldn't make the playoffs next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that is completely like it could absolutely happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that roster is better than you think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's seven and ten to ten and seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we spent way too much time on the golf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of which, they opened with the Colt who's going to win that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the cults will lose it because they just lose week one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they could play, they could play Bishop Chetard week one and they'd get beat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have no faith the cults ever winning a week one game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the NFL did it's best to try to help the cults in that street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of not a lot of teams expected to be worse than the dolphins, but I think they're going to be better than most people think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on to some baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your thoughts on the home run Derby to determine the all-star game in hindsight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course you and I were watching it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was incredible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is it's musty TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I'd go as far to say that like extra ratings, we may be play the tenth, maybe the eleventh, and then after the eleventh ending, I think we just do it for the regular season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've already got the the bullshit commissioners runner on second and extra inning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're already taking away from the purity that is baseball at in the home run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The home run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably rather have the home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard the most runner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely love love love love what they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It made a moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was entertaining.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That can't be the only time in the year we get that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's how that is how strongly I feel about it is like the all-star game cannot be the only time in the year that that is what we get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk some actual baseball that actually matters because that indicated to me that they all start game no longer matters to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not playing for, they're not playing for, you know, who gets home feeling of age and the, the, the, uh, we'll see where there's work going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No interest in who won that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I just thought the moment was fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would like to see it more like I thought the moment was fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't care about the, you know, who wasn't there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The moment was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've been saying all year, the brewers are inevitable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it looks that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I need to take a victory lap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've been the, maybe the only person in sports media beating on this drum, the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not just the world of street either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They swept the Dodgers twice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just fly out a good baseball team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I, you watch them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You watch them play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're, they have timely hitting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have great defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're good base running.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They take an extra base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a good bullpin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have good start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're just good all the way around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would just say,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that you know, we're not on a huge national, you know, talking.
19:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Will Reatherford has been the Milwaukee Brewers.
19:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Only, like, true through this entire season.
19:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would go as far to say that I said it.
19:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It's spring training.
19:21
[SPEAKER_02]: The brother was in front of everyone.
19:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Will win the NL Central, even when the Cubs had a six game lead on, ten game lead on them.
19:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I said the just way.
19:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And here we are.
19:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we are.
19:32
[SPEAKER_02]: That's record baseball.
19:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, fifteen and twenty five or something like that.
19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And here they are best record baseball.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: The other team near the best record baseball is the Toronto Blue Jays and wasn't for the Brewers.
19:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's be who everybody's talking about.
19:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I said in I think late May, I said the Yankees are going to have a tin game lead by the All Star Break.
19:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Yankees just completely just awful.
20:00
[SPEAKER_02]: They've played horrible.
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they've been better than horrible.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd been better lately until the all-star break.
20:09
[SPEAKER_02]: When I find so funnier, the Yankees have a, have a plus one tin run differential.
20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: The Blue J's plus twenty eight.
20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty seven is twenty seven.
20:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, crazy.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus twenty eight, but it's all been the last month.
20:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think they had the pitching wheel.
20:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't need it.
20:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought their offense was always good.
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: But Alejandro Kirk has been exceptional boba shit has rebounded, which I also talked about at the beginning of the year was going to happen.
20:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a two ninety to three hundred hit or his entire career last year is injury.
20:43
[SPEAKER_02]: They deserve they weren't conversation.
20:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I still, I'm not sold there pitching in the playoffs.
20:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's great.
20:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great organization to have in the playoffs because the fan base because of.
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
20:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I feel like it would be blasphemy to say they're not the best team in the East, but right now, I mean, the blue days are playing really well.
21:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, the Yankees might be a wildguard team.
21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even think it could be a conversation and how it is.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: On the MLB report, there was a debate on who's the AL MVP who you got.
21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let me guess.
21:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Paul said it's Aaron Judd, and Cody made an argument for Cowrowly.
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course it's those two.
21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Jose Ramirez is seventy-five to one.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He has the third best odds.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess the conversation needs to be the debate needs to be, are we talking the best, or are we talking the most valuable?
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: To me the most valuable player in the American League is Torx School or Jose or Mirus.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: The two best seasons that we're talking about are Judge and Raleigh.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm going to say and why it should be air judge without question.
21:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Rallion and Judge are almost identical in RBI and home run numbers.
22:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And Aaron Judge is hitting eighty points better than Cal Ralli.
22:06
[SPEAKER_02]: What Cal Ralli is doing is awesome for a catcher.
22:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of years he is the MVP front runner.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Judd mentioned another level.
22:17
[SPEAKER_02]: He's hitting with all the power.
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: He's driving in the runs.
22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: He's on base more and he's doing it with an eighty point higher batting average.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Any conversation outside of that argument.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That should be the end of discussion.
22:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there should not even be a discussion after those points are are stated and anything beyond madness just now we're just hero watching and we want we feel a connection to calorie and we want him to we're willing him to win it, but it's air judge.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Orally is a better defensive player.
22:46
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt about that.
22:47
[SPEAKER_01]: How much better defensively and does that change the equation at all?
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: judge is a plus defender.
22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel at what point I don't give a shit about how good defensively a player is for the MVP.
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It should matter, but nobody gives it.
23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Judges, it's not like judges.
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Judges a good is a plus defender in the outfield.
23:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not if he was a minus five six defensive run save, you know, outfield or I'd say, okay, Rally is up.
23:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He's involved in every pitch.
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He's calling.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just Aaron judge.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Aaron judge.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Aaron judges and a catcher.
23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's impossible to say, well, Cal Rally would be a better catcher than Aaron judges.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, shit.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what I'm saying.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think catcher matters in the defensive scheme way more than an outfielder does.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're talking about more that most valuable, that has to be taking into the question, I still like Aaron judge.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see your point with that being said, judge is a good defender.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He is, he's good everywhere.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, if Aaron judge wanted to steal twenty bases this year, Aaron judge could steal twenty bases.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just he is the better, he's the better baseball player.
24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He's more valuable.
24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If you remove judge from the Yankees, I don't even know where they're at.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, he's been running for sure, especially after all.
24:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not.
24:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying that that mayor is pitching staff was their floor was just egregiously high.
24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're pitching staff just that good.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It really just came down to if they're offence was competent.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So if one of them vision does that not change the the equation as well.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe in the eyes of others, to me, it doesn't really move the needle.
24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners won the division.
24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Yankees are the number one wild card team with the second best record in the American League or third best record in the American League.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really think it matters.
24:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I air touches the MVP.
24:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I just, there's a million ways we could, we could talk about this, but every way we, we discuss it, it comes back to judge.
25:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And anything beyond that is, we, we want to happen, not that it, it will happen.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the UMBA second half, I guess you can say, got underway on Tuesday night with a fever loss, again, without Caitlin Clark.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel in about her sitting out?
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you fine with it, even if it costs him a playoff spot?
25:30
[SPEAKER_02]: No, if a cost of a playoff spot, no, I'm not okay with it.
25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter what seed they are, I think in the playoff, obviously they are tougher matchups, but if Caitlin's playing in a series, I think it with this fever iteration of the fever, I think they can beat anybody in the league.
25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They've proven that.
25:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they can hang and play with anyone, but it cannot come at the cost of a playoff spot to me.
25:53
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be
25:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say the same thing for for any team that that I'm a fan of or just any team in general.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if, you know, if it's like one of those where are you sacrificing the Pacers having no chance of winning game seven, then put a maybe injured Tyreys haliburton on the floor.
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're putting Tyreys on the floor, a hundred out of a hundred times.
26:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And if Caitlin has to she's got to play.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, isn't unfortunate, sure, but she's going to have a long offseason to heal.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds tough.
26:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I know as an athlete, it's not fair her pain tolerance and to push her into that direction, but at the fact of the matter is, this team needs her to win right now.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And that growing heal in two months wants to season over.
26:38
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a professional athlete first, and it's not like this injury is one that we're going to sit and talk about.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: two years from now and be like, well, this is what started all of the issues.
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's a growing injury.
26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: She probably wasn't completely healthy coming back the first time.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: She's probably not going to be completely healthy with it until the season's over until she actually gets time to get off her feet and just completely rest.
26:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would be pushing in any way possible to get her back on the floor.
27:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what she, well, that's what the team means as she needs.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, the fever are a half game ahead of Washington, which is in the final playoff spot.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And they have any one game ahead of Golden State, which is an expansion team, a half game out of the playoffs.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're probably even better than those teams without Caitlin, because they've been playing pretty well.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And they played well on Tuesday night, despite the loss, New York's is the best team in the league, I think.
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're really good.
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're just really good.
27:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no.
27:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Two things can be, and I think that if you can limp into the playoffs without Caitlin, but I think the second that you're a game out of a playoff spot, like Caitlin's got to come back.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: This this team cannot with all the hype cannot miss the playoffs this year with her being out.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got to be in the playoffs.
27:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise you're just
27:59
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just setting yourself up for just constant, battering the entire offseason about your handling of it and the fact that you were so hyped and then you failed deliver on that promise.
28:10
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'll say is the supporting castings to play better in her absence.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Playing well, but they've got to take it up to another watch when you're missed the best player or the second best player in league.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: When she's gone, you've got to fill that void.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much to Will.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: for joining the Central Indian sports report, once again, and for filling in as our Colts guy this week.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We will find a regular time and format for Will, whether it's still called the Will, rather for show or something else.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll find something, or both creative.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to talk him into doing a little something pretty much every day.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a lot going on, but I'd love to hear from him every day.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: at least every weekday.
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