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3 Guys Before The Game - Conference Armageddon (Episode 476) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  I may have. I may have mistitled the episode, may have mistitled it.
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  I guess I could have changed this too late now though, Well,
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  anywhere we're going with episode four seven six Conference Armageddon, Conference Armageddon. Did
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  you put a version number on that? I'm sure we've used that, may
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  have, I don't know. Starring Bruce Willis. But here's why it's the
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  wrong name. It shouldn't be Armageddon. Armageddon obviously is biblical talk about it
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  in a revelation, but basically the definition of it is the last and completely
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  lead destructive battle. Oh yeah, that's not that. We're that. This
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  is this is what's up, bellboy, and we got over there. This
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  is three Guys before the Game. Thank you so very much for being with
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  us. We're gonna jump into maybe not the Conference Armageddon, but obviously one
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  massive, one massive volcanic eruption, that's what it is. We're gonna get
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  Com. And how about our folks, at Gomart. They have given us
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  a they've given us an honor. Really, yeah, they've bestowed upon us
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  an honor you know, like in that or that those days of medieval things
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  where they put the sword on your shoulder night and knighthood and night you.
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  Yeah, Gomart knighted us. Yeah. Why because they're giving us the designation
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  to get involved with a Mountaineer Man Trip. That's the contest that they have
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  where each game they pick a couple of winners and those winners get to walk
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  with the team from the hospital side there into the stadium. Mountaineer Man Trip.
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  It's a nod to the state's proud coal industry and it starts two hours
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  twenty minutes before kickoff. Gomart offering our fans and there's a chance to be
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  a true part of this experience along with getting tickets to the game and an
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  opportunity to be on the field sideline. You don't get to go on the
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  is go to the Gomart app or go to their website at gomart dot com
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  and you can you can be on the sideline during the game. I didn't
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  say that oh, normally pre game, Brad. You've been in the business
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  for a while, haven't you. Isn't the h You bring them out onto
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  the you let them see warm ups, and then there's try and move off,
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  and you try and move off once the introductions are done. Maybe it's
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  I would always try and go a series or so. Oh, you give
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  him a series, give mus push it for a series, and then try
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  and exit out of there. Yeah, you know it can be dangerous on
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  the sidelines for sure. Hell yeah, some on this set. No.
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  Yeah, I was over at practice last Were you with me last week?
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  When we were facing and the kid came over towards I'm the one that said,
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  so we're standing next to each other. We're standing next to each other.
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  I don't. I've been there a bunch. I don't know. I'm
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  a standing up. I don't want I guess what. You're not the only
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  guy I've stood next to a practice. You're not the only guy I've stood
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  next to. And I remember the interaction because I said it. I mean,
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  you think you're the only person that talks to people at these practices?
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  Oh? Why does he do that? He thinks everybody else remembers every interaction
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  with him, but he doesn't remember. I'll tell the story. Okay,
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  So we're over there, we're on the sidelines. Player comes our wave.
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  Ball was coming our way. Tony and I veterans of the practice scene,
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  though happened to be watching the play develop coming at us. Still, it's
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  a lot of athleticism between the two of us. We were able to nimbly
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  get out of the way and avoid the contact. And I said to him,
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  see, if we were Kerchival, we would have been looking at the
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  screen right there and we would have been lupect. What happened last year was
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  respect. It was so traumatic for Sam James he left, left the school
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  had another year. You do forget the size and speed at which the game
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  is being played until you're standing there. In all serious if you're on the
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  sideline, you win the gomart Man trip, even if it's in pregame,
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  head on a swivel, basically face the field. Yes, yeah, I
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  think it was Devin Cards staying gates. I think it was. Was it?
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  I thought it was a lot of tight ends, but regardless it was,
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  it was a big old cow. Did did you go? Did you
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  just back pedal or did you go lateral? Laterally we split, he split
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  us went one way. You just go sideways is the key. Yeah,
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  sideways is the key, because if you go back, you still might they
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  still might make contact with you. We thought about you at practice him.
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  They was the point of the story. I gotta go. I gotta keep
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  missing things. Yeah, well, you're never going to be able to see
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  him practice during the season because every practice is at ten am really the whole
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  year. Really, it's interesting. Yeah, ten am, ten am now
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  and ten am for the rest of the year. They're doing that for a
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  couple of different reasons, one being and once they leave the building, like
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  you know, like one o'clock ish, they go do some classes. They
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  literally have the rest of the day to theirselves. They don't have to go
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  back to the building anymore. Really, so it gives them once they go
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  back to eat, they yeah, I guess they could go. Yeah,
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  I guess they will go for a post game, but yeah, they don't
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  have to though. Some guys you know, eat at their house. But
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  ninety two of them are married. I mean, I don't know if they
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  bring the wife over there or anything like that. But yeah, so that's
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  classes of change. Man. I'd like to know the percentage. I'm sure
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  they have it down. What percentage of these guys have online classes? Probably,
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  like we think, Senator, I don't have a good guess for you.
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  Yeah, anyone that's happened a lot, I would think. By the
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  way, since this isn't a live show, at least one of our two
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  shots at me early one of our co hosts knows that I'm just simply saying
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  that I'm hearing it's thundering outside. If by chance we lose power, we
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  will resume the program. All right, So a bunch of stuff to get
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  into West Virginia stuff. But the conference story that happened, it all came
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  down on Friday. It was something that we had speculated about, Hey,
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  this could happen, this could happen, this could happen. Yeah, And
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  normally when you do talk about a lot of these things, it never happens,
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  or some version of it happens, a piece of it will happen.
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  But on Friday, we experienced an absolute historic moment in the history of college
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  athletics. And now here even three days afterward, I'm still trying to process
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  it. I still don't think and I don't know if we fully grasped and
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  embraced what this actually means to us. To West Virginia, I'm gonna say
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  this. Listen to it. Okay, I'm gonna say yeah, I'm listening.
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  West Virginia University is now in a conference with Arizona. West Virginia University
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  is now in a conference with Arizona State, with Utah, with Colorado.
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  I know you can say it and you can hear it. Let it simmer
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  like a tea bag in a cup, and just think of the lunacy that
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  we are about to put our foot into here. It is absolutely headshaking and
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  amazing as to where we are and how we got here. It's stunning.
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  It's one thing for us to say on Friday, Hey the Pac twelve exploded.
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  Four schools are coming to the Big twelve. Two schools are going to
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  the Big ten. And you just say it, But then you know what
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  it's like. You oftentimes say, Brad, we can sit around and have
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  a gazillion great ideas, but it's the actual execution that's the hard part.
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  Don't think about this now. I'll be like Bobby bowdenow. Now not only
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  are there in your league, now you have to play them now, you
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  have to go there. And the first, the first bullet shot was fired
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  by Arizona States Athletic director this weekend or he takes a shot at Morgantown in
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  WUVU and says, I'll tell you one thing, I'm not going there.
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  All due respect, Yeah, all due respect. Yeah, that's the only
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  thing he left out of that quote. What he did, I welcome to
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  the league there, Ray Anderson. Do you think that one through? So
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  I looked, I go, well, who's Ray Anderson? And they said,
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  well, they went he was in the NFL. Harvard Law. Gray.
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  A couple of things hit me, which I count of some truth.
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  You can go to Harvard Law and you can be ivy League smart, but
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  you can also be dumb. And what he said was dumb. Like your
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  ass was out there Friday. You're lucky you had someone throw you a lifeboat
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  raft and say here, we're gonna take you in. Like, what have
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  you done? Arizona State? Hey, Ray? Nice higher on herm Edwards,
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  that worked real Well, you're gonna make the NFL in college. You
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  showed us, didn't you? Good move? Solid move on your part.
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  Seriously, it takes a shot at West Virginia are you kidding me. Now,
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  we got a rivalry. Great job anyway, So now you got to
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  play these schools and I'll get off my soapbox here. But it'll never be
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  the same. This is another piece of college sports pulling away from fans.
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  We can be in this league for fifty years and it still isn't going to
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  twirl your heart. When these other schools come in here to play, it'll
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  be different. It'll be different, but that goes across the board in college
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  sports. What we've just done, so I'll leave the floor open to you.
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  How did we get here? It's a business case study of who has
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  the golden rule and the gold rules, and presidents have started and chancellors in
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  schools and universities have made these decisions incrementally through the years, and they totally
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  lost the entire perspective of what this thing was supposed to be. You don't
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  mean to go go Well, the answer your question that you already know is
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  TV has the gold And that's the incremental decisions that have been made over twenty
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  five or thirty years that have landed college sports in this position where a conference
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  that can exist for more than a century can go away seemingly overnight for a
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  few million dollars. I mean, think, think what Oregon and Washington made
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  that move on. Now. Is there more gold in their future potentially,
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  But they made that move for not much more than what they were being offered
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  as it was. And there's a lot to unpack with this, and there's
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  a lot of different angles to take with this, but it's stunning from the
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  standpoint that, yes, it's remade the landscape of college sports, and to
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  think there's not a major West Coast presence to college football is really bizarre.
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  And not that we sat there and drooled over West host football or watched all
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  that closely, but it's just that's probably not the way this should be.
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  And you've heard me say up here many times this industry, college football in
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  particular, but college sports in general, is regional in nature. That's that's
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  what it should be. Was. But here's the thing. I don't know
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  that I talk to anybody that says it shouldn't be that way. Why everybody
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  you talk to in and around it says, oh, yeah it should be
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  Yeah, we should compack to regional Yeah, it really should be playing in
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  those regions. Yeah, what you say about the acc opponents makes a lot
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  of sense. Yeah there should be a West Coast, Yeah, those rivals,
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  but it never happens. It goes the other way all the time.
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  And that's the part where I just get the feeling. And I don't know
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  how long this is going to be. If it's ten or twenty or thirty
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  years, when the when the documentary is done on college sports, how do
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  you look back and go, what the hell were those people in charge doing
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  back then? What were they doing? Why? How did it get like
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  that? And there's not time on this podcast to go through how that affects.
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  We're not live. We can go as long as you want, I
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  know, but people are their eyes are gonna glaze over at some point because
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  it's not West Virginia based right now, the other sports, the volleyballs,
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  the softballs for the West coast? What have we just done to all of
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  those sports? Win's football going to break itself off? And you can start
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  making some decisions on that. And if you want to send Oregon and Washington
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  the Pac twelve or to the Big Ten, and you want to take those
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  other Arizona schools and Utah and bring them to the Big twelve, that's fine,
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  but there's still a PAC twelve that exists for softball and volleyball and swimming
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  and all those other sports that are out there and that schools say that matter,
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  but they don't really care about when it comes down to acting that all
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  these decisions are made that are football based. The last piece, and then
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  I know we'll go in a bunch of different directions. It set up on
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  your show today. Maybe we should be looking at this. As you know,
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  I always say conference re alignment. You always say conference real organization.
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  Maybe it's really conference consolidation. That's probably where we're headed. If you look
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  back to the timing of when the Big East went away, it was right
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  before TV contracts and the playoffs changed, right before you went to a playoff.
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  This time it goes away a year before you enter into a new playoff
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  contract. The kind of that might be the thing that shows you what's coming
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  next. And are we at the point now? There were four more schools
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  that were left out to dry Stanford, cal Oregon State in Washington State through
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  no fault of their own. Necessarily, they were just decided upon that they
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  weren't of interest to the TV networks and they moved on without them, and
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  now those four are left to scramble what's the next piece of consolidation. Where
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  does this go next? And that's where the West Virginia perspective comes in.
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  Not now and everybody, I agree with everybody that's saying West Virginia wasn't centrally
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  involved in this particular shuffling. And that was kind of nice, right,
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  It was nice to sit back and watch it from afar. You don't have
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  to worry about what your immediate future looked like. But somewhere down the roads,
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  you're going to have to again, whether the acc explodes and you try
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  and pick up some of their folks, whether they get their stuff together and
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  they start rating the Big twelve, there's still moves coming here, and West
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  Virginia's challenges are still its challenges in the eyes of the TV rights holders.
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  And so that's the part where you kind of look out there and okay,
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  Westernay was fine for now, But what's the next consolidation move? Who's left
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  out the next time this happens. And that's the part where you you always
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  have to have one eye looking down there going is Western and Okay down the
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  road, you guys know the story of the Donner Party. Excuse me,
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  the Donner deal in in the yard. The Donner Party though eighteen forty six,
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  the Donner family and it was the Reed family, and of the families
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  set off from Illinois and they were going to California. It was like eighty
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  some because it was it was a promise of a better opportunity with somebody out
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  there. It was going to sell them some land. And they made a
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  couple of mistakes. They got they got a little bit of a late start.
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  They followed the advice of someone who said take this, go this way,
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  it's a short cut, and they got caught in Sierra Nevada mountains in
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  the wintertime, and they got snowed in and they ran out of food,
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  and to survive they turned to cannibalism, and when someone died, they cannibalize
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  the individual to stay alive. And when the when the history was written about
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  about the Donner Party, Uh, one of the observations was there weren't really
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  heroes or villains. There were just people trying to survive. And so that's
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  what I see with these schools. It's it's a matter of survival. And
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  in the effort to survive, if somebody gets eaten. Well that's the that's
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  the price that had to be paid. And that's that's where we are.
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  So who got who got eaten? And we're sitting there, Brad, you're
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  saying, oh goodness, we're not talking about West Virginia. West Virginia is
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  just relieved. It is not the one get cannibalized. Correct, That's why
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  you got to look past this movement, Sarah, Are we gonna Are they
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  get us next? You know, whereas there are four other schools that got
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  cannibalized. Well that that suffered, and you're going, who glad, it's
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  not us. Glad, it's not us? And so are their heroes?
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  Are their villains? Are there? Are there? Just in these life and
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  death, these figurative life and death circumstances concerning schools and conference survival, there
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  only is survive or done. That's where you are. I think it's a
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  great analogy. He said that to me earlier. I think it's a great
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  analogy. His story kind of got dark pretty quick. It got dark.
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  Yeah, but the point remains, and I've said it on this on this
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  show before, at what point does that really get serious? And it starts
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  to go not only the people that are over there, But it's the people
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  at the table. And I've said this, why does Vanderbilt, all due
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  respect, get a pass? Why does Rutger get a pass? And I
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  get the mechanics, and I get they every subscriber in that geographical area,
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  it kicks money back even there. Why I get that. But at some
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  point, a Rutgers team that's won thirteen conference games in ten years, what
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  are we doing? If we want to start looking across the table and TV
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  networks are going to pick winners losers. How long does it take before they
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  get to the point where they say, why are we giving Vanderbilt eighty million?
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  Why does Rutgers get eighty or one hundred? What get them out?
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  Bring me Florida State in here, bring me this group in here, and
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  you're out, and you talk about consolidation and relegation, that's someone at the
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  table's gonna get booted. Well, you're booted art of all, You're you're
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  already seeing that discussion begin with Florida State where schools are saying, wait a
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  minute, how come we're only getting the same amount as everybody else and we're
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  a bigger attraction. So it's this that's the same kind of argument that's taking
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  place. And back to the other point you made. It used to be
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  twenty years ago. You wouldn't have said that in public. No, no,
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  you wouldn't have. But that's and television, which I agree with you.
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  The television is driving all this. Television doesn't care about historic rivalries except
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  when they bring eyeballs, okay, like Ohio State Michigan Okay, obviously usc
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  uc okay. But if they can get a matchup, I mean somewhere somebody's
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  going, you know what, Oregon Michigan people, we can sell that,
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  you know, so that's what matters to them. Yeah, and listen,
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  as somebody that consumes as much as you can possibly consume on television, I
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  mean, the television explosion for me, Brad Howe as a consumer has been
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  awesome. The availability of games are we were growing up, you get one
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  game a week. Maybe, the fact that we can get all the I
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  mean it's been great for me as a personal college football fan. But to
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  the entity of college football, it's come with a heavy price. Think of
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  all those rivalries that have been nixed and now you potentially have a couple more
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  with the Washington Washington state, Oregon, Oregon State. And so here's the
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  other part of that. So as you look back on this and start to
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  do the documentary for it, who have been the big winners in realignment school
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  wise? Start to go down the list of all the schools that have moved,
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  who do you look at and say definitively that school has won through any
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  to pick any of the rounds of realignment. And I'm seriously asking this one
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  about success or money. I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about success
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  because I get the money. And I'm not going to rehash my argument of
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  why are we rooting for us? I've got two has Pitt no, Syracuse
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  no, has go ahead, Louisville has Louisville no, only because they're in,
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  not out, but no, they haven't won anymore, Maryland no,
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  Missouri no, Rutgers no, West Virginia No. And has it got back
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  to where it was? Here's the only two I can come up with.
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  It are reasonable that you can say have one and produced. They're in and
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  they're safe, and they have produced at a higher level than where they were
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  because did but go ahead? That's one? Okay, I give Utah they
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  have they have clawed up from the depths of being irrelevant into two different rounds
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  of realignment, and they have a seat at the table, and they've won
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  a decent amount of games. And what's A and M one. They're about
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  the same they've been in the Big twelve. They got more money. Okay,
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  fine, they're not any better competitively necessarily. The one, the one
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  obvious one to me, TCU was one. I mean, I'm sorry,
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  Utah was one TCUs the other. TCU got itself same thing. It was
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  searching for a home. It was big East for a minute that it was
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  not. It found its way out of that mountain west as well to a
• 23:02
  stable league one that it fits geographically. So it was a big winner there
• 23:06
  and got itself into a football national championship game last year. So the new
• 23:10
  playoff format, check into a national championship game, check in a big league,
• 23:15
  check and one that geographically matters and is relevant to them. Check.
• 23:18
  TCU to me is the big winner. No. Outside of that, I'm
• 23:22
  open for techs on the next show on who else, if anybody else has
• 23:26
  really benefit had been a big realignment winner? You know who hasn't You know
• 23:32
  who hasn't. And they were the first one to move Penn State. I'll
• 23:36
  put that into perspective up think it hoppy. Penn State was a what perennial
• 23:41
  national championship contender in the day, right seventies, eighties, they're a national
• 23:48
  championship beginning. They're not that anymore. They're a really good team in the
• 23:51
  Big Ten conference, but they're not national championship. What about could you make
• 23:56
  the argument for West Virginia considering that when West Virginia in the Big twelve,
• 24:00
  they were also in danger of being left out entirely. Yeah, I get
• 24:04
  that argument, but so were Utah and TCU, and they've found a way
• 24:07
  to win more games. I'm going back to outside of just having a seat
• 24:11
  being in not out. Okay, yeah, Western obviously they're in not out,
• 24:15
  so they do. But they haven't achieved the same success on the field
• 24:19
  to what they had in the Big East A football or basketball. Always primarily
• 24:23
  thinking of football, so I don't count them as one of the big winners
• 24:26
  TCO. Utah has been to multiple Rose Bowls, including the last two.
• 24:30
  TCU found a way into the playoffs, which which had been so difficult for
• 24:33
  so many different programs. So that's why I have those two as the clear
• 24:37
  winners, and outside that, I've got a big laundry list of schools that
• 24:40
  have not done it. Nebraska's one. Yeah, yeah, they're on the
• 24:44
  outside looking end of success. Haven't ever regained what they were in the Big
• 24:47
  eight. So that's the other that's just the other part of that. And
• 24:51
  again, yeah, you have to stay relevant and not get left out.
• 24:55
  I get it, but you also at some point have to have some success.
• 24:56
  And there's a lot of schools through all of these move The TV's getting
• 25:00
  some matchups, but Ohio State's getting richer, Michigan's getting richer, Alabama's getting
• 25:04
  richer, and there's a bunch of schools in there that just are not the
• 25:07
  same as what they once were and have paid a significant price. Even though
• 25:11
  their checkbook balance looks better, but they've paid a significant price in loss of
• 25:15
  rivalries and regionality. In West Virginia is certainly one of those. And to
• 25:19
  your point, I think that what Friday showed us is that these schools have
• 25:26
  no problem whatsoever of sitting across the table and go and organized crime and saying
• 25:33
  everything's going to be just fine and step backward and go you're out. They
• 25:36
  don't have a problem doing that. They left four schools. Where was the
• 25:40
  collegiality? Oregon State, Washington State, Kale Stanford, Where was the collegiality?
• 25:45
  Left them high and dry. Into your point, you always have to
• 25:51
  turn around or at least sit in the corner of the room so you can
• 25:53
  see everyone that's coming at you. Otherwise you could be next. There are
• 25:57
  three categories of schools, or the powerful, the less powerful, and the
• 26:02
  powerless. Forget rivalries, forget all that stuff. That's who exists. You
• 26:07
  got the power, you use it, you're powerless. It gets dictated too.
• 26:10
  And that's what happened to those schools in the Pac twelve. You got
• 26:12
  to be good. The only thing you can do internally is yes, you've
• 26:17
  got to be good. West Virginia is Arizona. Any good is Arizona State?
• 26:21
  Any good? Basketball? Arizonaball? But basketball isn't driving I understand.
• 26:26
  But it's still a name brand. And this is the basketball league in the
• 26:30
  country in the Big Twelve. That's certainly helped West Virginia does not go to
• 26:36
  the Big Twelve if it wasn't for don Nielan and Rich Rodriguez. Why Because
• 26:40
  West Virginia's brand strength was really really good, and Chuck Ninus and Chuck Ninas
• 26:45
  and Donnelin and the whole thing that was that's how you got there. You
• 26:49
  can't be bad for a long time, otherwise you will be pushed off to
• 26:52
  the side. But it helped in the other reason that matters. It helps
• 26:56
  the other schools in that league welcome that school. It's easy defense of that
• 27:00
  school. West Virginia was easier to defend back then at that time because of
• 27:04
  the success that had had through Don and through Rich. It was nationally known.
• 27:11
  There was a national relevance to itally known. They played for national championship
• 27:15
  and then Rich back back up and did the same thing too and had an
• 27:18
  exciting brand. So, yes, you're right, that's what's school. That's
• 27:21
  why it's so important for schools have to get back to You've got to win,
• 27:23
  especially in football, but also in men's basketball, where those are the
• 27:26
  two relevant sports on most of the national eyeballs. You've got to have the
• 27:30
  attention so that when the ground shifts, you have someplace to move. It's
• 27:34
  why so many people are looking at Florida State going huh are you what are
• 27:40
  you talking about? You're thirty two and thirty two in conference over the last
• 27:42
  eight years. And you want an on equal Bobby, Bobby Brown's not there.
• 27:47
  Jimbo won a national title, but they have not done anything since.
• 27:49
  Yeah, happy, I mean, it's kind of like the legacy radio station.
• 27:53
  You know, there's some legacy radio stations that we grew up with that
• 27:56
  they then they'd start to do this, and they go, but that's call,
• 28:00
  and you go, well, that's a great radio state. No,
• 28:03
  it used to be a great radio station. Florida State under Bobby Bowden.
• 28:06
  The number of ten plus win seasons they had during his run was unprecedented.
• 28:10
  His point is the point, thirty two and thirty two in the last day
• 28:12
  year. They understand. But who's gonna get more eyeballs, Florida State or
• 28:15
  South Carolina. Well, it depends. Florida State hasn't over the last couple
• 28:19
  of years, Hoppy, we sit around and watch every game that goes on
• 28:22
  on Saturday's right, how many times do we sit around talk about Florida State
• 28:26
  over the last eight years. None? We have not. Now they got
• 28:29
  better last year, so they started coming back in the discussion. But that
• 28:32
  Miami, Miami is of some interest. Miami doesn't put people in that stadium.
• 28:37
  They haven't been nationally relevant in thirty years, right, So those are
• 28:42
  the things now get granted. I know the decision makers are of the age
• 28:45
  that they still look at a Florida State into Miami have having different cache.
• 28:51
  But that's where that unequal pay gets so bizarre because the thing moves up and
• 28:55
  down so much. Who's to say Alabama's gonna be Alabama when Saban leaves because
• 28:59
  they weren't before Saban got there. Where Mike Schula didn't have it going.
• 29:02
  Clemson wasn't the Clemson of three years ago when West Virginia hung seventy on them
• 29:06
  until they decided we're not gonna get seventy hung on est anymore. We're gonna
• 29:08
  change some of our internal practices and we're gonna get back to being good.
• 29:12
  So that thing ebbs and flows a little bit, so you've gotta be a
• 29:15
  little bit careful of that. And Florida's and that's what people are doing Florid.
• 29:18
  They're looking side I at Florida State, Well, what what are you
• 29:21
  talking about? Just be good? Just be good? Easier said than done,
• 29:25
  but it's be good. And one last thing on this unless you have
• 29:27
  what do you got another story about another couple that went out to the argue
• 29:30
  about Florida States somehow, Oh, I know, I don't want to argue
• 29:33
  about Florida State. I just it just is it's remarkable that this conference that
• 29:41
  has been around for a hundred and ten years and we keep tracking. I
• 29:45
  mean, you know, we don't see a lot of as many games.
• 29:47
  We're like, oh, what's happening at PAC twelve. We're fans, we
• 29:49
  follow at Oregon's playing Oregon State? You know, Okay, what's going on?
• 29:52
  And it's just like, what what happened? When did it follow?
• 29:56
  What happened? He just wiped off the map? Yeah, just wiped off
• 30:00
  the map, you know. And it's really and also brand like Ustad,
• 30:06
  How does the how does it comes to this? How does the West Virginia
• 30:10
  volleyball team go women's volleyball team go to Arizona? Yeah, and listen not
• 30:15
  often. I know there's a lot of people that say but that are going
• 30:17
  to roll their eyes and say they don't care, they don't want to talk
• 30:18
  about they don't want to hear about it. But those administrators in those departments
• 30:22
  have to care. They say they care. They have to care, and
• 30:26
  they just made decisions that affect a bunch of different athletes in their department that
• 30:30
  aren't going to see the value of the revenue there. That that's a real
• 30:33
  concern for college athletics, even though it might not be for fans to care
• 30:36
  about it. Now that said, am I going to turn on when USC
• 30:38
  plays Michigan and Ohio State? Am I gonna watch that game and be dialed
• 30:41
  in no matter what time it is or what Yeah? Absolutely so. The
• 30:45
  college football fan experience to some extent nationally still carries itself on. It's just
• 30:51
  that local regional fan base that I that I feel for again in the realignment
• 30:56
  situation because they've lost something they can't get back. See. I hear it
• 31:00
  from our fans when I go out. I was in Charleston last week,
• 31:03
  I was in Parkersburg this weekend. I mean to them, that is still
• 31:07
  a huge, huge thing for them. Eleven plus years after West Virginia went
• 31:11
  to the Big Twelve, they very badly missed the opportunity to jump into a
• 31:17
  car and to go to a Mountaineer road game in a league in a league
• 31:21
  game. It hurts them. I get it completely Unfortunately, this is the
• 31:26
  best scenario that WVU could possibly be in right now. See you know what.
• 31:30
  To that point, it goes back to what you opened the show with,
• 31:33
  how you feel this is so bizarre. I actually feel less odd about
• 31:37
  this than I did the first Big twelve move. Like, to me,
• 31:41
  the weird thing was playing Iowa State in Texas Tech. That felt totally foreign
• 31:45
  and weird, and like, what's happening here? Who are you playing this?
• 31:48
  To me? You want to bring Colorado and you want to bring Arizona
• 31:52
  in Arizona saying okay, whatever it feels. It actually used less weird than
• 31:55
  the first week. You said Friday on sports Line. Hop he doesn't listen
• 31:57
  to course, so we'll let him hear it. Um, you said Friday
• 32:00
  on sports Line that basically, now with these schools in this league, now
• 32:04
  you're just going to view these as like old old school. These are just
• 32:07
  not your non conference portion of the schedule, all non conference games. I
• 32:10
  think basically Western Day plays an entire slate of non conference an independent, right,
• 32:15
  it's an independent. You're about your Colorado coming, that's way great.
• 32:17
  Oh you're going to Texas next week? That's fine. Hey, you want
• 32:19
  to head over to Iowa and take on. I say it sounds good.
• 32:21
  Bring them all on it. Hey, it's difference new opponents, twelve non
• 32:23
  conference games. Twelve nonconference games, because what's the conference name even matter anymore?
• 32:30
  Right? They're all ridiculous now, so what's it matters? So I'm
• 32:32
  just going to view this as all nonconference games. Just view just view it
• 32:36
  as TV does. This is the attraction as non conference matchups. Just the
• 32:40
  game, all right. Now, here's one thing and then we can move
• 32:43
  on to current football if you want. The other thing that's coming next though,
• 32:45
  is what happens with this new playoff that didn't even have a chance to
• 32:49
  get off the ground with its parameters before. Those parameters have to switch.
• 32:52
  Now, so top what was it, top six leagues? Top six league
• 32:58
  champions get an automatic earth we got do you take one of those away?
• 33:01
  Is it now just five? Does the SEC and the Big ten come in
• 33:06
  and bang their fist and say we need more guaranteed spots. We're not just
• 33:08
  taking our one, we want three, four, two. So that playoff
• 33:14
  thing never even got a chance to be implemented, and you have to change
• 33:16
  it again. Hoppy, that's how fast the thing moves. Well, I'm
• 33:20
  sure slammering for a bigger playoff for years and they put one answer, I'm
• 33:22
  gonna scrap that, tear that up. Doesn't work. We haven't even happened.
• 33:27
  I'm sure the SEC and the Big Ten will be more than happy to
• 33:30
  let the Mountain West have an automatic bid. And a few of those other
• 33:34
  leagues, I'm sure they have no issues at all. I'm sure not.
• 33:37
  Whatever those guys do you take care of, go ahead and give them those
• 33:39
  tens of millions of dollars every year. We don't need those dog on dollars.
• 33:42
  They're just getting away anyway. One last thing on this travel wise football,
• 33:50
  basketball, it doesn't mean anything. Now you're gonna lose your mind.
• 33:54
  You're gonna start screaming, hey may lose ain't No, it doesn't. You
• 33:58
  know the Washington the Organ State coach said this over the Weekend's right, football
• 34:07
  and basketball are still going to travel on seven thirty seven charters. And you
• 34:12
  just sit back and I saw the breakdown of Arizona States travel. Did you
• 34:16
  see that graph? And in the Pac twelve and in the Big twelve,
• 34:21
  and it's quote unquote nominal. Don't worry about football and basketball, men's basketball,
• 34:27
  women's basketball, and football. It's the other sports. Those are the
• 34:32
  ones where every road trip becomes an absolute adventure. Those are your three day
• 34:38
  ers. You leave the day before the game, you play the game,
• 34:43
  and then you leave the day after the game. Everything becomes three Those are
• 34:46
  really hard and you're flying commercial those are really really hard. They wear you
• 34:52
  out. So that to me is going to make it quite interesting for me
• 34:58
  to see how they end up doing that. Now. I talked to someone
• 35:00
  Friday who thought they might create a pod system where we would be melded with
• 35:07
  three What would a pod system do? What's the benefit of a pod system
• 35:12
  Potentially reduce your travel? It would because you're putting with schools that are closer
• 35:15
  to you for travel. So the leagues think that's a good idea to put
• 35:19
  some schools that are close together in these pods. They think, I believe
• 35:22
  that's the thoughts revolutionary element idea got folks, Yeah, pods, I hate
• 35:29
  I got an idea. You could have probably put some teams that are all
• 35:32
  in the same region, have big conferences. That ares I'm just trying to
• 35:37
  get a man's work done here, just constantly get criticized you're right. I
• 35:42
  mean, I'm not taunting you on that. I'm taking the concept that that's
• 35:45
  going to be hailed as these great decisions to put these in pods, when
• 35:49
  that's what it was. You know, as to the credit of the it's
• 35:54
  true, to the credit of the administrators. What I didn't see on Friday
• 35:59
  was any of the the constant bs about the academics. Listen, you leave,
• 36:05
  you put Stanford and cal and push them off the edge into the Pacific
• 36:07
  Ocean with no life festivals. We're done talking academics. We Kurchiville. Don't
• 36:13
  you do it? Because he telling you, don't you do it? Don't
• 36:15
  you come at me one Saturday this year that academ don't even I don't even
• 36:20
  want to hear it. And I also don't want to see anybody academically.
• 36:22
  Nobody should be academically ineligible either. Just forget that. You get rid of
• 36:25
  those two academic institutions. We're done. We're done with that discussion is truth
• 36:30
  that never got a mansion. Now. They were just concerned about the young
• 36:34
  men, the student athletes, young women and play the sports. While I
• 36:37
  was doing the pod system, the Big twelve pod just I mean, it's
• 36:44
  a head shaker. All right, we'll get into more when we get into
• 36:47
  textual healing. Their football team is into its second week of practice. Fan
• 36:53
  day on Saturday, Senator, you were there? Do you have a good
• 36:57
  time? I did, meaningful weather, sun was out. Do you meet
• 37:00
  any three guys? Listeners? You know what? I didn't? Excuse me,
• 37:02
  didn't? Didn't? Did you ride late? Went through a side entrance
• 37:07
  downstairs? And right up? Who'd you said with Hunter? Hunter? How
• 37:12
  did he behave? Well? Did you guess he was good? Was he
• 37:15
  working this heavy? Well? I took his I took his sheet, took
• 37:19
  his I took his Sheet's this by the way, this is the gold.
• 37:22
  This is good. This is gold, and it's also gold this time of
• 37:24
  year. It's like a second is that? Okay? Yeah? It was
• 37:28
  a beautiful day. Yeah? Where was your Where was your takeaway? Um?
• 37:36
  Okay, this is gonna be kind of long winded, but I'm gonna
• 37:37
  dive in. You're ready, sure, here's my here's my overall takeaway from
• 37:42
  two practices. And some of this may be wishful thinking, hoppy, so
• 37:47
  bear with me. Okay, you wait a minute, you're not saying you
• 37:50
  have wishful thinking. In August? Are you build a positivity in August?
• 37:55
  Here, here's what I'm walking away with from my first couple. I've looks
• 38:00
  at practice and then just kind of looking throughsh So let's stay offense for a
• 38:02
  second. We'll get to defense. But my general overall thought, I do
• 38:06
  think I believe the narrative coming out that defense is going to be better,
• 38:09
  right. I think those defensive backs are going to help this year and be
• 38:13
  back. Okay, fine, go over to offense for a second, and
• 38:16
  you start with if it if it's gonna be Garrett Green at quarterback, or
• 38:20
  quite frankly, even if Nico plays as well, chances are you're gonna have
• 38:22
  to play both at some point. But let's start with Garrett Green. The
• 38:25
  offense, just by its very nature of a guy that is so mobile,
• 38:30
  is going to have to look a little bit different. You have more options.
• 38:32
  Okay, start there. Then you go to the backfield, and you've
• 38:37
  got three running backs that have produced at a high level on this stage in
• 38:40
  C. J. Donaldson, Jayalen Anderson, and Justin Johnson. We've seen
• 38:44
  them all do good things at certain times. So you got three right there.
• 38:46
  Then you enter a fourth that is apparently the front runner for the Heisman
• 38:51
  in Jahim White. Where did that come from? Everybody else Jahim White?
• 38:58
  Since he had that big touchdown run in the spring game. I mean,
• 39:00
  I ever, everybody, everybody just google Jahim What there's there's this article after
• 39:06
  article after article of Jahime White. Neil's talking about Jahime Why Jem White early
• 39:09
  Heisman winner? Front runner? But let's say Jahim White is a guy that
• 39:15
  can help you right now this year. Now you got now you get four
• 39:17
  guys in the backfield, all right, So what's that do, Hobby?
• 39:21
  What if you have four running backs that are all capable of going to put
• 39:23
  somebody in the slot, move them out in motion. And I do think,
• 39:27
  okay, you have an option to do some of that. Can C.
• 39:29
  J. Donaldson catch the ball? Yes? Well absolutely right? Can
• 39:32
  you can you do that with Jalen Anderson they're talking about Neil was talking about
• 39:36
  Jahime White's ball skills? Right, Okay, fine, all right, let's
• 39:37
  take everybody at their word. This time of year, there's some options there.
• 39:42
  I know receivers don't have a lot of proven options. But let's say
• 39:45
  Devin Carter does what he did at NC Staton was a productive guy. Okay
• 39:49
  there, what have we heard about E. J. Horton from Marshall?
• 39:52
  Tony, what's what's the Hortons file? Say? The Horton file says?
• 39:54
  What Tony the Horton file? What's it? What's bred? Straightaway? Sp
• 40:00
  very fast, straight way pete. So okay, Let's say he can get
• 40:01
  by the defense and catch a couple balls and you can back that safety up.
• 40:05
  All right, now you have some room to operate. How about a
• 40:07
  gentleman by the name of Noah Massey, nice target? What can you read
• 40:10
  off there? Noah Massey? Can you find his numbers? Sure? He's
• 40:13
  a six foot three inch, two hundred and thirty seven pound red shirt red
• 40:16
  shirt senior transfer from Houston, Texas via Spring Westfield High School via Bowling Green
• 40:22
  via Angelo State. What position is Noah Massey gonna get some run? At?
• 40:25
  I believe they'll place him in the slot? Excuse me? Slot slot?
• 40:30
  What is he? Six three? What? Uh? He's a young
• 40:32
  man that is six foot three inches and weighs two hundred and thirty seven lb.
• 40:37
  When you watched the slot guys in a in a group and mass he's
• 40:39
  with him, It's like whyat milam has come over and entered the chat in
• 40:43
  the in the slot. So now you put a big guy like that out
• 40:45
  in the slot, and you still have Rodney Gallagher that can come in and
• 40:47
  catch a couple passes throughout the course. Point being here, here's what I'm
• 40:52
  trying to build up Neil going back to play calling. And I liked what
• 40:54
  Neil said earlier this week when when he kind of went on the offensive and
• 40:58
  just said, here, here's the deal. I'll call the place. It's
• 41:00
  my tenth years a head coach or ninth year or whatever. He said,
• 41:02
  our best years. My best years have been when I'm calling the place.
• 41:06
  I got the head job because I was a good offensive coordinator. All right,
• 41:08
  get back to Neil calling the plays, and it seems hoppy, and
• 41:12
  I get that it's August, and seeming is different than actually doing it.
• 41:15
  And EJ. Horton can't just run by the safety. He's got to catch
• 41:19
  the ball. And Green can't just look good throwing the ball in drills,
• 41:21
  which by the way he does ball jumps out. He's got to be able
• 41:22
  to get it to him for some place. Yeah. I get all the
• 41:24
  execution stuff, but I feel like maybe there's some options here with Neil getting
• 41:30
  more creative than he's been able to be with the offense in the first four
• 41:34
  years. Let it out a little bit because you've got guys maybe that fit.
• 41:37
  Can this offense maybe give you a little bit that you haven't seen?
• 41:42
  Is that too far fetched him? A no, No. What you're doing
• 41:46
  is trying to find trying to find just what the coaching staff is doing,
• 41:52
  trying to find reasons, trying to find ways to be better. Okay,
• 41:57
  that's what you're doing, and you're looking at people who have potential, So
• 42:00
  that's that's what you have to do. The the the concern about that is
• 42:05
  you're still talking about a number of people, not all the number of people
• 42:07
  who are untested are so you don't know. But you're hoping for and you're
• 42:12
  hoping for this, and you're hoping I get that, but I hear what
• 42:15
  you're saying. Let let me build on that. The defense last year gave
• 42:19
  up what thirty three points a game, which was one of the worst in
• 42:22
  the league, like ninth in the league. If you improve by fifteen percent,
• 42:28
  improved by fifteen percent, that means you would allow twenty eight points per
• 42:34
  game. That's good. For fourth instead of that would be good for fourth
• 42:37
  instead of ninth according to last year's as year's rankings. So you don't have
• 42:43
  to improve by You got to improve, but you don't have to improve fifty
• 42:45
  percent or thirty percent. Improve like fifteen percent. That's realistically. What's that?
• 42:50
  That's realistic? Yeah, Offensively, you average thirty one points a game
• 42:53
  in a league. This scores a lot of points. That was ninth.
• 42:58
  That was ninth in the league. If you improved ten percent, ten percent,
• 43:01
  three points a game, three points a game, thirty four points,
• 43:06
  that moves you up to fourth last year. So I'm kind of aspirational,
• 43:10
  like you are that if you can just do not even substantially better, somewhat
• 43:16
  better, you're you're gonna you're gonna move. You can move, you can
• 43:22
  move the you can move well. And I we've talked about the schedule,
• 43:25
  how balanced the schedule is from four through I mean, it maybe end up
• 43:30
  being from one to fourteen, but four through fourteen, So I think there's
• 43:32
  some opportunities there. Defensively, I just keep going back to you were you
• 43:37
  were literally two plays away last year one play and take your pick. There
• 43:42
  were four or five to use from in the Pit game and one roughness penalty
• 43:45
  at the end of the Kansas game that kept that drive alive instead of forcing
• 43:49
  them into a fifty five plus yard field goal in the rain. You're two
• 43:52
  plays away from winning seven games last year with that defense that just really struggled.
• 43:59
  Can you can you not get in that range again? Is that unrealistic
• 44:02
  to think? And I know what all the productions are. I know what
• 44:05
  the Vegas win total says to you, But that doesn't seem to me like
• 44:08
  you're asking for for too big of elite that that's realistic. That is that
• 44:14
  is no, you're right, that is two more interceptions instead of getting four,
• 44:17
  you get six or seven? Okay, that's instead of getting a roughing
• 44:22
  penalty, you get a sack. That's that's literally a couple plays right at
• 44:27
  key at key parts of the game. What I think, what's and we'll
• 44:30
  talk more about this. I think what's most concerning is I hate this open.
• 44:32
  I really do. I love the open. I hate the open because
• 44:37
  if Penn State is as good as everybody says it is, and you get
• 44:39
  and you get whacked, and you get whacked, that could set you back
• 44:45
  for for a long time. For a month. It's and if you play
• 44:49
  that out for it, it's it's a really tough for first four games.
• 44:52
  Take Duquee out of there. That that that's where I mean, you're gonna
• 44:53
  get a really good indication early. And I'm with you. That's, as
• 44:57
  we've said many times fan perspective, Penn State back on the schedule, awesome.
• 45:01
  Normally I would be giddy about that for Neil Brown in this football program.
• 45:05
  I'm not giddy about that for them because that's that shouldn't be your opening
• 45:07
  game there. That's just that's not where this program should be. It should
• 45:12
  have a game where you can build some confidence, get some win. We
• 45:15
  can see some of those things I just talked about, they can put them
• 45:16
  into action and see how you respond. Then you get to Kane and then
• 45:21
  comes that massive game against Passive. But to go Penn State pit Texas Tech,
• 45:24
  who's picked in the top quarter of the league. There, that that's
• 45:27
  a really difficult that's gonna be a pick them. Penn State's favored by twenty.
• 45:31
  You always struggle with Texas Tech. I mean, it is a very
• 45:35
  very difficult schedule. But I'm like you, I mean, at this point
• 45:37
  in the season, it's reasonable to try to build a case for being better.
• 45:42
  Okay, thank you. I thought you were going to attack me.
• 45:44
  No, no, no, no, you guys, good hobby. I
• 45:47
  think you made some great points. You don't need to be fifty percent better,
• 45:51
  need to be ten and fifteen percent better, and that should put you
• 45:53
  in a pretty good position. You'll be better. You know you have to
• 45:57
  and you have to be I mean, you can't be ninth in points allowed
• 46:01
  and points scored and have a winning record and to add to that. And
• 46:07
  I always do this too. This is why I don't get too excited one
• 46:08
  way or the other. It's football. You're going to get injuries. It's
• 46:14
  who gets hurt, when they get hurt, and what position they play that's
• 46:17
  happening, that's going to happen, the reality of the game. So you
• 46:22
  don't know those things. So we can sit here and speculate and we can
• 46:25
  make logical predictions as to what needs to happen, but you just never know
• 46:30
  personnel wise what is going to happen, and so you just kind of play
• 46:34
  it out. That's what makes this thing both tense and fun when the season
• 46:38
  goes on, because this sports are the last to my opinion, one of
• 46:43
  the few remaining reality television shows that are real reality. Yeah, I mean
• 46:49
  like unscripted, yeah, unscared Like to me, this is actual reality TV
• 46:53
  that every every week we have a new episode and you don't know, you
• 46:58
  don't know if the opposing team's quarterback is going to get knocked out on the
• 47:00
  first series, you don't know and so and so. As a result,
• 47:06
  this is real, real reality TV. So I just kind of sit there,
• 47:08
  watch it and see how the whole thing on food And you're one hundred
• 47:12
  percent right. That's what makes it's both to me, what makes this time
• 47:15
  of year fun when you can do those things we just did and take this,
• 47:19
  Okay, if this happens in the movie him here and ye pop c
• 47:22
  J. Donaldson out in the flat for click, you can do all that
• 47:23
  coupled with really nobody knows bleep. Yeah, nobody knows bleep. But but
• 47:30
  but you can't but you know, scenario and the staff guys, I mean
• 47:32
  we say this all the time there. If they were sitting here and giving
• 47:36
  you a one hundred percent honest conversation, they'd say the same thing too.
• 47:38
  For a lot of the reasons, Tony, that just said, with the
• 47:40
  injuries, you don't know what's happening, and you gotta put these guys in
• 47:43
  game situations and see what happens. Yeah, that's what makes this fun.
• 47:45
  That's why we anticipate and look forward to. I mean, how many coaches
• 47:47
  have we talked to through the years, were either this time of a year
• 47:51
  before their season is about to begin, They'll say, I'll tell you one
• 47:54
  thing we'll be able to do. You know, they'll say this, and
• 47:55
  the seasons over you go like, well, didn't happen? They don't know.
• 48:00
  Sometimes they think and they to their best the ability. They think it's
• 48:04
  gonna happen for whatever reasons, it doesn't. You guys ready for a little
• 48:07
  healing. Yep, Oh my gosh, look at all these here's a lot
• 48:30
  a great song, isn't it a great song? Nice song? Where's he
• 48:35
  gone? By the way? Disappeared? You any idea where SOB is witness
• 48:38
  protection? You probably made it mad when you attack the insurance industry. You
• 48:43
  think that's what it was. I'd an insurance that way, accountants some of
• 48:49
  a gun. You might be right, Hey, SOB, check in with
• 48:52
  us if you would just let us know you're all right, I would like
• 48:57
  another song because I got another guy that sings music for a living that might
• 49:01
  be interested in taking over. Wow, that was less about you're concerned about
• 49:08
  KAREDI up there being the TV networks had listen had a wonderful consolidated right there,
• 49:15
  just through sob in the river, right, so it's out there busting
• 49:16
  his button, KAREDI just ran him over. Well, you gotta produce if
• 49:20
  you want to be on this three guys team. Had a great conversation.
• 49:23
  Fantastic musician Charles Wesley Godwin. Oh yeah, he attended Mountaineer practice this morning.
• 49:30
  Spoke to the team, did he Yeah, spoke to the team during
• 49:34
  mid practice break, and we're just sitting there talking. I've known Charles since
• 49:37
  he was just a young little guy. He's the same age as uh,
• 49:40
  you know, in the range of my kids, and so I knew him
• 49:44
  literally elementary basketball in Morgantown High and all that stuff. And he offered to
• 49:49
  me, Yeah, he offered to me. He said, you know,
• 49:52
  I don't miss an episode of three. And I said, seriously, do
• 49:55
  he goes? Yeah, he goes, because you know, I'm out,
• 49:58
  I'm touring, I'm out and around he goes it's the only why I keep
• 50:00
  my connection. He loves he still lives here. Yeah, he's across the
• 50:02
  river over in West of course. Yeah, and it's a longtime residence of
• 50:07
  a Yeah yeah. So um so, Neil brought him out to speak to
• 50:14
  the team. He is going to perform at the stadium at a halftime with
• 50:20
  the Mountaineer marching band of the homecoming game. Okay, that'd be cool.
• 50:24
  And he's going to sing his song que Country Roads. So he is touring
• 50:30
  right now with Luke really yeah he is. That's big. He opens for
• 50:37
  Luke Bryan. He's on. He leaves tomorrow going to Minnesota where the Timberwolves
• 50:40
  play, and he's gone for the rest of the month. And so it's
• 50:45
  he was telling me today it's the first time he's going to perform in a
• 50:46
  circle, a circular stage, in the round. In the round, we
• 50:51
  call that in the industry. I know what it's called. I was kind
• 50:52
  of helping people find in the round. Check it's going to be on a
• 51:00
  circles, gonna be on a big circle. Good to have Quincy Jones with
• 51:02
  us here. And uh so he's gonna perform in the round, he said,
• 51:10
  a circle it's gonna try to I paint the picture. You performing in
• 51:15
  the round. They know you don't have to say it's a circle. Charles
• 51:17
  gave me an indication he'll be performing. I don't know that in the round.
• 51:22
  I need in the round. But listen, but listen to this.
• 51:25
  There's more to this. I'm putting on concert tickets. There's more to this.
• 51:29
  Okay. He told me he's performing down in Greenboro County. Um hoppy,
• 51:35
  there's a big event coming up, drug anti drug concert, um something
• 51:40
  big. He's a performed. Told me he's wearing an efforting T shirt.
• 51:47
  I love it, guy, I said, seriously, dude. He goes,
• 51:51
  yeah, I got it, man, he said, I'm wearing it.
• 51:53
  Oh, it's awesome. You get the gold of the blue? Did?
• 51:55
  He said? He didn't say effort? I mean, how many people
• 51:58
  are gonna look at that and go no one, Well that could be it?
• 52:01
  Think about this. Will you give us a shout out? Well?
• 52:05
  Probably, but listen. I don't want to beg but all of it.
• 52:07
  He's got fans all over the country now right probably in different parts of the
• 52:09
  world. What if they see that T shirt and they go like, how
• 52:13
  do I get one of those Charleston Drops and Charles Dropson episode eight hundred dot
• 52:16
  com on them aren't boys wanting what to do? And they're in shipping and
• 52:20
  delivery? All right, let's get serious right now. All right, Good
• 52:23
  morning, Tony Braden Hoppy. This is Brian boll Avid. Three guys listener.
• 52:28
  You guys are awesome. I'm ready to invite you to our annual fund
• 52:31
  raiser dinner that we have coming up twenty fourth of August at the Green Turtle
• 52:37
  at Deep Creek Lake. We've got a foundation called the wug W that in
• 52:42
  any eleven years has raised over one point three million dollars for youth organizations in
• 52:45
  Garrett County, Maryland. You can check us out at wug WU golf dot
• 52:51
  org. Here's the story on this. For the past several years, we've
• 52:54
  always brought a large group of Garrett County young folks for a basketball game.
• 52:58
  Last year was Oklahoma halftime game free throws after the game. Over four hundred
• 53:01
  came out last year, some of these kids first time out of Garrett County.
• 53:07
  The organization founded upon the sudden passing of our two year old son,
• 53:10
  Landon Bull during the two thousand and six WVU versus Marshall football game from su
• 53:17
  DC sudden unexplained death in childhood while my wife and I were at the game.
• 53:23
  But since then, we have distributed over five hundred thousand children's books in
• 53:30
  his memory in Garrett County as well as started and run a youth basketball league
• 53:34
  and given to over seventy youth organizations in the county. Dayshawan Butler is planning
• 53:38
  to attend the event and we would love to have you guys as our honored
• 53:40
  guest as well if you want to slip over that night. Thanks in advanced
• 53:45
  for your consideration. We are WVU strong in Garrett County and by the way,
• 53:47
  Tony, I'm a CPA by trade, so being careful with the accountant
• 53:54
  jabs. Thanks again for considering. And I know you guys are very busy,
• 53:58
  so I did right back to him, and obviously we're super tied up
• 54:02
  and right during that stretch is we're doing sports line and it's crazy time.
• 54:07
  But I said I would do this, that I would read this, and
• 54:09
  so someone out there, if this touches your heart, let me hit you
• 54:14
  with that website again and if you want to get involved, it's wugwugulf dot
• 54:19
  org wugw golf dot org and that would be an absolutely fantastic organization to get
• 54:29
  involved with and good for day Sean to be heading out there. So thank
• 54:34
  you very much. Glad he didn't take too much offense to the accountant.
• 54:38
  You're lucky. All I said is that accountants always seem surprised every year that
• 54:43
  taxes are doing in April, and they lose their mind. That's all I
• 54:45
  said. They run around that. Do you know what taxes are do?
• 54:49
  Yeah, it happens every year, Mitch from Buchanon. By the way,
• 54:52
  the days are getting shorter. You know what they'll come back from. I
• 54:55
  come back. I came back from Parkersburg the other night. I come back
• 54:59
  from par about come back from down route. I'll tell you a couple of
• 55:01
  things surprised me. Two things that surprised me on my way back Saturday night.
• 55:06
  Yeah, from Parkersburg. How light it was, how late, How
• 55:07
  light it was, how late? Dude, four cops, four cops sitting
• 55:15
  in the median on the way up. Were you doing okay? Yeah?
• 55:20
  I was doing fine. I thought they got me on my way down there.
• 55:22
  But he didn't. He didn't come and be four cops just sitting lights
• 55:27
  off and dead slap in the middle. I'm going, like I told Joan,
• 55:29
  I said to the wife, I said, this never happens. This
• 55:31
  thing's normally like a like a like a testing zone for a Daytona five hundred
• 55:36
  at fifty just asking you. Now, that's where I got into trouble with
• 55:38
  Coach Stu. That you did. Thank god I had Stu with me,
• 55:40
  right you did, probably wouldn't have my lefe. How fast were you going?
• 55:45
  I mean I was exceeding the speed limit. I mean at Coach's behest.
• 55:49
  He had to get back, so I was going. I've told the
• 55:51
  story before. He got me out of two speeding tickets within like a mile
• 55:57
  and a half, right and a half. If if he played this Stu
• 56:05
  card he played, well, no he did. He did. He didn't
• 56:07
  have to. I mean they he introduced himself high could Stewart here was slow?
• 56:13
  Now young brand not Young Brad's fault was young bread. Mitch from Buchannon,
• 56:20
  Oh go ahead, I'm sorry, Mitch from Buchanan. Check him back
• 56:23
  in and after my summer hiatus. One observation. One suggestion for you clowns
• 56:28
  observation Tony, you say, Texter before every text as if it's going to
• 56:31
  be anything different. It's literally textual healing. We know it's a texter,
• 56:37
  almost like when Alex Trebek would say answer before reading the answer in jeopardy.
• 56:42
  Okay, I have a defense of you on that. Thank you. It's
• 56:45
  a it's the separator, right, it's to separate. So's the text singing
• 56:49
  and not you sing. Yeah, anyway, that's fine. Suggestion you guys
• 56:52
  want to get on a boat and actually move and enjoy kirchivel. I told
• 56:55
  you guys a long time ago. They do beer cruises at Stonewall Resort all
• 57:00
  the time. Double decker, giant pontoon, room for lots of folks.
• 57:06
  Great time to actually enjoy the water while throwing back some bruise and meeting your
• 57:09
  fans. Just clear the date with me first, please, and thanks AnyWho.
• 57:14
  Glad to have you all back on a regular schedule. Let's effort the
• 57:16
  beer. Where in the hell did he go? We haven't gone anywhere.
• 57:19
  What's he talking about? Regular schedule? We're in here Sundays. I mean
• 57:22
  we're putting together right, We're making we're laying bricks down on Sunday afternoons here
• 57:27
  all summer long. Where's he been? Mitch? Mitch Texter, Hey,
• 57:39
  three Guys Peace six listener, First time Texter. I'm listening to the Quincy
• 57:45
  interview while driving my family from Cincinnati to Glade Springs last weekend for a little
• 57:49
  East Coast wide reunion. Kids watching a movie, wife reading a book.
• 57:52
  So I decided to be a great time to catch up on Three Guys.
• 57:55
  I was immediately informed by my lovely bride that the sound of the guys talking
• 58:00
  was annoying and had to be put headphones on while I was chauffeured my family
• 58:05
  through Appalachia. Meanwhile, I enjoyed Quincy talking weird football and his cousin Art.
• 58:14
  I was a freshman when Art was a senior. I was a senior.
• 58:15
  Quincy was a sophomore. Or blessed with great coaches, many great athletes,
• 58:19
  except for my senior year ninety six. Quincy had a knee that kept
• 58:22
  him out most of the season, but I think it was probably best for
• 58:25
  his long term aspirations to stay away. Still a long held belief twenty six
• 58:30
  years later that if he could have been healthy, we would have at least
• 58:32
  won one more game and raised our record to two and eight in the long
• 58:37
  celebrated history of Weird Football. I take some pride in the fact that when
• 58:39
  my brother and I were captains of the weird Football team, we were combined
• 58:44
  one and nineteen. A nice family legacy, certainly something to look forward to.
• 58:49
  Looking forward to episode eight hundred ps. The kercheval is fantastic and look
• 58:53
  forward to spreading it to Cincinnati this fall. Signed by Ryan via Northern Kentucky.
• 59:00
  He's Cincinnati and weirdon. Thank you Ryan, Thank you Ry. Hey
• 59:04
  fellas, this is Madden Georgia. Listened to the Garrett Green episode. He
• 59:08
  was great. Sounds like a comfortable, confident could be a big year from
• 59:13
  him. Love the fact that he doesn't have feathers like a Brian shrimp eating
• 59:15
  flamingo. You all are a hoot. To keep it up, guys,
• 59:19
  love the show well. Garrett ran over during that breaking practice to say hello
• 59:22
  to Charles Wesley. He's got him on his playlist. He knew who he
• 59:25
  was. Yeah, Texter, he did mention you, by the way,
• 59:30
  Garrett did. I said, hey, I said the numbers were really good
• 59:34
  on that show, and he said yeah. I had to keep my boy
• 59:37
  Hoppy away from him, so here's a kid in the middle of the mountaine
• 59:39
  your practice, and you're still stuck in his head a little bit. You
• 59:43
  know. I just wasn't it's that Timmy, I just wouldn't like for and
• 59:49
  I don't know Nico Markiel, but you know, we meet these guys and
• 59:52
  they handled themselves anymore so well, and you just want him to do well,
• 59:58
  you know, and he would. Wouldn't it be great because he's also
• 1:00:00
  he's just he's just good. I mean, he's good with the way he
• 1:00:04
  handled himself brand, he's good with how he answers questions. He's confident,
• 1:00:07
  but not overly cocky. I mean he would be and with all due respect
• 1:00:12
  to JT. Daniels, I mean he was just kind of aloof and kind
• 1:00:15
  of doing his own thing. And me, it would be nice to have
• 1:00:16
  somebody who's like, yeah, that'd be great if he goes out and has
• 1:00:20
  a great season. He's easy for right, thank you. Ye. And
• 1:00:23
  we had that Niko on the show. I don't think you were with us
• 1:00:25
  that day, but we had Niko in when he was when he was a
• 1:00:29
  commit before he arrived. Jared, he was great too. Yeah, he
• 1:00:31
  did a great interview. Tremendous Texter. Hey, three guys, Jared and
• 1:00:37
  Charleston. Missed you guys at the baby shower. Still waiting for an event
• 1:00:39
  in Charleston to collect that love offering. With football season approach, and I
• 1:00:43
  wanted to pose this question, which happens first West Virginia wins a league game
• 1:00:47
  or this baby makes his grand arrival The babies Dude date is ten seven.
• 1:00:52
  West Virginia will play Texas Tech and TCU in September. You gotta gotta get
• 1:00:59
  better Texas Tick win Texas Texas Tick. Do text her due yet in this
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, just finished Garrett Green's episode Great Stuff as Usual. Fudge coming Thursday
• 1:01:12
  by the way of a personal delivery to Scopes in Charleston. It'll be the
• 1:01:15
  first iteration of crunchy fudge. Hopefully you'll enjoy it. There's no fudge.
• 1:01:20
  Looking forward to a two week now greatly helps my long drives for work.
• 1:01:23
  Signed by Michael and Cloden that he's back from his Thursday Charleston trip. Have
• 1:01:28
  you seen a fudge? None? What happened, Tony? It's still around
• 1:01:34
  here? A no on all honest? What happen? It's in my fridge.
• 1:01:37
  It's in my fridge at home. Okay, well bring it. There
• 1:01:38
  were two, there's one. That's fine. That's fine. Okay, it
• 1:01:45
  is good model. Thanks for the thought. Maybe next time we'll get in
• 1:01:47
  on that. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. This is the first
• 1:01:51
  time he made it with crunchy peanut butter. Oh, wouldn't be good for
• 1:01:53
  you, wouldn't be good sweet. A lot of s blood sugar, blood
• 1:02:00
  sugar to take care of that, Texter. Tony Hoppy is coming around your
• 1:02:04
  way of thinking when it comes to being social. I love it. Go
• 1:02:06
  mountaineers. Well that's nice. It's a Greenboro County thing. Yeah, I
• 1:02:10
  brought you out of your show. You were a hit. You were a
• 1:02:14
  hit. People loved Hoppy. Hey, guys, Texter, we have an
• 1:02:17
  acquired taste. Really. Last week I spent a week vacation in Key West.
• 1:02:22
  One morning, I'm relaxing spending some time on the empty beach across my
• 1:02:25
  condo. Here. Nobody else was within several hundred yards either direction. Beach
• 1:02:30
  was so empty I felt like I was on my land in Hardy County.
• 1:02:34
  After about twenty minutes of being by myself, I heard some other people walking
• 1:02:37
  on the beach I look over to my surprise family setting up their towels.
• 1:02:40
  Guy wearing a WVU shirt. Of course he was yep, I yelled,
• 1:02:45
  let's go. He immediately answered back with mountaineers. His family and he were
• 1:02:51
  visiting from Beckley. Just amazing, only two people on the beach, West
• 1:02:55
  Virginia connection. Thanks for a great series of summer interviews, looking forward to
• 1:03:00
  shocking the world as fault Dan in Damascus, Maryland. West Virginians will fly
• 1:03:05
  the colors, they will wear the colors very much. So you've been a
• 1:03:08
  key West. You have have it to half a couple of times. So
• 1:03:10
  it's really nice. You just rolled your eyes that you don't like. No,
• 1:03:15
  no, no, it's it's it's a fascinating places. It's kind of
• 1:03:19
  bohemian, excuse me, kind of bohemian, which is interesting. Um,
• 1:03:24
  yeah, I like it. I like it there. Okay, the food's
• 1:03:28
  really good. I hear the fish and all that stuff's good. Huh.
• 1:03:31
  Texter Max, who was in Iowa City now in Scottsdale, Arizona. I
• 1:03:37
  think conference teams all conference. Yeah, one of our neighbors. Yeah,
• 1:03:43
  I think Mountaineer Nations should be incredibly happy that we've got a seat at the
• 1:03:46
  table. We may have a smaller chair compared to the SEC in Big Ten,
• 1:03:50
  but we still have a chance to make some noise. Nashly, we
• 1:03:52
  can all ask. That's all we can ask for. Honestly, However,
• 1:03:55
  I'd like to add something to all this realignment talk. The big fish.
• 1:03:59
  No one's talk about Notre Dame. To me, they're the biggest catch out.
• 1:04:02
  They're sure they don't have their own sure they have their own deal with
• 1:04:05
  NBC. However, all this talk about bringing more teams with the Big ten
• 1:04:08
  also needs to be viewed through a prism. How will this help get Notre
• 1:04:12
  Dame or force Notre Dame to join? A lot of smoke and mirrors going
• 1:04:15
  on by the other conferences, My gut feeling is that Washington Oregon talk is
• 1:04:19
  somewhat of a farce to get Dominoes to fall and help them catch their long
• 1:04:24
  coveted prize, Notre Dame. Well, who's this guy's name? Max didn't
• 1:04:29
  age? Well, Max, they be in, They be in. Tell
• 1:04:33
  Brad Asu does have a lot of fans. He mentioned they didn't on sports
• 1:04:38
  Line. They are just hitting bottled Blonde and old town Scottsdale or a pool
• 1:04:43
  party in mid October. If you lived here, you'd understand it takes an
• 1:04:46
  unreal Arizona State team to pack the stands. But they do watch good Yeah,
• 1:04:55
  not in the stadium. Does the ad go to the game? No,
• 1:04:58
  he doesn't know. Hey, three guys, You guys make the point
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  that the most successful West Virginia teams need to have pro caliber talent. If
• 1:05:06
  you had to put a number on it, how many NFL players around this
• 1:05:10
  roster heading to this season? John and Phillipsburg, New Jersey? Thank you,
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  Thank you, John, John. It's just not West Virginia. Any
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  college team, you gotta have pros if you want to win the highest level.
• 1:05:21
  Three no more more fourn Okay, two offensive linemen, more Donaldson,
• 1:05:30
  more offensive linemen. Four offensive linemen. Talk to a guy, Talk to
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  a guy. Last four he thinks there's a chance. There's four offensive current
• 1:05:38
  four current offensive lineman would have a chance. It'll have a chance. Three
• 1:05:44
  okay, but at least at least two probably three, three for sure,
• 1:05:48
  three for sure three Nest Frasier and Wyatt Milem three for sure have legitimate chances.
• 1:05:56
  Okay. How many others in the one more alignment? I don't know.
• 1:05:59
  Which lineman he was fer into if he sees a baby out there that
• 1:06:01
  he thinks is going to be really good. Um, and then C J.
• 1:06:05
  Donaldson has a chance, got a chance? I mean running backs are
• 1:06:11
  not in demand. I mean I understand Texter Charlie from Midlothian, where's he
• 1:06:18
  man Scope spreads and hobster here? I am look at this my episode eight
• 1:06:26
  hundred efforting T shirt is I continue to play the Kroger fuel points gamification while
• 1:06:30
  filling up the wife's car. So he's got the efforting T shirt on there
• 1:06:35
  and he's going back and forth between the pumps ps. With all due respect,
• 1:06:40
  do you think Gomark got the idea for their fuel points gamification from any
• 1:06:43
  of my previous posts? Probably not, But it's good to see you.
• 1:06:48
  We're in the shirt. Thank you, Charlie. Charlie. He's just he's
• 1:06:53
  just like gassing up the neighborhood. There. He runs a telethon at the
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  pump. Texter rank WUVU one through five football and basketball with the PAC twelve
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  editions. So you got four new schools. Where do you rank West Virginia
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  football among the five? They're not They're not one. Utah's one your other
• 1:07:23
  picks, they're I would put them Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado. I
• 1:07:29
  mean all kind of mixed in that brad that five win, seven win area
• 1:07:32
  right for this particular year, next year or traditionally traditionally top. Traditionally you're
• 1:07:41
  at the top if you're West Virginia football, Yeah, but not basketball.
• 1:07:45
  He'd be two yo all time. Okay, Hi, guys, Texter,
• 1:07:51
  I'm not sure if there's a wage you're on. Nico's passing yards available for
• 1:07:55
  his first game in Tempe, but I'm taking the over. Sitting down here
• 1:08:00
  on the West coast talking to friends of these Pac twelve schools, I do
• 1:08:02
  insurance, so not much work gets done. I just wanted to pass along
• 1:08:06
  a genuine excitement and interest I'm seeing as to the news conference. I think
• 1:08:11
  each of the new Big twelve schools fits in terms of fan base, and
• 1:08:14
  I generally cannot wait to bring my son to Mountaineer games each year without having
• 1:08:16
  to make the three to five hour flight east. I promise WVU Nation they
• 1:08:21
  will like what they find in Boulder, Tempe and Tucson. Do not do
• 1:08:30
  not not sell Salt Lake. I'll tell you what I like. Beautiful I'll
• 1:08:35
  tell you what about Salt Lake. I would fly in an airplane to Salt
• 1:08:40
  Lake to eat in Voltaire's restaurant, really downtown salt Lake. Voltaire, Oh
• 1:08:46
  I can. I'd get back on the plan and fly home. Is that
• 1:08:49
  good? I like to go? I've never been. I'd like to.
• 1:08:53
  I've been to the other school's locations. I'd like to. It's a it's
• 1:08:56
  an it's it's it's breathtaking birthday. Well, the nice thing is when that
• 1:09:01
  pod system comes into play. Since you've got two schools right in that area,
• 1:09:04
  maybe you just make one big trip out there. You'll have a full
• 1:09:08
  week out there. Just go to training camp maybe in Denver in the week
• 1:09:12
  in between, like teams did the green bars, get ready, get ready
• 1:09:15
  for the get ready for the elevation. Yeah, just stay out Well,
• 1:09:16
  I mean't that what teams do when they come East forty nine ers. They
• 1:09:19
  go to the play and then they go back to the green bar and they
• 1:09:21
  play again. So on that pod system comes in, you just go out
• 1:09:25
  there, just go to go to Utah for a couple of weeks or being
• 1:09:28
  like Baseball West Coast Swing, Yeah, play I got three games in Colorado,
• 1:09:33
  How does the basketball tournament work? How do you do that? How
• 1:09:39
  do you do sixty teams? Or how do you do sixteen post on?
• 1:09:42
  How many do we have in the big, big, big set year fourteen
• 1:09:45
  two didn't go or sixteen and two didn't go? You don't think people go.
• 1:09:48
  I don't know. Otherwise you're gonna start on Monday or Tuesday. Yeah,
• 1:09:53
  not everybody gets in, which you know me Goody can't all get in
• 1:09:56
  more games? Branhamall in more games? Continuing those two playing games at at
• 1:10:00
  campus location in Kansas City? No. Yeah, And so that's the other
• 1:10:03
  thing I thought of, does Kansas City GEEP to get to keep the tournament?
• 1:10:06
  Kansas is nervous there at home for home court advantage about to go away.
• 1:10:11
  I'm gonna go out to the Utah Jazz Stadium because you got more.
• 1:10:14
  You got more our conference members and Utah than any other state outside of Texas.
• 1:10:19
  I know, Benny in the base. Now not to Salt Lake.
• 1:10:27
  Go the Jazz facility. Is it available in Mars? Send send the Jazz
• 1:10:30
  on an East coast swing. Go out there and played the Big twelfth tournament.
• 1:10:32
  And this is how crazy I got to get recruited Now, this is
• 1:10:38
  a crazy Rod statue out there and everything right, medium room named after hot
• 1:10:41
  Rod, got head out there, Utah blood Tony. This is how crazy
• 1:10:45
  it has got. Let me think about this. In the course of twenty
• 1:10:48
  years, we will go from you remember the awesome times you used to have
• 1:10:54
  the Big East Tournament in New York at the Garden, and we're gonna be
• 1:10:57
  sitting out in Tucson. Yeah, I'll do respect, sure, Texter.
• 1:11:03
  This guy continues, We're fortunate to be in a position to watch realignment take
• 1:11:06
  place and not be part of their right realignment. Props to WUVU, Props
• 1:11:12
  to Commissioner your mark in the Big twelve for pulling this off. We seem
• 1:11:15
  to be in a lucky position for now. Wishing your best, love the
• 1:11:17
  show. See on the West coast. Benny in the Bay Area. Probably
• 1:11:20
  not his real name, probably not his relian. You know one other thing
• 1:11:24
  we hadn't talked about there, and there's some starting already to talk about what
• 1:11:27
  bull tie ins come back to the league because you got you got some pretty
• 1:11:30
  attractibles. Does the Holiday Bowl come into it to a mix? We've said
• 1:11:33
  a lot times we yeah, love that particular ball again there's there's some different,
• 1:11:38
  maybe exciting bull ties coming into this. They're you know, mentioned your
• 1:11:42
  Mark and WU President Gordon Gee happens to know or have hired so many people
• 1:11:50
  associated with these schools, like people at Colorado, you know, keep people
• 1:11:56
  there and don't underestimate his contacts with these schools, and he's been a principal
• 1:12:01
  player in this um in what this league's going through right now. Texter,
• 1:12:08
  long time, I did hope the eleven pm West Coast Mountain times on whatever
• 1:12:13
  time zone it is, Big twelve won't figure that out for about three decades.
• 1:12:15
  Hope that there's not too many of those. I don't want to be
• 1:12:18
  standing up to eleven pm Eastern tip right now, though, the Big twelve
• 1:12:23
  offices, Big twelve offices going nuts, going, what do we do we
• 1:12:27
  have four times? Yeah, no way minutes in the Pacific time zone from
• 1:12:31
  Arizona depends on what time of the year. I think they do some weird
• 1:12:35
  stuff. See that's legitimately confusing. I think they do some weird stuff,
• 1:12:39
  like certain parts, every one of those ones kind of like one of those
• 1:12:41
  parts. I mean, we need some Arizona education here. Long time listener,
• 1:12:45
  first time texter or everything going crazy and conference shake up. My mind
• 1:12:47
  goes to don Neil an episode where he was the main force that took care
• 1:12:53
  of West Virginia again. Neilan is such an amazing man and mountaineer through and
• 1:12:58
  through. I know my opinion Union doesn't matter that much, but he should
• 1:13:01
  have his statue in front of the stadium and his name on the stadium.
• 1:13:05
  I would hate to think of where WVU athletics would be without Donnie Neeling.
• 1:13:13
  Hey, tons of true stuff, right, So here you go. This
• 1:13:15
  is gonna that when this happened, somebody in the Big twelve office at the
• 1:13:20
  top of their headges blew off Arizona time zones, Mountain standard time all year
• 1:13:26
  most of the state, and mountain time. I knew it. Technically all
• 1:13:31
  of Arizona observes mountain time, but whether that's mountain daylight saving daylight time or
• 1:13:36
  mounts a standard time depends on the time of year and where you are.
• 1:13:42
  That's what I thought. So nobody really ever knows what time it is?
• 1:13:45
  Roughly what time you got? Does anybody know what's a Chicago song? Right
• 1:13:48
  time? It is excellent? Plus you're right, I mean, if you
• 1:13:54
  play for once every few years. You play Arizona because you have to play
• 1:13:58
  at night because it's so hot in the game starts at seven, so it
• 1:14:00
  starts at eleven Eastern, ten or nine or you know what it is for
• 1:14:03
  basketball games late? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, jeez, I have
• 1:14:09
  to move our studios to Utah. Texter says dear three guys. In terms
• 1:14:12
  of conference realignment, I don't even think of it as adding certain teams anymore.
• 1:14:15
  It's about what time zones did you add? Are you capable of managing
• 1:14:19
  the promos for those games? The Big twelve could barely comprehend Eastern times,
• 1:14:24
  so they went ahead and added three more from the Mountain time zone. Why
• 1:14:28
  do I have a feeling they'll put a promo out for a WVU game,
• 1:14:30
  I'll tune in at the appropriate time only to find out the game is over
• 1:14:34
  in West Virginia lost in the Mountain time zone at Arizona State at nine am,
• 1:14:40
  remember the past. I'm sorry, I was thinking about starting games at
• 1:14:42
  like nine or ten in the morning. Yeah, they did a couple,
• 1:14:45
  did they. Yeah they might as well just add Hawaii get over other Signed
• 1:14:48
  by Professor Professor Vinnie. It's good, Vinny let's keep going, Let's go
• 1:14:56
  to Hawaii. UM, let me let me send out the occasional reminder if
• 1:15:02
  we could. Let's try to condense the amount of text in the text,
• 1:15:10
  because it decreases your chance of getting it read fair. At first day,
• 1:15:15
  we were talking about they say that nicely enough so it didn't come across as
• 1:15:20
  being mean. Keep it tight, keep it tight. And we were talking
• 1:15:25
  about going an hour today. Yeah, we kind of peed that one away,
• 1:15:28
  Hoppy, we're heading towards ninety minutes. I'll do this one. Not
• 1:15:31
  going to read any more long ones. Hello friends, I'd like to take
• 1:15:35
  a moment to talk about a subject that the highly intelligent and respectable Hoppy and
• 1:15:40
  Bread have continued to try to stay away from. But yet here we are
• 1:15:44
  again because someone mister, oh I shot a sleeping pig now, so I'm
• 1:15:47
  a hunter, keeps bringing it back up. So let me just mention the
• 1:15:51
  things that have happened since Tony has mocked our red eyed winged friend. So
• 1:15:57
  he's talking about moth Man here. He said, these aren't in order.
• 1:16:00
  Basketball team loses first round. Baseball team went to home run Derby All Stars
• 1:16:05
  to Bad News Bears and not the original movie Our Hall of Fame basketball coach
• 1:16:11
  loses his mind. That's all I'm gonna say. Number four Hoppy has a
• 1:16:14
  vacation ruined by a freak high ankle sprain needed surgery. Five Brad has barely
• 1:16:18
  been on his pontoon. Six women's coach leaves after an awesome year and doesn't
• 1:16:24
  even leave a note. That's true. Seven Best Virginia loses to those Marshal
• 1:16:30
  guys. He called him chumps. I'm not going to call him jumps.
• 1:16:31
  I'm sure there is more, but I think I've made my point. Tony,
• 1:16:34
  you need to sacrifice a goat or bake him some brownies or something and
• 1:16:39
  get them to point pleasant before football season and don't mention him again. But
• 1:16:44
  for the real love of what y'all do Stephen and Morgantown. So apparently he's
• 1:16:48
  has been a rough run fairly, he's a little upset Markman Texter. The
• 1:16:58
  number may seem odd at first, but I would love to see the big
• 1:17:00
  twelve eventually expand. In nineteen in basketball, you could you could do a
• 1:17:05
  true round robin eighteen league games home and away with each school every other year.
• 1:17:11
  Football nine league games you could play each team alternating home and away every
• 1:17:14
  two years, so that in four years, each school plays every other school
• 1:17:18
  home and away. Nineteen might be a ridiculous number, but honestly sixteen is
• 1:17:21
  also. That's as close as you can get to the perfect round robin big
• 1:17:26
  twelve years since West Virginia, Texter, But nineteen might be a ridiculous,
• 1:17:30
  but honestly, I mean, is any number ridiculous, Texter, I'm astounded
• 1:17:40
  so many WV fans are excited for the ACC to implode so we can potentially
• 1:17:45
  add Pitt in Virginia Tech. Why let them suffer? Were they clamoring for
• 1:17:50
  West Virginia to come into the ACC when the Big East was over? PS,
• 1:17:55
  Senator, don't let scopes bully you about your coffee order. Black coffee
• 1:18:00
  is great, but different flavors in your coffee are great too, Signed by
• 1:18:02
  Evan and Charleston. Thank you. Yeah, when the Big East was struggling,
• 1:18:06
  I mean Syracuse and Boston College and Pitt just like, oh yeah,
• 1:18:11
  they give us a finger. Yeah absolutely, Texter. Guys, you'all be
• 1:18:15
  talking about this obviously and for some time, so I thought i'd share my
• 1:18:19
  thought. Okay, so college football and basketball are now pro sports. No
• 1:18:25
  denying that people will come to that mindset. So proud of your mark.
• 1:18:28
  He did it and it's not yet done. Next steps add Connecticut and Gonzaga
• 1:18:33
  as basketball only members. Separate media deals for football basketball attract BC, Pitt,
• 1:18:41
  Georgia Tech, and Duke to the Big twelve. Florida State and Clemson
• 1:18:45
  go at SEC ACC collapses. Miami should be in the mix somewhere because of
• 1:18:49
  their media area. Can't figure out where they may go. Maybe them instead
• 1:18:53
  of BC to the Big twelve now days. Oh and by the way,
• 1:19:01
  new conference names are just around the quarter or any guesses. I have no
• 1:19:04
  idea Big nineteen. I don't know. I don't know what the hector and
• 1:19:06
  called this stuff. The media deals I'm talking about are huge. They'll shortly
• 1:19:11
  eclipse the NBA and NHL. Likely that each conference will have a set weekday
• 1:19:15
  schedule. Big twelve plays Wednesdays. Thursday be the most valuable day. SEC
• 1:19:19
  gets Tuesday, Big twelve, Big Ten fight over Wednesday, and basketball media
• 1:19:25
  deal will be huge, larger than any other in football. Fifteen years.
• 1:19:28
  This is in fifteen years, college basketball will be more popular than college football.
• 1:19:33
  I don't know what you're basing that off of jan from Chicago, originally
• 1:19:39
  from Morgantown. Texter Gentleman, quick conference chaos thought, Oregon and Washington currently
• 1:19:47
  thankful to Big ten life raft? How long before it becomes a memory?
• 1:19:51
  Watching Purdue and Rutgers in usc getting seventy million a year when they get thirty
• 1:19:56
  five million would seem to get old before the Big ten media writes expire.
• 1:20:00
  M Texter, Hey, three guys, this is the only appropriate short to
• 1:20:11
  wear on a Monday morning as one starts a new work week. Let's go
• 1:20:15
  there, you go, effort Brandon and Barrackville. Hello, thanks Brandon,
• 1:20:19
  well done. Texter, Hey, three guys. With Hoppies new commentary and
• 1:20:26
  comparing conference realignment to the Donner Party and cannibalism, what's the overunder for cannibalism?
• 1:20:31
  References from now until episode eight hundred one point five seem good. Line
• 1:20:36
  moved significantly when Hoppy already mentioned it today He's already at one. Yeah,
• 1:20:41
  so that took that live line on the move. Text your money line,
• 1:20:49
  Texter p One Jennings, Oh yeah, I was listening to sports Line on
• 1:20:55
  Saturday when Scopes mentioned test version the podcaster when Hopes mentioned Don Nielan's involvement with
• 1:21:00
  the move to the Big twelve. I paused sports Line, went back to
• 1:21:05
  the July thirty first, nineteen nineteen, Yeah twenty nineteen Three Guys podcast,
• 1:21:14
  and I listened to it again. I highly highly recommend every three Guys listener
• 1:21:18
  to go back and listen again and thank coach Nielan for his pivotal role in
• 1:21:24
  getting WUVU to the Big twelve. By the way, I'm in favor of
• 1:21:29
  putting together a gift basket from Gomart for the Arizona State folks when they have
• 1:21:33
  to come to Morgantown. Just a thought, why did you start to slip
• 1:21:38
  into an impersonated by the way. By the way, why would that athletic
• 1:21:43
  director say that? Did I just heard the quote? I mean I saw
• 1:21:45
  the quote? Is there something else? Did you hear him say it?
• 1:21:47
  That have not heard? He had? It had to just be an attempt
• 1:21:50
  at humor and meaning it was a long way away and it just it just
• 1:21:54
  missed. And he didn't think how that would land had to be couldn't have
• 1:21:58
  been a legitimate criticism Amorga. I just couldn't, I mean, just couldn't
• 1:22:01
  have been. Had to just be an ill fated attempted humor. I would
• 1:22:05
  think billboard, billboard, I mean locker room, the two for three years
• 1:22:11
  from now. You know what he said three years ago Texter Mike from Oakdale,
• 1:22:18
  Pennsylvania walkedill or familiar with Oakdale or up the road beat near Pittsburgh.
• 1:22:26
  Okay, beautiful this time of year. Fine people in western Pennsylvania, A
• 1:22:31
  lot of them ountain her fans. Sure, Mike's a wonderful man, hard
• 1:22:39
  worker, scopes, spreads and SuDS. People are clueless if they think the
• 1:22:46
  ACC is where West Virginia needs to be right now. Yes, it would
• 1:22:50
  be great to have built in regional rival reason less travel. But for the
• 1:22:54
  first time in the realignment craziness, we're on the winning side. College sports
• 1:22:59
  have changed dramatically, and West Virginia is in a safe, profitable spot.
• 1:23:03
  No need to join the rocky boat that is the ACC. Sit back,
• 1:23:09
  enjoy the ride, and support the mountaineers once again. Mike in Oakdale,
• 1:23:14
  Pennsylvania. But if we've learned anything through all this is that you don't know
• 1:23:19
  I mean again, I go back to the Donner party, like, Okay,
• 1:23:24
  we didn't get eaten today, but you know what somebody might get hungry
• 1:23:29
  and you know the near future, and you just yeah, you're right,
• 1:23:32
  I don't know. Just be happy to where where you are today and we'll
• 1:23:35
  get the details all figured out. I say that West Virginia and Arizona stick
• 1:23:41
  together in this regardless of what happens. There are travel partners. All right,
• 1:23:50
  We've done enough damage here, Thanks so much for being was We're gonna
• 1:23:55
  do another one this week, right THURSDAYSH Yeah, I think so you're around
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  Hoppier. I'm here, going to Bootswana. You're here here, good,
• 1:24:03
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  We had two producers. The show is so big they double producers. Banging
• 1:25:19
  Benjamin Lowman and jumping Jack Carlson though terrific. Oh jeez, are absolutely true.
• 1:25:26
  I'm gonna miss those guys when they have to go back to school.
• 1:25:28
  Yep. We're trying to talk both of them to stop going to school,
• 1:25:31
  trying to get ben to get a ged. Just give up the remaining eligibility.
• 1:25:36
  He's got one year senior year that hey, listen, we told him.
• 1:25:40
  He said, why do you go to school? What's the end game?
• 1:25:42
  Trying to get a job. Okay, fine, we'll give you a
• 1:25:45
  job right now. Start. Yeah, like five minutes ago. He's not
• 1:25:47
  budget on that. Kids, priorities all askew. We have to let him
• 1:25:53
  go. Yeah, sorry, And I don't have a degree. You don't
• 1:25:56
  have no in that jacket. Rather go back to college and hang with us
• 1:25:58
  three old guys here. I know, jacket junner, you want to go
• 1:26:00
  back to college? A stunner? Who does that? All right? We
• 1:26:04
  do that, honestly. I do that right now. Yeah, I do
• 1:26:06
  it right now. You know I might. I might do it anyway in
• 1:26:09
  a heartbeat. Help me in. We're out, so y'all be good.
• 1:26:12
  Episode four seven six over out.