Latest / Deep Transformation / Emptying the Heart of All that Obscures the Inner Beloved
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- 0:00Welcome
- 0:00to
- 0:00part
- 0:00one
- 0:01of
- 0:01our
- 0:01second
- 0:01conversation
- 0:02in
- 0:02our
- 0:03new
- 0:03Path
- 0:03of
- 0:03Love
- 0:03series
- 0:04with
- 0:04Hameed
- 0:04Ali,
- 0:05aka
- 0:05A.
- 0:06H.
- 0:06Almaas,
- 0:07where
- 0:07we
- 0:07dig
- 0:07into
- 0:07Hameed's
- 0:08latest
- 0:08book,
- 0:08the
- 0:09Inner
- 0:09Beloved.
- 0:09This
- 0:10conversation
- 0:10and
- 0:10work
- 0:10is
- 0:11extremely
- 0:11challenging,
- 0:12but
- 0:12takes
- 0:12us
- 0:12all
- 0:13the
- 0:13way
- 0:13to
- 0:13the
- 0:13realization
- 0:14of
- 0:14our
- 0:14true
- 0:15nature,
- 0:15which
- 0:15is
- 0:16love.
- 0:21Welcome
- 0:21to
- 0:22deep
- 0:22transformation,
- 0:23Self,
- 0:23Society,
- 0:24Spirit,
- 0:25life
- 0:25enhancing,
- 0:26paradigm
- 0:27rattling
- 0:27conversations
- 0:28with
- 0:28cutting
- 0:29edge
- 0:29thinkers,
- 0:29contemplatives
- 0:30and
- 0:31activists,
- 0:32Dr.
- 0:32Roger
- 0:32Walsh
- 0:32and
- 0:33John
- 0:33Dupuy.
- 0:37I'm
- 0:37Roger
- 0:37Walsh
- 0:38and
- 0:38our
- 0:38co
- 0:38host
- 0:38is
- 0:39John
- 0:39Dupuy.
- 0:40And
- 0:40today
- 0:41we
- 0:41begin
- 0:41the
- 0:41second
- 0:42dialogue
- 0:42in
- 0:43the
- 0:43H.
- 0:43Almaas
- 0:44Path
- 0:45of
- 0:45Love
- 0:45series.
- 0:47And
- 0:47this
- 0:47is
- 0:48a
- 0:48series
- 0:48in
- 0:48which
- 0:48we
- 0:49are
- 0:49working
- 0:49through
- 0:50Hameed...
- 0:50A.
- 0:51H.
- 0:51Almaas
- 0:52is
- 0:52the
- 0:52pen
- 0:52name
- 0:53Hameed
- 0:53Ali
- 0:54is
- 0:54the
- 0:54name.
- 0:54We
- 0:55are
- 0:55working
- 0:55our
- 0:55way
- 0:55through
- 0:56Hameed's
- 0:57third
- 0:57book
- 0:58in
- 0:58his
- 0:58love
- 0:58trilogy,
- 0:59which
- 0:59is
- 1:00a
- 1:00beautiful
- 1:01profound
- 1:03reflection,
- 1:04examination
- 1:05of
- 1:05the
- 1:05path
- 1:06of
- 1:06love.
- 1:07And
- 1:07it
- 1:08begins
- 1:08with
- 1:08the
- 1:08book
- 1:09Love
- 1:09Unveiled,
- 1:10which
- 1:11explores
- 1:11the
- 1:11different
- 1:12kinds
- 1:12of
- 1:13love
- 1:13that
- 1:13we
- 1:14experience
- 1:14in
- 1:15our
- 1:15usual
- 1:16lives
- 1:16and
- 1:17how
- 1:17these
- 1:17loves
- 1:18can
- 1:18open
- 1:18us
- 1:19to
- 1:19a
- 1:19deeper
- 1:20and
- 1:20divine
- 1:20love.
- 1:21The
- 1:21second
- 1:21book
- 1:22in
- 1:22the
- 1:22trilogy
- 1:22is
- 1:23Non
- 1:23Dual
- 1:24Love
- 1:25and
- 1:25that
- 1:25explores
- 1:26surprise,
- 1:26surprise,
- 1:27non
- 1:27dual
- 1:28love,
- 1:28boundless
- 1:29experience
- 1:29of
- 1:30divine
- 1:30love.
- 1:31And
- 1:32this
- 1:32is
- 1:32where
- 1:32personal
- 1:33boundaries
- 1:33dissolve.
- 1:34And
- 1:35finally
- 1:35the
- 1:35culminating
- 1:36volume
- 1:37of
- 1:37the
- 1:37trilogy
- 1:38is
- 1:38titled
- 1:39the
- 1:39Inner
- 1:40Beloved.
- 1:41And
- 1:41this
- 1:42is
- 1:42what
- 1:42we're
- 1:42exploring
- 1:43today.
- 1:44It's
- 1:44a
- 1:44really
- 1:45profound
- 1:47exploration
- 1:48of
- 1:48the
- 1:49depths
- 1:49of
- 1:50the
- 1:51more
- 1:51than
- 1:52just
- 1:52love,
- 1:52the
- 1:53path
- 1:53of
- 1:53love,
- 1:54the
- 1:54fundamental
- 1:55depths
- 1:55of
- 1:56our
- 1:56human
- 1:56nature.
- 1:57And
- 1:58this
- 1:58book
- 1:59is.
- 2:00And
- 2:00you
- 2:00say
- 2:00Hameed,
- 2:01actually
- 2:01you
- 2:02say
- 2:02this
- 2:02final
- 2:02book
- 2:03quotes
- 2:04is
- 2:04not
- 2:04simply
- 2:05about
- 2:05love,
- 2:06it's
- 2:06actually
- 2:07more
- 2:07about
- 2:07the
- 2:08way
- 2:08of
- 2:08the
- 2:08heart,
- 2:09the
- 2:10path
- 2:10that
- 2:10leads
- 2:11to
- 2:11the
- 2:11realization
- 2:12of
- 2:13the
- 2:13mystery,
- 2:14the
- 2:14ultimate
- 2:14nature
- 2:15of
- 2:15everything
- 2:16and
- 2:16the
- 2:16source
- 2:17of
- 2:17all
- 2:17that
- 2:17we
- 2:18experience,
- 2:19which
- 2:19is
- 2:19what
- 2:19you
- 2:19call
- 2:20the
- 2:20absolute.
- 2:21So
- 2:21maybe
- 2:22that's
- 2:22a
- 2:22great,
- 2:24a
- 2:24great.
- 2:24He
- 2:25didn't
- 2:25let
- 2:25you
- 2:26take
- 2:26off
- 2:26from
- 2:26there.
- 2:27Did
- 2:27you
- 2:27get
- 2:27a
- 2:27copy
- 2:28of
- 2:28the
- 2:28book
- 2:28yet?
- 2:28Not
- 2:29a
- 2:29physical
- 2:29copy.
- 2:30We
- 2:30have
- 2:30PDF
- 2:31so
- 2:31I
- 2:32have
- 2:32a
- 2:32physical
- 2:32copy
- 2:33here.
- 2:34Oh,
- 2:34wonderful.
- 2:35We
- 2:35have
- 2:35the
- 2:35PDF.
- 2:36I
- 2:36just
- 2:36got
- 2:37it
- 2:37yesterday.
- 2:38Oh,
- 2:38great.
- 2:38Congratulations.
- 2:39That's
- 2:39awesome.
- 2:40Yeah,
- 2:40I
- 2:40mean
- 2:41the
- 2:41kind
- 2:41of
- 2:42cover
- 2:42that
- 2:43(indiscernible)
- 2:44makes,
- 2:45a
- 2:45simple
- 2:46cover.
- 2:46Well,
- 2:46Hameed,
- 2:47maybe,
- 2:47maybe
- 2:48I
- 2:48can
- 2:48say
- 2:48something.
- 2:48I
- 2:49found
- 2:49this,
- 2:50this
- 2:50is
- 2:50not
- 2:50an
- 2:50easy
- 2:51book,
- 2:52especially
- 2:52the
- 2:52middle
- 2:53part.
- 2:53We
- 2:53used
- 2:53to
- 2:54say
- 2:54in
- 2:54Christianity
- 2:54is
- 2:55a
- 2:55hard
- 2:55saying.
- 2:55I
- 2:56mean
- 2:56it's
- 2:56like
- 2:56it's
- 2:57not
- 2:57just,
- 2:58you
- 2:58know,
- 2:58all
- 2:59you
- 2:59need
- 2:59is
- 2:59love
- 2:59and
- 2:59all
- 3:00it's.
- 3:00You
- 3:01gotta
- 3:01go
- 3:01through
- 3:01a
- 3:02lot.
- 3:02And
- 3:03you
- 3:03talked
- 3:04about
- 3:04using
- 3:04the
- 3:04metaphor
- 3:05of
- 3:05the
- 3:05Kaaba
- 3:06in,
- 3:06in
- 3:06Mecca,
- 3:07which
- 3:07is
- 3:07this
- 3:08ancient
- 3:08holy
- 3:09place
- 3:09that
- 3:09was
- 3:09long
- 3:10before
- 3:10Muhammad,
- 3:10but
- 3:11when
- 3:11he
- 3:12got
- 3:12there
- 3:12it
- 3:12was
- 3:12full
- 3:12of
- 3:12all
- 3:13these
- 3:13different
- 3:13idols
- 3:13and
- 3:14different
- 3:14things
- 3:15from
- 3:15these
- 3:15multiple
- 3:16gods
- 3:16and
- 3:17religions
- 3:17and
- 3:17whatnot.
- 3:18And
- 3:18he
- 3:18had
- 3:18to
- 3:19clean
- 3:19all
- 3:19that
- 3:19out
- 3:20before
- 3:20it
- 3:21made
- 3:21room
- 3:22for
- 3:24Allah,
- 3:24I
- 3:24suppose.
- 3:25And
- 3:26so
- 3:26that's
- 3:26something.
- 3:27What
- 3:27it's.
- 3:27It's
- 3:27a
- 3:27light
- 3:28our
- 3:28hearts
- 3:29in
- 3:29this
- 3:30journey,
- 3:30we
- 3:30have
- 3:30to
- 3:31get
- 3:31beyond
- 3:31all
- 3:31our
- 3:32exterior
- 3:33loves
- 3:33and
- 3:34idols,
- 3:34if
- 3:35you
- 3:35will,
- 3:35and
- 3:36things
- 3:36that
- 3:36we
- 3:36really,
- 3:37you
- 3:37know,
- 3:38care
- 3:38about
- 3:38deeply
- 3:39in
- 3:39order
- 3:39to
- 3:40empty
- 3:40ourselves,
- 3:41to
- 3:41be
- 3:42able
- 3:42to
- 3:42receive
- 3:43this
- 3:43experience,
- 3:44this
- 3:44relationship
- 3:45with
- 3:46the
- 3:46inner
- 3:46beloved.
- 3:47That's
- 3:47a
- 3:48good
- 3:48rendition
- 3:49of
- 3:49the.
- 3:49Yeah,
- 3:51a
- 3:51major
- 3:52part
- 3:52of
- 3:52the
- 3:52path
- 3:53of
- 3:53love.
- 3:54You
- 3:54know,
- 3:55most
- 3:55of
- 3:56the
- 3:56paths
- 3:57that
- 3:57have
- 3:57to
- 3:57do
- 3:58with
- 3:58discovering
- 3:59the
- 4:00inner
- 4:00nature
- 4:01has
- 4:01to
- 4:01do
- 4:01with
- 4:01emptying
- 4:03the
- 4:03consciousness
- 4:04or
- 4:04the
- 4:04mind,
- 4:05whatever.
- 4:06Here
- 4:06is
- 4:07the
- 4:07path
- 4:07of
- 4:07heart.
- 4:08So
- 4:08emptying
- 4:09the
- 4:09heart
- 4:09of
- 4:10all
- 4:10that
- 4:11fills
- 4:11it,
- 4:12occupies
- 4:12it
- 4:13until
- 4:14it
- 4:14becomes
- 4:15solely
- 4:16focus.
- 4:17And
- 4:17it's
- 4:17love
- 4:18for
- 4:18the
- 4:18inner
- 4:19truth,
- 4:19for
- 4:20the
- 4:20inner
- 4:20beloved.
- 4:21The
- 4:22heart
- 4:22knows
- 4:23that
- 4:24it
- 4:24loves
- 4:24something
- 4:25deep
- 4:26within
- 4:26itself
- 4:27and
- 4:28doesn't
- 4:29know
- 4:29exactly
- 4:29what
- 4:30it
- 4:30is,
- 4:30but
- 4:30has
- 4:30a
- 4:31feeling
- 4:31that
- 4:31there
- 4:31is
- 4:32something
- 4:32there.
- 4:33It
- 4:33loves,
- 4:33it
- 4:34longs
- 4:34for,
- 4:35yearns
- 4:35for,
- 4:36and
- 4:36it
- 4:36pins
- 4:37it
- 4:37that
- 4:37it's
- 4:38not,
- 4:38it's
- 4:39separate
- 4:39from
- 4:39it.
- 4:41So
- 4:41the
- 4:41whole
- 4:41path
- 4:42has
- 4:42to,
- 4:42with
- 4:42separation
- 4:43and
- 4:44alienation,
- 4:45the
- 4:46discontent
- 4:47and
- 4:48then
- 4:48the
- 4:48yearning,
- 4:51the
- 4:51longing
- 4:52and
- 4:52the
- 4:52love
- 4:53for
- 4:54the
- 4:54return
- 4:54to
- 4:55the
- 4:55origin
- 4:56and
- 4:57to
- 4:57the
- 4:57true
- 4:57beloved
- 4:58that
- 4:58the
- 4:58heart
- 4:59really
- 4:59wants.
- 5:00And
- 5:01of
- 5:01course,
- 5:01at
- 5:02the
- 5:02beginning
- 5:02we
- 5:02look
- 5:03for
- 5:03it
- 5:03outside,
- 5:04you
- 5:04know,
- 5:05and
- 5:05different
- 5:05thing,
- 5:06different
- 5:06people.
- 5:06And
- 5:07at
- 5:07some
- 5:07point
- 5:07we.
- 5:08We
- 5:08wise
- 5:09up,
- 5:09we
- 5:09realize,
- 5:09no,
- 5:10it's
- 5:10not
- 5:11outside.
- 5:12So
- 5:12then
- 5:13becomes
- 5:13the
- 5:13process
- 5:14of
- 5:14emptying
- 5:14the
- 5:15heart
- 5:15of
- 5:15everything
- 5:15that
- 5:16fills
- 5:16it.
- 5:16It's
- 5:17attachments,
- 5:18it's
- 5:18preferences,
- 5:19all
- 5:19the
- 5:20things
- 5:20that
- 5:21occupy
- 5:22it
- 5:22make
- 5:22it
- 5:23more
- 5:23externally
- 5:23oriented.
- 5:25Instead
- 5:25of
- 5:26looking
- 5:26for
- 5:26the
- 5:27love
- 5:27or
- 5:27looking
- 5:28for
- 5:28the
- 5:29beloved
- 5:29as
- 5:30inward
- 5:30as
- 5:31within.
- 5:32And
- 5:33that
- 5:33is
- 5:34usually.
- 5:35I
- 5:35mean,
- 5:35most
- 5:36of
- 5:36the
- 5:36path
- 5:37of
- 5:37love
- 5:37has
- 5:38to
- 5:38do
- 5:38with
- 5:38emptying
- 5:39of
- 5:39the
- 5:39heart,
- 5:40with
- 5:41love
- 5:41and
- 5:42yearning
- 5:42at
- 5:43the
- 5:43same
- 5:43time.
- 5:44Deep
- 5:44yearning,
- 5:44passion
- 5:46and
- 5:46love
- 5:46combined
- 5:47together
- 5:49to
- 5:49burn
- 5:50through
- 5:50all
- 5:52the
- 5:53idols
- 5:53which
- 5:54are
- 5:54basically
- 5:55what
- 5:56stands
- 5:57for
- 5:57the
- 5:57beloved
- 5:58that
- 5:59is
- 5:59not
- 5:59the
- 5:59beloved.
- 6:00And
- 6:01all
- 6:01people
- 6:02have
- 6:02a
- 6:02lot
- 6:02of
- 6:02things
- 6:03that
- 6:03stand
- 6:04that
- 6:04they
- 6:04love.
- 6:05It's
- 6:05normal,
- 6:05natural.
- 6:07People
- 6:07love
- 6:07many
- 6:08things
- 6:09and
- 6:09they
- 6:10love
- 6:10some
- 6:10people.
- 6:10They
- 6:10think
- 6:11it's
- 6:11the
- 6:11beloved
- 6:12for
- 6:12them
- 6:12that
- 6:13they
- 6:13want
- 6:13to
- 6:13live
- 6:14the
- 6:14rest
- 6:14of
- 6:14their
- 6:14life
- 6:15they
- 6:16love
- 6:16more
- 6:16than
- 6:16anything
- 6:16else.
- 6:17The
- 6:18path
- 6:18of
- 6:18love
- 6:18shows
- 6:19that
- 6:19it's
- 6:19not
- 6:19against
- 6:20that.
- 6:20It
- 6:20just
- 6:20said
- 6:21that's
- 6:21not
- 6:21going
- 6:22to
- 6:22give
- 6:22you
- 6:22the
- 6:23final
- 6:23contentment,
- 6:25that
- 6:25there
- 6:25is
- 6:25another,
- 6:26bigger,
- 6:26deeper,
- 6:28more
- 6:28profound
- 6:29beloved
- 6:31that
- 6:31lies
- 6:31deep,
- 6:32deep,
- 6:32deep
- 6:33within
- 6:33the
- 6:33heart.
- 6:35So
- 6:36it's
- 6:36not
- 6:37exactly
- 6:38the
- 6:38Search
- 6:38appears
- 6:39more
- 6:39like
- 6:40a
- 6:40yearning
- 6:41and
- 6:41love
- 6:42and
- 6:42emptying
- 6:43of
- 6:43the
- 6:43heart.
- 6:44So
- 6:45just
- 6:45like
- 6:45we
- 6:46can
- 6:46empty
- 6:46our
- 6:46mind,
- 6:47empty
- 6:47our
- 6:47consciousness
- 6:48to
- 6:48find
- 6:48the
- 6:48truth,
- 6:49here,
- 6:49emptying
- 6:50the
- 6:50heart
- 6:51to
- 6:51find
- 6:51the
- 6:51truth
- 6:52of
- 6:52the
- 6:52heart.
- 6:53What
- 6:53you
- 6:53said
- 6:53in
- 6:53the
- 6:53beginning,
- 6:54I
- 6:54thought
- 6:54was
- 6:54helpful
- 6:55in
- 6:55our
- 6:55normal
- 6:56meditation,
- 6:56at
- 6:57least.
- 6:57As
- 6:57I've
- 6:57been
- 6:57practicing.
- 6:58We
- 6:58attempt
- 6:59to
- 6:59still
- 6:59the
- 7:00mind,
- 7:00reach
- 7:01the
- 7:01emptiness
- 7:02of
- 7:02the
- 7:02mind,
- 7:02just
- 7:03pure
- 7:03awareness.
- 7:04But
- 7:04in
- 7:04this
- 7:04practice,
- 7:05it's
- 7:05not
- 7:05the
- 7:05mind
- 7:05we're
- 7:06clearing,
- 7:06it's
- 7:06the
- 7:06heart.
- 7:08And
- 7:08that's
- 7:08kind
- 7:08of
- 7:08an
- 7:08aha
- 7:09moment
- 7:09for
- 7:09me.
- 7:10Yeah.
- 7:10I
- 7:10mean,
- 7:11it
- 7:11is
- 7:12known
- 7:12there
- 7:12is
- 7:12a
- 7:13path
- 7:13of
- 7:13love
- 7:14on
- 7:14the
- 7:14path
- 7:14of
- 7:15the
- 7:15heart.
- 7:15And
- 7:15many
- 7:15tradition
- 7:16have
- 7:16it.
- 7:17The
- 7:17bhakti,
- 7:18you
- 7:18know,
- 7:18path,
- 7:19like
- 7:19in
- 7:19India,
- 7:20and
- 7:21from
- 7:21tradition,
- 7:22based
- 7:23on
- 7:23the
- 7:24love.
- 7:24Path
- 7:25of
- 7:25love,
- 7:25like
- 7:25the
- 7:26Sufi
- 7:26path
- 7:27pretty
- 7:28much
- 7:28is
- 7:29path
- 7:29of
- 7:29love.
- 7:30Christianity.
- 7:31A
- 7:31large
- 7:31part
- 7:31of
- 7:32it
- 7:32is
- 7:32a
- 7:32path
- 7:32of
- 7:33love.
- 7:33So
- 7:33this
- 7:34one
- 7:34here
- 7:34shows
- 7:35how
- 7:35the
- 7:35path
- 7:36of
- 7:36love
- 7:36appears
- 7:37in
- 7:37this
- 7:37teaching.
- 7:38How
- 7:38it
- 7:38appeared
- 7:38to
- 7:39me,
- 7:39for
- 7:39instance.
- 7:40You
- 7:40know,
- 7:41I
- 7:41was
- 7:41also
- 7:42engaged
- 7:42in
- 7:42all
- 7:43the
- 7:43other
- 7:43ways
- 7:44of
- 7:44experiencing
- 7:45the
- 7:45truth.
- 7:45But
- 7:45there
- 7:46was
- 7:46this
- 7:46thread
- 7:46of
- 7:47the
- 7:47heart
- 7:47with
- 7:47all
- 7:48of
- 7:48them
- 7:48that
- 7:49at
- 7:49some
- 7:49point
- 7:50took
- 7:51center
- 7:51stage
- 7:52and
- 7:52revealed
- 7:53its
- 7:53secrets
- 7:54at
- 7:54different
- 7:54stages.
- 7:55You
- 7:55begin,
- 7:56Hameed,
- 7:56by
- 7:56pointing
- 7:57out
- 7:57that
- 7:58doing
- 7:58a
- 7:58kind
- 7:58of
- 7:58reframe
- 7:59on
- 7:59our
- 7:59usual
- 8:00emotional
- 8:01love
- 8:02life,
- 8:02which
- 8:02is,
- 8:03you
- 8:03use
- 8:04the
- 8:04term
- 8:04fickle,
- 8:05polygamous.
- 8:06We
- 8:07love
- 8:07you.
- 8:08We're
- 8:08attracted
- 8:09to
- 8:09many
- 8:09things
- 8:09and
- 8:10many
- 8:10people.
- 8:11And
- 8:13as
- 8:13you
- 8:13point
- 8:13out
- 8:14that
- 8:15inevitably
- 8:16there's
- 8:16a
- 8:16sense
- 8:16of
- 8:17dissatisfaction
- 8:18that
- 8:18goes
- 8:18with
- 8:18all
- 8:18of
- 8:19them.
- 8:19None
- 8:19of
- 8:19them
- 8:19are
- 8:19complete
- 8:20or
- 8:20permanently
- 8:21satisfying
- 8:21or
- 8:22whole.
- 8:23And
- 8:24you
- 8:24do
- 8:24the
- 8:25useful
- 8:25reframe
- 8:26of
- 8:26pointing
- 8:27out
- 8:27that
- 8:28this
- 8:28is
- 8:28actually
- 8:29a
- 8:29lesson
- 8:29about
- 8:31the
- 8:31limitation
- 8:32of
- 8:32any
- 8:33phenomenon
- 8:34or
- 8:35external
- 8:36object,
- 8:36and
- 8:36it's
- 8:37inherent
- 8:37inability
- 8:38to
- 8:38fully
- 8:38satisfy.
- 8:41Yeah.
- 8:41Hameed,
- 8:42does
- 8:42it
- 8:43sometimes
- 8:44happen
- 8:44that
- 8:45we.
- 8:45Maybe
- 8:45we
- 8:45get
- 8:46a
- 8:46taste
- 8:47of
- 8:47the
- 8:47inner
- 8:48beloved
- 8:49at
- 8:49an
- 8:49early
- 8:49age,
- 8:50and
- 8:50then
- 8:50it
- 8:51kind
- 8:51of
- 8:51goes
- 8:51away,
- 8:51but
- 8:51that
- 8:52keeps
- 8:52us
- 8:52yearning
- 8:53and
- 8:53looking
- 8:54for
- 8:54that
- 8:54for
- 8:55the
- 8:55rest
- 8:55of
- 8:55our
- 8:55lives.
- 8:56That
- 8:56happens
- 8:57to
- 8:57many
- 8:57people.
- 8:57Yes.
- 8:58Yeah,
- 8:58that's.
- 8:59That's
- 8:59me,
- 8:59too.
- 9:00And
- 9:00yeah,
- 9:00yeah,
- 9:01of
- 9:01course,
- 9:02you
- 9:02know,
- 9:02some
- 9:03people
- 9:03have
- 9:03a
- 9:03taste
- 9:04or
- 9:04a
- 9:05glimpse,
- 9:06you
- 9:06know,
- 9:07and
- 9:07then
- 9:07they
- 9:07can't
- 9:08forget
- 9:08it.
- 9:08And
- 9:09then
- 9:09that
- 9:09becomes
- 9:10the
- 9:10kernel
- 9:11of
- 9:11their
- 9:11inner
- 9:12search
- 9:12and
- 9:12longing.
- 9:14So,
- 9:15you
- 9:15know,
- 9:15in
- 9:15terms
- 9:16of
- 9:16the
- 9:16mind
- 9:17or
- 9:17the
- 9:18general.
- 9:19Many
- 9:19of
- 9:19the
- 9:19paths
- 9:20of,
- 9:20you
- 9:20know,
- 9:21man,
- 9:21the
- 9:22mind
- 9:22or
- 9:22knowledge
- 9:23is
- 9:24like
- 9:24one
- 9:24thing
- 9:24to
- 9:25find
- 9:25out,
- 9:25one
- 9:25thing
- 9:26to
- 9:26understand,
- 9:26one
- 9:27thing
- 9:27to
- 9:27discover,
- 9:29awakening
- 9:30to
- 9:31the
- 9:31inner
- 9:32truth.
- 9:32This
- 9:33one
- 9:33is
- 9:34wanting
- 9:34to
- 9:34find,
- 9:35wanting
- 9:36to
- 9:36become
- 9:36one
- 9:37with
- 9:38the
- 9:38inner
- 9:38beloved.
- 9:40Feeling
- 9:40something
- 9:41you
- 9:41love
- 9:41more
- 9:42than
- 9:42anything
- 9:42else,
- 9:43something
- 9:43that
- 9:43you
- 9:44love.
- 9:44And
- 9:44also
- 9:45Loves
- 9:45you
- 9:47back.
- 9:47Yes,
- 9:48mutual
- 9:49love
- 9:50that
- 9:50attracts
- 9:51the
- 9:51two
- 9:52and
- 9:53work
- 9:53through
- 9:53all
- 9:54what's
- 9:54in
- 9:54between.
- 9:56Is
- 9:56it
- 9:56possible?
- 9:57Maybe
- 9:57this
- 9:58is
- 9:58more
- 9:58integral
- 9:58thinking.
- 9:59But
- 9:59it
- 9:59came
- 9:59up
- 10:00for
- 10:00me,
- 10:00as
- 10:00you
- 10:00were
- 10:01saying,
- 10:01to
- 10:02have
- 10:02a
- 10:02second
- 10:02person
- 10:03relationship
- 10:04with
- 10:04the
- 10:04inner
- 10:04beloved.
- 10:05Like
- 10:06I
- 10:06love
- 10:06you,
- 10:07inner
- 10:07beloved
- 10:07or
- 10:08I
- 10:08love
- 10:08you
- 10:08God
- 10:09or
- 10:09however
- 10:09you
- 10:09say
- 10:10that
- 10:10in
- 10:10your
- 10:10mind.
- 10:11It's
- 10:11not
- 10:11just
- 10:11totally
- 10:12being
- 10:12it,
- 10:12but
- 10:13it's
- 10:13you're
- 10:14in
- 10:14relation
- 10:14to
- 10:14it.
- 10:15Most
- 10:15of
- 10:15the
- 10:16path
- 10:16is
- 10:16like
- 10:16that,
- 10:17okay?
- 10:17It
- 10:18begins
- 10:18like
- 10:18that
- 10:19in
- 10:19the
- 10:19middle
- 10:19of
- 10:19it.
- 10:20Only
- 10:20in
- 10:20the
- 10:20end
- 10:20of
- 10:20it
- 10:21there
- 10:22is
- 10:22the
- 10:22union
- 10:22which
- 10:23I
- 10:23call
- 10:23non
- 10:23dual
- 10:24experience
- 10:25of
- 10:25the
- 10:26beloved.
- 10:27But
- 10:27that's
- 10:28the
- 10:28end
- 10:28of
- 10:28the
- 10:28path.
- 10:29But
- 10:30for
- 10:30most
- 10:30of
- 10:30the
- 10:31path
- 10:31it's.
- 10:32As
- 10:32you
- 10:32know,
- 10:32the
- 10:32Bhakti
- 10:33path
- 10:33has
- 10:33longing
- 10:34and
- 10:34yearning
- 10:35for
- 10:35the
- 10:35beloved.
- 10:38If
- 10:38we
- 10:38read
- 10:39the
- 10:39poetry
- 10:40of
- 10:40Kabir
- 10:41or
- 10:41Rumi
- 10:42and
- 10:43many
- 10:43of
- 10:43the
- 10:43Christian
- 10:44mystics,
- 10:44it's
- 10:45all
- 10:46really
- 10:47the
- 10:47lover
- 10:47and
- 10:47beloved.
- 10:49And
- 10:49that
- 10:49is
- 10:50how
- 10:50what
- 10:51forms
- 10:52the
- 10:52path?
- 10:52There's
- 10:53a
- 10:53lover
- 10:53and
- 10:53beloved.
- 10:54And
- 10:54lover
- 10:56doesn't
- 10:57know
- 10:58where
- 10:58the
- 10:58beloved
- 10:59is.
- 10:59What's
- 10:59it
- 11:00like,
- 11:00what
- 11:00it
- 11:00feel
- 11:01like
- 11:01and
- 11:01wants
- 11:01to
- 11:01know.
- 11:02It
- 11:02wants
- 11:02to
- 11:02be
- 11:03behold,
- 11:03it
- 11:03wants
- 11:04to
- 11:05be
- 11:05with
- 11:05it
- 11:05wants
- 11:06to
- 11:07unite
- 11:08with
- 11:08it.
- 11:09I
- 11:09mean
- 11:09Christian
- 11:10tradition
- 11:11wanting
- 11:11to
- 11:11be
- 11:12one
- 11:12with.
- 11:13You
- 11:13know,
- 11:14unite
- 11:14with
- 11:15the
- 11:15inner
- 11:15beloved.
- 11:16Most
- 11:16of
- 11:17the
- 11:17path
- 11:17of
- 11:19love
- 11:21is
- 11:21that
- 11:22there
- 11:22is
- 11:22a
- 11:22lover
- 11:25yearning
- 11:25for
- 11:26the
- 11:26beloved
- 11:27and
- 11:28not
- 11:28finding
- 11:29it.
- 11:30So
- 11:30all
- 11:30the
- 11:30heartache,
- 11:31all
- 11:32the
- 11:32separation,
- 11:33all
- 11:33the
- 11:33pain,
- 11:35all
- 11:35the
- 11:35insufficiency,
- 11:37all
- 11:37the
- 11:38meaninglessness,
- 11:41all
- 11:41of
- 11:41that
- 11:41that
- 11:42people
- 11:42experience
- 11:42in
- 11:43the
- 11:43spiritual
- 11:43path
- 11:44here
- 11:44is
- 11:44seen
- 11:44in
- 11:45terms
- 11:45of
- 11:46the
- 11:46beloved.
- 11:46Where
- 11:47is
- 11:47the
- 11:47beloved?
- 11:48I
- 11:48want
- 11:48to
- 11:48be
- 11:48one
- 11:49with
- 11:49the
- 11:49beloved.
- 11:50I
- 11:50want
- 11:50to
- 11:51see
- 11:51the
- 11:51beloved
- 11:51behold
- 11:52the
- 11:52beloved,
- 11:53be
- 11:53one
- 11:53with
- 11:53the
- 11:53beloved,
- 11:54as
- 11:54close
- 11:54to
- 11:54the
- 11:55beloved.
- 11:56And
- 11:56that's
- 11:56why
- 11:56the
- 11:57path
- 11:57of
- 11:57love
- 11:58has
- 11:59to
- 11:59do
- 11:59with
- 11:59nearing
- 12:00and
- 12:00distant
- 12:00feeling.
- 12:01Near
- 12:01getting
- 12:01nearer.
- 12:03I
- 12:03mean
- 12:03some
- 12:03tradition
- 12:04even
- 12:04have
- 12:05words
- 12:05for
- 12:05nearness
- 12:06and
- 12:06different
- 12:07degrees
- 12:07of
- 12:08nearness.
- 12:08But
- 12:08still
- 12:09it's
- 12:09true.
- 12:10Nearness
- 12:11means
- 12:11there's
- 12:11one
- 12:11near
- 12:12another.
- 12:14And
- 12:14then
- 12:14nearness
- 12:15of
- 12:15course
- 12:16alternates
- 12:16with
- 12:17distance.
- 12:17Things
- 12:18that
- 12:18make
- 12:19us
- 12:19farther
- 12:19away.
- 12:19We
- 12:20get
- 12:20busy
- 12:20with
- 12:21the
- 12:21world,
- 12:21busy
- 12:22with
- 12:22other
- 12:22loves
- 12:23and
- 12:23forget.
- 12:24And
- 12:25our
- 12:26passion
- 12:26wanes.
- 12:27And
- 12:28till
- 12:28our
- 12:29passion
- 12:29fires
- 12:30up
- 12:30again
- 12:31and
- 12:31we're
- 12:32on
- 12:32the
- 12:32search
- 12:33again,
- 12:33you
- 12:34know,
- 12:34and
- 12:35yearning
- 12:35and
- 12:36loving
- 12:36and
- 12:38one
- 12:39thing,
- 12:39and
- 12:41I
- 12:41mean
- 12:41all
- 12:41the
- 12:43sentiments
- 12:44of
- 12:44the
- 12:44heart
- 12:44come
- 12:45into
- 12:45it
- 12:46and
- 12:46to
- 12:46really
- 12:47clarification
- 12:48of
- 12:48the
- 12:48emptying
- 12:49and
- 12:49a
- 12:49clarification
- 12:50of
- 12:50the
- 12:50heart
- 12:51and
- 12:51to
- 12:51become
- 12:52completely
- 12:52pure.
- 12:54And
- 12:54I
- 12:55imagine
- 12:55that's
- 12:55a
- 12:56process.
- 12:56It
- 12:56doesn't
- 12:56just
- 12:56happen
- 12:57all
- 12:57at
- 12:57once.
- 12:58The
- 12:58purification
- 12:59of
- 12:59the
- 12:59heart,
- 12:59I
- 13:00mean,
- 13:00is
- 13:00That
- 13:00a
- 13:00gradual
- 13:01thing.
- 13:01As
- 13:02we
- 13:02get
- 13:02closer
- 13:03to
- 13:04this
- 13:04inner
- 13:04beloved,
- 13:05does
- 13:07our
- 13:07inner
- 13:07idols,
- 13:08our
- 13:08inner
- 13:09projections,
- 13:09our
- 13:09reifications,
- 13:10as
- 13:10you
- 13:10say,
- 13:11begin
- 13:11to
- 13:12dissolve
- 13:13through
- 13:13the
- 13:13work
- 13:14itself?
- 13:14Or
- 13:14is
- 13:14it
- 13:15something
- 13:15we've
- 13:15got
- 13:15to
- 13:15get
- 13:15to
- 13:16this
- 13:16point
- 13:16of
- 13:16complete
- 13:16emptiness
- 13:17of
- 13:17the
- 13:17heart
- 13:17before
- 13:18we
- 13:18can
- 13:18experience
- 13:19the
- 13:19inner
- 13:19beloved?
- 13:20It
- 13:21is
- 13:21a
- 13:21process.
- 13:23You
- 13:23know,
- 13:23for
- 13:23me,
- 13:23I've
- 13:24already
- 13:24known
- 13:24the
- 13:25absolute
- 13:25been
- 13:25experiencing
- 13:26for
- 13:27a
- 13:27while,
- 13:27but
- 13:28I
- 13:28didn't
- 13:28know
- 13:28it
- 13:29was
- 13:29in
- 13:30our
- 13:30beloved.
- 13:31I
- 13:31experienced
- 13:32the
- 13:32nature
- 13:32of
- 13:32everything
- 13:34and
- 13:34the
- 13:34vast
- 13:35expanse,
- 13:37the
- 13:37nature
- 13:37of
- 13:38non
- 13:38dual
- 13:38reality.
- 13:41But
- 13:41then
- 13:41the
- 13:41path
- 13:42of
- 13:42the
- 13:42heart
- 13:43was
- 13:43another
- 13:44thread
- 13:44that
- 13:44starts
- 13:45happening.
- 13:46The
- 13:46heart
- 13:46itself
- 13:47wanted
- 13:47something
- 13:48and
- 13:49they
- 13:49know.
- 13:49I
- 13:50mean,
- 13:50I
- 13:51didn't
- 13:51know
- 13:51that
- 13:51is
- 13:52the
- 13:52inner
- 13:52beloved.
- 13:53And
- 13:54had
- 13:54to
- 13:54go
- 13:54through
- 13:55the
- 13:55whole
- 13:55journey
- 13:56of
- 13:56the
- 13:56heart,
- 13:56which
- 13:57is
- 13:57a
- 13:57whole
- 13:58process,
- 13:59took
- 13:59years.
- 14:01I
- 14:01mean,
- 14:01I
- 14:01was
- 14:01on
- 14:02it
- 14:02since
- 14:02I
- 14:02was
- 14:03younger
- 14:03without
- 14:04knowing.
- 14:05But
- 14:05it
- 14:06took
- 14:06years
- 14:06and
- 14:07long.
- 14:08You
- 14:08know,
- 14:08it
- 14:09goes
- 14:09up
- 14:09and
- 14:09down
- 14:10because
- 14:10it
- 14:10was
- 14:10all
- 14:11for
- 14:11me,
- 14:11it
- 14:11was
- 14:12some
- 14:12people,
- 14:13path
- 14:14of
- 14:14the
- 14:14heart
- 14:14is
- 14:14all
- 14:15their
- 14:15path.
- 14:16For
- 14:17me,
- 14:17path
- 14:17of
- 14:17the
- 14:18heart
- 14:18is
- 14:18part
- 14:18of
- 14:19my
- 14:19path.
- 14:20So
- 14:20it
- 14:20was
- 14:21alternating
- 14:21with
- 14:22other
- 14:22ways
- 14:23of
- 14:23experiencing
- 14:24the
- 14:24truth.
- 14:25So
- 14:25the
- 14:26path
- 14:26of
- 14:26the
- 14:26heart
- 14:27at
- 14:27some
- 14:27point
- 14:27dominated
- 14:29until
- 14:29it
- 14:30became
- 14:30this
- 14:31deep,
- 14:32deep
- 14:32love
- 14:33and
- 14:33wanting
- 14:33that.
- 14:34The
- 14:34Tuvi
- 14:34is
- 14:34called
- 14:34the
- 14:35shok,
- 14:35Shaukh
- 14:36or
- 14:36Ishq.
- 14:37Both
- 14:38words,
- 14:38shaukh
- 14:39mean
- 14:40wanting
- 14:40an
- 14:41uncontrollable
- 14:42work.
- 14:42Eshk
- 14:43means
- 14:43totally
- 14:44and
- 14:44loved
- 14:45and
- 14:45raptured,
- 14:46you
- 14:46know,
- 14:46And
- 14:47Amita,
- 14:47just
- 14:48listening.
- 14:48There's
- 14:49a
- 14:49curiosity
- 14:50in
- 14:51or
- 14:51an
- 14:51apparent
- 14:52paradox
- 14:53between
- 14:53the
- 14:54fact
- 14:54of
- 14:54your
- 14:55realization
- 14:56with
- 14:56its
- 14:56fullness
- 14:57and
- 14:57complete
- 14:58satisfaction
- 14:59and
- 15:00at
- 15:00the
- 15:01same
- 15:01time
- 15:01experiencing
- 15:02this
- 15:03longing
- 15:04inherent
- 15:05in
- 15:05the
- 15:05path
- 15:05of.
- 15:05Aha.
- 15:06Yeah,
- 15:06it's
- 15:07interesting.
- 15:07It
- 15:08surprised
- 15:08me.
- 15:10You
- 15:10think
- 15:10if
- 15:10I
- 15:11already
- 15:11know
- 15:11it,
- 15:13everything
- 15:13would
- 15:14be
- 15:14fixed?
- 15:14What
- 15:14I
- 15:15call
- 15:15the
- 15:15absolute
- 15:15truth
- 15:16and
- 15:16real
- 15:16I
- 15:16am
- 15:17it.
- 15:17But
- 15:17then
- 15:19the
- 15:19heart
- 15:19still
- 15:20the
- 15:20heart
- 15:21wasn't
- 15:21completely
- 15:21cooked,
- 15:24which
- 15:24is
- 15:24true
- 15:24by
- 15:25many
- 15:25people
- 15:25who
- 15:26experience
- 15:27the
- 15:27absolute
- 15:27or
- 15:27non
- 15:28dual
- 15:28truth.
- 15:29That
- 15:29doesn't
- 15:29mean
- 15:29their
- 15:30heart
- 15:30is
- 15:30completely
- 15:31emptied,
- 15:32completely
- 15:32open.
- 15:33I
- 15:33could
- 15:33be
- 15:33called
- 15:33a
- 15:34quarter
- 15:34baked
- 15:34or
- 15:35half
- 15:35baked.
- 15:36Yeah,
- 15:36I
- 15:36mean,
- 15:37that's
- 15:38not
- 15:39unusual.
- 15:39That's
- 15:40normal.
- 15:40I
- 15:41mean,
- 15:41that's
- 15:41what
- 15:41I
- 15:41found
- 15:42myself
- 15:42in.
- 15:43But
- 15:44then
- 15:44I
- 15:44pursued
- 15:45it.
- 15:45I
- 15:45mean,
- 15:45or
- 15:46it
- 15:46made
- 15:46me
- 15:47pursue
- 15:47it.
- 15:47It
- 15:47was
- 15:48like
- 15:48a
- 15:48natural,
- 15:49spontaneous
- 15:50process
- 15:50of
- 15:51engaging
- 15:51the
- 15:53movement
- 15:53of
- 15:53the
- 15:53heart.
- 15:54The
- 15:54anglasia
- 15:55of
- 15:56the
- 15:56heart,
- 15:56the,
- 15:57let's
- 15:57say,
- 15:57the
- 15:58cooking
- 15:58of
- 15:59the
- 15:59heart.
- 15:59And
- 15:59as
- 16:00you
- 16:00say
- 16:00it
- 16:00in
- 16:00Rumi's
- 16:01poetry,
- 16:01we
- 16:01see
- 16:02both
- 16:02of
- 16:02those
- 16:02things.
- 16:03We
- 16:03see
- 16:03the
- 16:03time
- 16:04parts
- 16:04where
- 16:04he's
- 16:04just
- 16:05in
- 16:05deep
- 16:05yearning
- 16:06for
- 16:06the
- 16:06beloved
- 16:07and
- 16:07other
- 16:07times
- 16:07he's
- 16:08Right
- 16:08there.
- 16:09And
- 16:09it
- 16:09just
- 16:09kind
- 16:09of
- 16:10goes
- 16:10back
- 16:10and
- 16:10forth
- 16:11on
- 16:11his
- 16:11journey.
- 16:11And
- 16:11he
- 16:12expresses
- 16:12it
- 16:12so
- 16:12beautifully.
- 16:14Yes.
- 16:14Yeah.
- 16:15And
- 16:16sometimes,
- 16:16you
- 16:16know,
- 16:17with
- 16:17Rumi
- 16:18and
- 16:18his
- 16:19poetry,
- 16:20sometimes
- 16:21you
- 16:21need
- 16:21to
- 16:22differentiate
- 16:23between
- 16:23his
- 16:23love
- 16:24with
- 16:24his
- 16:25teacher,
- 16:25the
- 16:25shams,
- 16:26or
- 16:27the
- 16:27inner
- 16:28beloved.
- 16:29And
- 16:29sometimes
- 16:30for
- 16:30him,
- 16:31they're
- 16:31both
- 16:31the
- 16:32same,
- 16:32you
- 16:32see?
- 16:33I
- 16:34mean,
- 16:34coming
- 16:35back
- 16:35to
- 16:35the
- 16:35paradox
- 16:36of
- 16:36your
- 16:36experience
- 16:37of
- 16:37the
- 16:38realization,
- 16:39the
- 16:39fullness,
- 16:40the
- 16:40complete
- 16:40satisfaction
- 16:41of
- 16:41that.
- 16:42The
- 16:42paradox
- 16:43with
- 16:43that
- 16:43longing
- 16:44is
- 16:44something
- 16:45analogous
- 16:46I'm
- 16:47trying
- 16:47to
- 16:47feel
- 16:47into
- 16:48in
- 16:48my
- 16:48own
- 16:48experience.
- 16:49Not
- 16:49having,
- 16:49of
- 16:50course,
- 16:50your
- 16:50depth
- 16:50of
- 16:51realization,
- 16:51but
- 16:52still
- 16:52having
- 16:53practiced
- 16:53long
- 16:53enough
- 16:54so
- 16:54that
- 16:54the
- 16:55usual
- 16:55way
- 16:56of
- 16:56being
- 16:56is
- 16:56much
- 16:57more,
- 16:57in
- 16:57the
- 16:57this
- 16:58these
- 16:58days,
- 16:59much
- 16:59more
- 16:59relaxed,
- 17:00more
- 17:00of
- 17:00a
- 17:00flow
- 17:01than
- 17:01a
- 17:01kind
- 17:02of
- 17:02push
- 17:03or
- 17:03dramatic
- 17:04pull
- 17:04as
- 17:05it
- 17:05was
- 17:05in
- 17:06previous
- 17:06years.
- 17:06So
- 17:07as
- 17:07I.
- 17:08As
- 17:08I've
- 17:08been
- 17:08studying
- 17:09Dinner
- 17:09Beloved
- 17:09and
- 17:10reading
- 17:10of
- 17:11the
- 17:11intensity
- 17:11of
- 17:12this
- 17:12longing.
- 17:12Somehow
- 17:13it
- 17:13feels
- 17:13like
- 17:14there's
- 17:14less
- 17:15of
- 17:15that
- 17:15kind
- 17:16of
- 17:16passionate
- 17:17longing
- 17:17than
- 17:18there
- 17:18was
- 17:18before
- 17:19being
- 17:20practiced.
- 17:21What
- 17:21do
- 17:21you
- 17:21attribute
- 17:22that
- 17:22to?
- 17:23Well,
- 17:24the
- 17:24practice
- 17:24feels
- 17:25like
- 17:25it's
- 17:25being
- 17:26brought
- 17:26about
- 17:27a
- 17:27greater
- 17:27degree
- 17:27of
- 17:28peace,
- 17:28a
- 17:29greater
- 17:29degree
- 17:29of
- 17:29just
- 17:30trust,
- 17:30of
- 17:31allowing
- 17:32more
- 17:32of
- 17:32a
- 17:33flow
- 17:33than
- 17:33a
- 17:34driven.
- 17:35Any
- 17:35driven,
- 17:35compulsive
- 17:37sense
- 17:37of
- 17:37motivation.
- 17:38Less
- 17:38need.
- 17:39It
- 17:40feels
- 17:40a
- 17:40lot
- 17:40easier,
- 17:41more
- 17:41flowing.
- 17:42As
- 17:43opposed
- 17:43to
- 17:43the
- 17:43kind
- 17:43of
- 17:44intense
- 17:45fall
- 17:45that
- 17:46we
- 17:46describe
- 17:47in
- 17:47the
- 17:47path
- 17:47of
- 17:47love.
- 17:48Well,
- 17:49I
- 17:49mean,
- 17:50the
- 17:50more
- 17:51we
- 17:51are
- 17:51in
- 17:51touch
- 17:52with
- 17:52our
- 17:52true
- 17:53nature
- 17:53or
- 17:53true
- 17:54self,
- 17:55the
- 17:55less
- 17:55there
- 17:56is
- 17:56that
- 17:57strong
- 17:57drive.
- 17:58At
- 17:58some
- 17:59point,
- 17:59the
- 17:59drive
- 17:59stops
- 18:00completely
- 18:00because
- 18:01we
- 18:01have
- 18:01arrived.
- 18:03However,
- 18:04the
- 18:04path
- 18:05of
- 18:05love
- 18:05is
- 18:05a
- 18:06specific
- 18:06path.
- 18:07It
- 18:07is
- 18:07not
- 18:07necessarily
- 18:08the
- 18:08path
- 18:09for
- 18:09everybody.
- 18:10Some
- 18:11people
- 18:11have
- 18:11that
- 18:12as
- 18:12important
- 18:13for
- 18:13them.
- 18:13Some
- 18:14people,
- 18:14not
- 18:14some
- 18:15people.
- 18:15Other
- 18:16paths.
- 18:17Many
- 18:17paths
- 18:18don't
- 18:18include
- 18:19the
- 18:19path
- 18:19of
- 18:19love
- 18:19at
- 18:20all,
- 18:21you
- 18:21know,
- 18:22I
- 18:22mean,
- 18:22the
- 18:23Buddhist,
- 18:23for
- 18:23instance,
- 18:24in
- 18:24general,
- 18:25it's
- 18:25not
- 18:25really
- 18:26path
- 18:26of
- 18:26love.
- 18:26It's
- 18:27a
- 18:27path
- 18:27of.
- 18:27The
- 18:27mind
- 18:29is
- 18:29about
- 18:29awareness.
- 18:31So
- 18:31for
- 18:31them,
- 18:32that
- 18:33doesn't
- 18:33necessarily
- 18:34occur
- 18:34in
- 18:34the
- 18:34path
- 18:35of
- 18:35love.
- 18:35Path
- 18:35of
- 18:36love
- 18:36is
- 18:36a
- 18:36particular
- 18:38dynamic
- 18:38that
- 18:39happens
- 18:39in
- 18:40the
- 18:40consciousness
- 18:41then
- 18:41that
- 18:42some
- 18:43people
- 18:43have
- 18:43it
- 18:44more
- 18:44than
- 18:44others.
- 18:45Some
- 18:45people
- 18:45have
- 18:45it,
- 18:45some
- 18:46other
- 18:46people
- 18:46don't
- 18:46have.
- 18:47So
- 18:47for
- 18:47you,
- 18:47you
- 18:47don't
- 18:48know.
- 18:48That's
- 18:48your
- 18:49dominant
- 18:49thing,
- 18:50you
- 18:50see,
- 18:51might
- 18:51not
- 18:51be
- 18:51your
- 18:51dominant.
- 18:52That's
- 18:52why
- 18:53you
- 18:53don't
- 18:53feel
- 18:54it
- 18:54as
- 18:54much.
- 18:54You
- 18:55see,
- 18:55it
- 18:55doesn't
- 18:56mean
- 18:56there's
- 18:56anything
- 18:56wrong.
- 18:57But
- 18:57not
- 18:58just
- 18:58not
- 18:59where
- 18:59your
- 18:59soul
- 18:59is
- 19:00going.
- 19:01That
- 19:02feels
- 19:02right.
- 19:03And
- 19:04that
- 19:04reminds
- 19:05me
- 19:05of
- 19:05something
- 19:05I
- 19:06wanted
- 19:06to
- 19:06bring
- 19:06up
- 19:07in
- 19:07this
- 19:08book.
- 19:09There's
- 19:10not
- 19:10only
- 19:10an
- 19:10exposition
- 19:11and
- 19:11laying
- 19:11out
- 19:11of
- 19:12the
- 19:12path
- 19:12of
- 19:12love,
- 19:12but
- 19:13there
- 19:13are
- 19:13a
- 19:13series
- 19:13of
- 19:14exercises
- 19:15that
- 19:16are
- 19:16Offered
- 19:17primarily
- 19:17centered
- 19:18around
- 19:19a
- 19:19repetitive
- 19:20questioning
- 19:20or
- 19:21description
- 19:22of
- 19:22some
- 19:23facet
- 19:23of
- 19:23the
- 19:23path
- 19:24or
- 19:24the
- 19:24various
- 19:25experiences
- 19:26that
- 19:26go
- 19:26with
- 19:26that
- 19:26or
- 19:26the
- 19:27blocks
- 19:27or
- 19:27barriers.
- 19:28Personally,
- 19:29I
- 19:29have
- 19:29to
- 19:29say
- 19:29that
- 19:30doing
- 19:30one
- 19:31around
- 19:31the
- 19:31blocks
- 19:32to
- 19:32Venice
- 19:33of
- 19:33the
- 19:33Beloved
- 19:34was
- 19:34absolutely
- 19:35transformative.
- 19:36It
- 19:36got
- 19:36me
- 19:36in
- 19:36touch.
- 19:37I've
- 19:38long
- 19:38been
- 19:38aware
- 19:38I
- 19:39have
- 19:39difficulty
- 19:39with
- 19:39the
- 19:40path
- 19:40of
- 19:40love.
- 19:40But
- 19:41I'm
- 19:41not
- 19:41a
- 19:41devotional
- 19:42type.
- 19:43Blocks
- 19:44to
- 19:44it.
- 19:44And
- 19:45doing
- 19:45that
- 19:46exercise
- 19:47broke
- 19:47through
- 19:47in
- 19:48a
- 19:48way
- 19:48nothing
- 19:48else
- 19:49has
- 19:49to.
- 19:50A
- 19:50release
- 19:51of
- 19:51stuff
- 19:52going
- 19:52back
- 19:52to,
- 19:52of
- 19:53course,
- 19:53childhood
- 19:55relationship
- 19:56with
- 19:56an
- 19:56aggressive
- 19:56alcoholic
- 19:57father,
- 19:58et
- 19:58cetera,
- 19:58et
- 19:58cetera.
- 19:59You
- 19:59know,
- 20:00a
- 20:01defensive
- 20:02boarding
- 20:03up
- 20:03and.
- 20:04And
- 20:04refusal
- 20:05to
- 20:05be
- 20:06impacted.
- 20:07Which,
- 20:07you
- 20:07know,
- 20:08like
- 20:08all
- 20:08defenses
- 20:09served
- 20:09its
- 20:09purpose
- 20:10at
- 20:10the
- 20:10time,
- 20:11but
- 20:11has
- 20:11in
- 20:12problematic
- 20:12sense.
- 20:13And
- 20:13so
- 20:14all
- 20:14this
- 20:14is
- 20:14just
- 20:14to
- 20:15say
- 20:15that
- 20:15the
- 20:15exercises
- 20:16in
- 20:16the
- 20:17book
- 20:17have
- 20:17for
- 20:17me
- 20:18been
- 20:18really
- 20:19powerful.
- 20:19Remember
- 20:20this
- 20:20book
- 20:21come
- 20:21from
- 20:21a
- 20:22teaching
- 20:22I
- 20:22did
- 20:23to
- 20:23my
- 20:24group.
- 20:25And
- 20:25so
- 20:26the
- 20:26exercise
- 20:26come
- 20:27because
- 20:28I
- 20:28gave
- 20:29the
- 20:29students
- 20:30to
- 20:30do.
- 20:31And
- 20:32you
- 20:32notice
- 20:32in
- 20:32the
- 20:33book
- 20:33that
- 20:33the
- 20:34way
- 20:35the
- 20:36prose
- 20:36in
- 20:36it,
- 20:37the
- 20:37way
- 20:37the
- 20:38chapter
- 20:38were
- 20:39written
- 20:39is
- 20:40different
- 20:40from
- 20:41the
- 20:41other
- 20:41book.
- 20:41We're
- 20:42exploring
- 20:43the
- 20:43journey
- 20:44home.
- 20:44That
- 20:45one,
- 20:45as
- 20:45I
- 20:45wrote
- 20:46this
- 20:47one,
- 20:47I
- 20:47talked.
- 20:48You
- 20:48could
- 20:48see
- 20:49the
- 20:49difference
- 20:50between
- 20:50my
- 20:50writing
- 20:51and
- 20:51talking.
- 20:51This
- 20:51one
- 20:52is
- 20:52more
- 20:53discursive.
- 20:54I
- 20:54go
- 20:54more
- 20:55detail,
- 20:55a
- 20:55different
- 20:56kind,
- 20:56not
- 20:57as
- 20:57dense.
- 20:59So
- 21:00yes,
- 21:01I
- 21:01mean,
- 21:02maybe
- 21:04for
- 21:04some
- 21:04people,
- 21:05their
- 21:05path,
- 21:06they're
- 21:06not
- 21:06devotional.
- 21:07But
- 21:07that
- 21:08might
- 21:08be
- 21:09either
- 21:09its
- 21:09nature
- 21:10is
- 21:10not
- 21:10devotional.
- 21:11I
- 21:11mean,
- 21:11that's
- 21:12nothing
- 21:13to
- 21:13do
- 21:14with
- 21:14their
- 21:14development.
- 21:15Or
- 21:16maybe
- 21:17that
- 21:18something
- 21:18is
- 21:20in
- 21:20the
- 21:20heart
- 21:20need
- 21:21to
- 21:21be
- 21:21worked
- 21:21out,
- 21:22need
- 21:22some
- 21:22obstructions
- 21:23that
- 21:23need
- 21:24to
- 21:24be
- 21:24opened
- 21:24up.
- 21:25And
- 21:25maybe,
- 21:25who
- 21:26knows,
- 21:26might
- 21:26become
- 21:28parti.
- 21:29The
- 21:29end
- 21:29of
- 21:29your
- 21:29life.
- 21:29Anyway,
- 21:31there's
- 21:31hope.
- 21:34Might
- 21:34you
- 21:34find
- 21:34yourself
- 21:35singing
- 21:36to
- 21:36God
- 21:36at
- 21:37the
- 21:37top
- 21:37of
- 21:37your
- 21:37voice,
- 21:41those
- 21:41Indian
- 21:42song
- 21:42devotions.
- 21:47And
- 21:48all
- 21:48that,
- 21:48you
- 21:48know,
- 21:49into
- 21:49this.
- 21:52I
- 21:52was
- 21:52one
- 21:52of
- 21:52those
- 21:53kids
- 21:53who
- 21:53were
- 21:53in
- 21:53school
- 21:54who
- 21:54was
- 21:54told
- 21:54to
- 21:54mouth
- 21:55the
- 21:55words
- 21:55in
- 21:56singing
- 21:56lessons.
- 21:57So.
- 21:57So,
- 21:58you
- 21:58know,
- 21:59let's
- 21:59hope
- 21:59I'm
- 22:00not
- 22:00singing.
- 22:03Yeah,
- 22:03I'm
- 22:03not
- 22:04good
- 22:04at
- 22:04singing.
- 22:04I
- 22:04never
- 22:05got
- 22:05to
- 22:05sing.
- 22:06I
- 22:06wrote
- 22:06poetry
- 22:07and
- 22:07I,
- 22:08you
- 22:08know,
- 22:08this
- 22:09book,
- 22:09I
- 22:09use
- 22:09poetry
- 22:10from
- 22:10different
- 22:10people
- 22:12because
- 22:12the
- 22:13path
- 22:13of
- 22:13love
- 22:14poetry
- 22:14that
- 22:15natural
- 22:16to
- 22:16it.
- 22:17Because,
- 22:17you
- 22:17know,
- 22:19the
- 22:19heart
- 22:19speaks
- 22:20in
- 22:20poetry
- 22:21usually
- 22:21because
- 22:24it's
- 22:24not
- 22:24the
- 22:24clear
- 22:25delineation
- 22:26as
- 22:26much
- 22:27as
- 22:27the
- 22:27expression
- 22:29of
- 22:29certain
- 22:29sentiments
- 22:31and
- 22:32states
- 22:32that
- 22:33pass
- 22:33through.
- 22:34But
- 22:34the
- 22:35interesting
- 22:35thing
- 22:36about
- 22:36the
- 22:37path
- 22:37of
- 22:37love
- 22:38is
- 22:38seeing
- 22:39that
- 22:39the
- 22:39soul
- 22:41really
- 22:41has
- 22:41heart.
- 22:43That
- 22:43heart
- 22:43is
- 22:44an
- 22:44important
- 22:44part
- 22:45of
- 22:46being
- 22:46a
- 22:46human
- 22:46being.
- 22:47And
- 22:48the
- 22:48heart
- 22:48is
- 22:48a
- 22:48big
- 22:49organ.
- 22:50I
- 22:51mean
- 22:51inner
- 22:52subtle
- 22:53organs.
- 22:53Not
- 22:54just
- 22:54like
- 22:54the
- 22:54mind.
- 22:55Mind
- 22:55is
- 22:55A
- 22:55subtle
- 22:56organ,
- 22:56too,
- 22:57has
- 22:57all
- 22:58dimensions,
- 22:59but
- 23:00the
- 23:00heart,
- 23:00too,
- 23:00is
- 23:01like
- 23:01that.
- 23:02It
- 23:02can
- 23:02be
- 23:03very
- 23:03deep,
- 23:03and
- 23:04it
- 23:04goes
- 23:05all
- 23:05the
- 23:05way,
- 23:07all
- 23:07the
- 23:07way.
- 23:07Just
- 23:08like
- 23:08the
- 23:08path
- 23:09of
- 23:09the
- 23:09mind.
- 23:11So
- 23:11this
- 23:12book
- 23:12really
- 23:12shows
- 23:14how
- 23:15the
- 23:15path
- 23:16of
- 23:16the
- 23:17heart
- 23:18goes
- 23:19all
- 23:19the
- 23:19way
- 23:20through
- 23:21to
- 23:21the
- 23:21ultimate
- 23:22beloved,
- 23:23which
- 23:23is
- 23:24the
- 23:24ultimate
- 23:24nature
- 23:25anyway,
- 23:25that
- 23:25could
- 23:26find
- 23:26through
- 23:27any
- 23:27path.
- 23:28Yeah,
- 23:29Hameed,
- 23:29Interestingly
- 23:30enough,
- 23:30I'm
- 23:30going
- 23:30to
- 23:31be
- 23:31going
- 23:31into
- 23:31the
- 23:31studio
- 23:32shortly.
- 23:33And
- 23:33the
- 23:33song
- 23:34that
- 23:34I'm
- 23:34going
- 23:34to
- 23:34record,
- 23:35I
- 23:36wrote
- 23:36it
- 23:36a
- 23:36while
- 23:36back,
- 23:37but
- 23:37it's
- 23:37called
- 23:37in
- 23:37the
- 23:38Heart
- 23:38of
- 23:38Me.
- 23:39And
- 23:39it
- 23:39talks
- 23:40about
- 23:40the
- 23:40pain
- 23:40of
- 23:40lost
- 23:41love
- 23:42and
- 23:42then
- 23:43the
- 23:43commitment
- 23:44to
- 23:44keep
- 23:44on
- 23:45looking
- 23:45in
- 23:45the
- 23:45heart
- 23:46of
- 23:46me.
- 23:46And
- 23:46then
- 23:47the
- 23:47last
- 23:48part
- 23:48is
- 23:48about
- 23:48the
- 23:48magnificence
- 23:50of
- 23:50when
- 23:50it's
- 23:51found.
- 23:51So
- 23:52I
- 23:52think
- 23:52I'm
- 23:52on
- 23:52the
- 23:52right
- 23:53path
- 23:53in
- 23:53the
- 23:53recording
- 23:54studio.
- 23:54Well,
- 23:55you
- 23:55notice
- 23:55in
- 23:56all
- 23:56cultures,
- 23:59most
- 23:59of
- 23:59the
- 23:59singing
- 24:00and
- 24:00the
- 24:00music
- 24:00has
- 24:01do
- 24:01love.
- 24:03Either
- 24:03how
- 24:04much
- 24:04you
- 24:04love
- 24:04somebody
- 24:05or
- 24:05how
- 24:05you
- 24:06feel
- 24:06after
- 24:06losing
- 24:07somebody.
- 24:08Somebody
- 24:08doesn't
- 24:08want
- 24:09you.
- 24:09It's
- 24:10always
- 24:10about
- 24:11the
- 24:11dynamics
- 24:12of
- 24:12the
- 24:12heart
- 24:13in
- 24:14relation
- 24:14to
- 24:15a
- 24:15beloved.
- 24:16So
- 24:16for
- 24:17human
- 24:17being,
- 24:17they're
- 24:18preoccupied
- 24:18with
- 24:19love.
- 24:19Love
- 24:20is
- 24:20actually
- 24:20is
- 24:20a
- 24:21much
- 24:21bigger
- 24:23force
- 24:23for
- 24:24human
- 24:24being
- 24:25than
- 24:25any
- 24:26other
- 24:26thing.
- 24:27Much
- 24:27more
- 24:27than,
- 24:29you
- 24:29know,
- 24:29knowledge
- 24:30or
- 24:30wanting
- 24:31to
- 24:31understand
- 24:32things.
- 24:32Only
- 24:33some
- 24:33people,
- 24:34some
- 24:35members
- 24:35of
- 24:36humanity,
- 24:36but
- 24:36love,
- 24:37everybody
- 24:37get
- 24:37love
- 24:38of
- 24:38their
- 24:38life.
- 24:39I
- 24:39mean,
- 24:39it's
- 24:40not
- 24:40an
- 24:40inner
- 24:41love
- 24:41for
- 24:41the
- 24:41divine.
- 24:42It
- 24:42is
- 24:42love
- 24:42for
- 24:43somebody,
- 24:43for
- 24:43a
- 24:44friend,
- 24:44for
- 24:45family.
- 24:46So
- 24:46love
- 24:46is
- 24:46always
- 24:47there.
- 24:48But
- 24:48it
- 24:49turns
- 24:49out
- 24:49that
- 24:50that
- 24:50comes
- 24:50from
- 24:51someplace,
- 24:52that
- 24:52there's
- 24:53an
- 24:53organ
- 24:53in
- 24:53the
- 24:54soul,
- 24:54that
- 24:55the
- 24:56soul
- 24:56appears
- 24:56as
- 24:57an
- 24:57organ
- 24:57of
- 24:58love
- 24:59that
- 25:00has
- 25:00its
- 25:01own
- 25:01dynamic,
- 25:02its
- 25:02own
- 25:03laws.
- 25:04It's
- 25:04not
- 25:05matter
- 25:05of
- 25:05detachment
- 25:06and
- 25:07discrimination.
- 25:08It's
- 25:09matter
- 25:09of
- 25:09yearning
- 25:10and
- 25:10love
- 25:10and
- 25:10intensity
- 25:11and
- 25:11passion
- 25:12that
- 25:13penetrates
- 25:13through
- 25:14the
- 25:14barriers
- 25:15and
- 25:15dissolves
- 25:16them.
- 25:19I
- 25:19love
- 25:20that.
- 25:20Thank
- 25:20you.
- 25:21And,
- 25:21Amit,
- 25:22one
- 25:22of
- 25:22the
- 25:22questions
- 25:23that
- 25:23came
- 25:23up
- 25:23for
- 25:24me
- 25:24as
- 25:24I
- 25:24was
- 25:24reading
- 25:25your
- 25:26opening
- 25:26chapters
- 25:27about
- 25:27the
- 25:27fickleness
- 25:28of
- 25:28the
- 25:28heart.
- 25:29You
- 25:29call
- 25:30it
- 25:30the
- 25:30polyamory,
- 25:31the
- 25:31longing
- 25:31for
- 25:32this
- 25:32and
- 25:32that
- 25:32and
- 25:33many
- 25:33things.
- 25:33And
- 25:34people
- 25:34you
- 25:35talk
- 25:35out,
- 25:35point
- 25:36out
- 25:36that
- 25:36it's
- 25:36inherent
- 25:37inherently,
- 25:38inevitably
- 25:39there's
- 25:39a
- 25:39dissatisfaction
- 25:40there.
- 25:40And
- 25:41that
- 25:41this.
- 25:42That
- 25:42satisfaction
- 25:43can
- 25:44be
- 25:44the
- 25:44goad
- 25:45and
- 25:45the
- 25:45guide
- 25:46to
- 25:47the
- 25:47whole
- 25:48path
- 25:48of
- 25:48the
- 25:48heart.
- 25:49Looking,
- 25:49beginning
- 25:50to
- 25:50look
- 25:50within,
- 25:50but
- 25:51doesn't
- 25:52seem
- 25:52like
- 25:52that's
- 25:52a
- 25:53very
- 25:53common
- 25:53recognition.
- 25:55And
- 25:56in
- 25:56fact,
- 25:56I
- 25:56was
- 25:57even
- 25:57thinking.
- 25:58Abraham
- 25:58Maslow
- 25:59brought
- 25:59in
- 25:59the
- 25:59idea
- 26:00of
- 26:00meta
- 26:00motives,
- 26:01a
- 26:01higher
- 26:01order
- 26:02motives
- 26:02in
- 26:02which
- 26:03love
- 26:03was
- 26:03part
- 26:04of
- 26:04it.
- 26:04But
- 26:04he
- 26:05also
- 26:05spoke
- 26:05of
- 26:05meta
- 26:06pathologies,
- 26:06the
- 26:07pathologies
- 26:08that
- 26:08arose
- 26:09when
- 26:10the
- 26:10meta
- 26:11motives
- 26:11weren't
- 26:12recognized
- 26:12and
- 26:13fulfilled.
- 26:14So
- 26:15two
- 26:15questions
- 26:15here.
- 26:16One
- 26:16is
- 26:17how
- 26:17many
- 26:17people
- 26:18actually
- 26:18recognize
- 26:20the
- 26:20deeper
- 26:20nature
- 26:21of
- 26:21this
- 26:21call
- 26:22and
- 26:22make
- 26:22the
- 26:23turn
- 26:23inward?
- 26:23And
- 26:24what
- 26:24kind
- 26:25of
- 26:25suffering
- 26:26and
- 26:26pathologies
- 26:27do
- 26:27people
- 26:27go
- 26:28through
- 26:28when
- 26:28they
- 26:28don't?
- 26:29Well,
- 26:30the
- 26:30suffering
- 26:31and
- 26:31pathology
- 26:32that
- 26:32people
- 26:33go
- 26:33through
- 26:34and
- 26:34they
- 26:35don't
- 26:36in
- 26:36the
- 26:36majority
- 26:37of
- 26:37humankind,
- 26:39that
- 26:39the
- 26:40ordinary
- 26:40suffering
- 26:41human
- 26:41beings
- 26:43had
- 26:43various
- 26:44degrees
- 26:44of
- 26:45depth
- 26:45and
- 26:45intensity.
- 26:47And
- 26:47it
- 26:48has
- 26:48always
- 26:48been
- 26:49the
- 26:50wisdom
- 26:51and
- 26:51the
- 26:51understanding
- 26:52of
- 26:52all
- 26:52spiritual
- 26:53teaching
- 26:54that
- 26:54there
- 26:55will
- 26:55be
- 26:55suffering
- 26:55unless
- 26:56we
- 26:56really
- 26:57find
- 26:57the
- 26:57inner
- 26:57truth,
- 26:59that
- 26:59there
- 26:59is
- 26:59no
- 27:00true
- 27:00contentment,
- 27:01there
- 27:01is
- 27:02no
- 27:02true
- 27:03final
- 27:03peace
- 27:04and
- 27:04rest
- 27:05unless
- 27:05we
- 27:06find
- 27:06the
- 27:06deepest
- 27:07truth
- 27:07in
- 27:07us,
- 27:08the
- 27:09truth
- 27:09of
- 27:09our
- 27:10spirit.
- 27:11And
- 27:13doesn't
- 27:13have
- 27:13to
- 27:13be
- 27:13the
- 27:14path
- 27:14of
- 27:14the
- 27:14heart.
- 27:14Could
- 27:14be
- 27:15any
- 27:15path.
- 27:16They
- 27:16all
- 27:17have
- 27:17discontent
- 27:18as
- 27:18a
- 27:19beginning.
- 27:19Suffering,
- 27:20discontent
- 27:21or
- 27:21meaninglessness,
- 27:23you
- 27:24know,
- 27:27and
- 27:27the
- 27:27heart's
- 27:28the
- 27:28same
- 27:28way
- 27:30here.
- 27:30The
- 27:30discontent
- 27:31is
- 27:31felt
- 27:32in
- 27:32terms
- 27:33of
- 27:33love.
- 27:35That's
- 27:36the
- 27:36only
- 27:36difference
- 27:36that
- 27:37makes
- 27:37it
- 27:37the
- 27:37path
- 27:38of
- 27:38the
- 27:38heart.
- 27:39And
- 27:39discontent
- 27:40is
- 27:40that
- 27:40feeling,
- 27:41recognizing
- 27:42that
- 27:42what
- 27:42I
- 27:43love
- 27:43in
- 27:43life,
- 27:44whether
- 27:45it's
- 27:45sport
- 27:46or
- 27:46a
- 27:46person
- 27:47or
- 27:47an
- 27:47object
- 27:48or
- 27:48something,
- 27:49regardless
- 27:50how
- 27:50much
- 27:50I
- 27:51love
- 27:51it,
- 27:51there'll
- 27:51still
- 27:52be
- 27:52something
- 27:52missing
- 27:53someplace.
- 27:54And
- 27:55most
- 27:55people
- 27:55don't
- 27:55get
- 27:56there.
- 27:56Most
- 27:56people
- 27:56think
- 27:57the
- 27:58more
- 27:58they
- 27:58do
- 27:58the
- 27:58other
- 27:59thing,
- 27:59they
- 27:59probably
- 28:00will
- 28:01get
- 28:01enough.
- 28:03And
- 28:05some
- 28:05people
- 28:05get
- 28:06old
- 28:06and
- 28:06recognize
- 28:07that
- 28:07no
- 28:08didn't
- 28:08happen.
- 28:08Or
- 28:09some
- 28:09people
- 28:09get
- 28:09old,
- 28:10recognized,
- 28:10didn't
- 28:11happen,
- 28:11but
- 28:11they
- 28:12reconcile
- 28:12to
- 28:12it.
- 28:13If
- 28:13immature,
- 28:14it's
- 28:14okay,
- 28:14they
- 28:15can
- 28:15live
- 28:15with
- 28:15it
- 28:16as
- 28:17incompleteness.
- 28:18Few
- 28:18people,
- 28:20as
- 28:21we
- 28:21know
- 28:21throughout
- 28:22history,
- 28:23actually
- 28:23pursued
- 28:24the
- 28:24spiritual
- 28:25pathway
- 28:26to
- 28:26its
- 28:27final
- 28:27stages.
- 28:28And
- 28:29that
- 28:29when
- 28:30we
- 28:31experience
- 28:32true
- 28:32contentment,
- 28:33true
- 28:33settling
- 28:34through
- 28:35the
- 28:35path
- 28:38of
- 28:38the
- 28:38heart
- 28:38leads
- 28:39us
- 28:39to
- 28:39see
- 28:40that
- 28:40the
- 28:40inner
- 28:40beloved
- 28:41is
- 28:42our
- 28:42inner
- 28:43home,
- 28:43our
- 28:44repose.
- 28:47Repose
- 28:48the
- 28:48soul,
- 28:49basically,
- 28:49by
- 28:50finding
- 28:50the
- 28:50inner
- 28:51beloved,
- 28:51by
- 28:51being.
- 28:52Not
- 28:53only
- 28:53finding
- 28:53it,
- 28:54by
- 28:54being
- 28:55one
- 28:55with
- 28:55it,
- 28:56it's
- 28:57relieved
- 28:58of
- 28:59all
- 28:59its
- 29:00searching,
- 29:00all
- 29:01its
- 29:01yearning,
- 29:02all
- 29:02its
- 29:02discontent.
- 29:03And
- 29:04there
- 29:04is
- 29:04a
- 29:04contentment
- 29:05of
- 29:05fulfillment
- 29:06and
- 29:06the
- 29:06love
- 29:07and
- 29:07delight
- 29:07and
- 29:08love
- 29:08and
- 29:09joy
- 29:09that
- 29:10comes
- 29:10out
- 29:10of
- 29:10that,
- 29:12that
- 29:13the
- 29:13soul
- 29:14looks
- 29:14out
- 29:14from
- 29:15within.
- 29:15The
- 29:15bosom
- 29:16of
- 29:16the
- 29:16beloved
- 29:17looks
- 29:18on
- 29:18the
- 29:18world.
- 29:19So
- 29:20it's
- 29:20eyes,
- 29:20the
- 29:21eyes
- 29:21of
- 29:21the
- 29:21soul
- 29:22are
- 29:22the
- 29:22eyes
- 29:23that
- 29:23the
- 29:24beloved
- 29:24uses.
- 29:26And
- 29:26there's
- 29:27fear
- 29:27too.
- 29:28That's
- 29:28part
- 29:28of
- 29:29this
- 29:29fear
- 29:30of
- 29:30losing
- 29:31what
- 29:31we
- 29:31love,
- 29:32fear
- 29:32of
- 29:32losing
- 29:34ourselves,
- 29:34fear
- 29:35of
- 29:35death
- 29:35as
- 29:36the
- 29:36end
- 29:36of
- 29:36the
- 29:36story.
- 29:37Fear
- 29:37of
- 29:38finding
- 29:38God
- 29:38and
- 29:39losing
- 29:40him
- 29:40or
- 29:40her
- 29:41again.
- 29:41The
- 29:42different
- 29:42stages
- 29:43of
- 29:43the
- 29:43path
- 29:44have
- 29:44different
- 29:44kind
- 29:45of
- 29:45fears,
- 29:45you're
- 29:45right.
- 29:46Some
- 29:47of
- 29:47them
- 29:47much
- 29:48more
- 29:49tense,
- 29:49much
- 29:50more,
- 29:51you
- 29:51know,
- 29:52scary
- 29:52than
- 29:52others.
- 29:53Some
- 29:53of
- 29:53the
- 29:53fears
- 29:54are
- 29:54in
- 29:55terror.
- 29:56I
- 29:56Mean,
- 29:57but
- 29:57that
- 29:57is
- 29:58again,
- 29:58similar
- 29:59to
- 29:59other
- 29:59paths.
- 29:59The
- 30:00path
- 30:00of
- 30:00the
- 30:00mind
- 30:00has
- 30:01fear
- 30:01and
- 30:02terrible
- 30:03path
- 30:03of
- 30:03the
- 30:03heart
- 30:04as
- 30:04it's
- 30:04felt
- 30:05more
- 30:05emotionally.
- 30:06You
- 30:07feel
- 30:07the
- 30:07terror,
- 30:08the
- 30:08shaking
- 30:08and
- 30:09trembling.
- 30:10Well,
- 30:11first,
- 30:12fear
- 30:13is
- 30:13the
- 30:13fear
- 30:14of
- 30:14the
- 30:15heart
- 30:15is
- 30:15being
- 30:16purified
- 30:17of
- 30:17all
- 30:19other
- 30:19beloved
- 30:20is
- 30:20the
- 30:21fear
- 30:21of
- 30:21losing
- 30:22people
- 30:23we
- 30:23love.
- 30:24Fear
- 30:24of
- 30:24losing
- 30:24our
- 30:25love
- 30:25for
- 30:26them.
- 30:26Fear
- 30:27of
- 30:27losing
- 30:27the
- 30:28world.
- 30:29Fear
- 30:29of
- 30:29losing.
- 30:31I
- 30:31mean,
- 30:31there's
- 30:31a
- 30:31lot.
- 30:31That's
- 30:32a
- 30:32lot.
- 30:32And
- 30:33I
- 30:33mentioned
- 30:34in
- 30:34the
- 30:35book,
- 30:35especially
- 30:35the
- 30:36last
- 30:36few
- 30:37chapters,
- 30:38how
- 30:40much
- 30:40we
- 30:40love
- 30:40the
- 30:41world
- 30:42and
- 30:42that
- 30:42why,
- 30:43you
- 30:43know,
- 30:44one
- 30:44of
- 30:44the
- 30:44final
- 30:45things
- 30:45we're
- 30:45afraid
- 30:45of
- 30:46losing
- 30:46is
- 30:46the
- 30:46world
- 30:47as
- 30:47a
- 30:47whole,
- 30:49which
- 30:49at
- 30:49a
- 30:49deep
- 30:49level
- 30:50represent
- 30:51our
- 30:51good
- 30:51mother.
- 30:53The
- 30:53good
- 30:53mother
- 30:54and
- 30:54the
- 30:54world
- 30:54we
- 30:54call
- 30:55in
- 30:55the
- 30:55beginning.
- 30:55What's
- 30:56the
- 30:56world?
- 30:57It's
- 30:57our
- 30:58mother.
- 30:58And
- 30:59that
- 30:59stays
- 31:00imprinted
- 31:00deep
- 31:01in
- 31:01the
- 31:01soul
- 31:02and
- 31:02unconscious.
- 31:04So
- 31:05there's
- 31:05the
- 31:05inner
- 31:05mother
- 31:06or
- 31:06the
- 31:06world
- 31:07are
- 31:07the
- 31:07same
- 31:07thing.
- 31:08And
- 31:08there's
- 31:08a
- 31:08fear
- 31:09of
- 31:09losing
- 31:09that
- 31:10and
- 31:11some
- 31:11form,
- 31:12also
- 31:12a
- 31:13fear
- 31:13of
- 31:14losing
- 31:14oneself.
- 31:15You're
- 31:15gonna
- 31:15be
- 31:15all
- 31:16gone.
- 31:17You're
- 31:18consumed
- 31:19by
- 31:20the
- 31:20love
- 31:20for
- 31:21the
- 31:21beloved.
- 31:22And
- 31:22the
- 31:22love
- 31:23of
- 31:23the
- 31:23beloved
- 31:24for
- 31:24the
- 31:24soul
- 31:25can
- 31:25be
- 31:26intense
- 31:26and
- 31:26consuming
- 31:28and
- 31:28powerful.
- 31:29That
- 31:29the
- 31:29soul
- 31:30will
- 31:30be
- 31:30incinerated,
- 31:31will
- 31:31be
- 31:31absorbed,
- 31:32you
- 31:33know,
- 31:34become
- 31:35no
- 31:35more
- 31:36as
- 31:36an
- 31:37individual.
- 31:38Yeah.
- 31:38Habib.
- 31:38Jesus
- 31:39said
- 31:39In
- 31:39Luke
- 31:39chapter
- 31:4014,
- 31:40he
- 31:40says,
- 31:40he
- 31:41that
- 31:41forsaketh
- 31:42not
- 31:42all
- 31:42that
- 31:43he
- 31:43hath
- 31:43cannot
- 31:43be
- 31:43my
- 31:44disciple.
- 31:45In
- 31:46other
- 31:46places
- 31:46he
- 31:46names
- 31:47it,
- 31:47you
- 31:47know,
- 31:47your
- 31:47family,
- 31:48your
- 31:48children,
- 31:48your
- 31:48wife,
- 31:49you
- 31:49know,
- 31:49the
- 31:49world,
- 31:50even
- 31:51hate
- 31:51your
- 31:52own
- 31:52self.
- 31:53You
- 31:53can't
- 31:53follow
- 31:54me.
- 31:54So
- 31:54there's
- 31:55a
- 31:55real
- 31:55sense
- 31:56of
- 31:56the.
- 31:56It
- 31:57runs
- 31:57throughout
- 31:57at
- 31:58least
- 31:58the
- 31:58Gospels,
- 31:59this
- 31:59sense
- 31:59of
- 32:00what
- 32:00you're
- 32:00talking
- 32:00about,
- 32:00of
- 32:01just
- 32:01completely.
- 32:02Obviously,
- 32:02his
- 32:02path
- 32:03was
- 32:03the
- 32:03path
- 32:03of
- 32:04love.
- 32:04Yeah.
- 32:05What
- 32:05he
- 32:05taught,
- 32:06really.
- 32:06That's
- 32:06right.
- 32:07Yeah.
- 32:07Jesus
- 32:08is
- 32:08very
- 32:08well
- 32:08known
- 32:09as
- 32:09the
- 32:09path
- 32:09of
- 32:09love.
- 32:10Yeah.
- 32:10He
- 32:10said
- 32:10it
- 32:11was
- 32:11all
- 32:11boiled
- 32:12down,
- 32:12all
- 32:12the
- 32:13law,
- 32:13the
- 32:13Old
- 32:13Testament,
- 32:14all
- 32:14the
- 32:14this,
- 32:14Thou
- 32:15that
- 32:15and
- 32:15the
- 32:15other.
- 32:16Bottle
- 32:16down
- 32:16to
- 32:17two
- 32:17things,
- 32:17is
- 32:17to
- 32:17love
- 32:18God
- 32:18with
- 32:19all
- 32:19your
- 32:19heart,
- 32:19all
- 32:19your
- 32:20soul
- 32:20and
- 32:20all
- 32:20your
- 32:20being
- 32:21and
- 32:21your
- 32:21neighbor
- 32:21as
- 32:22yourself.
- 32:22He
- 32:22said
- 32:22that's
- 32:23the
- 32:23whole
- 32:23thing
- 32:23right
- 32:23there.
- 32:25I
- 32:25think.
- 32:25I
- 32:25mean,
- 32:26from
- 32:26the
- 32:26perspective
- 32:27of
- 32:27the
- 32:27path
- 32:28of
- 32:28the
- 32:28heart,
- 32:28that
- 32:28is
- 32:29the
- 32:29whole
- 32:29thing.
- 32:30And
- 32:30there's
- 32:30a
- 32:30sense
- 32:31in
- 32:31undertaking
- 32:32the
- 32:32spiritual
- 32:32path
- 32:33that
- 32:33we
- 32:33usually
- 32:34we're
- 32:34looking
- 32:34for
- 32:35some
- 32:35consolation
- 32:36and
- 32:37relief
- 32:39and
- 32:39our
- 32:40various
- 32:40pains
- 32:40and
- 32:41fears
- 32:41and
- 32:41insecurities.
- 32:42Yet
- 32:42you
- 32:43point
- 32:43out
- 32:43that,
- 32:44in
- 32:44fact,
- 32:44you
- 32:45say
- 32:45very
- 32:45explicitly,
- 32:46there's
- 32:46no
- 32:46safety
- 32:47in
- 32:47the
- 32:47path
- 32:47of
- 32:47love.
- 32:47That
- 32:48it
- 32:48really
- 32:48requires
- 32:49a
- 32:50vulnerability
- 32:51and
- 32:51openness
- 32:51that
- 32:52is
- 32:53extreme.
- 32:54Yeah,
- 32:54vulnerability,
- 32:55openness.
- 32:56And
- 32:57dealing
- 32:57with
- 32:57all
- 32:58the
- 32:58woundings
- 32:58of
- 32:59the
- 32:59heart,
- 33:00human
- 33:01soul.
- 33:02Human
- 33:02beings
- 33:02have
- 33:03a
- 33:03lot
- 33:03of
- 33:03woundings
- 33:04that
- 33:04happened
- 33:05along
- 33:06their
- 33:06life
- 33:06from
- 33:07earlier
- 33:07on.
- 33:10Have
- 33:10to
- 33:10do
- 33:10with
- 33:11love.
- 33:11Loved
- 33:12or
- 33:12not
- 33:12loved.
- 33:12Losing
- 33:13love
- 33:13betrayed
- 33:14all
- 33:14of
- 33:14that
- 33:15deep
- 33:16wounding.
- 33:16And
- 33:17so
- 33:17we
- 33:18encounter
- 33:18those
- 33:18on
- 33:19the
- 33:19path
- 33:19of
- 33:19love.
- 33:21To
- 33:21empty
- 33:21the
- 33:22heart
- 33:22means
- 33:23we
- 33:23have
- 33:23to
- 33:23feel
- 33:24what's
- 33:24in
- 33:24the
- 33:24heart.
- 33:25And
- 33:26much
- 33:26of
- 33:26it
- 33:27is.
- 33:27Of
- 33:27course,
- 33:28we
- 33:28have
- 33:28the
- 33:28hatred
- 33:29and
- 33:29the
- 33:29anger
- 33:30and
- 33:30this
- 33:30and
- 33:30that.
- 33:30But
- 33:31also
- 33:31the
- 33:31woundings
- 33:33and
- 33:33the
- 33:33terror
- 33:34too,
- 33:35that
- 33:35can
- 33:35arise.
- 33:36There's
- 33:37a
- 33:37lot
- 33:37that
- 33:38we
- 33:39go
- 33:39through
- 33:39on
- 33:39the
- 33:40path
- 33:40of
- 33:40love.
- 33:41And
- 33:41it's
- 33:41not
- 33:42an
- 33:42easy
- 33:42path.
- 33:43But
- 33:44the
- 33:44thing
- 33:44is,
- 33:44you
- 33:45know,
- 33:46the
- 33:46path
- 33:47of
- 33:47love.
- 33:47The
- 33:47other
- 33:48thing
- 33:48about
- 33:48it
- 33:49is
- 33:49not
- 33:50methodical
- 33:52and
- 33:52it
- 33:52is
- 33:53not
- 33:53intentional.
- 33:55You
- 33:56cannot
- 33:56make
- 33:56it
- 33:57happen.
- 33:58You
- 33:59cannot
- 33:59practice
- 34:01happens.
- 34:03That's
- 34:03how
- 34:03I
- 34:04know
- 34:04it.
- 34:04It
- 34:04happens.
- 34:06I
- 34:06wasn't
- 34:06trying
- 34:07to
- 34:07go
- 34:07through
- 34:08the
- 34:08path
- 34:08of
- 34:08love.
- 34:08I
- 34:09wasn't
- 34:09practicing
- 34:10the
- 34:10path
- 34:10of
- 34:10love.
- 34:11Different,
- 34:11like
- 34:11meditation,
- 34:12you
- 34:12sit
- 34:12and
- 34:12meditate.
- 34:14I
- 34:14know
- 34:15in
- 34:15some
- 34:15bhakti
- 34:16path
- 34:16they
- 34:16chant
- 34:17and
- 34:17this
- 34:17and
- 34:17that.
- 34:18And
- 34:18you
- 34:18know,
- 34:20that
- 34:20mavlavi.
- 34:21They
- 34:21do
- 34:21their
- 34:22whirling
- 34:23and
- 34:23all
- 34:23that.
- 34:24But
- 34:24that
- 34:24doesn't
- 34:25really.
- 34:25Whirling
- 34:26doesn't
- 34:26activate
- 34:26the
- 34:27heart.
- 34:27It
- 34:27just
- 34:27takes
- 34:28you
- 34:28to
- 34:28a
- 34:28state
- 34:28of
- 34:28stillness,
- 34:30you
- 34:30know.
- 34:31And
- 34:31the
- 34:31heart.
- 34:32The
- 34:32path
- 34:32of
- 34:32the
- 34:32heart
- 34:33is
- 34:33like
- 34:33something
- 34:34happened
- 34:34in
- 34:34the
- 34:34heart.
- 34:35That
- 34:35comes
- 34:35from.
- 34:36Like
- 34:36a
- 34:36blessing
- 34:38from
- 34:38beyond
- 34:39the
- 34:39person.
- 34:41Like
- 34:42the
- 34:42beloved
- 34:44works
- 34:45on
- 34:45the
- 34:45heart,
- 34:47works
- 34:47on
- 34:48the
- 34:48soul.
- 34:49And
- 34:50throws
- 34:51it
- 34:51nearer
- 34:52and
- 34:53throws
- 34:53it
- 34:54nearer.
- 34:54The
- 34:55soul
- 34:55feels
- 34:56it
- 34:56is
- 34:58getting
- 34:59nearer
- 34:59or
- 34:59wanting
- 35:00to
- 35:00get
- 35:00nearer.
- 35:01But
- 35:01in
- 35:02that
- 35:02nearness,
- 35:03it
- 35:04encounters
- 35:04all
- 35:05the
- 35:05obstacles,
- 35:05all
- 35:06the
- 35:06difficulties,
- 35:06all
- 35:07the
- 35:07pain,
- 35:07all
- 35:07the
- 35:08suffering
- 35:09that
- 35:09is
- 35:09filling
- 35:10the
- 35:10heart.
- 35:10For
- 35:10most
- 35:11human
- 35:11beings,
- 35:11their
- 35:12hearts
- 35:12are
- 35:12full
- 35:12of
- 35:12stuff.
- 35:13I
- 35:13mean,
- 35:13look
- 35:13at
- 35:13the
- 35:13human
- 35:14beings,
- 35:14what
- 35:14they
- 35:14do
- 35:15with
- 35:15each
- 35:15other.
- 35:15Why
- 35:15is
- 35:16that?
- 35:16Because
- 35:16their
- 35:17heart
- 35:17is
- 35:17full
- 35:17of
- 35:18garbage.
- 35:19Full
- 35:19of
- 35:19wounding
- 35:20and
- 35:20hatred
- 35:21and
- 35:21envy.
- 35:22And
- 35:22I
- 35:23mean,
- 35:23so
- 35:24love
- 35:25is
- 35:25really
- 35:25sorely
- 35:26needed
- 35:27these
- 35:27days
- 35:28on
- 35:28earth,
- 35:29you
- 35:29know,
- 35:30especially
- 35:30these
- 35:31days.
- 35:31But
- 35:31it's
- 35:31always
- 35:32love.
- 35:33The
- 35:33path
- 35:34of
- 35:34love
- 35:35is
- 35:35a
- 35:35way
- 35:35that.
- 35:36That's
- 35:37one
- 35:37thing
- 35:37I
- 35:37said
- 35:38for
- 35:38me,
- 35:39the
- 35:39way
- 35:39I
- 35:39know
- 35:39it,
- 35:40I
- 35:41teach
- 35:41it.
- 35:41I
- 35:42don't
- 35:42see
- 35:42everybody
- 35:43going
- 35:43through
- 35:43it.
- 35:44People
- 35:45go
- 35:45through
- 35:45different
- 35:45degrees.
- 35:46But
- 35:46for
- 35:46it
- 35:47to
- 35:47actually
- 35:47happen
- 35:47to
- 35:48completion.
- 35:49It
- 35:49has
- 35:49to
- 35:50be
- 35:50its
- 35:50own
- 35:51natural,
- 35:51spontaneous
- 35:53unfolding.
- 35:55And
- 35:55there
- 35:56is.
- 35:56I
- 35:56don't
- 35:56want
- 35:56to
- 35:56jump
- 35:57ahead
- 35:57in
- 35:57the
- 35:57book.
- 35:57But
- 35:58there
- 35:58is
- 35:58a
- 35:58resolution
- 36:00to
- 36:00this
- 36:01suffering
- 36:01and
- 36:01fear
- 36:02and
- 36:03these
- 36:03different
- 36:03things
- 36:03that
- 36:03get
- 36:04in
- 36:04the
- 36:04way
- 36:04of
- 36:04our
- 36:05opening
- 36:05of
- 36:06our
- 36:06heart
- 36:06up
- 36:07to
- 36:07the
- 36:07inner
- 36:07beloved.
- 36:08And
- 36:09at
- 36:09some
- 36:09point,
- 36:10the
- 36:11love
- 36:11becomes
- 36:12so
- 36:12great
- 36:12that
- 36:12all
- 36:13that
- 36:13fear
- 36:13goes
- 36:13away.
- 36:14In
- 36:15other
- 36:15words,
- 36:15even
- 36:15the
- 36:15loss
- 36:16of
- 36:16self
- 36:16is
- 36:17not
- 36:17there
- 36:17because
- 36:18you
- 36:18simply
- 36:18want
- 36:19to
- 36:19dissolve
- 36:19and
- 36:19you
- 36:19want
- 36:20to
- 36:20be
- 36:20one
- 36:20with
- 36:21the
- 36:21inner
- 36:21beloved.
- 36:22And
- 36:22your
- 36:23little
- 36:23ego
- 36:23self
- 36:24or
- 36:24little
- 36:24individual
- 36:25self
- 36:25seems
- 36:26pretty
- 36:26irrelevant
- 36:26at
- 36:26that
- 36:27point.
- 36:27So
- 36:27there's
- 36:28not
- 36:28a
- 36:28fear
- 36:28of
- 36:28loss.
- 36:28There's
- 36:29just
- 36:29an
- 36:29attraction
- 36:30to
- 36:30wanting
- 36:30to
- 36:31be
- 36:31that
- 36:32the
- 36:32beloved.
- 36:33True.
- 36:34I
- 36:34mean,
- 36:34the
- 36:35more.
- 36:35The
- 36:35closer.
- 36:36The
- 36:36nearer
- 36:37we
- 36:37are
- 36:37to
- 36:37the
- 36:37beloved,
- 36:38the
- 36:38more
- 36:39we
- 36:39feel
- 36:40its
- 36:40effect.
- 36:41And
- 36:41one
- 36:42thing
- 36:42I
- 36:42want
- 36:42to
- 36:43add
- 36:43to
- 36:43the
- 36:43path
- 36:44we're
- 36:44talking
- 36:44about
- 36:44the
- 36:45difficulties
- 36:45and
- 36:46the
- 36:46burnings
- 36:47and
- 36:48fear,
- 36:49but
- 36:49also
- 36:49the
- 36:49path
- 36:50of
- 36:50love
- 36:50includes
- 36:51many
- 36:51kind
- 36:52of
- 36:52joys
- 36:53and
- 36:53meltings
- 36:54and
- 36:54love
- 36:55and
- 36:55feeling,
- 36:57you
- 36:57know,
- 36:58overwhelmed
- 36:59and
- 36:59flooded
- 37:00with
- 37:00love
- 37:01and
- 37:01feeling
- 37:02passionate,
- 37:03deep
- 37:03love
- 37:04and
- 37:05feeling
- 37:05the
- 37:05joy,
- 37:06feeling
- 37:07nearer.
- 37:07You're
- 37:07getting
- 37:07closer,
- 37:08and
- 37:08that
- 37:08fills
- 37:09us
- 37:09with
- 37:09joy.
- 37:09The
- 37:10sun
- 37:10comes,
- 37:11that's
- 37:11coming
- 37:12out.
- 37:12And
- 37:13so
- 37:14it
- 37:14has
- 37:14a
- 37:15mixture
- 37:16of
- 37:16both
- 37:16the
- 37:16heartache
- 37:18and
- 37:19the
- 37:19melting
- 37:20love,
- 37:20the
- 37:20sweetness,
- 37:22because
- 37:22there's
- 37:22love.
- 37:23Love
- 37:24has
- 37:24all
- 37:24kinds
- 37:25of
- 37:25sweetness.
- 37:25Many
- 37:26kind
- 37:26of
- 37:26love,
- 37:27many
- 37:27levels
- 37:28of
- 37:28love
- 37:28that
- 37:29goes
- 37:29through
- 37:29the
- 37:30whole
- 37:30path.
- 37:31So
- 37:32it's
- 37:32only
- 37:33suffering.
- 37:33And
- 37:34most
- 37:35people
- 37:35won't
- 37:35do
- 37:35it.
- 37:38Stay
- 37:38tuned
- 37:39for
- 37:39part
- 37:39two
- 37:39of
- 37:40this
- 37:40deep
- 37:40dive
- 37:40into
- 37:41the
- 37:41ultimate
- 37:42with
- 37:42this
- 37:42extraordinary
- 37:43teacher.
- 37:43Ah,
- 37:44Almaas,
- 37:45thank
- 37:45you
- 37:45very
- 37:45much
- 37:46for
- 37:46being
- 37:46a
- 37:46part
- 37:47of
- 37:47this
- 37:47conversation.
- 37:48We
- 37:48hope
- 37:48that
- 37:49you
- 37:49were
- 37:49moved,
- 37:49as
- 37:50we
- 37:50are
- 37:50moved,
- 37:51being
- 37:51part
- 37:51of
- 37:51it
- 37:51ourselves.
- 37:52We'd
- 37:52also
- 37:53like
- 37:53to
- 37:53say
- 37:53that
- 37:54this
- 37:54is
- 37:54being
- 37:54funded
- 37:55by
- 37:55Roger
- 37:55and
- 37:56myself.
- 37:56It
- 37:56comes
- 37:56out
- 37:56of
- 37:56our
- 37:57pockets.
- 37:57So
- 37:57if
- 37:57you
- 37:58would
- 37:58like
- 37:58to
- 37:58help
- 37:58us
- 37:59to.
- 37:59Mainly
- 38:00to
- 38:00get
- 38:00this
- 38:00podcast
- 38:01out
- 38:01to
- 38:01more
- 38:01people
- 38:02because
- 38:02the
- 38:02bigger
- 38:03audience
- 38:03have,
- 38:03which
- 38:03is
- 38:03steadily
- 38:04growing,
- 38:04but
- 38:04the
- 38:05more
- 38:05people
- 38:05we
- 38:05can
- 38:05reach
- 38:06and
- 38:06the
- 38:06more
- 38:06marketing
- 38:06we
- 38:07can
- 38:07do,
- 38:07the
- 38:07more
- 38:08positive
- 38:08effect
- 38:09we
- 38:09can
- 38:09have
- 38:09on
- 38:09the
- 38:09world.
- 38:10So
- 38:10we've
- 38:10done
- 38:10a
- 38:11couple
- 38:11of
- 38:11ways,
- 38:11but
- 38:11we'd
- 38:11like
- 38:12you
- 38:12to
- 38:12buy
- 38:12us
- 38:13a
- 38:13cup
- 38:13of
- 38:13coffee.
- 38:13Very
- 38:14simple.
- 38:14And
- 38:14I
- 38:14do
- 38:14that
- 38:15with
- 38:15podcasts
- 38:16that
- 38:16I
- 38:16support
- 38:17and
- 38:17I
- 38:18find
- 38:18it's
- 38:18very
- 38:18satisfying.
- 38:19So
- 38:19thank
- 38:20you
- 38:20for
- 38:20your
- 38:20help,
- 38:20thank
- 38:21you
- 38:21for
- 38:21your
- 38:21presence
- 38:21and
- 38:22thank
- 38:22you
- 38:22for
- 38:22all
- 38:22you
- 38:23are
- 38:23and
- 38:23all
- 38:23you
- 38:24do.
- 38:24We
- 38:24love
- 38:24you.