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Hey, everybody, it's Jeff. We wanted to let you know we recorded
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this podcast on Wednesday, December twenty seventh, twenty twenty three. By the
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time you hear this, some things may have changed, but we hope you
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enjoy our preview podcast. All right, everybody, you're listening to Opposition Territory
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Here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports
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podcast show in the world that's right over ten and a half years strong,
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got a great preview show coming to you. Man, I am so excited.
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I don't know if excited is actually the word, but I'm intrigued by
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where this Philadelphia team is gonna possibly go. Here in week seventeen after a
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win against the New York Giants, and it has been nothing but negativity with
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regard to this team. It's absolutely astonishing what we are hearing from various reports
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here and there. But this week here at the PST podcast show, on
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this particular preview show, we've got a great guest. We're gonna get into
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this Cardinals Eagles matchup and what we may see from this Cardinals team. We
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got a great guest. Let's get to it, and it is great to
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have back on the show to get into this Eagles Cardinals preview, and he's
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for NFL player love having former players on. They're able to talk candidly and
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honestly with us. We've had him on before it it's been such great conversations
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in the past. You can find him on Twitter at ed Smith Speaks and
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he's part of the Bleeve podcast network and talking everything Cardinals. He's got a
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national show as well. Let's introduce him here, mister Ed Smith. Hey,
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you doing, buddy, Jeff. Great to be on with you,
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man, Hope, as we were talking before, so glad you had great
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holidays and hopefu all your listeners are having a great holiday season as well.
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Now the same to you, my friend, Hey, I know the national
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sportsmap dot com as well and where you know. Yeah, so yeah,
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we're doing our day, man, All right, very good. Well,
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hey, let's get into this Cardinals Eagles preview show here. And it's such
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an interesting time to be a Philadelphia Eagles sports fan here a Philadelphi Eagles fan,
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I should say, interesting time for Cardinals nation as well as this team
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has really not had that great of a season. I mean, it's been
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it's been a tough year for the Cardinals on both sides of the ball,
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and I think ed heading into this season, there seemed to be some hope
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for more than three wins at this point, you know, as we're heading
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into week seventeen. I remember hearing about the offensive line, just hearing about
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some of the skill position players, which we're going to get to in a
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bit. But I'm wondering, as you're reflecting on this season, what's one
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word to describe this Cardinal season here? And why would you choose that one
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word? My word is expected? Oh okay, getting exactly what we expected,
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at least from my point of view. And you know, the you
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know, the faithful fans, you know they come to every season, fans
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come in thinking, hey, there's you never know what could happen. Look
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at so many other organizations around, you know, the National Football League,
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everybody thought Houston was going to be a dumpster fire. Here we are fighting
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for a playoff spot. You know, in the initial part of the season,
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you know, we knew we were coming in without Kyler Murray. Uh
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you know, when he was coming back, we didn't know, but there
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was hope. You start off the season with Josh Dobbs playing halfway decent,
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but he was playing with a roster Jeff that was totally just stripped of all
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talent, you know, not talking all the way back into last off season.
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What they did, you know, new general managers, new coach taking
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over for Kime and Kingsbury. They stripped this thing down to the bone.
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Didn't replay this free agency yseas and they didn't go out and spend a lot
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of money. So they went through the draft, tried to put you know,
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fill a couple holes that type of thing, but there was no in
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my opinion. There was no expectation that this was going to be a team
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that was going to win a bunch of games. Now what they you know,
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for me, you know, with Kyler, you know, waiting for
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him to come back. He eventually did, and and people were still holding
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out like, well, we get we're getting Kyler back. And I was
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like, wait a minute, We're getting Kyler back, but he's doing this
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roster. We didn't realize he's not bringing a bunch of his friends with him,
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you know, So you know, it just it is what it is,
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you know. We you know, it's been some good, but it's
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been a lot of bad, especially if you look at the record three and
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twelve right now, and there's not much you can say other than for me,
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this is exactly what I expected. Man. And you follow the Cardinals
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more than I do, my friend. You you follow this team inside and
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out, and for me, I guess to go back. What I initially
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was saying was that I think because the offensive line I think was going to
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be at least I saw it as going to be somewhat solid. And for
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me, you know, and you've been an NFL player, if you have
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a solid offensive line, that's really gonna help set the stage for so much
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from an offensive perspective. And you know, I thought having that offensive line
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and a solid offensive line was really going to pay dividends, and it really
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it really didn't at all. So maybe my theory is going to be wrong.
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Well, you know what they did, Jeff, and what awesome for
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it and Gannon are trying to do. They're paying for the sins of the
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prior regime. Yeah, time and Kingsbury to them offensive line. I mean,
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how many times did we draft guys in the fourth, fifth, sixth
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round? Yeah, and just totally you know, not even pay attention to
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that part of the you know, the foundation and and and you know you're
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getting guys in the fourth, phy six rounds. It's like, okay,
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what do you expect going down? Getting second tier free aging guys, And
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there was no attention to detail in that portion of you know. But what
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I like is Austin Ford again and one of the first things they did and
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when I'm drafted Pasis in the first round, and that was the beginning I
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think of trying to solidify that. But it's gonna take a whole lot more
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than him, you know. But yeah, I mean that's basically where they're
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starting from scratch, but they're they're at least paying attention to that offensive line
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to start out here with Austin fort Gannon. Yeah, it's really interesting.
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You mentioned Jonathan Gannon and I want to get into him next coming from Philadelphia
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to Arizona, and you know, there were a lot of folks here in
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Philadelphia that wanted to run him out of town even though they got to the
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super Bowl last year. But you know, you know a lot of fans
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thinking, you know, they understand coaching, of of course, and hey,
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believe me, there were times when I was not the biggest Jonathan Gannon
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fan in the world, talking about on this podcast a number of times.
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But I'm wondering, as he's moved over to Arizona in his first season thus
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far, what has he brought to the team in terms of positive attributes and
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what does he need to improve on as well, you know, as they
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kind of look, they're looking already towards this offseason and next year, so
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we can kind of get into the positives and what he needs to improve on.
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What are your thoughts, ed, Well, great question. I mean,
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obviously the record doesn't reflect what the job that I think he's doing starting
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in the offseason, Jeff, he's you know, he started bringing caountability and
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kind of trying to improve the culture from where it was. You know,
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Kingsbury, no disrespect to him, but he led kind of a loose ship
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and you know even with Kyle of his way, he handled Kyler Murray and
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different things that was all out there. And what what Gainnon has done starting
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from training camp. You know, accountability for you know, being on time
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for meetings. No, you know, if you're gonna eat, make sure
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you do that before you get into meetings. You know, different things like
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that, hustling on the field, those little small things that lead to the
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big things. And you know, my opinion, you know the next thing
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that he's done because obviously, once again you look at the record, it
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doesn't look good, but these guys are out there playing hard for him,
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and that's half the battle. I mean, when you're looking at this record,
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you could think and I go back to twenty eighteen when we had Wilkes
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as our head coach here Man, and it was it was a totally different
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vibe because you could tell, like in second half of games and even just
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coming out in games. It was like a lack of days ago. It
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was like guys were not hustling and they you could I'm not gonna use the
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Q word, but it looked like dudes are out there quitting a little bit
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from time to time and not giving their full effort. The one thing I
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like about Ganning so far is regardless of what the score is, and we
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all know they're being they're going out there a lot of times and coaches know,
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hey, we're out talented out there right now. You go out there
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and you play against Sam Fran with this roster and you know, you give
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all the pep talk you want, but you know we don't. We're going
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out there with pop guns and they got guns. We're really ammunition. And
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so but the thing I like that he's led these guys and they have not
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given up on him, even at three and twelve, fighting hard, and
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you know, no dissension in the ranks either, not a lot of chatter
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coming out of the locker room and stuff like that. So that's the good.
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On the flip side, I'd like to see him improve one he again
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and have to improve this roster. That's first and foremost. The Townspecia exactly.
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You're not gonna win without town, So that's the first thing they have
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to do. The other thing for getting I'd love for him to get out
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of this conservative mode a little bit. And when I say that, it's
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like, you know, when you're going in with less talents time, you
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gotta sometimes dig deep into that bag and maybe have a little more trickery or
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hey, we got to We're not gonna have twenty play drives maybe every now
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and then, we got to just heave it down the field. This offense
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with Petsing so far has been so dink and dunk, and you know,
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we'll talk about the skill positions and stuff like that players in a minute here,
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but everything has been so conservative, you know, And when you first
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get a job, you don't want to look like a fool by going out
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there and doing all the crazy stuff like Staley did over in you know,
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La with the with the Chargers. But I just think he's gonna have to
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get a little more aggressive in his play call and kind of pursuit of trying
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to get this team to the next level, because you're not gonna do it,
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like I said, the way we've done it so far offensively. Yeah,
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you mentioned the skill players, and I really wanted to get your assessments
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on what we have seen from them, specifically running back and wide receiver as
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well, because James Connor he's near the bottom statistically as it pertains to you
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know, starting running backs in the NFL. Trey McBride is the leading receiver
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on the team with seven hundred and forty three yards only two touchdowns. Marquis
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Brown He's got four touchdowns. So I'm wondering, you know, why haven't
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the skill players really been able to kind of get over that hump this season
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in terms of their productivity. I mean, is it their skill level ed
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or you know, is it the offensive scheme accombination of both. I don't
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know, you've been watching these games. What are your thoughts? First and
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foremost that we talked about a few minutes ago with the offensive line, we're
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still building that if you don't have that push up front or the protection,
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everything kind of falls to the side from there, you know. And James
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Connor good running back, not great. Don't love the scheme, especially when
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Murray's in there, because we do a lot of stuff from the pistol.
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Jeff yep and in my opinion. Connor is a guy you got to get
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going downhill from the start, quarterback under center, you know, going run
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in power run, whatever it is getting him going seven yards deep coming downfield.
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I don't like this scheme with all the Reid option. You know,
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it's kind of are you getting the ball you're not, you know, that
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type of thing. That's not Connor's thing. As far as the you know,
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the Trey McBride, the injury to Ertz was probably the best thing to
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happen to this offensive trade. McBride. You hate to see another player go
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down, but obviously Ertz was taking snaps away from Trey, and you know,
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Erth has had his time. This is Trey has taken full you know,
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advantage of you know, Earth's going down. He's become the number one
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option as far as even before Murray came back, and it's great. I
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think he'll get with his maturity moving forward. He's a piece you no longer
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have to worry about in the offense. On the outside, Jeff, we've
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got absolutely nothing out there. And if you think about Marquis, Marquise was
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brought in here as a supplement when Hopkins went went it was suspended a couple
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of years ago with you know, we got that PD suspension. We all
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didn't know at the time. They get around the first round pick to bring
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Marques in here, and you think about it, Mark Piece is not a
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number one receive a one. He's small, he doesn't have a great catch
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you know, a catch radius as they call it. He's more of a
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dude. When you have the number one in there, he's over the top
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threat. But if you're talking about covering him and that's all you have to
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do, I mean, that makes it easy for defense. And along with
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our other you know, wide receivers, we just don't have the experience in
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the talent. You run through, you run through our roster and you're like,
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who are these got? You literally have to go to the program to
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find out who our wide receiver group is. And that's not scaring defenses.
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The scheme, along with the lack of talent, has just been a total
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you know bomb here so far. But you know, as I mentioned,
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they're building it. So that's another position, another group that they're really going
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to have to pay attention to through free agencies, through draft. You never
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know might be looking at that way up there in the draft you know,
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do you go out and spend that first pick on that talent there? But
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yeah, we just don't have the talent and the scheme was not built,
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you know, for the long haul as well. We'll see what happens with
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this Cardinals wide outs this coming week, and I'll tell you that because the
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Eagles secondary stinks and we're gonna end up seeing what is going to happen there
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because the Giants wide receiver corps there were certain elements at certain points during the
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game where they had a decent game. So we're gonna wait and see what
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happens there. But as we're moving along here, we wanted to get into
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Cardinals defense. I mean, they've allowed the sixth most total yards of any
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team in the NFL, and frankly, the Eagles really aren't that much better.
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This Eagles defense a complete one to eighty from where they were last year,
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so very dominant and now this year. Of course, yes there have
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been injuries, but aside from that, just not a lot of cohesive play
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from the Eagles defense. I think we're seeing that also with this Cardinals defense
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too. So when you were fleed on this season, ed, is is
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is it the defensive tackle position two, which it's a position that some say
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has been neglected for quite some time, or is it another defensive position that
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really seems to be the Achilles heel for this Cardinals defense? Like, what
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are you thinking and what have you seen throughout the season? Once again,
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Jeff, it's everything and we don't have the guys up front. You know,
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I think about this, Jeff. It wasn't too long ago we had
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Channel Jones, JJ Watt, Byron Murphy, Zack Call. He could run
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through names that we had here and now are you literally once again you was
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like who you know? Like whould they say you had to go to the
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program or go to google the pool guys up And he's like, we just
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don't have the off the defensive guys. You know, we all have to
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Xavan Collins, but you know he's kind of a hybrid guy. We let
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Isaiah Simmons go because he wasn't a fit here, so you know, there
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once again, it's like they're trying to figure it out on the fly.
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We know that this was the defense, regardless of who was calling the plays,
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was gonna be at a disadvance because we don't have the guys up front.
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We also don't have the guys in the back to help you guys up
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front. So it's just a total like you can pick. It's almost like
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pick your poison. When you're trying to tack this Cardinals defense. You want
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to run on them, yes, you want to throw on them, yes.
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And when we you know, we decided to throw pressure at you,
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then we're exposing the back end and we don't throw pressure at you, We're
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just letting the quarterback sit back there and pick you know, eeny meenie miney
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mo. So it's it's just one of those things where once again they stripped
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the roster down those names that we had, you know, through retirement and
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through not re signing guys, we were just really uh just not don't have
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enough upfront to really cause anybody any Yanks, uh. And we've seen that
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throughout the season. I mean, when we had some leads and stuff like
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that, we didn't have enough to hold other teams off, or we just
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got beat right from the start and we find ourselves in a hole. So
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it's just been it's been a really bad season out here all the way around
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so far. I think this upcoming game with the Eagles here ed it could
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be sixty three to sixty at the end of the game. Yeah, this
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could be a get right game for both you know, for both offenses.
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On the flip side, you know, you guys could beat us like an
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old real gang out in the backyard. We just don't know. Well again,
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folks, we're talking to Ed Smith and Ed Smith speaks on Twitter,
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part of the Believe Podcast Network. Absolutely love talking to him, and as
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we do on every Opposition Territory podcast every week this season, we like to
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get into some matchups. So we also like to get into what each team
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is going to need to hit on for a win. So let's start with
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some matchups here going into week seventeen. Here, Ed, So, when
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you're looking at this matchup Cards against the Eagles here, where do you think
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the Cardinals are most vulnerable from an offensive perspective? And we may have a
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few we've probably already talked about it, but yeah, where the Cardinal's most
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vulnerable on offense? Well, you know with Kyler, he's coming back from
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that knee, Jeff, and you know the ACL like people look at the
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calendar like, wow, he's back. He's not going to be fully back
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until the full off season. After he makes hopefully makes it through the last
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couple of games here healthy, you get him into a full off season where
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he can continue to strengthen the knee, and then the other thing is get
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confidence in that knee as well. It's not just the physical sometimes it's the
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mental because he does not currently look like hisself out there. Meaning normally he
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is so dynamic and he's you know, he's had a scrambler or two here
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in games, but there are games where he just takes over with his legs.
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When he's fully healthy, he's just not right there right now. And
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when he's not healthy, when he's just sitting in the pocket, he becomes
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an average quarterback. And because of his size, teams have the ability if
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you can keep him in the pocket, keep him from scrambling, he becomes
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even of an average quarterback if you ask me, because that's not his games.
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Game is getting it out on the edges. You never know, you
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can, you know, extend, you know your drives. He can pop
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one out and nextly you know he's sixty yards down the field or scoring or
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doing something crazy like he did against Ball. Oh, it was the the
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Raiders last year with like an eighteen second scramble for a touchdown or whatever it
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was. But because he's just not he's not there right now with that knee,
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he becomes less dynamic the offensive line and our running game is even more
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predictable and easy to kind of control. And then because we don't have the
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weapons on the outside, and you know, the I guess, the hesitation
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to throw the ball down the field, all those make us just a tough
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watch sometime and very easy to defense. So our offense is not doing anything
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what you would call great right now, and I don't expect it to like
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explode in the next two games. I'm expecting to see a lot more of
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what we've seen since Kyler came back, which is, you know, it's
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not gonna be right until next year, until he gets better, until they
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getting more weapons to operate with as well. I think it's a fair assessment
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for sure. On the flip side of things here, ed, where do
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you think the Cardinals are most vulnerable on the defensive side of the ball?
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Man? But we're looking at this matchup, Yeah, we're looking at this
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matchup with the Eagles. We're vulnerable if if you guys run, like I
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said, it's almost like, you know, pick your poison. What do
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you guys want to do to us? If you want to run against us,
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which I would advise, because that opens up everything up. You know,
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if you can run and we can't stop you, then we got to
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start sending booted down to the box and that opens everything up over the top.
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With your weapons with Smith and aj, you guys have so much you
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can do. I just would say, don't get antsy, you know,
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start the game, the ball, see where your advantages are, and then
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start picking us apart with you know, because like I said, we don't
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have the guys up front to stop you. We don't have the guys in
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the secondary to cover you, which is a bad recipe if you're playing NFL
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football. So you know, the Eagles do what they're supposed to do.
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Like I said, this could be a get right game in terms of feeling
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much better about yourselves because we came with the right game plan and used our
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heads and you know, like I said, just patience. There's not gonna
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be a whole lot of in my opinion, angst coming from the other side
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of the ball this Sunday, all right, Well, to close us out
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here talking about what both teams are going to need to hit on for a
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win. What's the one thing and the Cardinals will need to hit on this
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week for a win? What's that one thing? Man? I'm telling you
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a little bit, a little bit of luck, you know, control us,
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control the ball as much as we can, try to keep the ball
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away from the egles. Jeff, that would be our best formula. Why
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don't you mentioned earlier it could be a sixty to sixty three game. I
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don't think we haven't scored. I don't think we can score sixty three if
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you gave us eight quarters to do it in this game, this particular game.
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But the thing is just keep you know, for the Cardinals, keep
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the ball away from the eagles, or as much as possible, extend the
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drives when you can, and then take some shots up the field because as
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I mentioned, if you're trying to drive the ball, you know, fifteen
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yard drives, that's not going to work. I think every now and then
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you just got to get back there. Have something designed to at least make
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the ego secondary think we might go past them. But you know, to
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this point it just just hasn't materialized. And you know, after you got
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to protect Kyler. You know, like I said, he's not he's not
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he's not his normal superman's self right now. He's wearing the glasses and the
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suit and tie with Clark Kent right now. So you're going to protect that
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man and you know, keep him out of harm's way. And you know,
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if you got that running game going, I suggest they bring it.
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But I said, ball control, keep it away from the Eagles. No
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turnovers obviously, and you know I said, just try to pull the rabbit
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out that at that hat if you can something to you know, trick player
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here or too nothing. You know, I always talking to my radio partner,
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scare money, don't make money because we talk about going to the casino
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all the time. Scare money, don't make money. Man, you're scared
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to you know, just go out there and let let it go. You
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know, maybe, like I said, maybe we'll shock you guys, shot
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the Egles somehow. But just you know, I sually I'm expecting more of
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what we've seen over these last few weeks after one last thing out there too.
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Joe, Oh, all right, Eagle, the Cardinals, they would
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love to get a victory, but they would actually love more to play hard,
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look good, lose one by one or two, and stay in that
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number two drafting spot right now. You know that's in the back of some
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heads. Absolutely, we'd love to look great, maybe almost shocked, you
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know, and the Eagles kick a last second field goal, we go home
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feeling good, and we stay in that number two spot. As far as
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that draft, I think that's really interesting. That's an interesting angle for sure.
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Well, to close this out here, what's the one thing the Eagles
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are gonna need to hit on for a win this week against the Cardinals?
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Ed, Hey, man, just don't get cute. Just go out here.
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This is one of those just go do what you do. Run the
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ball, don't give fancy. Don't think Jalen's got to drop back and throw
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it forty five fifty times. This should be one of those games. Forty
24:27
five runs, fifteen to twenty passes. You know, we got our workmen
24:32
gloves on this week. We know we got a team that's much less talented
24:36
than us. To make sure we hit on our p's and q's, get
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after them on the defensive side of the ball. Don't give them. Here's
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the thing. If you can take a hope away early, then make this
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one of those ones where it was never in doubt. That's good here,
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and if the Eagles are fighting for this one at the very end, that's
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not a good sign. So you know, like I said, just come
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out, don't be cute, to do what you gotta do and know what
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you against on the other side of the ball. Get after it. You
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should come away with a victory. He's Ed Smith, Folks, part of
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the Believe podcast network. Also find him on the Twitter at eds ed Smith
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Speaks and tell him where you can find your national show out there, your
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nationally syndicated show. My friend. First off, I appreciate you, Deff,
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and happy New Year to you and your family and everybody. Yes,
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this again. Real. So man, I was gonna say, Man,
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I'd love to have you back on the show. Come down, come back
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on and join us, my friend, anytime, Man, anytime. Love
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that have you on our national show too on these days. We'll get you
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on. Sounds good to me, my friend. Okay, thanks Jeff.
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Of course I was kidding about the sixty three to sixty score. But look,
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I mean, both of these teams defense, they're just not performing at
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a high level. And I know the Eagles, you know Shaq Leonard this
26:18
past week had had an impact on the game after he was signed by this
26:22
Eagles front office. And the secondary still floundering. There's not that much of
26:27
a pass rush. I mean, there was only one sack against the New
26:30
York Giants, six quarterback hits. It hasn't been the greatest past few weeks,
26:37
of course, in terms of this pass rush. So let's see what
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happens. Let's see what happens here with this Cardinals team. Is Kyler Murray
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gonna be able to use those legs like Ed was saying, you know him
26:47
coming back from the injury hasn't necessarily been the Kyler Murray that we've been used
26:52
to seeing, you know, a few scrambles here and there, but you
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know, we'll see what this pass rush does. I think that's going to
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be an intriguing and to the radar aspect of this particular game coming up.
27:02
So again, thanks so much to Ed for coming on. It's so great
27:04
to talk to him. A plethora of knowledge when it comes to the game
27:08
of football, specifically the Arizona Cardinals. So it's gonna do it for us
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this week, folks. Philadelphia sports Table dot com. That's where you can
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27:29
our postgame podcast. We got a regular show of outtakes to finish up twenty
27:36
twenty three this week. Stay tuned for that in your podcast feed. I
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hope it's a good year for you. I hope it's a good twenty twenty
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four for you. Twenty twenty three closing up, take care of folks,
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we'll catch you next time, and m