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LONG IL list: Juan Soto, Mookie Betts, Hunter Brown + Machado’s kick · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Great, great weekend of games. Braun Palar and krats with
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  Speaker 1: you for a little Monday ft and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk to the man of the weekend during this show,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Adele. If you're a podcast only listener, Apple, Spotify, wherever,
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  Speaker 1: you'll get that episode probably the next day, just for
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  Speaker 1: you to know, we break those episodes up. I like
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  Speaker 1: to remind people from time to time, but you can
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  Speaker 1: always catch everything full live thing on YouTube. Also, if
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  Speaker 1: you're in the Chicago area on Marquee, great to see
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  Speaker 1: you both. And also we made a little announcement last night,
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  Speaker 1: So KP, you guys recently launched your show A Blue
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  Speaker 1: Bird Territory. You have a rival bird bird Land Territory
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  Speaker 1: in the American League east of the teams remaining that
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  Speaker 1: we don't cover consistently. This was the most requested so
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  Speaker 1: we are excited to announce the launch of that show.
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  Speaker 1: Former Orioles all star Brad Rock joining Steve Macjuski and
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  Speaker 1: Tim Barberlace. So we're excited to have those three, they know,
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  Speaker 1: the Orioles back in front, left and right. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think of the logo, KP.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's the thing I'm jealous. The
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  Speaker 2: most of the crab on home plate is a great
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  Speaker 2: touch and obviously the iconic brick building, tremendous logo. Whoever
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  Speaker 2: came up with that, they nailed it one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: That's like the epitome of Baltimore right there.
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  Speaker 3: Crab cakes and football, that's what we do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess crabcakes and baseball now, right, baseball is
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  Speaker 2: what we do.
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  Speaker 1: Yes last year, maybe not as much baseball after the
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  Speaker 1: first month and change, but I know the team has
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  Speaker 1: been off to a slow start. I'm less concerned about
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  Speaker 1: this team than last year's team. Is it going to
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  Speaker 1: be a fight, Will they make the playoffs? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to talk to Steve later. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to join us. We'll congratulate him, and then he'll give
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  Speaker 1: us the whole lowdown on the first weekend change of
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  Speaker 1: games for the Orioles. One other theme this weekend that
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  Speaker 1: I think was overshadowed by Joe Adele, which is nice,
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  Speaker 1: was injuries. We had a ton of injuries compared to say,
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  Speaker 1: the prior weekend. So we're gonna start with one. Here's
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  Speaker 1: charging them out, all right, KP will start with Mookie
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  Speaker 1: Bets so he leaves Saturday's game. They thought maybe it
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  Speaker 1: was from an ab He tweaked his back, he's he walks,
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  Speaker 1: he scores on the Freddie Freeman Devil Boom. He's out
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  Speaker 1: of the game. It's like, all right, back, might not
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  Speaker 1: be too bad. Maybe we'll take a series off. He's
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  Speaker 1: about to go play up in the turf in Toronto. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: it's an oblique, a right oblique for him, and the
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  Speaker 1: standard for that's four to six weeks. Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager,
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  Speaker 1: said he was hesitant to put a timetable down. He
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  Speaker 1: thinks that time missed could be less than that. Katie
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  Speaker 1: Woo was all over this story all weekend. You can
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  Speaker 1: hear her on Dodgers territory this week. But kp your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on the Dodgers losing Mookie bets for perhaps a
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  Speaker 1: month and more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, kind of interesting that it's oblique,
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  Speaker 2: because typically oblique is something that even the people watching
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  Speaker 2: on TV could notice.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Normally it's synonymous with the swing, and you see guys
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  Speaker 2: grab their side and you pretty much know immediately they've
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  Speaker 2: done something to their oblique. The fact that it kind
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  Speaker 2: of happened within the game, that it didn't happen on
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  Speaker 2: a particular swing, or that he didn't indicate that it
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  Speaker 2: happened on a particular swing and said that it was
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  Speaker 2: a back tightness or feeling in his back is a
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  Speaker 2: little interesting and it'll be curious to know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if he speaks to the media where it comes out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, how the injury actually happened. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if the Dodgers, if there's a team that could kind
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  Speaker 2: of overcome losing their starting shortstop and a superstar like
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  Speaker 2: movie Bets, the Dodgers are built for this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe perfect timing, you know. Insert Miguel Rojas going
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  Speaker 2: back to Toronto. You know, I think he had recently
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  Speaker 2: talked about never being booed in his career, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he's probably gonna get booed pretty heavily.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's oh so famili year in Toronto Blue Jays and
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  Speaker 2: Blue Jay fans everywhere's mind what he was able to
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  Speaker 2: do in Game seven and eventually helped lead his team
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  Speaker 2: to back to back World Series titles. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: tough blow for Mookie Bets because you know, he he
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  Speaker 2: just never really got his best foot forward last year.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously played tremendous shortstop last year, which is incredible given
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  Speaker 2: how great he was as a right fielder to kind
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  Speaker 2: of step into that role and be arguably one of
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  Speaker 2: the best defensive shortstops in the game. But offensively after
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  Speaker 2: the you know, trip to Japan and the illness and
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  Speaker 2: losing all the weight, wait, he just never really got
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  Speaker 2: back on track, and he talked about how hard he
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  Speaker 2: worked this offseason and felt like he was going to
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  Speaker 2: be the guy we've expected Mookie Bets to be. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a tough blow for him, but the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: are built to kind of overcome something like this for
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  Speaker 2: a short period of time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're definitely built overcome it. And Miguel Rojas can
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  Speaker 4: play shortstop at the big league level, to play one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two. No, But the fact that they
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  Speaker 4: have Hasung Kim and it's really working out well for
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  Speaker 4: him that they sent him down to the bushes to
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  Speaker 4: Triple A to get at bats, so he's been playing
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  Speaker 4: the entire time. He's continuing to rake, just like he
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  Speaker 4: raked in in spring training, and I thought he should
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  Speaker 4: have made the team. Like it's just another case of
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  Speaker 4: where they have incredible depth to be able to step
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  Speaker 4: in and not play every single day at short, not
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  Speaker 4: play every single day at second, but spell Freeland a
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  Speaker 4: couple of times, spell Miggi Rowe a couple times, and
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  Speaker 4: by the time Mookie comes back, the team will feel
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  Speaker 4: like they probably never missed a beat. And then they
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  Speaker 4: get a possible future Hall of Famer and Mookie bets back.
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  Speaker 4: And it's something that I saw a bunch of people
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  Speaker 4: once he went on theo il. You know, oh, he
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't have been doing all that stuff that he was
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  Speaker 4: doing with since I forget what his last name is,
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  Speaker 4: but he the trainer, Yamamoto's trainer, Like, that's not what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Like, all you're.
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  Speaker 4: Doing is your unless you're doing something that's gonna hurt
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  Speaker 4: your body. All those exercises are helping you. So maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's not as bad as it was originally gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: But it wasn't the throwing the javelin or having sense
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  Speaker 4: on his shoulders or anything like that. It was just
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  Speaker 4: something that happens. And this is what happens when you
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  Speaker 4: have an older team, You get injuries like this. But
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers are built for it, and it's totally fine.
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  Speaker 1: Also, bleaks are from swings, right, guys, Generally not all, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, oh, for the most Ultimately, ultimately, obliques are from
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  Speaker 4: something else. I mean, if you talk to any kind
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  Speaker 4: of athletic trainer, it's some other deficiency. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: that he was injured somewhere else, but you know, athletic
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  Speaker 4: trainers and physical therapists will be like, well, you know
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  Speaker 4: your hips are not rotating at this there's an imbalance somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: Your oblique won't go just in general, It's not like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I landed on my shoulder and my shoulder popped out
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  Speaker 4: of place. It's not like that. It's not just your
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  Speaker 4: oblique doesn't go out from just a swing. It goes
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  Speaker 4: out because maybe you're not rotating enough, maybe you're you know,
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  Speaker 4: something's not warmed up enough. It's you know, there's always
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  Speaker 4: different things that correlate to in oblique.
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  Speaker 1: to go through adversity just like any other ball club.
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  Speaker 1: We can get into rookie Sazaki in a minute too,
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  Speaker 1: as he looked terrible his fastball. Comman's a mess. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look like he has a three pitch repertoire right now,
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  Speaker 1: so he's looking more like a reliever unless he fixes things.
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  Speaker 1: Point is, it's not the perfect team. I know it
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they need to either. I think this
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  Speaker 2: you do a year in and year out. And I
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  Speaker 2: was fortunate to play with the Dodgers for a short
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  Speaker 2: amount of time and just listening to their conversations. At
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  Speaker 2: the first round. Absolutely, but not at the risk of
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  Speaker 2: their guys. There's a reason we haven't seen back to
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  Speaker 2: back World Series champions in a long time. It's extremely
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  Speaker 2: difficult to even just make the postseason year in and
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  Speaker 2: year out. It's almost impossible to get to the World
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  Speaker 2: Series back to back years and then ultimately win it
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  Speaker 2: like the Dodgers did, had been done in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, this team kind of looks like the perfect team,
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  Speaker 2: this super team on paper. But much like when I
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  Speaker 2: was in Atlanta and they were winning division after division,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at some point, I don't want to say
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  Speaker 2: you get accustomed to it or used to it, but
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  Speaker 2: I think your priorities changed. They're no longer concerned about
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  Speaker 2: hanging NLS championships up in Dodger stadium. They're trying to
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  Speaker 2: hate hang World Series banners, and if it takes them
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a bumpy road to get there,
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  Speaker 2: because ultimately they do feel like they're one of the
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  Speaker 2: best five or sixteens in the National League. Regardless of
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  Speaker 2: what they go through, they just want to get into
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  Speaker 2: the postseason. And then once postseason comes around, then they
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  Speaker 2: hit that gas pedal and they.
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  Speaker 1: Go yep, and they do get to try some guys out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the issues crats that you'll have
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  Speaker 1: with a team like this is playing time. So now
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  Speaker 1: Alex Friedland gets his chance to play somewhat regularly at
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  Speaker 1: second base until guys like Tommy Edmund eventually come back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Kikyo Hernandez is eventually going to come back.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Mooki will come back maybe in a month
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  Speaker 1: or so. And then on the other side, Kim gets
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  Speaker 1: a chance. How many teams would have cut Kim in
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  Speaker 1: spring training and sent him back to Triple A in baseball?
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  Speaker 1: How many teams do you think, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Not not paying them, not paying them twelve million over
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  Speaker 4: three years, No chance like you can have, you can
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  Speaker 4: have a position that you're like, Okay, this guy's leaving
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  Speaker 4: here in the next few years, we'll bring him in.
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna make three million in Triple A like no
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  Speaker 4: nobody would have, especially with the spring training. Everybody's coming
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  Speaker 4: out of spring. Well, I didn't have this guy or
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  Speaker 4: that guy didn't have a good spring, So it's fine
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  Speaker 4: that they send him to Triple A.
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  Speaker 3: I sunk Kim.
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  Speaker 4: I think he hit four hundred and four to nine
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  Speaker 4: or something in spring training, like he was ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: If you're worried about that kind of thing, but very few,
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  Speaker 4: very few have that. Very few have that luxury. And
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  Speaker 4: the reality is how much they're paying him.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that much.
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  Speaker 4: People will be like, oh, you see they had all
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  Speaker 4: this extra money. Now look who's playing shortstop and second
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  Speaker 4: base for him, Mickey Rowe. He was plenty available for
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  Speaker 4: quite a few years to be able to go out
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  Speaker 4: and be had by plenty of teams. I sunk Kim
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  Speaker 4: is not making that much money. And Alice Freeland, I
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  Speaker 4: think is still on the minimum. I don't even think
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  Speaker 4: he has a year of service. If he does have
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  Speaker 4: a year, it's not that much more than.
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  Speaker 1: A year, right, So yeah, some of these guys are
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  Speaker 1: more bargain Bin shopping, but it gives you the depth
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  Speaker 1: that's the whole difference maker during the regular season, KP.
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  Speaker 1: There are plenty of talented players in the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 1: Often they're not ready yet taken tribute here. Let's use
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  Speaker 1: this example. The Angels are known to call players up
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  Speaker 1: very quickly, right. The Dodgers often put young players in
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  Speaker 1: a position where it's really tough to find playing time.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason for that because when you lose Mookie Betts,
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  Speaker 1: can you replace a player with another player who should
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  Speaker 1: be on a major league roster already. And that's where
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  Speaker 1: Kim comes up and they're able to have the Rojas
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  Speaker 1: freelance situation going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you're trying to win championships, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you have to make some tough decisions and pay
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  Speaker 2: some guys like Kim to be in the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 2: But ultimately they know what's going to take more than
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  Speaker 2: twenty six guys in order to get to where they
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  Speaker 2: want to go. It might not be some of those
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  Speaker 2: guys that maybe are deserving to be on the team
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  Speaker 2: at the very beginning of the season, but it's going
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  Speaker 2: to take an army of guys and what the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: do is they go out and they acquire guys, and
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  Speaker 2: they make it very difficult in order for their young
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  Speaker 2: guys to get a chance in the big leagues because
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  Speaker 2: typically they go out and acquire the best players at
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  Speaker 2: all the positions, and every once in a while you
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  Speaker 2: run into a situation where you got a guy on
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  Speaker 2: the injured list and Tommy Edmond and it allows a
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  Speaker 2: young guy an opportunity to go out there, establish himself,
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  Speaker 2: get his feet wet, and more than likely that guy
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  Speaker 2: just come becomes trade bait for you know, down the
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  Speaker 2: deadline where they feel like they need to go out
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  Speaker 2: and you know, maybe add a bullpen arm or a
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  Speaker 2: starting pitcher. Just you think about some of the guys
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  Speaker 2: that have in Triple A right now. They have guys
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  Speaker 2: that consistently are up there and winning PCL MVPs every
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  Speaker 2: season year, every year, and they can't sniff the opening
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  Speaker 2: day roster. Maybe they get an opportunity at some point
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  Speaker 2: due to an injury, but they have so many talented
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  Speaker 2: players in their organization. And then you think about teams
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  Speaker 2: like the Angels that rush their guys to the big leagues,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, if you're a young guy getting drafted
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  Speaker 2: by the Angels. It's got to make you smile, ear
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  Speaker 2: to ear that. You know you're gonna get an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to come in and have a chance to move through
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  Speaker 2: the system fairly quickly. But you see how these two
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  Speaker 2: organizations are are run. You know, one team is you know,
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  Speaker 2: considered a lat laughing stock of the league, and one
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  Speaker 2: team is going for three World Series in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, and on the topic of playing time, krats, curious
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  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on rookie Sasaki. The numbers run
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  Speaker 1: prevention wise were okay from the first outing. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he still looked shaky if he actually watched. He was
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  Speaker 1: terrible in spring Who cares. You can throw spring starts out.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine as long as the player produces and looks
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  Speaker 1: different in the regular season. It looked like more of
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  Speaker 1: the version of rookie Sazaki from spring training over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, they're gonna give him a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 4: of leash here. They're gonna give him a lot of opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: You don't, you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see stat line five hits, three walks, five k's,
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  Speaker 4: and five innings. So that's encouraging, but you don't get
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  Speaker 4: ninety pitches. When you have three walks, five hits, and
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  Speaker 4: you give up six runs. Uh, this is a Nats
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  Speaker 4: team that is going to struggle for the most part
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  Speaker 4: besides cj Abrams Lyle and James Wood and the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he wasn't able to command it enough to stay
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  Speaker 4: away from to stay away from damage, but also to
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  Speaker 4: be able to throw the ball on the zone enough.
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  Speaker 4: It's confusing to me because he was not a finished product,
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  Speaker 4: and I was confused that they didn't have him just
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  Speaker 4: continue to work on the things that he needed to
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  Speaker 4: work on that they talked about, like the Dodgers talked
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  Speaker 4: about the fact that that third pitch developing. That third
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  Speaker 4: pitch to me, I don't even necessarily care what the
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: numbers are on that third pitch. I need him to
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: throw it enough to be able to get used to
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: it to then make his other two pitches, which I
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: think are above average, much more successful.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I was just going to talk this week about how
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I felt like this was a light year from spring
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: training to the start of the season for injuries to
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: big names. I felt like it was a light year
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: pitching injuries, Tommy Johns, the whole thing, and then all
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, this weekend just hit us like a
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: ton of bricks. So we're going to talk about Sodo
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: going down Trout, We're gonna talk about Hunter Brown, among
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: others that will try and get to Alejandro Kirk. Let's
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: start with Juan Soto. That's the most recent from a
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: news perspective, KP. I don't know if you've ever dealt
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: with a calf before, but he's out with the calf.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Mets fortunately actually blow up on offense for the couple
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: games while he's out, but they're going to miss him
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: now for two to three weeks.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: He had said he.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Felt better the first night after, you know, he comes back,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: shows up to the ballpark, people think he's going to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: be in the lineup, but the calf can kind of
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: sneak back and bite you again. You usually see guys
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: miss time, and doctors and trainers, I just know this
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: from covering the sport for a while usually emphasize guys
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to take a little extra time because it can really
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: linger if you don't.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fortunately I never had a calf injury in my career,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: but I've definitely heard stories of guys who may feel
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a little something in their calf and they show up
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the next day and they feel great. I mean, that's
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the beauty of MRI machines. Maybe it shows something, maybe
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it didn't show something. But to your point, calves can
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: be very tricky. It's not worth risking an actual tear
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: in the calf. It could be a little strain, it
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: could be a little inflammation. But I think the Mets
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: made the right decision not having one Sodo try to
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: push through this early in the year. It can be
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: a tricky thing. And hopefully it's only two or three
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: weeks because you know, obviously the Mets lineup, but baseball
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: is in a better place when one Soda is playing.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe he won't go forty to forty this year, Maybe
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: that's calf injury. We'll slow him down a little bit
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: on the basis. But for everybody who online was like,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: we'll see they score more without him in the lineup,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Like he must just be a terrible teammate or something
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: like that. No, this dude, the Mets, the Pirates, the Yankees, whoever,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: whatever line he's in, he makes won Soto makes them better.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: So yes, they want him to rush back, but no,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: they shouldn't rush him back because you don't want this
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to linger, especially the fact that he's out in left field.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: He's on it every day.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: It's not like he's dhing so and in three weeks
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: when it comes back, we'll have more consistent weather. I
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: think some of these injuries obviously hit by pitches, eh, whatever,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: but some of this stuff is the inconsistent weather. Hey,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: we played yesterday it was eighty Now we're playing tonight
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: and it's fifty four degrees.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: It's a little cooler.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, this is a tough time of year, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: it's good that they're going to take it, take it decide.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: They're just gonna be a little bit more cautious with it. Yeah.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the best hitters in the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: sport and now they're going to miss him for most
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of the month, most of April, if not all of April.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: That's not good. Super consistent. Yeah, it's okay, but it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: not good. I mean, it's not good for a team
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that's going to be fighting for a spot in a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: very good National league in general. Right we're looking at
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: some teams that are off to some hotter starts, Like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I'll throw one out there, since we want to have
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: time otherwise, and the Reds look really good after a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: strong weekend. Their pitching staff looks ridiculous. That's the team
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that jumped over them last year late in the season.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be a thread again in
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a wild card spot. So just things to keep an
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: eye on. You gotta be careful. You can't lose one
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: for the long term. But they'll be without him for
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: two to three weeks. It sounds like Mike Trout's going
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to be okay, but he got hit by a pitch
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and krats. If this happened, I would say even ten
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to fifteen years ago and beyond, you know, before that,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: there would have been a good old fashioned brawl in
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the Mariners Angels series. They pitched inside a lot to him,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and it takes a lot for Trout to say anything
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: mean about someone. He's a super nice guy. And even
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: he was like, hey, here's the quote. We know they're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: trying to get me out fastballs up and in. So
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it's just frustrating. You know, if you can't control it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: up there, you shouldn't do it. So it is what
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Who's the guy, who's the guy that you're not gonna
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: let beat you in the Angels lineup Mike Trout. So
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: when you go up there and you say, Mike Trout
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: has been since twenty fourteen when we faced him in
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, you gotta elevate him. You gotta you gotta
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: just across elevation across because one, he's not gonna swing
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: at it if it's off the plate. Two when he
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: swings at it, that's where he does less damage. He
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: fouls a lot of those balls off to me. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: think as a player he's learned over his career to
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: be able to let those go, but then also to
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: do more contact, do more damage up in a way.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: So they've started to come in and if he's the
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: guy that you're not gonna let beat you, especially when
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: you're playing close games like they were this series. Every
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: game was one run at you know, deep into the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: game you're gonna miss You're gonna miss in. Sorry like that,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: that's part of it. If the Angels don't like it,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: they should have been retaliating after Wu did what he
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: did to me. You have to go to the Mariners'
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: best hitter and you have to do the exact same thing.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you go head hunting that's not what
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. You got to move their guy because they
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: moved your guy or else They're just going to continue
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what they did the rest of
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the series.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Well, they did go after Julio, didn't they, Or I mean,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: at least it appeared that way on what was it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: on Friday?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: No, I could be off there in the WU game.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: No, Well, the WU game was yesterday, right Sunday. WU
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: hit him right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Now, WU came. WU came.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah early early in the series though, he came up
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and in that one was scary, and then he hit
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: him up and in I think the next pitch. So
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I I thought the WU game was the sat the
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Friday game, and then yes, sorry, when they went after Julio,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't think. I didn't think. I don't know. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: didn't think that was necessare like the marriers are good pictures.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: The marriers are good pictures. They're making a concerted effort
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: to go in on Trout, and you have to be
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: up no matter why, you never go down. Trout just
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: drops a head to it and does damage down there.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Whether he's going to be fifty years old or when
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: he was a rookie. That's where he's always done damage
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: and will always do damage, and you just you can't
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: allow that to happen and you've got to be able
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: to retaliate. Sounds bad, but it's more like, hey, you're
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: protecting your guys.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and X rays we're negative on the hand, So
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that's good. We'll find out if there's more to the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: story in terms of missing a little bit of time.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Next up, KP, we need your insight here. As the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: man on the Blue Jays show and covering this team
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: all year, Alejandro Kirk goes down hand for a thumb
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: fracture that is left thumb for him, not throwing hand,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: but still they're going to miss him for what it
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: sounds like four to six weeks.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I mean as crassy, I mean, it's probably worse that
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it happened to his catching hand than his throwing hand.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a you know, a body part
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: more valuable to a catcher than his his catching thumb.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: The way catchers are taught to work underneath the ball.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And for someone who's had multiple thumb surgeries and thumb
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: injuries in his career, it sucks. It takes a long
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: time to get that confidence and that strength back. And
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: granted I'm only using an outfield glove to be able
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to work underneath the ball, it's going to be. It's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be some time. And I think the bigger concern,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: more than the fracture, is they said there was a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: dislocation when it happened, and more than likely for my experience,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: when there's a dislocation, something shifts in there, and that's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: usually a ligament, right, And I'm just concerned. I think
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: today Monday, he was supposed to be going to see
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: a specialist actually in your neck of the woods, Crassy.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe you should, you know, drop by and get some
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: inside info, like wait outside the hospital and get you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the early report on what's going on with this thumb.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: He's up there in Lehigh Valley seeing a hand specialist
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: right now. But I don't think there's anyone more valuable,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: maybe except for Vladimir Guerrero to this team's success. What
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: he does behind the plate with the pitching staff. He's
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: also the guy, I believe when push comes to shove,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: he is going to be the guy who ends up
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: hitting behind Vladdie because he offers the most consistent approach
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and at bats throughout the season. It's a tough it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a tough loss for the Blue Jays.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Spot on, I'm not going to even talk about what
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: he means the team. I'm going to talk about what
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: he means to the pitching staff because the lineup, yes,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: we know what he does, but that pitching staff, he like,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: there's so much value.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: That he adds.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Tyler Hyneman had an incredible year. He's going to have
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: to really step up and be a huge part for
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: this time that Alijndro's out. But my issue is exactly
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: what kp said, not the fracture. So many times we
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: have fractures, brakes, they have surgery. The bone heels stronger
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: than it was before. Were good. When your thumb dislocates
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: and you have to catch. I wore a thumb guard
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: my entire career. I don't know if Kirk wears a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: thumb guard. I'm sure he will, But those thumb guards
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: essentially essentially it goes right into the thumb of your mit.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Here's the here's the thumb side of your mitt. So
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: when you put it in there, you're essentially extending the
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: entire thumb portion of your glove and a lot of
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the A lot of the pain comes from this area.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: When a sinker comes in here, crunch get you when
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: you know you're constantly getting hit, hit, hit, hit, that
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: thumb guard alleviates that. Well, if he doesn't come back
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: one even if it's like he's ninety five percent and
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: he feels it, one game of catching, Let's say one
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pitches are thrown, he might catch one
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: hundred and ten of them. It's like it's like pushing
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: on that spot. It's pushing on that thumb. That will
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that will bring his receiving numbers down, That will bring
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: his ability to then maybe grip the back quite as
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: quite the same.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Lot of things. Hand injuries and feet injuries are a
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: bigger deal in baseball than a lot of people think.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: And your thumb for catching is so important, and so
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: he needs to be one hundred percent healthy in that
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: dislocation part I think is going to possibly keep him
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: out a lot longer than just a fracture will Okay.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Next up a shoulder issue for Hunter Brown. Not great Kratz.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: This was a top three guy for Cy Young last year.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Felt something in the shoulder during the throwing program on Friday,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and so he goes to the injured list. For now,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: for Houston, that's their guy. I mean, he's a top three,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: top five starter in the American League, one.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Hundred and two pitches in his first start, Like, are
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: they gonna is that what? We're gonna?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Blame this on the fact that he threw more than
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: any other starting pitcher in the game. This guy is
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: supposed to be the horse he has. He's like to me,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I hope, I hope that narrative gets completely debunked. But
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: he's on the il. He's on the il with the shoulder,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: and as a horse, you have to be you have
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: to be healthy. Can he pitch through things, Yes, and
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he tried on Tuesday. I think that's when
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: he pitched. But he wants to just just hearing him
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: talk and hearing people in the organization talk about him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: He wants to take it to that next level. He
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: wants to be a thirty two to thirty three start guy,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: approach two hundred innings. And this is tough to see
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: this early in the season, but hopefully it's precautionary and
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: he's able to come back and be the guy that
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the team needs him to be in that horse that's
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: going to give them seven innings every time out.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: One more team to hit. The Cubs losing two starters
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in the past few days, Cad Horton, who was hurt
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to end last year, and early talk is optimistic from
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Sada Sharma, who covers the cups for the Athletic and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: for Northside Territory. He said it started in his wrist
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and got tight in his forearm, so they wanted to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: be proactive. They put him on the al and then
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: during this show we learned that it's a left bicep
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: stream for Matthew Boyd that puts him on the injured
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: list that's retroactive to a few days ago April. Third.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Javier Side is called up to be a nice s
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: depth option, but KP already two big starters going down
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: for the Cubs, and their starting rotation aisle starts to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: look really good in a way that you don't want
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it to look.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Steel has been on the aisle for a while now.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: They're missing a lot of talent.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's unfortunate. I mean, I think some blame
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is going to be thrown at the WBC. Of course, right,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: because we have to blame something, right, But yeah, with
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Wharton too, I mean the crats he touched on it too.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It's just some of these injuries, honestly, just kind of
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: add up, and some people are going to point fingers
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: in a lot of different directions, you know, the preparation
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: of spring training, maybe the lack of you know, build
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: up during spring training. But a lot of these pictures
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: are and players are getting hurt in cold weather cities.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: It's difficult when it's warm one day, cold one day,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and the body has a hard time adapting, and it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: it's tough early on in the year.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: How quickly things can change crafts. We were on Friday
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: talking about the Mets losing to the Giants, and Lindor
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: had a couple issues mistakes, and then all of a sudden,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the Mets win three in a row to take down
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the Giants the rest of the way. Over the weekend
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: we had by Tello's first ejection, Matt Chapman has I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: think four errors, was it now on the weekend, not
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: on the weekend, sorry, on the season and then on
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the season, and then had the stolen base attempt and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the ninth that that really hurt. And then here's the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Giants offense for you. And this is where I'm going
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to defend Tony by Tello haters, because there's random ones
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: all over the internet right now. They're three and seven,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they're four games under, and their offense is ranked really
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: poorly in a number of spots that don't necessarily have
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to do with ballpark like barrels where their last barrel
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: percentage last, and then the expected stats too.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Kee.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that was that was kind of
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: that was kind of Tony's reasoning for getting thrown out,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: because if he's arguing that he didn't run inside the
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: first baseline on that play, I mean, he's incorrect, Like
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: he definitely was should have been called out because he
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: was running inside the baseline. But that's a BIS that's abysmal.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: It's a bysmal offense. And I guess the you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: ten games sample size absolutely, I mean, up until the
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Nats series the Dodgers, the Dodgers top of their order
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: was not hitting very well, so Phillies top of their
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: order was not hitting very well. The Mariners, who added
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: a big piece in the offseason, the top of their
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: order wasn't hitting very well. So teams go through this.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: The issue is what has always plagued the Giants is offense,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: and they kind of doubled down this offseason, getting Luis
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: a rise and saying, you know what, it's tough to
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: find power here. We already did that in May last
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: year when we got devors. So we'll get a rise,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: and Arise has had a great start to the season.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: It's just a it's it's emblematic to the fact that
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: this team can't make mistakes like Matt Chapman making four airs.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: He'll go a whole season without making four airs, let
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: alone ten games. They can't have a guy get thrown
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: out second base. But the reason you get thrown out
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: stealing second base and you're down by three is because
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: you're like, we aren't scoring any runs. We got to
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: push the envelope. So it's it's here and there for
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: the Giants right now, and they're not playing very well
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: and it's a tough division.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Hots Corner Time. More from the weekend, KP. Did you
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: see this play from Manny Machado who has soccer skills
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in Fenway?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Manny's reputation outside of his
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: teammates is why this is a big deal. Is it
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: not allowed to intentionally kick the ball. No, but there's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: a way players have done it. It's actually a very
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: smart play, and if you ask his teammate who hit
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: that ball, he's very thankful because for people at home
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: who may not know when a runner interferes with the
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: ball and play, the guy who is hitting is awarded
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a base hit. So this is the ultimate team move,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: not only for his teammate who gets a hit there,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: but he potentially saves a double play right there too.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: But I think it's a big deal because Manny Machado
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: has his reputation outside of his clubhouse, you know, as
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: a dirty player and has done somethings potentially that has
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: allowed that reputation to be something that people talk about.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But everything I've heard from people that have played with
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Manny say he's the greatest teammate. He's a hard worker
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and they love him to death. So it's a non
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: issue to me. I think it's a great teammate play
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: by many Machado.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I'll clean it up a little bit here, KP. It
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: was actually a pickoff. He was on first and they
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: they tried to pick him off at first, so as
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: he's getting back to the bag, he went to kick it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: So do you still think it's a clean play because
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: it was really it clearly wasn't going to get picked off.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: But do you think it was a clean play because
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: he tried to kick it and then or I tried
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: he did kick it and it went it went away
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: and he got the second.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I sawry. I saw like the clip of it,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: but I thought it was coming off the bat.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I don't have a chance to watch every single game.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I do apologize for that, of course. Do I feel
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: differently about it. I think if it was on the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: base and maybe he knew he was going to be
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I think Manny's just a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: guy who goes out there and has fun, and I
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: don't think something like this is like premeditated. I think
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you just have to have like a ton of baseball
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: instincts and yeah, maybe it's frowned upon, but I don't know.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's Manny being Manny. I guess there's certain
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: players I feel like outside the clubhouse, like I said,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: have a reputation of maybe doing things that people don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: like people inside the clubhouse probably go man. Manny's IQ
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: is so high that he was able to do this
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: on a fly.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Is it a big deal? Probably not.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's dirty. I think Manny has
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: done some things that I would deem immature and sometimes dirty.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: This isn't one of them. I mean, you can get
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: pissed about it, but one. He put himself in the
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: way to get hit. Now, this should have been called
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: by the umpire. Yes it wasn't, but you really don't.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Because it's not a batted ball, because he's not technically
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: interfering with what's considered a live ball. He could stand
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: there and let it hit him anywhere.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: It just was a fact that he I.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Don't know if I've ever seen anybody kick a pickoff.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I've seen guys try to like slap the ball out
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: of people's gloves. That's dirty. I've seen guys go back
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: into the base where the fielder is on like a pickoff,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Like going back in they know they're gonna be they're
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: gonna get there early, so they make contact with the fielder.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Because it's not the same as if it's a batted ball,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: you have to let the fielder field the ball. It's
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: a very gray area what he did. Had it been
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: slowed down, had it been something that could have been replayed, yeah,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: the umpire would have been like, no, this is not
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: you can't intentionally try to do it but live.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: That's so hard to see from for an umpire.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Hard to see for an ump and hard to kick
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: for a player. I mean that's good.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: It's a really good player here, it is.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It is impressive.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to sacrifice your own body to do
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It's not like a backpick from a catcher doesn't hurt, right,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: So one, you've got to have like the you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the IQ to be like oh man like and the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: instincts to be able to do it. And secondly, yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit selfless because you know it hurts.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You know, as you know, krats best arms on the
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: field are behind the plate.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: No outfielders, you guys are You guys are the primadonnas.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You guys just don't get to warm your arms up.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: We our arms stay hot so we don't throw it
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: as hard as you outfielders.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to get to the outfielders. So one
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: more topic here in hot Corner Roman Anthony. This is
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: from the weekend where Alex Corus said that he needs
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to work on his throwing, in his footwork in the outfield.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: So you're seeing more Jaron Duran playing out there right
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: now and less of Anthony. This is always that dynamic
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: KP of how do you get better without playing time?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I know you can do things before and after games,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: but what do you do if you're Boston and you
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: happen to be off to a two and seven start.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Vandler already booing and yelling, sell the team and freaking out.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the bigger issue is I don't
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: think this needed to necessary be public, right Jared de
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Gurant's an accomplished outfielder who's a pretty good player too. Like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: it's very easy to sugarcoat it and say, hey, we
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: just want to get Durant some reps in left field.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Roman's been swinging the bat, well, you know he's gonna
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: have to dh a little bit. You know, this is
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: kind of when we constructed our roster. This is something
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: we knew was a possibility. We had a bunch of
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: outfielders that all needed to play. I didn't think it
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: was necessary for them to call out Roman Anthony, especially
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: after you signed up to this long term extension. He's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the potential face of your franchise. To kind of call
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: him out nine games in the season, to me, this
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: is an issue that probably should have been either discussed
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: or worked on in spring training, not nine games into
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't get this.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I like a lot of the stuff that Alice Korra does,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: but I don't get why he had to had to
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: say this. Like Jared duran in twenty let's say that
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: was twenty four when he had his All Star season.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: He I mean, he really made himself into almost a
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: gold Glove outfielder. He was playing a lot of center field.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Obviously they got a gold Glove outfielder, and say Don Rafaela,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: who came up last year and bumped him to left,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: they have gold in right field and will he or
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: bray you. So he could have just said Jared Durant
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: is a better left fielder than Roman Anthony right now.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Or he could have said Roman Anthony is going to
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: be in the lineup. We got to figure out how
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: to get the best lineup out there, not like well,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: he has to work on his footwork and his throats too,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Like KP. You know, left field in Boston is not
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the easiest place to play, and if you haven't played
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: there a lot, have somebody who has played there a
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: lot play that position and then you know, maybe work
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: into the outfield on the road where you're you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: you're not playing balls off a ladder, off a monster
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: sign off of you know, three hundred and five feet
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: from home plate type of plays.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like they could have just used the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: WBC as an excuse, like, hey, he didn't get a
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: ton of reps here in Jet Blue Park and Fort Myers,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: which kind of emulates Fenway Park, right the fact that
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: he missed a lot of time, Like you said, all
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the right things like hey, Jared Rant's been here, he's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: done it. He knows how to play the wall a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: little bit. You know, we want to put our best
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: defensive line about there. Right now, we feel like Durant's
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: our guy in left field. Doesn't mean Roman's not going
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: to play, but to call him out and whatever happened
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to having I mean, I know every bit of information's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: out there, but whatever happened to have a little bit
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: of like strategic advantage, Like now every time Roman gets
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the ball in left field, you don't think all these
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: other teams are going to challenge his footwork and his
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: throwing arm now like it just it's interesting because Alex
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Kore is one of the best out there for him
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: to do that, I don't really I can't really make
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: sense of it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, a reminder to everyone as we're talking about all
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the other shows across the FT Network that make us
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: better as we have so many new family members joining
• 41:31
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• 41:36
  Speaker 1: released last week. Hilarious moment they called him during the show.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: This time they actually got him formally on the show
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: without blitzing him. So I encourage you to check Allan out.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: It's part of the FT Network. Also, somebody who frequently
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: appears on this show when on the paternity list. So
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Pete Fairbanks getting ready. I don't know, did it already happen?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, his wife was induced. I think it
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: was yesterday morning or this morning, whatever it was. Congratulations
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to Pete. I'm sure we'll get more news. But there's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Isaaca Zood from our Marlin Showfish on first. The interesting
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: thing for me here too, Kratz, was how they had
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: him start so that he could get to the fam sooner.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we're going to get our inning out
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of you, so if you want to leave, you got
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: to start the game.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Kind of genius. I don't hate it. Like I go.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I go through this a little bit of my high
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: school team. Like I got some soccer players that have
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: been going to soccer tryouts. So I'm like, hey, I'm
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: going to hit you higher in the order today because
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: you can only get two at bats, but I'll get
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: two at bats.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Out of you and then you gotta leave. So like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I kind of like it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: The Marlins are running a nice little uh travel high
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: school baseball team there.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: They got the hey you're gonna throw.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: You're gonna get a day off tomorrow, but we expect
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: you back Tuesday because your wife giving birth here in Miami.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, right, that's your late past KP first inning for you.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: And also there was a four hour rain delay. It
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: was a long day for the Islins and the Yankees
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Then you get your day off, you get
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: your new kid, and then you come back and you
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: can go back to the later innings.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I actually really liked it too. I mean, you know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: they're playing well right now, and they're like, okay, hey,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: let's make a compromise, like, hey, I want you to
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: be there for the birth of your child. You know
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that's a non negotiable, but how do we kind of
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: how do we both benefit each other. Oh, great idea.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just be our opener and then you
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: can hit the showers, catch your flight, make it home.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: But we're going to need you back to close the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: game two days from now. But enjoy it, enjoy the
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: birth of your new.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Child, and maybe it helps to have a relatable front office.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Exact Peter Bendix, I think is expecting a kid very
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: very soon, his first child. So you have a little
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: bit of an understanding there and some creativity from a
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: pretty creative front office.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: I'm too, I'm not any any big league baseball player,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: minor league baseball player. You do not ask to take
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: off for your kid's birth. You tell them I'm taking
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: off when.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: My kid is born.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: This isn't an ask, like you don't miss your kids burn.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of time, but we do
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: have time to say hi to Bobby Junior, who's named
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: after Bobby Witt Junior. He's a tortoise that Pat Murphy
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: brought on the field and took out of his pocket
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: during an interview with Trisha Whitaker. I mean, crats, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: don't even know what else I can say about your boy, Murph.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's just a no I mean, talk about
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: the gimmicks. If this wasn't if this was the Mets,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: people be like people me, I'll be like, oh, it's
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: too much. But it's just it's just the games.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: It's a stick.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: When you're winning, everybody wants a turtle. When you're losing,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: it's like, uh, let's just like who doesn't like a turtle?
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: As long as it's not snapping turtle, we're good to go.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're if you're pulling pancakes of your pocket
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and you're winning, it's okay. But once again, if it's
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: a team that's unsuccessful, people run thin to that type
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: of humor. Pat Murphy and the Milwaukee Brewers kind of
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: seem to get away with whatever they want because they
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: just keep winning.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: All I do is win, win, win, no matter what.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: It is. Fun on the way out here.
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  Speaker 3: What do you got?
• 45:22
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• 45:25
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