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Teen girl lured by online sex predator, kept in cage, starved, sex assaulted (Part 1) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gut wretching plea tonight
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Speaker 1: from a father desperate to find his daughter. Sixteen year
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Speaker 1: old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.
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Speaker 1: She has aspergers, and her family says she left with
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Speaker 1: a man she met online, who they believe is twice
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Speaker 1: her age. She has not been heard from since. I
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Speaker 1: don't think she realizes how much she's loved, but there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of people out here that really want
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Speaker 1: her home. A teen girl goes missing and we learn
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Speaker 1: the worst. We learned that she has been held in
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Speaker 1: captivity in a cage for over a year. I want justice,
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Speaker 1: I mean see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Syriah Blake Morgan at wb TV.
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Speaker 1: Verywhere you look in this Valentine neighborhood, you'll see the
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Speaker 1: face of a girl who lives here until her parents
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Speaker 1: say she chose to lead. You can't understand how it
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Speaker 1: feels until you're in it. Philey's father, Anthony Byrne, says
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Speaker 1: his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.
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Speaker 1: My wife opened the door and she was not there.
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Speaker 1: She left a diary behind that, Anthony says, detailed a
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Speaker 1: plan to run away with a thirty two year old
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Speaker 1: she met online. He gradually wormed his way into her
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Speaker 1: good graces. He coerced her to start listening to him
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Speaker 1: and not following our direction. How did it happen? How
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Speaker 1: did a teen girl end up being held in captivity
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Speaker 1: for over a year, being denied food, being subjected to
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Speaker 1: water torture. Why? And in a stunning, stunning blow to
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Speaker 1: Lady Justice, the guy who makes off with her, Michael Wislovski,
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Speaker 1: is walking free. Let's start at the beginning. But I
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Speaker 1: want to introduce to you Helly, the victim in this case,
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Speaker 1: the teen girl mother, Shawna Burns and her father, Anthony Burns,
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Speaker 1: both joining us today, and I think I've got a
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Speaker 1: lot to learn from them. With me. Troy Slayton, renowned
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Speaker 1: California defense lawyer. Stephen Lampley detective. You can find him
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Speaker 1: at Stephen Lampley dot com, ellen Clorian Crime online dot com,
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter. Let's start with Halley's mother, Shauna Burns. Tell
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Speaker 1: me about the moment you discover, Helly, your little girl
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Speaker 1: is gone. You know, your little girl was just a
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Speaker 1: couple of years older than my twins. And after studying
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Speaker 1: Hally's case yesterday and the investigative five, can I tell
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Speaker 1: you once again I slept in their room last night
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Speaker 1: and just stared at them up all night. I'm so
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Speaker 1: distraught about Haley, Seana. When did you realize Haley was gone?
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Speaker 1: I went in. It was a Monday morning, and I
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Speaker 1: went in to get her up for school. Haley went
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Speaker 1: to a school that was out of our district, so
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Speaker 1: it was about a two hour drive. So it's about
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Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning, so it was dark in
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Speaker 1: the house. No one else was awake, and I went
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Speaker 1: into her room and wait, wait, wait, So it's five
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Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Okay, it has to still be
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Speaker 1: dark outside, miss Burns. So you're saying you walked up
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Speaker 1: to her bed and she wasn't there. What did you do?
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Speaker 1: First of all, where is she normally at five thirty
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Speaker 1: in the morning in her bed? She's sleeping in her bed.
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Speaker 1: Does she sleep with a night light? No, So you
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Speaker 1: can walk in and you can see immediately whether she's
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Speaker 1: in the bed. Yeah, yeah, I immediately knew she was
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Speaker 1: not in her bed. What did you do at that moment?
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Speaker 1: I started searching other places in the house that I
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Speaker 1: thought she might have moved to, like the couch or
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Speaker 1: sometimes she sleeps, and that we have another bed in
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Speaker 1: another room that she sleeps in. So I started searching
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Speaker 1: all of the reasonable places that she could have moved
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Speaker 1: to in the middle of the night to sleep. And
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Speaker 1: after quickly going through those places, I started frantically searching
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Speaker 1: everywhere in the house. I even looked inside of my minivan,
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Speaker 1: thinking that she might have gone to sleep in there.
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Speaker 1: And after about a minute, I just got a visual
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Speaker 1: of you right now outside in the dark. Because when
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Speaker 1: I load up the minivan in the morning, it's always
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Speaker 1: still dark outside. And the first couple of times I
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Speaker 1: would go outside and I think, oh my goodness, it's cold,
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Speaker 1: it's dark, and I'd run to the card load up
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Speaker 1: all the twins stuff, and i'd run back in. But
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Speaker 1: now it's a blessing. I go out and I'll look
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Speaker 1: up at the stars and I think about all my
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Speaker 1: blessings and what has turned turned from a chore into
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Speaker 1: a blessing. And I'm imagining you going, Okay, so she's
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Speaker 1: on the sofa, You go to the sofa. She's not
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Speaker 1: on the sofa. You go to the spare bedroom. She's
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Speaker 1: not in there. You go look in the bathroom. Is
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Speaker 1: she in there? No, she's not. Go look at the
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Speaker 1: bed again. Okay, she's not in the blankets. I was right.
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Speaker 1: Then you're outside looking in the mini van. What was
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Speaker 1: going through your mind? What feelings were pulsing through your body?
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Speaker 1: She has to be here somewhere, She has to be
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Speaker 1: here somewhere. I just have to find her. That was
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Speaker 1: the idea that she had left, or that she wasn't
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Speaker 1: here never even crossed my mind. I knew that she
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Speaker 1: was here and I just had to find her. So
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Speaker 1: I searched the entire house. Pretty big house, so it
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Speaker 1: took me about thirty forty minutes to do that. And
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Speaker 1: then after searching every square into the house and establishing
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Speaker 1: that she wasn't here, that's when I woke my husband
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Speaker 1: up and I came into our bedroom and I said,
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Speaker 1: Tony Hayley's not here. And he immediately jumped out of
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Speaker 1: bed and said, what do you mean is that she's
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Speaker 1: not here? And so we both started separately. We separated,
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Speaker 1: and we just started systematically searching every square inch of
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Speaker 1: this house. Oh my stars, Shauna, I've got chills all
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Speaker 1: over my body right now. In faith, I felt a
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Speaker 1: wave of nausea when you said I just can't look
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Speaker 1: at him because I thought she's got to be here. Well,
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Speaker 1: of course she has to be there. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I've told a story a million times about when my
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Speaker 1: son John David went missing and the babies or us,
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Speaker 1: but ever since that, and because the nature of my business,
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Speaker 1: when I can't find them, when they're not where they're
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Speaker 1: supposed to be, I immediately get distraught. To Anthony Burns,
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Speaker 1: this is Helly's dad. Do you remember that moment that
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Speaker 1: Shauna comes out. I'm sure it's still dark, probably getting
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Speaker 1: now around six six fifteen. What happened in your mind?
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Speaker 1: What's your recollection? I? Um, you know, even sitting here
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Speaker 1: right now, I'm tearing up a little bit, Nancy, because um,
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Speaker 1: as a parent, you never you know, my daughter never
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Speaker 1: tried to run away before, or never been lured away before.
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Speaker 1: It's a better way to put it. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: as soon as my wife, I'm so glad you just
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Speaker 1: said that. That's got to be clear. This child did
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Speaker 1: not run away. She was lured by an online predator.
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Speaker 1: She is a child in the eyes of the law.
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Speaker 1: And when your wife grabbed you by the shoulder out
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Speaker 1: of a deep sleep and said, Healey is gone. What
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Speaker 1: went through your mind? Anthony? I literally I heard the
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Speaker 1: distress in her voice. It was something I had never
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Speaker 1: heard before. I literally jumped out of the bed onto
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Speaker 1: one foot, and I remember I think I twisted my ankles.
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Speaker 1: I jumped out, but I ran out of bed and
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Speaker 1: I went to her bedroom. I couldn't see her in there.
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Speaker 1: I was just kind of waking up, and I went downstairs.
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Speaker 1: As I went downstairs, I looked at our front door,
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Speaker 1: and the front door was unlocked, and it was a
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Speaker 1: little bit left adrift. And at that point I knew,
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Speaker 1: Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any
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Speaker 1: real leads on the man he believes took his daughter.
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Speaker 1: There's no telling who he is. He might not be
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Speaker 1: thirty two, he could be fifty five and running a
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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. A teen girl suffering with
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Speaker 1: Asperger's is lured out of her home. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to Aerial Placincia WCNC Charlotte. The seventeen year old disappeared
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Speaker 1: from her home back on May twenty third, twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 1: Her family told us then she has Asperger syndrome and
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Speaker 1: left home without her medication. Last year, her family told
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Speaker 1: NBC Charlotte they tried to limit their daughter's use of
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Speaker 1: the computer after discovering she had been talking to stream online.
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Speaker 1: According to The Observer, Burne's father said she left a
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Speaker 1: diary behind the detailed a plan to run away with
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Speaker 1: a thirty two year old man she met online. Her
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Speaker 1: family says she did not have a cell phone, but
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Speaker 1: still they believe she was able to communicate with someone
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Speaker 1: and left to meet that person. A teen girl lured
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Speaker 1: out of her home that with the safety of her
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Speaker 1: mother and father where they watch over her taking a
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Speaker 1: two hour trek every morning to a special school to
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Speaker 1: help Haley Burns to help her achieve, to help her
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Speaker 1: succeed to just push her one inch further in life,
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Speaker 1: doing everything they can to help her so she can
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Speaker 1: be happy in life after they're gone. And then one morning,
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Speaker 1: five thirty am, Mom Seana goes in to find Haley
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Speaker 1: is gone. The two ransack the house, the yard, the
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Speaker 1: men even and no heally and with me right now.
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Speaker 1: In addition Detroit Slayton, Stephen Lampley, and Ellen Klauren Helely's parents,
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Speaker 1: Shawna and Anthony Burns. Anthony, you were just telling me
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Speaker 1: that you are searching frantically. You've twisted your ankle jumping
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Speaker 1: out of bed. You're looking for her. Well, you know
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Speaker 1: the next thing is we've got two other children, and
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Speaker 1: you know we don't want to distress them because we
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Speaker 1: know that we've got a very major problem on her hands.
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Speaker 1: I go up to her room, I actually look in
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Speaker 1: her bed, and at that point I realized that the
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Speaker 1: only thing left in her bed are a big pile
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Speaker 1: of stuffed animals where she should have been sleeping. When
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Speaker 1: you see that door unlocked and slightly a jar, what
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Speaker 1: goes through your mind? I knew she was gone. With
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Speaker 1: it with my wife coming in and telling me that
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Speaker 1: she wasn't where she should be. And that was extremely unusual,
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Speaker 1: as was the fact that my front door was open,
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Speaker 1: which you know, I locked the door every night. I
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Speaker 1: knew someone had left through the front door. Either someone
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Speaker 1: had come in the front door or someone had walked
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Speaker 1: out of the front door. I didn't know at that point.
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Speaker 1: You know what, You know what, Anthony. I'm almost through
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Speaker 1: with a book I'm writing called Don't Be a Victim,
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Speaker 1: Fighting Back against America's Crime Wave, and one of the
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Speaker 1: chapters is safe at Home. And I've studied and studied
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Speaker 1: and studied. I've prosecuted. I can't even tell you how many,
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Speaker 1: literally thousands of cases of home burglaries, kidnaps, you name it.
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Speaker 1: That's one of the main things I know. It sounds
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Speaker 1: so simple. Lock your doors and windows. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: got fifty other chips. But when you saw that door
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Speaker 1: unlocked and slightly ajar If I saw that, I would
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Speaker 1: know immediately because before I go to bed every night,
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Speaker 1: even though my husband has already checked it, I rechecked
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Speaker 1: the entire house. I checked the alarm, I checked the windows,
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Speaker 1: I checked the car outside, I check the garage, everything,
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't take long. You just do a walk
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Speaker 1: through by now, I can look at a door at
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Speaker 1: fifteen feet and I can tell if the deadbolt is
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Speaker 1: on by which way it's turned. I mean, so you
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Speaker 1: do that every single night, Yes, every single night. And
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Speaker 1: we have three doors. I lock them all. I make
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Speaker 1: sure every wind is closed, you know, for air conditioning reasons.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we pay for pay for what
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Speaker 1: we don't we consume. So I make sure the house.
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Speaker 1: I have a system every single day. And can I
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Speaker 1: just ask you, out of curiosity, neither here nor there,
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Speaker 1: what's your system? Okay? My system of checking the house
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Speaker 1: is I basically, will I clean up everything right before
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Speaker 1: I go to bed. I make sure all the dishes
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Speaker 1: are done and everything else, like we all do to
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Speaker 1: the kids. When they get up, they walk into a
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Speaker 1: nice clean environment. And then I go through each door systematically,
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Speaker 1: usually our garage, make sure it's closed. Okay. Can I
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Speaker 1: just stop you again, Anthony, I do the same exact thing.
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Speaker 1: I cannot stand to walk get up and walk in.
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Speaker 1: I get about five five thirty every morning, and cms
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Speaker 1: I don't think the children or my husband, definitely not
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Speaker 1: my husband. But if it were a pigsty, they'd walk
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Speaker 1: through and they wouldn't notice the thing I'm guaranteeing you that,
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Speaker 1: but it would push push me over the edge. So
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Speaker 1: every night, the dan the kitchen that everything has to
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Speaker 1: be in place, and Nate, yes, yes, absolutely, So if
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Speaker 1: I see one thing at a place the next morning,
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Speaker 1: I know something went haywire. I mean, I'm not clean
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Speaker 1: freak about it, but but but I like things to
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Speaker 1: be a certain way so that the kids have the
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Speaker 1: same exact experience, you know, and the expectation every day
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Speaker 1: that life starts the same way that they like. Well,
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Speaker 1: they love it that way. I want to interrupt here
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Speaker 1: because jump in Shot are twins. One of our twins
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Speaker 1: has autism and they are very routine driven. They are
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Speaker 1: very routine from him. So he sets everything up at
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Speaker 1: night so that I have an easy morning when I
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Speaker 1: give them up. Our routine is easy to follow because
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Speaker 1: he's set us up for it the night before. So
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Speaker 1: it's not so much that he's really particular, it's just
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Speaker 1: it because of our routine driven child. We have a
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Speaker 1: pretty strict routine and he is not like he checks it.
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Speaker 1: He does it every night. You know what, Shauna, I'm
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Speaker 1: learning something from you. I'm learning something from you because
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Speaker 1: I always say to my husband we have to keep
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Speaker 1: them in a routine, a routine. They got to know
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Speaker 1: that on Monday, this happens. Tuesday, this happens. When they
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Speaker 1: wake up, this happens, they go to bed this time.
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Speaker 1: Blah blah. Although I slide on the bedtime because it's
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Speaker 1: a foundation, a security thing that you know, you understand
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Speaker 1: your life is not chaos. But you guys have Halley
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Speaker 1: with Asperger's. I did not know one of your twins
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Speaker 1: was autistic as well. All of our routine is so important, Shanna,
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Speaker 1: of our one of them has Asperger's and the others
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Speaker 1: has autism and haliols. Yeah, all three of our kids
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Speaker 1: are on the spectrum and routine is And I grew
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Speaker 1: up in foster care, so I grew up in a
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Speaker 1: very chaotic, no stability situation. So I understand the importance
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Speaker 1: of stability for children and knowing how safe and how
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Speaker 1: important it is for them to feel safe in order
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Speaker 1: to be safe. So that's one of the reasons why.
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Speaker 1: And we are so routine driven in all you just
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Speaker 1: and if I could break in, I grew up in
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Speaker 1: a very very conservative, very you know, strong family background
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Speaker 1: that taught me, you know that to have kind of
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Speaker 1: a system and a structure for each day, and that
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Speaker 1: you know, do everything a certain way and things work out.
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Speaker 1: That's what I was always taught. You know, it's just
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Speaker 1: actually bringing me to tears. And it's Troy Slight in
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Speaker 1: California Defense Attorney. Um, you have children? Are you hearing
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Speaker 1: this about routine? And what's so ironic is Shanna and
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Speaker 1: Anthony go to such great links to try to make
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Speaker 1: everything just right to raise their children with these challenges
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Speaker 1: that they have Asperger's autism, and then the worst happens, Troy,
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Speaker 1: I mean, weigh in on how they're trying to raise them. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: my heart breaks for them. I too have two children,
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Speaker 1: and although they're not on the autism spectrum, like they're
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Speaker 1: fine children, I do the same exact thing. We're getting
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Speaker 1: the kitchen ready every night, trying to do a routine
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Speaker 1: and raise them the best that we can. And then
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Speaker 1: to have something as horrific as having your child be gone,
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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I I can't imagine what they've
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Speaker 1: betten through the yellow ribbons on each mailbox on Baldwin
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Speaker 1: Hall Drive starting to fade as a days turned into weeks,
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Speaker 1: weeks turning into months more than a year would buy
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Speaker 1: with no sign of Haley. But this community ever gave
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Speaker 1: up hope. It kind of died down On the law
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Speaker 1: enforcement side, I know they they just kept pushing through.
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Speaker 1: No investigators haven't said how Haley and Wisulovsky met, but
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Speaker 1: her parents said she'd been talking to strangers online and
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Speaker 1: tried to limit her access not long before she would
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Speaker 1: and it just shows that it can happen to anybody,
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Speaker 1: which makes it even scarier. It was the worst feeling
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Speaker 1: right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns the mom and dad
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Speaker 1: of Haley. Troy Slayton, California defense lawyer Stephen Lampley detective
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Speaker 1: at Stephen Lampley dot com and Crime online dot Com.
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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Ellen Klaurin. Take a listen to our friend
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Speaker 1: Sarah Blake Morgan at WBTV. A gut wrenching plea tonight
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Speaker 1: from a father desperate to find his daughter. A sixteen
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Speaker 1: year old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.
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Speaker 1: She has aspergers, and her family says she left with
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Speaker 1: a man she met online who they believe is twice
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Speaker 1: her age. She has not been heard from since. Our
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Speaker 1: Sarah Blake Morgan has more on this family's fear and
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Speaker 1: warning to others. I don't think she realizes how much
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Speaker 1: she's loved, but there are a lot of people out
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Speaker 1: here that really want her home. You can't understand how
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Speaker 1: it feels till you're in it. Haley's father, Anthony Byrne,
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Speaker 1: says his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.
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Speaker 1: My wife opened the door and she was not there.
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Speaker 1: Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any
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Speaker 1: real leads. One the man he believes took his daughter.
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Speaker 1: There's no telling who he is. He might not be
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Speaker 1: thirty two, he could be fifty five and a human
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Speaker 1: trafficking organization. There's no tell, Shawna and Anthony to you, Shawna,
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Speaker 1: So after you determined she's gone, what do you do? Well,
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Speaker 1: we have two other children in the home that we
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Speaker 1: did not want to upset. So the first thing that
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Speaker 1: we did was we got them up early, earlier than usual.
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Speaker 1: We got them up, we went for our routeam, we
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Speaker 1: brushed our teeth, we got them at their bookbacks, we
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Speaker 1: got them to school. The second that they got out
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Speaker 1: of the van, I called nine one one and said,
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Speaker 1: we need to get police here, because at that point
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Speaker 1: we still didn't know what had happened. We just knew
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Speaker 1: she was missing. So by the time I got home
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Speaker 1: from dropping them off at the school, which is five
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Speaker 1: minutes away, Tony was already here. The police were on
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Speaker 1: their way, and then from them, the investigation began. Now
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Speaker 1: let me ask you this that night, after police had
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Speaker 1: come and gone and you were at home, what was
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Speaker 1: going through your mind? What if anything, did you do
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Speaker 1: to try to find Haley. We called everyone we knew,
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Speaker 1: we contacted every single person that we knew on Facebook,
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Speaker 1: every single person that had anything to do with her.
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Speaker 1: And I grew up in foster care. So my mentality
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Speaker 1: was that she was she'd run away with a friend
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Speaker 1: and she was going to go have fun for a weekend,
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Speaker 1: and that she was going to be back in a
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Speaker 1: few days. The cops would find her. She's not street smart,
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Speaker 1: she's not capable of living on the streets and not
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Speaker 1: getting caught by police. So my mentality was that she
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Speaker 1: would be home in a couple of days and the
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Speaker 1: cops would find her. Do you guys have a security
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Speaker 1: system with cameras? We do. It's yes, no cameras, but
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Speaker 1: it's there. There's a camera on the front door. There's
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Speaker 1: a camera. And so let me ask you, did you
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Speaker 1: review the surreillance video we did? What did you say?
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Speaker 1: It doesn't record all the time, and the last footage
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Speaker 1: that had been captured was from two days ago and
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Speaker 1: it was Haley walking down the stairs to go make
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Speaker 1: cereal in the morning. Darn darn. Okay, so you're hoping,
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Speaker 1: against hope that she has just gone away with friends.
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Speaker 1: Do they take her? Does she have devices like an
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Speaker 1: iPad or an iPhone she did, but that this is
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Speaker 1: kind of complicated. She did have phones that they were
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Speaker 1: not ours, like we had not given them to her.
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Speaker 1: She had gotten phones from friends because we did. We
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Speaker 1: limited her internet access like the freaking Guantanamo Bay. She
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Speaker 1: was not allowed any Yeah. Yeah, let Tony talk about this.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, I break in for a moment. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I had recognized some behavior and my daughter that that
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Speaker 1: was troubling to me. I saw some behavior that I
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Speaker 1: felt like was was off, and I felt like she
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Speaker 1: might need to talk to someone. I could see signs.
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Speaker 1: She was dressing up in pigtails and using bottles, and
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Speaker 1: there were things that were I was I could tell
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Speaker 1: someone was leading her to different behavior that I wasn't encouraging,
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Speaker 1: and so I started to control. I mean, we were
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Speaker 1: already controlling her internet access to some degree, and we
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Speaker 1: were in her phone was limited. Okay, white a minute?
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Speaker 1: White a minute? White a minute? Who waa white? White?
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Speaker 1: Jackie Howard here in the studio has this question, do
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Speaker 1: you believe that this guy, Michael Weiselovski was telling her
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Speaker 1: what to do to dress differently, to act differently. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we know he was absolutely, Yeah to Stephen Lampley detective
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Speaker 1: at Stephen Lampley dot com. When cops get a hold
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Speaker 1: of say a laptop, a phone, um or if they
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Speaker 1: don't get the phone, can't they subpoena the any activity
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Speaker 1: on those phones, on that iPad or a laptop, most
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Speaker 1: definitely And I have done that many many many times.
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Speaker 1: You you certainly can do You certainly can. Yes, So
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Speaker 1: Anthony and Shawna did she have a laptop or an iPad?
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Speaker 1: Know she did, but not that she communicated with him
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Speaker 1: on this And this is just side note. All of
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Speaker 1: the communications that happened between her and him happened at
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Speaker 1: school on her school cromepad that was issued by the pool.
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Speaker 1: They were stars both the time. But yeah, and we
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Speaker 1: have got like we've not discussed this part of it
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Speaker 1: because we don't like, we don't harbor any ill will
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Speaker 1: towards the school. But it is so the school gave
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Speaker 1: her a chrome pad. She had an i EP, which
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Speaker 1: is an Individualized education plan because she special needs. One
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Speaker 1: of those accommodations was she's never to be online unsupervised,
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Speaker 1: and yet she's still communicating with this grown man. She's
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Speaker 1: printing out pornographic images in the school library. Did this
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Speaker 1: They did not monitor it like it should. How did
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Speaker 1: this guy sign in? How my pro ana chap website?
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Speaker 1: It is a website for people that have anorexia that
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Speaker 1: don't want to hide it, that don't want to go
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Speaker 1: get help for it, that want to keep their anorexia
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Speaker 1: and are proud of it. And and the reason why
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Speaker 1: he said, did what white? Wait, I'm drinking out of
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Speaker 1: a fire hydrant here. It's just too much. It wants white.
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Speaker 1: She's in an anorexia chat room. And are you saying
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Speaker 1: that it's for people that are proud of being anteraxic. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's for people that don't. They don't want to hide it.
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Speaker 1: It's pro anna, it's my pro anna. So it's pro anorexia.
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Speaker 1: Do they want to get well? Do they want to
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Speaker 1: get well? They don't see hold on, they don't see
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Speaker 1: anything problem. They don't see a problem with an anorexia,
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Speaker 1: and they don't feel like it. It's it's a life choice,
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Speaker 1: just like your sexuality is a life choice. They choose
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Speaker 1: to believe that their innorexia is a lifestyle choice and
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Speaker 1: that is their right to have. Can I tell you
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Speaker 1: something already? At school? And Lucy's in the fifth grade,
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Speaker 1: fifth grade, okay, there this started when she was ten,
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Speaker 1: or I found out about it when she was ten.
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Speaker 1: There is a group of girls, I call them in
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Speaker 1: a euphemistic way, the lettuce leaf bunch, get it bunch,
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Speaker 1: and all they eat at aged ten, I didn't even
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Speaker 1: know what a salad was at age ten. Okay, my
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Speaker 1: mom gave us vegetables every day, but not a salad.
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Speaker 1: What kid wants to eat a salad with? Like, we've
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Speaker 1: got a great on it. But anyway, all these little
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Speaker 1: girls eat, they have some lettuce on their plate. I said,
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Speaker 1: Lucy Lynch, do not do not. And then I pop
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Speaker 1: in when I can unannounced, to see what she's eating.
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Speaker 1: I know exactly what time they're having lunch. I don't
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Speaker 1: tell her. That's why I'm there. I go and go, Hi,
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Speaker 1: I love you, and leave, but I see her plate.
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Speaker 1: So anorexia can start very early, and this freak disperv
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Speaker 1: knows to go on like a girl's anorexic website chat
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Speaker 1: room Anthony Well, and if I could, I mean, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't that Hayley felt like she was anorexic. It was
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Speaker 1: that she didn't know what was wrong with her and
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Speaker 1: was trying to find discover through her own means and
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Speaker 1: self diagnosed so that she could change all the bad
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Speaker 1: things that kept happening to her. So she's out in
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Speaker 1: an anorexia support group trying to figure out if maybe
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Speaker 1: that has something to do with their problems, and then
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Speaker 1: she bumps into this guy who's in his thirties, who
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Speaker 1: has been in this chat room before and has met
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Speaker 1: other women, and has then taken advantage of that relationship
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Speaker 1: by saying he's a mentor that can help them, as
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Speaker 1: opposed to someone who is going to then take advantage
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Speaker 1: of them, which is what ultimately happened, not only in
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Speaker 1: my daughter's case, but in several others. Prime stories you have.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, the seventeen year old, disappeared from her home
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Speaker 1: back on May twenty, twenty sixteen. Her family told us
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Speaker 1: then she has Asperger syndrome and left home without her medication.
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Speaker 1: Last year, her family told NBC Charlotte they tried to
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Speaker 1: limit their daughter's use of the computer after discovering she
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Speaker 1: had been talking to strangers online. According to the Observer,
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Speaker 1: Burne's father said she left a diary behind that detailed
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Speaker 1: a plan to run away with a thirty two year
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Speaker 1: old man she met online. Her family says she did
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Speaker 1: not have a cell phone, but still they believe she
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Speaker 1: was able to communicate with someone and left to meet
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Speaker 1: that person with me right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns,
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Speaker 1: the mom and dad of Helly Troy Slayton, California, defense
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Speaker 1: lawyer Stephen Lampley detective at Stephen Lampley dot com. You
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Speaker 1: know ek Ellen Claurain crime online dot com. I remember
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Speaker 1: sitting down. I know you remember this too, with who
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Speaker 1: I now considered to be a friend, Alicia Kozlowski. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure I just butchered her last name. And she was
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Speaker 1: lured online at about age twelve thirteen out of her home.
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Speaker 1: The family was having this nice, big post Christmas dinner.
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Speaker 1: It was over the holiday, and she had been talking
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Speaker 1: to what she thought was another little girl online. Then
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Speaker 1: the little girl admitted, Hey, I'm really a boy. I
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Speaker 1: thought you wouldn't talk to me, blah blah, And they've
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Speaker 1: been talking for months and months. He goes, let's meet
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Speaker 1: come outside. I'm outside. She goes outside. She's immediately kidnapped
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Speaker 1: in a car by a grown man, held hostage, and
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Speaker 1: barely escaped with her life. My point is Eka They
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Speaker 1: also met in a chat room. So what can you
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Speaker 1: tell me, Ellen Klaurin, about how this complete pervert Michael
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Speaker 1: Wasilowski mates little Haley Burns. Well, this predator is on
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Speaker 1: a chat room that is frequented by young women who
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Speaker 1: are dealing with a vulnerable situation, and so he knows
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Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing. And as you point out, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: anyone can pretend to be anyone or be a certain
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Speaker 1: type of person when they're online. And this predator spent
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Speaker 1: a long time grooming Haley. And this was not something
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Speaker 1: that happened overnight. And I'm learning some new details from
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Speaker 1: Haley's parents about the fact that he has done this before,
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Speaker 1: which doesn't surprise me at all. But this predator knew
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Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing. He took advantage of a vulnerability,
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Speaker 1: and he kept communicating with her and tricked her into
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Speaker 1: believing that he would safe and he was her friends
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Speaker 1: and Stephen Lampley Detective Stephen Lampley dot com, we find
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Speaker 1: so many instances h kidnap and false imprisonment based on guys.
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Speaker 1: They're like wolves finding victims in chat rooms. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is by far not the first case I've heard of.
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Speaker 1: Steve it's actually an epidemic. I spent a good amount
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Speaker 1: of time in the latter part of my career. I
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Speaker 1: know it's hard for you to imagine, but I was
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Speaker 1: a fourteen year old girl online and Nancy, I would okay, Yea,
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Speaker 1: that is that I didn't I'd expect that to come
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Speaker 1: out of your mouth when you said this is hard
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Speaker 1: for you to imagine. I was thinking when man to
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Speaker 1: find witnesses. I've been in every strip club in town,
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Speaker 1: every crack house, every dump, you name it. But when
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Speaker 1: you said I was a fourteen year fourteen year old girl,
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Speaker 1: I did not imagine that you got me, Stephen. But
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Speaker 1: I would get online and the chat rooms Nancy that
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Speaker 1: I get on were not sexually related that they were
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Speaker 1: generic chat rooms Nancy. And there were times I would
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Speaker 1: get on on the end the chat room and in
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Speaker 1: a span of less than thirty seconds, I would have
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Speaker 1: mine to twelve adults talking to me, knowing full well
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Speaker 1: that I was a juvenile because of my chat room name.
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Speaker 1: They readily recognized that as being a juvenil, and they
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Speaker 1: lashed on me in record time. Now, Anthony and Shawna,
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Speaker 1: I hate for you to even hear this, to think
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Speaker 1: your little girl. You were doing all this to protect her.
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Speaker 1: Then she goes to school where they give her a
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Speaker 1: chromebook and she meets this guy. I've learned that some
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Speaker 1: of the behavior that she was exhibiting, and you knew
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Speaker 1: something was way wrong. She was suddenly started using a
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Speaker 1: pacifier and calling somebody online daddy. Yes, I didn't know that, yep,
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Speaker 1: Oh dear Lord, haven't, Oh dear Lord. I found a
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Speaker 1: lot of signs. But at the same time, you know,
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Speaker 1: she was in therapy, and the therapists were essentially saying
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Speaker 1: if she uses a pacifier, it's perhaps to help comfort her.
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Speaker 1: So I was watching the behavior and bringing it up,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time, you know, wanted her to
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Speaker 1: feel okay to express herself as well. So tell me
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Speaker 1: when you first got any inkling where she was and
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Speaker 1: when you first heard the name Michael wi Slovsky Shanna.
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Speaker 1: It was on June twenty three, is about eight forty
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Speaker 1: seven at night. Tony and I had just sat down
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Speaker 1: to watch a movie and we had gotten Showmarch, which
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Speaker 1: is a local restaurant here in Charlotte, were just getting
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Speaker 1: ready to eat and I got a Facebook message from
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Speaker 1: a woman I did not know in Romania. And she said,
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Speaker 1: are you the mother of Haley Burns And I responded
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Speaker 1: back and I said yes, and she said I'm in
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Speaker 1: communication with her safe and she wants to come home,
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Speaker 1: to which we had been informed by the FBI to
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Speaker 1: be very careful because people will call you and say,
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Speaker 1: I know where your kid is, but you have to
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Speaker 1: give me money. Psychic people will try to take advantage
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Speaker 1: of you. So I was a lot more skeptical, let's say,
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Speaker 1: than Tony was. Tony was like, oh my god, it's
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Speaker 1: her they sent. She sent a picture of Haley, and
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Speaker 1: Tony was like, that's definitely her. But I still needed
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Speaker 1: more I needed. I said, ask Hayley something that only
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Speaker 1: Haley would know. And I have a dent in my
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Speaker 1: head from when I was hit in the head of
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Speaker 1: the hammer when I was a kid. Very few people
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Speaker 1: know that. And Haley said, tell my mom. She has
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Speaker 1: a big dent in her head from a hammer. And
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Speaker 1: that is what I knew immediately, that is my daughter.
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Speaker 1: And it was like an old fashioned game of telephone
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Speaker 1: because Haley is chatting on a chat room with this
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Speaker 1: woman in Romania. The woman in Romania is on a
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Speaker 1: tablet with me face timing. I am on. I am
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Speaker 1: communicating with my voice to Tony who's on his phone
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Speaker 1: with Pete or agent contact, who, by the way, was
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Speaker 1: at Disney with his family on vacation when all of
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Speaker 1: this happened, and he stepped up in the middle of
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Speaker 1: everything and didn't We felt so bad, but he was
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Speaker 1: so happy to do it, even though he was on
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Speaker 1: vacation with his family at Disney. And then Pete was
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Speaker 1: on his phone with the detectives in Georgia, so every
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Speaker 1: question took five minutes to ask for them to ask Pete,
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Speaker 1: to ask Tony, to ask me, to ask her to
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Speaker 1: ask Hayley. So the process took a little longer than normal.
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Speaker 1: But after about fifteen minutes we had established that it
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Speaker 1: was Haley and we were then just trying to establish
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Speaker 1: where she was. But she did not know where she was.
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Speaker 1: She said, she said, I'm in a brick a two
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Speaker 1: story brick building in Georgia, and that's all we knew.
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Speaker 1: Here is Alison Latto's WSOCTV lawrence reveal the level of
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Speaker 1: abuse Charlatein endured while being held captive in Georgia for
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Speaker 1: more than a year. The documents stay that Michael Weislovsky
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Speaker 1: can find Haley Burns enough stairs bedroom of his Duluth home,
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Speaker 1: telling her that she would be arrested if she left.
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Speaker 1: Wisulovsky reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen year old
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Speaker 1: captive's life, keeping a food journal detailing how many calories
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Speaker 1: she'd eaten each day, and withholding food from Haley if
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Speaker 1: he thought she'd eaten too many calories the day before.
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Speaker 1: Doctors at the Atlanta Hospital who examined Haley after she
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Speaker 1: was rescued, determined she was suffering from malnutrition. According to Warrens,
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Speaker 1: Her parents told Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds.
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Speaker 1: Haileyburns disappeared from her Valentine home in May of twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 1: This past weekend, the FBI responded to a tip and
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Speaker 1: tracked her to a home in Georgia. Nancy Grace Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories signing off goodbye friend