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Normally Podcast: Trump’s Health, Comedy on Trial, and the Future of America · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Guys, we are back on Bromley The Show with Romalis
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  Speaker 1: takes for when the news gets weird. I am markasan
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  Speaker 1: him and.
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  Speaker 2: I am Karl Marks Big News, Mary Katherine. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: is not that and he didn't resign. That was the
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  Speaker 2: other insane thing that people were speculating that he was
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  Speaker 2: going to hold a press conference and resign because they
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  Speaker 2: had never even heard of Donald Trump before to imagine
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  Speaker 2: that he would do.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, I just what, guys.
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  Speaker 2: The left has their own conspiracy theory insanity like this.
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  Speaker 2: But then it makes me feel worse overall, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like it's like, I'm glad the right doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: monopoly on crazy people believing crazy things and just asking questions,
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  Speaker 2: just asking really stupid questions. But then it does make
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  Speaker 2: me worried about the country as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and we also have a troll in chief, which
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  Speaker 1: means once he knows that this is what people do
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  Speaker 1: when he takes two days off, he's going to we
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  Speaker 1: aren't taking two days off so that people will just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely spin out online and then he can come back
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  Speaker 1: and be like trick yah, I'm alive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing about that troll in chief is that
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  Speaker 2: he has an incredible ability to unmask the other side.
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  Speaker 2: I think that he really makes them do and say
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  Speaker 2: crazy things. Let's hear from Tim Walls, who was Kamala
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  Speaker 2: Harris's VP pick, because he was such a normal guy,
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  Speaker 2: Mary Catherine, he was such a normal guy. He would
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  Speaker 2: appeal to other normal guys. And then he said.
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  Speaker 3: This, you get up in the morning and you doom
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  Speaker 3: scroll through things. And although I will say this, the
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  Speaker 3: last few days you woke up thinking there might be news,
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  Speaker 3: just saying just saying there will be news sometime, just
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  Speaker 3: so you know there will be news.
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  Speaker 2: Really there will be news. Donald Trump will die someday.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you're sharing with us.
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  Speaker 1: Walls also, just like, in addition to being creepy and trashy,
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  Speaker 1: it's so online because unfortunately we to some extent, we
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  Speaker 1: have to live our lives on the internets, on the
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  Speaker 1: social media's. But for normal people over Labor Day weekend,
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  Speaker 1: they were not experiencing the crash out of the left
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  Speaker 1: fantasizing that Trump was dead. But Tim Walls, of course
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  Speaker 1: was because despite being a very normal football coach, this
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  Speaker 1: is the life that he this is the circle he's in,
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  Speaker 1: and he knew that everyone he was talking to at
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  Speaker 1: that event would be conversant in the idea that this
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  Speaker 1: was the big fantasy over the weekend, and I just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't speak well, doesn't speak well.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are weird. You guys are weird. Stop being weird.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. In addition to coming back, you know, from his
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  Speaker 1: weekend hiatus, Trump came back strong.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say weekend at Bernie, but okay, close.
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  Speaker 1: He came back strong with announcements that, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: we had sort of anticipated this, that National Guard will
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  Speaker 1: be deployed in Chicago. I think Baltimore is on a
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  Speaker 1: possibility list. The announcements have kept it mostly to immigration enforcement,
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  Speaker 1: which is a federal issue, but it's clear that Trump
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  Speaker 1: wants to solve other problems as well, the problems of
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  Speaker 1: general violence and violent crime in these cities that the
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  Speaker 1: cities themselves have not solved, and he's just like, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go do it. We're going to go do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And for some reason, the governors of those states
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  Speaker 2: are like, no, don't don't help us with our crime problem.
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  Speaker 2: We don't like you. And that's supposed to be a
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  Speaker 2: normal thing for them to be doing instead of saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this isn't the president's problem. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: get on this. We are going to do a B
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  Speaker 2: and C to help fight crime in these cities. Instead
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  Speaker 2: of that they're pretending there is no crime, which I'm
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  Speaker 2: just not sure is the right strategy here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sympathetic to governors or mayors who are like, WHOA,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't within your power, and there are certain things
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  Speaker 1: you can do here. But I think the biggest utility
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  Speaker 1: of Trump saying he's going to do these things, or
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  Speaker 1: if you just end up with the National Guards standing
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  Speaker 1: in front of a few federal buildings, the thing it's
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  Speaker 1: best at is shaming cities into doing the jobs they
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  Speaker 1: should have been doing, because it points out, Okay, there
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  Speaker 1: is a real problem here, and perhaps perhaps there's a
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  Speaker 1: solution that includes the presence of law enforcement and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: national guard, right, and so it shows that there is
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  Speaker 1: a solution, which then makes the JB. Pritzkers, Governor of
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  Speaker 1: Illinois or Wesmore, governor of Maryland.
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  Speaker 2: Go.
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  Speaker 1: Now everybody sees that there could be a way to
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  Speaker 1: solve this problem. Nobody wants that perhaps we should get
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  Speaker 1: on solving this problem. So I mean the utility is there.
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  Speaker 1: I get their concerns, and I have concerns too, But
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  Speaker 1: the thing is, you can't tell regular people that zero
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  Speaker 1: murders is not pretty good, Like that's a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: outcome in d see over a week and a half
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  Speaker 1: when you have three or fours of a week normally.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of folks just go like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds nice to have these guys around for a
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  Speaker 1: little while and keep things under the control.
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  Speaker 2: And as we pointed out in a previous episode, there
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  Speaker 2: are National Guard troops in the New York City subway
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  Speaker 2: for similar reasons, and nobody seems to have a problem
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  Speaker 2: with that. That's not fascism. This is fascism.
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  Speaker 1: Let's also note national Guard in the nation's capital after
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  Speaker 1: January sixth, for like six to eight.
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  Speaker 2: Months, right, they were there was fascism in very large numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So this is not an unprecedented thing. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact is there are real problems in these cities. And
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  Speaker 1: let me let you hear Jamie Pritzker, the governor of Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: who should be on top of solving these problems, tell
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  Speaker 1: you what he thinks about them. You're going to hear people,
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  Speaker 1: especially pat his past weekend, fifty four shot, seven dead.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to say the city's not safe. Would you
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  Speaker 1: ask your friends to ride the l after midnight or
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  Speaker 1: after nine o'clock at night, even to come down to
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  Speaker 1: the city from O'Hare.
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  Speaker 4: Look, big cities have crime, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 4: But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is
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  Speaker 4: doing targeting shadow. He's overlooking red states that have much
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  Speaker 4: higher crime rates.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't say that, Oh, just big
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  Speaker 2: cities just have crime and that's the way it is,
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  Speaker 2: and expect that to be okay. Donald Trump is actually
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  Speaker 2: saying we can help solve this, we can help with this.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be the governor of Illinois and say no,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. This is just the way it is.
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  Speaker 1: What it does is say and Brandon Johnson is the
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  Speaker 1: same way. Who's the mayor of Chicago. Brandon Johnson? Oh gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that guy has like a six percent approval rating. And
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  Speaker 1: this is why his quote was something like similar, which
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  Speaker 1: is like, there's always crime in big cities. It's because
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  Speaker 1: of gun laws in other places, and those guns somehow
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  Speaker 1: magically get to Chicago and magically start working to kill
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  Speaker 1: other people here more than they do in other places.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Indiana is always like, why are you guys looking
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  Speaker 2: at us? We don't have your crime rate?
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  Speaker 1: No, And what it does is it absolves him of
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  Speaker 1: all responsibility and tells you he will never be solving
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  Speaker 1: the problem, which then makes regular people much more open
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  Speaker 1: to someone who will solve the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. In as Stepman, she lives in New York now,
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  Speaker 2: but she used to live in DC, and she tweeted
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  Speaker 2: the other day from a visit to DC, there's not
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  Speaker 2: a single solitary bum in or around Union Station. I
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  Speaker 2: have never seen this in my life. Extraordinary What can
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  Speaker 2: be accomplished with supposedly intractable problems if you just ditched
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  Speaker 2: the idiocy. I mean that is huge. I see Union
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  Speaker 2: Station as always filled with homeless people surrounding it. It's
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  Speaker 2: just the way it always was. It's the way it's
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  Speaker 2: been for the last decade, and it doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: be that way. And I like to see that well.
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  Speaker 1: And I also one last point on this. I am
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  Speaker 1: open to the idea that, like, there are trade offs
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  Speaker 1: for having a lot of enforcement around and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of military presence, and that there might be liberty costs here,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm open to that idea. What I'm not open
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  Speaker 1: to is the idea that presence causes more crime, which
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  Speaker 1: is somehow the argument they start making, like, no, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it causes more crime. I in fact think
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  Speaker 1: it lessens crime, as it has at Union Station, which
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  Speaker 1: I came in and out of the other day without event,
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  Speaker 1: and it was quite pleasant and it was like it
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  Speaker 1: was twenty years ago. Not to sound like an old timer,
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  Speaker 1: but my friend Matt Connetti, who writes for Commentary and
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  Speaker 1: other folks, noted that when I got to DC and
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  Speaker 1: when he got to DC, and that like sort of
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  Speaker 1: post nine to eleven era of the George W. Bush hears,
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  Speaker 1: we were probably benefiting from increased presence in the streets
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  Speaker 1: of Washington, d C. Where we were concerned about a
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  Speaker 1: present terrorist threat. But as a result, it was some
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  Speaker 1: of the best times in the city. And now it
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  Speaker 1: kind of felt like that again. So presence, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, another Donald Trump thing that he did
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  Speaker 2: once he confirmed that he was still alive. Pete Hegseth
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  Speaker 2: tweeted out Donald Trump truth earlier this morning. On my orders,
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  Speaker 2: US military forces conducted a kinetic strike against positively identified
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  Speaker 2: trend Ragua Narco terrorists in the southcom Area of Responsibility
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  Speaker 2: TDA is a designated born terrorist organization operating under the
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  Speaker 2: control of Nicholas Madura, responsible for mass murdered, drug trafficking,
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  Speaker 2: sex trafficking, and acts of violence and terror across the
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  Speaker 2: United States and the Western Hemisphere. And then they posted
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  Speaker 2: the video of this little boat going boom.
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  Speaker 1: It was really something well, and this is what the
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration gets. The Trump administration is interesting. It was
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  Speaker 1: interesting the first time as well, because there is this
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be in wars, right, and it
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  Speaker 1: makes that very clear. However I call it however, however,
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  Speaker 1: I call it occasional bellicosity. Like he likes the flex
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, whether it's sole money or this. He
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  Speaker 1: likes you to see the tape. He likes you to
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: know that enemies have been taken out. And Kelly, an
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  Speaker 1: obvious example is the bombing and Iran, which was masterful,
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  Speaker 1: and it sends the message that like, these are things
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  Speaker 1: we can do, we are not always interested in doing them.
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  Speaker 1: I like that part. I would like a little more
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  Speaker 1: information on this target.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was expecting actually some pushback. It's
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  Speaker 2: been actually muted, very very muted. Pushback. I guess the
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  Speaker 2: left was startled that Donald Trump was actually still alive
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  Speaker 2: and on the regard, yeah, and the right, who has
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  Speaker 2: decided that no military use is ever okay. That part
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  Speaker 2: of the right also very very quiet. I guess no
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  Speaker 2: Jews are involved, so who cares well.
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  Speaker 1: I also think just like Americans in general, are very
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with an occasional flex. They don't want to be
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: boots on the ground. I don't want to do nation building.
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  Speaker 1: But they're like, oh, did that go well? And some
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  Speaker 1: people that were declared and identified terrorists are gone? We
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: feel okay about that, We feel good about that.
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  Speaker 2: Will be right back on normally with the story of
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  Speaker 2: a British comedian being arrested for some tweets pathetic written.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Don't like it at all. Be right back. We are
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: back on normally with the story of Graham Linehn and
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  Speaker 2: I hope I'm saying that correctly. He is an Irish
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  Speaker 2: comedian and co creator of one of the most popular
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  Speaker 2: sitcoms in Britain called Father Ted. British people. If you
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  Speaker 2: know British people, they just walk around quoting Father Ted
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  Speaker 2: all the time. It is a very specific kind of
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  Speaker 2: British humor that I don't always get, but I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's insane that he was arrested at Heathrow Airport
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  Speaker 2: after landing from a trip to America and was told
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  Speaker 2: that he was being arrested because of some tweets that
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  Speaker 2: he had. I am concerned about the UK. I see
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  Speaker 2: them as you know, a very close ally. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how else to look at them other than heading
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  Speaker 2: down a direction that is scary to me. And what's
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  Speaker 2: really worrisome to me, and this is you know, happens
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  Speaker 2: in America too. There's a lot of like we should
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  Speaker 2: this big problem should not be dealt with because of
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  Speaker 2: how A look to other people. For example, Lord David Blunkett,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: he was a Labor member of Parliament for many years.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's in the House of Lords. He said, when
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  Speaker 2: police and security services get it badly wrong, they play
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  Speaker 2: into the hands of enemies, the people who undermine our
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  Speaker 2: freedom of democracy and our freedom of speech. But this
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  Speaker 2: part is what I'm listening for. So they play into
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: a narrative which the Americans have come out with, which
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  Speaker 2: is that we no longer believe in free speech. And
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: of course we are in favor of free speech. If
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  Speaker 2: you have to say it after some a comedian has
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  Speaker 2: been arrested at your airport, it's a problem. It's now
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  Speaker 2: the Americans doing it to you.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we need to add the CARDI B gifts.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, this is what I'm saying. That's how we
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  Speaker 1: know because you just arrested somebody for tweets exactly. Our
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  Speaker 1: friend Charles Cook, who writes for National Review, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's been watching this since he immigrated to America. He's
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  Speaker 1: now a citizen, but that's the country of his birth, England,
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  Speaker 1: and he notes that this is the new British mode
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  Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five. Britain has a Parliament
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  Speaker 1: that can meet to help you kill yourself, but not
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  Speaker 1: to protect your speech, a next checker that can pluck
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  Speaker 1: the population's feathers from nine thousand different angles, but that
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  Speaker 1: has no interest in generating wealth. And a network of
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  Speaker 1: police forces that are incapable of solving the most sordid
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  Speaker 1: crimes imaginable, but that are sufficiently well staffed to guarantee
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  Speaker 1: that if an outspoken Irish comedian steps off a plane
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  Speaker 1: from Arizona, he will be met by enough lawmen to
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  Speaker 1: fill a small office crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's really crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that to me is the thing that brings
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  Speaker 1: this together with worries I have about our country or
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  Speaker 1: worries I have about Canada where you see things like
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  Speaker 1: this is the emphasis on just nailing citizens for very
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  Speaker 1: small offenses while favoring non citizens and or people engaged
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  Speaker 1: in actual violent crime for every exception in the book,
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  Speaker 1: every kindness you could come up with, ever a bit
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  Speaker 1: of compassion week muster for those folks, while the actual
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  Speaker 1: citizens who are trying to be law abiding are getting
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  Speaker 1: nitpicked to death.
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  Speaker 2: And it's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it feels like to me in San Francisco,
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  Speaker 1: as what it feels like in Toronto, as it it
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  Speaker 1: feels like in London, and people are real risk, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they're speech policing instead of actually policing. And what
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: he was referring to as the groomer gangs and gang
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  Speaker 1: raping of many people in the UK, which is sort
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  Speaker 1: of given.
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  Speaker 2: A pass absolutely. A Prime Minister spokesman said this is
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  Speaker 2: an operational matter for the police, but the Prime Minister
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: and the Home Secretary have been clear about what their
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  Speaker 2: priorities on crime and policing are. That's tackling antisocial behavior,
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  Speaker 2: shoplifting and street crime, as well as reducing serious violent
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: crimes such as knife crime and violence against women. The
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  Speaker 2: spokesman added, Sir Kuir did not agree with the comment
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  Speaker 2: by Elon Musk that the arrest showed Britain was now
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  Speaker 2: a quote police state. But again, your concern over what
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  Speaker 2: America is saying about you should not be the main
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  Speaker 2: topic of conversation here. The fact that Elon Musk is
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  Speaker 2: saying it's the police state, the fact that Americans are
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  Speaker 2: worried about Britain not having free speech, This is not
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  Speaker 2: what's causing the problem. The problem is being caused by
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  Speaker 2: the policies that you have, and it's been going on
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. We're going to play a clip
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  Speaker 2: from Constantine Kissin. This is from a few years ago
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  Speaker 2: where he exposed this issue originally at least to me
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  Speaker 2: and to many other people in the UK.
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  Speaker 5: In Russia last year, four hundred people were arrested for
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  Speaker 5: things that they said on social media. Four hundred people
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  Speaker 5: in Russia. Obviously this country is very different. How many
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  Speaker 5: people do you think were arrested in Britain for things
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  Speaker 5: they said on social media last year? Go on, take
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  Speaker 5: a guess I've no idea. Three three hundred really.
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  Speaker 2: Arrested for what I said on social media?
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  Speaker 5: What sort of things get you up? One example I've
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  Speaker 5: given my show is there was a young woman from
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  Speaker 5: Liverpool called Chelsea Russell, and people can look this up.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Her friend was killed in a car crash, nineteen year
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: old woman, and she posted the lyrics of his favorite
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  Speaker 5: song on her Instagram and there was a rap song,
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  Speaker 5: so the lyrics contained several instances of the N word.
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  Speaker 5: She was arrested, prosecuted, found guilty, given five hundred dollars
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  Speaker 5: of community service and a fine tagged, and for a
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  Speaker 5: year she was under eight pm to a am curfew.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness in Britain.
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  Speaker 5: In Britain in twenty eighteen, the.
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  Speaker 2: Police state, Yeah, there's no other way to look at that.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the thing is so Graham Lineman, the comedian.
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  Speaker 2: He posted his story on his substack. He also has
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  Speaker 2: a recording of the original. He started recording when the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: police approached him and what they were saying to him,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and there's a moment where they say you're under arrest
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  Speaker 2: and he cannot believe it. He is just besides himself.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's all all curse words, So we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to play it. But there's a lot of just
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  Speaker 2: shock in his voice and the sounds that he's making.
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  Speaker 2: It is somebody who is absolutely baffled that his words
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  Speaker 2: on the internet are getting him arrested. And I will
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  Speaker 2: say the other thing is is like people are like, go,
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  Speaker 2: what did he say? He did not say anything that
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: warrants anything even remotely close to this kind of response.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I'll say that the worst thing that he said was
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: if a man is in a woman's bathroom, you should
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: call the police, you should confront them, and you should
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  Speaker 2: kick him in the balls if you have to. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: that is the worst of it. And the rest of
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  Speaker 2: it is like he posted a photo of a pro
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: trans march and he said you could smell this picture.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the tweets that they
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: mentioned had gotten him into trouble. This is absolute insanity
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know how British people can go on
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  Speaker 2: knowing that they could be arrested for this kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that their words on the internet, knowing that they're
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: being compared unfavorably to Russia for freedom of speech.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and first of all, if saying kick him in
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the balls was a crime. Every single My siblings and
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  Speaker 1: I would have been arrested so many times as children.
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  Speaker 1: But no, what, how do you speak at all if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: these are the rules? And I think he was made
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: an example so that people know you can't be making
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  Speaker 1: jokes like this, you can't be making untoward comments. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: again the difference between what you use law enforcement for.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Like the people in our country and certainly the people
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of the left in Britain would tell me that the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: National Guard and ICE are fascists, right, that we're living
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: in a police state because I saw National Guard when
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I was leaving Union Station, because they had removed homeless
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: camps and were going after people who might do violent crime. Right,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm actually okay with that use of law enforcement and military.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Those same people we're happy to use law enforcement to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: go after people having barbecues in their backyards five years ago,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and would happily use it to go after wrong speak
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  Speaker 1: in the United States, many of them led by Nina Jankowitz,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the former head of the Disinformation Agency within the United
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: States government. And I just can't take their argument seriously
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: when they come at me about the nice, peaceful National
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: guardsmen from Minnesota standing outside union station.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fascism. Not arresting comedians for words online.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: This one is. And I do want to note also
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to think just a reminder about our media on this
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  Speaker 1: sixty minutes like a flagship program, interviewed German speech police.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: There's actually it was on the show. He covered it
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a thirteen minute fawning segment a couple of months ago,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and this was the opening to it. In the United States,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: most of what anyone says, sends or streams online, even
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: if it's hate filed or toxic, is protected as free
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: speech under the First Amendment. But Germany is trying to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: bring some civility to the World Wide Web by policing
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it in a way most Americans could never imagine. As
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: we saw it often begins with a pre dawn wake
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: up call from the police, and then they happily tagged
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  Speaker 1: along for a bust right man for speaking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to be like Germany, but thanks
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: for that. Sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks sixty minutes. This is bad y y'all don't want
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to do this. We don't want to do this.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll be right back on normally where we're going
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to talk the US population may be shrinking, possibly shrinking,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: could be shrinking, and what that means be right back
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  Speaker 2: on normally.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are back on normally with more news
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: about the American population, with the with the birth rate,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: with the natalism. We like to talk about babies here, kuju,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: what's going on today?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Well. Derek Thompson, he is the author of the book
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I like to call Republicans for Republicanism from twenty years
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: ago for Democrats Prey, which is actually just called Abundance,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: posted this tweet the US population could shrink for the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: first time ever in twenty twenty five, and he says
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: three things that could happen next labor shortages and construction,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: farming and care, big demographic issues for New York City,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: LA and other big US metros, coverage age and US
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: instantly rises. Now here's my major problem with this. For
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: one thing, anything that has like could shrink could happen
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: if you don't even know if it's going to happen,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: but you're already trying to scare us about it. But
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the second thing is he posted these images that are
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: like immigrant workers in the construction labor force twenty twenty three.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm an immigrant I'm an immigrant, and I don't understand
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: why you're lumping us in with the people that were
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: coming in illegally across the border, which is what this is.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: He's trying to say, Look another thing. Immigrant to count
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: for more than a quarter of all physicians at US hospitals.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So you're telling me that a doctor who came here
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: twenty five years ago legally is that's the concern to you.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You think we're going to lose those people, because we're not.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: That's not who we're losing. Demographic components of change. Yes,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of young men came in on their own
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: across our poorest border over the last decade, and now
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that's been put to a stop. So yes, our age
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: is going to go up because we've stopped that flow.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: All of this is designed to make people afraid of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: fighting illegal immigration. If we really are going to have
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: labor shortages in these fields, we could always have legal immigration.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: We could always bring in guest workers, we could do
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of different things that we've been unable to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: do because we had this deluge at the border.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Well it's funny because this is like a warning sign
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: for fewer citizens means bad things, right, But they don't care.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: They just mean they just need people, right. Their argument
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: often is that the only source of vibrancy or population
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: should and can be only illegal immigration. And I just
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: don't believe that to be the truth. And then if
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you talk about natalism and if you talk about babies,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: then you're a weirdo. But he's conceding that fewer people
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and an older population can be not great for societies,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: as we have seen in places like Japan for instance.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Uh And so I don't know, I'm really not sure
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: how to square this circle when it comes to talking
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: about these issues.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Especially especially as on our last episode we talked about
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the writer at the Financial Times who discovered that maybe
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: liberals should be having more kids and the kids who
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: are being born in the US are larger being born
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: to conservative families and what that means for them politically
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and all of that. So, now that you guys have
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: made that leap, maybe make the next leap of yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: we're going to need more kids.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, the big demographic issues for New York City,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: LA and other big US metros, which he notes again
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: these are these little time bombs planted during COVID and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: before because there was some you know, as cities began
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to turn way left and liberals began to turn way
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: left and to forget about governing, which is what Derek
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Thompson is trying to encourage them to care about again.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: People started leaving. People started leaving, and then I term
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty, I watched cities commit suicide exactly.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're telling commercial real estate to hollow
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: itself out. You're telling your entire tax space that commutes
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in not to come. You're telling people that they're going
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to spend a lot of money to live in this city,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: but it no longer has any of the perks that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: it had before, like great restaurants and entertainment and zoos
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and museums. And also they're going to get mugged more often.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: It's not going to go well for you, and it
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: hasn't gone well for them, And this is going to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: have electoral con sequences moving forward.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Only someone had seen this coming, Mary Catherine, If only
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: someone had said something.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like we said a few things.
• 26:08
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• 26:12
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