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The Kenny Report | 6 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Live from the Skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Welcome to another week on the
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Report tonight. Why Anthony Alberesi's crass comments about Kylie
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  Speaker 1: point to double standards and deeper problems with his prime ministership.
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  Speaker 1: Another alleged anti Semitic attack against Sydney's Jewish community. I'll
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  Speaker 1: speak with the rabbi of the community that was targeted.
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  Speaker 1: China fires a long range missile in the South Pacific.
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  Speaker 3: What message is it trying to send?
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  Speaker 1: Also, Sophie Ellsworth in London and Gematon Uni and Caroline
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  Speaker 1: Drusso joined me.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: The story about our prime minister publicly lusting after Kylie
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  Speaker 1: Minogue is just too cringeworthy, I know, but it's important
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  Speaker 1: to discuss for a number of reasons.
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  Speaker 3: First, it shows poor judgment.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Alberzi has become so arrogant, so full of hubris,
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  Speaker 1: but he thinks he can do as he pleases. He
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  Speaker 1: keeps slipping up, but now finally people are waking up
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  Speaker 1: to it. In fact, it reminds me of one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite Kylie Minogue songs, You did it again.
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  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Albo's poor judgment is a problem, but this issue
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  Speaker 1: also goes to hypocrisy.
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  Speaker 3: Labour loves to lecture.
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  Speaker 1: And even demonize its political enemies as sexist and misogynistic,
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  Speaker 1: but it goes to water when its own side transgresses.
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  Speaker 1: And third, this highlights the dumbing down of politics and
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  Speaker 1: how Labor and the Green Left more broadly are constantly
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  Speaker 1: promoting idiocy and ignorance instead of facts and proper debate.
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  Speaker 1: This also embarrasses the nation. It demeans the office of
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister. I mean, the PM was in fig today
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  Speaker 1: formalizing an important defense agreement and trying to stand up
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  Speaker 1: to China, just as the communist superpower was intimidating the
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  Speaker 1: region with a long range missile test.
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  Speaker 3: In the South Pacific, important.
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  Speaker 1: Matters of state were at hand, and the PM's authority
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  Speaker 1: was undercut by his own inanity. Diplomats would have been sniggering,
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  Speaker 1: and some Pacific leaders would have been astonished by Albanese's
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  Speaker 1: schoolboy antics. The PM made the Kylie comments to a
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  Speaker 1: comedy podcaster who was given privileged access at the lodge
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  Speaker 1: where at rapid fire questions.
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  Speaker 4: Now every guest gets asked these shag Mary date Kylie
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  Speaker 4: Minou Nicole Kibman or Ronda Birchmore.
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  Speaker 3: I've just got married. I'm only six months in.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if it ghoest tits up, let's just pretend. Oh
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  Speaker 4: Kylie clearly in Mary Kylie and Shagger and Data all
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  Speaker 4: of the above.
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  Speaker 3: All right, it's a triple She's terrific.
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  Speaker 4: All right, that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: That, ladies and gentlemen, is the prime minister of your country.
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  Speaker 3: It was Trump like, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Albaut was so full of himself now that he behaves
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  Speaker 1: like Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 3: Why on he loved that? Well?
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  Speaker 1: Did he think he was funny or cool or something?
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  Speaker 1: Where's his judgment as the job god to his head?
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  Speaker 1: We all know what albanize he would say if Angus Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: Was involved in this sort of exchange.
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  Speaker 1: But for some reason he didn't think to be more
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  Speaker 1: sensible himself. It didn't take long for the real world
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  Speaker 1: to give him a reality check.
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  Speaker 5: I like to brank into the regular broadcasting for a
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  Speaker 5: special mention from the Prime Minister of Kamals Australia.
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  Speaker 3: People Anthony would like to have sex with.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Blow when you see the high moral ground to Barnaby
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  Speaker 1: Joyce on this sort of caper. Given the scandals that
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  Speaker 1: he's been involved in, you know you must be in strife.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Harmless fun or maybe not very statesmen like for the
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister to be talking about shagging Kylie Minogue.
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  Speaker 4: Well I wouldn't be talking about the word about nine
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  Speaker 4: air But yeah, I mean would she have any interested name?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: If he should be so lucky really good lord, he's
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  Speaker 1: not some bloke at the pub.
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  Speaker 3: He's the Prime Minister. Just a bit of decorum police.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Labor has always pretended it's got very high
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  Speaker 1: standards on this stuff. They weaponized issues of sexism against
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  Speaker 1: two coalition leaders, Scott Morrison and Tony Abbott. Abbot was
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  Speaker 1: scarified over nothing more than a wink.
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  Speaker 8: Rabbit.
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  Speaker 2: I work on an adult sick line to make ends meet.
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  Speaker 7: What was this?
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  Speaker 3: Oh doesn't look good?
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  Speaker 2: What a creep? What a total creep?
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  Speaker 9: Came to know who works on a because I would
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  Speaker 9: be a little bit like, well, okay, it.
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  Speaker 10: Just adds to the gaff prone anything around women.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Abbott, can you.
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  Speaker 11: Imagine another world leader dropping the ball like this?
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  Speaker 5: He's mocking the people who dare to criticize him.
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  Speaker 7: It just shows that Tony Abbott doesn't get it.
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  Speaker 10: You accept the PM's explanation of the I wasn't in
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  Speaker 10: the studio and didn't see what happened.
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  Speaker 5: I was looking at John Say, he was smiling at
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  Speaker 5: me and I winked back at him.
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  Speaker 3: What I did was.
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  Speaker 12: And you've seen Tony Abbott's reaction.
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  Speaker 1: A bencher who does phone sex work to make ends meet,
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  Speaker 1: says Tony Abbott is as sleazy as some of the people.
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  Speaker 3: Who call her Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: You're regretting yesterday's wink.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's time he stepped down as the
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  Speaker 3: Minister for Women.
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  Speaker 2: You can see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Labor and the Green lifts standard against the Coalition,
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  Speaker 1: but when it comes to their own leader, the Labor
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  Speaker 1: feminists have gone missing in action.
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  Speaker 7: Well, if what the Prime Minister's saying is that he's
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  Speaker 7: a fan of Kylie Minogue, I guess that puts him
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  Speaker 7: in a trunions at other Australians, including me, including me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a big fan of Kylie's as well.
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  Speaker 13: Would you play the shag married date game kind of podcash?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Now, no one's asked me that question. Anytime recently,
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  Speaker 7: I can tell you that Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well she was just asked that question and she
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  Speaker 3: didn't answer it, did she?
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  Speaker 1: As I often say, if the left didn't have double standards,
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  Speaker 1: that have no standards at all.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the other.
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  Speaker 1: Serious point that all this highlights is the dumbing down
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  Speaker 1: of politics. Albanez, he won't come onto this program. He
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  Speaker 1: won't sit here to answer serious questions about the economy
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  Speaker 1: or his election promises. He won't turn up here because
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  Speaker 1: he knows I'll disagree with him on some issues and
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  Speaker 1: I'll ask him some difficult questions. But instead you find
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  Speaker 1: time for some pretty questionable podcasts six months in.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely still Bonk and light Rabbits.
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  Speaker 14: Well, you know when we have time.
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  Speaker 4: That's fair. That's what happens. When you get married.
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  Speaker 3: You're to schedule it.
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  Speaker 14: Don't you, after the foot after as a good afrodisiac
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  Speaker 14: at souse win.
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  Speaker 1: This all goes to the dumbing down of politics, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Labor knows a lot of voters don't pay attention to
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  Speaker 1: the facts or serious political debates, so they flood social
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  Speaker 1: media trying to win over disengage voters with dross. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is their strategy and Sadly it's worked for them
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  Speaker 1: over the past two elections.
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  Speaker 3: Politics is getting dumber.
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  Speaker 1: Serious problems are not being addressed, and from the Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister down the government pumps out social media nonsense. They're
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  Speaker 1: treating voters like fools, and we've got to hope people
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  Speaker 1: are smart enough to object when it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: substance what government policies are doing to the economy and
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  Speaker 1: the like.
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  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of good news around.
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  Speaker 1: Inflation is still a problem, driven in large part by
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  Speaker 1: record federal government spending. Latest reports show Australia has the
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  Speaker 1: highest inflation of all the major developed economies, and that,
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  Speaker 1: of course has already driven interest rates back up. The
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  Speaker 1: interest rate rises, together with the government's new negative gearing
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  Speaker 1: exclusions and higher taxes on capital gains, have started to
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  Speaker 1: push house prices down.
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  Speaker 3: As we examined last week, the PM seems to think
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  Speaker 3: this is good news.
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  Speaker 14: The great news is that this Saturday, like last Saturday,
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  Speaker 14: first home buyers would have rocked up to auctions and
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  Speaker 14: not be competing with investors who want to negatively geared
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  Speaker 14: their properties and have tax payers backing in those investments.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not the case. What's happening is that people
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  Speaker 1: trying to sell their houses are failing. Nobody's buying them,
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  Speaker 1: not investors and not first home buyers either. Auction clearance
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  Speaker 1: rates from the weekend show the trend is getting worse,
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  Speaker 1: with well over half of all the auctions in all
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  Speaker 1: states fail to deliver a sale.
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  Speaker 10: I think, obviously prices are coming off, that's going to
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  Speaker 10: give people an opportunity to buy property at lower prices,
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  Speaker 10: but doesn't. No one seems to be turning on to
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  Speaker 10: these options at the moment. The clearing trades are absolutely terrible,
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  Speaker 10: but borrowing capacities have obviously come off significantly.
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  Speaker 1: Another interest rate rise or to might not be too
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  Speaker 1: far off, and certainly no rate relief is expected until
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  Speaker 1: next year at the earliest. So the expectation is the
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  Speaker 1: situation will get a lot worse before it improves.
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  Speaker 8: The earlier three rate hikes that we've had, so another
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  Speaker 8: aspect that's weighing on people sentiment. And finally, the budget
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  Speaker 8: and some of the tax changes in that really has
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  Speaker 8: affected people particularly involved in the housing market, in those
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  Speaker 8: investors in particular.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what the people who understand economics and the
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  Speaker 1: real estate market have got to say, which just confirms
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  Speaker 1: the view that the Prime Minister and his Treasurer Jim
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  Speaker 1: Chalmers don't understand any of this. They've meddled with the
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  Speaker 1: market in a way that Labour tried before under Paul
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  Speaker 1: Keating in the nineteen eighties when he was Treasurer that
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  Speaker 1: ended in tears. It went so badly that Labor was
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  Speaker 1: forced to reverse those changes. Negative gearing and capital gains
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  Speaker 1: discounts stayed in place for another forty years until Labor
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  Speaker 1: decided to meddle again. Those who don't learn from history
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  Speaker 1: are indeed destined to repeat it. As you know, Australia
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  Speaker 1: was bundled out of the World Cup by Egypt in
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  Speaker 1: a pretty ordinary penalty shootout performance in Texas on Saturday morning,
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  Speaker 1: our time. But what might have surprised many people was
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  Speaker 1: how the Egyptian celebrations turned into a celebration for the
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  Speaker 1: non existent country of Palestine, complete with the Palestinian flag.
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  Speaker 1: All this was led by no less than the Egyptian
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  Speaker 1: National coachmshad one of.
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  Speaker 3: Bad Not only.
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  Speaker 1: Did Egypt share the glory with the people of the
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  Speaker 1: Palestinian territories in Gaza and the West Bank, but in
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  Speaker 1: those places the locals celebrated the Egyptian victory as if it.
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  Speaker 3: Were their own, and good on them.
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  Speaker 1: There's a shared heritage, there shared interests, and these people,
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  Speaker 1: Egyptians and Palestinians were united in sport. But all this
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  Speaker 1: is relevant to the political and foreign policy debates about
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East that have dominated.
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  Speaker 3: The past few years.
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  Speaker 1: Why should anyone be surprised about the shared interests of
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  Speaker 1: Palestinians and Egyptians. I mean, the famous and influential leader
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  Speaker 1: of the Palestinian Liberation movement and the founder of the
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  Speaker 1: Fatah Palestinian guerrilla group, the late Yasa Arafat, was indeed
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  Speaker 1: born and raised in Cairo, Egypt. Egypt, of course, controlled
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  Speaker 1: Gaza for twenty years until nineteen sixty seven, and Gaza
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  Speaker 1: still shares a border with Egypt. The people who now
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  Speaker 1: call themselves Palestinian and who agitate for a separate country
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  Speaker 1: called Palestine, the Arabs of that part of the World War.
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  Speaker 1: They were once considered Egyptian or Jordanian. They were citizens
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  Speaker 1: of other nations or subjects of other powers, such as
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  Speaker 1: the Ottoman and then British empires. And it begs the question,
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  Speaker 1: as so many criticize Israel, what has Egypt done for
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  Speaker 1: its brothers and sisters in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: What has Jordan done? Did they open their borders?
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  Speaker 1: No, the Egyptian border with Gaza remains one of the
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  Speaker 1: most heavily fortified borders in the world. Gazans are not
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  Speaker 1: allowed to migrate into Egypt. Egypt agitates diplomatic for the
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  Speaker 1: Palestinian diplomatically for the Palestinian people, but it doesn't let
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  Speaker 1: them in as migrants. This is of a piece with
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  Speaker 1: the other Arab nations in the region, Jordan included. They
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  Speaker 1: insist that the future of the Palestinian people is Israel's
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  Speaker 1: responsibility alone, when in fact it's one the region should
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  Speaker 1: be sharing. Still one other point on the soccer. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to that soccer and hats off to the Egyptian.
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  Speaker 3: Star Mo Sallah who delayed.
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  Speaker 1: His celebrations immediately after the game to congratulate and commiserate
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  Speaker 1: with the Australians. That was a real show of sportsmanship. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: all class there from the Egy start. Now back to
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  Speaker 1: the top story of the day, and after two days
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  Speaker 1: of backlash an think the Albani Is, he has apologized
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  Speaker 1: over those Kylie Minogue comments. The PM's office issued a
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  Speaker 1: statement saying he apologized unequivocally for the comments.
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  Speaker 3: That's all it said.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a reaction from the Women's Forum Australia CEO
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Wong.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, Chris, it was a one liner from
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  Speaker 2: his office. It wasn't exactly a heartfelt apology from the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister himself, and I think, given how inappropriate his
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  Speaker 2: comments were, I think a personal apology might have been
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  Speaker 2: a bit more appropriate. I mean, we have a real
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  Speaker 2: issue with the objectification and degradation of women and girls
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  Speaker 2: in this country. We've seen it in school, we've seen
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  Speaker 2: it with issues of online porn, etc. And so to
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  Speaker 2: have these kinds of comments from the Prime Minister reducing
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  Speaker 2: women to sexual objects, I think is incredibly damaging. And
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  Speaker 2: I think a a fuller apology explaining why his comments
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  Speaker 2: are so inappropriate would have been better.
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  Speaker 1: What if people were to say this was a lighthearted
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  Speaker 1: remark in a light hearted interview and not too much
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  Speaker 1: of a fuss should be made about it.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think it's not appropriate for the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a question that you never have been
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  Speaker 2: asked of him, and that he should certainly never have
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  Speaker 2: responded to. And again I don't think that the sexual
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  Speaker 2: objectification of women is something that should be made into entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, no matter how flippant let's asked, no matter
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  Speaker 2: what kind of circumstances you are, you're on a podcast,
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be friendly banter or whatever. What does
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  Speaker 2: it say to women and girls when some of the
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  Speaker 2: most talented women in our country, like Kylie Minogue are
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  Speaker 2: still judged by how sexually appealing they are. Two powerful men.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's inappropriate, especially for the Prime minister
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  Speaker 2: and for any man to be.
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  Speaker 1: Honest, Yeah, I agree, pretty surprising stuff for anybody to
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  Speaker 1: float in a public forum, let alone the.
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  Speaker 3: Prime minister of the country. But he didn't leave it
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  Speaker 3: just there.
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  Speaker 1: He actually discussed his own sex life and that of
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  Speaker 1: his partners.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously. Have a look six months in.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely still bonk and light rabbits.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know when we have time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. That's what happens when you get married.
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  Speaker 4: You have to schedule it, don't you.
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  Speaker 14: After the footy after the forties, always a good afrodisiac
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  Speaker 14: at south win Well, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of cringeworthy, isn't it, Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: Now, most people in long term relationships don't discuss their
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  Speaker 1: sex lives publicly, I think primarily because it's no one
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  Speaker 1: else's business, but also it's kind of disrespectful to your partner,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought so, Chris. I mean, I feel
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  Speaker 2: incredibly sorry for Jody, and I just think that this
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  Speaker 2: kind of conversation in the public sphere, especially from our
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  Speaker 2: nation's leader, is just it's just an appropriate, it's gross,
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  Speaker 2: it's tacky, it's cringe worthy. It doesn't belong I mean Australian.
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  Speaker 2: She has never been subjected to that kind of conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Quite frankly, one of the.
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  Speaker 1: Things I've highlighted when it comes to this episode is
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  Speaker 1: the hypocrisy involved, because Labor and a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: on the green left of politics in the media as well,
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  Speaker 1: have been very quick to Chris misogyny and worst against
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  Speaker 1: coalition MP's, most notably with Tony, but even when he
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  Speaker 1: just winked during a radio interview. Yet they seem to
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  Speaker 1: have gone very quiet on the Prime Minister. Listen to
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  Speaker 1: Tanya Plipasek here seemingly defending Anthony Albanezi.
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  Speaker 7: Well, if what the Prime Minister is saying is that
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  Speaker 7: he's a fan of Kylie Minogue. I guess that puts
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  Speaker 7: him in a truly minions at other Australians, including me,
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  Speaker 7: Including me, I'm a big fan of Kylie's as well.
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  Speaker 13: Would you play the shagg Mary date game kind of podcast?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Now, no one's asked me that question anytime recently.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you that, Okay, what's happened to the feminists,
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  Speaker 1: the strong feminists of the Labor Party, Rachel.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that's a response from Tanya. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: clearly the question wasn't are these talented women? And that's
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  Speaker 2: what Albanese should have said, they're very talented and moved on.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't the question he was asked. I would say
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  Speaker 2: that she would know that by now, and so's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of belittle what has happened. I think, as you say,
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  Speaker 2: is incredibly hypocritical, huge double standard. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: the government that's supposedly champions women. You've got acting Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Richard Miles also saying, oh, you know, well, this
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  Speaker 2: is the first government that's had equal representation in the
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  Speaker 2: Senate for men and women. Well, I'm sorry, but that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter so much when you are really ready to
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  Speaker 2: publicly disrespect women on TV. Online, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: you know, Albinizie himself just last month was calling out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, saying that no matter what side of politics
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  Speaker 2: you want, it's never okay to belittle, demean or objectify
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  Speaker 2: a woman in relation to the justinta Alan ditch the
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  Speaker 2: w billboard campaign, and so you know he's ready to
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  Speaker 2: call out that kind of misslogion and sexism when it's
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  Speaker 2: appropriate for him, when it suits him. Same with his government,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not ready to do it when it's one
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  Speaker 2: of their own.
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  Speaker 1: Spot on, Rachel, the hypocrisy is manifest, isn't it. Thanks
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: so much for joining us, Thanks Chris, Rachel Wong. There,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: let's go to Victoria now catch up live with shadow
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Energy Minister.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Dan t and Dan, thanks for joining us. Why don't
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: we conduct a little experiment here.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: What don't you share with the nation some sort of
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: disrespectful comment about a famous woman and see whether labor
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: actually attacks you.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Well, we know they would, Chris. They want me to resign,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: and they'd try and hound me out of my job.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what, I've got two beautiful daughters,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: and they would murder me if I said anything along
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: those lines, let alone, if I started talking about my
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: sex life and I want to respect them and I
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: always will want to respect them. And what I want
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: to see from the Prime Minister is for him to
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: man up and make that apology in front of a camera,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: looking the people in the eye.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That's what he should do.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: And this idea that he just issues a statement and
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: that's the end of it is a nonsense. He should
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: look the Australian people in the eye and apologize down
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: the camera for what he has said. And until he
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: does that, he deserves to be.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Hounded on it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, spot on, that's a pretty spineless way to deal
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: with it. Let's get to more significant issues in the region.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: The Prime ministers in Fiji. Of course, this when China
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: actually launches a test firing of a long range missile
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in the South Pacific. Do you fear that this is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: a deliberate ploy by China to intimidate the region just
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: when Fiji was signing up to a defense deal with Australia.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Well, hard to tell, and we'll have to wait and see.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Obviously there will be comments issued, but also what we
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: need to hear is some pretty strong comment on behalf
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: of the Pacific from the Australian government and they should
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: be the ones who are coming forward and telling us
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: whether they think that is what's happened, because what we
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: want to us all see is a peaceful Pacific and
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: we don't want to see this type of testing taking place.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: And once again, will we hear strongly from Richard Marles
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: or not.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Time will tell, obviously.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: But they would be able to give us a fairly
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: good understanding of what's occurred here because they'll have access
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: to the intelligence and access to what has happened, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: so they should come clean and provide us with clear
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: guidance as to what the motives are and whether it
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: was time to send that message to the Australian Prime
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Minister when he was signing that treaty.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And if it is, that's quite alarming.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It would certainly seem that way, because not only is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the timing absolutely in sync with what was happening in Fiji.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: But China announced this.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: China publicly announced this before it even happened. Penny Wang
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: is in Fiji with the Prime Minister.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Here's what she had to say.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Australia has been clear with China that we regard this
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: as destabilizing to the Region Australia has been clear that
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: these proposal, this proposed test is in the context of
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: the rapid military built up by China which is lacking
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: in the transparency and reassurance as to intent that the
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: region expects.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Penny Wong obviously just before the tests
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: actually happened. We understand the test has happened. That's a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: pretty bland statement that's sort of written by defact. To
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: believe me, I've seen those talking points as you have
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: in your time down as well. It's a very very
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: bland that's the minimum you would expect. I think your
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: point here is that we need to sit here the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister saying directly that this is reckless and irresponsible
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: behavior by China.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Absolutely we do, and you know he's over there in
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: the Pacific. They'll be looking to him for leadership and
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: now we've got to see whether he wants to.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Provide it or not.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: And you know he will know exactly what has occurred
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: here and if it is a message being sent by
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: the Chinese Communist Party to us that this type of
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: security arrangement, which is all about a peaceful Pacific, is
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: going to get this type of reaction, then we need
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: to hear from the Prime Minister.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Just quickly, Danteen on your portfolio area energy, which we
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: speak about a lot new research circulated today detailing the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: hard numbers about how electricity prices.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Have gone up under the Labor government.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Remember Albanizi and Chris Bowen promised power prices will go
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: down by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: They've gone up by more than one thousand dollars a year.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: It's extraordinary, it is extraordinary.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: The total figure twenty three billion dollars nationwide is how
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: much they've gone up by and that's over one thousand
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: dollars for most average households. And this is when they
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: were promised to go down by two hundred and seventy
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: five dollars. And Chris Bowen remains as hapless as ever
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: about trying to address this and fix this, and he
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: is blindly still pursuing his renewables only approach.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: It's a disgrace.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: We've seen the number of people hit with energy poverty
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: increase now to be over two hundred and fifty thousand households,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: and they just do not seem to care that this
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: number continues to grow under their policies.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a whemmy that is to the economy. Thanks
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: for joining us down Tea and Dante, and they're joining
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: us live from Western Victoria.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to a break. On the other side.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about another alleged antisemitic attack against
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Sydney's Jewish community. I'm going to speak to the rabbi
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: who heads up the community that was targeted on the weekend.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: We saw another allegedly anti Semitic incident in Sydney over
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the weekend.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Here's some coverage from nine News.
• 26:12
  Speaker 15: Cornered in the middle of King's Cross, police around two
• 26:15
  Speaker 15: men at a busy intersection. After placing them under arrest,
• 26:19
  Speaker 15: one officer seizes what appears to be a gun. Police
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: will allege the two French nationals they have in handcuffs
• 26:27
  Speaker 15: pointed this imitation pistol at security guards keeping watch outside
• 26:31
  Speaker 15: at Double Based Synagogue. Rabbi Yankee Berger was conducting ashabat service.
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: Blue car drove bi and slowed down a bit, pointed
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: a gun at the security and just jovine.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Two French nationals arrested and charged.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio now is Rabbi Yankee
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: from the Hubbad Double Bay. Good to speak to you,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Rabbiga in shocking circumstances. Tell us about how this unfolded
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: for the congregation inside. Presumably you didn't know much about
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: what was going on because this was noticed by the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: security outside.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had no idea.
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: We were inside praying. We finished our prayers. There's a
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: little gap between the end of the prayers and the
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: social part known as the Kiddish, and that's what it happened.
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: And I left the synagogue at one fifteen pm and
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: I saw there was some police outside. I asked, I said,
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: what's going on, and they said it's okay, everything's under control.
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: So I went home and at about five point forty
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: five pm, when our Sabbath is over, I turned on
• 27:29
  Speaker 12: my phone. Didn't have my phone for twenty five hours,
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: of course, and then I see about the thirty five messages.
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: Got scared. I call the security and they briefed me,
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: and then the police called me and briefed me. Only
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: then did I understand what happened.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So there was no direct fear or intimidation of the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: group at the time, the congregation at the time. But
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a Sydney Jewish community that has been
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: through all sorts of attacks and vandalism over more than
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: two years now and horrifically has had to deal with
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: fifteen people being murdered last December.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You would have had people deeply touched.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: By that experience in your synagogue while someone was outside
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: allegedly waving a pistol at the synagogue.
• 28:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah, like retroactively later, when we heard the we heard
• 28:12
  Speaker 12: what happened, we were very, very concerned, but concerned, but
• 28:19
  Speaker 12: we make a point of not being intimidated because that's
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: what they want. They want to intimidate us. It's so
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: important for us not to fear, not to be intimidated,
• 28:28
  Speaker 12: and that's really important.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But while these people were allegedly waving guns or imitation
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: pistols at the synagogue, inside worshiping were people who had
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: survived the Bondai massacre.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Were they not correct?
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: Yankee super he was one of the victims of December fourteenth.
• 28:48
  Speaker 12: He was shot and he still has a lot of
• 28:50
  Speaker 12: shrapnel in his lungs. He was in the hospital for weeks,
• 28:53
  Speaker 12: went through underwent many surgeries. So he was in the synagogue.
• 28:56
  Speaker 12: He was in the synagogue.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's quick what worked by the police to get
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: these two alleged defenders and to get them off the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: streets and charge them.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: So that's very reassuring, but it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Troubles me greatly that we've got this sort of thing
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: happening still in the community when there's so much awareness
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: of what's going on. I just want you to share
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: with a lot of our viewers around the country might
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: not be aware of this because you have synagogues throughout
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the area, you have schools, you have Jewish childcare centers,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and you have guards outside them. You always have to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: have guards outside them, and most of them even now
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: have cement bollards to prevent cars driving up and attacking people.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Well, what's it like for your community.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: To go about their daily business to school, to worship
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and always having to be protecting themselves against terrorist attacks.
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: It's difficult. It's difficult, and it's extra difficult because we
• 29:47
  Speaker 12: live here in Australia. This is the best country in
• 29:50
  Speaker 12: the world. I'm originally from Canada, I told you that earlier,
• 29:54
  Speaker 12: but I live here for thirty years and Australia's that
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: type a place where as long as you're not bothering
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: the next person and Australia will give you a fair
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: goal and you'll you'll live at nights, peaceful, enjoyable, beautiful
• 30:06
  Speaker 12: life here.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: People sometimes ask me why I'm so agitated about this,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Why I focus.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: On this issue so much.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine if in this country, if people who
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: went to the local Presbyterian church, the local Uniting church
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: or Catholic church, and they had to protect themselves, they
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: had to have armed guards, they have to have billiards
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in cases a vehicle attackers. It's just an intolerable way
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: for a community to have to live, isn't it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 12: It's difficult, It's very difficult. But we can't we can't
• 30:34
  Speaker 12: think that way. We can't think to ourselves how intolerable
• 30:38
  Speaker 12: it is.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: We have to you have to protect yourself, you have
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to protect us for the.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Rest of us to say this is intolerable. We have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to stand about this hatred absolutely.
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: Look the way I see it is I look at
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: it like the bully in the schoolyard, and there are
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: three actors here. There's the bully, there's the authority, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: then actually therefore the bully the authority, and then they're
• 30:59
  Speaker 12: the those those who are onlooking. And then there's the victim.
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: So everyone has a job. The bully doesn't have a job,
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: the victim has a job, and not to feel like
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: a victim. The authorities have a job to takeen the rules.
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: The onlookers have a job to make sure that this
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: doesn't happen because the bully thrives on that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I applaud you and so many people for
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: not playing the victim when you have to put up
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: with this sort of thing. But too many people standing
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: on doing nothing. It would be my comment, and let's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: hope we can get more to support.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing your experience, right, thank you, Yankee Dan.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Fancy having to put up with that. It's just outrageous.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Now we're going to get to a break.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: On the other side, we're going to check in on
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: what's happening in England after they beat Mexico in Mexico,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: would you believe we'll.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Catch up with Sophiellsworth. Thank you.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So let's go to the wonderful sun Raisier District of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Victoria and catch up with the Shadow Minister for Regional
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Health and Webster.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And thanks for joining us. I want to get you
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: on a related issue.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Actually we've just been talking about rampant anti semitism, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: obviously your portfolio relates to the health sector. You're pretty
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: concerned about what we've learned when it comes to alleged
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: anti semitism in hospitals in the medical profession.
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: Absolutely, Chris. Last week there was an article in The
• 32:23
  Speaker 16: Australian where our Jewish patients were telling their stories of
• 32:28
  Speaker 16: what they had been experiencing in hospitals and by some
• 32:32
  Speaker 16: health professionals. I was so dismayed by what I read,
• 32:38
  Speaker 16: and also Jewish health professionals who are experiencing the kind
• 32:42
  Speaker 16: of anti Semitism that has been going on for two
• 32:44
  Speaker 16: and a half years, blatantly under the Prime Minister's watch.
• 32:49
  Speaker 16: So I wrote to Oprah and ask them what is
• 32:55
  Speaker 16: going on and what are they doing about this behavior?
• 32:59
  Speaker 16: What actions are they're taking and I asked them six questions.
• 33:03
  Speaker 16: They've written back to me, which is pretty extraordinary immediately,
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: but I'm going to meet with them to articulate again
• 33:11
  Speaker 16: this is completely unaccepted acceptable.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what.
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: Your religion is, what your race is, who you are,
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: you should be able to go to hospital, see a
• 33:20
  Speaker 16: health professional and feel like you are going to get
• 33:22
  Speaker 16: the best care compassionate care, not political or religious. Awful, really,
• 33:30
  Speaker 16: I mean, if the accounts are accurate and true, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 16: I've got no reason to debate them, then it's terrorism
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: in our hospitals. I mean, it's just horrendous.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've got to have the medical authorities and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: doing everything they can to stamp it out. You're absolutely right,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and any thought, any hint of discrimination in the health
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: system is just anathema to what we should be doing.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I had a knee replacement recently and did my rehab. Actually,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the Jewish hospital and the other side of that coin
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is just like the school on the Synagogue's heavy security
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: at the hospitals. It's tragic by place of healing and care,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but they have to have the heavy security because they
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: fear these sorts of attacks.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Look, let me get your thoughts on this.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I need to as a coalition woman, I've got to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on Anthony Alberanezi and his Kylie Minogue comments.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Demeaning I would have thought diminishing for the office of
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Prime minister.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But should we all move on?
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: No, I don't think so. I think the Prime Minister
• 34:31
  Speaker 16: holds the highest office in our land. He came into parliament.
• 34:36
  Speaker 16: Let's not talk about all the lies that he did
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: to get there. But he came into parliament promising integrity
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: and a kind of gentler parliament. He's got fifty percent
• 34:47
  Speaker 16: of his Lower House are women. I mean, honestly, what
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: are they thinking about his behavior? His behavior towards his wife,
• 34:57
  Speaker 16: his behavior towards and his deemed star in Australia. It's unacceptable,
• 35:05
  Speaker 16: it's embarrassing, it was kitsch, it was horrendous and he
• 35:09
  Speaker 16: oughtady be called out for it. And I'm sorry getting
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: you press people, even if you are in Fiji at
• 35:15
  Speaker 16: the moment, to write a little oh you know, I'm
• 35:17
  Speaker 16: sorry doesn't cut it. I agree with Dan Tyn's comment earlier.
• 35:21
  Speaker 16: He needs to front a camera and apologize to every
• 35:24
  Speaker 16: woman in Australia that he thinks that kind of language
• 35:29
  Speaker 16: and that kind of attitude is okay.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: What does this say about the so called strong feminists
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: of the Labor Party. Where's Tanya Plibask calling him out?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Where's the Minister for Women Katie Gallagher? We know they
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: would be screaming blue murder if a coalition MP mail
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: was stupid enough to say something like this.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Where are they now?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: They're all completely condemned by their own silence.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting.
• 35:55
  Speaker 16: I'm waiting to hear what they have to say, because
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: I've heard nothing thing that says that they would condemn
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: that behavior. And you are absolutely right, Chris. They would
• 36:06
  Speaker 16: pin Angus Taylor to a wall. They would pin anybody
• 36:10
  Speaker 16: on our side of politics to a wall and make
• 36:14
  Speaker 16: them beg for mercy and to apologize to the Australian women.
• 36:20
  Speaker 16: And here they're dead silent as just appalling. Two standards hypocrisy,
• 36:25
  Speaker 16: rit large one more time spot on.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us and I appreciate it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: And Webster their live from Mildura in northwestern Victoria. There,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: sunrais your district that we want to.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Stick with politics. But go to the UK. I'll catch
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: up with Sophie Osworth in just a moment.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But of course, as they're waiting their new prime minister,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the outgoing, they're still current but soon to be gone.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: UK Prime Minister Kiss Starmer has.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Given an interview to the BBC and wax Lyrical about
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: his place in the world.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Have a listen.
• 36:57
  Speaker 17: It was tough. I'm not going to pretend I've really
• 37:00
  Speaker 17: really tough as I grappled with what was the best
• 37:03
  Speaker 17: thing to do for me, for the country, for the government.
• 37:07
  Speaker 17: It became an intensely personal decision. When Vick and I
• 37:11
  Speaker 17: were away with the kids, we went to Checkers and
• 37:14
  Speaker 17: just spent two days together as a family, and that's
• 37:17
  Speaker 17: when I came to my final decision.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: That's how we did it. Wanded up to Checkers. Let's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: cross to the UK now and catch up with News
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Corp euro correspondent Sky News contributor Sophie Els with my god,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: this thing's dragging on, isn't it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: But it's good to hear from the man himself.
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: It is indeed, Chris. Look, people just want him gone.
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: It's like the long goodbye. He was considering his position,
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: He went to Checkers to consider his position, then he
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: gave that speech out the front of Downing Street. It
• 37:49
  Speaker 11: just goes on and on and on. Andy Burnham is
• 37:53
  Speaker 11: carrying on like he already is Prime Minister Chris. We
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: expect he will be appointed Prime Minister in the next
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: week or so and finally the country can move on.
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: And there's been a lot of criticism the Secrestarmer has
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: been one of the worst prime ministers this country.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: It has ever seen.
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: So I think the country, the voters, the people here
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: in the UK are looking for, hopefully a fresh start
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: and a renewal in what has been a pretty torrid
• 38:19
  Speaker 11: two years of labor and government here.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, we'll see what happens in the next week
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: or two when we get that new Prime minister this morning,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: but I dare say, Sophie, but in the last forty
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: eight hours most problems wouldn't have been too fussed about politics.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Most of them were looking for leadership in Mexico City
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and they certainly got it this morning our time.
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: They absolutely did. Chris, there'll be a lot of sore
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: heads here in the UK today. Normally they're complaining here
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: about how hot it is. I think today they'll be
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: complaining about how sore their heads are with that win
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: over Mexico and now they're through to the quarterfinals in
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: the World Cup. They face Normal on Saturday.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Remembering Chris, the game.
• 39:02
  Speaker 11: Kicked off here London time at one am and pubs
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: are allowed to open till five am in this extraordinary
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: move by the Prime Minister to make this happen. But
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: the country was very nervous about going into this game.
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: They've come out on top. They're still in the race
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: for the chocolates. But I suspect Saturday is going to
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: be enormous here in the UK.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure is. Let's have a listen to some of
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the celebrations.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they reckon, they're going to bring it home and
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: they're getting closer.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Everything going to plan so far.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: So if I'm looking at the people walking around the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: streets behind you, I'm trying to see whether any of
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: them look like they've been up all night watching the soccer.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: But I suppose those who are the real fans are
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: probably still in better sleep.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: They probably are, Chris.
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: But interestingly, the papers here are saying that there'll be enormous,
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: an enormous amount of sickies today. There could be half
• 40:08
  Speaker 11: a million people calling in sick to their boss. They've
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: asked employers to go easy on their staff, employees to
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: even try and swap their shifts with their colleagues. This
• 40:20
  Speaker 11: is a big moment for the country. They're really hoping
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: they can go the next step.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Chris.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: But the fever.
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: Here among the World Cup fans is enormous. Not forgetting
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: there's so much sport on here at the moment. We
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: also have Wimbledon. I was out there yesterday, so it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: a great time to be here in London at the moment.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Well you enjoy wimbled and then keep enjoying London.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Sophie, Sophie Ilsworthy.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: You know, look, I find it hard to barrack for
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the Poms and anything, but it'd be kind of fun
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to see them, wouldn't it they claim to didn't they
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: invent this game or something?
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Be kind of fun to see them win. See how
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: mad the Poms go? England will go nunce we better
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: go to a break.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I'll catch up with Jemma and Caroline as ever on
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a Monday, will see who they fancy.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: For the world Cape. Don't go away.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Let's get into our Monday panel with Gematon Uni from
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: GT Communications all your communications needs and Carolina that I've
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: never given you a plug before and Caroline are also
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: from Perth joining us there.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Hey Caroline, let's start with you.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: The housing downturn, prices down more than half, the auctions
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: are not selling.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Are we being alarmist or is this a bit of
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: a worry.
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: Well, it's one of those things. I actually think we're
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: going to have to wait and see a little bit.
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, in Western Australia we don't have a huge
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: amount of auctions the same way you do in the
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: East Coast, So I think it's definitely more instructive for
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: the East Coast, more so necessarily than the way market.
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: But you know, Chris, there's always been this very interesting
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: narrative that you know, first home buy as, you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: they go to auctions and they can't win at auctions
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: because they're being outbid by investors. Well then why are
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: clearance rates falling off a cliff? Why aren't first home
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: buyers just buying those houses instead of investors. So there's
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: something going on a bit deeper there that, you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: I think we'll take a little while to come out
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: in the wash. Look, yes, prices have been very, very elevated,
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: but you know, Chris, the people I really feel for
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: here are particularly those first home buyers who bought at
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: the top of the market and will be staring down
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: the barrel of negative equity. I don't think the banks
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: will do anything too stupid here. I think they've learned
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: their lesson from the GFC, but it would be very
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: stressful for those households.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a worry, Jim.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: At the obvious point here, right, is what the government's doing.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Now that we know the government's played a role in
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: pushing inflation up, we'll spending in.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: The rest of it. But if you really wanted to
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: impose new.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Taxes and new restrictions on real estate investors, the last
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: time you do it is just when rates are going
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: up and you're looking to pressure pressure the industry.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm I said double wham before them.
• 43:10
  Speaker 13: Now, this is just the reflection of a treasurer with
• 43:13
  Speaker 13: no economic experience. And that's not a personal jibe. It
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: is just that fact he has no economic experience. He
• 43:23
  Speaker 13: has an arts degree, he has a PhD in Paul
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: Keating the Brawler, I think it's called. And I labor
• 43:30
  Speaker 13: this point because it speaks to the problem that we're in.
• 43:33
  Speaker 13: We have people making fiscal decisions based on ideology, not
• 43:37
  Speaker 13: an experience. And I have never I've been around Chris,
• 43:42
  Speaker 13: I'm old these days, and I've never seen a budget
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: with the stench of death on it the way this
• 43:47
  Speaker 13: one has. I mean, what are we two months now
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: in counting and it is still a problem for this
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: government and we've got it. The RBA, who has said
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: your problem is your spending, and they are doing everything
• 43:58
  Speaker 13: they can. They are turning themselves in to pretzels because
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: they are allergic to accountability. At the end of the day,
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: when this conger line of manure continues to land on
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: the Australian electorate, who do they think they're going to blame.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I've never seen before. I've seen
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: some budgets that have had political problems like this one.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think of the initial Hockey Avid Hockey, they had
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: political problems. But this one has all those political problems,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: all the broken promises and the rest of it, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it's delivering economic problems already.
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: And it seems like every time they turn around, someone said, hey,
• 44:32
  Speaker 13: what about the widow's tax And they go, oh, yes,
• 44:34
  Speaker 13: didn't think about that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Will fix it, we'll fix it later.
• 44:36
  Speaker 13: They still don't know what they're doing.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: Oh what about this? And what about that?
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: And the Prime Minister cannot explain, nor can mister Chalmers,
• 44:43
  Speaker 13: how taxing a Pokemon card or taxing an investment on
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: an ef tire a bit of crypto is going to
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: help a young person get into a house. It is
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: a scandal.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: It's just in name. Now let's go speaking of in aame.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Let me hear your thoughts first, Caroline on the Prime
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Minister and I hate to use this word this hour
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: of the day, who the Prime Minister says he would
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like to shag your view on this?
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: This has been really unedifying, Chris It And look, I
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: can take a joke. I'm not a wowser, but there
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: are but there are certain there's a certain limit to
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: where you can be informal and relatable and have a
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: bit of fun and I do like to see that
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: genuinely out of our politicians. And then there's a point
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: where you have to preserve the dignity of the office
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: that you hold. And what is very interesting here is
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: obviously there's now been an apology, but it's the total
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: lack of judgment on something that really should have been
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: quite simple and something he should have just continued to
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: push back on and have not answered the question. And
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: on another note, frankly, if I was his wife, he'd
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: be in the doghouse and he would be staying there
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: for some time because the fact that you can be
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: married to someone for something as short as six months
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: and you're just out having this flippant conversation about other
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: people who you may or may not shag. I just
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: think is pretty ghosts.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It's pretty embarrassing. I'll get your thoughts in a moment, Jemmy,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: But first I just want to show a little bit
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: more of this podcast because it goes to my other point.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: And I agree with everything you said, Caro, but the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: other point is about the dumbing down of politics. Why
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: do we hear this sort of nonsense from a prime
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: minister who wouldn't even front up here and answer some
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: serious questions.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Instead he does this sort of stuff.
• 46:35
  Speaker 14: The Japanese prime minister brought a melon?
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: How did he get that through customs?
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: She at a royal melon?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: She smuggled.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: It was a she shed, she smuggle it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I got a couple of melons she
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: brought too. She brought too as you do.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: She just came in looking like Pamela Rander.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: She brought too, Yes, and they're beautiful. What's she doing?
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Jim is in the lodge.
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: I actually didn't see that. I'm sorry if I'm a
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: bit stunned. I didn't see that excer until right now.
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: And he's just making boob jokes like that.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Is.
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: I've never seen a more insecure, embarrassing performance from an
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: alleged leader who in his team. Let's put it this away.
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: Even if someone in his team came to him with
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: this idea, he should have had the wherewithal to go.
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: Not doing a bad idea, not appropriate all of those reasons.
• 47:30
  Speaker 13: And now we see him playing a game of married
• 47:33
  Speaker 13: bonk or kill or whatever, and then he's talking about
• 47:36
  Speaker 13: melons and it's like a fourteen year old boy trying
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: to impress his mates at pe after school. This bloke, no,
• 47:45
  Speaker 13: that's exactly what it is, and what it is I
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: call myself a feminist, Chris.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: I don't like those sorts of labels.
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: But as I've gotten older and more elastic in my thinking,
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: I rage about what he did because he sets an example.
• 47:59
  Speaker 13: And this is the party that constantly lectures to us
• 48:02
  Speaker 13: about how they are the moral high ground when it
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: comes to women, when it comes to social issues, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 13: this bloke is a leader, whether he likes it or not.
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: He's not a leader by nature, he's a leader by position,
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: and he has the audacity to set that kind of example.
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: And he only apologizes because of days of sustained outrage
• 48:24
  Speaker 13: by people with a moral compass that he doesn't have.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: It's Trump.
• 48:28
  Speaker 13: It's disgusting, and imagine Trumpian. Let me just also say,
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: imagine if Angus Taylor said that. Imagine if the CEO
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: of any corporate would have a brain that wouldn't do that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: But it is this two speed morality, and I am
• 48:42
  Speaker 13: so sick of it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Just very quickly, I've got to mention the World Cup
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: because I think I think it's kind of trumpy and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: what Albanize has been up to. But what about this
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: about the American The American player against a red card,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: he's out for the next game, and Trump intervenes Carolina.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: This is our ageous.
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: It is outrageous, but at the same time, it's totally
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: on brand. Nothing about this story even remotely surprises me.
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, there's an international sporting event and Trump
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: thought he'd get involved, And like I said, none of
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: this surprises me, and it just adds to the color
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: of the show. And look, you know, FIFA has always
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: been a bit elastic about things, so that also doesn't
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: surprise me.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Well, if Donald Trump is shunky, then FIFA is shonky
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: on steroids.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: So let's see where it all ends up. Thanks for
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: joining us, Gemma and Caroline.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: We better get off the air because coming up next
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: is Jamie Johnson sitting in for Peter Creedlin.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night.