Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #129: Why are all buildings put up by leftist non-profits so UGLY? (Obama Library, Milwaukee Pub Museum, etc). Also: a Waukesha Co judge gives a walk to a repeat drunk driver who while four times over the limit was involved in two hit and runs and struck a pedestrian.

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Mark Belling Podcast #129: Why are all buildings put up by leftist non-profits so UGLY? (Obama Library, Milwaukee Pub Museum, etc). Also: a Waukesha Co judge gives a walk to a repeat drunk driver who while four times over the limit was involved in two hit and runs and struck a pedestrian. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 3: People don't know because it sounds so arrogant. Here's what
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I make observations on things that most people either haven't
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  Speaker 2: picked up on, or they have picked up on it,
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  Speaker 2: think many people have noticed that there is a proliferation
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  Speaker 2: a but ugly buildings going up. You know, architecture's controversial
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  Speaker 2: and cutting edge architecture never looks good when the first
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  Speaker 2: few examples of it come up. The example that everybody
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  Speaker 2: cites is the Bengal butt that BMW put on that
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  Speaker 2: got ridiculed. Chris Mangle was their design guy, and he
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  Speaker 2: decided to put these big rear ends on round off
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  Speaker 2: the BMW's which had been boxing, and everybody hated them,
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  Speaker 2: and the next thing, you know, every automobile in America
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  Speaker 2: is shaped like that. Bengal was fired, was regarded as
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  Speaker 2: an insane, lunatic correct BMW's, and in fact he was
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  Speaker 2: just ahead of his time.
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  Speaker 3: That's an example of it.
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  Speaker 2: So I understand when a new architectural trend comes in
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  Speaker 2: and you see the first few examples that may be jarrig,
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  Speaker 2: especially if it's not an attempt to be like classically beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: I get that.
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  Speaker 2: But even in that context, I'm telling you that some
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  Speaker 2: of this stuff that's going up right now, there's no
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get used to it. Component It's just ugly.
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  Speaker 2: And the most obvious example of this is this erect
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  Speaker 2: you know, wat that Obama has put up in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly think that this is what it's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: look like. He's either giving everybody the finger or he's
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  Speaker 2: just put up a giant phallic symbol the Obama set up.
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  Speaker 2: Notice the word library is not.
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  Speaker 3: In the title.
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  Speaker 2: You know why it's not in the title because there
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  Speaker 2: are no presidential papers in there. This is just Obama,
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  Speaker 2: who can't stand America once again, building a monument for
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  Speaker 2: himself and activism and using it as an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: trash America.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, we're used to that.
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  Speaker 2: So now you would think if you're Obama, now let's
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  Speaker 2: put yourself in Obama's shoes. Think like Obama, which requires
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  Speaker 2: you to immediately develop an extremely high opinion of yourself.
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  Speaker 2: This is why these lefties that gets so upset with Trump. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he's so arrogant. He's just he's narcissistic. My goodness, gracious,
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  Speaker 2: they loved Obama. There is no one who has ever
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  Speaker 2: loved himself more than Barack Obama loves himself. Clearly, he's
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  Speaker 2: number one. He loves himself way more than Michelle loves him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she might be somewhere in the lower fiftieth
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  Speaker 2: percentile on how much. I'm actually wondering if that marriage
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  Speaker 2: will last. What do you think you think it'll last? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a marriage of convenience like the Clintons. I mean, when
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  Speaker 2: if they had to split up, it would be very
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  Speaker 2: hard to you know, she'd be demanding way more of
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  Speaker 2: the money than she would have coming. You just know
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  Speaker 2: that they can't get married. There's a lot I mean divorced.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people can't get divorced. Now I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna get into my sponsorship with you, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to tee this topic up a little bit more. You're Obama,
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  Speaker 2: you think very very highly of yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you.
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  Speaker 2: Therefore put up something beautiful? As an example, I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you an example of an architect. Everything he does is beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Calatrava. Why not hire Kla Trava and have
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  Speaker 2: some soaring brissolets in there, or curves and sexy angles
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  Speaker 2: appealing to the eye. Why take this big giant hunk
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  Speaker 2: of rock, this slab and stick it on the south
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  Speaker 2: side of ugar?
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  Speaker 3: Why? Why? Why? If you're him, why would you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't if you're gonna build a monument, monument for yourself,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you build someone that everyone says is beautiful? And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, if you listen to the critics comment
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  Speaker 2: of this, it's the same thing that critics always do
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  Speaker 2: when they want to impress you with how much greater
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  Speaker 2: tastes they have than the rest of us. For those
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  Speaker 2: of you who know who Pauline Kle is, she's got.
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  Speaker 3: To be dead now.
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  Speaker 2: Movie or your the only movies she liked. For the
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  Speaker 2: movies that the masses didn't like, she just prided herself.
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  Speaker 3: On that, and that was See, you don't like it
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  Speaker 3: because you do not have the incredible elevated t said
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  Speaker 3: I Pauline killed it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the same people that are raving about this.
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  Speaker 2: There's a Frank Gary component to that. He's another architect
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  Speaker 2: who put up. I grew to like some of his
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  Speaker 2: buildings somewhat, but the vast majority of them are not
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  Speaker 2: there for you to.
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  Speaker 3: Say, gee, that looks nice.
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  Speaker 2: We have our own example of a preposterously ugly new
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  Speaker 2: building here in Milwaukee. They got rid of the Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: Public Museum for no good reason at all and built
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  Speaker 2: a smaller museum, took out all the stuff that everybody
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  Speaker 2: liked in the new public Museum, and they built this
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  Speaker 2: new thing, which it looks like two farm silos. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're fatter than normal silos, but it actually looks like
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  Speaker 2: two big giant air conditioner. If you have like some
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  Speaker 2: massive cooling system to cool like an entire complex of buildings,
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  Speaker 2: you need to have these great, big, two huge mechanical events.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the museum looks like. It's really ugly. And
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  Speaker 2: when anybody says it's really ugly, like and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: everybody says it's really ugly, other than the people who
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  Speaker 2: just want to act like they have more taste than
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  Speaker 2: the rest of us and pretend that it's not a
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  Speaker 2: good Oh no, no, no, this is cutting it. The
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  Speaker 2: same thing with the Obama Center. I mean, I'm guessing
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  Speaker 2: most people have seen the Obama Center because it's been
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  Speaker 2: jammed on his throat since it opened the last few days.
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  Speaker 3: But everybody knows what I'm talking about, don't they.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now here's my observation.
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  Speaker 3: We've had.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're in a building boom in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: We had a big residential housing boom. It stopped with COVID.
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  Speaker 2: Prior to that, there was a massive office construction boom.
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  Speaker 2: Look for example, at the Milwaukee Ski Well, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a skyline a few years ago. And we've had
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  Speaker 2: one high rise go up after another after another after another.
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  Speaker 2: In the communities that have had growing urbanized suburbs, like
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  Speaker 2: say Chicago, the Schomberg area high rises out there, we've
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  Speaker 2: had buildings going up right and left. There's something that
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  Speaker 2: these really ugly ones, the ones of the style of
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Museum, the ones of the style of the
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  Speaker 2: Obama Center, there's something they have in common. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: here to tell you what it is, so you can
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  Speaker 2: all say, gee, Mark, you're right. They're all put up
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  Speaker 2: by nonprofits. See that's the key.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see anybody building a house like this to
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  Speaker 3: live in.
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  Speaker 2: If somebody's doing a high rise, condo or apartment komba,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm in Miami four months, so you're just
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  Speaker 2: there this weekend. There's high rises out the wazoo in
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  Speaker 2: which they charge millions of people to live in there.
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  Speaker 2: None of them look like this, because who wants to
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  Speaker 2: look in Some live in something that looks like it's
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  Speaker 2: an erect you don't watch sitting in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to live in that. If Obamba decided to
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  Speaker 2: condo this thing out, who would move in there?
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  Speaker 3: Nobody.
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  Speaker 2: See, if you're putting up something and you need to
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  Speaker 2: make money off of it, you're not going to bend
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  Speaker 2: over backwards to make it ugly your own office building.
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  Speaker 2: What big time corporate executive wants to put up an
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  Speaker 2: ugly piece of rock and call it their building. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are some office buildings that I'll admit are pretty generic.
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  Speaker 2: We have a few of them Milwaukee, but most of them.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take, for example, the most beautiful new structure we
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  Speaker 2: have in Milwaukee POSTCLA trauma, the whole Northwestern complex. Northwestern
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  Speaker 2: created the new corporate headquarters and now they're building the
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  Speaker 2: kind of rebuilding the office building behind it, and that's
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  Speaker 2: a big, gleaming building. The Northwestern building is beautiful. Everything
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  Speaker 2: about it is gorgeous. The landscaping, the shape, the curves,
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  Speaker 2: the height, it's stunning. You notice that Northwestern didn't build
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  Speaker 2: one of these bomb shelters that's being put up by
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  Speaker 2: these museums. Now, these are being done by nonprofits. Nonprofits
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  Speaker 2: are controlled by boards of directors, so they can indulge themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to be cutting edge, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be edgy. But they don't have to worry about making
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  Speaker 3: a bus look off of it.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's going to do this with a place that they
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  Speaker 2: have to live in, and nobody's going to do it
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  Speaker 2: with a business in which that's their headquarters. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're a member of a board of directors, sure, and
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  Speaker 2: if you're in Obama, whose entire point in life seems
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  Speaker 2: to be to say bleep you to the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Look at his wife is.
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  Speaker 2: Through a bitter, angrier woman in America than her. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is a woman who woke up in the end
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  Speaker 2: zone and thought she's going a touchdown. She gets scholarships
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  Speaker 2: to go to an Ivy League university, checks out the
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  Speaker 2: fellow African American people there and says, gee, which one
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  Speaker 2: is going to go in the fire this who I
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  Speaker 2: can hitch along for the ride, hitches onto Obama and
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  Speaker 2: hits the lattery.
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  Speaker 3: He makes it.
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  Speaker 2: He becomes the president, she becomes the first lady. They
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  Speaker 2: are a walking tribute to what an open minded society
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  Speaker 2: that we are. A nation that once had slaves now
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  Speaker 2: electing an African American president. And instead of seeing this
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  Speaker 2: is this incredible growth, and instead of her seeing herself
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  Speaker 2: with somebody who lived the ultimate American dream, all she
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  Speaker 2: does is bitch about this country. So anyway, back to
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  Speaker 2: the buildings, it's not like architecture and design that everybody
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  Speaker 2: who went into that field suddenly got to be stupid
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  Speaker 2: or blind. It's that there is a market for This
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  Speaker 2: is very much like what's happened to modern art. And
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  Speaker 2: these aren't new observations. By the way, the best treatment
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  Speaker 2: of all of this stuff is from the late brilliant
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  Speaker 2: Tom Wolf. Greatest American writer. I was gonna say since Hemingway,
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  Speaker 2: but I might say if fitz Gerald. Tom Wolf was
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  Speaker 2: an incredible writer, tremendous observer wrote a couple of great novels,
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  Speaker 2: but his observations about America life. He did one on architecture.
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  Speaker 2: I think I hope I'm not forgetting the title life.
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  Speaker 2: It was forty years ago, from Bajos to our House.
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  Speaker 2: And then he did another one on public on contemporary Art.
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  Speaker 2: I think he called it the Painted Word. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Tom Wolfe was a cynical sort of he had this.
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  Speaker 2: He was one of the rare conservatives who was able
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  Speaker 2: to be accepted.
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  Speaker 3: By the hoity toity elite crowd.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they just couldn't help themselves because he
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  Speaker 2: was so brilliant, kind of like a William F. Buckley,
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  Speaker 2: only an observer of the culture, and he just did
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  Speaker 2: complete tearedowns of the trends that were going on in
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  Speaker 2: the eighties and the nineties with the architecture and also
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  Speaker 2: with much of modern art. Very few people who our
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  Speaker 2: practitioners of modern art are interested in beauty. If Michelangelo
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  Speaker 2: was born now, he wouldn't have amounted to anything. There
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  Speaker 2: just wouldn't have been a market for him. Or Renoir,
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  Speaker 2: Renoir or go God, who wants to see somebody pain flowers? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta make my statement. I gotta have angles and slices.
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  Speaker 3: And I gotta jar you. And again I'll grant you.
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  Speaker 2: Some of this stuff is pretty good, but nobody's trying
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  Speaker 2: to do anything that's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: But when someone, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Back to architecture, does and I'll say the Calatrava. We
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  Speaker 2: lucked into this largely because of the just the Quadrachis
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  Speaker 2: were hell bent on getting Calla Trava to do to
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  Speaker 2: the addition to the Milwaukee Art Museum, and for those
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  Speaker 2: of you not from Milwaukee, the public museum that I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about here in the Art Museum, different institutions, the
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  Speaker 2: art museums, the Institution of the Lake, and they did
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  Speaker 2: the addition there and Calatrava. It was this Spanish guy,
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  Speaker 2: and I was in Barcelona. I saw two of his structures.
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  Speaker 2: He does bridges and he does buildings, and it's flowing,
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  Speaker 2: I guess is the best.
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  Speaker 3: Way to describe it.
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  Speaker 2: People into architecture could use better words to describe his style.
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  Speaker 2: But just visually stunning. You can't stop looking at it.
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  Speaker 2: The buildings somehow seem to move, even though they're station area.
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  Speaker 2: The bridges just seem to have almost a melody to them.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Sounding like a wine critic, now, wine critics always have
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  Speaker 2: to try to come up with words to describe taste
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  Speaker 2: that you see the same thing with cigar reviewers. I mean,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: that's just the hardest thing in the world. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what is even a great cigar? What does it smell like?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It smells like deep smoke, that's all that'sll But it
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: has Aroma's and hints of chocolate in Mahogany shot up.
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  Speaker 2: But they have to come up with something other than
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: just putting the same number on there. Anyway, we were
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  Speaker 2: fortunate enough that the art museum was done addition. The
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  Speaker 2: Calatrava is the addition to the main art museum, and
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  Speaker 2: for that matter, the War Memorial building that's part of
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  Speaker 2: the complex. They were done separately. That's beautiful, also very.
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  Speaker 3: Different, hard rectangular structure, but in.
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  Speaker 2: Its own way, it's beautiful. So you can do it.
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  Speaker 2: But those were people who tried to commission someone who
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  Speaker 2: wanted to create something of beauty, not something that was
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  Speaker 2: just going to glare at you. I mentioned residential buildings.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Okay, I'm down there in Miami. I mean
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  Speaker 2: everything in Miami is to make a statement, and every
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  Speaker 2: building's gotta look great, and they all kind of have
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  Speaker 2: to look Miami. I see almost none of these.
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  Speaker 3: Stupid, ugly, harsh bid There's.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing down there like Obama's stupid thing that he's got
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  Speaker 2: to have color. They make statements one thing's larger, that
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  Speaker 2: this one's larger than life, that one's larger than life.
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  Speaker 2: There's an actual attempt to appeal to people rather than
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  Speaker 2: smack you in the face. It's the ultimate in arrogant elitism.
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  Speaker 2: Now I understand I'm using these two examples in Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: museum and the Obama thing, because they both were examples
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  Speaker 2: of somebody who wanted to make a statement and knew
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  Speaker 2: they could get away with it. Obama simple, of course
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: he can get away with it. He's in Chicago, where
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: he's a saint.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna let him.
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  Speaker 2: There's literally no design Obama could have come up with
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  Speaker 2: that they wouldn't have approved. By the way, the state
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  Speaker 2: of Illinois, which provided some public funding for this, the
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  Speaker 2: tax breaks for the land and so on, there are
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  Speaker 2: some of them griping down there. They thought this was
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  Speaker 2: going to be. This is not a you know, residential
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  Speaker 2: libraries are supposed to be repositories for your presidential papers
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  Speaker 2: and so on, so that in addition to holding meetings, etc.
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  Speaker 2: Historical researchers between now and and through the ages can
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  Speaker 2: go and look at documents and so on. The Reagan
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  Speaker 2: Library in California is a conference center and so on.
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  Speaker 2: But Reagan's personal papers and pictures. I mean, it's a
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: tremendous display. It's almost like the Hall of Fame of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Reagan's presidency that's supposed to be a portion of this.
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  Speaker 2: There are no presidential papers at the Obama Center. It's
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: just a monument for activists to come in and hold
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: conventions about how to stir things up and bring in
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: socialism to America. I suppose Obama could fill it with
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: documents of all of his achievements. But other than Obama Care,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: nobody knows one damn thing that he did. He basically
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: ran around the world and told everybody how rotten the
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: United States was and told us how terrible everything was.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And he created social life medicine that's been a debacle.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Other than that, seriously, what did Obama do? Name other
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: than Obamacare? Name one other thing that happened, for better
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: or worse in his administration. Cash for clunkers another terrible idea.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: There's a reason why automobiles got so unaffordable for lower
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: income people, and that is because Obama smashed up all
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the junkers that were supposed to serve the bottom of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the market for the next twenty years. I clearly digress,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that nobody puts up a house
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that's ugly, but nobody puts out a house that's intentionally ugly.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that no office buildings. You know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: some small firms that are trying to make a statement
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: will do something attention getting, But anybody that needs to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: use their building and have potential resale value in into
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the building is to be a magnet for employees or
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: for that matter, just when you hang around in the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: country club that you can brag about the building that
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: your company puts up looks so dog on beauty. You know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: when they're creating the skyscrapers of New York, thank god
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: they didn't have some of the goops that are putting
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: up buildings now.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Oh go, if you want to find an ugly.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Building in New York, it's a museum built in the
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: last fifteen years. They're all the same thing. Do it
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: with somebody else's money donations, and then pat yourself on
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the back that people like me.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Don't get it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's the same way that they've been in a different
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: sort of fashion. It's a different kind of ugly. We
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: have the most ridiculous, obnoxious piece of public art in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee that you'll find almost anywhere in the United States.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: For those of you who discovered me in the podcast,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I've been on this thing forever and ever and ever,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and I've gotten absolutely nowhere in my attempt to move it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: If you're going down Wisconsin Avenue, you have a debt
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: on view. If you're looking toward the lake of the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Brisolet of the College, it would be the most incredible
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: view you can imagine.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: It's dead on.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Instead blocking the view is this stupid, ridiculous orange piece
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: of crap Sunburst or whatever they call it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: It was like a failed piece of a semi prominent
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: sculptor who knew that he'd never be able to get
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: like a city with actual culture to buy it, so
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: he pummed it off on Milwaukee. The Art Museum at
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the time, this is before the color trava took it
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: out and they put it at the end of Wisconsin Avenue,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: which was harmless enough because Wisconsin avedat kind of dead
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: ended and there's a bluff overlooking the lake. But then
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the calla trava. Think it blocks the view. See you'd think, well,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: let's mute move it. You can't get anybody to move
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: it because that might acknowledge that it's a piece of crap.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I've urged them to auction it off. You know, the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: art museum, like every other museum, is always looking for money.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Right, if you think.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: It's so wonderful, put this thing on the open market
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and collectors will pay a fortune for it. They'll never
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: do it because they what they'll get for it is
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: scrap the same amount that's some junkyard dealer, but you'll
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: have to pull out a bigger wide than normal. That's
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: all that's It's so ugly. It's so stupid to me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: It's just an orange asterisk. It's got like the the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: X marks in there and then a circle thing in
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the middle. And it isn't beautiful, it's not etgy. It's
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: garish without it's garish without being bright. It's just dumb.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And the reason that we still have it in Milwaukee
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: is because our elitists are just so happy that somebody
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of prominence did something here that we're not going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: criticize it. You compare this stupid before Chicago lost its
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: mind and went to hell. The public art there just
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a second to no one in the world. The Picasso
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: is incredible, the Moreau is incredible. All the big building
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: public you know, all the court the courthouse and the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: federal buildings all they all of their famous. There's a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: calder down there, the Flamingo.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: They're beautiful.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But our people, you know, if so back before Chicago
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: lost its mind, if somebody built a piece of jug,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: well they did. They built a state office building called
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: well you're from down there, you know, the James Thompson
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Center and down there. Yeah, I mean this got built.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: People get on Trump.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: You know who was the governor when they built the
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: James Thompson Center. Thompson.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: He didn't wait for himself to build, so you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Thompson was a Trump ahead of his time. You know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they rebuilt a downtown off building in Chicago and it
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: was one of these like okay, this is in the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: eighties where there was this trend of building a lot
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of these like bluish kind of building. There's a really
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: ugly federal cordouse in Madison that was on the same concept.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The problem with it is for those of you who
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: know the Uh yeah, the Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: They built this thing on the slope with glass and
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: it's just been a disaster. Rains inside the building, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the same thing has happened at the Thompson cent It
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: would rain inside the offices because of all the glass
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and the sloping out of the condensation would form inside
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the building and water would come down.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: The moment that it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Was built, people ripped and ridiculed it, and it just
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: looks so out of place.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: But my point is when it went up, it was.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Ripped by everybody because the people in Chicago that had
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: some taste. But we don't have anybody that's got enough
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: taste to say this is a piece of junk in Milwaukee,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: So what if somebody famous did it, we don't like it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And the other problem with how our elitist is they
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: don't actually have any taste. Their idea of taste is
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to look around and see what other people think and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: thrive try to pose and claim they like something that
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: happened in the early stages of rock and roll. By
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the way, there were people who didn't get any of it,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And if something was done by Pink Floyd, they would
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: just immediately say it was great. So the other thing
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: with Pink Floyd is I don't think that there's any
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: band that has a wider range of brilliant and crap
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: than them. They're just some bands that did an incredible
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: amount of brilliant things and also what an incredible amount
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: of unlistenable dreck. Pink there are other bands like that too,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: In any band that does a lot of material would
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: be in that category. But there'd be people who if
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it was drek or if you know, most of what
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: was on Dark Side of the Mood is unbelievably brilliant
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: and in its own way haunting and beautiful. Even though
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Roger Waters is a pain in the assid David Gilmore
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: is almost as bad.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: It's very very beautiful stuff.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But they also did some stuff that was just clearly
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: they had to be stoned at the time.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: But people who didn't.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Know anything about rocker but would just automatically say they
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: liked the Pink Floyd thing because they wanted to be
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: a knowing person, because they didn't have.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: The ability to discern what is good or bad.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the stuff that Brian Wilson
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: did after his brain was fried was terrible, and the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: stuff that Brian Wilson did early in his career is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: some of the most beautiful music.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: And the Hiss three of music.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Anybody with an ear can discern the difference between the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: two of them. But our elitists are people who supposedly
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: have taste. There was a writer Eye she's passed away.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think i'll mention her name. She wrote for
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the Journal and she was like the critic and all
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of this stuff. She could not bring herself to rip
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: something that was done by somebody famous. Or if there
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: was an architectural firm in Milwaukee and there's a couple
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of them that they're overrated, there's a couple that are
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: pretty good, but I can't back it up entirely, so.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I won't name any names in there. But you get
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: my point.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: You just drive into a big American city and you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: see a brand new structure that appears to be very
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: word I'm just telling you it's likely a nonprofit. Speaking
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: of Obama, there's a transition here. As most of you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: we're approaching two epic days. They're the same day my
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: birthday and the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: United States. Conveniently enough, they're both landmark birthdays, my fiftieth.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I wonder if do I have to explain when I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: lying there are new people out here. They don't know
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: how old I am. I don't sound like I'm what
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I am? Do I how old do I sound like?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: You think I sound fifty? Jason said, I sound like
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'm fifty. Well, then I'll just go with that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I'll lie.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: If you're stupid enough to fall for it, you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: that's your own fault for being dumb. This is Barack Obama.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: That is Library dedication or his Obama Senate dedication, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of course he can't go without using this as another
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: opportunity to trash the country that he elected him president.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: The Founders fell terribly short of the Declaration's promise. I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: going to just debunk that right there. No, they didn't.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: In other words, okay, the Declaration of Independence sounded good,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but the Founders fell short of action delivering on it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: No, they didn't.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: The problems that occurred in the United States did not
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: occur because of the Founders. Now I know where they're
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: going with this. Yeah, they put together this document, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: some of the states.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: That signed on to it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Some of the colonies that became states that signed on
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: they had slaves. We would not have had a union
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: if we didn't take in the colonies that had slaves.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: And despite what Obama may want to let you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: there were slaves all over the world at that time.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Slavery and planet Earth have gone hand in hand forever.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Read the Bible.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The word slave is in there all over the place.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Slaves were a part of human life, and they were
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: part of human life in a portion of North America,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: including a southern diseas, which has nothing to do with
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the goal of the nation that the founders created. Lots
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: of bad things have happened in the United States since,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: but what the founders created was not flawed. When they said,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: by the way the turn of phrase, that mostly it
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: was Jefferson Road in order to create a more perfect union.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Such an interesting.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Use of words. You would think that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Perfect can't have a qualifier, because perfect it's perfect. It
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: can't be better or worse than perfect. A more perfect union.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: That was their goal.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And what they set out was a nation that respected
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: individual rights. Were rights violent, of course they were violated.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: We're killing Native Americans right and left to take the land.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: We got slaves, providing sheep flabor. Some of the nations
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that came from Britain were in the business of knocking
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: off the parts of the country that were owned by France.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: All of that occurred, but none of that had anything
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to do with the Declaration of Independence. It merely stated
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the type of government and type of society that we
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: wanted to have, because we didn't want to have the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: piece of crap society that they came from England, in
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: which they were ruled by some goof of the crown
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: on his head.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So anyway, this is.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Where all Baba starts. And by the way, it's the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: same thing he's been saying forever. The Founders fell terribly
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: short of the declaration's promise. Former President Barack Obama took
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: am in America's founders doing the opening of his Presidential Center,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: arguing they left slavery intact. How were they not going
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to have slavery intact? Unless they would have just decided
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: that the United States would have only been the colonies
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: in the northeast, there.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Would have been a way to do it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: South Carolina wouldn't have been in there, Georgia wouldn't have
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: been in there. Virginia wouldn't have been in there. You
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: could have created a nation, I suppose, and just had Pennsylvania, Massachusetts,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: New York and the other colonies that didn't have slaves.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: But there was no way that that society then would
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: have been able to survive the onslaught from Britain, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you would have immediately probably had a war between those states. Instead,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: was created an imperfect union in their attempt to create
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a more perfect union. There was an imperfect union that
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: ultimately fought a war to rectify it. Find all the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: other countries in America in which they fought a war
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to get rid of their slaves.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It's a very limited list.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: So he throws the slavery thing in there, as if
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the fault of slavery was the founding fathers, rather than
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: all of the people who owned slaves in the country
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that they came from that had slaves, and the people
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: in Africa that sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: The argument that he makes would mean that any nation
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: or anything that ever was created that had any flaws
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: was somehow a failed creation. The remarks come just days
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: before the United States marks it's two hundred fiftieth anniversary
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: is Obama urged the Americans to continue the work of
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: building a more perfect union. All right, So we have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a pompous, semi heloquent at hack like Obama using the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Presidential Center to go out there and try to crap
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: all over the two hundred and fiftieth birthday. We need
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: a retort here from somebody even better at this than me.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And as you know, I think the most well spoken
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: person on the right, he isn't in the best of
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: health right now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: We need him the.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Last because it will be a great loss when Victor
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: hate Davis Hansen is no longer with us. The thing
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: about Victor Davis Hanson is he's prolific. He does so
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: many but his best stuff is when he puts it
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: in writing, and he writes a lot of columns, in
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of essays. I think he was a pig farmer,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't he Isn't that he gets? Isn't that he made
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: his money?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Do you know? I think it was.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Here's the retort, and this is just like no contest.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: As a general rule, this is Victor Davis Hinson as
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a general rule. Anytime Barack Obama lectures the country or
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: its people on their purported sins. With Khalil Gibron pop platitudes, Gibrod,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I believe that's a guy back from my era that
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: was probably even before your time. This is the kind
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: of guy that wrote crap that they put on posters
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: in the sixties, in the early seventies.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: It was one of those.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: He was one of those guys that somebody who just
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: like did three doobies might think would be eloquent and
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I mean like my Eras style of doobies, ones that
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: got you mile, they buzz as opposed to the stuff
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that they sell right now that turns people in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: mass murderers anyway. With Khalil Gibron pop platitude, he is
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: seeking absolution for his own obsessions by projecting his own
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: guilty desires onto others. Oh, there's a gospel about this
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: teaching of Jesus in which he suggests that when we
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: attack others, we ought to listen to what our attacks are,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: because we're attacking others for the sins that we ourselves possess.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Kind of makes you in prospective if you're somebody that's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: constantly gossiping about a couple of your friends. The thing
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: that you're gossiping about maybe the things that you do.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: And that's what dah Victor Davis had said, is suggesting
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that Obama does here, and he's going to in just
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a couple of paragraphs just eviscerate him. The latest This
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: is Hanson. At the dedication of his narcissistic Obama Presidential
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Center in Chicago, an eight hundred and fifty million dollar
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: flack tower, monolithic boondoggle mired in debt, Obama electured us
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: on the.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Need to resist the allure of money, attention, and fame.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I'll admit even I could handle this happened, But Hanson
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: does it really good? Can you think of anybody less
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: suited other than maybe Trump to bitch about money, attention
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and fame that Obama thus spoke, This is Hanson, Thus
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: spoke the owner of four homes, three of them multi
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: million dollar mansions, whose last inert ear in office spent
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: closing book and Netflix deals that ensured he would become
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a multi millionaire the moment he left office and on
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: spec jets private to semonize to various audiences, often at
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars a shot on their own false
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: consciousness shortcomings in other words, the point that Hanson makes
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: is of all the people who has no business getting
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: up there and balling the rest of us out about
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: resisting the allure of money and resisting.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: The allure of greed. These two hutsters. That would be
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: a great.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: If I wanted to do a series of ninety seven
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: podcasts that only two percent of you would listen to,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: But it would be kind of fun to do who
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: were more self aggrandizing, who prostituted themselves more from their
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: time in the White House of the Obama's boy? Would
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that be an interesting fight every now and then, Beck,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know about the UFC thing. I don't know
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: how people even handicap that stuff, but in boxing you
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: kind of handicap back. I always thought the glory days
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: of boxing was not the heavyweight era. It was the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: light to middleweight area. People fluctuated weightcasses in the seventies
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: when you had Hagler and Sugar Ray and Hitman.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Her and zed Duran was around, and.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: So many of those matches were great because they just
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: seemed dead.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Even that would be.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: The taking advantage of the position in the White House
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and monetizing it and being irrag about it. At the
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: same process. Who would be better at that? The Obamas
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: of the Clintons. I'm killing you.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: That's a dead heat.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: You would have to examine that question for hours to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: be able to come up with an answer. I have
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a quote here, I phone this on a news aggregation
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: site that I come up with Thomas Sowell, who's still
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: with us, another one of the great thinkers of the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: last one hundred years in America.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: This was not in reaction to this is just.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: A quote from him. Every envy once was sorry. Envy
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: was once considered to be one of the seven Dudley sins,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: before it became one of the most admired virtues under
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: its new name social justice. Isn't that true? Isn't that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the whole basis of socialism resent everything that everybody else has.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: There was a time in which we realized that envy
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: was not only self destructive but a sin, It was
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: morally wrong. Those days are long gone. And I will
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: tell you is there's no payoff at envy. Jealousy in
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the long run gets you nowhere. You'll never be happy
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: or happy at preventing over something that somebody else has.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It may make you feel good during the time that
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you're doing a bit. It'll leave you with the same
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: end emptiness afterwards. Quote here from jdvans this whole question
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: of are we letting Iran off the hook? By the way,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I do know now the number of commentators that are
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: saying that Trump Advance are blaming Israel for everything in
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the Middle East. This comes only two months after the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: other segment in America claimed that Trump was houring the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: United States out to Israel. You don't see any of
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the people who opposed the war early on and said
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: that Trump was selling out a national interest to Israel
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: now praising Trump for attempting to end the war before
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Israel wants it ended anyway. JD does ask this question,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and I've been asking it myself as well. For people
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: who want to press on after we've done considerable damage
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: to Iran? Should we try to deliver what the so
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: called knockout punch should be.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: And some on the.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: War right are pushing for this, and Vance, I think
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: offers a reasonable quote here in wondering whether or not
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: it would accomplish anything. Let's imagine we bomb for ten
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: more days. Here's the quote from Vance. I understand that
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: argument and what I would say is what is additional
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: military action, which is always on the table.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: We can always do that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: What does the additional military action accomplish for us?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Right now? We could kill more of their leaders, but
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: you're going to have additional leadership below that. Fundamentally, unless
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: the people who run the country change their behavior over
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: the long term, you're always going to have this problem.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: And so what we're seeing is we're going to pause here.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: They say that they want to do things differently. Let's
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: give them that opportunity.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: If they do, great and if they don't, we can
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: always go back to the other options. No, if you've
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: been listening to me, you know that I agree with this.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I have said repeatedly that it is not the rule
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: of the United States to overthrow the government of Iran.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: In other words, traditional military victory. Traditional military victory means
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the other side surrenders, they lose their country, and we
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: come in and install a new leadership. That's what happened
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: at the end of World War II. We install new
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: leadership in the countries that we toppled, give them a
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: lot of money to rebuild and so on. That is
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: traditional victory. I have said that I do not believe
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you can achieve traditional victory in Iran other than a
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: ground war that we could if we invaded on the ground,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: knock off the government of Iran. I believe you could
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: do that, but I do not believe that it is
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: worth it, and I don't I don't believe that it
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: is in the national interest. They have a bloody ground
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: war in which we would be mired in there as
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: deeply as the Russians were in Afghanistan, or for that matter,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: that Russia and Ukraine is now involved.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: In that it is not worth it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: That in the end, it is up to the Iranian
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: people to find the wherewithal to stage a revolution in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: which hundreds of thousands may be willing to die in
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: an attempt to topple their government and put in place
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: their own And given the fact that they don't have weapons,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it'd be hard to do. And if they don't do it,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: then we're stuck with living in a world in which
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: there's an a rat. But what we can accomplish is
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: dramatically weaken them, damage their economy, knock out the military,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to make them less of a threat than they were before.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And the other point that Vance makes just because you're
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: not bombing them right now. It doesn't mean you can't
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: start bombing them again in three months if the occasion
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: would present itself. So I do agree with this notion
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: of pausing here and seeing what happens, knowing full well
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: that you are dealing with evil, monstrous bastards, and every
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: one of them that we kill, we come up with
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: another evil, monstrous bastard. However, as an observer here that
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't have any skin in the game, it does seem
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to me that Iran no longer speaks with one voice.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I think that the people who are in charge of
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: actually running the country on the ground, the mayors, the
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: regional governors.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: They are the ones.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: They are on the receiving end of the shortages, the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: real hardship that the people have, and they're probably hearing
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the most from the fact that the overwhelming majority of
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Iranians are not happy with these religious Mullahs that, other
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: than the fact that their targets are being killed by us,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: have been exempt from the suffering that the regular old
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: people have, which is why I think some in Iran
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: we're pushing for accommodating the United States more than others.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: But I think the analysis of vans On not just
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: continuing to bomb for bombing's sake, or worse, doing what
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the bill Crystals of the world want, which is or
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: for that matter, I think the Lindsay Grahams have a.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Mess of a ground boar. Now this item.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: As her last act in office, outgoing Director of National
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Intelligence Tocy Gabbard declassified what I'll call the Fauci files.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: They basically prove what many of us suspected. We have
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: black and white documentation that Fauci did fund the research
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: at Wuhan that led to the creator that led to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the COVID virus existing at all. It's been pretty clear
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: that that was the case. But the documents are now
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: out there. They're not classified that it was Fauci. And again,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: some of these records were out, but now they've been
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: officially released. That Fauci created the cover story in which
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the lab leak theory was supposedly going to be debunked,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: which is a lie. All these scientists signed that, And
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: why would they not want the truth to come out?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Because if the truth came out, people would then wonder, well,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: who paid for this research in the first place, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: we would realize that it would actually be Fauci and
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: then lied to Congress the files that Telsi released, and
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to this day we don't know if Trump authorized the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: release or not.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Telsi's gone. What can Trump do to her? Did Trump?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Who has his own mixed record on COVID, Remember that
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: the vaccine was developed initially while.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Trump was there.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: It was put in distribution under Biden, and Trump, for
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: reasons that were understandable at the time, didn't do what
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: in retrospect we should have done. The moment COVID broke out,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: fire fulci's ask and ask and do your best to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: expose the fact that he was the guy who illegally
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: fundeled money to the Wuhan Lab in order to do
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: this dangerous gain of function research and say in the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: first place, in any of it, with the release of
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: this document, says, is proved that I've been right all along.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I have been on this from the beginning. And a
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: let of you say, well, Mark, we know I came
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: from the Wuhan lamb. I know, but we were told
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to get it again and again that it didn't That
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: was the original said and understanding that that it came
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: out of the Wuhan Lab, and that was done in
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Wuhan because you couldn't do it in the United States
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: because it's.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Lee illegal to do it here.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: That Fouci funneled the money through a nonprofit because he's
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: in the do he's one of these evil weirdos, and well,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: that's create a germ. To see how we fight off
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: the germ. We then kept in place a guy running
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: our COVID policy who was only looking out to provide
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: cover for the fact that he's the guy that funded
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: creating COVID in the first place. As I've said from
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the beginning, this is another story in which you will
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: never the leftist stop defending FOCI, but you will never
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: see them come out and acknowledge that Fauci is one
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: of the worst Americans of this current century.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: He's a monster.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: He did a terrible disservice to our nation, and they
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: defended him and defended him a he's doing side, even
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: though he's making it all up as he went along
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: and put the mask on. Don't put the mask on,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: give us two weeks to flatten the curve, all this crap,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: and it was all in attempt to stop the an
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: overreaction to the thing that he most feared, the discovery
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: of the fact that he broke the law to pump
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: money into letting the Chinese mess around with this deadly virus,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: A virus that will now as it continues to morph,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: be around for the rest of I think humanity hopefully
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: will continue to develop immunity, so it gets weaker and weaker.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: We can keep fighting it off. But we didn't have
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the COVID virus before. It didn't exist. COVID nineteen didn't exist.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Now it exists, and now it's going to be out
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: there forever because of this Cretan fauci. You know what
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I think. I think segment has been so good that
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: it's time now to end. It will take a brief
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: break on the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Belling Podcast. Now, this is an interesting criminal case that
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: played out last week in Milwaukee. For those of you
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: who aren't from the local area, you may not have
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: followed some of the coverage. There was a terrible automobile accident.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: It was down in the valley near There's this area
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: just to the south of By ninety four in Milwaukee,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: down the hill toward Pottawatamie. Down there are some industrial buildings,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: some retail the Marquette's soccer and the crossfields are down
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: there on a little bit farther on, that's where the
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Pottawadaby Casino is. There was a terrible crash. Two people
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: were killed. The Milwaukee County District Attorney's office criminally charged
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: both drivers, the driver of the vehicle in which the
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: young people were passengers. That driver, according to the testimony
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: at the trial, was driving terribly recklessly. The estimate of
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the speed was about fifty three miles per hour in
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: a thirty mile perrower zone, rolling through.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: A red.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: The vehicle that struck That car was driven by a
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: woman who herself was drunk. Now, normally this would be
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a simple answer for people. You've got a fatal crash
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and one of the drivers was drunk out of her mind,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: should she be charged in connection with the accident. The
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: jury found her not guilty. The jury found her not guilty,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: essentially arguing that even though she was drunk, the accident
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: primarily was not her fault.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: That there may be and there's still going to be
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: civil suits.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Of course, this is the criminal and there's a different
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: burden of proof in the criminal One of the jurors
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: who said she anguished over the decision allowing the woman
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: to walk and get away with it is we think
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: she may have contributed to the crash, but not to
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the fatality. I'll quote from the js online story of this.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Amandrea Brunner, forty two, of West Alice, was arrested on
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the scene of the September fifth crash at North twenty
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: seventh Street and West Saint Paul Avenue near the Marquette campus.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: It ended the lives of Scott Michaud nineteen and Noah
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Snyder twenty and again, for those of you who don't
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: know this, this is very, very close to where you
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: get off of I ninety four and get on in
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: ninety four. The entrance there is the twenty sixth Street entrance.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: You get on by twenty seventh and you get off
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: at twenty sixth and it's right in there, and Saint
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Paul is.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: A little bit south.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: You know, there's Wisconsin Avenue, and then there's Go in
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the right direction, Michigan and Clybourn and so on, and
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: West Saint Paul is the next and Seeing Paul is
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: one of the streets that then kind of goes into
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: the area in the bottom of the hill and pottawaa
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Bee a few more blocks south of that. So in
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: any event, I've been through that intersection a lot of times,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: and it's a cockeyde enter interception because there's hills and
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: the road's curve, and it used to be that there
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: is almost no traffic there, but now there's a ton
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of it because it's one of the ways that people
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: going to and from Pottawatabe come through. Plus the Marquette
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: soccer fields on the crossfields and so on are down there.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Says a lot of students that come.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: There anyway, it can be dangerous in there' Ben Rex,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: let me again quote from the description of the story. Brunner,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: that's the forty two year old woman. She was driving
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the vehicle that did not have the students in it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Phase six felonies, two counts of homicide by intoxicated use
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: of the vehicle, two counts of homicide by use of
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a vehicle with a prohibited alcohol concentration, two counts of
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: homicide by use of a vehicle involving a controlled substance.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Assistants attorney Emily Zimmer said Bruner should be held response
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: for the crash because she was drunk. Under her level
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: of intoxication rented her incapable of operating a vehicle safely.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Bruner's defense team Dustin Davidson, an Abigail ruck Dasher. Ruckdasher
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: said the driver, Peter McColgan, also a Marquette student, was
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: traveling at fifty three miles per hour when the cars collided.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: The speed limit in the area is thirty miles per hour.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: McColgan faces two counts of homicide by negligent operation of
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: a vehicle and CBS fifty A quoted a juror, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: can say that I'm confident that Brunner, that's the forty
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: two year old woman, not the driver of the car,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: but the students contributed to the accident. But I cannot speak,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: cannot say that she contributed to the death. So what
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you have here is a situation in which clearly the
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: other driver is drunk, and clearly there was a terrible accident. Well,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: let's imagine I have an accident and it's my fault
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and the car I hit is driven by somebody who's drunk.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: The fact that the person is.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Drunk doesn't change the fact that it was probably my fault. Now,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: was the other person's drunkenness to that contribute because they
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: didn't avoid well enough, et cetera. That's where in a
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: civil case juries come in and divide out responsibility, Whose
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: insurance pays more for this and so on. I am
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: not going to say whether or not this verdict is
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the right verdict or not, because this is one of
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: those cases.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: At which you literally had to hear all of.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: The testimony as to what vehicle was where and how
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: much the impaired nature of the first of the driver
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Bruner impacted the crash, if at all. But it is
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: certainly possible that the jury got it right. Now, let's
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: go to a case in which, not surprisingly, a Wakashaw
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: County judge got it wrong. The good news about the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: judiciary in Wakashaw County is two of the worst judges
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: in the county, maybe the two worst, are leaving the bench,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Ralphie Ramirez and William Dominda. The bad news is they're
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: still on the bench. We're in that lame duckery period
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: of them. Domina was pointed to the bench by Jim
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Doyle when he was the governor. Doyle left office in
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: twenty eleven, so he was appointed a few years before that.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: He's been on the bench forever and he's been a
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: lame ass Walkershaw County judge. Not terrible, just not to
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: the standards of a conservative community. I want you to
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: listen to this case, and I'm going to tell you
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: right here that the guy got a walk, no time,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: second offense operating while intoxicated. His name is Brett Menike.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: He was at a level of point three two. The
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: legal limit in Wisconsin is pointh eight. That's four times
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: the drunk level. I think even in my younger days,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: when I drank way more than I do now, I
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: just don't believe I ever in my never mind driving
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: got to the level of point three to two. Fortunately,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: i'd be somebody who either pukes or passes out long
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: before that. I just could would not be able to
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: get there.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I just couldn't.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing. Point three to two now, body
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: size and all of that. They've estimated in the past
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: that each drink takes you up another point h two,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: so point o eight for a person of I don't
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: know what the weight size, to say, one to eighty
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: would be about four drinks in an hour. After that,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: the alcohol wears off a little bit. And are you
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: just drinking more to outpaced that the people who slammed
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: down shots are the ones that often get really drunk,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: are the people that go on one or two day
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: vendors and so on. But he was at a point
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: three to two, which is really really really drunk. He
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: struck two vehicles and hit a pedestrian, injuring his knee,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and fled the seat. Second offense drunk driving. The judge
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: in the case, William Domin and Waukesha County, gave him
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty days in jail and then stayed
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: the sentence. Stayed me mean, you don't serve it for this,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: all of this, all he gets is probation. Now, my
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: opinions I've expressed forever is a first defense drunk driving
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: without any other factors. You didn't hurt anybody, righty, think
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: you're just kneeled for first defense drunk driving. We don't
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: need to ruin somebody's life. It's already can cost you
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: your job. It's a scarlet letter that follows you, it
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: has an impact on your insurance, and it sets the
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: stage for the second one being serious. But you don't
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: have to ruin a person's life because a lot of
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: people get a first defense. Drunk driving are not people
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: that deserve to have their life wrecked. But once you
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: start getting into the multiple and when you get into
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: the aggravated, you leave the scene, you hit someone, you
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: injure someone, or you're way out the limit. Zonkerd to
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: give this guy a walk is despicable.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I know Domin is a bleeding heart, and as I say,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: it's a good thing that he's getting his sorey ass
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: off the bench and take its fellow Ralphie Ramirez with him.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I've been riding the two of them forever and people
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: ask me, what do you have against these two? But
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I have against him is I think that they're crappy judges.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: And the reason that I say this is I admit
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: that there are judges in Milwaukee County as bad as
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Bill Domina, but he's in Walkershaw County, and I hold
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: it to a higher standard because the majority of voters
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: in Walkershak County are conservative and they don't want lefty judges.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: And if you're wondering why he's lasted on the bench
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: all these years, nobody runs against him. The only time
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: you get a challenger for a judicial office in Walkershaw
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: County is if it's a vacant seat and not even
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: always then, or if you have a judge that was
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: just put on by Tony Evers. Fortunately they've run against
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: them and they've beaten all of them. But this was
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a duyle judge and nobody ever challenged him, nobody took
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: him on. The Walkershaw County Cordo system was like a
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: little clique, the same as it is everywhere else. I'm
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: not saying that Domini has made bad decisions in numerous cases,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: but this is one out the door, and it was
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: just that it was like the Obama thing that he
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: built in Illinois, flipping off anybody who wants any level
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: of accountability at all. It would seem to me that
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty days in jail that he that
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: he stayed was about accurate. It was Owy Repeater Enhandser,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: so that applies to me. Second, so the second matters
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: to something. Then the level of intoxication, the fact that
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: he left the scene hit and run, on the fact
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: that a pedestrian was injured being hitting the knee, it
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: was in a parking lot. All of this to me
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: calls for time and other than maybe another talk show
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: host Sadly, I don't think anybody's gonna get on dominant
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: for this, and he's going to suffer no consequences whatsoever
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: for depraved indifference to the damage that this guy caused.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Now to this.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Bob Bauman, the downtown Milwaukee Alderman, I have a pretty
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: good relationship with Bowman. He's a lefty, but frankly, where
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I live, how you're not going to have a lefty,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: so I at least about one who's responsive and accountable. Now,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: this is one of those stories that I've been telling
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: you forever was bound to happen. Once the first scooters
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: came in, they were bird scooters, and people said, why
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: do they call them these different?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: It's the name of the company. What do they call them?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Bird scooters? Birds the company? Now the majority of the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: scooters in Milwaukee are Limescooters. Why do they call me
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: because Lime's the name of the company. Why do people
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: have such a hard time with these things? There's the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: same situation with these scooters going on where I live
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: in Florida, heavily. I live in a really heavily traffic street,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: like the most heavily traffic street maybe in this side
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of Shanghai or somewhere. The traffics bumping a bumper moves slowly,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: and these scooters are flying in and out of traffic,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: and worse, they're on the sidewalk. In Milwaukee, it is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: illegal to ride the scooters on the sidewalk. They are
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: complete men to pedestrians, especially older people, are dog walkers,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: and so on. Because the scooters now can go really fast,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: you have to ride them on the street. But a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: lot of the people on the scooters don't want to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: ride on the street because they're was season. They're afraid
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: that they're going to get hit by a car. So
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I love this. They're afraid of themselves getting hurt, so
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: they get on the sidewalk where they're the ones that
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: can do the damage. In addition to that, everybody knows
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: that even the traffic laws are enforced in Milwaukee because
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: the cops are simply too overwhelmed to be out there
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: doing traffic enforcement. They're too busy trying to catch murderers.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: So there was a terrible accident in which one of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: these scooter operators hit somebody who's very well known in
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee. He's one of the operators of a really
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: prominent gay bar in town. And he suffered a bad injury,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: and there was footage of it, and I haven't seen
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the footage at Bob Bauman saying it's nauseating, it's sick
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: to your stomach. See how bad the accident occurred. I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: want to quote from the JS online. He was the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: owner of the Leakage nightclub in Milwaukee, Dave Wolves. I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: don't believe I've ever met him, and the name doesn't
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: ring a bell, but that just might be because it's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: slipped out of my mind. He was hit by a
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: guy riding a limestcooter. Boman said it was brutal to watch.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: There is a guy that's facing criminal charges in connection
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: with it. Bouman is now saying that there needs to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: be more restrictions. He doesn't say what they should be,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: and this is the problem.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: I've stayed in my position on this, and I stated
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: it when the first one started showing up a few
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: years ago. I think they should be bad. Oh h
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you that's what people react. These scooters are motorized. In
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: addition to that, the premise of the scooters is I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: think unsightly. When you ride the scooter, you simply leave
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: it wherever it is, so the scooters just lay around
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: all over town and on the East side. They're operated
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: off of an app. When you get off the scooter,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: if you don't have the app, they are deactivated. The
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: scooter doesn't start, the lock mechanism is engaged, and the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: motorization of it doesn't start, so you could steal it,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: but there's a tracker on it and it doesn't run
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: unless you have the app, so nobody really steals them,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: so they just leave them laying around, and then every
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: night the company that runs them scoops them all up
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: and throws them in a truck and then redistributes them.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: In the morning.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: So anyway, they're dangerous and anybody who drives downtown with
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: this has had the same situation that I've had. Many
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: times they'll come up on your right side and you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: don't often see them because they're coming so fast, and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: it's not like a car or even a bicycle.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: It's just the person whizzing through along the curve.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: And there's been any number of times where you almost
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: hit them because they just come upon you so fast. Secondly,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: many of them will dart in and out of traffic
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: on them. These things none of them, it seems to me,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: on or red lights and fourth lay. Despite the fact
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: they're not allowed to go on sidewalks, many of them
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: go on the sidewalks.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: In the community.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Living in Florida, the city there is just is dealing
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: with the exact same issue, and they just passed a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: bunch of restrictions. I think riders have to wear helmets,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: they have to be on the streets. You can't be
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: on a sidewalk. But again, the problem is you can
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: say that they're not gonna be on the sidewalk. What
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: are you gonna if somebody's on a sidewalk. Here's what
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I think should occur, given the fact that I know
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: that we're not gonna ban them, I think you need
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: to have a driver's license and insurance you're operating a
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: motor rice vehicle on the street. And I've said the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: same thing with regard to these e bikes that are
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: now going thirty miles an hour Woods.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: It inverted in an e.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Bike on of Harley. Well, the Harley's louder and it
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: can get to one hundred and twenty, But the Harley's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: not going one hundred and twenty on congested streets in Milwaukee,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: because nobody can go one hundred and twenty because you're
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: stuck behind cars. Understand, we've got a lot of people
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: who don't have a driver's licenses in Milwaukee. But if
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: you're operating a motorized vehicle on the street, I think
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: it should have to be licensing.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: You should have to have insurance, and the.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Ability of you to cause harm is just as great
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: as it is in a car, perhaps greater, especially if
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: you're on the sidewalk. I'm not driving my car on
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: the sidewalk, but some of these people are riding the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: e bikes and the scooters of the sidewalks, and they
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: can crash into people. And I think they offer virtually
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: no benefit to society unless we build them with speed limiters.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: And if Bird and Lie, I think Bird is gone.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: If Liman whoever else is operating these scooters wants to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: put a limited to limit these things to about ten
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: or twelve miles per hour, and then maybe I'll listen.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Many people have said, well, what are you worried about,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: because if anybody gets hurt, it's just going to be
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the people on them, and almost none of them are
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: wearing helmets.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: That's just to me the weirdest thing.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I'll see somebody riding get a regular old bicycle with
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: a helmet on on the scooters that are on the street,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: and they don't have a helmet.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I think the bike is safer.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know what is safer, So bombit and say
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: what he thinks that should be done about it? And
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: he's saying, well, there ought to be something to do
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: with it. And I'm a problem solver if we can't
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: ban them, which we don't make them have driver's licenses,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: which would require of course that they be at least sixteen,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: and make them get insurance as they would with anybody else.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: The problem, of course is that the police would never
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: be able to enforce it, because they can't enforce the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: people that are violating those own laws with cards right now.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: But at least they could face some consequences if some
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: sort of bad accident occurs. You're listening to the Mark
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Belling podcast. I need to mention the time we're releasing
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: this podcast, because it's a very good chance that when
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: you hear it, the information will be dated. The NBA
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: draft is tomorrow night, Tuesday night, and I believe it
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: is very likely that Yannis will not be a Milwaukee
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: bus in a matter of hours. I think it's likely that,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: first of all, he's going to be traded. I'll just
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: be shocked if he's not traded, And I believe he
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: needs to be traded. He needs to be traded for
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: his own good, and the Bucks need to trade him
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: because they're not winning any championships with him, and he's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: at a point in his career in which he seems
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: to be constantly hurt.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: So there's going to be a trade. Trade.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: In the NBA, people are traded all the time. The
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Bucks appear to have two prime offers out there. I
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: believe it's possible there are others. If there is a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: sport in which stuff happens in secrecy, it's the NBA.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: The Dallas Mavericks that they just hired the basketball coach
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: of Michigan, Dusty may. I had read no rumors of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: this at all. They kept that completely quiet. When the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Bucks signed Damian Lillitt a couple of years ago, there
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: had never been any leaks of this. There may be
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: somebody else in play, but we know for the media
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: has reported widely that there are two offers out there.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: The Miami Heat is offering four average players, Tyler Harrow,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: who's they've been offering in trades forever and ever and ever,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee native kalel Ware, who is a young wing who's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: pretty good. I guess Jamie Jakes's name has been mentioned
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: in several others, and then the belief is Miami would
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: offer about five or six first strong draft choices. The
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: other offer that's been mentioned is essentially a one on one.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: The Bucks would get a little more than one, but
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: you would have a trade of superstars with the Bucks
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: in Boston, where the Bucks would send Yanis to Boston
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: and the Celtics would send Jalen Brown, who was sixth
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: in the voting for MVP this year, who's a high
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: scoring guard. Likely the Bucks would also get Boston's number
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: one pick and maybe one or two.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Other players in there.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: But Boston's pick in the draft is late in the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: draft because they had a good season. You would be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: trading Yannis, who's a wing, for Brown, who's a guard.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: But Brown is younger than Yana and maybe less vulnerable
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: to injury. I'll not so old on the Miami trade
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: because I think that the players that the Bucks are
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: being offered.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Just aren't that good. No knock on Tyler Harrow, who
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think the Bucks have a need for anyway,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: because they're loaded with guards like him as it is,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: they'd probably just move him anyway. I think Kollelware is
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: not He's somebody whose hype is greater than his talent is.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: If Miami doesn't give up Bam Abbadio, I mean, I'm
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: down there in Miami.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I watch that team. They don't have a lot of
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: talent on that team. They have Abbatio and a bunch
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: of guys that are kind of okay. Jamie jokeisses okay.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: They're not going to trade the two guys that are
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: okay because they in order to win with Giannis, they
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: need to have something around him, so they can give
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: up all their spare parts and then you hand off
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: draft choices.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. If it works in.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Miami, and it probably would, then the draft choices you're
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: getting the next five years of the t twenty fifth,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirtieth pick of the draft, almost a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: second round pick. In order to turn a team around,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you need picks that are early in the draft that
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know how Miami brings that to you, which
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: brings you to Boston. If you did make the trade
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: for Jalen Brown, you could then flip and send him
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: to a bad team. Brown is not somebody who I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: think can take a bad team and turn him into
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: a contender right away and maybe get better first round picks.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Or you just roll the dice, get an additional number
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: one take on Jalen Brown and see how if you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: can put it together with the other players that the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Bucks currently have. I think more likely Giannis isn't the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: only older player that the Bucks are going to move
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: on from. I think that probably Bobby Portis and Kyle
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Kuzma are likely to be included in a trade here.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Both of them are players who don't seem to be
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: playing to the potential of their paychecks right now, but
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: might be attractive to other teams and get a deal
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: done that way.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Either way.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: This moment is as significant to the Box as when
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: they traded Kareem way back in the nineteen seventy's, a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: trade that kept the Box as being okay for many
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: many years, but didn't give them the value of Kareem.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: It's very hard to trade Giannis and get the value
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: of Giannis, but Giannis is a year left in his contract.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: If he hasn't traded right now, you're likely to get
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: nothing for him. And as I said, Giannis is now.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: So banged up. I don't know.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know that Jannis can go anywhere and be
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: the guy. He could go to a team like Boston
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: and be one of the two or three.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Guys that they have.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: But I do think that the move is going to occur.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: And finally this now with the Milwaukee Brewers, Pat Murphy
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: is going to have a minor back procedure this week
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: and then a hip replacement in a month.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I worry about this.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: One of the strengths of the Breweries his manager is
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: just at a different level in terms of running a team.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: He handles the clubhous as well as anybody, and he's
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: a very good game strategist. I'm certainly open to the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: notion that, just as I don't think David Sturns was
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: the reason the Brewers were as great as they were
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the last few years, I think it was his right
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: hand man, Matt Arnold. I will remind everyone that when
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Craig Counsel came to the Breweries, the guy he hired
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: to be his Dugout coach was Pat Murphy, and the
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Brewers have gotten better since Murphy since Council left, as
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Murphy's now running the show. How much of it all
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: along was Murphy? I worry this about Murphy. I know
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: people that have had Have you ever had any back problems?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Jason going right now? Often when you have back problems,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: you're on strong pain beds.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: I don't want Murphy doped up in the dugout.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: The one thing I will say is I know people
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: have had hip replacements. Every one of them feels better
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: almost instantly. What you have to recover from is the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: soul they cut into your hip, But the hip itself
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  Speaker 2: feels better. What hurts is the slicing that they get
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  Speaker 2: into your body, and you'll need some opioids to recover
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  Speaker 2: from that. But you know, the hip replacement I endorse.
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  Speaker 2: I'm always worried about back surgery. Just seems to be
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  Speaker 2: that everybody that I know that's had back surgery never
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  Speaker 2: gets any better.
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  Speaker 3: The Tiger Woods syndrome, the.
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  Speaker 2: Hip replacement though when you get TV, I haven't had
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  Speaker 2: any of this stuff. I haven't had a knee replacement.
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  Speaker 2: Have it had a hip replacement?
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  Speaker 3: Boy? Ol boy. It seems like almost.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody I know has had one, and they all said
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  Speaker 2: they feel they go from miserable to be in great shape.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is sometimes they need to do the other
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  Speaker 2: one and so on. So I wish Murphy the best
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  Speaker 2: on that. That's a bitch to have. And that's it
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