Latest / The Piano Maven with Jed Distler / The Ideal Major Chopin Piano Works
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- 0:05This is Jed Disler, and welcome to The Piano
- 0:08Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano recordings.
- 0:13Today is October 20th, 2025, and tonight is the
- 0:19night that we hear the final performances in
- 0:23the... closing final rounds of the Chopin competition
- 0:28here in Warsaw. I am in Warsaw. I've been here
- 0:31for the entire competition, blogging about it
- 0:35for Gramophone and also having daily Chopin reports
- 0:40on video, which you can watch on YouTube. And
- 0:45we will find out the winner tonight. And as we
- 0:50wait for the results with bated breath, I thought
- 0:54that it could be fun to put a list together of
- 0:58the ideal Chopin major piano works, and I would
- 1:04recommend two recorded versions for each of these,
- 1:08one being a historic choice or an historic choice.
- 1:13Do you say a or an? I can't remember. I've been
- 1:17working too hard here, and my brain is turning
- 1:20into jello. But we will have one. historic choice
- 1:24and one modern era choice. And what I mean by
- 1:28the major Chopin solo works is that I'm talking
- 1:31about recorded cycles of the complete waltzes,
- 1:35the complete polonaises, complete mazurkas, etc.,
- 1:38etc. And my goal is not to repeat a pianist on
- 1:43this list. Now, I have mentioned some of these
- 1:47recordings in earlier episodes, and I probably
- 1:51will discuss them in upcoming episodes. But I'm
- 1:54going to go through the list pretty quickly.
- 1:57And I know that you are going to weigh in with
- 2:00your comments and your own choices. And I will
- 2:03offer a couple of honorable mentions as alternatives
- 2:07in the case of modern recordings. Because I know
- 2:10that you're going to say, hey Jed, how can you
- 2:13recommend pianist X in the etudes when everyone
- 2:16knows that the best etudes are by pianist Y?
- 2:20I mean, why don't you know that? That's a fact.
- 2:24Of course it's a fact, right? And I've also chosen
- 2:28some recordings as well that may not be my personal
- 2:32tip -top all -time favorites, but they still
- 2:35are terrific and highly recommendable. The point
- 2:39being is that there are no weak links on this
- 2:42list, at least in my unhumble opinion. So get
- 2:46ready. Here we go. We're going to start with
- 2:49the etudes. And when I did my talk on recorded
- 2:53versions of the Chopin etudes last year, I mentioned
- 2:57from the 1950s the mono recording by Paul Badura
- 3:02Skoda. So that will be my historic choice here
- 3:05again, simply because they're really well played
- 3:09and consistently musical. My top modern version
- 3:13in that Chopin etudes talk was by Juana Zayas,
- 3:17her 1983 recording on music and arts. But I'm
- 3:22actually going to bait and switch. And I'm going
- 3:26to recommend the very recent recording by Yoon
- 3:28Chan Lim. Now, all of the critics raved about
- 3:33this one, and it won the Gramophone Award. Although
- 3:37I hedged my bets a little bit, because I sometimes
- 3:41think that this pianist is a little too clever
- 3:44for his own good. But for sheer virtuosity and
- 3:48entertainment value and genuine musicality, I
- 3:52enjoy this set. of Chopin etudes by Yoon Chan
- 3:56Lim for what it is. So I have no hesitation about
- 4:00putting it in as a modern recommendation. Okay,
- 4:05now we get to the waltzes. My historic choice.
- 4:10Well, it is stereo and it's from the 1960s, but
- 4:14I suppose we can allow that to be historic because
- 4:17it's on melodia and the sound quality is not
- 4:21the greatest. This cycle of waltzes features
- 4:24Bela Davidovich, and I think that her performances
- 4:28are gorgeously nuanced and proportioned. They're
- 4:32full of imagination, but they're also tasteful
- 4:35and cultivated. And had these recordings been
- 4:38generally available in the West and in better
- 4:42sound, they would have challenged Arthur Rubinstein's
- 4:46supremacy as a reference version. I'm talking
- 4:49about his stereo version. But in recent years,
- 4:52Rubinstein's domination in the waltzes has been
- 4:56challenged. And I bring up the Alexander Thoreau
- 5:01recording because he brings great originality
- 5:04and insight to everything he touches in the waltzes.
- 5:08And he also comes up with an interesting running
- 5:10order in contrast to presenting the waltzes numerically.
- 5:15I recently did an episode about the Chopin preludes
- 5:19and recommended recordings, so I guess I have
- 5:22to regurgitate two versions from that list. So
- 5:26my historic choice for this ideal list of Chopin
- 5:31major works is the recording that Alfred Courtauld
- 5:35made in 1934. I think it's sonically and technically,
- 5:40pianistically speaking, best of his three versions
- 5:45of the preludes that he recorded on 78s. Each
- 5:49prelude pretty much inhabits its own world and
- 5:53has its own character in the hands of Courtauld.
- 5:56And you can say the same for one of the most
- 5:59underrated of modern recorded prelude cycles.
- 6:04And this is the one on brilliant classics with
- 6:07Wolfram Schmidt Leonardi. I remember when this
- 6:11first came out, I got so engrossed with this
- 6:14release that when I wrote my review for classicstoday
- 6:17.com, I got really carried away with detail.
- 6:22And I wrote a review that probably was much longer
- 6:25than it necessarily should have been. But I'm
- 6:28glad I really... wrote such a detailed review
- 6:31because this is a very detailed and deeply considered
- 6:34and stylish and absolutely first -class edition
- 6:39of the Preludes. Wolfram Schmidt Leonardi. He
- 6:43is such an outstanding musician, and he has one
- 6:46of the most consistently satisfying discographies
- 6:50out there, not just in Chopin, but in Schumann,
- 6:53and there's a wonderful Scarlatti disc. He has
- 6:57a new Beethoven disc. I have not yet heard it,
- 6:59but I look forward to it. Now we get to the...
- 7:03And I have talked about that genius live 1964
- 7:08performance from Moscow with Arthur Rubinstein
- 7:12way too often on this podcast or in any other
- 7:17public forum where I appear. But because Rubinstein
- 7:21appears later on in this podcast list of ideal
- 7:27major Chopin works, my historic choice. will
- 7:31just simply have to be the classic Dinu Lepati
- 7:34recording. And can you believe that he did not
- 7:37want this to be? It was only released after his
- 7:41death, and it's been the gold standard of Chopin
- 7:45Barcarolles for 75 years, so that's kind of a
- 7:48shoo -in. Now, when I did my recommendations
- 7:52for Ben Laude on his Chopin podcast, I spoke
- 7:57about Roland Pertinen's wonderful performance
- 8:00of the Barcarolle as a modern reference version,
- 8:04and it is indeed wonderful. However, for our
- 8:08purposes now, I re -listened to a whole slew
- 8:12of Barcarolles released over the past 25 years
- 8:15or a little more, and I kept coming back to this
- 8:19really elegant, really transparent, and very
- 8:23line -oriented interpretation that manages to
- 8:28reconcile Chopin's classicism with his foreshadowing
- 8:32impressionism in certain ways. This is the recording
- 8:36by Richard Goode from his only all Chopin disc.
- 8:41You don't think of Richard Goode as a Chopin
- 8:44specialist at all, but this is one of the best
- 8:47barquerels I know on disc. You really have to
- 8:50hear it. For the berceuse, for my historic choice,
- 8:54I have another pianist who was hardly known for
- 8:57Chopin and whose Chopin I often find underwhelming,
- 9:02but Everything comes gorgeously together when
- 9:06Wilhelm Kempf. plays the berceuse. And he set
- 9:10the berceuse down for Decca in the late 1950s.
- 9:13And it's a gorgeous recording with prismatic
- 9:17textures and gradations of tone and articulation.
- 9:21It's just divine. And my modern recommendation
- 9:25for the berceuse remains Murray Pariah. And I've
- 9:29talked about this recently in my berceuse roundup,
- 9:32so I really don't need to say more about this.
- 9:36Now for piano. Piano Sonata No. 2. How can I
- 9:40not recommend Rachmaninoff's 1930 recording as
- 9:44my historic choice? Of course, he totally rewrites
- 9:48the dynamics and phrasings, and he puts his own
- 9:51forceful personal stamp on every bar. But what
- 9:55a powerful and shattering listening experience
- 9:59this recording still is 95 years after it was
- 10:04made. modern versions is the Nelson Freire recording
- 10:10on Decca. It's full of fire and poetry and personality.
- 10:15Everything is there. Now for piano sonata number
- 10:19three, my historic choice. Actually, we're spoiled
- 10:23for strong historic choices in the B minor sonata.
- 10:27But I'm going to mention the world premiere 1925
- 10:31recording with Percy Granger. And this interpretation
- 10:35still holds up. And my colleague Peter Rabinowitz
- 10:39actually recommended this in his recent gramophone
- 10:43collection survey of the Chopin B minor sonata
- 10:47recordings on disc. Percy Granger's music making
- 10:51is wonderfully communicative and energetic. So
- 10:55alive. And of course, you would expect that for
- 10:59my modern... ideal choice, I would mention Martha
- 11:02Argerich, and her interpretation is still at
- 11:06the top of the list, so that was a no -brainer.
- 11:09Ah, but which studio Martha Argerich recording
- 11:14from 1965? Her Deutsche Grammophon version or
- 11:18the one that she recorded for EMI that was not
- 11:21released until the late 1990s? I slightly lean
- 11:26toward the EMI version, but basically both of
- 11:30these are fantastic. So it's like apples and
- 11:33oranges. Now for A Cycle of the Balots. My challenge
- 11:40was to pick the historic version for this list
- 11:44that was not Alfred Courtauld, because we have
- 11:47Courtauld in the preludes. So I'm torn between
- 11:50the classically oriented and emotionally cool
- 11:55early 1950s version of the ballads with Robert
- 12:00Cassaday -Sue and then the much more willful
- 12:04mono recordings by Samson François. I guess I'm
- 12:09going to go with Samson François because he's
- 12:11sort of quarto by proxy in many ways. And for
- 12:15my top modern or modern -ish, I've talked about
- 12:20Ivan Morovets from the 1960s, and that was my
- 12:24choice for the Balads in my Chopin podcast recommendation
- 12:28for Ben Laude. And I love the Ivan Morovets version.
- 12:34And my friend David Hurwitz has recommended the
- 12:37Ivan Morovets Chopin Balads. often in his videos.
- 12:42This is poetic and refined playing with not one
- 12:46note out of place and without any phrase that
- 12:49hasn't been worked out. But the sense of organic
- 12:53flow to these performances makes you forget the
- 12:57sheer workmanship involved. Now let's go to the
- 13:00four scherzos. George Bolette recorded the Scherzos
- 13:05for the Remington label in 1953. Remington was
- 13:09one of the first budget classical labels, and
- 13:12these performances were reissued on the Marston
- 13:16label. And you get all the salient qualities
- 13:20that you associate with George Bolette in these
- 13:23performances. They may not be the most scintillating
- 13:26versions out there, but the musicality really
- 13:29speaks volumes. However, for youthful scintillation
- 13:33and fire, as well as lyricism, it's kind of difficult
- 13:37for me to choose between three modern editions
- 13:42of the four scherzos. And since I did pick the
- 13:46Deutsche Grammophon recording by Xiangjin Cho
- 13:49when I did Ben Laude's Chopin podcast, I'm going
- 13:53to go for my modern choice here, Benjamin Grosvenor's
- 13:58fantastic cycle of the four scherzos. So it was
- 14:00on the Decca label. Benjamin Grosvenor is the
- 14:04real thing. He's a great pianist. He's a great
- 14:06artist. And he's also one of the nicest and most
- 14:10modest musicians I know. He was a guest on my
- 14:13radio show Between the Keys right before the
- 14:16pandemic. And he wears his brilliance lightly.
- 14:20Moving on to the F minor fantasy, no question,
- 14:24the historic version of choice is the great 1932
- 14:29recording by Solomon. And the most volatile and
- 14:33impassioned modern recording, believe it or not,
- 14:37is the one that Claudio Arau made for Phillips
- 14:40when he was in his early 70s. And to my ears,
- 14:43it has more fire in its belly than in Arau's
- 14:47earlier recordings of the fantasy. We come to
- 14:50the four impromptus as a cycle. And for the historic
- 14:54choice, I still love those mono recordings on
- 14:58the Vox label with Miroslav Horshavsky. They're
- 15:02absolutely beautiful. And my modern edition remains
- 15:06my regular reference version choice of Earl Wilde.
- 15:11Now to the nocturnes. From the early 1950s, my
- 15:15historic choice is Jan Smetterlin, because he
- 15:19has this genius for projecting melodies and making
- 15:23them float over the bar lines. And for my modern
- 15:26choice, the recent Chopin Nocturne cycle with
- 15:30Stephen Hoff on Hyperion. I love. These are deeply
- 15:36felt performances. They are meticulously thought
- 15:39out and pianistically distinctive. And they stand
- 15:43with the best of the Nocturne cycles. And you
- 15:46always hear something new each time you listen
- 15:48to any of these performances. And they're beautifully
- 15:51engineered, too, by the way. For the Mazurkas,
- 15:55my historic choice, it can't be Rubinstein, because
- 16:00he's going to make an appearance very soon. My
- 16:03historic choice, and this may surprise you, is
- 16:06Nadia Reisenberg. She recorded them for Westminster
- 16:10in the 1950s, and they were reissued on Bridge.
- 16:14I'm going to quote from my review of her mazurka
- 16:18cycle that I wrote for classicstoday .com. I
- 16:22wrote that, compared to Rubinstein's natural
- 16:25singing tone and sprinting elan, Reisenberg's
- 16:29mazurkas generally are more angular, and hard
- 16:32-edged, but not without poetic reserves. Notwithstanding
- 16:37occasional rhythmic stiffness, opus 7 number
- 16:411's over -articulated melody, opus 68 number
- 16:452's unsettled basic pulse, and the earthbound
- 16:48opus 50 number 1. Well, opus 50 number 1, who
- 16:52cares? I cannot stand that piece. Reisenberg
- 16:56is sympathetic toward the wide range of moods
- 17:01and styles that Chopin brought to the mazurka
- 17:03idiom. She plays down Op. 24 No. 4's inherent
- 17:08athleticism in order to let the contrapuntal
- 17:12writing sink in, yet she relishes the elemental
- 17:15swagger of Op. 56 No. 2's bass lines and the
- 17:21posthumous C major mazurka's quirky modality.
- 17:25The pianist delivers the goods when the music
- 17:28calls for lilt and delicacy, but she also serves
- 17:31up an eccentric detail or two. So that's Nadia
- 17:36Reisenberg, and it's well worth checking out.
- 17:38For my modern mazurka cycle, I chose Garrick
- 17:42Olson's recordings when I put my recommendations
- 17:45together for the Chopin podcast with Ben Laude,
- 17:49and I stand by that recommendation. But for the
- 17:53purpose of this podcast episode, I have another
- 17:57modern recommendation. I absolutely adore the
- 18:01spontaneity and elan and the sheer joy in music
- 18:05making that comes across in the mazurka cycle
- 18:07issued on the Centaur label featuring the late,
- 18:11great Brazilian pianist Antonio Barbosa. And
- 18:16these recordings should be heard by... anyone
- 18:19who loves the Mazurkas, and that means all Chopin
- 18:22lovers. And last but not least, the Polonaises.
- 18:27And yes, here's the man you've been waiting for.
- 18:31Drumroll. My historic choice, Arthur Rubinstein.
- 18:36But not his versions on 78s, but rather his early
- 18:411950s mono -LP remakes. Because they have all
- 18:46of the swing and the verve of the 78 RPM versions,
- 18:51but with... a little more meticulous attention
- 18:53to detail. And my modern version of the Polonaises
- 18:58still remains the one by Maurizio Polini. Those
- 19:02who think of Polini as a cold, mechanical, aloof
- 19:06player will be totally surprised by the verve
- 19:10and centeredness and imaginative phrasings that
- 19:14he brings to this repertoire. This is a real
- 19:17surprise and it remains a real keeper. So those
- 19:21are recommendations on my ideal major Chopin
- 19:26works list. And I've put in links to find these
- 19:31recordings where you can hear them or where you
- 19:34can purchase them. And I wish you happy listening
- 19:38as we anticipate the final verdict and who will
- 19:43be the... top three winners of the 19th International
- 19:47Chopin Competition here in Warsaw. This is Jed
- 19:51Disler, and you've been listening to The Piano
- 19:54Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano recordings.
- 19:59Until next time, take good care, and I look forward
- 20:04to being with you for our next episode.