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Hugged at Madison Seminary · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, welcome Trap Souls.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: I am Ryan.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm here with Mark.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: He says.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hi! Hi.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: And Sammy.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_01: Hi.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: My niece.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we went to Madison last week.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: So last week.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: It was a week or two.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Two weeks ago.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Time fly.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, last week was New Year's, so it was the week before.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: So two weeks ago.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: So we talked about it.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: How I wanted to go back in the winter because we went there last February and it was cold and we had a lot of activity.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to go back and see if that's what the reason was.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: The cold.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because the two times in between, not much happened.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit here and there.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think as we'll talk about our experiences there in the beginning.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I went there with my daughter earlier than anybody else.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: Not much going on.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: We did the attic, the back rooms, Sarah's room, then everybody started showing up.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Listen to all the EVPs.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing really happened.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Again, those back rooms in the attic.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Got some feelings on that.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: I did, and I'm pretty upset about it.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: No?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: Spooky.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: Spooky.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so what was it talking about?
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I did go over to when we were doing the doctor's office, we were there just asking questions, and I'll stand in the doorway.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'll show you guys the video sometime.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: Not right now.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I was like, everybody says don't stand in the doorway because it's bad.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you can get pulled in and you get pulled out.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I stood in the doorway because that's me.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: As I was filming toward the doctor's chair, this black shadow came across behind the chair.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: Saw it on my camera.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: This is the third time this has happened.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it's none.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of shadow people out there, show yourself.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: You couldn't get it on the camera.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing on the camera.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's the third time it's happened.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen it on the video screen, and when I go over it, there's nothing there.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I wonder if others have the same issue.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: If you have the same issue, drop us a message.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully you don't, because it pisses me off.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Besides that, we went to Sarah's room.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows starting to know how I feel about Sarah's room.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's fake.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it's there, but nothing ever happens in Sarah's room.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, some nice stuff happens, like a tap on a chair or some EMF detection, but besides that, there's really nothing in Sarah's room.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody got there, so we'll let Sammy going a little bit.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: So Sammy joined us because she's never done a paranormal investigation before.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: She wanted to, so that's why we do medicine.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Get new people there.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: Reach Brother King, Daniel, same thing, never done one before.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I asked Sammy, you know, throughout the night, why do you want to do this?
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: There's always uh always a reason, right?
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Had experience when I was a kid, you know, saw a ghost, whatever.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: Sammy, nothing.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, I had no experience.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: Did that change?
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we'll we'll get to your story a little bit.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, something happened to you.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: Did you bring something with you?
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: And my phone.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's my phone.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah's here.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, quit messing with our phone and go hit the REM pod up there and let us know that you're here.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's on.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: They don't want us to talk about this.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: They don't.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_04: So Sammy had an experience.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_04: So he's going to discuss later.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'll lead up to it.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_04: So what you and Daniel went out.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_04: So me and Daniel, my brother, it was his first investigation, he came into with us.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_04: Didn't tell him anything about the building.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_04: He kind of discussed it in our last podcast that we had.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_04: Wanted to take him to the attic, took him up there.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_04: I've had some experiences up there the last time we went in October, where we heard noise in the back left side in the far room.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_04: Heard noises scratching everything.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_04: We went in there three times, and at the last time he stated, Man, I don't know what it is, but this room just seems so calm.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_04: And I was really kind of creeped out by that because my experience was not calming in there at all.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_04: And I think Rit and Bird would attest to that last time we were there.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_04: But then when activities happened later in the night, it kind of made sense for him.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_04: We'll go into that later.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_04: But uh a couple orbs we saw up in the attic in the doctor's room and then the room on the side of it.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_04: And I discussed it in the videos, and I don't know if uh the videos that we have are gonna go up that we recorded, but I even told Daniel, you know, an orb went towards you, but a lot of times we think that that's bugs or dust, um, so we don't usually go for orb activity, but I just put it out there in case we did use it so that it was identified in the video.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, we didn't have we didn't have much activity until about midnight.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_04: And then uh we could go in that experience um whenever we want to, but Sammy was there for that.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_04: Daniel, we had some activity at midnight, and then it kind of ramped up from there.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because you, Sammy and Daniel, what just you three, right?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so they went first, they left and went in the Civil War building to try to figure things out together.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_04: And then when they came back, we went to the seminary side.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was thinking I was just was I doing my solo.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_04: You were in doing your solo, then you met with us at Sarah's room.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was uh it was an interesting night because we had another group there, Savage Energy.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: They kind of did their own thing with Aaron and Craig, and we kind of just stayed together.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's ten of us there, so we try to split up.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they had activity, then we weren't, so when they had activity, we went there to see if we can you know duplicate what they had.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it was pretty mellow.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Where we were Civil War supposed to be active now.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: It never has been for me, ever.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: Eight times.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: Never got anything in Civil War building.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: And still nothing after eight times.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_04: Sammy, you went in there with Savage Energy.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_04: Did you feel anything when you were with them?
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was pretty much the same as it was the whole time.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: So Sammy, like prior to going to Madison, you know, I always say your the best tool you have is yourself.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: You get that feeling.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever had that feeling before, like something's there?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I get it like a lot.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I was just I was just wondering, because some people are like, I feel nothing.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like you feel something now, Ryan?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: Angry.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_04: Angry.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_03: Is your battery low?
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's okay.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_03: There's any batteries in that.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing that would be attached that has batteries that would be low?
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_03: Sammy's a portal.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: She feels things.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so like when did you first think you like always feel stuff around you?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like you don't always feel stuff around you, but where's one place I besides Madison that you don't like going?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um it was when my grandma still lived in Kirtlin, her house in Kirtland.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: There were many parts of that house I couldn't stand going alone in.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because I felt like the feeling of being watched.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we always talk about EMF.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Hi EMF, you know.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_04: Was that was that before she passed or when she was still alive still?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, oh, okay, so it's the house.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: No, she moved to Madison.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Did she move because it was haunted to no other reasons?
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_04: We actually did a podcast, uh, what, the last one we and you did, where we talked about home hauntings and poltergeists and stuff.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_04: So that's kind of why I asked you on that.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_04: Wanted to see if it was maybe a family haunting like we spoke of before.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_04: I mean it could have been.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: But who knows?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: We'll never know.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_04: Do you feel the same feeling in our new house?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, because I know sometimes it travels with people.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_04: That would suck that would suck.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's some people out there on Facebook that you know, I put up, you know, what was your most I don't know what how I worded it, haunting experience this year, 2024.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of responses, like a couple hundred responses, and one person said it.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: For the last you know, four or five years, they've been moving, and it just keeps ramping up every place they move.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, doubt it's the house.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Something with you.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's gotta be attached to them, or maybe something that they're traveling with their home with, like a piece of uh furniture or something.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe they got it at an auction or yeah, sell everything and just move.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, nomads just done.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: Start over.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, go live in a tent in the woods and see if it's so hard.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so besides that, I don't know where even where I'm going with this shit.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_04: So Sammy's experiences outside of Madison, so yeah, she already said that.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_04: We're done with that.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_04: That's over.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_04: That was that quick.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks, Sammy.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: That's been our podcast today.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Madison was slow for me.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we got we'll get to Sammy's, and that kind of ramped everything up, and pretty much after that everybody left.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was just me, you and Daniel going at it.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_04: So I'll I'll jump in then if to put some filler in here.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so when me, Daniel, and Sammy went together, we went, we were actually going to the third floor.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_04: We wanted to go up to Sarah's room and do another investigation up there because we'd done three investigations there so far that night and we didn't receive anything.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the other group, uh, Savage Energy, said that there was a lot of activity up there.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_04: They had some different experiences that I'll let them speak on in their own podcast.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: I won't put anything out there that's, you know, their group related.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_04: But we went to the third floor, but we actually went to the second floor instead.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: And we just went into one of the offices to uh do a little investigation in there before going to Sarah's room.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: And it was the old police station portion.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_04: And I took my my my dad mentioned that he was arrested there and tied to another radiator, so took a picture with my brother next to that making jokes about things.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, we set up in a big room, um, put the REM pod up in the double doorway, and then we put a cat ball in the single doorway.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, I was trying to get a campcorder to work, and I just recorded for about a half an hour with this camcorder before, and as I turned it on, I couldn't get it to record, and the picture flipped upside down.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_04: So I was trying to figure it out.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_04: I couldn't figure it out.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_04: It looked really stupid, and I was trying to mess with it, and uh I was like, well, we should be getting some activity because it's about to hit midnight.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_04: And right when I said midnight, I know that's cliche, and I said it on the last uh podcast, but the REM pod started going off and then the cat ball started to go off.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_04: Did it not?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: It did.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so it started going crazy on both ends, and I'm sitting there trying to get the camcorders, and I'm trying to flip the camcorder upside down so I could try to get anything I can, and uh I gave up on the camp quarter, but we we had activity when we were asking it questions for probably what, 10 minutes, probably.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, too.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_04: And then we were concerned because a lot of time, as you guys know, that do these, if you move the cat ball to another location, maybe it's not getting as much uh you know, wiggle or whatever the case may be, so you can kind of disprove it.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_04: And we moved the cat ball a little bit, and I think it hit a couple times, but not as serious as it was before.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_04: But you pointed out in the audio that the REM pod, when it was going off, it was only doing um the red light and the noise.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't doing the yellow and the green, so I don't know what that means.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's the closer you get to it.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_04: And I think the blue's a temperature change.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_04: So there was something with the lights and the colors that were different, but then by the end of the activity, and we kind of started just bullshitting between the three of us about other things, and then the REM pod and the ball, the cat ball stopped going off, and we just talked for another five, ten minutes about nothing at all related to them, and we were making jokes that we didn't care about them anymore, so they didn't care about us, so they went away.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_04: And that's when we went to Sarah's room and we started prepping the room up.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_04: And right when we started prepping the room up, Ryan came in.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't know if you want to lead into the what we were doing over there.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'll touch what you were, because we started up in the offices a little bit, and I had the REM pod and the cat ball outside the office door, okay, close to where you guys were, and the REM pod was going off, and the cat ball went off, and we tried to debunk it, like stepping around the cat ball, nothing.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: What's a one-off, then we go back and ask questions, and the cat ball will go off again.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: So as I said before, like in my other podcast, my REM pod does not go off.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like three times in how many investigations I've done, yeah, it's gone off.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: But in Madison, it was going off.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: So there is something there, obviously.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: It is certified haunted.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Certified.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: If anybody knows what that actually means, let us know.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm on a plaque.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: I want my podcast to be certified haunted.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Certified haunted podcast.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: With merch.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: With merch.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: With water.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Water merch.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: Water merch.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so yeah, we went up to the Sarah's room.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: I met them at Sarah's room.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: I did some solos in the attic, went to the back room.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: About 40 minutes back there between the two.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Then I went down because I wanted to do across from Sarah's room, like we talked about before, is a lot of people think there's something across from Sarah's room.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to go over there and have them go into Sarah's room, see if I get a connection.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was trying to tell her to go across the hall, mess with them, do whatever, hit the REM pod.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, I listened to audio.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all I heard was Mark talking and messing with the video camera.
• 14:27
  unknown: Beep, beep, beep.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'm really good with the video camera.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_04: You'll you guys will see that.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_04: Very good at talking a lot.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_04: Good at that too.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_04: So there's gonna be some training coming later.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm good for podcasts.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good filler.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: But we got nothing.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there was no EVPs, nothing with the two.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if they're connected or maybe they just didn't want to talk to us.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: No idea.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_04: To be fair though, you know, with what you just said, I noticed like when we were doing our investigation upstairs when we first started, me and Dana were doing the attic rooms and you guys were doing the general area.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_04: And everything you guys did over there was impeding on what we were doing on.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: Do you hear it outside of the headphones?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: What is going on here?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: Sammy's haunted.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_04: Sammy's haunted.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Apparently.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_04: But like I was saying, um, when we were doing the attic stuff, like you guys were in the other room, and when we were trying to ask questions and try to get recordings, we could hear you guys using the ghost box and the spirit box and all that stuff, whichever you want to call it.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so I think, like when you were doing the room across from Sarah's room, I'm we're gonna ask questions, try to get our investigation.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that hurts your investigation on the room next door because you can hear what I really want to do is have Teen go up there, sit in one room, whatever one room it is, and let's go to the other one and do Estes with her.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: In separate rooms.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: In separate rooms, that'd be good.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: But she left us.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's why she's not on the podcast because she left for personal reasons I don't agree with.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: But anyways.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, anyways.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't agree.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_04: I don't agree.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_04: Just in case they're watching this.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I that's why I want to.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Two separate rooms, yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll do that coming up next time.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: So she's she's probably the only one I trust with the Esther's method.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think when Sammy gets more into it that she can try it out.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_04: But other people not so much.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, everybody's got a different way and feels different things and sensitive subjects, so it's something we'll look into later.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'll look into it.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_04: But uh, so I did when we were doing um Sarah's room, I know you said you didn't get anything on your recordings, uh, we did get one, we did get a growl.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um so Daniel was laying on Sarah's bed and we were asking questions, and Daniel got to the point where he was having fun with it, and he was like, just just asking, is anybody have a problem with me laying in their bed?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_04: And he laughed, and then it went, err.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean it could be a growl.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_04: Might not.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: You'll have to review the footage.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because I my recorder's going at the same time.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I listened to all that, I didn't get anything.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's a I do have a few things, uh, one pretty decent one with Aaron's recording.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: But besides that, there was a couple like breaths.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: There's always breasts, maybe a little growl.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: I just kind of go past them now because we get so many sighs.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if it's like someone just breathing out of their nose or someone down the hall like it carries there.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_04: So the only thing was the reason, like, you know, I listened to a couple hours worth on mine.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's my first time deciphering my stuff, and uh the only reason I caught it was because it was like, you know, normal talking, everything's normal.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_04: And he asked that question, and then it was like a weird silence and a growl and a weird silence.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_04: It was very different than anything else in the room.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you gotta look at when you're looking at those.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like mine has little wave marks.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Then usually, like even Sarah's EVP that got on hers, there's no wavemar.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: It just set it.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: So usually it's like a very small wave mark.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: If there is something, ours are like pretty high up.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how you tell the difference.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Mine's a very cheap recorder.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Cheap records are fine.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'll download on my software and we'll get to it.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that was all we we got in there.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you didn't feel anything in there.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_04: We were testing if the ball was rolling and the you know the floor is uneven in there, so that really disproved anything that we've kind of heard or seen.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_04: And then after we left Sarah's rooms when we went upstairs, and that kind of leads us right into almost the live action almost.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: Me, you and Sarah went to the attic, right?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: In the beginning, yeah.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we went to the attic.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to mention this.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: The video will be out sooner or later whenever I get to it.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: But we did get some.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: I had the PS device, per script device, and nothing real like that thing's weird.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it has to make sense for it to be real, but we did get like FAR.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Then we got building.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Then like then we're like, well, Civil War building?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you talking about?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's an Adam.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that was when we were with Craig in the office.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, that was upstairs in the attic.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: It was me and Sarah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that it was like Adam.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Adam owns Madison.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: And he was in the outbuilding washing dishes.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was in the beginning when me and Dana were in the other side of the attic.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_04: I remember you coming over saying you caught that.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I mean it was kind of interesting, like that made sense far then it came back building.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Adam, sorry, not attic.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Adam.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Then it said nerd.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Adam.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: If you're ever watching, sorry.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: We don't find you a nerd, Adam.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_04: A little bit.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: History nerd.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: History nerd.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Fair homo nerd.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: Paranormal.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's a good one.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: So.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: But that I mean that was interesting.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Those are like one of the few things that actually lined up.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, yeah, Adam's back there.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's our building.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean that was interesting.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll so Sammy did do um, so talk about your game.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_04: So you played a game for the first time, which was really interesting.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_04: So let's talk about that.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_04: So everybody knows I love playing games.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_04: He's a very uh happy, fun-loving game type of guy, Ryan is.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: So we did like it wasn't beer pong, so we weren't drinking beer because now I drink during investigations.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: If I set up like a beer pong, I had numbers on every single solo cup.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I had a list.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: So no one knew I cheated, say right next to it.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: You get to throw a ball in, you have to win merch.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: Merch.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you want merch.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: So some said gift, so you got to pick what you want, a shirt or some merch, you know, cups.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Others, not so lucky, solo.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: I had attic, attic back room, stairs room, office, yeah, and then the grave room.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna give Sammy some credit here.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: After I say this, is that she got attic, the general room, right?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Then I think Aaron got something, April got something.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: No, they they went together.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I'll get to that.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh April did get something.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody got some like solos, but like four solos going on.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: They wouldn't go.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, not say they wouldn't, but they were scared.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_04: I still hear it.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's the rap home?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: No shit.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's the REM pod.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, dude.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, let me try this back up.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_04: I thought maybe because we've never sat right under it before.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, spooky.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Talk about the edict and Sammy and shake those off.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_04: Anyways.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_04: So to be fair though, with what he's about to say is Ryan gave the opportunity because he's a fair man.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_04: He said you can do a solo or a duo.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_04: So you had the choice to take someone if you were uncomfortable where you were going.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: You get to pick.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody picked.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: I looked at Sammy.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: First time at Madison, like you're going to the attic.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's the creepier spot.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you want to take some shake?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, I'm good.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: So she goes up there.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Mark walked her up, make sure she was good, safe, get up there.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: And how was it up there for your solo?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's very like calming.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: I felt really safe up there.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that's good.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing happened either.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was very, very quiet.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Did you I mean I didn't record it, probably should have, but did you ask questions?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: I've had people do solos and just sit there.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: To be fair, me, Mark, Nikki, and you, the only ones that done solos.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: No one else will.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and and I was impressed because I went up there, because everybody started coming back from their solos, and I went up, I sat in the middle of the staircase between the third floor and the attic, and the Savage Energy uh personnel.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: I just wanted to make sure I got them to Sarah's room.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_04: So I sat in the middle in case you know she called and needed help upstairs, or if they called, needed help downstairs.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: So I stayed in the middle, and everybody was coming out, and she was just still sitting up there.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_04: So I went and checked on her and I went up the room.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, Are you still here?
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_04: I just turned, Yeah.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, Where?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_04: I couldn't see anything.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_04: And she was just sitting there on the chair and she was asked questions.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you had a cat ball or anything with you or whatever.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there was one.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Are you good?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_04: She's like, I can't feel my fingers.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_04: I said, Alright, let's go downstairs.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_04: So she was up there for half hour by herself.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I give her props.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Most people don't do it.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Most people won't do it.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's that bad, honestly.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: So the question is, and we'll get to your other experience.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Would you now do a solo in the back room?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't know.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, because you never had experience really before.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: And now that you had it, and I thought about this like the next day, like after I text you and make sure you're okay, and you took like three hours to answer me.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: We're like, is she dead?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: But I had a text your mom like you say.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, good?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like then finally you text me back.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I was impressed.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, yeah, I want to go back.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, but you know, after that experience, like, because you never had one before, would you go back to the back rooms and do a solo?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying you have to, I'm not telling you you have to.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just it's just a general question.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I'd do it solo.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: I would go back there, like to the back rooms again if I like had one of you guys with me, but I wouldn't go solo.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_04: And that's fair.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_04: I know like Daniel mentioned in the last podcast, he was like, I felt good all night, everything was fine.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, I felt calming.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, but after what happened to Sammy, he's like, I don't want to go back up there by myself again.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_04: I he's like, if you would ask me all night go do a solo anywhere in the building, I would have done it.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, after what happened to Sammy, I'm not going by myself.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, I don't know if it's the feeling right this moment if I'll do it again in the future, but right now I'll never go in the attic by myself again.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's hard to get over that fear.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's tough.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, even I have to convince myself sometimes.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, after Bel Air House, I'm like, sweet, hell fire, I'm jumping in.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I really don't care anymore.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: But before that, it's kind of like, you know, I like the fear.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: I like my chest tightening up by like going in and facing that fear.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people aren't like that.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like Sarah runs.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like her fear is talk and run.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_04: And she's tough.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_04: But when it comes to paranormal, if she can't see it, she can't, as she says, probably throw hands.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean you can't.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_04: Sarah, if you're gonna watch us, throw hands.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: The ghost's gonna catch a fade, Sarah.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, especially if I have the video camera on it.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: It'd go viral, trust me.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll get into Sammy's little experience.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_04: So before that, let's let me just put one more piece in.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I want to, because I'm sure you don't have a lot of stuff on it yet.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, maybe.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_04: So the only thing let's I'll touch on when Sammy left, we went and did the that room again.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_04: So we went to the second floor after Sammy left.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um we did a little investigation, me, Ryan, and Daniel, and we were asking questions in there.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_04: We put the REM pod out, put a cat ball out again, try to see if we could pick up more activity.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_04: It was really cold at this point, and uh we had some hits on the REM pod and the cat ball, but Ryan started doing uh the spirit box, and we didn't get much that we could pull out of it, and then I felt like something walked through the door on the side of me, and I looked over at it, and right when I looked at it, you looked at me and you said, Did you see something?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Something walked through the door, you said, Something's in the room.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Daniel heard something outside, yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: So he heard something.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: You looked over at the door, and that's when I felt that cold spot right next to me, and I was like, Oh, there's a cold spot, and I'm like, and you're like, something just walked in.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, it's freezing, like it was cold, anyways, but it was really cold, like just a spot this big, right?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: And you won't be able to see that audio, sorry, but about 12 inches, you know.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's then it just went away, then we didn't get that feeling again, right?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like it just walked through, yeah, and said, Hey, what's up?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it could have been residual, yeah.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Someone that walked there through the night.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: Could be so I recorded, I was audio recording all that, and I've got it for Ryan, he's gonna look into it further.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_04: But seven and a half minutes into our recording in that room, there was an unknown voice that you could hear almost two to three words on.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_04: And at first I thought maybe it was you whispering, but I was like, one, you don't ever really whisper.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you have a low voice, but it doesn't sound like a whisper, so I wasn't sure, so I wrote Ryan question mark next to it, and then a minute later at 826, there's another same voice, but it certainly wasn't you, and it was three to four words, and I was like, nope, so I crossed out your name next to the what I was writing down.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_04: So when you hear those, you'll have to use the headphones.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_04: But I think that'll be some good audio for this podcast.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: We got one good EVP with three Aaron's once I play it.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do another podcast coming up with all the evidence with Aaron, and then we'll go through all that, and there's a couple good things, but probably a short podcast because I was mad as that one.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's some stuff.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Can we now you're the man staring the camera?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_04: So do you do you want to play the audio first, then have her explain what happened, and we'll talk about it, or do you want to talk about it, then play it, or just talk through it and not play it?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_04: We'll play it.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: She can listen to it next time.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: So we went up, it was me, Mark, Sammy, and Daniel decided to go do the attic.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right after Sarah's room.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right after Sarah's room.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just go up.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was just there and I got some icky feelings up there.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, let's go up and see what we can do.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, my handheld recorder died, my video recorder died.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's why yeah.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it died, that's why I came down.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was dying, so I decided to come down there.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Then I'm like, well, we're here, and I don't want to climb four or flights of steps later.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: So let's just climb one flight.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: So we went up there, we went in the doctor's room first, really nothing.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Then we decided to go back into the back room and went back there, and I'm like, if you walk back, first third room on the right.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's where it nineties.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: So the room on the right is where I got my name a couple of times.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: I always felt bad in there.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the room you guys were gonna go into a little off, but never got really anything bad in there.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, well, how about me and Daniel go in this room and you two go in that room?
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great idea.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: And we sent the REM pod up, put a cat ball out, REM pod start going off.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I was stepping over it.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, well, maybe I'm just too close.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, I was like, oh, so that that's great.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_04: The REM pod's going off.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, but it's because you're probably stepping over it, huh?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_04: And you were like, no, you're like, you have to touch it.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, oh great, so it's ghosts.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: And you touch it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be clear.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, no, you don't have to touch it.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_04: You have to get close.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_04: And Ryan's, I was like, so it's ghosts.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_04: And Ryan walks in the room and he goes, Yeah, ghost, fuck you.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, oh.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_04: So then I stood over the the REM pod and I was like, okay, it's still going off, but nothing's changed.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_04: And that's when it yeah, led into So what happened?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: What happened?
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: The first time he walked into that room, what happened?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: That that time.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, like you guys were saying, we set up the REM pod, and then he like squatted over top of it, and I started laughing at him.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then I had felt like a hand on my shoulder, and my hair got lifted, and something like screamed in my ear.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Can't really explain it.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: You said you saw it.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: What is very, very scary.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Mark told me what he saw.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so what what I experienced with it, because like she mentioned, so we went up upstairs, we were setting up the REM pod and everything, and while we were setting up, Sammy was like, I don't feel comfortable anymore.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_04: She's like, I felt comfortable all night, and right now I just do not feel well.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like I feel uncomfortable.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it was like when we had first gone back up into the attic and I had walked towards like the back rooms, I had walked like whatever you want to call that, like the threshold or whatever.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: I walked over it and I was scared for the first time the entire night.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like I felt like there were a hundred eyes all around me.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was horrible.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you made that comment, and I was like, really?
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_04: Right now?
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_04: And Daniel was like, yeah, it's a little colder right now, so maybe that's why we're feeling a certain way, but we're alright.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_04: And you're like, yeah, I just don't feel good about that.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_04: You'll hear all this in the audio too.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_04: And set up the REM pod, like Ryan said, he stepped over it.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_04: He told it to go fuck itself, and then I stepped over it to see if it was making any movement, and it wasn't.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_04: I had my audio recorder in my hand because I was setting this up for being able to hear all this.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: And as I turned to go into the room where Sammy was at, so if you had the doorway here, Sammy was standing next to the door here.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_04: There was a small gap by the door, and I turned to her while I was over the REM pod to go around her to go in the room.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: And right when I went to go into the room, her hair lifted on this side by the door.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_04: There was a small gap.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_04: Her hair lifted slightly on the side, and she went, and she walked out of the room, and I said, Did something just touch you?
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_04: Did something touch you?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_04: And she's just like, uh-huh.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: It literally took like every word out of my mouth.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: I just didn't know how to react to it.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and so I listened back to all the audio, and it was within seconds.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we went to the attic 49 minute 49 minutes into the recording.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_04: 5.50, uh, Sammy said she was scared up there.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_04: And then 5144, the REM pod started going off in the attic.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_04: And then 52.01, Ryan said, fuck you.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_04: And then at 52.05, so four seconds later, there was a heavy breath where Sammy was at, and then Sammy freaks out.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_04: So like it all coordinated absolutely perfect.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_04: And we went in the room afterwards, and uh, Ryan and Dana were in that room.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_04: She was in the room, and she was just standing in the room like this.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, You're okay?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_04: And she's just like, she just shook her head, yeah.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I said, Are you okay?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_04: And she shook her head yeah, and I go, Do you need to go downstairs?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_04: And she's like, uh I'm like, okay.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, we'll go downstairs.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Ryan, we're gonna leave now.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, okay, we'll all leave and make sure she's okay.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_04: So it was a really intense experience.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't even know if the podcast and the video recording, like talking about it, even makes it seem as heavy as it was.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, I wasn't even the one that got breathed on or my hair lifted or anything.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't have any hair to lift, but it was pretty messed up for someone that sat in that attic for 30 minutes by themselves.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's not like you were going up there to overreact and freak out.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it happened.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, you the way you explained to me, it looked, you said it sound felt like someone like put their arm around in their head like next to you.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: And like did a breath or a scream, whatever it was.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: That sucks for your first paranormal experience.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's a lot to take in.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: I've never had anybody breathing my I don't have hair, but tug or anything like for you to have that.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: But we talked about it on the one podcast.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: What were you talking about up to that that might have led to that?
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what was I asking while I was up there?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: No, like you were saying how you never had a paranormal experience.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, and you kept saying that.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you maybe possibly they're like, well, we're gonna give her one.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like show her what one is.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_04: And you said up to that point, I feel I feel really bad right now.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_04: Like Daniel mentioned that.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, she was fine until she said that, and then this happened.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_04: So maybe it was like that's enough energy for me to attach to to be able to get your attention.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_04: And you're sending my REM pod off.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and you're setting off here, so that's the first time we've done one of these with that REM pod going off.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's all good though.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's all good.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, yeah, rough first time experience, and you know, I was telling Rachel that, like, oh yeah, shit experience, and pretty bad one for your first time.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've seen shadow figures, I've heard both growls.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: Most of my experiences come from listening to EVPs.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not there, I'm sitting in this room listening to it.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: Or I mean I've seen shadow figures stare at me.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: But they to have that, that's that's a lot.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and there's no like you do the right thing, like get out.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's get out.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: Most people feel comfortable going outside.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: But just getting out of that area probably gonna help.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_04: So what was your what was your thoughts and uh feelings when you took yourself out of that room and you left shortly after because you just needed to decompress, and it was late anyways, but what were your thoughts going home when you got home?
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_04: How did you how did it all overall make you feel now that the REM pod's going off again, as I asked you that question?
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um put that thing down here.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_04: I believe that's that's not the one.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_04: It's the red.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's red.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's supposed to be red.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_04: Is it?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_04: It's not making the noise anymore.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, drop this.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: It goes off now then.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: I was pretty much just like confused.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: And like wasn't sure if it was actually real.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Or if I was just like putting it in my head.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's normal though.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a lot of most people do that.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, how was your drive home?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um I just I just turned on music and just focused on getting home.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was just trying to distract myself.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a lot.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, there, like, nothing's gonna attach to you.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they want to be there or they're stuck there for a reason.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, nothing's coming home with you.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing demonic is there.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if there was, I would have found it already, so I think I would have pissed it off already by that.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, you've done what, eight?
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: Eight, yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: That was my eight time there, so fourth, fourth time this year.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: So that's pretty much Madison.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's if we went up to a little bit of an office area.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: Then but we do have some big news.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: We have big news.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: We have big news.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what it is, but I'm assuming we have big news.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: You should know what it is.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_04: Is it the big trip of big news?
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_04: It is the big trip.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_04: So we talked about the big trip.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_04: I think I cut it out every podcast.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_04: You might.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, probably.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_04: You've been kind of secretive about it up till recently.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_04: Till recently, because anybody that goes in and does this is gonna be very lucky to be involved in the big trip.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so I can cut mark on this.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so we got big news.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um I talked about big trip coming up.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we finally got the dates, and I got one more place I had a book, but we are doing four places in four nights.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start post-town elementary down by Dayton, I think it is.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Around that area.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: Then we're going hopefully old college on Hospital Hill.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty freaky ass place.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Can't wait.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: I might go in there solo just in the beginning.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: You always do.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: You like that first door kick in.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get there when it's dark.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: Then we're going to Bel Air House and Ross House the last time.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna do we're gonna do four places four nights.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: And we got a big RV that sleeps like 12 people, but I don't have 12 friends, so we're not taking 12 people.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: But no, it should be a good time.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um gonna see doing four places, four nights.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: Post towns are supposed to be pretty active.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: Old hospitals pretty active.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then Bel Air.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that's pretty freaky.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Then Ross House seems pretty mellow, but active.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: Nice ghost depending on the day.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nice ghost.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll end there and then come home.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's pretty exciting.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_04: I've I've only gone to Madison and Ross with you guys, so it'll be exciting because I'm not gonna research the other places before I go.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm excited to see what what we'll run into.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'll be a good time.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um right now there's a few of us going.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sammy, you interested?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_04: She got the big dog invite and just insurred it right there.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's gonna be freaky.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'll go.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're playing games.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: All the games.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: With merch?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: With merch.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe just solos.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, nine 90-10.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I did say that I want to do solos, draw, and see who goes in the building first before anybody else.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: Probably won't do that because I can't get people to freaking do that.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to go in, volunteer.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: I want to go in an old hospital when it gets dark out and just walk in.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a hospital.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's big.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: I want to go in and see what's in there before anybody else goes in.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_04: We get the whole hospital?
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be huge.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's huge.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of solo potential.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of solo potential.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: It should be good times though.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, post town and old hospital I've always wanted to do.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: So might as well do it back to back.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm excited.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_04: And when are we uh planning on doing this trip?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_04: In June.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: June.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_04: June.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_04: So it won't be too hot.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_04: It'd be warm.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Be nice.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: Got a nice RV.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: We're actually gonna stay at a little RV park while we're at Bel Air Ross House.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because they're next to each other.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: We should figure out how we're getting from that to the houses.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: We'll figure it out.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm gonna.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: There might be a couple groups coming down.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's some people that do post house, and obviously they want to join us.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: Same with old hospital.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: There's a group of two down there.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: I know there's one group that always wanted to do it, so they might come down.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: They're from down south.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Southern Ohio, so they want to join us.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's always good to have different groups and different experiences, their techniques.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, Ross House we'll probably do ourselves.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's small.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: We don't want to have a ton of people in Ross.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: Bell Air House, probably.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: It depends how many people we have that are actually gonna go.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think Bird's gonna go meet us at Post Town because he couldn't get the week off.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: So he's gonna meet us at Post Town, then hopefully I can get a couple other people, part of our group, that can come down and meet us and do like Bel Air.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: I do want to keep small because it is a small house.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_04: And it's very active.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm excited to see I want to see Bel Air House because you guys keep talking up Bel Air, and I really want to feel it because there had something better happened the way you guys keep talking about it.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know until you're there.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's something like Ross House is active now.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of people on Facebook are saying all this stuff is happening.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: We fell asleep.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we didn't.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_04: Some some members may have dozed a bit.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: The girls were sawing logs down there when I was trying to do my solo.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: All I hear is that's terrible.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was a ghost coming at me.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_04: But that that just goes to show that anything can happen differently at different nights, right?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_04: You could have a ton of experience, you might have no experience anywhere you go.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_04: That's like, you know, even the big shows that we watch, you know, we've been watching for 10-15 years.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_04: They go for two to three days and do investigations multiple days to see if they're getting the same results or different results.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_04: So it'll be interesting to see what what we hit on.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_04: And I think that's why you wanted to do Madison a few times this year.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I did.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of mic time, probably in the RV.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're gonna do a lot of podcasts through there, and we're gonna drink a lot of bourbon and bourbon and beef jerky.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's all you need.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's all we're taking.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: Water, Sammy.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_04: Sammy'll have water.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: Water and beef jerky.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_04: So, Sammy, one last thing I'd like to get on the podcast from you at least is what was your experience the first time you've done it?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, what do you have to say about your experience to anybody that'd be looking to go on their first experience?
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's hard.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: Should they?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_00: Anybody that's interested in paranormal, should they go do it?
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: If they feel like they could get something, yeah.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's you never know until you go do it.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, some people go there and hate it.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't had anybody yet.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: So as a group, I mean, because this is what our group is based off of, is bringing people in that never done it, you know, did we do a good job?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think so, yeah.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I mean we do have some knowledge.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're not like huge veterans.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've done this 20 years.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: And we got a lot of good tools to go about it.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: So if you do want to go on investigation, you know, drop us something and on Facebook and we'll try to get you there.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_04: Or if you need help, like Ryan's Ryan's had a few people reach out to him that maybe want to do something personal because they have something going on at their home or something, reach out to him.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he's a he's a big vet of this and he has a lot of equipment.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_04: He might be able to just point you in the right direction of maybe what it could be causing the issue, maybe not, and then he could probably help you if you absolutely need it.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and there's I know a few people out there that if I don't know what's going on, I'm not gonna BS you.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I will lead you to someone that knows what's going on.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like Native American stuff and all that stuff.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really mean I'll deal with it, but I don't know how to, you know, help you with that.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I'll degenerate direction with contacts and get it done.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, no one should be scared in their own house.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 46:36
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