Latest / The Whitfield Report / TWR Saturday | A Conversation with Author and Podcaster Jack Pierce
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- 0:07Now broadcasting from the next-gen conservative studio in
- 0:11Sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics
- 0:15current events and pop culture. This is he's the Whitfield
- 0:19Report with Sam Whitfield. Alrighty folks, welcome to this
- 0:35very special Saturday edition of the Whitfield report.
- 0:41I'm free recording this partially because both OBS and
- 0:49beam Labs will and Discord are having audio issues.
- 0:53But you know, that's here nor there.
- 0:56But anyway, my guest for this episode of the Paw Podcast is
- 1:04Falco punch 64 AKA Jack Pierce and Jack has actually been on
- 1:13the podcast before he came on back in early October 20 21 for
- 1:21Segment. But his episode was scrubbed
- 1:27because later on I played a project veritas Us quip that
- 1:32evidently Mama. Susan, decided to scrub,
- 1:36anystream relating to that. That had a clip in it.
- 1:42And even when I try to up, to just re-upload his segment to
- 1:46YouTube, for whatever reason, because it was in that stream,
- 1:51YouTube still decided not to, you know, just to take it down.
- 1:56So with that in mind, I wanted to allow Jack to come back on
- 2:00and You know just kind of reintroduce himself to the
- 2:05audience and also Jack since we've last spoken you yourself
- 2:09have started to show. So first off, welcome to the
- 2:13program sir. Thanks for having me.
- 2:17So first off, how did your an author and that's kind of I
- 2:27wouldn't say super unusual but kind of in this Spear of the
- 2:31internet you usually get a lot of Gamers and just like internet
- 2:36Personalities in general. But what I guess, man.
- 2:41What caused you to seek out becoming an author?
- 2:44That's always very fascinating to me.
- 2:47Well, I couldn't make movies had didn't have the money, or the
- 2:50budget, or the talent or any of that stuff.
- 2:54So, I mean books were a lot easier for me, really?
- 2:57And I've expanded quite a bit in my way of writing and
- 3:02everything, but me, I just wrote a few bull hooks here and there,
- 3:06like they're supposed to be radio dramas.
- 3:07Like there's going to be one of the night and I'm I'm starting
- 3:09to do those now, it's like just a little side.
- 3:12Like if I don't feel like doing a full three or four-hour show,
- 3:15I'll just like screw it and just throw up one of the books, you
- 3:18know, just as a placeholder basically on a night and like
- 3:23tonight and for some reason, one of my books condemned that at
- 3:29that was going to maybe get 10 views because it's not you know
- 3:32Ethan Ralph contents or drama or anything.
- 3:35It dependently is like 600 views on it which I'm just like oh my
- 3:40Well, I hope I hope they enjoyed it because nobody's commented.
- 3:43But that's also good because they might try to spoil the
- 3:46ending to so yeah. So that's the way I stated since
- 3:51they're not saying anything. Maybe they're just don't want to
- 3:53spoil the ending so that's good. But they did.
- 3:57I'll just delete the comment anyway but overall it's just I
- 4:00just wanted to create stuff and that was just one of the Avenues
- 4:06of doing it. That was the cheapest, easiest
- 4:08and most accessible. Awful way to actually do this
- 4:11sort of stuff and it's worked out pretty well.
- 4:16Yeah, and one thing I also you and I have talked about author,
- 4:20one thing I know that you have kind of revealed recently to is
- 4:25that you actually have your own publishing company to, which is
- 4:31interesting. Yeah, I was with the traditional
- 4:35publisher for the first thing, 10 books.
- 4:39And then when I wanted to release Kay's away, I broke off
- 4:44and made my own. Company after that and took, you
- 4:46know, bought the rights and, you know, of all the books than one
- 4:50lump sum and just exited the company and that was it.
- 4:53You know, I wanted to have more control over everything and, you
- 4:56know, more than money and all that.
- 4:58So that happened. But sir soon as since then, you
- 5:04know, then well I mean the term self-publishing is such like is
- 5:10such a catch-all now with the with the internet but like I
- 5:14guess, How would you really Define yourself?
- 5:18Like, are you a publisher or you more more like an author?
- 5:22Like, what do you see, kind of your role in that whole thing?
- 5:29That's see, myself is basically an author that self-publish has
- 5:34now but used to traditionally publish otherwise until I, you
- 5:39know, decided I wanted you just handle the rest of the work
- 5:43myself, you know? Some both, you know, both
- 5:47traditional and self-publish, just depending on what area
- 5:52you're talking about everything. Okay, in a way before is
- 5:55traditional and then everything after itself.
- 5:58So yeah. And how long have you also been
- 6:03online? Because you and I have both kind
- 6:06of. I'm surprised we didn't cross
- 6:09paths earlier because you and I have both been online for like
- 6:14quite some. Not I mean I I've been active
- 6:16since about 2008 and I think you've said the same thing.
- 6:20He'd tube. Yeah.
- 6:21YouTube. Yeah.
- 6:22Okay. Were you were you
- 6:25self-publishing like before you writing books before that?
- 6:28Or yeah, but there were nowhere near as long or intricate or
- 6:33good. I just the crazies.
- 6:35I wish I had some of my, my older books because I would love
- 6:39to see how my writing is evolved from like, you know, when I was
- 6:4115 to now but I have nothing. I mean, you know, the latest
- 6:44book that Have is under Morningstar, really?
- 6:48That's like the earliest one I have.
- 6:49And that was my biggest seller so it's like I didn't have
- 6:53anything to go off of. I used to write like this and
- 6:56now I write like this. So it's basically I've just
- 6:58started over entirely in 2018, you know, because I was a
- 7:03YouTuber for shit. I don't know what 20 2008 to
- 7:082018 10 years. Then I quit for almost four
- 7:13years and now just come back. So, I don't want to say that
- 7:16I've been a YouTuber for 14 years because I haven't been one
- 7:20straight but I've been in the sphere for 14 years.
- 7:24Yeah I mean I mean that's how I've been kind of been in the
- 7:27podcasting spear for 14 years, my myself, I actually just
- 7:33celebrated 14 years of podcasting back in March and
- 7:38that is one thing I want to ask about how has the YouTube sphere
- 7:41kind of, I guess, changed in your Our mind from then 22 now,
- 7:53both positive and negative. I guess I think this is the best
- 7:58time to be a YouTuber and there was no other period in YouTube
- 8:03history. That would be better than now
- 8:07because it's a lot of people try to look back at Nostalgia of.
- 8:10Oh remember the concert from 2008 and 2010?
- 8:13I agree. I love old.
- 8:15Old YouTube, I do. But the thing is, you know, that
- 8:18was 10 years ago over 10 years ago now and that stuff is still
- 8:23there but there's all the stuff that's happened since then you
- 8:27know you can still watch 2008-2010, you know, style
- 8:32content know like the rant reviewers and all of that stuff
- 8:35still exists. You know, the like I guess we'll
- 8:38be called podcast. Now I don't think they really
- 8:40called it podcast back. Then did they wanted to go start
- 8:42going to podcast? Well, Okay.
- 8:46So this is kind of, you know, kind of bringing my history.
- 8:52So I started listening to podcast when I was like, oh like
- 8:5712 or like 13 back in like 2007 because a friend of mine had a
- 9:07or like a family friend of mine, had had a head like a comic book
- 9:12shop and this was before like this was like right before The
- 9:15MCU and in the Marvel movies became like a thing because I'm
- 9:20also and I think I told you this but like I'm a comic book
- 9:24collector and what not to like even before the Marvel movies
- 9:28became like huge. I've always been into Comics.
- 9:31So like comic books were like one of like the first I guess
- 9:36things like kind became big and podcasting.
- 9:40And like I remember like a friend of mine got like, one of
- 9:45these. Will be whoops.
- 9:46An account and start drawing, I comic books and it didn't really
- 9:49go very far because like no one really knew a podcast and was I
- 9:54started my in like 2008, just like basically talking to myself
- 9:59in a room and it's what we all do at this point.
- 10:04Yeah. Selves in the room for the most
- 10:06part. Well, but I mean like, you know,
- 10:08back then like now we have like, you know, live chats like that's
- 10:13your yeah, you know, like people.
- 10:15Could interact like back then, like you were basically just
- 10:19like, you basically have to like, pretend that you were, you
- 10:22know, talking to someone. Yeah.
- 10:25And like I remember back in the early days of like podcasting
- 10:29and I mean, I guess same thing with like YouTube, like the
- 10:32analytics just weren't there so like you could You could, you
- 10:40know, I put something out there and in the last anyone like
- 10:43pings you on Facebook or anything, you know, which was
- 10:47like, you know, super early Facebook, like you always never
- 10:50got feedback, right? I like it was very kind like a
- 10:54coat closed circuit, so that was kind of how podcasting was.
- 11:01And I mean back then, like, you know, people in their knit row,
- 11:05I have smartphones, I they're so alike.
- 11:08I would always like download like five or ten podcasts on my
- 11:11actual iPod back in the day and then like I'd swap them out like
- 11:16every week or so. But then I think like live
- 11:21streaming they didn't really like become a thing until like,
- 11:252014. So, but yeah, so I mean, I would
- 11:35kind of agree that the same thing with podcasting is kind of
- 11:38the same deal with YouTube, to be honest. so, And I mean you've
- 11:49also done a few podcasts yourself.
- 11:50I know when we first met you were doing it at are tracks
- 11:54podcast, it's coming back. Yeah.
- 11:56Oh okay. So you are bringing that back
- 11:58then. Yes.
- 12:00And then now you do you. Well, you do Falco, punch 64.
- 12:07I like to call it blood sports for dummies.
- 12:10That's kind of what? I that's kind of I've called
- 12:14your show. I'll take that, I'll take that.
- 12:19Testimonial. So here's kind of the, I guess
- 12:23the first like big question. I have which is Jack using like,
- 12:27a you seem like a really nice guy, so how so no offense.
- 12:31How the fuck did you get mixed up in this shit ass crazy corner
- 12:36of the internet? No, not without going too far
- 12:39into my previous drama, my previous personas that I've
- 12:43tried to move my distance myself from Over the, you know, since
- 12:47you're happy. And all like four years ago,
- 12:51it's last time. I I kind of dodged bloodsports
- 12:53entirely actually see I was so did I uh did a lot of like the
- 12:58ante sjw stuff from like 2015 to 2018.
- 13:02And then I just realized I'm doing here.
- 13:05I just my life situation changed, so drastically that it
- 13:09just wasn't feasible and it wasn't, you know, mentally.
- 13:14Well for me to stay doing that sort of Know whatever.
- 13:18But you know I just said, fuck it.
- 13:20And does that is quit, you know after whatever amount of time,
- 13:22we just quit YouTube and I just said, I want to be an author
- 13:25because an author, I'm a lot better at writing than I am
- 13:29speaking. I know that for sure.
- 13:31Especially when I hear audio book readers read it back.
- 13:34It sounds so much better than when I speak off the cuff.
- 13:37You know what I mean? So it's like, I feel like I'm a
- 13:39lot better writer than I am speaker and I just decided, you
- 13:43know, I wanted to bring back radio dramas Is what happened in
- 13:482018 and that's what I'm doing. Now, with Terror tracts
- 13:51basically is you know, kind of using my audiobooks with some
- 13:55effects here and there and like you know, they perform the
- 13:57different voices and stuff of course on their own because it's
- 14:00an audiobook. So comes out almost like a
- 14:02little radio drama sort of thing and you know I'm trying to bring
- 14:07that back nothing because the thing is popular but because
- 14:10that's just what I want to do is sort of like a passion project.
- 14:13I'd like the like cruel Creepypasta is the best way I
- 14:17can explain. My stuff is very, very long
- 14:20creepy pastas or as what it really is.
- 14:24The terror tracks thing enough. Yeah Creepypastas.
- 14:27Usually what like a thousand words.
- 14:28Maybe 1500 words are not that long but you know, I write
- 14:32novels and shit. But like have the same sort of
- 14:35voicing that a creepypasta would and that's what I'm kind of
- 14:39doing. And you know, the terror tracks
- 14:42thing was just my idea of I wanted to.
- 14:45I didn't know what I wanted to do it first with Tara tracks.
- 14:47I still don't because what I originally wanted to do, was
- 14:51teach people a writing lesson and then I would have an audio
- 14:55book, chapter play every week and then I had to, Are You
- 14:58Afraid of the Dark episode review?
- 15:01And then, when I finally looked at my analytics after, like, 30
- 15:04episodes, nobody watched, Are You Afraid of the Dark that no,
- 15:08nobody listened to the or even get ready for the darkness?
- 15:12It's okay, that's fine. I cut that out because that's
- 15:14like that's just extra effort for no fucking reason.
- 15:17No one's going to listen, if they're going to stop after the
- 15:20story, you know, whatever. But what ended up happening was
- 15:24I just, I don't know, I think I just decided to cut it down to
- 15:27Terror. Tracks is just to show where you
- 15:30listen to a new scary story every week, and that's what I
- 15:34wanted, you know, and whether it's just a chapter in one of my
- 15:37audio books is which it really has been.
- 15:39It's been under a Morning Star. I haven't scheduled all the way
- 15:42out to fucking a August right now, because of how long that
- 15:45book is. It's like 48.
- 15:47Chapters. So that's 48 weeks of
- 15:49programming but that books 450 Pages actually liked that book.
- 15:54That was my first one. I think is still my favorite but
- 15:58which is kind of hard to even say that you know it's like
- 16:01choosing your favorite child really right?
- 16:04I don't know, man. It's like the thing is like, by
- 16:06the time, I'm done editing a book, I hate that book and I
- 16:10never want to read that fucker. Look again, I think it's a piece
- 16:12of shit because of how hard I've worked on it.
- 16:14It like how much of a microscope and little tiny?
- 16:17Apple I've had to take to this. Every fucking sentence has to be
- 16:21sorry. If I can't say the f word on
- 16:23here you can Blake me but oh oh no.
- 16:26What the fuck are you talking about?
- 16:27We say, fuck here, all the time. That's I just worked so hard on
- 16:32the editing process that it just makes me hate whatever the book
- 16:36is and then like, you know, I'll listen to it.
- 16:38A few years later, like, I have recently.
- 16:40I'm just like, dude, this is this is great.
- 16:43I mean, I'm not trying to say, oh I'm so I'm Stephen King,
- 16:45right? Right?
- 16:46Like I'm a great. Adulterer and everybody should
- 16:49buy my shit. But when I listen back to it,
- 16:51it's like it's so much better than I was expecting it to be.
- 16:55Like, I'm expecting to hear a turn and then I hear something
- 16:58that I would have loved to listen to, you know, if someone
- 17:01else wrote it, you know what I mean?
- 17:03I'm like, because I don't remember any of these stories,
- 17:04two years later. And can't, I can't tell you who
- 17:07the hell, the main characters of any of my books are really at
- 17:10this point. I'm except for maybe under
- 17:12Morningstar and maybe the snow white murders, Sam wolf, and
- 17:19Whoever the hell else is with them in that book, I don't know.
- 17:23I think his cop friend Vincent's in it, but but I can't remember
- 17:27all these different characters because when you write something
- 17:30that bag, it's hard to keep up with it, but the fans, you know,
- 17:34of the book, they just really Zone in on it.
- 17:37And, you know, they can spot all the inconsistencies, and all of
- 17:41that. And that's even though we had
- 17:43our differences and we decided to stop working together.
- 17:45Lotus token from James crosses his real name on the books.
- 17:49He was my, what you would call a developmental editor here.
- 17:52Basically the guy that basically read all the stuff out, right?
- 17:56And basically saying know that his likes to produce, you know,
- 17:58like on the album when a bands like you know, the Bruce like
- 18:00no, I don't like that. I'm not going to do that.
- 18:03That's what he was. He was like, the yes/no guy.
- 18:06Like I would write something. I like that.
- 18:07They know, I don't like that. Why don't you try it this way?
- 18:10It's like, is that kind of guy. So, he was basically producer on
- 18:14all the, on the first ten books, except for K is a way.
- 18:17He wasn't involved in that at all and he wasn't involved in
- 18:20Nuke your brain either. So that's eight.
- 18:22Books heels on. Are you, are you one of those
- 18:27authors that like has all your books in like a in like a
- 18:31self-contained like universe or or or are all your books like
- 18:38individually like unrelated to They are in the same universe
- 18:44but at the same time they're unrelated there are cross over
- 18:50segments like you know, like one thing in the timeline or Castle
- 18:56is this city from under the Morning Star, which is like the
- 18:59big Silent Hill sort of situation that starts the entire
- 19:03series. You know, where the guy goes to
- 19:05the zom-- test, basically, like Silent Hill kind of thing and
- 19:09like and other books you are Here like someone grabs a
- 19:12newspaper, nor Castle murders, blah, blah, blah, you know but
- 19:14now be it, you know, but it'll tell you that they're connected
- 19:18but they're not in a way where you have to rebook 1234 like to
- 19:22understand anything. You know, you can grab any of
- 19:25them but they all do have references to other, you know,
- 19:28books and them. But it's like, like, a cameo in
- 19:32a movie, you know what I mean? It's not like a big plot Point
- 19:35Ryan, right, right. You have to read under
- 19:37Morningstar to understand, you know the Snow White murders but
- 19:40it might have a Of something that happened in the other book,
- 19:43like, you know, just like a random Cameo and that's, it was
- 19:47move on. But no, it should.
- 19:49I try to keep it all as separate as possible because I think of
- 19:54it this way, a lot of people get their books from like thrift
- 19:57stores and Goodwill and stuff like that much, it will
- 20:00inevitably end up there because all books do end up in those
- 20:03places. And I don't want someone to grab
- 20:05a jack Pierce. Now, I'm not saying I'm talking
- 20:07in third person, by the way, I don't want so, yeah, I'm trying.
- 20:11Me back up. I don't want to swim to buy one
- 20:13of my novels with my brand on it and be lost like oh I can't read
- 20:18this because I don't have the other ones, you know what I
- 20:20mean? I want them to just be honest
- 20:22and say, I like that. I like that idea.
- 20:25I'm going to go home and read this.
- 20:26And that's it, you know, because I know some people may not like
- 20:29dreamer. Some people may not like
- 20:31underwater starve, some people might not like, bring me a dream
- 20:34and they might love the suicide. Diaries me, you don't know what
- 20:37people are going to like, So it's like, right, just make it
- 20:42where they're all connected, where the people that do like,
- 20:45all the other books can enjoy those little references and shit
- 20:49to the other ones. But don't make it where you they
- 20:52have to you know, you're forcing them to read one.
- 20:54They really really hate to get to one of the really really like
- 20:58so your I mean, so your genre and I apologize, we probably
- 21:03should have established a surly. I mean you kind of Your genre is
- 21:09kind of in like the Horeb II would also kind of say, like
- 21:13mystery thriller is. Yeah.
- 21:16That's like the trilogy isn't as this more mystery, thriller all
- 21:20mixed up into one. I mean if you want to easy way
- 21:22to understand it under a Morning, Star was my first book
- 21:25and it's basically what happens if you took like Silent Hill
- 21:29like one and two, the video games and makes them with this
- 21:32sort of, take that sort of Take a look like a James Bond slash
- 21:39character, put him in Silent Hill and then give the story the
- 21:41structure of a Final Fantasy game, where it's like, you know,
- 21:44starts out small and one area, then it just keeps expanding
- 21:47until like this big Global Adventure.
- 21:49You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, like a
- 21:51whore. James Bond sort of thing is what
- 21:54under a Morning Star was, you know, like a psychologically
- 21:58fucked up Hellraiser, sort of thing, but like a bondish sort
- 22:03of, you know, like going through all of it.
- 22:07Yeah, well, I me die. I've written kind of been like
- 22:13the military Thriller John. I have I'm one short story that
- 22:17is kind of that's published. And I've actually thought like,
- 22:23maybe like, rebooting the franchise and like rewriting.
- 22:27The story all over again because there are some like political
- 22:31things that things that have happened in the real world that
- 22:34have kind like As with the with like the kind of the intention
- 22:39of the script like of kind of the story plan.
- 22:42I had a talent I lie. So I mean that's that's the
- 22:46other thing too is like you know like basing riding off like real
- 22:51world events, like hind find that is be challenging just
- 22:54because things change change like all the time.
- 22:58So covid completely ruin a couple of my books that were
- 23:03eventually going to be written because So, I wanted to write a
- 23:07series or at least have at least one book.
- 23:09There was about a terrorist organization that gets a hold of
- 23:12a virus and then, you know, basically holds the world
- 23:15hostage and it gets, you know, released or whatever and like
- 23:18viral bombs it. So like Syphon Filter, right,
- 23:21right. And then, but I was going to do
- 23:23it my way, you know, like my flavor of story, but I wanted to
- 23:27do sort of a Syphon Filter, sort of thing like that least the
- 23:30first three games could. The thing is people, for some
- 23:33reason, forget that those games had incredible.
- 23:36Boys. Oh my God.
- 23:37Syphon Filter was a great series for the for the story itself.
- 23:40Oh yeah. You know, I put it up there with
- 23:42metal gear solid and maybe it was so well written like you
- 23:44know those characters and just to enter overlapping thing like
- 23:49especially the first game I was just like, oh my God, I wish
- 23:51this was a book or a movie or something aim because it was so
- 23:57well. I love that sort of thing like
- 24:01they took like James Bond mission impossible, and like
- 24:05every action movie that was awesome and just gave it this
- 24:08amazing story along with it goes like this, just big thing that
- 24:13it was so good and the second one was great.
- 24:16In the third one was great and then the rest of them suck from
- 24:19what I understand, but they were just they were like some games
- 24:24back games back. When me, I don't know how old
- 24:26are you? You're in your 30s, aren't you?
- 24:27Hi, I'm, I'm 20, I'm 27. Like physically, P people always
- 24:34call me an old soul, so it's like, I'm 20.
- 24:36Remember the PlayStation era? I'm sure fuck.
- 24:39Yeah, dude, totally. Don't you have you noticed that
- 24:42most of the PlayStation era every game back then had
- 24:46incredible lead, like, deep stories and shit.
- 24:49You know what I mean? Like, all the jrpgs had these
- 24:53huge stories and then Soul Reaver which was just a 3D sort
- 24:57of Zelda thing heh. Like just big epic story that
- 25:00went across all the legacy of Kain games in Syphon Filter had
- 25:04a big story in Metal Gear. Solid had the chance or they
- 25:07could be like fucking five thousand Pages, Mad, Max.
- 25:11Max Payne back in the day away. Exactly.
- 25:13All the like this. Every game back then was like,
- 25:18head, like a novel worth of story.
- 25:20Like, you know, head like a fat thousand page novel, basically
- 25:23written. Yeah.
- 25:25Well, will it and I mean not to go off on a tangent.
- 25:29Like one of the things that I like that, I like roundabout is,
- 25:31like, I don't want is how I can. I don't want to sound like a
- 25:34square, but like, I, I kind of like, stopped playing, like,
- 25:38video games, like, around, like, 2013, 2014, parsley.
- 25:42Because, like, when everything like started to become like
- 25:46multiplayer, everything like like, yeah, I get it.
- 25:51But like, but like to me, like, I play video games personally,
- 25:56like for the same reason why people like like to watch
- 25:59movies. Like, I like to get lost in in
- 26:02like a story and uni, like, with everything being like
- 26:06multiplayer. Like, you know, it's just, it's
- 26:10not the same necessarily. So I remember the old Call of
- 26:15Duty's games have really good stories.
- 26:17Like, oh yeah, like all the stuff like pre multiplayer.
- 26:22Like we're talking about, like, finest hour and like, you know,
- 26:24when they were basically a medal of honor clone, you know, until
- 26:27they got into modern Fair. And, you know, World at War and
- 26:31all of that which took think they probably have decent
- 26:33stories to. But for some reason, it just say
- 26:35Medal of Honor was a good story. Driven game to the first two
- 26:38games were even if they weren't the greatest gameplay.
- 26:41They did have a fun sort of WWII atmosphere and story going on.
- 26:46I like that good. The bad the bad and our comes
- 26:51the Batman Arkham series actually had a pretty good you
- 26:54know I mean I know it's I know it's Batman and I know not ones
- 26:58and Superheroes. But like there are some
- 27:01genuinely, you know, good story lines out of that Series so I
- 27:06couldn't get into the games and I'm the biggest Batman fan.
- 27:09Probably on Earth, I love Batman, I love the movies.
- 27:12I love the animated series of love all those, you know things.
- 27:16And for some reason, it's just a gameplay.
- 27:18Just not grip me at least Arkham Asylum didn't, right?
- 27:21Maybe. I think Arkham City did do it
- 27:24for me because I felt like, you know, Batman would be doing the
- 27:27same sort of game as Old Spider-Man games are probably
- 27:30the new ones to where it's like an open world and you just yeah
- 27:33like Spider-Man just shoots his fucking webs and just swings
- 27:36around everywhere and I wanted that with Batman because Batman
- 27:40movies weren't him stuck in a building the entire time, I was
- 27:43him driving around Gotham and you know jumping from rooftops
- 27:46and you know batarangs just doing all that Batman stuff, you
- 27:49know. Like it was like a guy that was
- 27:51like on the rooftops looking down at criminals and jumping
- 27:54off the stuff and that's what I want in a Batman game, not this
- 27:57linear stuff. Tuck in, you know, Resident Evil
- 28:00sort of thing, you know? Yeah well I mean Arkham Arkham
- 28:05Asylum was like pretty good for like whore, you know, game type
- 28:09things. You know if you can kind of call
- 28:11it that but liked Arkham City was kind and then Arkham Knight
- 28:15like I never really I never really played it but like from
- 28:19what I'm told Arkham Knight was kind of a train wreck like
- 28:22gameplay. Yeah, at least at least the, I
- 28:25don't know about the gameplay. Another performance wasn't on
- 28:28first came I think those Arkham Knight that had the horrible PC
- 28:31launch and all of that. Yeah.
- 28:34Which is a shame because I really wanted to drive the
- 28:37fucking Batmobile that was like all that was all I wanted but
- 28:43all we really need from a Batman game and I'm sure that there's
- 28:46one out there and the comments can correct.
- 28:48This on this. I want something that's
- 28:50basically Spider-Man 2 from PlayStation 2.
- 28:53But that man, just an open world where Batman does Batman stuff.
- 28:58I mean, there's no Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 29:01Things just have Batman fly like, you know, drive around in
- 29:04the Batmobile and go to like different like you know the
- 29:07Joker's over here doing something get just run over
- 29:09there and beat him up. You know just just an open world
- 29:12is Batman simulator sort of thing?
- 29:14Yeah, well I mean I feel like Arkham Knight tried to do that
- 29:18but they also got like four. They also got like bogged down
- 29:21the like store events where it's like you need to go over here or
- 29:26else. You won't be able to like unlock
- 29:28this thing over. Years.
- 29:30So yeah, it kind of got a feel like Assassin's Creed really did
- 29:34do a good Batman itch though? That least the first couple
- 29:37games did? Oh yeah, for me like the whole
- 29:39jumping from rooftop to Rooftop being sneaky and killing guards
- 29:43and stuff. It's just nice to have so much
- 29:45fun. Just getting on the rooftops in
- 29:46the sadistic as it is. I just grabbed the guards and I
- 29:49just throw them off the roof top and see him fall down and we're
- 29:52gonna go oh my God you know you just I don't know what it was
- 29:57about just being on the throne of God.
- 29:58Get off the roof. Just made me happy.
- 30:03Speaking of games, have you played Superman 64?
- 30:08Yeah. Yes I have and it sucked.
- 30:12Well, I mean I wasn't a Superman fan anyway, back in the day,
- 30:16really? I mean, yeah, I just thought he
- 30:18was too powerful. I like Smallville, I thought
- 30:20does a good show when I was a kid at least now I know I think
- 30:24I think he has understood the question I asked if you play it
- 30:27super guns. Oh so that's what you're saying.
- 30:30Superman 64 know, I played Superman 64 which sucked
- 30:36although it's it's hilarious because I would imagine that
- 30:40super guts 64 would also say I've already done supergun 64 on
- 30:45the channel. Yeah let's play at their laughs
- 30:50straight. Crazy thing was and this is why
- 30:52every time I do a live stream if anybody shows up I try to you
- 30:55know basically walk like virtually welcome to every
- 30:59person and chanted newer old and shake their hand and say thanks
- 31:03for coming. You know where welcome to the
- 31:04show or welcome back or whatever.
- 31:07If I remember somebody, I try to do that with every single person
- 31:10because I've On for so many years you know from 2014 to.
- 31:16Now, where I would just sit in a fucking thing, no matter how
- 31:19many views, my my solo videos or do the affair stuff would get.
- 31:24I would just sit there and have zero viewers or like that nobody
- 31:27had four hours. And I was just like, Push
- 31:32through it and it's just hell. And now that I've actually
- 31:34gotten some success, I'm not I'm doing I'm not saying I'm famous,
- 31:38I'm not I'm not getting, you know, I'm nowhere near the
- 31:40biggest key, no Casino where pot awful or anything and maybe one
- 31:43day but you know I don't know. I'm not going to put, I'm not
- 31:46gonna count my chickens before they hatch.
- 31:49Is they say? But I mean, do let me ask you
- 31:53this. Do you really want the I mean I
- 31:57know that like, yeah, being famous would be like, nice but
- 32:00like I think I've is too. But like, do you really?
- 32:03Do you really want anything myself?
- 32:04I like that whole train wreck side of the internet.
- 32:07No, not really. Yeah, like like, like I I'm
- 32:12happy with what I get. Now, if I get 150 to 200 people
- 32:15watching Love, which is what happened getting close to.
- 32:18I think that's probably what's going to average out to I'm
- 32:21happy with that because it's big enough where it's possible to
- 32:25get some donations and just to basically by lunch tomorrow, not
- 32:29yeah, the living but it's also small enough where I can still
- 32:33talk to chat and not have it going by like a billion miles an
- 32:36hour. Right.
- 32:37I'm basically just might as well be streaming. 20 people at that
- 32:40point, you know, I guess him. Yeah, that's what it feels like
- 32:44to have be to be like, Medicare really me.
- 32:46I love Jam, I do and I'm happy that he's Rich As Fuck from
- 32:50these streams and I would love to have that sort of money
- 32:52coming in, but at the same time, I feel like you would kind of
- 32:55lose your soul when you, when you have that much shit going on
- 32:59a chat. Because it's like, The it's the
- 33:03essentially the same thing as when you have zero people
- 33:05because when there's zero people there there's nobody to talk to
- 33:08but when it's going by 13,000 people in the chats going.
- 33:11So fucking fast again. Say anything.
- 33:14You're not talking to anybody in chat either then you know it's
- 33:17well. And I mean also I mean I hate to
- 33:20say I hate to say this but kind of based on my experience and
- 33:26what I've observed like when YouTubers get big, you know, and
- 33:30I'm And I'm sure this is the case for everyone and I don't
- 33:34have sour grapes, but it seems like the bigger YouTubers.
- 33:38Get the like the bigger people, get the bigger.
- 33:42They ego grows in the worst like and then like their worst
- 33:47personality traits, like, come out, you know, or like rise,
- 33:52rise to the surface almost. It's it's almost kind of
- 33:57incredible to wash honestly. I think that's just some people
- 34:03just are like that and I think yeah, they were going to be like
- 34:07that regardless and it's just, you know, now that they've
- 34:10gotten more popular there, more people are more likely to see it
- 34:13because there's more people looking for that.
- 34:15You know what I mean? It's like if you a perfect
- 34:19example of like two different rock stars and I got to take a
- 34:22bathroom break in a second. Perfect example, Ritchie
- 34:27Blackmore from Deep Purple, which has huge fan of him,
- 34:31completely, a complete dickhead to, the fans wouldn't talk to
- 34:34him, just ignore them, blow them off just, you know, wouldn't
- 34:37sign. Autographs is just a dick or
- 34:39whatever, but Ronnie, James Dio, who was his singer and rainbow
- 34:43at that point. From, like, the mid to like late
- 34:4770s, Ronnie James Dio was lead, singer of his Ritchie's Banco
- 34:50rainbow for people who didn't know and Ronnie Wood did, what I
- 34:55Dead. And he went out there and every
- 34:57fan, he would shake their hand, tell him.
- 34:58Thanks for coming out, his son, their, their CD or whatever, and
- 35:02he would appreciate each and every fan, and he said that once
- 35:05he saw Richie snuff, the fans like that, he just never, he
- 35:08learned what not to do with the fans.
- 35:10Because if they don't show up, then there's no show, you know,
- 35:13right? So that's why I always try to be
- 35:17as respectful as possible to chat and, you know, dingo was
- 35:20blown away at how respectful I was to Papa Victors.
- 35:23And I was just like, If I don't like somebody, I'm not going to
- 35:27bring him on the damn show, right?
- 35:29Let's just I'm just not I'm not this type of guy that likes to
- 35:33bring on people to yell at them. I'm not that I'm not a Tonka,
- 35:36I'm not a Ralph. I don't enjoy screaming and
- 35:39yelling and getting into internet, fist fights or
- 35:41whatever. I don't enjoy that.
- 35:44I enjoy watching it for 20 minutes or so I mean once it
- 35:48gets after that it gets excessive, but yeah.
- 35:52I'm just up the mindset that it's like if I don't want, if I
- 35:55don't like him to S to have you on.
- 35:57And there's not many people, I wouldn't have on, you know, it's
- 36:00like I don't think about size or anything like that because I'm
- 36:04still a nobody. And even if I was getting 1,000
- 36:07viewers of show, I'm still nobody me.
- 36:08Who the fuck knows me. Like if you go out there on the
- 36:11street and ask who was pot awful, I'm not shitting on Jesse
- 36:14because I like Jesse and he's a Richmond guy to sure.
- 36:17I don't live in Richmond now but he's from he's originally from
- 36:20Richmond. Who knows, Jesse after Jessi is
- 36:24a good comedian, a good Entertainer, I respect him and I
- 36:29think he's really put in a lot of work and you know I love his
- 36:32set and I think he's just a decent dude you know outside of
- 36:36his character because I've seen him, you know, break character.
- 36:39If you just seem like an art gallery yes character and but
- 36:44the thing is, if I go to Richmond, does anyone know who
- 36:46Jesse is? Probably not probably not only
- 36:51will they know who Ralph is. Maybe yeah.
- 36:55Well I showed his ass and every bar there but there were no real
- 36:58for the wrong reasons but nobody outside of Richmond would know
- 37:01who Ralph is. You know?
- 37:02Right, well I mean like nobody. Nobody even really knows like
- 37:07outside of the internet who you know who met her is really.
- 37:12I mean people might remember him as like in an aristocrat because
- 37:17I do remember that he called into, like some mainstream like,
- 37:21you know, like talk shows during gamergate but like, and that's a
- 37:25whole thing too, is like outside of the internet, like no one
- 37:28knows who any of these people are.
- 37:31It's when I was outside of the IBS, and right after this, I'm
- 37:36have to take a 30-second break, but I'm not sure I want to put
- 37:39this comment out when I was looking on the outside and I'm
- 37:44trying to still be outside of the IBS thing because I don't
- 37:47want. Be channel that is necessary.
- 37:51I don't mind being associated with being a viewer that gives
- 37:57you updates or just write absent the stuff.
- 38:00But I don't want to be a contestant.
- 38:02That's got some I don't want it. No, no, no, I'm not trying to
- 38:05become a wrestler, but I will talk about the wrestling
- 38:07matches, right? And when I was outside of this
- 38:12bubble for four years, I just really could see how Tiny and
- 38:19how easy it was for people to get sucked in and think that
- 38:22this is an entire universe when it really is.
- 38:25Yeah, like like a fucking block in A Street.
- 38:28You know what I mean? It's like, it's just like a
- 38:31block and a street that has a block on a street in a city that
- 38:36has a billion different blocks, right?
- 38:39Yeah, it's like it really to its own little area.
- 38:43Yeah, it seems huge but like to the outside its is nothing
- 38:47there. No one who you bring it back.
- 38:49If you wouldn't it literally anybody even in another internet
- 38:53Community, like, even something, you know, if you want to like,
- 38:56Reddit slash whatever the fuck, I don't know, puppy dogs or
- 38:59something. He said, have y'all seen the new
- 39:02IBS episode? They probably think, what are
- 39:05you talking about? Like, yeah, little bowel
- 39:07syndrome and what does IBS they don't know.
- 39:10It's not, I mean, yeah, it's 13,000 people as a lot of
- 39:14viewers. I know.
- 39:15And, and that's, that's huge. But there are Which people that
- 39:19just play Fortnight and get like hundreds of thousands of
- 39:22viewers. Oh yeah.
- 39:24Yeah. You know like live like poke
- 39:27main like dwarfs everybody in IBS and always has and you know
- 39:32the biggest IBS star is Destiny. Probably Destiny's probably
- 39:37bigger than Medicare. I think I don't know but I think
- 39:40Destiny you know because he does like the gaming stuff and he's
- 39:43huge on Twitch, but right was so I don't know, I'll be right
- 39:47back. Alright, me sick?
- 39:50Yeah, I mean, yeah, folks, I mean like I've said, you know,
- 39:55internet this whole internet drama, you know, thing in my
- 40:02opinion, I mean people take it way too. people take away too
- 40:07seriously, as my co-host, Apex, you know, game and I talk a lot,
- 40:13you know, the Internet isn't necessarily real and You know,
- 40:20one of the things that I think is, you know, incredibly stupid
- 40:29is the fact that people get so butthurt on the internet that
- 40:36they basically try and, you know, ruin other people's lives
- 40:41over just comments on the internet.
- 40:45So yeah. Real quick house.
- 40:49Housekeeping, things. Well, we're waiting for Falco
- 40:53ticket to get back. As I mentioned the entire
- 40:58Archive of the show is backed up on Rumble.com now.
- 41:08So that's Rumble.com /the, Whitfield report and also You
- 41:18can also support the show on Odyssey Odyssey.com, /the.
- 41:26Withheld report. I believe that is the URL and
- 41:31this video should be up there as well.
- 41:34I'm thinking, by the time you guys hear this and all the links
- 41:44to support the show will be in the The description.
- 41:51As always, I'm going to pause this real quick or until Falco
- 41:59gets back and then we'll resume. So, this is just a quick break
- 42:03and we'll be back. All right, folks, and we're back
- 42:11with Jack Pierce. Yeah, Jack.
- 42:14Right, as you left for the brief break.
- 42:20So, yeah, like you said, the the this corner of the internet is
- 42:25very small. And yeah, I mean, the beefs are
- 42:29entertaining and whatnot. But the one thing that I've
- 42:32never wrote that, I've always kind of thought was stupid.
- 42:36And I mean that's kind just leaves into some be insane
- 42:40characters. You know, in the E drama Circle,
- 42:44all the are the people who want to life you know, ruination ruin
- 42:50it. Yeah people who aren't life
- 42:52ruination over. The fact that they don't agree
- 42:56with each other on political stuff, you know, or not even
- 43:01political stuff, but just Petty really petty bullshit.
- 43:07It's just that that time even has always just been really kind
- 43:11of weird to me. So Sam I want to give you a
- 43:15little bit of a rant that is going to be exclusive for the
- 43:18Whitfield report. Please give her some sort of
- 43:27more complex opinions to myself, basically, but I've been around,
- 43:34let's just say I've been around since 2014. 14, when it comes to
- 43:37like the political sphere, will 2015, let that I'm sorry 2014, I
- 43:41was still doing gaming stuff, but I've been, I went to
- 43:45gamergate, I left right. When I be as started, I came
- 43:48back now where they have whatever the fuck you call.
- 43:50Now, I'm going to tell you right now.
- 43:52Gamergate is something that people named check saying, oh,
- 43:56such a big thing and so much was going on in gay Ops aplenty and
- 43:59all of that. And that's, that's true.
- 44:01That did happen. And it was very, very complex
- 44:04with a lot of factions going at it.
- 44:07Within the movement itself, there was a lot of different
- 44:09groups that hated each other, like Gigi Revolt hated GG HQ and
- 44:14fucking, you know, vide like this group and dishonor.
- 44:17I was a lot of infighting in that group, but you know what?
- 44:21And they didn't put, you had to anti jeje people, which were
- 44:24called like, you know, sjw's basically, right?
- 44:27I'm going to tell you something that people forget for some
- 44:30reason. I don't know why.
- 44:32Or maybe they don't forget. The sjw's and I'm not making up
- 44:37for me because I hate him. I hate him, like I could, I hate
- 44:40in tape and BLM in all of them. So I really do hate these
- 44:43groups. None of them did the shit that
- 44:46the America first people are fucking doing now.
- 44:49There were no dmca things. Nobody was doing false, flagons
- 44:53left and right. Nobody was doxing anybody.
- 44:55Nobody was fucking swatting anybody, nobody tried to call
- 44:59people's jobs, none of that shit ever happen until these assholes
- 45:03decided, When it's about level, right body.
- 45:08Well, and I mean, I this was kind of um you actually kind of
- 45:13segue into my next point because I mean to me, it almost seems
- 45:19like, I mean it almost seems like the I mean I had to I'd say
- 45:25this but people are right when they say that the you know,
- 45:29blood Sports crowd, basically are the right-wing sjw's.
- 45:34And, you know, this whole No, this whole internet John thing,
- 45:40they're basically all right wing and sjws.
- 45:42You know, there's there's no there's almost no difference
- 45:47other than you know a few things and I mean you know, I want to
- 45:53say the right wing has to W's in some ways they're more, you
- 45:57know, degenerate than the sjw's. All right.
- 46:00And some, yeah, that's right. I mean, so at the time were
- 46:05recording this The the next, the next one has versus mr.
- 46:13Medic her debate have them. So and Jack, I have to be
- 46:19honest, I know you got, I know you got pissed off at the
- 46:23Fuentes thing last night in that you were saying how annoying he
- 46:28was like they were a few times knowing he's very annoying.
- 46:31Your your your reaction on stream and I tried to be I try
- 46:36message you call times like Your frustration.
- 46:39And at Nick, I was laughing my ass off, but you are a lot of
- 46:43people do because well and it was making fun of you.
- 46:47I was laughing because everything that you were
- 46:51expressing is how I've seen Nick for the past five or six years.
- 46:57And you know, I'm sure that this is part of his show, these going
- 47:02to try and dmca but like honestly, I have never
- 47:06understood the appeal that kid. He is like he is a serious
- 47:11narcissist. He has nothing of substance
- 47:17really as far as like argument, go go as far as I can tell his
- 47:24big stick was, oh, you know, I got Charlie crook to give a gut,
- 47:30you know, I, you know, I took down Shaw like I expose Sean
- 47:34Kirkham As a fraud. And, you know, I wanted to don't
- 47:38mean to cut you off, but I'm gonna know.
- 47:39Exactly. I'm going to explain to you
- 47:41exactly how these people work. If you tell the truth, you're
- 47:46not going to be popular. Because of Truth is not popular.
- 47:49And I know that people thought oh that's that's fucked up.
- 47:51That ain't true. No it is true.
- 47:53People want to hear what they already think.
- 47:57Spewed back at them. That's why anytime you watch
- 48:00mainstream media talking about like MSNBC CNN, whatever they're
- 48:04basically Telling you the same shit that you already know that
- 48:08you already agree with because they're not in these people
- 48:12including the America First types.
- 48:14They're not in the business of informing you breaking stories
- 48:19or trying to, you know, change the world in any way.
- 48:23They're basically there to make money, which is fine, it's a
- 48:26job. I've, you know, I have my own
- 48:27store my own shop not store and know there's a difference.
- 48:31I don't actually sell anything. I just, you know, I do services
- 48:34at the shop. Shop and my whole shut my shop
- 48:38while I enjoy and Wala, you know, do it.
- 48:40I get paid to do it and that's because it's my job, you know?
- 48:43That's my real job. That pays my bills.
- 48:45Not this IBS stuff and I never would wish it on anybody because
- 48:49it's really a prison to be stuck at the point where you want to
- 48:53be terminally online to the point where you would actually
- 48:57make enough money doing this shit.
- 49:00You had to put in so much time that it you're just be
- 49:02miserable. I mean look at Ralph he's
- 49:04miserable look. Ventus is measurable.
- 49:06Look at everybody that does this except for Keno Casino
- 49:09everyone's of just a miserable dick like what Jessie thank you.
- 49:13I love you Jessie. He brought up a perfect fucking
- 49:16point on Kieran casino last night.
- 49:18He said that everybody on the America First said looks like
- 49:21they need like a hug and some fucking like meant like nerve
- 49:25pills or something because they all looked really miserable over
- 49:29there. And they are because they their
- 49:32entire life is based around telling people People what they
- 49:35want to hear whether they believe it or not because you
- 49:38know if you say something they don't like to unsubscribe.
- 49:41But if you tell them what they do, you know they do her with.
- 49:46we'll just oh, go ahead. That's just how they are.
- 49:50It's just people want to hear what they already know and
- 49:54believe said, back to them because it validates him and
- 49:57makes him feel good and all of that.
- 49:59And that's what these people do. Yeah.
- 50:01Just that's just what they do. And there's that that's the
- 50:04business that they're in there. The there the preachers of that
- 50:08part of the internet. You know that's what they did
- 50:10there. The prosperity preachers of that
- 50:12internet they are basically just feeding you the shit that you
- 50:16want you know and it doesn't matter.
- 50:19What shit that is. I think it's I think they really
- 50:22sunk our ship with this dmca thing.
- 50:24I don't think that's going to help at all.
- 50:26But well from okay. So from my perspective because I
- 50:30mean I've been doing podcasting since 2008 and I mean, and I
- 50:35mean to be fair, I was one of those kids.
- 50:38I was like one of those teenagers that was like, you
- 50:41know, into politics, like a super young age.
- 50:44I, you know, I was kind like a big political nerd when I was in
- 50:47high school. Cool.
- 50:48So, on that sense of things like I can relate to, you know, like
- 50:53I guess Nick, you know, in that way.
- 50:57But like I was never really out there too.
- 50:59Like I was never in it too real, like, say the most edgy shit
- 51:04possible. And the whole thing with America
- 51:06First and maybe it's just because I'm a bit older now.
- 51:09But like, To me, it almost seems like America First was never
- 51:14about America first, you know, anything, it seemed like, oh
- 51:19let's just say the most edgy shit possible about Jews about
- 51:23blacks about, you know, whatever.
- 51:26It's basically create drama and get attention.
- 51:29It was just them repeating stuff that they saw on Paul back
- 51:33Drive. Yeah.
- 51:36And then, you know, Nick basically like just burning
- 51:40Bridges. You know, endlessly and now,
- 51:44it's funny. Because I mean, porcelain
- 51:47actually brought up at this point on Twitter.
- 51:48Like, I've said from the beginning, but like, Nick
- 51:51Fuentes, I might not agree with anything.
- 51:54He really says, or bury a little, I should say, but he
- 51:59never, you know, he never deserved to be, you know,
- 52:04censored or taken down or copyright strike, like, he
- 52:07didn't deserve that, neither did Milo, Yeah, and I'll pose or,
- 52:11you know, any of those guys. But for Nick to be, oh, you
- 52:16know, I missed your free speech. Warrior to now.
- 52:19Oh, I'm did. You know?
- 52:21I'm the I'm the Joker and, and, you know anyone who doesn't like
- 52:27me, they can eat shit. And yeah, I'll I'll copyright
- 52:32strike. I'm like it's just in dude,
- 52:36you're like 23 years old like, no one.
- 52:40No one in the real world, like, takes you seriously?
- 52:43And I know I'm 27. I'm, you know, I'm nearing old
- 52:47man stage. I guess I'm pissed old man,
- 52:50stage, I'm 32, but, you know, for fuck's sake, kid, you know,
- 52:57grow up so, you know, you're not the Joker, you're not some,
- 53:02you're not some edgy boy, you know, you're, you know, you're a
- 53:08kid with deep-seated issues. Choose whether or not you get a
- 53:11is, you know, another thing. And I don't really give a shit
- 53:15if you're gay or not, if you're not cool, if you are, you know
- 53:20whatever but you know, it just I mean, it just seems weird that
- 53:27like these children basically think that they're that like
- 53:32they're going to take over like the conservative movement, you
- 53:35know, or whatever. And they've done nothing except
- 53:38for like burn Bridges, or you know, do I mean Yeah, it was
- 53:45just, I just got so much joy out of people just like, you know,
- 53:50just like coming to the realization that I did, which is
- 53:53this kid is just weird at the, you know, to put it nicely.
- 53:59So there's a Paleo, calm, the Panthers to paleo cons.
- 54:02That's what he does. When that's the same thing.
- 54:04I also didn't think of a lot of Nick's.
- 54:07I have my issues with Allison as well, but there's one more on.
- 54:11I'm not going to get into any drama with Allison, I don't even
- 54:13know. He's around anymore, but Elsa
- 54:16Elsa to give him credit. He was a good-looking guy.
- 54:19No homo. But he was a, he was a guy that
- 54:22appealed to the ladies. He had a really good radio
- 54:24voice. He just knew how to, you know,
- 54:28say the things that got across the team of the people wanted to
- 54:31hear, you know, that that's what it is.
- 54:33That's what I was trying to say. Is they tell people what they
- 54:35want to hear is, why is I actually I actually interviewed
- 54:40allsup this was pre now, too. Now, to set things up for
- 54:45context, this was pre Charlottesville, prior to.
- 54:51So I interview James allsup, way back when he, you know, way back
- 54:58when he was hit out way back when he was hit, you know, in
- 55:02the head, you know, by antifa and, you know, at the time, he
- 55:09seemed very about board. He was, you know, he, when I
- 55:12interviewed and he was like a Perfect gentleman.
- 55:16Yeah, you know, he was here I wouldn't really say he was a, he
- 55:20was like a friend or anything, but, you know, he came on
- 55:23National. You have to give him that.
- 55:25He, he's very professional, I will give him that.
- 55:28I don't my problem with him was more of the same problem I have
- 55:32with a lot of people in that sector which was, they were
- 55:37pushing a product that did not do what they said at dead.
- 55:40And even when I tried to explain to them, because I've been in
- 55:43text since I 16. So that means I'm right for 16
- 55:46years that the virtual Shield was a very bad product that you
- 55:50shouldn't be using because it's been you know it's basically a
- 55:54Fed honey pot, you know, because it's a domestic DP and you don't
- 55:57use a domestic VPN or any of them in the 49.
- 56:01So the only vpns you should be using and I may be wrong because
- 56:04there might be others out there. Cyber goes to the, I've never
- 56:07used it but it's not domestic North vpns.
- 56:10Fine Express I wouldn't buy it because it's been bought out
- 56:12actually cyberghost to We're both of them off the list.
- 56:15Think they both got bought out by that malware company that
- 56:19would basically ignore VPN and surf shark are your only two
- 56:21options. And by whichever one you can
- 56:24afford really but the rest of them, just discard them entirely
- 56:27because all of them were rather based in the US which basically
- 56:31means the FBI are watching at the entire time.
- 56:33So you kind of wasted your point if you were trying to hide from
- 56:36them. What you can anyway but it's
- 56:39just a principal. I don't want to pay for
- 56:41something where I know a government is going to spy on
- 56:43me. Right.
- 56:44You know, I don't want to just connect to a network where I
- 56:46know it's like I were the feds are watching me now for sure.
- 56:49And I'm paying for the privilege of.
- 56:52Yeah, watching me, particularly that's stupid, just but I try to
- 56:56tell James like James virtual shed is the domestic.
- 56:59It's based in Delaware, you don't fucking push anything that
- 57:03has, you know, something with them, what they call the 14.
- 57:06I treaty basically saying that if your VPN is here will allow
- 57:11or country. Basically.
- 57:13Conspire Hi on what you're doing, you know, and share it to
- 57:16the other people. So, yeah, well, and I mean, so,
- 57:22my whole problem with with also really became like once the, you
- 57:27know, one one shot, one shot while happened and what not, I
- 57:32mean, when I, when I interviewed him like, you know, I honestly
- 57:37had no idea that he was like into any of, you know that stuff
- 57:42that happened at That's why I made that and may I was naive.
- 57:46But like, very few people people did.
- 57:48And I like that was the only show that like I, I actually
- 57:53like deleted off the channel and that was simply because, like,
- 57:57you know, I didn't want people to get the wrong idea.
- 58:01You know, I was like, somehow connect what stuff for you
- 58:04saying that he was into? Because I didn't follow all some
- 58:06close enough to actually understand, so I'll set up like
- 58:10really gotten to the whole way. Thank you, thanks.
- 58:13Probably, yeah, I mean, the the right, the race realism stuff,
- 58:18like where it, you know, where he would talk like, well, you
- 58:21know the cranial size of like, African skulls and whatnot.
- 58:26Like, realized the whole IQ, you know, and stuff and stuff like
- 58:33that. Like, I don't, I don't want to
- 58:37like, say that, you know, he's like an out-and-out racist
- 58:40because, you know, like, I feel like that label gets like thrown
- 58:43around. A lot, but he, he, he has done
- 58:46nothing, like, said, some things are like, you know, like what
- 58:51all, you know, too close to the mark on.
- 58:55So my question is with the race realism stuff and some of it is
- 59:00factually true. But it's not as if it's
- 59:02factually, true or not. It's why do you care, right?
- 59:07But like, but like there is, there is reason in my mind there
- 59:12is reasons too. Medical reasons.
- 59:15At least to know that. There's a difference between a
- 59:18white and a black person. Sure.
- 59:19Sure. Because black people do have
- 59:21some issues that are more likely with them to just like white
- 59:24people have issues, more likely with us and Mexican.
- 59:27Sur Le I think it was like, what was it?
- 59:28Black people are more likely to get sickle cell but we're more
- 59:30likely to get cancer and then Mexicans are like the least
- 59:34likely to get cancer but they're the hot.
- 59:36They're one of the highest for diabetes, maybe those black, I
- 59:38don't know. But yeah, that's sort of stuff
- 59:41like, medical where like the doctor could be like, okay.
- 59:43Well Makes more sense because of your genome genetic makeup, you
- 59:48know, like Vitiligo, right? That's pretty much a black
- 59:51person problem. Like you know, where their black
- 59:54skin starts turning white, you know, like Michael Jackson,
- 59:56right? I want the doctors to be able to
- 59:58say okay that is something that affects this particular.
- 1:00:01I'm not I think they're it's not the fact that blacks and whites
- 1:00:06are different. It's the fact that these people
- 1:00:09like also they're using it to basically say they're different.
- 1:00:12Therefore they're inferior it All right.
- 1:00:14Sounds like they're saying, but that's not, that's not true.
- 1:00:17It's just yeah. And then I mean, there was there
- 1:00:22was, there was like footage of him like a few that came out
- 1:00:28like a few, you know, years ago where he was based like we're
- 1:00:32basically was like fanboying in front of like Richard in front
- 1:00:35of like Richard Spencer, you know, and like yeah.
- 1:00:38I know that Richard Spencer and now is like a relevant.
- 1:00:41But like you know, back then when that footage came out like,
- 1:00:45you know, like shards what had just happened and like, and I am
- 1:00:50like to be fair, like, I guess that is kind where like, I have
- 1:00:54to give Nick credit because like he because like he did kind of,
- 1:00:59you know, and that was kind of where the whole Optics mean, you
- 1:01:03know, that he's famous for kind of came out of because, like to
- 1:01:07Fuentes is credit like he did recognize early on, like, being
- 1:01:11associated with, you know, Richard Hunter was not a good
- 1:01:15look optically for America first and I think in from my
- 1:01:21observation that was kind of where the fault between him and
- 1:01:24also, you know happened. But you know, now it's kind of
- 1:01:30funny because, you know, mr. Optics over here is now doing
- 1:01:36dmca strikes, you know? And yeah, so that's no longer
- 1:01:44optically, cool, either. I just think that it's just a
- 1:01:48matter of why the hell would I care about?
- 1:01:51I'm not a doctor and I'm not a scientist, so, why the hell do I
- 1:01:54care? There's a skull sizes and IQ
- 1:01:58numbers and all this other bullshit of, you know, this race
- 1:02:00versus that race is like, it mean, if you, if you want like,
- 1:02:04you can actually take it and kind of think of it as kind of
- 1:02:06cool. If you do take that shit because
- 1:02:07it's like, you know, You know how like you have different
- 1:02:10races in a video game where I like a certain, right?
- 1:02:12Yeah, better than let me, it's not racist to say that black
- 1:02:17people are stronger and faster than white people for the most
- 1:02:21part, right. Right.
- 1:02:23You know, but why people have their general?
- 1:02:27Not individual but like, they have their General things that
- 1:02:29they're just, I don't know, they may be there.
- 1:02:32Mercantile skill is high or some shit.
- 1:02:34You know what I mean? But it's not like you know, I
- 1:02:36think it ballad the Balance out where it's no one's really
- 1:02:41Superior. It's just, they're different,
- 1:02:43you know what I mean? Like, most of the most athletes
- 1:02:46are famous for black. I mean, it's just a fact that
- 1:02:50they're just better at physical activity than we are period.
- 1:02:53There is no, there's no racism there, they just are.
- 1:02:57Yeah, you know, I mean, I mean, I Asians beat us on prayer
- 1:03:01everybody on pretty much all the intellectual shit, so all of us
- 1:03:04are dumb compared to them. Yeah.
- 1:03:06I mean, I don't, I don't think there's anything wrong.
- 1:03:09Wrong with acknowledging racial differences in and out of, in a,
- 1:03:14in a in and of themselves. Like I'm not, I'm not like an
- 1:03:17sjw where it's like, I don't see race, you know, anything like
- 1:03:22like that. Yeah.
- 1:03:22Like I'm not one of those, you know, numbskulls, but at the
- 1:03:26same time, like I don't, like, I don't think there's any reason
- 1:03:32to be like malicious about it, don't know.
- 1:03:34That's the point. The point is, are you using
- 1:03:38these? Is facts in a malicious way or
- 1:03:41not. Are you using it to say black
- 1:03:43sir? Because their average overall of
- 1:03:46millions of people is like an x amount less than this other one
- 1:03:50is they've been there basically say okay, well black people have
- 1:03:54less IQ points in the average white person.
- 1:03:56There for All Blacks are stupid. That's what they're trying to
- 1:03:58say. Yeah, but that's just in Craig,
- 1:04:02who's I don't know if you want to call my co-host or second
- 1:04:05chair, whatever you want to call Craig because he's he's not
- 1:04:08really doesn't. Have an official spot anywhere.
- 1:04:10You just kind of shows up when I asked him to show up, I called I
- 1:04:14called Craig the man, because man because Craig is the man,
- 1:04:19you're welcome, Craig. You can you can pay the
- 1:04:22following 20 bucks for that. So the thing with Craig is he
- 1:04:26always had the salon and I always thought it was a great
- 1:04:29line was and was statistics mean nothing to the individual,
- 1:04:33right? And that pretty much debunked
- 1:04:36saw the race realism, you know, like racist bullshit saying
- 1:04:39Thomas Alva is apparently the smartest died in America and
- 1:04:42he's black. So yeah, he's like he's like
- 1:04:46number one, economy are fucking country, the dudes black and you
- 1:04:50know, very black he's not. He has no wider eight and had
- 1:04:54all the duties black. He's a black dude.
- 1:04:56Oh yeah. Well well, if you believe the,
- 1:04:59if you believe the, the sjw's he is not.
- 1:05:03He is a white black man or however the Lord or how or how
- 1:05:08red-eye goes. Like Like like yeah, like and
- 1:05:11that's the other thing too. Is like, oftentimes like, you
- 1:05:15know, the America first people like want to complain about the,
- 1:05:18you know, the SJ W is on like the far left, right?
- 1:05:22But then it's like they're the. It's like they're, they're
- 1:05:26they're like the, they're like the flip side, like the same
- 1:05:29shitty coin, you know, it's like, neither extreme is really
- 1:05:34good and like, I'm not really going to sing it.
- 1:05:36Like I'm a moderate because they think that like, I think that at
- 1:05:40one point, like, you know, moderates, do like fence bit too
- 1:05:43much but like honestly, like my whole thing is, like, I think
- 1:05:48you should be able to like smoke pot and you know like own guns
- 1:05:52and like, you know, get married, get married.
- 1:05:55If you're, you know, if you're a gay guy or, you know, whatever,
- 1:05:59just, you know, you bu and as long as you're not like, you
- 1:06:04know, screwing in what anyone else over, you know, holding
- 1:06:07anyone. And you know, just do whatever
- 1:06:11it's not that hard so yeah. But unfortunately, my time is
- 1:06:19up, man. I've really got to go.
- 1:06:22Yeah, I know, no problem man. Um, before we end anything,
- 1:06:26you'd like to plug, where can people find?
- 1:06:28Your stuffing? Just link.
- 1:06:31Tres leche Falco, punch, 64. All right, Well well sir, thanks
- 1:06:39for coming on and you know, feel free to come back anytime.
- 1:06:43If you want to promote anything, I'll be sure to check out some
- 1:06:48of your books especially now they're all inaudible.
- 1:06:52Yeah man, I appreciate it man. But yeah, thanks for having me
- 1:06:56on no problem, and thanks to you folks for tuning in and we'll be
- 1:07:02back later on. So, God bless.
- 1:07:06And yeah, we'll talk it to down the road.
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