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Saints Trade for Zamir White & Add Daniel Carlson: Breaking Down the Roster Moves · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. I was so ready to make another one,
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  Speaker 2: and I was a god no, but it really it's
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  Speaker 2: it would be disingenuous.
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  Speaker 1: Now what you've had one would yeady?
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  Speaker 1: The exits and get Okay, that was gratuitous, but uh okay, fine.
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  Speaker 1: Saints lose very badly. And now they've made more injuries
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  Speaker 1: and they've made some roster changes. Let's start there. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with a trade. So they traded Dion Jones for
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  Speaker 1: Zamir White. Make this make sense? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I think the on the Dion Jones side of it
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  Speaker 2: really exciting story. Guy from New Orleans being able to
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  Speaker 2: come back to play for the New Orleans Saints in all,
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  Speaker 2: but the writing was on the wall that at best
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  Speaker 2: he was going to end up with a practice squad spot,
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  Speaker 2: in one of the veteran practice squad spots. There's only
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  Speaker 2: six of those allowed out of the sixteen that they
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  Speaker 2: can get, they technically get seventeen if they were to
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  Speaker 2: have Charlie Smith over on the practice squad two but
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  Speaker 2: sixteen in total, and so it seemed like it made
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  Speaker 2: sense to move him if there was another team that
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  Speaker 2: was interested. They found a team that was interested in
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco, and we're able to bring back a running
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  Speaker 2: back there. And I think today we learn about the
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  Speaker 2: ty Chandler injury, which is a knee injury. He's expected
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  Speaker 2: to miss extended time. We'll learn what that extended time
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  Speaker 2: means over time, and so now you kind of see, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I bet that caused this, right, the ty Chandler injury
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  Speaker 2: creates a situation to where they want to go and
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  Speaker 2: get another running back because Alvin Kamaras hurt, ty Chandler's hurt,
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  Speaker 2: Devin Niel's hurt. They only just got Kendrick. The project
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  Speaker 2: estimate only just came back today, and so now they
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  Speaker 2: bring in Samir White, who ends up kind of helping
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  Speaker 2: them out over on the running back side, at least
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  Speaker 2: in terms of having the numbers that they need to
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  Speaker 2: get to the rest of the Austin.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, do we think so? Do we think Zamir White
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  Speaker 1: like will make this team and be on the roster
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  Speaker 1: against Detroit Week one?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't. It'd be hard for me
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  Speaker 2: to project that right now and say yes, and so
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  Speaker 2: it's easier for me to project it and say no.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think that. Look, he's he's a talented place.
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  Speaker 2: He is familiar with the scheme and the style, both
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  Speaker 2: from college and from his years in Vegas and a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of time that he spent in San Francisco
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  Speaker 2: as well, and so I do think there's a natural
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  Speaker 2: fit for him from a system perspective and a scheme perspective,
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  Speaker 2: and so there's certainly an opportunity for him, and while
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  Speaker 2: this running back room remains beat up, there will be
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  Speaker 2: opportunities for him. But you know, just from playing the
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  Speaker 2: numbers game and just understanding just the raw numbers of
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  Speaker 2: all this, if the things walk in with Travis A.
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  Speaker 2: Chang junior Alvin Kamara, knowing that he is injured right
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  Speaker 2: now but could be back early in the season, probably
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  Speaker 2: might not be a player that needs the ir appointment,
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  Speaker 2: and so you would carry him on the active roster.
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  Speaker 2: Kendre Miller if he makes it to the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the offseason healthy. It sounds like Devin Neil is going
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  Speaker 2: to be out for a while, sounds like ty Chandler
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  Speaker 2: is going to be out for a while, and Audre
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  Speaker 2: Estime has been really good. Those are probably your four
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  Speaker 2: running backs, and so Samir White just ends up from
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  Speaker 2: a numbers perspective, being on the outside looking in, but
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  Speaker 2: then maybe being able to find a role in the
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  Speaker 2: practice squad, which is likely where ty Chandler might have
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  Speaker 2: ended up as well, and then just being elevated to
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  Speaker 2: help on the special team side of things. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's probably the more likely and projectable path for Zamir,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly a guy that you know has a chance
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  Speaker 2: to come in and make them think otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Okay does so. With ty Chandler's knee injury, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm just reading the reports, it sounds like it's really
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  Speaker 1: serious and he had an eighty six yard kickoff return
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  Speaker 1: in the season the preseason opener. Does that absence open
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  Speaker 1: up a spot for someone else return kicks?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does. And look the other guy
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  Speaker 2: that's expected to Kellen Moore said time lost when he
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  Speaker 2: was talking about safety Lorenzo Styles Junior, who of course
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  Speaker 2: had you know, I think it was Ohio State's like
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  Speaker 2: first kick return in double digit years or something like
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  Speaker 2: that for a touchdown last year. You know, he was
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  Speaker 2: a guy that would have been considered there. But if
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be out for an extended amount of
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  Speaker 2: time as well, then I think that that puts other
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  Speaker 2: guys into the conversation, like Kendre Miller, CJ. Donaldson. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even Audric Estimate has been kind of returning
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  Speaker 2: kicks and also serves as a blocker. You kind of
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  Speaker 2: want one of those hybrid guys there. Jaden Price has
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  Speaker 2: been another player, and then of course the group of
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers, including barry On Brown, who we expect to
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  Speaker 2: be the top guy. Uh there, And we kind of
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  Speaker 2: were expecting it to be barry On Brown and type Chandler,
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  Speaker 2: but now guys like Bryce Lance as well as potentially
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  Speaker 2: Trey Palmer and others could could could kind of fight
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  Speaker 2: for that spot as well. So that now opens up
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  Speaker 2: that conversation next to what I assume will be berry
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  Speaker 2: On Brown for who's going to be that other kick
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  Speaker 2: returner for sure?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so he's at Ross Jackson, NOLA locked on Saints
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  Speaker 1: dot Net. Let's pivot talk, Let's pivot, let's pivot, nice pivot,
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  Speaker 1: Let's pivot and talk about Daniel Carlson. So all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, the Saints place kickers they stink completely, and
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  Speaker 1: now they've signed Daniel Carlson to try to find someone
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  Speaker 1: who can make a kick. Okay, what should we make
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  Speaker 1: of this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not too terribly far from the
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  Speaker 2: way that you explain it, right, Like, the kicker battle's
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  Speaker 2: been underwhelming and both kickers have been underwhelming, and that's
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  Speaker 2: just the truth of it. I mean, look, at the
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  Speaker 2: numbers right in terms of both of these guys, one
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  Speaker 2: of them is I think it's thirty five of forty one.
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  Speaker 2: The other is thirty five of forty four. Neither of
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  Speaker 2: those who are going to bring those percentages home in
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  Speaker 2: terms of what it is that you're really looking for
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  Speaker 2: from that kicking position. And so you bring in another guy,
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  Speaker 2: and you bring in a veteran, a guy that's a
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  Speaker 2: two time All Pro, second time second team All Pro
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one I believe it was, and then
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  Speaker 2: first team All Pro in twenty twenty two the year after,
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  Speaker 2: And so I mean it's the guy that comes in
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: He comes in also on an eighty six percent kick
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  Speaker 2: field goal conversion rate over the course of his career
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  Speaker 2: eighty one percent last year. You probably like to see
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  Speaker 2: those numbers a little bit higher. His missus he had
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  Speaker 2: five misses last year. Two came from the forty yard range,
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  Speaker 2: three came from the fifty yard range. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're still going to have a competition here, and they
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  Speaker 2: still believe very strong and Charlie Smith. But I think
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  Speaker 2: you bring in a veteran kicker just like they brought
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  Speaker 2: in Kay Kroeger late they carried three punters for about
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  Speaker 2: a week last year. I think you're gonna see them
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  Speaker 2: carry three kickers for about a week. Kellen Moore said
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  Speaker 2: today that he is expecting the plan to be to
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  Speaker 2: bring three kickers to Dallas. And so with that being
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  Speaker 2: the case, I think this is the week right here.
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  Speaker 2: It's where you've got to figure out who that kicker
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  Speaker 2: is going to be with roster cuts on Sunday. And
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  Speaker 2: so I think Carlson comes in as a guy that
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  Speaker 2: very much presents a challenge for these other two young guys.
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  Speaker 2: And whether whether it's that he provides that challenge to
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  Speaker 2: such an extent that the Saints film most comfortable with him,
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  Speaker 2: or those other guys rise the occasion because of the challenge,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. But this is a very real now three
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  Speaker 2: way battle for the Saint kicker position going into the
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  Speaker 2: going of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one more. The injuries continue to persist. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's almost absurd at this point with this new wave.
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  Speaker 1: Which what do you think is the most significant?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's the guys that
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  Speaker 2: impact your starting lineup. Like, let's just be real, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's there's some people right now, Like we went
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  Speaker 2: to practice today and it was kind of twenty one
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  Speaker 2: players that were either sidelined or not on the field.
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  Speaker 2: That's on your ninety man roster. That's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: And so but to be real about it, like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those players or a good portion of those
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  Speaker 2: players probably don't actually aren't prep probably in line to
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  Speaker 2: make your fifty three man roster either. But so because
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  Speaker 2: of that, I think you have to look at the
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  Speaker 2: guys that do impact that Alvin Trauerra Quincy Riley, Cam Jordan,
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  Speaker 2: like the Jordan Tyson, like the guy Caesar Ruiz who
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  Speaker 2: was out today. I mean, there are these players that
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  Speaker 2: are Week one starters that you want to be out
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  Speaker 2: on the football field that may not be available for
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  Speaker 2: Week one. We know that when it comes to Jordan Tyson,
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  Speaker 2: we're not super sure when it comes to guys like
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  Speaker 2: Cam Jordan as well as Alvin Tremira, and I think
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  Speaker 2: like it would be disingenuous to try to pass off
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  Speaker 2: the impact on that like that that has impact for
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  Speaker 2: this team that they're going to walk into this season
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  Speaker 2: with some players is unavailable that could otherwise contribute to them.
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  Speaker 2: And so you'd like to see that that list come down.
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  Speaker 2: You'd like to see guys like Quincy Riley, Cam Jordan
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  Speaker 2: Alvin get back to the lineup before Week one, but
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  Speaker 2: if they're not there, that has an impact on this team.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that this is something that this team's
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  Speaker 2: got to get figured out as well, because it's not
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  Speaker 2: like the injury news around them is any quieter or
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  Speaker 2: any or any new or anything new versus what they've
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  Speaker 2: experienced over the course the past few years. And so
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  Speaker 2: something's got to something's got to break eventually, and ideally
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  Speaker 2: it's it's one that breaks in their favor and getting
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  Speaker 2: these players back and being able to keep on the field.
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  Speaker 1: I hate this preseason.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough. Aw It's been a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to go to hobbyers in Dallas?
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  Speaker 2: I can. I don't know what Hobviers is. Should I
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  Speaker 2: be in my ashamed of that? Should be a shamed
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  Speaker 2: of that?
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  Speaker 1: No, not a shame, just feel informed, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: actually knowing your dietary restrictions, Hobviers may not be the
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  Speaker 1: best choice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a there's a there's a diner down there
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  Speaker 1: I'll probably go to that, okay. Let me. I'll do
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  Speaker 1: some research for you, okay, and we'll see what we
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  Speaker 1: can do. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I love it all right.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Ross, Thank you buddy.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take care of same. Talk to you here, okay,