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LIVE Bracketology 5/13 | Ep. 036 · College Baseball Now

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  Speaker 1: Well, for the first time in history, we are live.
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  We've got a unique episode at hand as we're live
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  streaming Josh and Jake's weekly bracketology call and bringing you
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  into the mix on YouTube and Twitter. So get into
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  the mix with your questions and comments because we're live. Pal.
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  It's college baseball now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there ain't no problems, no problems.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want problem?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah let me shut yet?
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  Speaker 3: Then what was gone for a minute?
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  Speaker 1: Hit to be out beating you didn't grab a couple
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  of wins?
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  Speaker 3: Would be I D if it's even know the kid
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  I had to do a b I G D. You
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  can never beat average And they want to problem with
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  the point.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want no statics counted, So coach son run
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  a week God, I want to test that to them?
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  Speaker 4: Was standing troll running game?
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  Speaker 1: Best beleave you shigning ducks counting them up wins?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it when they count me. Y'all counting
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  up the least slieve run the game to leave out
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  knock them out.
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  Speaker 1: They really don't want to stand. Company live from well
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  three different places, but Company live on YouTube and Twitter.
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  It is College Baseball Now, presented by Prospects Live. We're
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  so glad to be here with you for a very
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  special episode of the show, obviously streaming live. Excited to
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  see some of you already joining us, uh joining us
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  being we your friends, you're hosting team for college baseball now.
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  Starting with me, Drew Wheeler, director of amateur Scouting at
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  Prospects Live, happy to be here with you and my
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  friends as well. Starting with the gentleman in the middle
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  of the screen, his new signature spot. Some have called
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  it it's Josh Catlet. Josh, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great. I enjoyed doing this every week. I'm excited
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  to get to show the people what it's like behind
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  the scenes, how.
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  Speaker 1: The sausage is made. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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  I can't wait for you to walk us through your
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  thought process for sure. And then on the far side
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  of the screen, I believe he's had a haircut since
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  I've seen him. It is mister Jake Barjory coach. Good
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  to see you.
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  Speaker 4: Good to see you too, Drew. I did get a
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  haircut today, actually, in preparation. Baseball season's over. The superstition
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  of not cutting my hair during the season is over,
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  so to time to get back to back to business.
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  Speaker 1: Back to business indeed, and speaking of business, guys, lots
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  of business to attend to because it is what it says.
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  On the ten, we're breaking down you guys, normal bracketology
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  call that you have once per week. So I'm gonna
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  throw it first to you, Jake, to kind of explain
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  what brought this about before we give it to Josh,
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  who's gonna walk us through and lead us in this process.
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  Before we do that, though at home, we need you
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  to comment on Twitter, on YouTube. Drop your comments because
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  we can see them. We can chine you in as
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  your thoughts are coming in on our field of sixty
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  four while we put it together. We invite you to
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  join us in this kind of special episode of college Baseball. Now, Jake,
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  what brought this thought about to do bracketology between you
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  and Josh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like since we started, uh, since we
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  started college baseball now back in the back in the fall.
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  This is something that I think both of us has
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  kind of been kind of been looking forward to. Josh
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  was doing his on his own personal account. I've been
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  kind of keeping track of it myself, not really posting it,
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  and then I just kind of we just kind of
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  thought together, like a few I guess kind of really
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  just a few weeks ago where we thought about, let's
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  let's just start posting, let's get a bracketology up for
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  the for the big for the for the college baseball now,
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  you know, for all of us, and then you know,
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  and then we had the discussion not too long ago
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  about maybe going live and thought that would probably be
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  fun as we got, you know, a couple of weeks
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  left in the season, so I'm excited to get into it.
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  It's gonna be a it's gonna be a big discussion
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  for sure, as he always is between me and Josh
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  when we're doing it by ourselves. But it's gonna be
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  it's gonna be fun, though.
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  Speaker 1: Josh, a big discussion typically between you and Jake, only
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  gonna be expanded obviously by adding my mass and bad
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  opinions to the mix. So I'm excited to be here
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  with you, buddy. Thank you so much. I'm curious, Josh,
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  can you walk us through, obviously what our process is
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  gonna be as we I'm gonna go ahead and bring
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  in your screen, walk us through the process, and let's
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  go ahead and get started putting together this field of
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  sixty four.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so relatively simple the process itself, I went ahead
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  and listed all, Well, let me let me start over
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  all the conference champs are represented here based on who
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  we think has the best chance of winning the conference tournament,
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  who we project The ones that are controversial we already
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  discussed before getting on here, just to kind of cut
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  some time, so this thing isn't two hours long. Most
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  of these are pretty self explanatory. Over Here, we have
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  the at larges. These teams, the top twenty seven of
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  them are ones at the same kind of thing. There's
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  no way we could have a discussion and like end
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  up with the scenario where these teams are not in
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  the field. All of these here, I think there, so
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  let me update this real quick. Here there's nineteen teams
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  for eight spots that after we finish the one in
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  two seed discussions, we can kind of have a talk
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  about who we think of these nineteen teams will make
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  the eight spots for the for the bubble for the
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  last at large spots. That's typically where the most frustrating
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  discussion comes, considering the bubble is so incredibly weak this year.
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  But we will do that after we discuss the one
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  in two seeds and then yeah, at the end, we'll
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  put the three and four seeds. See them mostly by
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  like geography, but typically it's like a we try to
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  go in terms of competitive balance, where it's like if
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  it goes down this way and then back up like this,
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  if you can see my screen for the people listening
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  on audio, sorry, but that the one and two seats
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  are seed one through thirty two like that. Let me
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  try and wrap back around like this and give them
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  more difficult three seeds down to the sixteen fifteen fourteen
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  seed regionalism and so on, and then back down this way.
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  So it's roughly by geography, but we try and get
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  some competitive balance in there too.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fun process. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited, man. So, judging on what you just said,
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  then that the first step would obviously be we need
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  to go through the one seeds. Josh, is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, passing the floor to you.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, first of all, I think this is
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  the discussion starts at two. Really, I think we can
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  all pretty much agree UCLA is going to be one overall.
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  I mean that I don't really need to say any
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  kind of numbers, but that they're forty six and five,
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  twenty five and two quad one and two record that
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  one in the RPI. It's pretty sentenced. Doone. I think
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  we can. They've been one every single time. I don't
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  think that's gonna change. I think is where you can
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  have a discussion about. In my mind, four teams, maybe five,
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  but I think four teams could be talked about for
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  this spot or for the two through five spots. In
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  my mind that would be in no order. Georgia Tech, Georgia,
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  North Carolina, and Auburn. Do any of y'all want to add? Like,
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  would you want to add Texas in that range? Or
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  do you think? I mean, we can discuss them, but
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  I personally think resume wise, they don't entirely stack up.
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  But what do y'all think?
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  Speaker 4: I think I think we can add Texas? I mean,
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  like they have sixteen sec wins. Auburn has sixteen sec wins.
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  If I have that right where I'm looking at it,
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  the RPIs, you know it's four top. You know they
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  have the six strength of schedule like that, they don't
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  really have any bad losses. I think they have maybe one,
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  Like I think I think I think Texas can be
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  thrown in this mix.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, all right, I would agree, just because looking at
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  the again, if we're comparing resumes right here, the quad
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  one and two record for Auburn twenty and sixteen is
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  very strong. Twenty one and eleven from Texas, though, is
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  better on both fronts. Now, granted, Auburn plays a more
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  difficult schedule. I don't think that there's any real argument
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  to that, right, I would, And again I don't want
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  to speak for Jake, but I would still think that
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  even if Texas is ends up as the sixth seed nationally,
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  I still think that they deserve to be kind of
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  in this conversation, at the bare minimum, I would, I
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  would say they're either five or.
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  Speaker 3: Six, though, Joshua, all right, yeah, so in that case, yeah,
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  let's between these five teams we can kind of break
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  it down. I think so RPI Auburn's two, Georgia, Texas three,
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  Texas four, North Carolina five, and then Georgia all the
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  way down at fifteen. Georgia is like the exception of
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  all exceptions here. They're probably gonna pop up about three
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  spots this weekend just for playing Auburn. Beating them might
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  help a little more but just for playing the team
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  that's number two in the RPI, they're gonna bump up regardless.
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  I don't think like Auburn and Georgia Tech swapped yesterday,
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  both teams lost, but Auburn was playing a better team
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  in Jacksonville State. So Auburn's down number two in the RPI.
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  I don't think that's gonna change because they're playing Georgia
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  this weekend. I don't really see it changing. It's it's
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  an interesting situation because I think in terms of I know,
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  we're Aileen here, I personally for number two, Aileen Georgia Tech.
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  They're probably gonna win the ACC. They don't have the
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  head to head over North Carolina, but I'm not sure
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  in regards to everything else how much that matters. They're
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  three in the RPI. They have sixteen quad one wins.
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  It's a twenty two and seven quad one and who
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  record combined. I think that's better than Yeah, that's better
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  than any of the other teams in this range. That's
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  personally where I lean. I mean, typically in a normal year,
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  it's you're not really gonna find the top two seeds
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  being on SEC teams. But I think this year there's
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  an exception. I y'all, y'all correct me if you disagree,
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  but I think Georgia Tech would be too.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm with you, I was. I mean, you said
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  all the things that I was also gonna say. But
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  I have Georgia Tech at two, probably Auburn at three, right, So.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm trying not to be biased here. I
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  personally it's gonna it's gonna figure itself out this weekend. Anyway,
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  I think I would have Georgia three, just because regardless
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  I know the RPI is what it is, but regardless
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  of how the result goes this weekend, Georgia is gonna
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  win the SEC by multiple games, and I think it
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  would be hard for the committee to put another team
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  above Georgia when they win the toughest conference by multiple games.
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  That's just me. It's not a lot of it's not
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  nearly the amount of Quad one and two opportunities out
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  together in this range, just surely because of the strength
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  of schedule they're thirty six and strength to schedule two
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  thirty four and non gone drink to schedule. That's where
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  I lean it's gonna work itself out. If you wanted
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  to lean Auburn just because of the home team this weekend,
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  and you think to win that series and that'll hold
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  some with then that's a different situation. But I I
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  personally would go Georgia here, I think thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's hard to predict Georgia to lose
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  a series to anybody, I guess for hot Road or
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  at home.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, at this point you can kind of say
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  the same thing about Auburn if for being honest.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, I mean you just you mentioned
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  that they have twenty one sec wins right now to
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  Auburn sixteen. I think that kind of it does say
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  a lot and like and then and if they do
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  win the series, you know, their their RPI is probably
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  gonna jump up into the they might get into top
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  ten at that point if they win the series at Auburn, Uh,
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  I'm good with it. I'm good with Georgia at three.
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  Speaker 1: Before before we settle on that, Josh, my only question
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  to you would be what would have to happen between
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  now and selection Monday for you to put Auburn at three?
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  And what's the likelihood it happens?
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  Speaker 3: A regardless, likelihood is not very high, but I mean,
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  like I it sounds simple. I think they'd have to
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  win the tournament in Hoover, really, because I mean, if
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  it's this close and Georgia has just such a gaping
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  advantage over the rest of the SEC in terms of
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  the conference standings, I think Georgia would have to lose
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  in their first or second game in Hoover and Auburn
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  would have to run the table.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then.
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  Speaker 3: Helps if Auburn remains at two, that's going to be
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  a really really strong case. They have the dumb agree
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  do in the country.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. That's the one thing kind of
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  glared me in the faces. I'm hearing you guys make
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  great points. It's just the difference in RPI. Let's let's
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  run it with Georgia. I agree with you guys enough
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  at this point, I think my brain explodes very early
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  into this. So you guys are gonna have to really
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  crutch me along, because, uh, at this point, I'm not sure.
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  I almost I almost lean Carolina and then Texas in
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  that order, but I could be convinced otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's where A lean two, but it's
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  I don't know, it's very close.
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  Speaker 1: Oh got a comment Luke at home. What's up, Luke,
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  good to hear it from me. Body.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know. I'm looking at it more. Jake, Chimemon,
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  you where you feel. I think so quad one Texas
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  has five more wins. They're quad one and two records.
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  North Carolina is twenty one an eight compared to Texas
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  twenty one and eleven. Texas is one spot about of
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  Carolina and the RPI they have much better series wins
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  for sure, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I think the quad one opportunities is also really telling
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  there too.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, And I think so what strength to schedule?
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  Texas is six, Carolina is twenty MHM. Road record ooh,
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  well here here's a big one. So road record is
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  something that I think has discussed a lot more in
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  the room than then probably we realize, uh, North Carolina's
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  twelve and two. Texas is eight and eight. Ooh, I
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  should probably probably pull up the d s R.
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  Speaker 4: And I was just getting ready to say that d
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  s R d s R North Carolina's two Texas is five,
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  so they're both top five and that metric.
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  Speaker 1: Jake, will you explain at home d s R to
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  people at home who may not know what that is.
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  Speaker 4: It's just another ranking, uh, similar to r p I. UH.
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  Like I don't know the formulas for the two off
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  the top of my lived, but I know they both.
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  I know they both get discussed when they're when they're
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  talking about it. Obviously r p I is the is
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  the more heavily considered uh of the of the two. Uh.
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  But d s R I believe it. It's a Diamonds Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Ranking what it is, especially on the ballot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a formula based metrics similar to
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  r P I that also gets considered. And then KPI
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  is another one. I don't know. I don't think that
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  one's used.
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  Speaker 3: They're both used this year for the first time. Okay,
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  the softball tournament that just the bracket came out, Yes,
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  was I think DSR was heavily factored into that one.
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  Like if you look at the DSR compared to like
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  the other two metric systems, the DSR are more uh correlated,
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  more with the final results than anything else. I'm not
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  gonna like it's different committees. I'm not gonna say it's
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  the same thing, but it should just be noted. I
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  guess that there is relevance.
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  Speaker 4: Wouldn't wouldn't it be nice if it was just a
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  standard across all of them.
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  Speaker 3: But Oka North Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: Is too in DSR, Texas is five. I don't know
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  what they are KPII.
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  Speaker 3: For Carolina's five. So I mean they're so close that
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  those are probably a wash in my I don't I
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  think I've talked myself in the Texas Honestly.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would lean Texas, but I would not
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  fight anybody for saying they prefer you and c here.
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  I would lean Texas as well.
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  Speaker 4: Jake, Texas is also playing Missouri. They can just get
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  They could just get to nineteen sec wins could.
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  Speaker 3: Also hurt the RPI just by playing.
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  Speaker 4: How much? How much would they they are? They do
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  have them at home. If they sweep, I mean, how
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  much do they drop?
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't know, but I mean this late in
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  the season, I also don't know, but it should probably
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  just be noted.
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  Speaker 4: I would think if they just win all three, they're
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  probably still a top.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I mean, I think I like Texas.
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  I think I taught myself in the Texas. Here are
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  we cool with that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I like Texas. Texas. U can see right?
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  Speaker 3: H Hello, all right, next group? I think once again,
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  throwing teams if you'll think anyone different. I think Bama
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  and and M are definitely the next group. I'd say probably.
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  Speaker 1: Pick twelveampion in that mix.
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  Speaker 3: So Florida State, I would say, because the RPI for sure.
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  And then we have this weird bunch of I think
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  Mississippi State, Southern miss West, Virginia, Florida, maybe Kansas because
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  like Kansas is probably going to win the Big Ten
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  in Big twelve regular season, but they're way higher in
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  the RPI or not way higher, like fourth on higher,
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  and I think it's like, I don't know. I think
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  for this next group, we should probably stick with Mississippi
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  State probably right in here. Maybe throw a Southern miss
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  What do y'all think?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? So? We I mean, like we talked about it
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  in our last our last show, we did this Texas
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  and Mississippi State series is probably a you know, wins,
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  it wins, it gets the gets the top eight seed.
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  Loser probably doesn't. A and M plays them at home.
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  I think we can kind of just assume the home
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  team there if we're gonna go one of those two. Yeah,
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  they're they're in this group. Mississippi State is definitely in
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  this group as in this group. Mississippi State's also in
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  this group.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot a few things hurt as Virginia
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  for being in this group, Southern miss It sounds like
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  it's like a basic thing to say, but like I
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  think it's true. If you don't win your conference as
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  a mid major, I don't think you can really be
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  like a like in this group, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Sure that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: So should we stick with these four teams and talk
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  about Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: That works? That works.
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  Speaker 4: So we're so we're going, I mean, this is seven, eight, nine, ten.
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  These are some big, big seeds we're talking about here.
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  Speaker 3: So if we're just listing, all right, RPI, Bama is six,
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  Florida State is seven, A M is ten, missipis DSR
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  A and M is seven, Florida State's eight, Mississippi State
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  is ten, Bama's down at thirteen. And then if we
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  go to KPI, Bama is eight, A, M is nine,
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  Florida State's ten, and Mississippi State is twelve.
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  Speaker 4: So they all kind of contradict each other there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no like one that really overwhelms those rankings.
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  I would say the most can Well no, I take
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  that back, actually, So.
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  Speaker 1: If it were let me, let me say this, and
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  then you guys piggyback off that. If that's okay, if
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  the order you've got on the screen there, Josh, I
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  would flip Mississippi and Florida States and then run it
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  that way. Even though I think A and M was
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  more consistently at the top of those rankings pools of
• 20:45
  that group into four, I think they were first, second, second,
• 20:50
  whereas Alabama was first, last and first.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: So, actually, the one thing I was thinking of this
• 20:55
  group is if you look at multiple things, if you
• 20:58
  look at all of those metrics, and if you look
• 21:00
  at things like quad one record and conference record and
• 21:04
  all that stuff, I think Mississippi State is clearly last
• 21:08
  of the group. Of that group, they are last in RPI,
• 21:14
  second to last in DSR, and last in KPI Quad
• 21:19
  one record. They are nine and eleven compared to Bama's
• 21:23
  twelve and eleven and M's twelve and eleven and Florida
• 21:27
  State's eight and ten, but it's relatively the same strength
• 21:32
  of schedule. They're also third in the group. They have
• 21:36
  a good road record, they're nine and five, so that
• 21:38
  helps them there. But in terms of I think there's
• 21:40
  a lot of things. I personally would have the last.
• 21:42
  It's just a matter of trying to figure out who
• 21:45
  is first. Bama has Ole missed this weekend?
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Correct?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: What's up to Will Dodge at home? Yes, Bama is
• 21:56
  at Old Miss or excuse me, Old Miss at Bama.
• 22:00
  So here's Josh kind of what I'm thinking that is,
• 22:02
  if we put if we put Florida State at nine,
• 22:06
  Mississippi State at ten, then we're kind of just right.
• 22:08
  I think we're kind of trying to decide seven and
• 22:10
  eight in what right?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: So you think Florida State is the clear third. I
• 22:15
  kind of agree, but I let me let me look
• 22:19
  at something real quick. I think that's probably about right.
• 22:24
  The Quad one record hurts, the Quad wan the Quad
• 22:27
  one and Quad two combined certainly is not in their
• 22:31
  favor compared to these other teams. They're also third in
• 22:33
  the type for third in the ACC. That bad sweep
• 22:39
  against Stanford isn't helping their case. They have who doesn't
• 22:45
  have this weekend? Shoot, I can probably.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Look Florida State, pas Miami.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: At home?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You got it right, it's whole Miss at Alabama and
• 23:05
  then of course stayed at Texas and them.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: So for seven eight. I guess the discussions between A
• 23:10
  and M and BAMA at this point because I think
• 23:13
  I agree with you, Jake. Are you on board with
• 23:14
  Florida State being nine Missippi State being ten? Does that
• 23:16
  feel right to you?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I think so. I mean if Mississippi State, like if
• 23:22
  they beat A and M, they but they get I
• 23:25
  think they get one of these two spots. But I
• 23:27
  think we can just kind of care. I think we
• 23:28
  can just kind of assume with A and M being
• 23:30
  the home team there, we can kind of just give
• 23:32
  them the nod. So that would probably put Mississippi State
• 23:38
  at ten. And I agree with Florida State. They had
• 23:41
  the least of menoquad one wins out of the group. Yeah,
• 23:48
  I think I think Florida State being nine is okay,
• 23:52
  all right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Bama and and they have the exact same quad one record,
• 23:59
  but Bama has five more Quad two wins, the same
• 24:02
  amount of Quad two losses. H A and M is
• 24:06
  a game and a half up on them in the
• 24:07
  SEC standings. But Bama's four spots higher in the r
• 24:11
  p I, although there's six spots lower in DSR, and
• 24:16
  they're like back to back in the KPI side to wash.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Something something here. If we're talking about Bama and A
• 24:23
  and M, Alabama has the number four strength of schedule.
• 24:28
  A and m's number twenty five, which isn't bad non conference,
• 24:32
  non conference, Bama's twenty six A and M is two
• 24:35
  oh nine non the schedule, which is which is bad.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, that's starring. I think that's a great point.
• 24:45
  I mean I was leaving Bama anyways, but I think
• 24:47
  that that could that could push me over the top
• 24:49
  because strength of schedule matters a ton in terms of
• 24:52
  RPI Andrews. They look at that metric in general. So
• 24:59
  right now, actually, as a matter of fact, this exact order,
• 25:02
  I haven't listened on the screen right here. Is that
• 25:03
  what we're looking up?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I think I like that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm okay with that further right now?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I also love the point that that Jake made a
• 25:15
  second to go just kind of touch back on it.
• 25:17
  I mean, obviously Mississippi State can win in college station.
• 25:21
  I think that's going to affect this. But this is
• 25:23
  something to remember at home too. This is a snapshot
• 25:26
  of where we are today with the knowledge we have
• 25:28
  today and what we're predicting for the rest of the season,
• 25:31
  so just keep that in mind, all right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: So we kind of discussed this beforehand. I think correct
• 25:38
  me if I'm wrong. Pretty clear these three in our
• 25:40
  next tier. Ay disagreements.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: No, I'm good with those three, all right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So Jake, you correct me if I'm wrong. Think Old
• 25:51
  Miss should be in this next group of this team?
• 25:53
  Is that correct?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: I had Ole Miss. I like them as a host
• 25:59
  at first glance. I mean, well, I think these three
• 26:03
  are probably ahead of them, So we can probably do
• 26:05
  these three and then talk about the.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Rest for what it's worth. I was actually going to
• 26:10
  suggest Old Miss in this group as well, but I
• 26:14
  would agree with Jake that I think let's poke holes
• 26:18
  in these three before we add All Miss to the mix.
• 26:20
  If that makes sense.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So the very clear advantage that one of
• 26:30
  these teams has above the rest is Florida's quad one wins.
• 26:34
  That is, that is the number one thing. Florida has
• 26:38
  fifteen quad one wins, compared to eight for Southern Miss
• 26:42
  and compared to eight for West Virginia. So I think
• 26:48
  that's a really big factor strength the schedule. Florida is
• 26:52
  two in the whole country. West Virginia is sixty seven.
• 26:55
  So then misses fourteen surprisingly lots of good weeks.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, Southern miss is nine RPI, Florida's twelve, West Virginia
• 27:05
  is eighteen. Anything Jarring and das are Southern misses down
• 27:10
  at twenty in DSR, West Virginia's nine, Florida's fifteen KPI,
• 27:17
  Florida's up at six, Southern miss is eleven, West Virginia
• 27:21
  is fourteen. So the DSR is the only thing that
• 27:24
  really loves West Virginia here.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of think Florida is just next.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the club one wins speak for themselves.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: And the point you made earlier about Southern miss not
• 27:38
  leading their conference, right, it's not a power conference. Not
• 27:41
  that the Sunbelt's bad or anything, but you know, I
• 27:44
  think Florida. I think Florida is eleven and then another two.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: So West Virginia Southern Miss uh one, West Virginia is
• 27:59
  eight and four. So missus eight and seven, quad one
• 28:02
  and two combined West Virginia's thirteen and nine. So then
• 28:05
  missus twenty one to nine. Southern miss is nine and
• 28:09
  the RPI compared to eighteen for West Virginia. So then
• 28:16
  misses a series win over Santa Barbara, couple big midweeks.
• 28:20
  West Virginia just came off that big sweep on the
• 28:22
  road at Kansas series over Arizona State Road Record, West
• 28:32
  Virginia's nineteen and seven, Southern Misses thirteen and eight. I
• 28:39
  think a lot of this ooh, my screen just got wit.
• 28:43
  Did not mean to do that. I think a lot
• 28:48
  of stuff your points towards Southern miss.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The twenty one and nine Q one Q two is
• 28:55
  is a big number compared to West Virginia thirteen and nine.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: For sure. That's the one thing that was really standing
• 29:00
  out to me.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Also, the strength.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Schedule is just a huge difference. Fourteen compared to sixty
• 29:07
  seven is just a.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, non non con strength to schedule two oh three
• 29:11
  for West Virginia.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Also seven for Southern mess That's I like the.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Southern miss at twelve and we're just gonna go with
• 29:19
  West Virginia at thirteen.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with it. I uh, the big
• 29:27
  the big twelve. Truth in me is wanting to rise
• 29:30
  up and fight, but you can't argue with numbers real quick.
• 29:33
  Didn't have a comment that I think is relevant to
• 29:35
  this next selection of teams. Uh Dodge at home says
• 29:38
  any Wake love for this region and curious what you
• 29:42
  guys think on that? Are we going to see Wake
• 29:44
  maybe sneak in at a fifteen or sixteen?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: See?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I personally don't think so right now. I mean, just
• 29:56
  like the number one thing that stands out to me
• 29:57
  about them is the seven fourteen in quad one. Also,
• 30:01
  they have a below five hundred record quads one and
• 30:03
  two combined. I think it's just now that said there
• 30:06
  could be a team in this range that we put
• 30:08
  in there that I'm gonna sound like a big hypocrite
• 30:10
  when they have a below five hundred quad one and
• 30:12
  two record, But that seven and fourteen's really jarring just
• 30:16
  for a host. Also six in the ACC. We'll get
• 30:20
  to them in the twos for sure, But I just
• 30:22
  I don't think they've really done enough to host Gods.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Why you think they should host? In the comments and
• 30:27
  we'll run it back though, if you make a good argument,
• 30:29
  pay why not?
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: So I think I said beforehand, I think there are
• 30:37
  I think I said there are six teams for these
• 30:39
  last three spots Ole miss Oregon State, Nebraska, Oregon, Kansas.
• 30:47
  There might only be five. I'm gonna be honest, I
• 30:49
  think Coastal's completely knocked themselves out of this conversation. Yeah,
• 30:55
  I personally think so do you do either of you
• 30:57
  think Coastal should be in this combo?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: No? This is the this is the group that I
• 31:03
  had as well for the rest.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: All right, so y'all sell me on ole, miss.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I think, o miss? I mean, I don't know you
• 31:17
  just you just talked about the Nagadi the below five hundred.
• 31:22
  He literally did, I don't know, oh, miss, they have
• 31:27
  fourteen sec wins.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Who do they planning this week?
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: They are playing Alabama?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Number three?
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Not easy? Number three strength to schedule was the was
• 31:38
  what I was getting ready to say. They have zero
• 31:42
  they have zero Q three Q four losses. There's not
• 31:45
  a ton of teams that have that number.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: That is that is nice.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I think I don't know if they get to if
• 31:53
  they take one from Bama. I mean, what's their RPI
• 31:57
  going to be at? They're thirteen right now. I think
• 32:01
  like the predicted thing I saw earlier, it was like fifteen,
• 32:03
  they're gonna end up with probably a top sixteen RPI
• 32:06
  DSR there sixteen, which is I think third in this group.
• 32:12
  I don't know what they are KPI. I mean, I
• 32:18
  could be sweet I had I had them in as
• 32:21
  a host. Why do you do you think they shouldn't
• 32:23
  be Oh Miss?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: When I was going through it, they didn't really I'm
• 32:28
  not necessarily opposed to it at all, but they didn't
• 32:30
  really stand out their night in the SEC. Like I
• 32:38
  mentioned with Wake, they have a negative. They have a
• 32:41
  below five hundred quad one and two record combined, they're
• 32:43
  fifteen and eighteen. And granted that is a lot of wins.
• 32:46
  They have ten quad one wins.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: M what about this? Let's use Old Miss as a
• 32:53
  measuring stick. Josh, Okay, why do you prefer Oregon State
• 32:57
  to Old Miss?
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I do. It's the it's the other ones.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: This is yeah, pick another one then, like, let's Oregon
• 33:06
  or Nebraska.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Let's talk a let me all right, let me go
• 33:09
  through this.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So hmmm, Well, Oregon and Nebraska are kind of a
• 33:16
  big old say.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Burger, right, And so I don't know if I don't
• 33:20
  really want to use head to head as the determinant
• 33:23
  factor here because I don't really think that matters too
• 33:27
  much per se.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Nebraska other than head to head, and I
• 33:34
  guess Q one Q two record, they're they're pretty similar,
• 33:36
  but I guess Oregon kind of has them there, but
• 33:38
  everything else is kind of Nebraska over Oregon.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think that Oregon is also going to match Nebraska's
• 33:46
  top win this weekend by at least one. I mean,
• 33:49
  if you think Oregon takes the series from USC, then
• 33:52
  they're going to match Nebraska's top win, and then I
• 33:55
  think that you're gonna have u c l A still
• 33:57
  as a win for Oregon.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Nebraska's a that's gonna be a big RPI boost if
• 34:03
  they beat USC also.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: So at this point that is true. At this point,
• 34:10
  I'm more looking for a reason to not want any
• 34:13
  of the either of these teams. The only thing I
• 34:16
  can find for either team that's kind of glaring. Organ's
• 34:20
  KPI is twenty nine, Nebraska is seventeen. The strength the
• 34:26
  schedules are similar non con and non con leans Nebraska.
• 34:31
  Nebraska has them in Quad one Quade two combined is Oregon.
• 34:37
  Road record is Oregon. It's close, but I don't know.
• 34:45
  So here's another thing. I don't know if we can
• 34:47
  have them both in because I don't know if there
• 34:49
  could be three Big Three hosts.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, I think there's they're close enough. And honestly,
• 34:58
  you guys know it, because if you've listened to now
• 35:00
  you at home would do it. I've been on the
• 35:02
  Oregon is Fraudulent train literally the entire season until Sunday night.
• 35:06
  So I mean, it's not gonna take much pushing for
• 35:09
  me to say, Hi, yeah, okay, Nebraska.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: But so if we're projecting here, here's the other thing.
• 35:14
  If we're projecting here, we do think I would imagine
• 35:21
  that Oregon is probably going to beat usc this weekend at.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Least two to one.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I would say, correct, so too, it's so that will
• 35:30
  help the RPI because of how high Us' is RPI
• 35:33
  is obviously, I think that would end up boosting them
• 35:39
  in most metrics. I think I would. I would give
• 35:42
  it the Oregon to be in USC is.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: A USC is at eight, they take two out of three.
• 35:49
  I mean, I don't know how to predict the number. Oregon.
• 35:51
  What are they RP on number twenty? They're going to
• 35:54
  be a top sixteen r PI if they if they
• 35:56
  win this series, probably Oregon probably gets one of these
• 36:03
  last three. I agree. If we're if we're gonna say
• 36:06
  that they're gonna beat.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: USC another thing we haven't discussed that. I mean, like
• 36:09
  resume wise actually stacks up really well. Here is Kansas.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I was just looking at Kansas.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: The RPI is not really in their favor. It's twenty two,
• 36:21
  but they're fourteen in DSR, twenty one in KPI. But
• 36:25
  everything else helps them out a lot. They're first in
• 36:29
  the Big twelve, eighteen and ten on the road, nine
• 36:33
  to six quad in one quad one records, sixteen eleven
• 36:36
  Quad one and two combined. But I think the big
• 36:39
  kicker would be like they are, barring some upset, like
• 36:44
  some unforeseen upset, they are going to win the Big
• 36:46
  twelve regular season really really quick.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Josh, not to jump off of Kansas Dodgers made a
• 36:51
  good point in the comments I want to show up.
• 36:53
  Gotta remember for Oregon, any USC win this weekend is
• 36:56
  a quad one first, So that squad one wins, that's
• 37:01
  a good point in terms of Yeah, I.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Think the point that he could be trying to make
• 37:05
  for USC is like, anyone that USC wins, that's their
• 37:08
  first on the year.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Oh he could Yeah, that's a good point.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I think the only hope USC
• 37:16
  has at getting any other ones is like, does you know,
• 37:20
  does UCSB get into that range.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Or they they could take some in Omaha meaning Omaha
• 37:27
  the Big Ten Tournament.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if they if they get one another one
• 37:31
  against Oregon or somebody else. Yeah, but even then, if
• 37:35
  they end up with like three or four, like I
• 37:42
  don't know, after State, Oregon State sitting here at a
• 37:44
  three and four.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So a lot of.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Things point towards it looking good for Oregon State except
• 37:50
  that there's just some roadblock. I can't get past my
• 37:52
  mind for giving a team that has three quad one
• 37:54
  wins and they're missing their best player.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, and if we're talking about or small sample size,
• 38:01
  but four quad one losses is more important to me
• 38:05
  than three quad one wins. If you're gonna have seven opportunities,
• 38:08
  you lose more than I mean, you lose four of them.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I think, all right, that's a good point.
• 38:15
  I think there's three that I like that stand out
• 38:18
  to me here. I don't know if you'll agree. If
• 38:21
  y'all do speak up, I'll hear yours first, and then well,
• 38:23
  I'll well if.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: You want really quickly. We do have another quick comment
• 38:28
  from Dodge as it relates to wake for us. Josh,
• 38:30
  if you want to just shoot him down from thirty
• 38:32
  feet out.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: He says he's a fan of look at Elo rankings,
• 38:35
  which does a good job in rewarding games you weren't
• 38:37
  supposed to win and uh, punishing games you were supposed
• 38:40
  to win. Wake is number six in those in those games.
• 38:44
  Also said, admittedly that's going to heavily reward their midweek successes.
• 38:48
  All that being what it is, I would still kind
• 38:50
  of put Wake in that kind of jumbling with like
• 38:54
  Oregon State as my kind of last dogs at the
• 38:58
  bowl of this group.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: So here's my thing with that. I do like wag
• 39:01
  Like in general, I like them, but if I'm trying
• 39:03
  to predict what the committee is doing, they don't look
• 39:05
  at Eelo like that's not on their sheet to my knowledge,
• 39:09
  So that's not something they are supposed to take into account.
• 39:13
  Should they That's a different conversation, but like I don't
• 39:16
  think they will. So yeah, that that's that's the only
• 39:20
  thing there. Yeah, anyway, I think all right, So I
• 39:30
  like almost organ in Kansas. I think I.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Think that would be my three here as well too, Jake.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: So we're agreeing that I think I'm or not. I
• 39:43
  don't want to say, to say it like that sounds rude.
• 39:46
  In Oregon State, I don't think is a host.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I can't give the three quad one wins a host.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: And then so we're just deciding basically, I guess, I
• 39:56
  guess Kansas Nebraska. If we think, if we think we're
• 40:00
  gonna if we're gonna beat USC in the series, they're
• 40:02
  probably gonna be a host. So we think we're gonna
• 40:04
  pick Kansas over Nebraska is what it is kind of
• 40:09
  right now?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I think my one of my only
• 40:14
  LANs there beyond that is just again kind of like
• 40:17
  what Josh said a minute ago, are we're gonna have
• 40:19
  three big ten hosts.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Kansas is also two and oh against Nebraska this year.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: That's good. That's a great point. Yeah, Okay, what.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Order are you leaning then, Josh?
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: That's the trickier part. I think, man, putting West Virginia
• 40:39
  Kansas back to back is tough because the conference standings
• 40:43
  and head to head yeah contradict each other. I think, okay,
• 40:52
  how about this, since y'all both like ole miss is
• 40:56
  that fourteenth team initially, should we do that?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I see your logic. I see your logic there all right,
• 41:10
  So I kind of like it in the I kind
• 41:12
  of like it in the order. You have it right
• 41:13
  there almost.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Too, Let's run that part of me.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: M the only the only thing not to cut you off,
• 41:23
  the only thing. Like, again, if we're predicting Oregon to
• 41:27
  beat USC, how however a boost does that give them?
• 41:29
  Does that? Does that just put them ahead of all?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Miss? Actually, if we're going strictly like a snapshot of
• 41:35
  right now, I actually like Kansas above Orgon, but predicting
• 41:39
  what the USC series does for Oregon would probably.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Give them a boost. Mm hmm.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Like if we're going snapshot of just right now, Kansas
• 41:51
  better quad one record better quad one and two record
• 41:54
  combined RPIs are almost the same. Yes, are has Kansas
• 42:01
  as fourteen and as Oregon is twenty two? Uh, schedule
• 42:08
  is like pretty much the same. Kansas has eighteen road wins,
• 42:14
  Like it's like.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: They're also they're also playing at b y U this weekend,
• 42:20
  so there's a chance to get three more. Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Also, at least I think it just goes part of
• 42:26
  it goes back to Oregon might not even finish top
• 42:30
  four in their conference. They might, but like as of
• 42:32
  right now, they're tied for fourth in their conference, and
• 42:34
  Kansas is gonna win the third best conference.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, we can do. We can do Kansas right
• 42:41
  behind West Virginia.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Then at fourteen, I would say ole Miss fourteen fourteen.
• 42:49
  I'll flat with you on that, Okay, all right, So
• 42:59
  it was all right seeds for anyone listening on audio,
• 43:04
  I'll just run down it starting at UCLA, Georgia, Tech, Georgia, Auburn, Texas,
• 43:11
  North Carolina, Alabama, Texas, and m Those are your national seeds.
• 43:17
  The Florida State, Mississippi State, Florida, Southern Miss, West Virginia,
• 43:23
  Ole Miss, Kansas, Oregon. So now I guess we can
• 43:28
  just debate Nebraska Oregon State for the next one. Actually, wait,
• 43:32
  as a matter of fact, we don't have a choice
• 43:35
  because of the conference thing. We have to put Oregon
• 43:37
  State here in Nebraska here because Nebraska and organ could
• 43:40
  not be in the same regional.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Correct, So Oregon has also played Oregon State.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Right, And so I know not they try not to
• 43:50
  do that, but I'm pretty sure like the conference thing
• 43:52
  is they can't, Like there's like they explicitly can't James
• 43:55
  in the same conference there. Yeah, but they tried to
• 44:01
  routine like rematches. But they can you know, so.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Dodge may have seen through us. He said, to see
• 44:07
  what y'all are doing? T in Oregon at U c
• 44:09
  l a back up for part two.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm not saying I would be opposed a super
• 44:18
  regional run them back?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: So Oregon State here here, little Midwest Battle and Lawrence there.
• 44:35
  All right? So the next group, I think is where
• 44:39
  we have coastal what forest USC I put Cincy in
• 44:47
  this group.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I was just what to say.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if anybody else gets the Arkansas.
• 45:01
  I could, I could hear you out the.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Virginia.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Arkansas and Virginia would be the maybies
• 45:09
  in that team.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Arkansas, I could definite the Arkansas in here. I think
• 45:15
  there's a lot of things that don't love Virginia. But
• 45:19
  I mean, like the standings and all, like the they're
• 45:21
  twenty three in RPI, twenty three in KPI, twenty four
• 45:26
  in DSR. That would kind of throw them in this range.
• 45:29
  I just I'm not too fond of them as a whole.
• 45:32
  That's just my first opinion.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Anybody that listened to the last episode of college baseball.
• 45:37
  Now literally heard you saying, other than X and Y,
• 45:41
  what does this team have to give you confidence?
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean like yeah, yeah, do y'all. I mean,
• 45:47
  this is a committee of three. Do you want to
• 45:49
  put Virginia in this group?
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I mean we can leave, we can save them for
• 45:53
  the next group if you don't like them here.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I would agree with Jake. I think I can go
• 45:57
  with or without them.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, so Coastal Wake Forest USC since in Arkansas, So
• 46:06
  I think just the USC is so weird, Like this
• 46:11
  is like such an all time outlier of a resume.
• 46:15
  They are eight in the RPI without a single quad
• 46:18
  one win and their strength of schedule is only forty.
• 46:23
  I just don't like it. Sounds like this. I would
• 46:25
  just love to see how on earth that formula works,
• 46:28
  because if you look at the other ones, DSR has
• 46:32
  them at twenty one, KPI is them at twenty two,
• 46:39
  but they're eleven and one in quad two.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Let's see. I mean, they're gonna end up. They're gonna
• 46:50
  end up in this range, Like the RPI is gonna
• 46:53
  be too high for them to not have them in
• 46:55
  this range. Even they're they're playing organ on the road.
• 46:57
  Even if they lose the series, it's not to drop
• 47:00
  them out of the top. You know, probably twelve or
• 47:05
  fifteen RPI spots. I had to guess. Yeah, so they're
• 47:10
  gonna be in this range, whether they have the wins
• 47:15
  or not.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: If we're going, just if I wasn't looking, if it
• 47:20
  wasn't for that quad one record, I would like, I
• 47:26
  would like Wake Forest here, But a seven and fourteen
• 47:28
  quad one record just kind of jumps off the page
• 47:32
  and not a good way. They're sixteen in RPI, they're
• 47:36
  twelve in DSR, and they're fifteen in KPI.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think you're talking me into Wake.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's what I'm saying. Like they have
• 47:44
  eight shriek of schedule. I think we might not have
• 47:46
  a choice. Like I think it's just that one thing
• 47:49
  that's going to you.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's Wake if we're going, if we're going,
• 47:54
  like looking at records and everything, it's Wake over USC right,
• 47:58
  I mean the record, the more they have, more wins.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: All the metrics that the committee would look at is
• 48:05
  telling you this has to be Wake here.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: So Wake Forest plays at Duke this weekend, Yeah, which
• 48:18
  would be what you two right.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think they just
• 48:27
  have to pick up a couple of wins in Charlotte
• 48:30
  both the RPI ad just accordingly and congratulations Will Dodge,
• 48:33
  I hope nineteen is good enough for you.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Chime in at home, well you won will count? This
• 48:42
  is it? So one thing I want to point out here,
• 48:44
  just looking at the conferences thing, this can't be Cincinnati
• 48:49
  and Arkansas will have to go in the next two.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: That is a great point.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So I guess the next question would be which of
• 49:02
  these teams do you absolutely prefer to Arkansas? If that's
• 49:06
  going to be the case, I think Arkansas should be
• 49:07
  your measuring stick for the next two picks, if that's
• 49:10
  the case. Dodge at home relishing in his relishing, in
• 49:16
  his half of the victory.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: So pretty much Coastal and USC two resumes. I gets like, so.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Kind of feels like, so Coastal cannot go with Southern
• 49:33
  miss correct.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: And I was just looking at this, I I think
• 49:38
  that is going.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: To be in Gaine's hardcore boys.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I think Coastal. So there's one thing that really stands
• 49:44
  off stands out here. Coastal's non conference think of schedule
• 49:47
  is three in the country. Yeah, thirty one overall, they're
• 49:53
  thirteen and six on the road. The issue with their
• 49:56
  resume being they have eight quad three and four losses combined.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I was about to say that their losses are ugly.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of feel like, I don't know, I
• 50:08
  just feel like, whether we like it or not, USC
• 50:12
  might just be next. Am I wrong for saying that?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You might not be wrong. I just
• 50:19
  hate it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I hate it because because especially if they avoid a
• 50:29
  sweep at Oregon, which I don't think we can predict
• 50:31
  them to get swept.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: No, so what would be what would be our argument
• 50:39
  against Arkansas just being here.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Which, like you said, I mean, they have to get
• 50:48
  one of the next two if we're putting them in
• 50:50
  this run sixteen.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: KPI, nineteen DSR twenty seven rpi in Kentucky schedule, there's
• 51:02
  six in the sec although we're at the point and
• 51:04
  that's where that might not matter as much. Yeah, twelve
• 51:08
  quad one wins. That's uh, that's a thing that you
• 51:13
  can say.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Zero.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I think something that's interesting for you all at home,
• 51:20
  just talking about Arkansas's quad one and then versus their
• 51:23
  quad one and two. Arkansas played twenty three Quad one
• 51:26
  games that were split into a twelve and eleven record.
• 51:29
  They added another six games, and of those six won
• 51:33
  those four and two in Quad two. Most of their
• 51:36
  major opponents are gonna be Quad one as of this,
• 51:40
  So I just think that's impressive. One thing to throw
• 51:42
  out there is that if they're gonna play the bulk
• 51:44
  of a Quad one and two in the Quad one
• 51:46
  section of that, I would say that's impressive kind of
• 51:49
  regardless of the record.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: In a sense, I'm gonna be honest, I'm looking at
• 51:54
  all of this and I that there's just no correct
• 51:56
  answer for this group. Like I think you could put
• 51:58
  these four in any order. I mean, there's a thing.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: The only thing that stands out if we're gonna if
• 52:04
  we're arguing between USC and Arkansas, it's it's USC is
• 52:09
  number eight in the RPI. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
• 52:16
  don't see USC dropping that much.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: What would your answer be to zero quad one wins
• 52:22
  eight Quad one losses, Jake, That's my only thing, And
• 52:24
  if you can sell me on that, I'm with you.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: I don't have an answer for that because I don't
• 52:28
  like that either.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Strength to schedule favors Arkansas, non guns, strength, the schedule
• 52:38
  favors USC.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I'll say this from a geographic perspective, I think Arkansas
• 52:45
  Southern miss makes a lot of sense to me.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: So when I was kind of thinking, if I were
• 52:51
  you have to rank these four, which you know we
• 52:53
  are going to have to, I think I would go.
• 52:58
  I think USC, Arkansas, all Sincy, Coastal is how I
• 53:03
  would do it.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I'd flip Coastal and Sense. But I'm with you otherwise.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll put those first two in that order, if
• 53:09
  Jake's good with it, and then we can talk Sency. Coastal.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you would c to West Virginia and then Arkansas, Southern.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Arkansas to Southern Mess all right. Coastal Sinsey. Did I
• 53:29
  say since you before Coastal?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I think you did.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, yeah, I think I think that's where I stand. Ooh,
• 53:38
  that DSR is bad for Sincy. What is it? Twenty
• 53:44
  five for Coastal? Yeah, although the KPI is twenty for Sincy,
• 53:50
  twenty five for Coastal.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: RPI twenty one Sincy, twenty five for Coastal.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Cincinnati they play, they play take Tech at home.
• 54:01
  That's gonna bring them down a little bit unfortunately, and
• 54:05
  then Coastal plays at Louisiana, which is good for them.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I would help them.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna defer to you guys here because this is
• 54:18
  kind of razor thin in my brain. I know what
• 54:20
  I would lean, but I'm going to defer to you guys.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: I kind of like, I kind of like sensey over them.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I very slightly lean that way. The more things I
• 54:32
  look at, the moster it gets.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: So I mean, it's more Q one wins, it's more
• 54:39
  Q one Q two wins. They're both positive in both
• 54:42
  of those records. Coastal has eight Q three Q four losses.
• 54:46
  You already mentioned that earlier. Ye, since he's three, I
• 54:51
  think our I mean the DSRs a little ugly. I
• 54:55
  think if the RPI holds after this weekend, they'll be
• 54:59
  okay with that number being lower.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I think I'm with you on since he being higher.
• 55:03
  If you work to make the argument for Coastal, I
• 55:05
  think Coastal is a better road record non conference Street
• 55:09
  the schedules three compared to sixty seven, and that DSR
• 55:12
  ranking is a big gap. It's twenty five for Coastal
• 55:15
  compared to thirty nine for Cincy I think since he
• 55:18
  has more points in their favor. But if you were
• 55:21
  to make the coastal argument, I think that's what it
• 55:22
  would be.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I think we can all. I think we're all kind
• 55:26
  of feeling since the first.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I think coastal. I'm fine with that. Nope, coastal, that's cool.
• 55:40
  Those are some rednecks in Starkville. Good lord, Hey, hey, hey, hey, look,
• 55:46
  you're not a state fan. You just might happen to
• 55:48
  be there if you want to.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Actually, looking at this, I don't know whether I'd want
• 55:51
  to go to Oxford or Sharkville, but I'm into both
• 55:53
  of it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Thus far fair enough? All right? So next group, this
• 55:57
  would be Virginia.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Both Oklahoma teams in this mix.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: I cannot in my life. DC is definitely in here, dude,
• 56:10
  can I copy and paste? Thank you? All right? I
• 56:18
  think that's gonna be kind of work.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Are we there on Jack State yet?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe Jack State if we're wanting to.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Get froggy, Okay, I don't hate that. I'm just glancing
• 56:33
  around real quick. I think they could slip.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Into this range.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe we can, Yeah, we can. We can throw them
• 56:40
  in there for sure.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: So this is five teams. Yeah, we have four more
• 56:49
  after this. For the rest of the two seeds, all right, Virginia, Oklahoma,
• 56:58
  Oklahoma State, Boston Cop excuse me, Boston College Jacksonville State
• 57:11
  now is really glaringly above the rest. I would say
• 57:22
  if it weren't for the quad one record, I think
• 57:23
  Oklahoma has kind of a leg up here.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, none of them. Oklahoma, Virginia, Oklahoma
• 57:33
  State are all below five hundred Q one, and Boston
• 57:38
  College is also below five hundred Q one. If you
• 57:44
  look at that, Oklahoma as the most Q one wins.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: It's true also the most opportunities by good margin.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: They also have zero Q three Q four losses compared
• 57:53
  to the others. I have three and four.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: So I think I think Virginia does have an argument
• 58:02
  here where there's stuff go. I just had them on
• 58:07
  my screen. Here they are, Yeah, sixteen and fourteen one two.
• 58:13
  All the KPI, DSR and RPI are within the top
• 58:19
  twenty five. I don't think any of these other teams
• 58:21
  can say that.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: If we're gonna go with Oklahoma in one of the
• 58:28
  next three spots, they have to go in this one.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: This one.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: That's a great Okay, I'm gonna do that because they
• 58:34
  were gonna be my next team. I was leaning towards
• 58:36
  because I don't think you can reasonably put any of
• 58:38
  the others in Virginia and Virginia either. Yeah, I would
• 58:43
  go Virginia next.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I agree, Then you should be clear other than BC. Yeah.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, man?
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: How sick would Alabama Jack State be?
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Wow?
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I think most stuff.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, I'm gonna make sure this is right
• 59:09
  before I say it. All right, Yeah, I think most
• 59:14
  everything is pointing pretty glaringly towards this being Oklahoma State.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen and thirteen, quad one and two, record twenty
• 59:27
  four and RPI. They are twenty seven and KPI, but
• 59:33
  they're all the way up. It's eighteen in DSR thirty three.
• 59:37
  Strength of schedule is way better than any of these others.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: M hmm. I think Ocloma States next.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: I think that they're playing Arizona. They're gonna probably should
• 59:50
  They're gonna win all three of those.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Going to Carolina and Boston College going to Texas.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Okay. I like it though.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: How happy JB was last week when he said that
• 1:00:03
  Jack State was going to Carolina. That's how we figured
• 1:00:05
  it out well, second week in row.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Congrats, way to go, JB. Go enjoy something European.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: JB's am I at this point, he doesn't even he
• 1:00:14
  doesn't like us. All right, Last two seed group Santa.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Barbara, Tennessee.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I already know where we're putting Tennessee obviously. I
• 1:00:25
  mean it's it's it's a given.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: I think, well, there's only two spots. I think you
• 1:00:30
  see f goes this group?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Oh you see? Yes?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Uh, I think so, My man, I'm wrong. I like
• 1:00:39
  it mostly your point, but at least they'll be a discussion.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Is Tucky Kentucky? Missouri State? Question mark? I'd see them
• 1:00:52
  more as a three.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say Missouri State, I think is
• 1:00:56
  in this group? Only look at Miami? Do we just
• 1:01:08
  all right? You know what, Look, I'm just gonna I'm
• 1:01:11
  throwing them all up here, forget it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think UTSA is like sniffing this.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I think this is I think this is the last
• 1:01:20
  of the groups.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the last. These are the last six
• 1:01:24
  for sure.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: What is the selling point for anything? Is there any
• 1:01:35
  team here that has like one thing that I'm really
• 1:01:40
  boosted above the rest? I'm thinking congratulations to you guys,
• 1:01:46
  because I think this is probably pretty clearly Tennessee.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I'm actually leaning toward wait.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Wait, Tennessee can't go Georgia and Alburn.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I think Santa Barbara's next, because the only metric that
• 1:01:58
  I could think of with well, actually, shoot, I love that.
• 1:02:05
  First of all, that was where my head was going.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I think it has to because I would put them
• 1:02:08
  pretty clearly enough and they just can't go to all I.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Can't go there. So just based on that, I think
• 1:02:19
  that also means Kentucky's gonna go to LA unless we
• 1:02:24
  like two teams. Yeah, I mean right, yeah, another one better.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Than them, I think, I agree. I think this is Santa.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I think Santa Barbara here. Perhaps let's consider this Santa
• 1:02:41
  Barbara's major wins a U C L A win which
• 1:02:44
  is a rare thing, Southern miss win wins over USC
• 1:02:49
  and Oregon. Yeah, all Top sixteen hosts.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: The thing for the thing for UCSB, I mean, not
• 1:02:58
  to drag them down. They have ten Q three Q
• 1:03:00
  four losses, yeah, which is way more than any one
• 1:03:05
  or two c we have.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: So far BSRs down at thirty seven. Their KPI is
• 1:03:09
  thirty six. Although They're RPI is thirty four.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: And six in quad win games is not.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Ideal big selling point for them. Their non constrength of
• 1:03:19
  schedule is two.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is good.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like I haven't seen that yet. I'm
• 1:03:27
  curious who who's.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Who would we be other than UCSB Maybe UCF, I
• 1:03:34
  think as well, Like.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Next, That's what I was thinking. Oh, number one non
• 1:03:37
  contrary to schedule in the country, cal State Fullerton shout out,
• 1:03:41
  shout out full That's the only time they've been shout
• 1:03:45
  out on a bracketology podcast the entire year in all
• 1:03:47
  of America.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tip a glass to Fullerton before I take
• 1:03:51
  U swig.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: So I agree on the UCF thing eight and eight,
• 1:03:55
  Quad one, fifteen and fourteen, quad one and two thirty
• 1:03:59
  one an RPI twenty seven ds are They're like, yeah,
• 1:04:03
  they're I'm not like UCF, You're better.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Actually, I think UF to Auburn.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that actually probably the way to go.
• 1:04:10
  There's a lot of things that they lean but I
• 1:04:13
  definitely think Santa Barbara's over the other.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: And then and then I guess Santa Barbara. I mean,
• 1:04:19
  we've had them going to UCLA every time I think.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Well, Santa Barbara, if we're if they're next, I would
• 1:04:25
  have Santa Barbara going to Georgia Drew like them next
• 1:04:30
  to unless I'll put the.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll I'll just from geographic perspective.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Well wait, hold that is okay, they are put in
• 1:04:38
  pods technically like it's twenty nine through thirty two, we
• 1:04:40
  would technically like Santa Barbara going to UCLA would make
• 1:04:43
  sense here.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I do think that as as as kind of chalky
• 1:04:47
  as it is based on what Jake is saying. With
• 1:04:48
  what you guys have done. Now, I mean it can't
• 1:04:54
  be Kentucky.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: I about saying that said it can't be Kentucky.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: I mean it could be Kentucky if we just did
• 1:05:03
  UCSB to Georgia.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: True, Kentucky is above Well no, because a lot of
• 1:05:11
  the metrics are pretty even here. This is actually way
• 1:05:16
  tighter between these three teams than I thought.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Jake, you would you think Kentucky is the clear best
• 1:05:21
  of those three? Is that right?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Uh? That's not I was just saying, if we think
• 1:05:26
  it's Kentucky, then like we can make a spot for
• 1:05:28
  him just by moving UCSB.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: To Georgia. Okay, I'm just making sure I'm on the
• 1:05:34
  page with you before we go further.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: So, Miami has the quad one and two record advantage
• 1:05:39
  over these other teams by a decent amount. Miami is
• 1:05:44
  also leading the way in kp I.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: I kind of don't think it's Missouri State. Okay, they're
• 1:05:51
  fifty one DSR compared to the other two or twenty
• 1:05:55
  nine thirty two.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I was just about to say.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: That, I don't know what the KPI is for those teams.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: But KPI Missouri State's thirty eight, Miami's twenty six, Kentucky's
• 1:06:06
  twenty eight. I think the rating systems, like all the
• 1:06:10
  metrics are a wash for Kentucky Miami because they're all
• 1:06:12
  so similar and contradict each other.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: The strength the schedules are really close to.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, these two teams are super close. I mean,
• 1:06:20
  in that case, I think we just Miami.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: We could I think, never mind, go ahead, No.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say Miami because I mean, we
• 1:06:30
  wouldn't have to rearrange things and we could throw them
• 1:06:32
  at Georgia.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think I think the
• 1:06:37
  argument for Miami. They there, they have three more Q
• 1:06:42
  one Q two wins. They're positive in that section, they
• 1:06:45
  have less Q three Q four losses than Kentucky. The
• 1:06:51
  only thing is like the metrics are slightly favoring Kentucky.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: I guess Kentucky is that sweep over Bama. But Miami
• 1:06:58
  has serious wins over Wake Forest, and you see f
• 1:07:05
  I think I lean Miami here disagreements.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: I think I do too.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, so we're over an hour into
• 1:07:17
  this thing and the part has come. I'm dealing with
• 1:07:21
  this just god awful bubble.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: As it became known recently, the dirty bubble.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Thank you, I'm scared, brace yourself. All right, there's one
• 1:07:35
  by one. I guess we can go through and break
• 1:07:38
  this down. So off rip. Arizona State does not have
• 1:07:43
  nearly as much of a compelling case as you would think.
• 1:07:45
  I know, we like them as a team, but there's
• 1:07:49
  not a single thing that stands out to you. They
• 1:07:52
  have sub five hundred records in quad one and quad
• 1:07:55
  one and two combined. They are forty seven in the
• 1:07:58
  RPI thirty and the DSR and thirty five and KPI,
• 1:08:05
  which I guess like in terms of just getting in
• 1:08:07
  the tournament, those numbers are probably good enough that eleven
• 1:08:16
  and five road record pretty good.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: They've been very good on the road, and I think
• 1:08:23
  you kind of you didn't glaze over it by any means,
• 1:08:27
  because this is a kind of almost startlingly mid if
• 1:08:33
  not bad case, you know. Yeah, but I think that
• 1:08:37
  the I think that there's enough good to kind of
• 1:08:39
  heap them in past the bubble. But where is going
• 1:08:43
  to be very interesting, do you know what I mean?
• 1:08:48
  I like them better than some of these teams, but
• 1:08:50
  the margin I think is going to surprise even me,
• 1:08:52
  and I've been banging the drum for a su all year.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I think they're like in just a matter of with you.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Shoot, I mean I could be convinced otherflise still. I
• 1:09:05
  mean there's teams who we have on the bubble here
• 1:09:07
  who are just as good. Surprising, Yeah, I mean.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: If we have them in like I mean, we're in
• 1:09:17
  the three seeds now, that's where they're gonna be.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Do we feel good enough about I mean, I think
• 1:09:23
  they're ahead of enough of these other teams to where
• 1:09:27
  they can be a three seed.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I agree with that, I think so.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, just looking at the teams we have listed,
• 1:09:37
  I think I mean, if you want to just put
• 1:09:39
  them like to the right of that list and just say, like,
• 1:09:43
  let's go through the other ones first.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: All right, hold up, I'm gonna do this.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. I feel what you're doing there, Josh, all right,
• 1:09:51
  I like, all right.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I think all right, in terms of these other teams here,
• 1:09:58
  I think this is pretty quick. I think Liberty is
• 1:10:00
  definitely definitely in thirty seven RPI series went over Jack
• 1:10:04
  State fifteen thirteen, Quad one and two combined seventeen and
• 1:10:11
  five road record That that's Sirens thirty two KPI. Yeah,
• 1:10:19
  I think I think Liberty is definitely in. In terms
• 1:10:22
  of the best thirty five at large teams, I think
• 1:10:23
  they're definitely one of those spots. I agree, all right,
• 1:10:34
  this is the last week. I I hate the a
• 1:10:38
  CEC so much. Am I going to watch their tournament
• 1:10:41
  next week?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: But like, oh, I hate the middle of the a
• 1:10:43
  SEC so much.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get to love it now, buddy, you better
• 1:10:47
  get you better get used to it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: To make it easy, I want one or two of
• 1:10:51
  these teams just to go on runs, so it just
• 1:10:53
  makes everything super super easy.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Like they're okay, let's predict that then, who are the
• 1:10:57
  most likely ones to go on runs? Josh, of this
• 1:11:02
  group of your ACC cluster, who do you think is
• 1:11:05
  your run worthy squad?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: I plead the fifth.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I think you love NC State, and I think they
• 1:11:13
  have enough talent where it could happen. I just don't
• 1:11:16
  want to be the one saying it's gonna happen.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: So here's a way to look at that. If here's
• 1:11:21
  the tournament bracket. If it were to be played today,
• 1:11:24
  State would play Duke in the first game, and the
• 1:11:26
  winner of that they would go on to play Virginia Tech.
• 1:11:29
  So State in Virginia Tech would play each other. Pitt's
• 1:11:33
  path would be Louisville and then Miami, then Boston College.
• 1:11:41
  I think I don't know what I think. I don't
• 1:11:46
  know what I think anymore about anything.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: I think based on what you just said, I think
• 1:11:51
  State and Pitt are safe bets to give two of
• 1:11:54
  these spots, and then we can argue against them later
• 1:11:57
  if we need to.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: I think both of their offenses are good enough to
• 1:12:00
  carry them through. Personally, I think I gotta see the
• 1:12:05
  resume backs them up. Florida State's forty one RPI pits
• 1:12:07
  forty six. State has a negative quad one and quad
• 1:12:14
  one plus quad two record. Pitts record in those also
• 1:12:19
  both below five hundred. State is six and eleven on
• 1:12:23
  the road, woolf Pittsburgh ten and twelve on the road
• 1:12:29
  also woof, but not as much.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Kit's also ten and seventeen in acc play, where the
• 1:12:35
  other two both have are thirteen fourteen.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a big So that's a really big thing.
• 1:12:39
  They're tied for thirteenth in their conference. I think that
• 1:12:44
  holds weight. They have Notre Dame this weekend at home,
• 1:12:49
  so that could help, but as it stands right now,
• 1:12:52
  they are thirteenth in their conference.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think everything does everything kind of
• 1:13:02
  say that Virginia Tech is probably ahead of this group
• 1:13:09
  if we're looking at these three a SEC teams, So.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: The metrics would tell you, yes, yes, they have more.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: They have more Q one and Q one Q two wins,
• 1:13:25
  better strengthen schedules.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: They're the only one who doesn't have a negative road record. Yeah,
• 1:13:32
  I think Virginia Tech is in I would I would pretty.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Safely say that I think so too, and we can
• 1:13:40
  save the well, I guess we need to talk about
• 1:13:43
  it now. I guess the NC State pit but I
• 1:13:47
  think just being so low on the standings. I don't
• 1:13:50
  know how you can argue they should be ahead of
• 1:13:52
  NC State if we're gonna put them in. I think
• 1:14:00
  if we're gonna put one of those two in it,
• 1:14:02
  I think I would go and see state first.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: All right, I think we can. I'm gonna look at
• 1:14:14
  some of these others compared to like East Carolina. Fifty
• 1:14:21
  three RPI is not good. East Carolina has also been
• 1:14:23
  ice cold lately.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Remember you guys would text and say the
• 1:14:34
  bubble is bad?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: You get it?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: I get it?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I went again. So n C Eacus lost
• 1:14:41
  two weekend series in a row to not good AAC teams.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: I think TCU oh man, that QUA one records bad.
• 1:15:01
  So's the road record? Yea. Every time I think a
• 1:15:03
  team is pretty stinctly and I find something else I.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Was gonna say, I was gonna say Michigan, but they're
• 1:15:08
  also four and ten.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gonna make our field of right, We're
• 1:15:17
  gonna make our bracketology gonna be a field of sixty.
• 1:15:20
  And the last four teams just don't deserve to be in.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Love it good cop. The team that I keep coming
• 1:15:27
  back to is UTSA.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Actually so I was about to get there. Let me
• 1:15:32
  look an RPI thirty five in DSR forty three in KPI.
• 1:15:42
  That's good enough. Not a lot of quad one opportunities,
• 1:15:48
  but they're thirty one non contract to schedule, so it's
• 1:15:50
  not like they haven't like really tried positive quad one
• 1:15:54
  and quad two records. You don't see much of that
• 1:15:56
  in this area and five hundred road records.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: You said, we're talking about UTSA. Yeah, what hold on
• 1:16:07
  their non con strength to schedule was one sixty eight.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: I was looking at Miami with Ohio. That is a
• 1:16:13
  really good point.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I was making try. I didn't have something
• 1:16:18
  in youre wrong.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: No, that's totally my bad. My eyes were the wrong place,
• 1:16:21
  so that that yeah, that changes my opinion there.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: Wow, But none of these, no of these other teams
• 1:16:28
  in this range have a great non cone strength the schedule.
• 1:16:31
  For being honest, there the ones that we're discussing right now.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: So I think this is the point where typically I
• 1:16:38
  like to go through and looking at all these teams,
• 1:16:42
  what is one thing that really like stands out in
• 1:16:44
  a positive way for you, like above the rest that
• 1:16:46
  makes you like be able to put your stamp on
• 1:16:48
  be like, this team should be in because blank.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll start with one that I've got right off
• 1:16:57
  the rip, and then we can we can kind of
• 1:17:00
  piggyback or dance with those thoughts of teams that we
• 1:17:05
  don't have moved over right now. Michigan's major wins. They
• 1:17:09
  took two wins against Oregon who is you know, top
• 1:17:14
  sixteen Nebraska, who was in the mix for it? Oregon State,
• 1:17:18
  who was in the mix for it. I think if
• 1:17:20
  that's a that's a decent enough kind of benchmark for them.
• 1:17:23
  They've got a thirty six RPI, which kind of puts
• 1:17:25
  them in this range. Their losses are brutal, however, quad
• 1:17:31
  one brutal. I think if we're looking for positives, I
• 1:17:37
  like Michigan's wins.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: I'm with you there. I agree. I think I might
• 1:17:42
  have found my other one got I think it's TCU.
• 1:17:46
  They're thirty one in the DSR. Very high. Also, if
• 1:17:52
  you look at the Big Twelve as a conference, they're
• 1:17:55
  tied with Oklahoma State and standings they're sandwiched by Oklahoma
• 1:17:58
  State and Cincinnati. They're right in that mixed with all
• 1:18:00
  these other teams that are definitive two seeds or better.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: YEP. I think I think we can also all agree
• 1:18:06
  that TCU has not really played like what we considered
• 1:18:09
  their talent could have played correct.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: And they're also now just getting back their ace.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: So that's not that we could not that that's something
• 1:18:17
  that the Committee is going to gauge on by any stretch.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I mean they kind of do. I mean, like if
• 1:18:22
  the committee across major sports, they'll look at these things
• 1:18:25
  and say, but the star players out, they don't have
• 1:18:28
  they take that into account. But if they perceive star
• 1:18:31
  player has been out for a while and it's coming
• 1:18:33
  back now, I think that could be taken into consideration.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Jake, where do you fall on kind of that TCU
• 1:18:41
  in Michigan, Like, do you do you think that those
• 1:18:44
  are reasonable?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: I do? I mean, I think the the metrics do
• 1:18:54
  do back them up. I wish their Q one records
• 1:18:59
  were better, but the rest of everything else is comparable
• 1:19:03
  to all these other teams, and none of these other
• 1:19:05
  teams just have like a phenomenal Q one record if
• 1:19:07
  we're talking about that, like like NC States five and nine,
• 1:19:13
  Arizona State seven and ten, which is not much better
• 1:19:16
  than the other ones. So like, I think we can
• 1:19:19
  I think. I think if we're I think we can
• 1:19:21
  probably put Arizona State in, and then we can probably
• 1:19:24
  also do Michigan and TCU.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I agree, I do kind of want to go to
• 1:19:34
  bat for another team really quick. South Alabama, I think
• 1:19:39
  by that's I think, by that same standard that we
• 1:19:42
  just used for Michigan, Alabama win, Southern Miss win, Coastal win.
• 1:19:49
  Their losses are ugly, but we'll just ignore that for
• 1:19:52
  a moment. Eight and nine in Quad one, ten and nine,
• 1:19:56
  and Quad one and two, So again we're when we
• 1:19:58
  talk about limited opportunity against the big dogs, you see
• 1:20:02
  that that's clearly them. However, seventeen of the nineteen games
• 1:20:06
  again Quad one and eight to nine is a losing record,
• 1:20:10
  but it's not an egregious losing record like some of
• 1:20:13
  these other teams left on the board.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you. Here's my argument against the historical precedents.
• 1:20:21
  They're fifty nine in RPI right now. There has not
• 1:20:24
  been a team that's not inside the top fifty three
• 1:20:26
  in RPI that has made the tournament as an at
• 1:20:28
  large in the past five years, and I don't think
• 1:20:31
  they would make that exception for a mid major who's
• 1:20:34
  forcing their own conference.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm with you, like everything you're saying is accurate,
• 1:20:39
  but I think historical precedent just shows that it's probably
• 1:20:43
  not them.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good point. That's a good point.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: I think there's so okay, here's the thing. There's wait
• 1:21:00
  a second, hold on. I realized I made a somewhat
• 1:21:05
  of a mistake, but not really. This kind of this
• 1:21:07
  makes it actually more difficult. UTSA is already up here
• 1:21:10
  as a conference champ, and I just realized that. So goodbye,
• 1:21:16
  there's that. The next team I was gonna say, I
• 1:21:19
  think that something stands out as ECU. They are thirty
• 1:21:26
  three in the KPI series tie against North Carolina. However,
• 1:21:32
  you want to say that one one in one, I
• 1:21:37
  call it a top again, and I think the AAC
• 1:21:42
  is a conference gets two in And this would be
• 1:21:48
  my other choice above U A B for sure, because
• 1:21:53
  U A B. Like, look, they're here on the sheet,
• 1:21:55
  but let's be honest, they got like nothing going for
• 1:21:57
  and there's sixty nine in the RPI. There's just no chance.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Nice first of all. Second, yeah, I agree, I just yeah, yeah,
• 1:22:06
  I think you see you makes sense.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: Here, Jake.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: If we think they're a two big league for sure, then.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of two bid leagues, I think this is
• 1:22:21
  kind of where we could all right, so we talked
• 1:22:24
  about this before. Right now we have four at larges
• 1:22:29
  from mid majors. Would maybe try and steer away from
• 1:22:33
  a fifth unless something jumping off the screen. Also, I'm
• 1:22:35
  getting rid of them because just yeah, yeah, good, same
• 1:22:38
  thing with Arkansas State. The RPI is sixty. That's not
• 1:22:42
  happening South.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: Get you can get hot point off just for the
• 1:22:49
  sake of taking them off the list, right yeah.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Rip hop point. Oh they're still in.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're in. There's a conference chat.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: So is there any chance, Josh, by the way, you
• 1:23:02
  could like move all of this up to like beside
• 1:23:04
  the conference champs just so I can see them as well.
• 1:23:06
  That would be super helpful if you don't mind.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, I got you, Thank you, sir.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: So something that is interesting here, like I want I
• 1:23:17
  want to bring up Mercer. Like Mercer is thirty fourth
• 1:23:22
  right now in the RPI. If that number stands or
• 1:23:26
  I think they're predicted, according to light Warren Nolan's predicted
• 1:23:28
  thing to jump up even higher than that, like into
• 1:23:31
  the top thirty, Like if their RPI ends up in
• 1:23:33
  the like at thirty to thirty five range, like, well,
• 1:23:36
  that just trump everything else. Like if the metrics say
• 1:23:40
  they should be in will a top will a top
• 1:23:42
  thirty five, RPI kind of trump everything else and they
• 1:23:45
  get in.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: I think that that RPI is kind of far and
• 1:23:48
  away the highest of any team we've not kind of
• 1:23:52
  swept in thus far for sure.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: I'm I mean, I mean, I get, I mean, they're
• 1:23:57
  one in seven Q one three and nine Q one
• 1:23:59
  Q two like some of these some of these things
• 1:24:02
  don't back them up, but it's just like the metrics
• 1:24:04
  do for some reason.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: DSR fifty two KPIs so that's an outlier, yeah, I mean,
• 1:24:11
  like the one in seven quad one record is a
• 1:24:13
  really hard sell.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Also just like based on principle two bid SoCon I'm
• 1:24:24
  with you, I think, like I know, like I understand
• 1:24:26
  what you're saying, Like the RPI is certainly it'd be
• 1:24:28
  tough to leave them out, like that's like at the
• 1:24:30
  very least the first four out team probably, So.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: How many spots do we have left? Two four?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: I think I think NC State gets one of them.
• 1:24:43
  I'm gonna be.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: Honest, probably probably five teams here if.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: We're looking at all of the other teams around, Like,
• 1:24:51
  compared to these other teams, I think NC State series
• 1:24:55
  win over Boston College wins against Florida State and Coastal
• 1:25:00
  forty one RPI, DSR is thirty four, KPI is forty.
• 1:25:09
  That's all well within that range. And like I said,
• 1:25:15
  I just think like also in terms of like, I
• 1:25:19
  hate that it works this way, but it's true. They
• 1:25:21
  go to Carolina this weekend or maybe they host them,
• 1:25:24
  I forget which, but regardless, they play Carolina this weekend,
• 1:25:27
  and that's gonna help out the RPI just by playing
• 1:25:29
  there in there. Yeah, true, So I hate it, but
• 1:25:37
  I think NC State would get a vote for me.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good with it all right last time, so
• 1:25:47
  I think unfortunately there's just like Miami, O howe are
• 1:25:54
  they one of the ones that's on here or no,
• 1:25:56
  no they're not.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: They got at large the Kent State to here, I
• 1:25:59
  mean the on a Kent States here.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know what their metrics are off the tment.
• 1:26:06
  Texas State being one, there's sixty two DSR. I think
• 1:26:10
  that's just probably too low, right.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Also, seventh in the Sun Belt and that's just egregious. Yeah,
• 1:26:20
  so I think we can at this point we can
• 1:26:23
  like kind of they're just they're not a perdue. Forty
• 1:26:32
  two in DSR, forty eight and RPI and sixty two
• 1:26:40
  in KPI. That's that's a big that's a big one.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty against Indiana State. Then we have two
• 1:26:49
  quad one wins.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that probably knocks them out. And here
• 1:27:03
  we are with here we are with Pitt again.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: Louisiana is fifty nine in DSR. That's not exactly great.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: Pitt's fifty fifty four.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: Where is Louisiana And the KPI my I blind other
• 1:27:20
  thirty seven other higher than I thought. They are forty
• 1:27:26
  nine RPI, twelve and twelve quad one and quad two record.
• 1:27:32
  That's better than any other team here. I think that's
• 1:27:35
  still left besides a team we haven't talked about yet.
• 1:27:39
  Kent State fifty four RPI, sixty in DSR not great. Uh,
• 1:27:57
  seventy five kpi, Yeah, that's a bit. That's enough that
• 1:28:00
  no Chad for Kent State ten and eight and two
• 1:28:05
  combined they have a positive one record like they're Yeah.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: That's a tough loss.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: Honestly, So here's what we're doing. We're deciding right now
• 1:28:16
  between I try to lay this out for the people
• 1:28:17
  to show how bad the bubble is. We're deciding between
• 1:28:20
  a team that is fifty nine in DSR, a team
• 1:28:23
  that is are two different teams that are tied for
• 1:28:27
  thirteenth in the ACC, and a team that has a
• 1:28:33
  one in seven quad one record. Those are our options.
• 1:28:40
  Long pause is warranted?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: How bad? How bad is it that I want to
• 1:28:43
  go back to Jake and just say, you know what,
• 1:28:46
  two bits, so calm, give it to Marcher. The only
• 1:28:49
  team that I would kind of put in that consideration
• 1:28:51
  is pit. I think it's one of those two.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: So I think I think, yeah, I think so. I
• 1:29:00
  think it's a pit it's Pit over cal.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: I'm about to say, I think it's pitt for sure.
• 1:29:04
  I lean Pitt. I think my answer here, good Lord,
• 1:29:08
  I can't talk. My answer here is a lean Pitts.
• 1:29:10
  In general.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's Pit over Louisiana as well. Yeah, I
• 1:29:24
  just like, I mean, I just don't, I don't know.
• 1:29:27
  I just I just can already I can. I can
• 1:29:29
  just see it. Mercer is going to finish the year
• 1:29:32
  which they have to play their conference tournament. Depending on
• 1:29:34
  who they play, it could bring them down.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a big that's a big factor we
• 1:29:40
  haven't considered. No matter what happens, they are going to
• 1:29:43
  have their RPI come down in conference just because of
• 1:29:45
  who they're playing in the tournament.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, Pitt.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I hate that, man. I really thought we could sell
• 1:29:55
  Mercer on it so much.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: I think it has to be now.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: If Mercer just like makes it to the championship and
• 1:30:03
  loses to Western Carolina, like if they just went out
• 1:30:05
  and then lose the championship game, I don't know. Are
• 1:30:08
  those uh yeah, I guess it's gotta be, Pitt. We're
• 1:30:16
  we're doing the same thing we did last.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Week pretty much. All right, Well that's the bubble. That
• 1:30:24
  was the more fun part I like to call it.
• 1:30:27
  We're just going based on geography here mostly and like
• 1:30:30
  a little bit of competitive balance.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: Do we have Do we have all of our three
• 1:30:36
  seeds though?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it would be these and then we have
• 1:30:39
  to choose.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Six Miami Ohio I think for.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, for sure, we're going just based on RPI
• 1:30:50
  Western Carolina for sure.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I'll throw a nod, maybe freaking saga.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Potentially, Uh, fifty rpi, yeah, for sure, fifty sixty yeah,
• 1:31:02
  like I think so, I think you're for sure.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Get in there, Jake.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: No, I'm good with that. I'm good with the high
• 1:31:10
  point probably too. If we're going off of.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: That, right, that's a good point. Yeah point.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: So we have two more?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, one more.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: One more I thought we had. I thought we had two.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: More Simo, Saint Joe's, Tarletan maybe.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: Uh what's what's Campbell?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: Uh? Not not very good?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: Are they down? Well?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Sixty seven? But I mean like, like that's not really
• 1:31:51
  compared to the rest. I would respect Josh like that.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, miamil, how is That's the one I missed when
• 1:31:56
  I was counting.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh sorry, Jake.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: That's why I was confused out the way too left.
• 1:32:01
  I didn't count them.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: If you're going based on the metrics, like what the
• 1:32:05
  average of all the metrics are telling you, I think
• 1:32:07
  this is actually it's tough. H So it's either Simo
• 1:32:19
  or Tarleton. I don't think it be Saint Joe's here.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: Saint jose is sixty six or Charleton sixty one. I mean,
• 1:32:30
  if we're just going strictly off of that DFR.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Tarletan's fifty eight, Uh, Saint Jose's I don't see them,
• 1:32:40
  so they're a while or I just Simo's ninety two.
• 1:32:43
  Well where is Saint Joe's uh one o nine? Yikes?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: Oh that sucks.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's Tarletan. Most things point towards Tarleton here,
• 1:32:52
  I think. Okay, uh yeah, all right, let's do that.
• 1:32:59
  All right. So well, this what I'm not to do
• 1:33:02
  is just solely to help me since we're trying to
• 1:33:05
  do like a competitive balance this way. This is just
• 1:33:13
  tedious stuff.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: If you're listening to this at home, you're not watching.
• 1:33:27
  Do want to tell you if you if you're an
• 1:33:29
  audio first listener, highly recommend you go to YouTube and
• 1:33:32
  check out the stream of this because being able to
• 1:33:34
  follow us on the screen has never been more important
• 1:33:37
  than in this episode. Folks.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: All right, so this is what Jake and I tipically
• 1:33:42
  like to do. First of all. First things first, the
• 1:33:44
  West Coast teams get them, point them out and try
• 1:33:48
  and to shoot them to the West Coast. There's only
• 1:33:51
  two West Coast regionals that would be and that's it.
• 1:33:58
  Uh yep. So we're just gonna make uh and Arizona
• 1:34:04
  State can go here because the conference isn't Zaga can
• 1:34:07
  go there. That's perfect love it, all right, But now
• 1:34:11
  figure out there is only one SEC team that the lord,
• 1:34:15
  where can they go there? They can go here?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: No, there jet North Carolina.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: That's all right, So competitive balance in Kentucky to Kansas.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: I think that makes sense geographically too.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, it does, all right. So teams where can they go? Oh? There?
• 1:34:48
  There's usually more options here. I just kind of want
• 1:34:50
  to make sure.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Definitely, I understand. I like this. So at home Josh
• 1:34:55
  is going through and just coming out spots. We can
• 1:34:58
  plug in a CEC teams based on not having other
• 1:35:01
  ACC schools kind of in the mix there in those
• 1:35:04
  regional systems.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: These are options I can type. This would be a
• 1:35:11
  lot easier, all right, all right, same thing, VA Tech
• 1:35:15
  competitive balance, you just send them here.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: Also, geographically kind of makes sense NC State, Pitt. So
• 1:35:27
  it doesn't really matter as much. We don't have as
• 1:35:32
  many other conference conflicts, which makes us convenient.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Pitt Pitt. There's no real winner in terms of the
• 1:35:41
  geographics of this. Like they're gonna have a little bit
• 1:35:43
  of a of a travel schedule. N C State. On
• 1:35:46
  the other hand, I think you can honestly make an
• 1:35:48
  argument that that makes sense for Florida. I think you can.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jake has I was just gonna say, has
• 1:35:57
  Pitt played West Virginia because that's like literally like a
• 1:36:02
  really it's like a really close trips that might be boring.
• 1:36:06
  But I don't know if they've played each other.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Like blowout West Virginia.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: If I remember, I was about said, all right, there's
• 1:36:19
  no like this is where we just have fun with it,
• 1:36:21
  like that will be a fun regional for this.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: Uh who selfishally, I like NC State Coastal on a Friday.
• 1:36:31
  That's kind when anybody gets startful, just whoever that may be.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was thinking. Yeah, do that
• 1:36:40
  all right, and then we'd like to give these teams
• 1:36:44
  probably one of these, but been another choice. I guess
• 1:36:46
  we can just send Pit here.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Talk about an offensive matchup on Friday to Pitt Oklahoma State.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Now, I think, all right, Big twelve usually more options.
• 1:37:08
  They can go here, they can't go there soon.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Sorry, There.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: Are pretty much a lot of options, so so the
• 1:37:17
  only the only ones TCU, right, Yeah, I think at
• 1:37:20
  this point we can maybe just go competitive balance unless
• 1:37:22
  there's like an end state matchup thing we think would
• 1:37:24
  be fun. Like if you look around, yeah, uh looking, Well, let's.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: Say there's three of the three seeds we have. There's
• 1:37:38
  three Texas teams. True, yeah, and then there's so there's
• 1:37:43
  Texas and A and M.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Do we just do the same thing we do every
• 1:37:47
  week and just throw your tsa here? I mean, like
• 1:37:51
  we do it every week and that's relatively competitive balance
• 1:37:53
  is pretty close.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: Like sure, all right, it can be what we hang
• 1:37:58
  our head on when we're right about it.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: Am I stupid? Who's the Oh Tarlatan, that's right, Charlatan
• 1:38:03
  is the other one. So these are the smaller schools.
• 1:38:07
  You probably want to keep their travel not super far.
• 1:38:09
  We want to send Western Carolina to.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, well here's the thing. Second we can roll.
• 1:38:16
  JB pointed this out last week, and I think it's
• 1:38:18
  actually a good point. I don't know if the committee
• 1:38:20
  would give them just three mid majors.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point, so.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: That we just send Michigan, being the worst of the
• 1:38:27
  at larger as we send the Michigan Yeah.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, the more I think about it, if that's a
• 1:38:32
  great point. You have an argument there.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: I don't. I'm just I was just gonna say, who
• 1:38:40
  else does the stipulation like qualify for? Who else wouldn't
• 1:38:45
  get three mid majors? And like, who do we already
• 1:38:47
  have a mid major going to? I think I think
• 1:38:49
  that's it now. Yeah, just UCLA is the only one.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, Missouri State. I would not put here because I
• 1:38:56
  already played on this in a series.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: So we're going.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: We can go liberty here, but we send liberty here,
• 1:39:04
  it would be to it would be just Arkansas's the
• 1:39:06
  only power conference.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Before we keep skipping around, Josh, is there a problem
• 1:39:11
  in your brain with doing two mid majors to UCLA?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, based on principle, Yeah, maybe, but they are
• 1:39:23
  the one seed.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: So another thing, real quick, Dodge chimes in, send a
• 1:39:28
  power conference TCU, he suggests to Southern miss Then.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: I'm with that. That's why I said, yeah, liberty here,
• 1:39:39
  maybe because they I mean, sorry, wait now, oh I
• 1:39:43
  said that wrong.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: Hold on, Yeah, you were saying liberty there because Missouri
• 1:39:45
  State's already played old miss.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: Right liberty here. That I guess would make the most
• 1:39:49
  sense if we could go TCU here, Liberty there.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: Thoughts Liberty to Florida, sure, Ben Blair.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: Taylor Friday Night mhm okay, oh wait, shoot, I see
• 1:40:10
  what I was saying.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: Wait, sorry, hold up, I did that wrong. I would
• 1:40:14
  go Liberty here the most they already played. That's my bad,
• 1:40:18
  because Missouri State played when miss in the series. All right,
• 1:40:23
  all right, now does that look I like that?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I'll take I'll take Ben Blair versus
• 1:40:29
  uh Crystal Vons too.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's yeah. Now do we just kind
• 1:40:38
  of this isn't final. I'm just kind of like if
• 1:40:41
  we were going to the competitive balance, this is kind
• 1:40:44
  of what it would look like.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: So if Charlatan would probably go A and M to
• 1:40:49
  A and M right for travel, right, so and then
• 1:40:56
  who's uh we have three Carolina teams and Miami l howe? Yeah,
• 1:41:04
  what what's so? Uh?
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: The most northern team of this group would be I
• 1:41:11
  guess either of the Georgia's, which it's not really much
• 1:41:14
  different from Auburn's northern Like all, it's not enough difference.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm almost positive in terms of just the northernmost of
• 1:41:22
  these it's gonna be Atlanta.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: It would. I think it's very very barely george like Athens.
• 1:41:29
  But it's like it essentially like that, so it's like
• 1:41:34
  it doesn't matter.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Miami go to either of
• 1:41:38
  the Georgia's.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: How about we do Miami to Georgia.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Miami, Miami.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: That's great, Look, that's good.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Look there could be only one.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: As they say, the Miami's.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: I fine with just going straight then this. I like
• 1:42:00
  that thoughts. Yeah, yeah for me. Now, actually, wait.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: Every time, tell me we have the right amount of teams.
• 1:42:15
  This is where I find out. Please please, please, please
• 1:42:18
  please thank the Lord. All right, all right, westernmost teams ah,
• 1:42:29
  San Diego State. Really besides, like I guess Oral Roberts.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: I guess, well, bad day to be a team on
• 1:42:40
  the West.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, Oral Roberts isn't enough for like I'm gonna leave them,
• 1:42:44
  but I think we can go San Diego State here.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: We try to do the Northeast thing every single time,
• 1:42:55
  but there are so many Northeastern four seeds that it
• 1:42:57
  just never makes sense. Also, the most Northeastern one seed
• 1:43:01
  is like West Virginia, and that's it. So at this
• 1:43:04
  point we can just kind of go matchups. There's like
• 1:43:07
  relatively straight across. I don't want to send I don't
• 1:43:11
  want to send Oral Roberts there because we always do.
• 1:43:13
  But like, who's kind of eastern of these like sela
• 1:43:20
  like not really, but like of of the group, like
• 1:43:24
  in the end. Now, oh wait, Simo, Simo, I'd say,
• 1:43:30
  who are you looking?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Where you're looking for the most eastern of these?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: Western?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: The most western? I'm sorry, okay, Simo or Oral Roberts.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: But if we like, I think the Semo is significantly
• 1:43:41
  better than Roberts. So it would just be giving U. C.
• 1:43:44
  L a literal as if it matters with them. You know.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Dodge proclaims somebody's gonna lose a lib in the Eugene
• 1:43:50
  Regional this expect He's correct. Yeah, that's gonna be a bad.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: Imagine THATX Whitney wasn't hurt and we got that Whitney
• 1:43:58
  cold Carlone.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, please projected into my veins. Yeah, Dodge, I think
• 1:44:05
  you're I think you're right on the I think you're
• 1:44:08
  right on the money with that.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: I think I like this. Dodge mane Wild just like
• 1:44:13
  have been on here.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah it may as well.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I've just been our fourth contributor Dodge contributes more
• 1:44:18
  than JB. Think about it, Dodge.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're in the position where you can
• 1:44:24
  come in and chime in, I can send you the link.
• 1:44:27
  Just let me know what a comment you may as
• 1:44:29
  well jump on.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: All right, in state stuff that I see, Campbell to
• 1:44:37
  you and see with work North Florida and Bethune. Wait,
• 1:44:42
  this is a tradition on here. Thune goes to Florida State,
• 1:44:46
  North Florida goes to Florida. That's a tradition every single week.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: Love it. Thanks for including me and your traditions, guys.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's just it's just something about it. I think
• 1:44:55
  goes to Tallahassee every single time they play in the postseason.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: So who are we to step on tradition?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, Jake, do we keep tradition going in sant
• 1:45:04
  Ye to Georgia?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: I think so we we we we can if that,
• 1:45:10
  if that turns out to be what happens, then we'll
• 1:45:13
  be Jack.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: We've had it from the beginning, all right, do we
• 1:45:21
  have anything opposed to camp We'll go into Carolina because
• 1:45:23
  it's an end state or actually, yeah, it's an end
• 1:45:25
  state thing. All right. Nothing else is glaring Kansas is
• 1:45:38
  kind of I think up Oral Roberts to Kansas would
• 1:45:41
  work because of like geography, I think that would help.
• 1:45:43
  Kansas is the most western of the team's left. I
• 1:45:45
  think that well in Texas, I guess.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I'm with that.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, Texas can get Sela. That would make sense geographically,
• 1:45:56
  that would that would sure?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: Sure, so we got or Roberts Kansas.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: Jake, you want to send your your Philly boys down
• 1:46:07
  here to down to Auburn.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: Sure that they can handle it?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: All right? I remember that not gonna lot.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: I would love that.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: Drew is gonna go down to Auburn instead and get him.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're Drew's gonna see his new favorite player, Blake.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: I see a lot of Texas.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: We can have the debate, like I said today Doyle's
• 1:46:36
  new rankings as Blake Primrose ranked above bub Terrell, they
• 1:46:39
  would go head to head.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Look at that perfection.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: A and M doesn't have anyone yet. Uh, they could
• 1:46:49
  get I guess right state or I guess Indiana State
• 1:46:51
  is technically the furthest west state state because it's just
• 1:46:57
  them in right State and then Northeast schools left.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, we can send right to one of the Mississippi's,
• 1:47:05
  which is over half of our options. That's true, so
• 1:47:09
  I guess that doesn't matter.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: I'd like to normally suggest Fairley Dickinson to Atlanta.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, Jake, I have a question because I don't know
• 1:47:18
  how to say this besides just saying it the way
• 1:47:20
  I'm about to Jake, which of these Northeastern schools left
• 1:47:24
  is the poorest?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: So we have but Neil Binghamton, Yukon, Niagara. Yeah, first thought,
• 1:47:36
  probably Niagara.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: So we send them to West Virginia because of the travel.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: I hate that you're making me answer that question, but yeah,
• 1:47:46
  if this is.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Your first time watching college baseball, now hi, thanks for joining.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Niagara, you're the poorest of these four schools.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: That'll go on our that'll go in our one hundredth
• 1:47:58
  episode clip.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying what this makes sense if we did
• 1:48:05
  right at.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: State any big.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: I hate sending Dinghamton all the way down to Oxford,
• 1:48:13
  Mississippi for multiple reasons, but I don't really see it.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: You can to Atlanta. I'm gonna connect her send because
• 1:48:26
  the largest airport didn't.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: Drew just say, uh, if do you.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: Georgia.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just don't pay an attention to me.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: At this point.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: There's no wrong answers here.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: If you say, somebody, uh.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: Not copy and paste this is this is a good lord,
• 1:48:48
  all right, all right now any issues?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: So Alabama gets Yukon. Uh sure stay mississip state, everyone over,
• 1:49:05
  but no Southern miss Miss.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, where did you say you didn't want to send
• 1:49:13
  Binghamton too?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: I did say that. Yes, well, yes, I guess I
• 1:49:19
  think I think this is fine.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: I think that you didn't want to send them to
• 1:49:23
  Ole miss. Is that what you said?
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: Just for for the sake of geography? Like that's that's
• 1:49:27
  just such a long travel for Binghamton.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: But it's not, like I guess, just as long as
• 1:49:33
  a trip for Yukon.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, But I don't know whatever. I think
• 1:49:38
  it's fine like this if we're just going like, oh
• 1:49:41
  my gosh, I'm gonna I'm gonna blow a gasket.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: List Binghamton can handle the trip, man, that'll be good.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: That's certainly a field of sixty four.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: You've got a field like an hour fifty. There is
• 1:49:55
  no way for us to do this in less than
• 1:49:57
  two hours. It is not possible. I'm telling you. Every time.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Do you have your first four out cemented over there?
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: So it's South Alabama four gonna be four of these seven.
• 1:50:11
  I don't know if it's the exact order, but maybe
• 1:50:14
  our last discussion. I think I think Mercer can they
• 1:50:18
  should be in that group with the thirty four RPI
• 1:50:20
  just right now.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Well joining us to make this discussion. Of course it
• 1:50:25
  is number one comment or Will Dodge Will thanks for
• 1:50:28
  joining us, sir.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, how's it going? My guys?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: We couldn't have done this without you. You've literally been
• 1:50:35
  supporting the comment section solo. So why not come on
• 1:50:39
  and help us determine our first four out?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: First four out?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: Yes, I was looking earlier. I think you got to
• 1:50:45
  put Purdue in that. There was pretty good plus like
• 1:50:51
  they have. I was looking at this earlier like they.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: I was looking for.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: Schools that have like an opportunity to be a big stealer.
• 1:50:57
  I think Produces got a chance just with a power
• 1:51:00
  conference attorney. Yeah, I think you're gonna throw a Mercer
• 1:51:03
  in there. Obviously, nicating Wage just said, I was curious
• 1:51:07
  you guys didn't include like Clemson even though they're the
• 1:51:12
  bottom of the CC. But there is pretty nice and
• 1:51:15
  if they if they grab a couple.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: Right, So I thought about that, like, here's the thing.
• 1:51:19
  I probably they should probably should be in the same
• 1:51:21
  tier of teams of like being first four, next four out.
• 1:51:25
  But when I put those teams in there, it was
• 1:51:26
  more of me just thinking, like teams that have some
• 1:51:29
  kind of argument to be in the field. And if
• 1:51:31
  you are fifteenth in your conference of sixteen, I don't
• 1:51:34
  think you have an argue. Yeah, Like that's that's just
• 1:51:36
  my thought.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think you should throw a Kent State.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: In that that last work next.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: And then the last one that is really tough. I
• 1:51:48
  guess I'd go Louisiana, but I'm open to suggestions.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: Texas State has the RPI. But in terms of conference standings,
• 1:51:58
  I'm pretty sure it's South. Hold on. South is fourth, Louisiana. Yeah,
• 1:52:05
  it's South. Drew like South to be in.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: The almost leaning South, but I'm open to I'm open
• 1:52:13
  to arguments.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: I'll say that to be fair, if this has any
• 1:52:16
  kind of weight, we had South in our field last week,
• 1:52:19
  just like in general, Okay, so that could help. South
• 1:52:24
  is a positive quad one, quad two record, so I
• 1:52:26
  think that's big in this case. So we could we
• 1:52:28
  could do that.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I must go more to this vein of Power
• 1:52:32
  conference teams jumping in throwing it out there. How many
• 1:52:35
  wins in their conference training do you think kse State
• 1:52:39
  and LSU need to have?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: I think they have to win. I don't think Kansas
• 1:52:47
  State had an argument for a while, but I think
• 1:52:49
  they're now.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: A real bad couple.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, just look at the quad one. Kansas State
• 1:52:55
  is five and fourteen and quad one LSU was four
• 1:52:58
  and sixteen. I think you have to not going to
• 1:53:02
  fight that. Yeah, I mean, like I think you have
• 1:53:04
  to win it. There's a lot of teams that applies
• 1:53:07
  for I think, I mean Clemson, it applies for too.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: It's what it's for what it's worth. Since we haven't
• 1:53:13
  brought him up specifically on college baseball now in several weeks,
• 1:53:16
  if d Kennedy decided to just fall out super nova again,
• 1:53:19
  Kansas State has done crazier things. I just agree with you,
• 1:53:23
  Josh that I think it would take a herculean level performance.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: If the conference tournament were to start today for the
• 1:53:31
  Big twelve, Kansas State would play Utah, then play SINCI,
• 1:53:35
  then they play West Virginia and then either Arizona State
• 1:53:40
  or TCU and then the championship game, so they would
• 1:53:44
  have to win one, two, three, five games.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been a lot of fun. Considering the Kansas State.
• 1:53:49
  I think that's over now.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, la la la real quick? Uh, Will, While
• 1:53:58
  you're with us, what is your favorite regional?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, great question.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was chatting Oregon that the the
• 1:54:04
  the Eugene regional is is hell. They talk about Faetnam,
• 1:54:08
  that's gonna be Willamett Valley nom Yeah, yeah, I mean
• 1:54:11
  I think Rohan Letto as a as a number four
• 1:54:15
  San Diego State Friday Night guy might be good enough
• 1:54:18
  to force Organ have to.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: Throw Will Sanford. That's just gonna so much chaos.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking about Oregon State, Arizona State getting
• 1:54:26
  a little bit soured with no Dax Whey. But I
• 1:54:28
  think Klein Schmidt Carlo and is still one of the
• 1:54:31
  better Friday Night mon Yeah, looking off the top.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: Another sneaky good Friday Night pitching matchup or not even
• 1:54:39
  sneaky Mason Edwards Brett Renfro.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sneaky.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 6: Uh for one, If being Hampton's Connor Griffin is back
• 1:54:49
  up to one hundred, that might be tough. Yes, that's
• 1:54:52
  gonna be one of the more dominant Friday night guys.
• 1:54:55
  And then obviously with the Yale jack Omen.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just kidding. I just loved last year.
• 1:55:00
  That's just gonna be like the ultimate test if this
• 1:55:04
  were to play out, the ultimate test for jack Omen,
• 1:55:06
  like is he for real or not? Is he just
• 1:55:08
  beating up on Nobby League or is he like for
• 1:55:10
  real Georgia I'm not gonna take. And then it's all
• 1:55:15
  the Miami's also in that one too.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take credit for this take, but Jake
• 1:55:19
  loves to say leaps and Yale to Georgia just so
• 1:55:23
  jack Omen can ball out in Athens. And then West
• 1:55:25
  Johnson just swoops him up that year and puts them
• 1:55:28
  into his picking factory.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: Because the star eyed emoji.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: And omens already had that ESPN article that try to
• 1:55:36
  get poached by a su last he's from Arizona.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, beau seem just sticking that Yale And I'm
• 1:55:43
  gonna say for a number one uh seed and having
• 1:55:48
  no power conferences that that's a pretty tough LA regional.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: Obviously, U C.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 6: L A is gonna squat on all these lineups, but
• 1:55:56
  you see Santa Barbara's is just as comparable.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: Rotation.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 6: Kenzaga's got a really good, frightened head guy that that's
• 1:56:02
  pretty tough for a one seaton.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in fact, they have no Power Conference team. Is
• 1:56:09
  how the committee could play that off and say it's
• 1:56:11
  not that bad? But I agree yeah, mm hmm.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 6: Oklahoma State pit is gonna be a final score like
• 1:56:19
  sixteen to fourteen.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: Wake Liberty, Ben Blair and Crystal Bis might yeah be
• 1:56:28
  so good in eleven things.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: The start on obviously Coastal going to Mississippi State or
• 1:56:36
  I don't think. I don't know that Saint Joe's going
• 1:56:38
  to Auburn would be enough to draw you away from
• 1:56:40
  Coastal being in Missippi State.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: No, the only thing I would say is is there
• 1:56:45
  any chance we could swap Saint Joe's in right state?
• 1:56:48
  Because if so, then I'm gonna need to just pick
• 1:56:50
  up residency at the Dude for the weekend because I've
• 1:56:54
  got to see all of it. But no, the Startville
• 1:56:57
  Regional is really good. At this point. I'd have to
• 1:56:59
  determm and whether I would rather be like I said,
• 1:57:02
  Oxford STARKFL two really solid ones coming in North Mississippi boys,
• 1:57:06
  but two of my favorites.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: I love Southern Miss too. Southern Miss is fun.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm calling there's.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 6: Gonna be a benches clear in Nebraska, Kentucky.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: That's a great.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think Arkansas benches clearing is off the table either.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: Gabe Tennessee high Point bed bloods Uh not necessarily. I'm
• 1:57:31
  hyped for that though. High Point was such a fun
• 1:57:33
  team to watch. The high Point Florida series low key
• 1:57:35
  one of my favorites of the year. So mm hmm.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: One is like polar opposite student demographics.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there for that.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 6: That Portland March madness. Uh site, where there there.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: That that's an interesting students No, there there fans get
• 1:57:57
  into it, but it's just fashion. Yeah, it's background.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: I was joking that I think that might have been
• 1:58:05
  like the first basketball game that they're watching, because I
• 1:58:07
  was like, every every foul call was booed, and I
• 1:58:11
  was like, yeah, there are a lot of tough fouls there.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: They're there for the antics. That's a yeah.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: Well, uh, we are rounding up on two hours. I
• 1:58:20
  think that's gonna that's gonna do us for our live stream.
• 1:58:23
  Of course, we may sit and chat as the graphics
• 1:58:25
  getting made as episodes getting tweaked and presented for you
• 1:58:29
  listening at home. But I do want to give these
• 1:58:32
  guys an opportunity to shout out where you can follow
• 1:58:34
  them in between our episodes College Baseball now what they're
• 1:58:36
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• 1:58:39
  Will you came in really to lift the spirits and
• 1:58:42
  save the day at the very end, we couldn't could
• 1:58:44
  have done it without your pale. Where can they find
• 1:58:46
  you between episodes? What are you working on?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Little Tea Dodge.
• 1:58:51
  I was actually just punching out the ACC deal this
• 1:58:53
  year right now, so.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: Working on that.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 6: I just put out last week the April Team of
• 1:59:00
  the Month, and then working on some stuff on the side,
• 1:59:02
  trying to do like a five Deeper Dives thing, something
• 1:59:06
  I've been working on over the course of the year.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: So yeah, five deeper Profiles.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 6: Then also a hopefully I'm done in a couple of
• 1:59:15
  days of this, but I put out a personal twenty
• 1:59:17
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• 1:59:21
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• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: I was actually I was doing some of that on
• 1:59:24
  my own today. Ironically enough, I was trying to put
• 1:59:26
  that together a little bit.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 4: There we go.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I'm not gonna post it soon, but
• 1:59:31
  I had to take. I'm just putting it out there.
• 1:59:32
  Don't know if it's unpopular or not. I think Dax
• 1:59:34
  Whitney might have four plus pitches. That is my hot
• 1:59:37
  take the month, Oh for sure.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, before before.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 6: The surgery, I was really close to putting a seventy
• 1:59:42
  on him as overall great.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can now.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 4: I think that's very risky.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: Big guy that I'm really on is Teddy Tokim the Stanford.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: He's like DH for them.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 6: He's kind of gone around to like third base outfield,
• 1:59:57
  but massive power and from here.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, uh no, I'm with you. I can't wait
• 2:00:05
  to see all of that. And you also have a
• 2:00:07
  live looks that somebody who's not edited yet, so maybe
• 2:00:09
  they will.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there'll be more this weekend.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to cal Stanford, so excellent. Why not? Wait?
• 2:00:15
  Can't wait? Jake, what are you working on? Working that
• 2:00:17
  people find you between our episodes?
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: You can follow me on Twitter at Jake Barge it's
• 2:00:23
  just put out my mid major rankings yesterday. Those have
• 2:00:26
  been a lot of fun. Not as much criticism this
• 2:00:30
  time as what I've gotten in the past, but uh,
• 2:00:32
  I'm opening, I'm open to all of it. I'm fine
• 2:00:34
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• 2:00:39
  this weekend, uh, probably to go to Western Kentucky Delaware.
• 2:00:45
  Get there's there's some there's some good uh some good
• 2:00:47
  looks to get for Western Western Kentucky, and I'll probably
• 2:00:50
  have a lot of looks out for that one and
• 2:00:51
  plus the plus the Saint Joe's Visa You game that
• 2:00:54
  I went to the other day, so uh been look
• 2:00:57
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• 2:00:57
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• 2:01:02
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