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Blue Jays SP Shane Bieber joins FT + Grant Brisbee’s WS Lover's Guide · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Let's start tier.
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Speaker 2: We are expecting Shane Bieber to join us at any moment.
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Speaker 2: The Blue Jays game three three.
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Speaker 3: Yes, he started it three and seven in the LCS
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Speaker 3: are not going to change it.
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Speaker 2: I would think so too, but they haven't officially announced
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Speaker 2: that yet. Maybe he'll give us the official announcement when
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Speaker 2: we talked to him. Before we get to him, I
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Speaker 2: did have this saved. You asked me yesterday about ratings.
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Speaker 2: We got them for Fox. ALCS Game seven averaged over
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Speaker 2: nine million viewers.
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Speaker 3: And that's just in the US though.
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Speaker 2: In the US that's part of this, and peaked at
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Speaker 2: twelve point three ish. It was the most watched ALCS
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Speaker 2: game on any network since twenty seventeen, which was ALCS
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Speaker 2: Game seven. Yankees astras, Yep, we hear about that one
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Speaker 2: all the time.
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Speaker 1: Tod with Todd Father Kratz. Tod Father brings that one
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Speaker 1: up all the time.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, still thinks they were banging trash cans in
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Speaker 5: the game, but we had nineteen mound visits to change
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Speaker 5: our signs every single time, so I don't Yankee fans.
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Speaker 5: They weren't banging trash cans during that game. It's not
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Speaker 5: like every every pitch occurrence type of thing.
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Speaker 1: That one was in New York or in Houston.
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Speaker 5: That game seven in Houston, we had a three to
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Speaker 5: two lead going to Houston, lost Game six and then
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Speaker 5: lost Game seven.
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Speaker 3: That's when Lance mccullors threw.
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Speaker 1: A couple of curve balls in a row exactly.
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Speaker 3: Game six was a blowout, right.
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Speaker 1: I remember.
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Speaker 3: In Game seven was the super tight one that they
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Speaker 3: you guys lost at the end as we got other
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Speaker 3: things to worry about. We don't care. That's past. We're
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Speaker 3: talking about it with.
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Speaker 1: Actually, pitch is ready to go. Let's bring him in.
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Speaker 2: Blue Jay Starter Shane Bieber is here, looking nice and
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Speaker 2: crisp from his phone. Does he have to move it
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Speaker 2: horizontal to everybody? I'm asking real quick so that we
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Speaker 2: know once we can start here, let me know fast.
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Speaker 4: I think I did all right?
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Speaker 1: Yep? Did it looks great? How you doing?
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Speaker 4: Man?
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 4: Thanks? Yeah, sorry, you're gonna have to bear with me here.
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Speaker 4: I'm doing. I'm doing well, guys. Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: By the way, is it beanie weather in Toronto? You
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Speaker 6: have a full Beanie? It's not that cold.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're it's climate control.
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Speaker 7: We're we're indoors here, but you didn't want to see
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Speaker 7: this mop that's under here, so I had to throw
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Speaker 7: something on. And we're going straight to some some media
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Speaker 7: duties after this.
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Speaker 2: So wrap the brand. How is the celebration after game seven?
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Speaker 2: It looked like a nightclub?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was long.
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Speaker 7: It was well deserved. You know those eight pm game starts, Uh,
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Speaker 7: go go deep into the night, right, But it's a
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Speaker 7: it's a great privilege to be able to celebrate late
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Speaker 7: and to enjoy what was a huge win with with
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Speaker 7: these guys.
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Speaker 6: By the way, Shane, I mean, I know, it's just
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Speaker 6: like where Scott would hang out normally on a Tuesday night,
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Speaker 6: like you guys were doing that Monday night. But was
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Speaker 6: mad Max like the all time greatest because they showed
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Speaker 6: him at one point he was standing I don't know
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Speaker 6: what he was throwing beer on everybody like on the stage?
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Speaker 3: Was he the DJ? Was he having the most fun?
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Speaker 3: Who had the most and what? By the way, I
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Speaker 3: know you guys are all.
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Speaker 6: Sexy as hell with your shirts off, but why is
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Speaker 6: everyone wearing no shirt? Can we get Gossman and Hoffman
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Speaker 6: and some of these guys to put shirts on.
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Speaker 7: I know I've been trying. I've been trying this whole run,
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Speaker 7: but it keeps working. So who am I to tell
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Speaker 7: him what to do? In regards to Max, I don't
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Speaker 7: even think he knows what he's doing. He's just enjoying it, man,
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Speaker 7: And like he sets the standard. He works his tail
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Speaker 7: off right, he goes and competes like nobody, nobody else,
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Speaker 7: and then he enjoys it like nobody else too, And
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Speaker 7: that's what we're all trying to do and fall in line.
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Speaker 4: And man, what a pleasure it's been to be able
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Speaker 4: to play with him.
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Speaker 5: Did that celebration?
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Speaker 3: Has that been?
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Speaker 5: Like, that's not been like since day one, since you've
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Speaker 5: been there, it's kind of like grown right, like mores
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Speaker 5: more fog machines Or is that like your first day
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Speaker 5: when you got there in your first big league rehab
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Speaker 5: assignment that that you went on.
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Speaker 3: Is that what they were?
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Speaker 5: Rocks?
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Speaker 7: So yeah, so yeah, they redid the clubhouse like a
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Speaker 7: year and a half, two years ago, I think, And like, yeah,
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Speaker 7: I got here a couple of months ago and this
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Speaker 7: place is purled out. It's it's pretty incredible the way
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Speaker 7: they take care of you know, all just every amenity
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Speaker 7: is anything you can think of is handled. And I
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Speaker 7: think it was going into Game one sixty two, obviously
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Speaker 7: we're fighting for the Al East, and they were setting
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Speaker 7: something up in the hallways outside the clubhouse. They were
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Speaker 7: setting up like strobe lights and all that. I said, what,
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Speaker 7: what what's this all about. They're like, oh, that's for
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Speaker 7: you know, when we win the postgame celebration. I said,
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Speaker 7: we're not gonna We're not going to celebrate in this
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Speaker 7: fantastic clubhouse of ours. I would love to. I would
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Speaker 7: love to mess things up in here. And they said, no, no,
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Speaker 7: it's too nice. We'll do the hallway. I said, okay, well,
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Speaker 7: when we win the World Series, you got to promise
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Speaker 7: we can. We can do it in this clubhouse and
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Speaker 7: and really mess some mess some stuff up.
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Speaker 4: So we'll see if they keep their promises.
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Speaker 6: That's a big hallway. By the way, that was a
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Speaker 6: big hallway. It looks like a rave hole. I mean
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Speaker 6: that's a massive hallway, which is.
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Speaker 3: All yeah, which is aw all right.
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Speaker 4: They do it right here, that's for sure.
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Speaker 6: They've changed the clubhouse because they used it used to
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Speaker 6: not be nice, so they've redone the whole. They've done
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Speaker 6: both sides, and it's way better than what it used
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Speaker 6: to be, as you know. All right, so we got
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Speaker 6: to go back to Game seven. You started Game seven.
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Speaker 6: First of all, in the first inning, your ex teammate
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Speaker 6: Josh Naylor jumps in front of a double playball. What
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Speaker 6: did you say to him when he did because you
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Speaker 6: said something to him, but you didn't really read your looks.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no you couldn't. I thought it was pretty obvious.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, something like what the effort you doing? Or it
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Speaker 3: was kind of.
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Speaker 7: Like that, you know, that's the heat of the moment comment, right, like,
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Speaker 7: you know, he already had a base base RBI base
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Speaker 7: hit and it was a tailor made double play to
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Speaker 7: get out of that first inning. And credit to Josh Man,
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Speaker 7: I know he'll do anything he can to win.
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Speaker 4: Love his game. He had a fantastic year this year.
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Speaker 7: So we exchanged some text messages after and it's all good.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you can you can.
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Speaker 7: Read, uh read my lips, and you know, thankfully they
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Speaker 7: they made the right call and we got out.
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Speaker 4: Of the inning.
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Speaker 6: Okay, So not only did you yell at Nailor, but
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Speaker 6: when you got taken out of the game, you kind
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Speaker 6: of were yelling at the umpire, were you trying to
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Speaker 6: get ejected as you got taken out of the game,
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Speaker 6: or were you just walking that fine line between just
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Speaker 6: saying things and not getting ejected.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know something about that, don't you.
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Speaker 3: I've been ejected a time or ten, so yes, I.
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Speaker 4: Know it worked, Yes, so exactly.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it turns out, I mean, the TV zones different
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Speaker 7: than the umpires on, so we'll see.
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Speaker 5: But I went back and.
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Speaker 4: Looked and like home, those are both falls. So that's
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Speaker 4: not a great not a great look.
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Speaker 7: But you know whatever, I think, like I said, is
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Speaker 7: game seven just trying to leave it all out there.
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Speaker 4: And obviously didn't want to you know, I wanted to
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Speaker 4: finish the inning and didn't want to end it on
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Speaker 4: a on a walk.
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Speaker 7: But at the same time I knew, you know, Louis Varlin,
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Speaker 7: our fire extinguisher, was coming into the ball game, and
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Speaker 7: you know he was able to get the job done
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Speaker 7: and and ultimately, in a game seven, you're just looking
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Speaker 7: to give everything you have out there and then pass
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Speaker 7: the time and with the offense that we have, keep
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Speaker 7: it as close as possible, and you know we're gonna
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Speaker 7: get our opportunities to do some damage and go figure
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Speaker 7: we did just that, all.
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Speaker 5: Right, So players in the dugout kind of know how
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Speaker 5: the game is gonna go. You're surprised by certain moments.
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Speaker 5: Take us to the springer. The springer and not bringing
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Speaker 5: munos in in that in that situation, were you guys
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Speaker 5: sitting on the bench like I kind of thought they'd
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Speaker 5: bring munos in here, like we kind of did you say.
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Speaker 7: Kind of rash or brash or brash? Yeah, honestly, I
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Speaker 7: mean you never know. Hitting is hard, right and baseball
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Speaker 7: is crazy. We have all these in the world, and
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Speaker 7: in George, he continually comes up with a huge hit.
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Speaker 4: Time after time.
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Speaker 7: We were all hoping for a base hit, and uh
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Speaker 7: he won uped us, that's for sure. You know, credit
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Speaker 7: to honestly the Mariners, their bullpen. They they're incredible all year,
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Speaker 7: in all postseason. And so, you know, regardless, I think
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Speaker 7: you're you're thinking a little bit less about the picture
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Speaker 7: and you're you're thinking a little bit more about George
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Speaker 7: and putting your faith in him and his ability to
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Speaker 7: get the job done regardless of who's on the mound.
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Speaker 7: But yeah, I think looking back, they probably had a
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Speaker 7: few different options, but nobody knows those conversations when that
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Speaker 7: dugout and in that bullpen to end up making that decision.
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Speaker 7: But I think for us Andres had a huge sacrifice
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Speaker 7: bunt to put runners on second and third and and
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Speaker 7: it didn't matter who's on the mound. We have every
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Speaker 7: all the confidence in the world in George to be
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Speaker 7: able to come through for us big time.
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Speaker 6: You know you're happy they brought in you can you
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Speaker 6: guys are all happy on that bench and you guys like, oh,
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Speaker 6: George Homer, nice, thanks guys, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 3: Seattle. So it's okay. I know how listen, you're not
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Speaker 3: gonna say it, I'll say it for you. It's cool.
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Speaker 3: But I want to know are you pitching Game three?
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Speaker 3: Have they told you? Are you guys going same same rotation?
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Speaker 4: I think we're still I think we're still figuring some
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Speaker 4: things out.
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Speaker 7: I heard you guys talking when I was in the
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Speaker 7: waiting room there trying to get an answer from me.
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Speaker 4: I actually don't have an answer just yet.
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Speaker 3: But I think you're saving it for media. It's cool,
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Speaker 3: we get it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you guys are the media man.
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Speaker 7: In twelve minutes, I might find out when everybody else
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Speaker 7: finds out to be fair, But I just it's a
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Speaker 7: World Series.
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Speaker 4: Like I said, no matter.
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Speaker 7: What, we're leaving it all out there, So I don't
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Speaker 7: care when it is. I'm just excited and grateful to
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Speaker 7: be able to get an opportunity and get the ball.
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Speaker 4: And so whenever I do get that, I'll get my
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Speaker 4: all shame.
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Speaker 3: So they kept they always talk about this. You had
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Speaker 3: Tommy John not that long ago. Okay, is it a thing?
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Speaker 6: Is this a real thing where you throw one day
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Speaker 6: and you're like, Okay, my arm feels great and I
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Speaker 6: have great stuff, and then the next time, because it's
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Speaker 6: kind of been in the postseason, one good one, one
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Speaker 6: bad one, one really good one, one bad one. You know,
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Speaker 6: is that a real thing where sometimes you just don't
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Speaker 6: feel it because you haven't fully come back from Tommy John?
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Speaker 6: Because the Game three start, your slider was literally stopping
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Speaker 6: and just making a left turn on TV, right right
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Speaker 6: turn or left turn for you, right tern for the
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Speaker 6: hitter right, and then in Game seven it just wasn't
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Speaker 6: as sharp.
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Speaker 3: Is that a Tommy John thing? Or is that just
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Speaker 3: day to day thing?
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Speaker 4: Who's to say? I think I located it much much
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Speaker 4: better in Seattle.
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Speaker 7: You know, I left some pitches up in Game seven,
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Speaker 7: and I got punched for it a little bit, and
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Speaker 7: at the same time, I felt like, uh, yeah, it
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Speaker 7: just had It was one of those addings. It was
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Speaker 7: clear early on, and you know, from behind the dish,
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Speaker 7: like sometimes it's like, oh, we're gonna have to grind
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Speaker 7: through this one because you know, induced a few ground
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Speaker 7: balls and they were final and we're just trying to
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Speaker 7: limit damage at that point.
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Speaker 4: The game kind of.
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Speaker 7: Like sets its theme early on and you got to
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Speaker 7: make adjustments and compete and roll.
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Speaker 4: With it, and that's kind of what it was. And so.
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Speaker 7: I think in a game seven, you're just focusing on
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Speaker 7: getting as many outs as you can and keeping the
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Speaker 7: game close.
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Speaker 4: And fortunately I was able to do that.
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Speaker 7: And you know, in regards to Tommy John, I don't
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Speaker 7: know what's going on right now, Like there's yeah, everybody
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Speaker 7: I've spoken to is telling me and had told me, like,
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Speaker 7: get you know, once you get to that first off season,
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Speaker 7: because I didn't have an off season last year. I
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Speaker 7: was rehabbing and throwing and building up throughout the entire
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Speaker 7: thing and in spring training.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't pitching in games the first half of
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Speaker 4: this year.
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Speaker 7: But you know, I'm throwing bullpens, you know, two three
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Speaker 7: a week and then lives and you know, starting on
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Speaker 7: a five day rotation. So it's been a it's been
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Speaker 7: a grind, that's for sure. It's been a long year
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Speaker 7: and a half two years. But guys say, like, well,
11:57
Speaker 7: you get that full off season and then you build
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Speaker 7: up and do normal spring training, that's when things kind
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Speaker 7: of start.
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Speaker 4: To feel normal.
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Speaker 7: But for me, I don't even think I would recognize
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Speaker 7: what normal is right now, just because of where I'm at,
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Speaker 7: coming off of surgery, you know, having just started throwing
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Speaker 7: a baseball just a year ago, and now I find
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Speaker 7: myself pitching the World Series.
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Speaker 5: Is there a difference for you going into a start
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Speaker 5: because you said in Seattle? In Seattle, your slider was good.
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Speaker 5: Do you feel like your stuff is different in Toronto,
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Speaker 5: in Seattle, in Toronto, in la or in Toronto roof close,
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Speaker 5: roof open, like where you can you can spin it differently?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it can be absolutely And that's something I've kind
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Speaker 7: of learned a lot more about this year, just playing
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Speaker 7: in an environment like this with a dome, making some
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Speaker 7: starts with the roof open and with the roof close
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Speaker 7: and different different wind patterns.
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Speaker 4: And after my first start, I think it was the
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Speaker 4: roof was open and I.
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Speaker 7: Was throwing change ups that I could not land in
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Speaker 7: the strike zone, and I was looking up at the
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Speaker 7: the metrics of it and it was like negative four
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Speaker 7: vertical and negative twenty two horizontal and as twice as
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Speaker 7: much movement as I was used to right and was
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Speaker 7: trying to make the adjustment mid mid game and on
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Speaker 7: the mound. So yeah, absolutely, environment definitely impacts the way
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Speaker 7: the ball moves and the way.
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Speaker 4: You might go about pitching. But at the same time,
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Speaker 4: you try and just.
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Speaker 7: Figure it out early on and make the adjustments necessary,
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Speaker 7: and then it doesn't really matter. Nobody cares what the
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Speaker 7: environments like. You got to go out there and compete.
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Speaker 6: Interesting that you look at that, by the way, and
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Speaker 6: then you try to make adjustments.
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Speaker 3: My hell, pitching has changed.
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Speaker 6: I mean it's crazy how pitching is, you know, I
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Speaker 6: look at vertical and horizontal. It kind of like, man,
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Speaker 6: I really.
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Speaker 3: Threw a good slider and punch that dude out on them.
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Speaker 6: So that's what you should tell next time it comes
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Speaker 6: to take you out. You should go like Max and
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Speaker 6: be like, look at the vertical on my slide. It's
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Speaker 6: good right now.
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Speaker 7: No, and we make fun of ourselves for sure. For that,
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Speaker 7: Like there's there's definitely a nice balance. You don't want
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Speaker 7: to just like completely rely on that stuff, but sometimes
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Speaker 7: it's nice to add context. So why why for you know,
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Speaker 7: the love of guy, you can't land a change up
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Speaker 7: and you've been able to do it for the last
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Speaker 7: last six months.
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, like.
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Speaker 7: Now I'm hearing hitters do that too, and they're coming
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Speaker 7: back and looking at the iPads and so it's not
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Speaker 7: just hitters they're they're or it's not just pictures. It's
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Speaker 7: it's hitters two that are focused on all that stuff
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Speaker 7: and for better or for worse, it helps.
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Speaker 4: Them, but it might hurt them as well. So we'll see, all.
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Speaker 6: Right, last three, But because we know you got to
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Speaker 6: go last three real quick? One, what's it like to
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Speaker 6: be because the logo behind you says World Series. You
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Speaker 6: were on the Guardians, you were hurt, you got traded
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Speaker 6: to the Blue Jays, now you're in the World Series.
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Speaker 3: Explain that feeling to.
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Speaker 4: Us, Yeah, hard to explain.
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Speaker 7: We didn't know what what was int or for for
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Speaker 7: my family and I getting traded over here.
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Speaker 4: You know what was that end of July. And you know,
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Speaker 4: thankfully I knew a lot.
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Speaker 7: Of guys here, A lot of guys from Cleveland have
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Speaker 7: ended up here in Toronto, and these guys have welcomed
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Speaker 7: me with open arms, and the team and even guys
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Speaker 7: I didn't know prior to to get traded over here
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Speaker 7: that they've taken amazing care and and helped this My
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Speaker 7: family and I acclimate so so well.
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Speaker 4: And so.
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Speaker 7: Really it's a it's a surreal feeling now pitching in
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Speaker 7: the World Series and being in the World Series, and
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Speaker 7: this is the most fun I've ever had playing baseball.
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Speaker 7: I'm enjoying every second with these guys, and so I
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Speaker 7: can't wait to continue it. But it's a it's a
15:46
Speaker 7: crazy feeling, that's for sure.
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Speaker 6: Okay, Second one is is bo gonna play? Is he
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Speaker 6: gonna be out there playing short stuff for you guys
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Speaker 6: in tomorrow.
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Speaker 7: I know he's working his tail off to to get
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Speaker 7: to a point, to push them hard, to to make
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Speaker 7: the right decision. I think he's probably already rehabbing or
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Speaker 7: hitting right now. I saw him a little bit earlier,
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Speaker 7: and so I don't know when they got to release
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Speaker 7: the roster, probably tonight, tomorrow morning. So I know they
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Speaker 7: they definitely have some decisions to make, but you ain't
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Speaker 7: getting that answer for me. And you think, if you
16:21
Speaker 7: if you think, I know, you're crazy.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 6: Dang, you're so good at this stuff. You're so good
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Speaker 6: at not answering questions but not really answer. That's why
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Speaker 6: I wore this shirt. I wore this shirt just for you, Okay,
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Speaker 6: just because I know, just because I know.
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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about the Hotspurs.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, he's not a Hotspur fan.
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Speaker 3: What do you want me to your last question?
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Speaker 6: That was my last question. I wore that shirt just
16:44
Speaker 6: for him. I wanted to see his feelings on you.
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Speaker 6: He just laughed.
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Speaker 4: I love it. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: You're what you're Chelsea, right, Chelsea.
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Speaker 4: Fan, Liverpool, Liverpool shot.
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Speaker 7: They're playing more, they're playing more American football games in
16:57
Speaker 7: that stadium than they are European football.
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Speaker 3: Hey, well, you know you gotta get that money. Gotta
17:02
Speaker 3: make that money. Concerts in football.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, getting a call and you've got to go anywhere. No, Shane,
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Speaker 2: thank you for the time. If you can hear us,
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Speaker 2: appreciate you. I know you're getting a call We're at
17:12
Speaker 2: time for you, so go to media day.
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Speaker 3: Have the best time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck.
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Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys, appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Hed.
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Speaker 1: Shane Bieber.
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Speaker 6: Shane Bieber pitch game three or four, six or seven
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Speaker 6: or whenever. He won't tell us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe like he knows. Come on, he hasn't,
17:37
Speaker 3: no cratzy. I bet he doesn't know. I'm gonna go.
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Speaker 3: He was honest. Okay, okay.
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Speaker 6: It's also like Logan Gilbert didn't know when we asked
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Speaker 6: him and he was I was like, which one one?
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Speaker 1: He was like, oh you know he knew. He was like,
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Speaker 1: am I allowed to say yes?
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Speaker 5: Yes? Yes? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Is it officially announced?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: No, but listen.
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Speaker 6: I mean that he was a great interview first catching
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Speaker 6: pitch on Fox one. Whether it's game it's probably gonna
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Speaker 6: be game three, and if it goes to game seven,
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Speaker 6: he'll be out there in game seven. But I love
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Speaker 6: his confidence.
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Speaker 3: He's like, when we win the World Series, we're having
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Speaker 3: that party in the locker room. Trash. I freaking love it.
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 6: That's what's all about right there. And if he's got
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Speaker 6: that good slider going, he owns show hate too. By
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Speaker 6: the way, two for thirteen with six punchies. That's pretty good.
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Speaker 1: That is good.
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Speaker 2: So Joe Hay won't be pitching that game. So you're
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Speaker 2: saying that was the game where the batwoke up?
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Speaker 3: Who wasn't that said? Show Hey didn't do anything special
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Speaker 3: that game? That was dumb.
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Speaker 1: Take Rob Parker.
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Speaker 3: I like you, Rob, but that was bad take.
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Speaker 2: I'm all four going outside the box, but like, you
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Speaker 2: have to give me something. I actually opened up the
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Speaker 2: article and I was like, is he gonna say something interesting?
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Speaker 2: And he didn't say anything. He just said, like, people
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Speaker 2: have hit three homers in a game before, people have
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Speaker 2: pitched really well before, but.
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Speaker 3: Not in the same game. Roberts anyways, I like. I
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Speaker 3: like Rob too. He's a he's a good guy.
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Speaker 1: I do too.
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Speaker 2: We can bring him on, he's been on. Yeah, he's
18:59
Speaker 2: super nice. We should I mean, we should get him
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Speaker 2: back too.
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Speaker 3: Is he I think he is.
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe that contributes to his take.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but what I can tell you is
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Speaker 2: You can find all of his work in the Athletic.
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Speaker 2: He's one of the funnier writers out there. I'll say
19:39
Speaker 2: it for Grand He goes for it. He takes chances
19:41
Speaker 2: to try and make you laugh and I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: So Grant, good to see you, and we're bringing you
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Speaker 2: on at least to start here to talk about your
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Speaker 2: latest The Lover's Guide to the twenty twenty five World Series.
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Speaker 2: So how you doing and how are you taking care
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Speaker 2: of the lovers out there.
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Speaker 8: I'm doing very very well. As you know, I grew
20:00
Speaker 8: up a Giants fan writing about the Giants, so it's
20:02
Speaker 8: a it's a pleasure to be on here at the
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Speaker 8: Giants catching legend and also a j Perzinski.
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Speaker 6: But I have a bubble head, Grant, Look at this,
20:11
Speaker 6: Look at this, I have a Giants bubble ahead.
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Speaker 3: You know what Crowds doesn't have one of those, does he? No,
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Speaker 3: Crowds doesn't, but not yet.
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Speaker 8: I'm working on. I got an article in the can.
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Speaker 3: I retired either by the Giants, like minus.
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Speaker 8: Last year, you had me on after writing The Hater's
20:29
Speaker 8: Guide to the World Series because it was the Dodgers
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Speaker 8: and Yankees and it was an annoying matchup. It was
20:35
Speaker 8: a fun matchup ended up being a short world series,
20:38
Speaker 8: maybe not the most even, but a fun world series.
20:42
Speaker 8: But it was still an annoying world series leading up
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Speaker 8: to it. So I had a totally different preview in mind,
20:47
Speaker 8: and my editor said, no, do that for last year.
20:50
Speaker 8: You hate this world series, right, But I don't. I
20:53
Speaker 8: like this world series. This world series is fun, it's fresh,
20:56
Speaker 8: it's new. So so I'm all.
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Speaker 2: In, Okay, why give me some more context on why
21:02
Speaker 2: the half the world series is the same from last year,
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Speaker 2: but now you're suddenly in love.
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Speaker 8: Well last year Dodgers Yankees. Look, I know the Yankees
21:13
Speaker 8: haven't had the same success that they had in the
21:16
Speaker 8: turnal of litt Millennium, but they're still the Yankees. They're
21:17
Speaker 8: still a boogeyman.
21:19
Speaker 7: You know.
21:19
Speaker 8: The Cowboys haven't been to a Super Bowl in thirty
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Speaker 8: five years, people still get annoyed by the Cowboys, and
21:24
Speaker 8: the Yankees have that same vibe. There's still kind of
21:27
Speaker 8: a payroll bully. They're still in the postseason every year.
21:31
Speaker 8: So you could pick the Yankees, but you didn't feel
21:33
Speaker 8: good about it. The Blue Jays are friendlier. They're named
21:36
Speaker 8: after a well, an annoying bird, but they're named after
21:39
Speaker 8: a bird. They're like, they're a fun, new, fresh team.
21:43
Speaker 8: They've got they've got flat Tito, they've got so much
21:47
Speaker 8: going for him, they've got a hot shot rookie, and
21:49
Speaker 8: it's a new team in a hungry fan base. Now
21:52
Speaker 8: you have someone to root for if you're not a
21:55
Speaker 8: Dodgers fan, and so you have an entire country rooting
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Speaker 8: against you, and then you've got most of the baseball
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Speaker 8: loving world rooting against you. And if you're a Dodgers fan,
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Speaker 8: that's perfect.
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Speaker 1: That's perfect.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you don't have to you don't have to
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Speaker 8: overthink that. It's it's great. You love it when when
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Speaker 8: the world is against you. I mean, right now, I
22:13
Speaker 8: didn't plan this, but you know I'm wearing a Golden
22:15
Speaker 8: State Warriors sweatshirt. When they got Kevin Durant. Yeah, that
22:19
Speaker 8: was funny. Everyone got mad at the Warriors and it
22:22
Speaker 8: was one of the best times in my sporting fan life.
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Speaker 8: So I love that everyone has a rooting interest in
22:28
Speaker 8: this World series.
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I was gonna get on you because you're
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Speaker 6: wearing a Dodger blue sweater and you're a Giants fan.
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Speaker 3: That's unacceptable.
22:34
Speaker 6: So I'm glad that you showed that because I was like, man,
22:37
Speaker 6: is he really wearing a Dodger sweatshirt? So one of
22:39
Speaker 6: the reasons if you're if you don't if you picked
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Speaker 6: the room for the Dodgers, what were the three reasons
22:43
Speaker 6: you said you're a Dodger fan.
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Speaker 3: You're Sandy Kofax or what was the third one?
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Speaker 8: You like showho Tony. That's reasonable, you know, especially I
22:51
Speaker 8: if you're overseas or if you're just getting into baseball,
22:55
Speaker 8: maybe you're a kid and you live somewhere where there's
22:57
Speaker 8: not a baseball team or there is, and you still
22:59
Speaker 8: love Stani. Totally fine, And it's not like if you
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Speaker 8: choose another reason, like you like the logo, you're a dork.
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Speaker 8: It just means that's what most people. They found their
23:09
Speaker 8: way to the Dodgers by being born into it by
23:13
Speaker 8: living in a certain area or being a big fan
23:15
Speaker 8: of Otani. The rest of the world falls outside that circle,
23:19
Speaker 8: and it's a pretty big circle.
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Speaker 5: So do you think Dave Roberts is right that the
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Speaker 5: Dodgers are ruining baseball?
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Speaker 8: I've thought that since like nineteen eighty two, and so
23:34
Speaker 8: I'm a little biased. No, I don't think, you know,
23:38
Speaker 8: when you go back, if the Dodgers, how would I put?
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Speaker 8: They're at least doing it in a way that I
23:43
Speaker 8: don't think you can repeat ad infinitum. I don't think that,
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Speaker 8: no matter how hard you want the next show Heotani,
23:50
Speaker 8: that there's going to be a next show heo Atani.
23:53
Speaker 8: I don't think that the next time there's a Mookie
23:55
Speaker 8: bets that his very rich parent franchise will give him
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Speaker 8: up that easy. I think a lot of things have
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Speaker 8: kind of fallen into place, and they have the Juggernaut already,
24:05
Speaker 8: they have the structural advantages, like I don't want to
24:08
Speaker 8: minimize that, but this kind of Dodger's dominance really relies
24:13
Speaker 8: on Shohyotani, and he's you know, he's not gonna come
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Speaker 8: around again. He's a superhero. This is it so that
24:20
Speaker 8: that's the way to kind of make peace with it.
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Speaker 2: You're talking me into really liking this matchup the Dodgers
24:28
Speaker 2: of the Evil Empire. You've got the star power with
24:31
Speaker 2: guys like Otani and Vladdie. But here I'll add this
24:34
Speaker 2: to the mix. And I know you included this in
24:37
Speaker 2: your all inclusive article. You have traditional it sounds where
24:42
Speaker 2: it even say traditional starting pitching where they actually will
24:46
Speaker 2: keep going in games. And then you also have contact
24:52
Speaker 2: and I know they can hit the slug too, but
24:54
Speaker 2: contact top contact team in the sport.
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Speaker 1: That's how you hook me in.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's that is the promise of a really fun
25:04
Speaker 8: world series. So even when you have Dodgers Yankees, it's
25:08
Speaker 8: a great matchup. You have great players on both sides.
25:10
Speaker 8: But you sort of knew how the outs were going
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Speaker 8: to get made. You were going to see a lot
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Speaker 8: of swing and miss. You're going to see a lot
25:16
Speaker 8: of big time swings that were going for the fences
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Speaker 8: and not getting it. But that's their game. This is different.
25:23
Speaker 8: This is a Blue Jays team that loves putting the
25:25
Speaker 8: ball in play. The Dodgers led the majors and strikeouts,
25:28
Speaker 8: so it's not it's not a given that they're just
25:30
Speaker 8: gonna whap the ball all over the ballpark. But they
25:33
Speaker 8: put the ball in play, and that's when things happen.
25:36
Speaker 8: It sounds simple, it sounds reductive, but anything can happen
25:40
Speaker 8: when a ball is in play. That is when you
25:42
Speaker 8: get the triple play. That is when you get the
25:44
Speaker 8: triple down the line. You get an inside the park
25:46
Speaker 8: home run, you get someone thrown out at the plate
25:48
Speaker 8: trying for an inside the park home run. You get
25:50
Speaker 8: a routine grounder to short, you get someone making the
25:53
Speaker 8: best play you've ever seen in your life at short.
25:54
Speaker 8: Balls in play are fun. Strikeouts are cool if the
25:57
Speaker 8: moment is right, but balls in play are just That's
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Speaker 8: why we watch baseball, and I get why teams are
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Speaker 8: strikeout heavy. I get how do you maximize your chances
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Speaker 8: of success if the ball isn't in play? But let's
26:10
Speaker 8: let's see some baseball and the Blue Jays offer that.
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Speaker 3: Okay, before we go to your team, who are you
26:17
Speaker 3: rooting for and who's gonna win?
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Speaker 8: I am a credentialed member of the Baseball Writers Association
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Speaker 8: of America and I can't officially root for a team.
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Speaker 3: I didn't.
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Speaker 6: That's what I said. I guess that wasn't the question
26:33
Speaker 6: who do you want to win? And who's gonna win?
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Speaker 8: Dodgers are gonna win, Okay, yeah, because they're they're they're
26:41
Speaker 8: the better team in Yeah, well it's you know, you
26:46
Speaker 8: can be a Giants, a Giants writer, and be a
26:48
Speaker 8: fatalist too. I think that fits in, uh with the
26:51
Speaker 8: general ethos.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 8: Who do I want to win? Honestly, like it sounds
26:55
Speaker 8: like a bit, but I just want some like a
26:58
Speaker 8: fun World Series, I really do. You just want a
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Speaker 8: game set like to me the ending of the World
27:04
Speaker 8: Baseball Classic with Otani and Trout. It was so perfect
27:07
Speaker 8: it felt scripted. I want something like that, and I
27:10
Speaker 8: don't care if it's Trout striking out or Trout getting
27:12
Speaker 8: the home run in this analogy, but I want seven
27:16
Speaker 8: games and I want people to be delirious. The best
27:19
Speaker 8: baseball experience I've ever had in my life was Game
27:22
Speaker 8: five of the twenty seventeen World Series. I was in
27:25
Speaker 8: the auxiliary press box in Houston and just watching a
27:29
Speaker 8: ballpark lose its mind in one of the wackiest games
27:31
Speaker 8: I've ever seen. I want that, but without revelations later
27:36
Speaker 8: that that maybe might spoil it a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so you want Kershaw to close it out for
27:41
Speaker 3: the Dodgers. Cool?
27:42
Speaker 6: As a Giants fan, I please, okay, But all right,
27:47
Speaker 6: so here's my choy. We're gonna go to the Giants.
27:48
Speaker 6: Now we're gonna go to your team. What did you
27:50
Speaker 6: think of the new manager? Higher, I think it's fascinating. Listen,
27:53
Speaker 6: Do I hope Tony Vaitello six undred percent? Do I
27:56
Speaker 6: think he's a good college coach? Absolutely?
27:57
Speaker 3: Do we know what kind of MLB manager is going
27:59
Speaker 3: to be? Absolutely not.
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Speaker 6: But it is gonna be mesmerizing to watch who he hires,
28:03
Speaker 6: what staffhires, where he goes. What is game planning is
28:07
Speaker 6: like what is bullpen? It's gonna be must watch TV
28:09
Speaker 6: for me every night to see how he handles his
28:11
Speaker 6: starting in spring training.
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Speaker 8: That's really the only way to think about it. The
28:17
Speaker 8: only way to approach this is this is interesting. This
28:21
Speaker 8: is curious because you've got not only is he never
28:24
Speaker 8: managed a game of the majors, He's never managed a
28:27
Speaker 8: game in the miners. He's never played a game in
28:29
Speaker 8: the miners. He has as many professional hits as I do,
28:32
Speaker 8: and he's just he's a total unknown. And I was
28:36
Speaker 8: thinking about it. And yes, you know, he's a gregarious guy,
28:39
Speaker 8: a leader of men, as they say, and he is
28:43
Speaker 8: supposed to be a very good communicator. All these things
28:46
Speaker 8: that are going to be what you want in any
28:49
Speaker 8: managerial candidate in twenty twenty five. But I really do
28:53
Speaker 8: think that one of the things that is a problem
28:56
Speaker 8: with a lot of teams, not just the Giants, but
28:58
Speaker 8: the Giants, is a lack of fundamental a lack of
29:01
Speaker 8: just getting people on the same page when it comes
29:05
Speaker 8: to hitting the cutoff man, making the right play, picking
29:08
Speaker 8: up your third base, coaches around the bases. It sounds simple,
29:11
Speaker 8: and I know Bob Melvin cared about that. It's not
29:13
Speaker 8: like he's hearing this for the first time. You going,
29:15
Speaker 8: wait a second, You're supposed to do those things. But
29:17
Speaker 8: they needed a new voice, someone who is used to
29:22
Speaker 8: not surprised when they're seeing a lack of fundamentals, perhaps
29:25
Speaker 8: at the major league level, someone who is able to
29:28
Speaker 8: communicate it without condescending. To these high paid superstars who
29:33
Speaker 8: have never struggled, you know, in their careers, when it
29:37
Speaker 8: comes to baseball over like a year long stretch, it
29:41
Speaker 8: just it seems to me like it's a they're trying
29:43
Speaker 8: to match that goal of teaching fundamentals with you know,
29:48
Speaker 8: getting guys on board. Buster Posey's convinced, and that's it
29:52
Speaker 8: would be different. I think if anyone else, if it
29:54
Speaker 8: Brian Saviian or Farnsiety, if they were trying to convince me,
29:57
Speaker 8: I'd be like, Okay, that's that's a big task. When
30:00
Speaker 8: Uster Posey says I think this will work, then it
30:03
Speaker 8: becomes less risky and more oh, this is interesting and
30:06
Speaker 8: we'll see how it works.
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Speaker 5: Do you feel like he was definitely his number one
30:10
Speaker 5: choice or do you feel like someone else denied the
30:14
Speaker 5: position or didn't want to take take on what it
30:17
Speaker 5: meant to manage the giants when they got Once they
30:20
Speaker 5: got farther in an interview process, it.
30:23
Speaker 8: Was Nick Hutley's job, if you wanted it. I don't
30:25
Speaker 8: think that's a secret. I think that you know, he's
30:29
Speaker 8: super close with Buster Posey when they met. I'm sure
30:32
Speaker 8: Posey at the time was just thinking for an entire season,
30:35
Speaker 8: this kid's going to be a manager one day, and
30:38
Speaker 8: you know, baseball works out in funny ways, and he
30:40
Speaker 8: had a chance, but he didn't want to go right
30:42
Speaker 8: back to the grind and Honestly, I don't know how
30:45
Speaker 8: anyone does, you know, retire as a player and then
30:48
Speaker 8: go immediately back to the grind. I feel like I
30:51
Speaker 8: would sleep for twenty years. I can't even believe you
30:53
Speaker 8: guys do this like I would. Just it's so much
30:57
Speaker 8: work to be, you know, a manager, swip player, a coach,
31:01
Speaker 8: and when you have kids at home. I'm surprised this
31:04
Speaker 8: doesn't come up more often, but it was Hunley's job
31:07
Speaker 8: if you wanted it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we'll see how Tony does. It's going to
31:12
Speaker 1: be fascinating to follow.
31:13
Speaker 2: I'm excited for You've got some storylines to follow this
31:17
Speaker 2: coming season for San Francisco. Buster Posey is making things
31:20
Speaker 2: a lot more interesting. I think that's safe to say
31:23
Speaker 2: for the writers out there. He's rooting for fun stories
31:26
Speaker 2: to cover.
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Speaker 1: And there you go. Grant, this was great.
31:29
Speaker 2: I'm all in I already was, but I'm even more
31:31
Speaker 2: all in on the world series.
31:32
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure of talking to you.
31:34
Speaker 2: Check out Grant and all his work in The Athletic
31:36
Speaker 2: also part of the ground Table podcast on the Athletic Network.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Grant, good talking to you man.
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Speaker 8: Thank you very much for having me on