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5. Starting from Zero w/ Logan Baert · Damaged Goods with Andrea Abbate

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean we still all laugh about it.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's trying to, you know, blood on the wall and everything.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of hilarious.
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  SPEAKER_02: Granddad headbutted the nail and he literally did the joker with the pencil thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: Straight up.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean I don't know, drywall of some people call it sheetrock, but it's like it's not that impressive.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, welcome to Damage Goes with Andrea ABBA, where we celebrate the dance and the craps and the terrible decisions we've made that make us who we are.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: And today we are with the damaged.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so today I'm really excited because we have one of my favorite people here, Logan Baird.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Did I say your name right?
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: Baird nailed it.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_03: I did.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_03: You nailed it.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because in my mind, my when I call you on the on the phone, you know, my Siri says Barts.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, she's like Logan Bert.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, they say names all wrong.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how they're gonna take over the world.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of speculation.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: I've had people add N's in there.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_03: Barent.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_03: Barent?
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: Bart.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: With Z.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_03: I get no respect.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you should get a lot of respect.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_03: Which is a miss.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like your last name's a mystery, though.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody knows how to say your last name.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_03: I've even seen you say it different in a couple of depends on the case.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_03: You'll tell you like, okay, it's this.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but they really, they really say it's a big thing.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: Barrett's bear with a T.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: Bear with the T.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: But what you want to remember about Logan is he's cute, he's funny, he's charming, he's going places.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I met him about a year ago.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Alex is here too.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm about to tell you, Alex, and then here's my co-host who could be introducing himself, but here's my co-host, Alex Dufont, who introduced me.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I want to remind myself that I introduced you to Logan and you guys hang out all the time.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_02: Introduce you to Whitney, uh, an earlier episode.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just introducing you to all your best friends.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's it, that's exactly what it is.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, Logan, we're so happy that you're here.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad to be here.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys for having me.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and thank you for giving me such a heads up weeks in advance.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_03: I really appreciate it.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_03: There's an entire process of beyond this.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_03: You guys bet your guys very well.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_03: Such heavy stuff.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_03: You give them months ahead of time, you tell them what's going on.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: You definitely don't wake them up out of midday, sweaty, non-air conditioning apartment naps.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: And seems grace over.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I screwed up.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: We were supposed to have somebody on, and then I'm like, where are they?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: By the way, right?
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for inviting me.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_03: Genuinely, yeah.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I'm very glad to be here.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I was like, where is my guest?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then I look and she said, I I would really love to be there on 9 14.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I had the dates wrong.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm like, only seven days off.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm only seven days off.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, can I go?
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Logan, I'll call Logan.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then boom, you answer the phone, and boom, you came racing down here.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: Before she called you, she was like, He has nothing going on.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: I did not say that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you did.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: She was racing down here.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Alex, Alex Dufont.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: This guy's always like, I was literally just panicking about potluck for the comedy store.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I was doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll go there right after.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: We'll go, we're gonna go there straight there.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I want to ask you just uh one of the things I ask all the guests, what rating would you give your childhood on Yelp?
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  SPEAKER_00: And why?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_03: Dang.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's such a good question.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know the measures of Yelp, I'm pretty anti-Yelp.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, five far as the highest.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: But I also feel like um it's your responsibility to have the type of experience you want to have.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: So to like rate something low, it's like the whatever, whatever was off.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's like get over it.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: But I would rate mine a five out of five.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_03: Because although there's plenty of trouble in it, yeah, um, it made me who I am.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: So you you don't want to be anybody else.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_03: I was thinking this the other day.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Alex will get this.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: He's I think Alex wants to be somebody else.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_03: He play you play video games.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit, yeah.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um what the heck, Andrew?
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm being funny.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: I always feel like um I got I get I at least I got to start at the beginning, like bottom, level one, experience all of life, no um no help.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: Wasn't a rich kid or like uh from a I'm my I'm from a like a broken home that like shout out to broken home home to a broken home to a broken, you know, my dad's home, his father passed me, he was 13 years old, their home crumbles, my home crumbled.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like you're just at just the starting block.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you get to build it from the ground up.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's like getting a car from a junk yard, right?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then you're like, let me find a new hood for this.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_03: Let me find but and you also get like name the car, you know.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like if there's Ford Mustangs out there, they're like, Do you want to name this Ford car?
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_03: And it just looks like a piece of shit.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_03: And you're like, oh, that's my car.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's my car.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_03: Of the Ford Logan.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um that analogy maybe cherish the greatest.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great question.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_03: I would have I would have never um, especially people with trauma, we like to brag about our trauma.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think nobody suffered more than me.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_03: I've suffered the most.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_03: But the way you asked that, that's interesting.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_03: That made me think about it.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't want any other way.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_03: Your child so I would say five out of five, nice because build it yourself.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I would recommend.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: But also, is that a little bit like uh you know, egotistical to be like you you should grow up like me?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: No, because you as you said it made you who you are, and you're happy with who you are, so that's good.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I didn't say you're trying to be happy with but you said you wouldn't want to be someone else, you wouldn't want to be someone else.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: No, I could be me.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I could be you.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: If I were you, then you'd be me and I'd use your body to get to the top.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_03: You can't stop me no matter who you are, Jim Perry, Ace Ventura.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: I got my body to get to the top.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: My body has been used, and it got me only here.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Never got me too much.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_03: Great question.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_03: Way to kick it off.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad I'm glad deeper.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're going deeper.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, what would you say the best thing of your childhood was?
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do the best of the city.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, genuinely, we I I did have uh by all measures a good childhood.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Where did you grow up?
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  SPEAKER_00: Tell me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Knox, Indiana.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: A very small town of about 3,000 people, 98 people in my graduating class.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_03: But um I grew up in dirt.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: This is not the part of Indiana that Michael Jackson's from.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_03: No, uh, it's a little south of there.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: Gary, Indiana's like up north.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_03: It we've drove through Gary.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, that would be exciting.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to do it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Terrifying.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: Gosh, this is I I did not expect this.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh how could I describe my childhood?
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Dirt, you said?
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_03: I'm from dirt.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: So in Knox, Indiana, I would say I was born in 1990, but I still grew up in the 70s, in the sense that like it was just late to everywhere.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: I always say this joke, like, if you remember Y2K, yeah.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: We got that in 2009.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's that's Knox.
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  SPEAKER_03: But small town, um, Army Bratywork.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: Army Brat born in Berlin, actually moved back into Knox, Indiana at three years old.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_03: And my my dad bought his parents' house and he moved into his parents' house.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Did he have a roof?
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: Had a roof, a leaky one.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_03: We we were probably repaired a roof right three times.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: For example, that's funny you mentioned that.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: When I when my dad was a kid in that house, he grew up in that house, the our front porch was a pig pen.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like they had pigs and a pen.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_03: And then when we moved in, that by then it had been remodeled that to where that it was the porch.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: So like a pig pen.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, when you think of army guys, you think of guys that are like uh doing pretty good.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think of it as an army as a job, like, oh, you're in the army, you wouldn't move back into your childhood home that had a pig pen in the porch.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it wasn't it wasn't then when he was a kid there, it had been, but since then it'd been remodeled.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: But how did he get to be so poor after the army?
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's not that I mean, so we had seven acres.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh it is the 90s.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he I don't know what he bought it off.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_03: I I guarantee it was like pennies compared to today, of course.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: But it's still standing this house.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: It is still standing.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's was sold um after he lost it to the bank.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_03: And it's actually remodeled and looks really nice.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I drive by there sometimes and I'm like, man, if people only knew like what that house became.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um because uh it ended up being, you know, uh my dad started remodeling it when we were like in middle school and he drank more than he built.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh so by the end of at college, no, by the like the end of like the the what do they call that, the teardown or whatever, stripped it of everything.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_03: He never built it back.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_03: So I just had we just had a house with no walls on the inside.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: No walls on the inside, no, no like insulation.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we started to like build the out rooms, but it never got never got even close to finish.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_03: But uh no flooring, just just raw wood on the floor, like uh plywood.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: My daddy plywood.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_03: But I can start painting like an awful picture, but my dad was a crazy alcoholic.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: Did you get a lot of splinters at your house?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, okay.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: But your dad was a crazy alcoholic.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm my dad was a crazy alcoholic.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: Having an alcoholic parent really gives you a head start.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: You're you're used to like trying to reframe things and and you're good at lying.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta do it.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: And you also did, but when you're young, you don't know that that's really going on.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: Because I I would say the happy childhood, we had Sega Genesis, PlayStation, we had the games, we had dirt bikes eventually.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_03: We're like riding dirt bikes and paintballing, and like like in a very hill, my dad bought us all uh BB guns, and we just put on like these classes.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: Tiny, tiny goggle.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: We would sh have bb gun wars in the field.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like most parents wouldn't be like, Yeah, go shoot your brother with a bb gun.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: But like he's like, This won't pierce skin, you guys will be fine.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I remember my dad said what we did, we did a same thing.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: We did the same thing, and my dad said, I remember once my brother fell out of the tree and broke his collarbone, and then he wanted to come in.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: And my dad was like, No, it's already broken.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what could happen?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you're already broken, stay out there.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's already broken.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was our motto.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's already, you know, walk it off.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but what what did the healthcare system look like then?
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: Could he go like, okay, let's go to the doctor's office, or is it like, nah, he's not open, it's Sunday.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know what it was.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: All I know is there was no sympathy.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and he had two things of okay.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: One, uh, walk it off.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: And number two, I think this is an army thing, rub some dirt on it.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: Rub some dirt on it.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: That was my pops.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: He used to punch us in the arm, and he's like, You can I'm gonna tell you, uh tell you boys how to like handle pain.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, Yeah, and he like punch you soft at first, and he goes, Now, now just imagine the pain spreading through your body and like balancing it out so it goes to your body, and you don't feel and I mean I believed anything my dad said.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's like really, so he like hit me hard.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, Do it! And I'm like, and I was like, Oh, it worked.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it worked.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: I was a kid, I would just believed everything he said, but like army dudes, that would be something that army dudes would do.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_03: We did a thing, he would let us like put on his uh army gear and his like paint, and we had a creek down the road from us, probably like a mile.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: Creek, a crick.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have a crick, Alex?
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, but your dad was an army dude.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he was he was drafted out of high school in Vietnam, but okay, but that that's definitely yeah, old dad.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: Old dad, yeah.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: So did he punch you?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because my dad definitely did that.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: My dad, no, no, no, he never hit me, but he made it very clear that he could fuck me up.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that's the best.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: Where it's like, hey, I'm not gonna hit you, but I'll move you.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_02: Where you're just talking shit and he goes, Okay, over here.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, but you would talk shit too.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Go up.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, you know, it's you get fucking pissed off as a kid.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you want to start like talking back and shit.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: So you start.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: I was too afraid to do any of that.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, I never oh dude, I was like such a I I was prideful.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: I fucking yeah, I was just at it with him all the time.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you something my dad did.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you and I have the same dad.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: My dad would hide in the closet and then come out.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: My dad was 6'4, come out and punch you in the stomach.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: And really, be like, oh, and he'd go, always be ready to be sucker punched, always be ready.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then I've got abs for days right now because I walk around like that all my childhood.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh because you don't walk through the house without being ready to be sucker punched.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Dad's gonna pop out and fucking punch my lights out if I don't hold my stomach in.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Did your dad want you to be ready to be sucker punched?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Gosh, you gotta be ready.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but never like that.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: We were always ready for a home invasion.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_03: We had we had guns behind every door of our house.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: Literally every we and we had three doors, which is facing out, not trying to brag.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: Three doors at its three door house.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: All right, okay.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: Three doors, zero walls.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I think one of those doors was made from him shooting a hole in it, but turn on the window.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: You have to do it.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he was like, Yeah, in case an intruder comes, where we have a there's like they're not loaded, there's a rifle behind each door, so it'd be like you have to go to the door, you hear a pounding, you have a gun there.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: But he's like, So let's say you hear a pounding on the front door.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: What's the front door gun?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: And then you'd have to know the gun, you'd be like, 20 gauge, and you'd be like, okay, now where's the ammo for the 20 gauge?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: And he would hide ammo throughout the house.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: So then you're like 20 gauge, front door, grandma's urn, go get the shell.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then you're ready for the intruder.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: My dad really cared about you guys have shotguns at every door, but once you were saying once my dad.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: This was partially me and my older brother's fault.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_03: But a bear actually escaped from the South Bend Zoo.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: Did you hear about this?
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, like did we hear about it?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody heard about the bear escaping from the South Bend Zoo in 1997.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: Unbelievable.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_03: But we terrified my little brother Lance, like no, it could be.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think, and then my older brother would be like, dude, did you see that out there like earlier?
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like the big black thing in the back of the wood.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: I think I did.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: So Lance could not sleep.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, you know, runs in there, Dad.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think the bear, whatever.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_03: Dad, of course, knows nothing's out there, but he goes, Oh, he was this sick of it.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: Just loaded the gun, and he just used to he used to do this all the time, see how fast it's a single shot.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: He would just see how fast he could load and shoot.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like you shoot and then you the pop the shell and you go.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, he's drunk.
• 14:53
  unknown: Wait.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: The skill.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, he was so good though.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: My dad was like a sniper.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: You would trust him no matter what.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_03: And that so he would just go blast off out into the woods just to make you feel safe.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: You'd just hear pow pow pow, and he'd be like, All right, if anything's out there, it's gone now.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: And then you just go to sleep.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: There were times where my dad was awesome.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: My dad was actually awesome, probably like 80% of the time, even when he was drunk.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: But the things he did when he was drunk that were, you know, bad were they just sucked.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: It was just not good.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: And they they added up, and it was really just a two-year put period, probably, or three years, where it was like extremely um uh mentally abusive and things like that, physically abusive.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: But it just happened in my like eighth grade to 11th grade where it just messed me up for a minute.
• 15:39
  unknown: Yeah.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: Did your mom stay the whole time with that guy?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: That is what you want to do, ladies.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: My mom stayed until I said it was time to leave.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_03: My dad was.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't do I we want to say the dark stuff on here.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, do we want to say that?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_03: This is damaged goods.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: We are damaged.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so my dad was like, you know.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm just judging you guys as well.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, getting physical with my my mom and uh having sex?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: No, Jesus Christ, Andrea.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, hitting her, right?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, throwing a big thing.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: Pushing around, throwing around, and it's happening.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_03: My older brother's like in his room.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: We have at this time there are two rooms with walls.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: So we had rooms uh just at the back of the house, and I just go like I walk in there, he's like kind of on his computer, he knows it's happening, like it's kind of just the repeat thing.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: There's daytime to throw him off.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I go, hey man, I go, we we gotta do something.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: And he just looks at me, takes a sigh, takes his headphones off, he just gets out of his room, he goes, Dad, what are you doing?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: And then he just turns on him and just I mean, he just beat the hell out of my older brother.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And how old was your older brother?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: He he just turned 18.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, um, he was working at the KFC.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you were 16?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was oh, my older brother's four years older than me, I was 14.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I see.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's what threw him through him through actually threw him through a wall.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, brand new wall.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's why the house couldn't stay.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, he would also jump.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: My dad jumped through a wall one night, just mess.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you think he was he would destroy more than he would build.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_03: Oh gosh, and the house I mean there there are some funny things like a photo fell off.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: He was like yelling, and he bumps in the wall, and the photo falls off, and he's like, and there's a nail sticking out, and he's yelling at all of us, saying he's not being crazy, and then he headbutted the nail into the wall.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: Just right into the drywall on purpose.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: He's just like he's yeah.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we still all laugh about it.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's trauma, you know, blood on the wall and everything.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of hilarious.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: He literally did the joker with the pencil thing, yeah.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: Straight up.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, drywall, some people call it sheet rock, but it's like it's not that impressive.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, well, so when my the next day my older brother left, he moved in, he moved in with his girlfriend, he had had enough, and then I realized I'm like, oh, now it's me.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm the guy that has to stand up.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: So mom, we gotta go.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: So months later, I'm not sure how long the the timeline is, but eventually dad's chasing me around the kitchen table.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm just like distracting him.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: I could probably run.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: I I would do this around the cars too until they just wear him out.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a good strategy, yeah.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh so your mom could like get out the way.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this one she he he was just raging, she was already in bed.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: I knew she was tired and didn't want to deal with it, so I'm like, all right, I'm on shift here.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: And uh then I just walked in after like too much of it.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: I just walked in the room.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, all right, mom, we're well, let's go.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: And my grandma, her mother lived down the road, and uh we left.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Moved to grandma's, and I remember um my grandpa, rest his soul, he met us at the on the porch on their porch, a deck, a fancier porch, and goes, All right, if you guys come in, you're not going back.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: And she said, Okay.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: And then we never went back.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, good for you, Logan.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: Good for you.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I ended up going back.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: I did.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: I ended up going back to like try to live with him one time to try to save him because he was a how'd that work out?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: It never works, it never works.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, you know what?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: I went and visited my dad who uh one time because I felt bad for him.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: I had had a baby.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: Is this the darkest episode?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: I I just had anything.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, no, no, not at all.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: Not at all, man.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: Your life is pretty good, actually.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, see, me thinking I'm the most this.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: You're such a tortured artist.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my dad punched me, whatever.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Your fucking neck deep t-shirt.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: You're such a tortured.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: Also, I'd like to the audience to know I'm not a neck deep fan, but this shirt is sick, and I think everybody can agree.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's a sick shirt.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's a tick-shirt.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_03: This band is trash.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: They're just, oh yeah, it's an enemy, or some.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even know.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: They're terrible.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: I tried to get into them.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, okay.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: Your father.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: My father, I forgot.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, when I felt sorry for him, when I for when I when I felt sorry for him, and I thought, you know, I'll go, I didn't think I was gonna save him, but I just kind of felt bad.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, he hasn't shown me any interest since I had this kid.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't come down, probably because he can't confront the family.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: He's drinking, and maybe he just feels all alone up there in his house with his uh new person that he's with.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I'll drive up and see dad and show him the baby, and you know he'll be proud.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: He'll be proud and he'll be so happy to be part of it.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: Throw all of his alcohol out of his house.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he won't want to miss this.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's time to be a grandfather.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's time to be a grandfather, Dad.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: So he's up there.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Dal Dolly Pardon.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: My dad had her on quadriphonics.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: That was a big thing.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: Quadriphonics was that surround sound in 19.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what it was, but he was all into it.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: He had a little cabin at this time up by Yosemite, but it had an elevator in it, like to go up to the second floor.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how he's rolling.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: Rich childhood.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is not my childhood, but yeah.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: My dad's not wearing shoes.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a big case, I think it's called a case of Budweiser lights on the floor, and then it's kind of get over there, shuffle over, get a Budweiser, go, get a Budweiser, go.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: So he's there with his new wife, who's uh I think I was 23 at the time, and she was like 22.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she was younger than me, but she had one of those voices that was like, ah, Andrea, nice to meet you.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like very camel cigaretted out and beer and camels.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: And she looked, uh anyway, she was living her life with him.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm here I am with my brand new baby.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so my dad, oh, let me see him, takes him.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: My baby is about four months old.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's huge, my kid's six five.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: So he's a big baby.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: But but my dad obviously knows.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, sets him on the pool table.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see if he can sit up.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: This is a brand new baby.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: My baby instantly falls to the ground onto the hardwood floor that was from the pool table to the ground.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, in my mind, what am I?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot yell at my dad.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm too afraid to.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: I can't.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, oh, let me get him.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: He fell.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: My dad's cracking up.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Can't even sit up.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: He's lit.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, he's lit.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then she's laughing.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's laughing.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: They're having a good time.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I just have my kid and I'm just like, what are you doing?
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why did you drive four hours to find this man who showed no interest and thinking that's this is gonna mean something to him?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I just, you know, stayed in my room and and then the next day I left and was like, okay.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: What did your dad do?
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: What was like his?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: My dad got murdered a few months after.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh I think we I came up in maybe uh I don't remember when I was up there, uh April or uh March, and he passed away in May.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you know what I mean?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad I at least uh What did he do for a living though?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh he sold produce over the phone.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: He sold produce, he was a produce seller.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'll be another episode.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, no, he just had a lot of enemies.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, he was nothing like that.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: He was nothing like that.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now I want to ask you another question.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: Dang, I got a question for you now.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what's your question?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think that is that we want to you wanted to go back and and show your baby to your dad?
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's delusion.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's delusion that in my mind.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: For what reason well I'm just gonna tell you, I'm imbuing him with all these attributes that he does not have.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking, God, if it was me and I was an alcoholic, and maybe I'd be embarrassed.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: I hadn't seen my kids, but maybe I would want my daughter to come over here.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'd feel so sad and I'd be embarrassed to come and show my face.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: So I'll help him.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'll go.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll go and you know what I mean.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's probably exactly what he needs.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: I could care less.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just being delusional, and I carried that delusion into relationships.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: So this is my question to you because I will sit across.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say Alex is my boyfriend or a guy I'm going out with.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: I will sit across, no matter what he says.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say he says, Yeah, I have a uh temper, I'll be like, Oh, he's so passionate.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's a really passionate guy because that is something that blah blah.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: If a guy says, I'm gonna whatever they say, I make it, I gloss over it.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know what?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I can see the potential in this person, and I just I see what I want to see, regardless of what red flags you show me, or facts you tell me, or ways you try.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm seeing what I want to see.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: But what is the proof of the potential?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: Does that mean you just see them if it's somebody that catches your eye?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, they're handsome.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: Now you're sort of attaching attributes to them, or have they yeah, you know what I mean?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're initial thing that makes you go, I see something in them.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: They like me.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's all uh they like me.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_03: They like me.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's about it.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: They don't like me, I'm out.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: If you like me, I'm in.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm in.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: Do whatever you want to mean as long as you like.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: So if they like me and they're cute, I've never asked about a bank account or anything like that.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're cute and you like me, I'm thrilled.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm on top of the world.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you have a drug problem, but you know, we can handle that.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: You have uh this, you you But not in well, obviously you're married, but like I'm I got over the hard.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's how you found your current husband and things like that.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I want to ask you guys both this.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: I this is the red flags I have looked over.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: I went out with a guy who had his car filled with beer cans and uh did you date my dad?
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I did.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: Did you bring me here today?
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Here he is.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Dad, come on out.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Come on out.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: You're my mother.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: I would and I'm your son.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: I would be so lucky if you were my mom.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh but also I love my mom.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: My mom's awesome too.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, we all love your mom.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: Someone need to trade my mama.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_03: So compliment to Andrew mom, she's pissed now.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: He would be so lucky.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: He loves you, but he would be so lucky if I could step in for five minutes.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, is I convinced myself that this guy was into recycling.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's why there were so many cans and bottles.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: He's your recycler.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: That is a red flag I overlooked.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he all also lied and told me.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: I go, what are you all these cans?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, Well, I recycle.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he maybe he does.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Recycles all the things that he drank that night.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: But what is a red flag?
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: What is one of the worst red flags you've overlooked, Logan?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's too hard to say because I feel like I don't think men are that think that hard about it.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know if I would even say that.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'll still just take the blame for all of them.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like the red flag is just always You me.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I wasn't good enough, so like they moved on and they but the it always works out for them.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm like, oh yeah, like that dude's way better.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's not even hard, not even the never dated the girl with the red flag.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I for sure dated an alcoholic for way too long.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, for sure.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: And and did you not know liked me, man?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: And also she's really cute, man.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, see?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: We have that in common.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: We have that in common.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: She liked me and she's really cute.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: They have to be really cute because you have to be able to get lost in their eyes or their hair or something while they're talking about it.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they have shit.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's because they have options, they're cute, so they have a lot of options, but they chose you.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's what makes you feel good.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: But I do well.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think that's I agree with that.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Do you agree with that?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: It gives them clout in my mind.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: They have options, they're choosing me.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the winner already.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's up to me to keep it going.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: But I was I think that exact thing.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: But is there do you ever look at them like they better keep this going?
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like they bet because I don't think nobody's doing that.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody's judging you on that.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: But we we think we are.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe they think that too about me.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: They're the whole time they're like, I I've heard had girls tell me this, like, I'm do you even like me?
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like after we've been dating, and I'm like, yeah.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: But what do you mean?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: What when you say yeah?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Do you mean you don't really oh you do well?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: I do this thing and something I'm working on.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: What is it?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_03: And haven't dated since and don't plan to do it anymore.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_03: But I need I need validation.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: I don't feel like they like me, so I'll be like a brick wall.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: I just don't show like any emotion until like on every day's like a new day.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like an edge a sketch.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: You wake me up and I'm like, I have to, this person needs to show that they like me or I don't think they like me.
• 29:20
  unknown: Wow.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's your default setting.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's my default setting on on just probably some childhood stuff.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: So, but as soon as like you're if you're like in the morning, you're like, hey, good morning, like you're nice to me.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, they do like me, and then I'm good.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: But if you forget to do that, I'll just be like, I'm basically just a guy in your apartment.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like what about you, Alex?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: What is a red flag you have ignored in another?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's pretty basic.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't really have one of those, to be honest, but um I have I have I always convinced myself that I like like kind of like the basic woman who's like doesn't do a lot of cool stuff, she's kind of boring a little bit.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa, she's kind and pretty.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: But then I get into that relationship with her and I'm like, this is fucking boring.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so boring.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like I convince myself I like that type of woman because obviously if I was like perfect, I would I would like embrace that woman, and then I'm in the relationship, and it's like the tenth time.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, yeah, you want to do something?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's like go to the same coffee shop, get matcha.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's like who fucking likes matcha, it's like basic shit.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I like I I guess I convince myself I like the basic woman, and I realize like I'm in it, I'm like, this is boring, and then I feel guilty.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you feel yeah, it does, but you feel like you should like the basic woman.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I feel like I should.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: You feel like, yeah, like they're great, they're good people and they're pretty and stuff, but there's like you know, there's no spark or anything.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, like a spark.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so no, I don't pick a good person, I will shove a good person out of the way to get it to a person that's damaged.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's like move, look at this person here.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, a boring, uh, as you say, the basic model.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I'm married to the basic model right now, and that's one of the things that is he loves hearing that.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: What I mean.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: Or she, or she it's 2026.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think he's basic.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's a really talented dude.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: But you're but I'm using your definition of basic as a good person who's kind and does it.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's what he is.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's not bringing drama.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's not saying, oh my God, let me just tell you about this.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not catching him watching some bizarre porn that, or I'm not catching with a guy, I'm not catching with this, that, or the other.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's uncatchable.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: He's just do he's loyal, he's that's what I thought you meant as basic.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: But he's loyal, he's kind, he's good, he's virtuous.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: All the things that I was like, I roll, I roll, I roll.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: But but for some reason, because I worked on myself a lot, I was able to be attracted to that.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: And boy, has it changed my life because he doesn't bring a problem, he is a problem solver, he creates no problems, and I'm just sane enough, I guess, to be like, oh, okay, this is good.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I wasn't before, I would just like a relationship podcast mostly.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, I wonder.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: I just it's just called damaged goods.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about things, but I was wondering just because I feel like my drug, my my alcohol like abuse of father led, I feel like contributed to my um delusion in relationships.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_03: And since our parents were simple, I was just wondering if you had I I think so, but I and I always wonder like I always want to know like the exact mechanisms.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I had this happen to me speaking about how we thought we could save him.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_03: And that those specific words, actually.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I remember I wrote I went back to my dad's house after I graduated high school and I wrote a door on his a note on his door, and I was like, he had I'd went and visited him and he was in a very drunk stupor, and he was saying, I just need a good woman to save me, Logan.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I need is a good woman, because I've been trying to get him to get sober.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: So I wrote a note and I just said, you know, Dad, I would like to move in with you.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_03: This and that.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: Let me come stay with you.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_03: I can get you sober.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: We don't need to get I'll help you.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a good woman.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a good I'm your lady.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm your gal, Dad.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: And I think I went back the next day and ended up tearing that note off because something happened.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, something came up.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was talking with my brothers maybe two or three years ago, and both of them in separate conversations said, you know, I tried to save dad once.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: I tried to save dad once.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I never, and they all said that those words I tried to save them.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: Cut to the funeral.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: No, cut to.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm I'm working here and I'm a garbage man in Culver City, and I'm like the side man.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: I was a garbage man for like a year and a half.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: I will do anything to try to do comedy.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: I will do anything to try not to do comedy, actually.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: To because dreams are hard to chase, scary to chase.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_03: And I used to have this OG black dude who was like my driver.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: I was a side guy.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: We were a team.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: We'd go around, you know, and uh we would tell stories, so he started to build a little picture of me, and I was dating this girl who was like a mess.
• 34:29
  unknown: Okay.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I was addicted to her.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_03: And um I'm explaining to Zach this, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: And uh he just out of nowhere, it just like goes quiet and he goes, you know what, Logan?
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: You know why you keep trying to fix this girl?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: She reminds you of your dad.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: You're trying, you're trying to save her, man.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and it was just the most real thing.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I just was like, it was just quiet in the garbage truck for the next thing.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_03: This is the most real thing.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: And he she's she's like, Your father, you're just trying to save her, man.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, dang, he goes, You need to get away from that girl.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_03: Go go out that nurse you went out with last week, like this and that.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: This guy's fucking awesome.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, he was Houston.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Can we get him on the podcast?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_03: Zach would be great.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_03: He works for LA now.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: But did you do, did you follow his advice?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh eventually when I got sober.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, see, you got yourself sober.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty good.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I got myself sober as well.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think, well, I think it's the only way.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, truly, I people can help you and get do all these things, but um, only you can decide that you're gonna quit drinking or using drugs or or start using and start drinking.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: You can't start doing them and go, well, I had a bad day, or this person was this to me.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: No, you decided.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they call that victimese, right?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: You just pretend to be a victim, like, well, and here's the reason I do this, here's the reason I do that.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: So that's very interesting.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: Don't you think this stuff is interesting?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever stalked an ex?
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: No, never.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: I literally will.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: If we're gonna be a good one.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you're the runaway or person.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: I don't run away.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: We break up.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: I take it like a man.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh my first breakup, I helped her pack all her stuff into a U-Haul while her mom was there crying because her mom loved us together.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: And it was fun, it was whatever.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: My other ex, I first time I ever broke up with somebody, and I but here is the thing.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: I just will never talk to you again.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's okay.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, uh I block, I block them all.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: I get I just will just go like, all right, man.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because who wants to have that relationship?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_03: No, you don't want to go back drag on and they're back together, and then it's just no, you don't want to be that.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: Now I've done that not dating.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: I've had a girl where we were just seeing each other, and I was just we were on the cusp of dating for years.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: For years, like two years, and it was just like every time I was like, Oh, I think she's gonna like start dating, like be exclusive with me, and then oh, then you go that way.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: There'd be another data.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: I would there'd be another fella.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: Another fella.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: I I have not only stalked a guy, I think girls are a little bit.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's flattering.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to be stalked, and I know I would love it.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I will put that down, but you can put that on your tinder list.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to be stalked.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: I went to my girl with my girlfriend, she was dating this guy, and uh she thought he was really something, but then she got his ad and she's like, come with me to his house, and and just let's you know do a little we we didn't say stalking, recon.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: We called it recon.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so we get to this house.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: This is the kind of house, this is like in August, it's got Christmas tree lights on it.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: It it was pretty downtrodden, and now we're going through the trash.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the the it's trash night, so the trash, so we just open it up, yeah.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's recon.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_03: And to see what's like breaking a federal law.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can't go through someone's trash.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, listen to the trash man.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_03: I know I know trash.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_03: I know a little something.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot look through someone's trash.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: All right, I think you can anyway.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: This was over seven years ago.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: What we found in the trash was the fact, and and what I really admired about my girlfriend was that even though she was in love with this guy, and now we're looking at his place, and it is not looking good, it is not what she thought it was, she was still liking him.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we're going through the trash, and lo and behold, we pick up this envelope, and we then pick up more and more and realize we are the wrong house.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: And she fell in love with uh his neighbor.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: We it was north or east or west, and so then we went to the right one.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, oh bam, look at this place.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: Now we're looking through the trash of the real place where this guy lives, and she's getting all upset.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: He was married, by the way.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and she's like, Look at look at these blueberries, these are from Whole Foods, and there's still four left in here.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: There's like$8.99.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: His wife is ripping him off.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Look at this, and we're going to look at this wine.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: This is so expensive.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, okay, well, we've done enough now, but I did even worse when I was uh going.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's so funny though to go through what yeah, that could be like a YouTube dating show.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: They're running out of ideas out there.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: You just go through a guy's garbage and make it.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: Would you date him based on his trash?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, would you date him based on his trash?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: Just a minute now.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: Love his trash.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: But I just love that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: But she could go to the other house and be like, I don't know, the other guy's garbage was better.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: Just go date a guy on his garbage.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: You're just totally jealous.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, look at this broken tennis racket.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: He plays tennis.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: Smelling old coffee filters.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: Is that a light roast?
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: Notes of caramel.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's visited Chile.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's got the real cereal.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: None of this fake stuff.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: The name brand.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: The name brand.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's got Cheerios, right?
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: But I once went, I once broke up with a guy, and it it was not as as you say, my finest moment.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: I not only went through his trash with my girlfriend, I went back to the house that you know I didn't live with him.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: I lived in the sorority at this time, but I went back to his little apartment and went through it and took a few things.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: I took some stationery that he had.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_03: This is breaking and entering.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: But that's a long time ago.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a seven-year thing.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: We need to look that up.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_03: But he knows.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_03: These are hypothetical stories.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: He had this really cool stationary that was thick, uh thick paper stationery.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then it said, when you this was a big thing at the time.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't live in Beverly, uh something like if you don't live in Beverly Hills, you're just camping out.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it said that in block letters on it.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: I took a few of those pages.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Then I think I'm not sure.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_03: That's what the rich think of us.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think I took his attendance record, I'm not sure, but I did take the cocaine that was in his refrigerator.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: Not all of it, some.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh then we left.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that I also think I took a uh And you broke up with him.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: You said this?
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: You broke up with him and then robbed him.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: That robbed him.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's not correct.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: I just kind of I call it stalking with mementos.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_03: With mementos.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: I was nostalgic about those things about him.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Collecting things, his his tennis racket, a little bit of cocaine, and I don't, you know, he had a lot.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_03: But why?
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even like you broke up with him, and then you it I don't know.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was just a kind of a fun sneaky.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_03: Were you on um drugs?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember, probably, you know, not at the I'm not saying like literally, but like where you use it.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: You weren't sober, right?
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_03: So no, I was we have mmm maniacal thoughts on Richard.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: I liked sneaky things when I was cool, the rush sneaky things are sneaking in here, and then it was so fun laughing with my friend and running out.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: What you tell me you don't really have you ever broken into somebody's house and taken anything, Alex?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do not cut this out.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, not taking anything.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: I've broken into people's houses before, though.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_02: But their backyards and whatever jumping.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: But that you were dating or just people you knew?
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: People I didn't know.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, people you didn't know.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: You just went in for the fun rush of the sneaky thing, right?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: So fun.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: What about you?
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_03: People I knew, but we would pay play jokes on each other.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: My cousins lived in the back of our property, and I knew where they're they live in the back of your property.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're setting up.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we sold them.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: So this is my grandma's she had 20 acres, this whole thing.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, we I could get into their house.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_03: So they were like at home, we'd be like spying, and we called them ninja missions, and we'd be like, I get my buddies over, like, oh dude, let's go.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_03: And we'd get in and we'd cut the power off.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: Because you just knew where the electrical box was, so you can just cut their power off, and then they're like running around the house.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: Then we then just like I knew a window that they always kept open, so then we'd go in that window and then try to get in the house and then try to like pop out and scare them just by ninja missions.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like, but we would put on like whole ninja suits, but and they would do it to us.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Put on ninja suits.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was really fun.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_03: But also, my dad like taught us like you know the yard lights.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: This is like a country thing, but mostly a house have yard lights.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we have to wrap up, but finish your story and then we'll take a book.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_03: They have a little sensor on the top, so when the sun comes, it turns it off.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you shine those with a light, you can turn the light off, it'll stay off for like five minutes.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_03: So you can just boom, you'd be take a spotlight, turn it off, and then now their yard's dark.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_03: We would do that.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, man.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty good.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: I knew there's reasons I like you love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: If I was a kid, man, I would enjoy that so much.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_02: That would be super cool.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't do that when I was 25 at all.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was in my I was I was under 20 when I did that, my little mission.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: But you guys, I guess what we've learned today is that no, but I mean, you know what?
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: This podcast is too deep to be.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: I know we're low on time, but you should go longer.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: Well, not right now, but I mean like at another time.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_03: We'll we'll do a part two.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: We'll call you last minute next time, too.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll call you last minute.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: Run over here and tell five minutes of a story.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, this has been Damaged Goods with Andrea Abbott.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad you joined us.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: And remember, you might be damaged, but you're still on the shelf, right?
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm priced to move.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: I know Logan is.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_03: I got a clearance tag on me.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: I want to thank you.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Alex, for co-hosting this.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, thank you.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Logan, for being with us.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Can you just tell people you where they can find you on Instagram, etc.?
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_03: Instagram at Logan Barrett.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: How do you spell it?
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: YouTube Logan Barrett.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: B-A-E-R-T.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_03: Logan is like every Logan that ever Loganed.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that's it.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: Logan Barrett, though, I do stand up comedy.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_03: Come to a show.
• 45:07
  unknown: Okay.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: He might like you if you like him.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: Bye, thank you.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: Damaged goods.