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NFL Week 5 - Contrarian Constructions | Main Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Roster Construction · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for lift-up. What is going on,
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Speaker 1: Shippen Nation YouTube station?
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Speaker 2: We are back with another edition of the Contrarian Construction Show.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to my guy a little bit pre-show. Uh-oh. Oh,
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Speaker 1: before the show, almost a pick. Sorry about that.
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Speaker 2: Matt, hey, before I bring you in, man, it's a
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Speaker 2: busy day in Chicago today, but who is the busiest
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Speaker 2: man in Chicago this morning?
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Speaker 1: Man, hopefully someone from the Guardians, because that's not, it
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be in Chicago, but no, I don't, I don't,
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Speaker 1: I don't read where you're going with this. I don't.
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Speaker 2: The busiest man in Chicago is that White Sox equipment manager.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Murakami, turn your shit in. Hey, turn your shit in.
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Speaker 1: It is the season over.
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Speaker 2: The Guardians of the Dead. My boy Matt was on
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Speaker 2: one last night. I could imagine it was rocking and rolling.
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Speaker 2: J-Ram hit a freaking nine iron off the dirt into
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Speaker 2: the right field wall.
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Speaker 1: So congrats to Matt. Congrats to the Guardians for coming
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Speaker 1: back with that. I did read what you were putting down.
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Speaker 1: I just couldn't get all the way there. You're almost there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're almost there. You're a little bit smarter than me,
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Speaker 1: so I couldn't get all the way there. But yes,
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. What a run. What a comeback for the
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Speaker 1: guards in that series. And we're excited to take on
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Speaker 1: Tampa in round ALCS.
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Speaker 2: Taking on Tampa. Then I know my boy Newman's and
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Speaker 2: Nate's entitled. All happy for that other one as well. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: but this is an NFL show. We're going to get
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Speaker 2: right into it. Sean Sully says that Jenty being in
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Speaker 2: is ready to rule in his bill. So, yeah, so
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Speaker 2: if you get that news, you should get it any
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Speaker 2: second now. Jenty in, Jenty out. That's kind of the
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Speaker 2: talk of the slate. Matt, now we're talking a little
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Speaker 2: bit pre-show running back. It doesn't make much sense to
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Speaker 2: get contrarian today. There are so many good running back
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Speaker 2: options with no Menunga, with no Dowdle, with no– well.
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Speaker 1: Jente's up in the air. Who else am I missing?
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Speaker 1: Nobreece Hall. From running back. Nobreece Hall. You got Gibbs
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Speaker 1: in like the best spot possible, and he's just a
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Speaker 1: monster as is. You know, Emmanuel Wilson still looming. So
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Speaker 1: just good running back. How much is questionable? Yeah. Good
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Speaker 1: running back plays all over the board. It's like one
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Speaker 1: of those slates where you can play the lesser owned
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Speaker 1: of the good running backs, but getting too far off
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Speaker 1: the board might not make too much sense. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I mean, I've been building lineups all day yesterday,
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Speaker 2: all day today. And it just, it just, you keep
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Speaker 2: coming back to the same, same people. I feel like
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Speaker 2: the Trey Harris's of the world. Now you got Kendrick
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Speaker 2: Bourne cheap on both sites that we'll get into. You
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Speaker 2: got a JSN who people can maybe or may not
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Speaker 2: get to. So, Looking forward to breaking it all down,
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Speaker 2: talking about some ways, contrarian ways to get there.
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Speaker 1: Got that Mega Millie over on DraftKings today.
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Speaker 2: Obviously have the standard $ 20.
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Speaker 1: Millie as well. What you're seeing on my screen is
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Speaker 1: the Stone 2.0. I'm going to go ahead and sort
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Speaker 1: it by position by position.
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Speaker 2: We'll go quarterback position today, and sounds like the Bengals
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Speaker 2: are going to have some good news, Matt.
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Speaker 1: You got T.
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Speaker 2: Higgins and Jamar Chase in, and that's obviously a receiver,
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Speaker 2: so Joe Burrow. who's the most expensive quarterback on the slate.
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Speaker 2: He's not going to get owned. Talk to me, how
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Speaker 2: are you handling quarterback today, especially with Goff and Brissette
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Speaker 2: in the action?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man. I mean, not even talking about Goff himself,
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Speaker 1: just Brissette alone looks like one of the best quarterback
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Speaker 1: plays that we'll have on paper all year from a projection,
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Speaker 1: optimal standpoint. The problem is that with that comes ownership
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Speaker 1: so it's hard not to like start every position with
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Speaker 1: talking about that game because that's just you know the
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Speaker 1: elephant in the room and i do think that if
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Speaker 1: you're playing one lineup you know the reason you don't
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Speaker 1: play one of the quarterbacks from that game is for
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Speaker 1: ownership and that's really i mean certainly things can play
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Speaker 1: out differently but on paper i don't think there's a
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Speaker 1: quarterback that matches up to either of those guys Goff
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Speaker 1: looks really good. He's been really good this year. His
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Speaker 1: defense is awful, so they're continuing to have to push
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Speaker 1: the ball down the field. And then Brissette, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've just read this book over and over again. Last
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Speaker 1: year was optimal, what, like 10 straight weeks? Same situation
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Speaker 1: as Goff. The defense isn't very good, and he's proven
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Speaker 1: that he's good enough to push the ball down the field. Consolidated,
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Speaker 1: even more consolidated now with no Marvin Harrison. When you
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Speaker 1: start talking about quarterbacks, You have to start with these
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Speaker 1: two guys. After that, I think for me, it's talking
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Speaker 1: about the guys in the Chicago Green Bay game. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's the game with the second highest total on the slate.
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Speaker 1: I think things could potentially get weirder there. And I
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Speaker 1: like both those guys. After that, I do think someone
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Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow has a definite role on this slate
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Speaker 1: just because of his upside on any given week. Miami
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Speaker 1: isn't good. It hasn't worked out using pieces against Miami
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Speaker 1: a ton because their offense hasn't really been able to
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Speaker 1: fight back. But it's Cincy with presumably Chase and Higgins.
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Speaker 1: So I could get on board with Burrow here. After that,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're just making ownership cases. How
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Speaker 1: do you see it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, you got $ 5, 500 for Jacoby.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great spot. I want to come
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Speaker 1: back to something there.
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Speaker 2: Goff is, like you said, Goff has been good.
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Speaker 1: We get Goff in a dome.
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Speaker 2: We get another defense that's not very good. And in
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Speaker 2: my opinion– his collective weapons between Gibbs, Amon Ra, Jamo, Laporta,
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Speaker 2: outweigh basically McBride and Wilson. So I would love to
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Speaker 2: find ways to get the golf over Brissette. And what
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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, Matt, and I didn't
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Speaker 2: look too much into it. Like what if the Lions,
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Speaker 2: let's say get up 24 to nothing at halftime or
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Speaker 2: something crazy like that? Like, Who's to say that the
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Speaker 2: Cardinals wouldn't put in their backup quarterback, the rookie from Miami?
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Speaker 1: Like, is that even a possibility? I mean, I guess
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Speaker 1: if they get down, like, massively. But I wouldn't say 24-0.
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Speaker 1: And I don't project them to get down that big
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Speaker 1: because Detroit's defense is so bad. But, I mean, yeah, no.
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Speaker 1: That's not in my– That's not on your radar. I'm
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Speaker 1: not accounting for that at all. Is that possible in
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Speaker 1: any game? Sure. Especially with a team that's not good,
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, more likely there than for the Saints
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Speaker 1: because they're already starting a young guy. So I get
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Speaker 1: your point, but just not something I'm factoring in.
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Speaker 2: The next batch of quarterbacks I want to touch on
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Speaker 2: is that Packers game. Jordan Love, who I have some
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Speaker 2: interest in. Drake May, who I have some interest in.
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Speaker 2: To me, those two kind of lead the way and
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Speaker 2: you can see their projections. They're going to be I'll
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Speaker 2: call them, I'll put in quotation marks, popular. They're not
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Speaker 2: going to be anywhere near as popular as Goff and Brissette,
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Speaker 2: and maybe they're a cut below. But how do you
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Speaker 2: factor in, I'll say, this Tier 2 list of quarterbacks
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Speaker 2: as it pertains to May, Love, and then anybody else
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Speaker 2: you want to put in there?
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Speaker 1: I do think that my Tier 2 is Love and
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Speaker 1: then Badgett from that Chicago-Green Bay game. Badgett looked good
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Speaker 1: last week. You've got, you know, maybe– one of, if
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Speaker 1: not the best play caller in the NFL and Ben
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Speaker 1: Johnson calling plays for him in a game that I
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Speaker 1: think has paced that green Bay is at least competitive.
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Speaker 1: And if not win this game, Badgen could have had
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Speaker 1: a much bigger game last week. They ran in all
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Speaker 1: their touchdowns from the red zone. He was picking the
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Speaker 1: jets apart. And I wouldn't have been shocked if he
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Speaker 1: had three touchdowns last week ended with zero. He's still
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Speaker 1: dirt cheap. I think he's like the clear pivot off
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Speaker 1: of Brissette. He's even cheaper. And yeah, you get there certainly,
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Speaker 1: you know, if you play this slate out a hundred times,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, badging beats per set, like
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Speaker 1: at least 25 of them. I mean, I don't even
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Speaker 1: know the number, but I would start there. How do
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Speaker 1: you see it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I, I don't have, I definitely liked your
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Speaker 2: point and I certainly get it. $ 4, 700. That's dirt cheap.
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Speaker 2: You're going to pair them with two, I'd say cheap
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Speaker 2: receivers as well. I'd imagine at least one. But for me,
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Speaker 2: it's Drake may Drake may leads the way. Like I
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Speaker 2: think Drake may, um, I think Drake may is, is
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Speaker 2: could rival, you know, Brissette and golf.
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Speaker 1: He's he's, he is expensive.
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Speaker 2: So I get that, but I do like me some
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Speaker 2: Drake may today, Drake may skinnies, you know, maybe with war.
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Speaker 1: All over him last week too. So that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I like Drake may. I think, you know, I think
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Speaker 1: they probably turned the corner.
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Speaker 2: They're only three and a half point favorites too, which
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Speaker 2: I think is a little low, especially them coming across
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Speaker 2: and Kirk cousins being the quarterback, but I get it,
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Speaker 2: you know, uh, Gonzalez and, uh, and, um, what Davis
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Speaker 2: are out that both, both corners are out. So I
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Speaker 2: really liked Drake May today. I really liked Jordan Love today,
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Speaker 2: kind of on the other side of that, of that Bajan. Man,
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Speaker 2: Bajan is super cheap, but I like Jordan Love. I
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Speaker 2: like both of his receivers. We know where the ball's going.
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Speaker 2: We know it's going to Golden. We know it's going to,
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Speaker 2: we know it's going to Watson and we know it's
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Speaker 2: going to, I'm drawing a blank on the tight end.
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Speaker 1: Kraft, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I love Tucker Kraft today, but, So I like
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Speaker 2: Jordan Love today, like Drake May, and and, and really honestly,
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Speaker 2: like I'm, I'm cut, I'm cutting it off after that.
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Speaker 2: Like I, I don't see anybody down there. I mean,
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Speaker 2: talk me into something. Bo Nick, Sam Darnold, Brock Purdy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, do any of those guys kind of stick
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Speaker 2: out to you that could potentially, you know, break the slate.
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Speaker 1: Oh, the only guy down there that I have like
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Speaker 1: mild interest in. Cause I'm with you. Like, I just
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Speaker 1: don't really see the need to get, get that different here. I,
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Speaker 1: is C.J. Stroud, just because I could really see Houston
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Speaker 1: pounding Tennessee here. I don't feel great about it. They're 0-4, obviously.
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's 0-4. Houston's a good 0-4. I could see them
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Speaker 1: just pounding Tennessee, and Stroud's been good. I mean, when
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Speaker 1: he has Nico Collins, we saw that connection last week.
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Speaker 1: He won't get any ownership, and I don't love it. But, again,
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Speaker 1: I do think that basically everyone else are just making
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Speaker 1: ownership cases for. I guess the other guy, and just
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Speaker 1: talking this out, would be Malik Willis. Talked about Burrow
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Speaker 1: a little bit ago. He's the other side of that.
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Speaker 1: He's dirt cheap. I mean, 4,600, obviously no A-chan. If
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Speaker 1: he runs two in, then Miami's more competitive in this
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Speaker 1: game than the field thinks. I mean, he's, I think
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Speaker 1: he looks, I'd rather play pageant because I like that
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Speaker 1: game more, but as like a one-off play, I think
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Speaker 1: Willis looks good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't love it. They
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Speaker 1: don't pass it enough for me. I mean, I think, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, possibly. But, yeah, I'm with you, Bajent. You
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Speaker 1: taught me into Bajent, Bajent, whatever his name is.
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Speaker 2: He's pretty good. And like you said, I mean, I
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Speaker 2: had a lot of that Bears game last week. So
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Speaker 2: that makes sense that all those touchdowns went on the
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Speaker 2: ground to Menunga. If those go to Bajent, then, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's really popping off the page now.
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Speaker 1: Anything else? Anybody else that you want to touch on?
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Speaker 1: You're good to move on to running backs. I think
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Speaker 1: we can move on. Many more good running back plays,
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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, moving on to running backs.
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Speaker 2: And I saw the notes in the chat. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to come over there to it here in a second.
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Speaker 2: You see Dowdle is inactive. That's good for my Jalen
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Speaker 2: Warren teams. And then you also have Gentee is active. So, Matt,
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Speaker 2: the way I look at this, and I may be
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Speaker 2: playing a little bit different than most, you look at
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Speaker 2: Mike Washington, who, you know, I'm going to call him
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Speaker 2: a must-play at $ 4, 200 over on DraftKings, $ 4, 900. Like, to me, Like,
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Speaker 2: let's just start there. It's even with Gentian, you know,
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Speaker 2: he's beat up. Is Mike Washington still viable to you
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Speaker 2: at 4,200 bucks?
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Speaker 1: Are you saying with Gentian, there's just no way I
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Speaker 1: could get to him? I think he's definitely viable. I mean,
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Speaker 1: definitely viable. I'm a fan of his talent. Like he,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far with it, but
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Speaker 1: like Gentian is disappointing in my opinion. And I think
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Speaker 1: Washington is good and not going to be surprised at
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Speaker 1: all with Gentian's if he status today that he works
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Speaker 1: in more, the hard part of it is there's so
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Speaker 1: many good running back plays. Like you need a good
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Speaker 1: score from him. It doesn't matter that he's 4,200. You
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you need him to beat
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Speaker 1: Braylon Allen and Jalen Warren. You can only play three
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Speaker 1: running backs and there's some really good ones, Swift, Gibbs,
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Speaker 1: you know? So I think he's definitely in play, but
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Speaker 1: you know, I see new and saying now he's a
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Speaker 1: must fade. Like, I don't think he's going to be home.
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Speaker 1: you know, if he ends up being owned because he
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Speaker 1: got steamed this morning, because people thought Gentry would be out,
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Speaker 1: then I would say fade him. It's an interesting call.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it really ownership dependent. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, anything is possible to me.
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I liked what you said. They're going
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Speaker 1: to have to work.
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Speaker 2: Washington in more, but to your point, like, is that
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Speaker 2: more going from.
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Speaker 1: Five carries to eight carries, 10 carries.
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Speaker 2: And that's not going to beat the Warrens, the Swifts, the, Obviously,
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Speaker 2: the Gibbs, like, you got to put– how many points
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Speaker 2: does he have to put up, Matt, for.
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Speaker 1: You to feel comfortable? 18. At 40– 18? Is that
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Speaker 1: what you said? I mean, around there? Yeah. Yeah. Don't
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Speaker 1: you think so? Do you have a different number? I
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Speaker 1: mean– Yeah, no, no, no. I was going to say 15,
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Speaker 1: you know, to be competitive. Yeah. I wouldn't, like, be–
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't, like, think my lineups are dead if you
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Speaker 1: told me he had 15, but I also wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: rushing to play him. Yeah, I don't think so either.
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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, he could have, theoretically, he could have
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Speaker 2: 12 carries, average six yards of carry, and he's going
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Speaker 2: to get you 7.2 points if he obviously doesn't have
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Speaker 2: any catches or touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: Like, you don't need that.
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Speaker 2: You almost kind of need him to be that full workhorse,
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Speaker 2: you know, today, don't you? Just because of all the
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Speaker 2: other stuff.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man.
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Speaker 2: I mean, 150, I would say yes, but single-entry, three-entry
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Speaker 2: max– Even 20 entry, I'm probably not getting to any.
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Speaker 1: What about you? I agree with that. I agree with
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Speaker 1: all that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he can get
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Speaker 1: to 18.
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Speaker 2: If I did, I would play him. But 18 is
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Speaker 2: going to be tough with Jinty in there.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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Speaker 2: All right, so we spent enough time on him. Now
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Speaker 2: let's spend some time on the big boys. Obviously got
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Speaker 2: Jameer Gibbs, $ 9, 800, 10K over on FanDuel. How are you
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Speaker 2: playing Gibbs, Matt? He's in a great spot. He's their
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Speaker 2: best player, obviously. Lions have to win this game. This
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Speaker 2: is a game that they've got to win to keep
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Speaker 2: their season going. I know it's October, and now Michaels
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Speaker 2: is going to tell you there's no must-win games in October,
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Speaker 2: but how are you handling Gibbs today?
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Speaker 1: It's funny. With Washington not really in play anymore, it's
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Speaker 1: hurtful to Gibbs because that $ 4, 200 price tag helped with Gibbs,
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Speaker 1: but also made it really hard because you can only
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Speaker 1: play three running backs. So now you take Washington out.
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Speaker 1: That's another spot where you can conceivably play Gibbs. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Gibbs to me coming off his worst week, maybe of
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Speaker 1: the year, the worst week of the year so far
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Speaker 1: for him, 17 DK points. I think he bounces back
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Speaker 1: in a big way. I mean, I want Gibbs here.
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Speaker 1: There's good running back plays on the slate. So I
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Speaker 1: don't think you have to play him. But even with
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Speaker 1: all the good running back plays, I think he's the best.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just the best. He's the top commodity
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Speaker 1: in fantasy right now. You're paying for it, but there's
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Speaker 1: enough value on this slate to get there. I like
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Speaker 1: Gibbs a lot. I don't think he's like you have
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Speaker 1: to play him, but I also think he's a definite
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Speaker 1: fate at your own risk in all formats.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fate at your own risk for sure. Let's move
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Speaker 2: on to some of the other ones that are going
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Speaker 2: to be popular. DeAndre Swift. I really like DeAndre Swift today.
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Speaker 2: No Kyle Menunga. If he can hold on to the football,
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Speaker 2: he's going to get 20-plus carries.
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Speaker 1: In this game.
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Speaker 2: Roshon Johnson's going to mix in as well, but Swift
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Speaker 2: is clearly the lead back. And if you know anything
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Speaker 2: about Ben Johnson, he wants to pound that ball into
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Speaker 2: the belly of his running back. So give me some
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Speaker 2: Swift 6,200, 6,500 on FanDuel.
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Speaker 1: Great price.
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Speaker 2: Braylon Allen, me and you were all over Braylon Allen
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Speaker 2: last week. And Matt, to me, that was just like a,
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Speaker 2: like a, you know, happenstance of the game. They ran,
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Speaker 2: I think like 32 something plays, but talk to me
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Speaker 2: a little bit about Braylon Allen.
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Speaker 1: The Bears had more first downs than the Jets had
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Speaker 1: plays run last week. So that was just, like you said,
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Speaker 1: a victim of circumstance. I'm right back to Braylon Allen here.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he was the one piece that actually didn't
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Speaker 1: look bad last week. I think this is a big
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Speaker 1: trap game for the Browns. I hope the Browns win
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Speaker 1: this game. But I think the Jets kind of reset
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Speaker 1: everything after that awful performance last week. And Braylon Allen's
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Speaker 1: the guy for them. So I'm with you. I'm right
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Speaker 1: back in on Allen. No Mike Washington makes me feel
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Speaker 1: much better about him.
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Speaker 2: No Mason Graham, no Mike Hall for the Browns either.
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Speaker 2: So two, I would say, that are better defensive linemen
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Speaker 2: are out.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. Mason Graham's having a monster start to
17:30
Speaker 1: the year. Mike Hall was a second-round pick two years ago. Yeah,
17:33
Speaker 1: it's massive. So I'm with you. Really good spot for
17:36
Speaker 1: Braylon Allen.
17:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, Braylon Allen looks good. Some other ones, Aaron Jones
17:40
Speaker 2: is going to get some love. if anyone watched that
17:43
Speaker 2: game on Monday night, just ground and pound.
17:45
Speaker 1: And there was a report that came out like a
17:47
Speaker 1: couple minutes ago or while we started the show that
17:50
Speaker 1: there's a sickness going through the Saints locker room. So
17:53
Speaker 1: maybe that makes the Vikings a little more appealing. Yeah.
17:57
Speaker 2: So talk to me a little bit about Aaron Jones,
17:59
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren. I love Jalen Warren today. $ 6, 700 on both sides,
18:03
Speaker 2: catch passes, catch dump offs. If someone could update us
18:07
Speaker 2: on the weather in Pittsburgh, that'd be great. but J
18:11
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren and Aaron Jones. Talk to me about those
18:13
Speaker 2: two 65 and 6,700 for Warren.
18:15
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Warren a lot here. I like him
18:18
Speaker 1: more than Jones. Jones's price tag is just a little
18:21
Speaker 1: bit too high for me. I mean, he's getting all
18:23
Speaker 1: the work, but that offense just is uninspiring. I think
18:26
Speaker 1: the saints play a inspired game here after getting embarrassed.
18:30
Speaker 1: So I don't love the Minnesota offense here. Warren, even
18:34
Speaker 1: against the Browns, you saw it. I mean, he is
18:36
Speaker 1: just electric. And when he gets all the work in
18:38
Speaker 1: that backfield, like, There's no reason he should be splitting
18:41
Speaker 1: work with Rico Dowdle, but he is Dowdle's out. It's
18:45
Speaker 1: the Warren show. He, I think there's like a few
18:50
Speaker 1: standout running backs on the slate and he's in that group. Oh, wow.
18:55
Speaker 1: Would you want to play Warren and Roger stacks? I
19:00
Speaker 1: don't really want to play Roger stacks. So I don't
19:04
Speaker 1: know how to answer that question. If I were playing
19:05
Speaker 1: Roger stacks, yes. Yeah.
19:09
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah.
19:10
Speaker 1: Um, Tambo talked about it on leverage line yesterday a
19:12
Speaker 1: little bit.
19:12
Speaker 2: I mean, he Rogers has been, I'll call it better
19:15
Speaker 2: this year just cause he's firing the ball all over
19:17
Speaker 2: the place, close to 300 yards and multiple games. Um,
19:21
Speaker 2: I I'm not on Rogers tax either because of, uh,
19:25
Speaker 2: the weather and because he's Aaron Rogers at this point
19:27
Speaker 2: in his career, but I love me some Jalen Warren today. Um,
19:31
Speaker 2: Kind of the next tier, Ash and Jenty I'm not
19:34
Speaker 2: getting to. I've seen a lot of Quentin Junkins. I
19:36
Speaker 2: shouldn't say a lot. People talking about Quentin Junkins. I'm sorry,
19:40
Speaker 2: Quint Sean Junkins.
19:40
Speaker 1: I'm off him. And then I want to talk a
19:43
Speaker 1: little bit about Emmanuel Wilson.
19:45
Speaker 2: $ 5, 300.
19:47
Speaker 1: Still their lead dog.
19:48
Speaker 2: I'm not going to call it a great matchup. I
19:50
Speaker 2: actually like this 49ers defense a little bit today. But
19:52
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson had a really good catch and run last week,
19:55
Speaker 2: got into the end zone. I mentioned that earlier on
19:58
Speaker 2: the show, George Helani is questionable. So talk to me
20:01
Speaker 2: a little bit about $ 5, 300 Emmanuel Wilson.
20:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he belongs in that group also. Was
20:09
Speaker 1: really good last week. I'm worried a little bit about
20:11
Speaker 1: chasing that and I don't love the spot, but man,
20:14
Speaker 1: he's cheap and I don't think he gets as much
20:16
Speaker 1: love as some of the other guys we're talking about.
20:18
Speaker 1: So I don't like him quite as much, but I
20:21
Speaker 1: do think you get an ownership discount and I'm intrigued.
20:25
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he definitely belongs in that group
20:28
Speaker 1: with like Warren and Allen and all the guys we've
20:32
Speaker 1: talked about that look like good plays. I mean, running
20:34
Speaker 1: back is still, even without Mike Washington, like six deep
20:36
Speaker 1: of guys that look really good that on a lot
20:39
Speaker 1: of slates would be the top overall play. Yeah.
20:43
Speaker 2: Not good stuff there. Two, two other running backs that
20:45
Speaker 2: I want to touch on. And then I'll ask you
20:47
Speaker 2: if there's any, but man, Matt, no one. And I mean,
20:51
Speaker 2: no one. And rightfully so is playing $ 8, 200 Christian McCaffrey today.
20:55
Speaker 2: I think Christian McCaffrey is in a great spot, GPP
20:58
Speaker 2: tournament-type spot, great pivot off of Gibbs if you're down behind.
21:01
Speaker 2: But I love Christian McCaffrey today. I know it's a
21:04
Speaker 2: brutal matchup. I know what people are saying about what's
21:08
Speaker 2: happened in the last three games, this, that, and the other.
21:10
Speaker 2: But he's wide receiver one, wide receiver two, close up
21:14
Speaker 2: there with Evans and Kittle. So I think he catches
21:17
Speaker 2: a bunch of passes today. I think he gets it
21:19
Speaker 2: on the ground. I think it's a good old-fashioned NFC
21:22
Speaker 2: West showdown. I think Kalen Black gets about 10 to
21:25
Speaker 2: 15 snaps. I think it's the CMC show. So I
21:28
Speaker 2: love CMC and GPPs. And the other one that I
21:31
Speaker 2: really like in GPPs, Matt, it's gross. So be ready
21:34
Speaker 2: for it. He's also $ 5, 300, 6,100 over on FanDuel. Your boy,
21:40
Speaker 2: former Mr. Doke Walk Award winner, Ollie Gordon II. And
21:44
Speaker 2: let me tell you why I like Ollie. Ollie basically
21:48
Speaker 2: took over that backfield last week. Played every snap but two.
21:51
Speaker 2: There wasn't many. Every snap but two. Had nine of
21:54
Speaker 2: 11 running back snaps. I think Ollie Gordon today, A,
21:58
Speaker 2: goes over 50 yards rushing and potentially, and this is
22:01
Speaker 2: like a 150 type play, Matt, could get 102 and
22:06
Speaker 2: be somewhere on the winner. Any interest in McCaffrey and
22:09
Speaker 2: or Gordon or any other running backs you want to
22:10
Speaker 2: touch on?
22:12
Speaker 1: I like the McCaffrey call a lot. It's just hard
22:14
Speaker 1: to get there, man. Cause you're eating a running back
22:16
Speaker 1: spot and salary. And like, you're taking it away from
22:19
Speaker 1: Gibbs or whoever to that point, people aren't going to
22:22
Speaker 1: want to do that. So yeah, I love it in tournaments. Ali.
22:25
Speaker 1: Oh man. I feel like I'm higher than most on
22:29
Speaker 1: Ali in general, but it's just, again, tough for me
22:31
Speaker 1: to get there this week, but your points remain fair.
22:35
Speaker 1: And then one 50 settings. Yeah. I'm about it. Like
22:37
Speaker 1: if I'm playing one lineup, I don't know how in
22:40
Speaker 1: the world I can click that name. Right. Some of
22:42
Speaker 1: the guys we've talked about. And I'm sure you feel
22:45
Speaker 1: the same way, but like getting overexposed to him in big,
22:48
Speaker 1: large field tournaments makes sense, man. You talked about he's
22:51
Speaker 1: getting almost all the work. Jalen Wright is either banged
22:54
Speaker 1: up or out. And he's banged up too. Yep. That's
22:56
Speaker 1: a factor. Yeah. So I'm with you. Like, I love
22:59
Speaker 1: the call 150 settings just because, you know, we talk about,
23:03
Speaker 1: and we, me and you feel like, I think we're
23:06
Speaker 1: on the same page here. We're like, Clearly, the guys
23:08
Speaker 1: in the Detroit game are the best plays on paper,
23:11
Speaker 1: and we don't dispute that. But we play an ownership game,
23:14
Speaker 1: so a lot of these other guys look okay just
23:17
Speaker 1: for getting different purposes. Yeah.
23:22
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about two guys running back in
23:24
Speaker 2: that other game that we haven't even mentioned. I haven't
23:26
Speaker 2: heard anybody in the industry really mention them either. There's
23:28
Speaker 2: Chase Brown. Any love for Chase Brown? With the two
23:31
Speaker 2: wide receivers back, I think he'll obviously be super low on, but.
23:34
Speaker 1: Any love for Chase Brown, 6,900? Yeah, I like him.
23:37
Speaker 1: I do feel like I've seen him getting a lot
23:40
Speaker 1: of steam and maybe that was when the receiver projected out,
23:43
Speaker 1: caught 10 balls last week. Their running game has been non-existent.
23:48
Speaker 1: So part of me is like, I think they try
23:49
Speaker 1: to make a concerted effort to get that going today.
23:53
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, it's awful and they got
23:55
Speaker 1: elite wide receivers and an elite quarterback. So I'm a
23:58
Speaker 1: little bit torn on Chase Brown. I don't want to
23:59
Speaker 1: go out of my way to get him, but I
24:01
Speaker 1: don't think he's a bad play.
24:03
Speaker 2: And then the last one I want to touch on
24:05
Speaker 2: real quick, Jeremiah Love Heard everybody last week.
24:08
Speaker 1: He's only $ 6, 100. He's another guy in that team, in that,
24:11
Speaker 1: in that game.
24:11
Speaker 2: No one's going to play super way to get different
24:14
Speaker 2: off of Wilson, off of McBride, somebody like that.
24:16
Speaker 1: What about my boy, Jeremiah love?
24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:20
Speaker 1: I thought about him a bunch. Interesting. I mean, the
24:24
Speaker 1: tournament side of me loves that call. The ball knower
24:28
Speaker 1: side of me is like, man, he's getting taken off
24:33
Speaker 1: the field for Algier. He's not cheap. And there's, 10
24:37
Speaker 1: running back plays I like more than him. So I
24:39
Speaker 1: get both sides of it. You know what I mean? Yep.
24:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was 21-2 in terms
24:45
Speaker 2: of carries, I think, two weeks ago against the Chargers
24:48
Speaker 2: or wherever they played two, three weeks ago.
24:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was something like that, yeah, I would
24:52
Speaker 1: be all over him.
24:53
Speaker 2: But, I mean, after what happened last week, it's tough
24:56
Speaker 2: to go back to him.
24:57
Speaker 1: Any other running backs you want to touch on before
24:58
Speaker 1: we move to wide receiver? Yeah, let's move to wide out.
25:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move to another position that I'm looking forward
25:05
Speaker 2: to talking about. JSN, Amon Ra, Michael Wilson going to
25:08
Speaker 2: soak up a lot of the ownership. Like you said earlier,
25:11
Speaker 2: with no Washington, makes it a lot tougher to jam
25:14
Speaker 2: in Gibbs and JSN.
25:16
Speaker 1: So interested to hear how you're going to handle that,
25:18
Speaker 1: if that's even viable. Talk to me.
25:20
Speaker 2: I'm going to call them because they're the highest down.
25:22
Speaker 2: Talk to me about JSN, Amon Ra, and Michael Wilson.
25:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Wilson– And Amon Ra, I mean, just insert
25:32
Speaker 1: pieces from that game here, right? Like Michael Wilson is
25:35
Speaker 1: clearly Brissette's number one wide out target, you know, with McBride.
25:38
Speaker 1: No Marvin Harrison. He looks elite. He's not even priced
25:41
Speaker 1: like a true number, like wide out one. Amon Ra,
25:45
Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you're not playing Gibbs, I think
25:47
Speaker 1: playing them both together might be a little bit contrarian
25:49
Speaker 1: just because it's eating up so much salary, especially if
25:54
Speaker 1: you play them with Goff. So that's intriguing. JSN, I mean,
26:02
Speaker 1: I love Jamar Chase, but he's the best line out
26:04
Speaker 1: in football and he's coming off his worst game of
26:05
Speaker 1: the year. So kind of like Gibbs, you don't expect
26:08
Speaker 1: that to continue big time game against Sam Fran here
26:12
Speaker 1: in any like non just full Detroit, Arizona game stack builds.
26:16
Speaker 1: I think JSN is one of the best one-offs on
26:17
Speaker 1: the slate. And then that was the three you asked
26:21
Speaker 1: me about. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
26:23
Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to come with a lot of ownership,
26:25
Speaker 2: obviously Wilson 6,200 bucks. So he's not even in like
26:27
Speaker 2: in the same tier as him. in terms of price. But,
26:30
Speaker 2: you know, he's going to get a lot of targets.
26:32
Speaker 2: We've seen that time and time again. They deactivated Harrison
26:37
Speaker 2: for this one. So I think his ownership shoots up
26:40
Speaker 2: at that price. You can fit a lot of other
26:42
Speaker 2: pieces in. Let's talk about some of the other, I'll
26:44
Speaker 2: call them higher-priced receivers that not a lot of people
26:46
Speaker 2: are playing. Chris Alave, all he does is just have
26:49
Speaker 2: 100-yard performances. Had another one the other night. He's looking
26:53
Speaker 2: very nice, but in a dome against his Vikings team.
26:55
Speaker 2: Nico Collins, you had a little interest in Stroud. And
26:59
Speaker 2: then Justin Jefferson coming back to the boot. He is playing,
27:02
Speaker 2: and out of his boot, $.
27:04
Speaker 1: 7, 300.
27:04
Speaker 2: And I'll throw in Jamar Chase because I know you
27:06
Speaker 2: like him. Are you playing any of these, I'll call them,
27:08
Speaker 2: upper echelon wide receivers on this slate?
27:12
Speaker 1: Man, I love Jamar Chase here. It's kind of like
27:14
Speaker 1: all the cases you made for McCaffrey. I feel the
27:17
Speaker 1: same about Chase for. I mean, it's tough to get there, right?
27:21
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say I'm going to be
27:22
Speaker 1: playing a ton of him, but I love the idea
27:25
Speaker 1: of getting to him because people just aren't going to
27:27
Speaker 1: do it. He was expected out for a lot of
27:29
Speaker 1: the week. It's coming off that concussion. He's same price
27:33
Speaker 1: basically as, you know, as I'm on raw. He's not
27:36
Speaker 1: in that game. Miami's no one wants to play Miami pieces.
27:39
Speaker 1: I just feel like exactly what you said about Caffrey.
27:43
Speaker 1: I feel about chase, you know, and I do think
27:46
Speaker 1: there are very, very similar type plays.
27:48
Speaker 2: And what I like about chase too, it wasn't a
27:50
Speaker 2: soft tissue thing. You know, it was a, it was
27:52
Speaker 2: a concussion and he's obviously right.
27:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's back. Like, he's fine. He was out, and
27:57
Speaker 1: you saw it, like, when he got hit. I don't
27:58
Speaker 1: know if you saw the hit. Yeah, I saw it, yeah. Yeah, so, like,
28:01
Speaker 1: to your point, like, he's fine. Doesn't mean he won't
28:03
Speaker 1: get hurt again, but he's fine from that. Yeah, yep.
28:06
Speaker 2: He's fine from that. Yeah, I mean, that's a great call.
28:08
Speaker 2: I mean, you're– you know, you did it against the
28:10
Speaker 2: Texans too, right? I think you had one or two
28:11
Speaker 2: catches the week before. No one was on chase. Then
28:14
Speaker 2: all he did was go out and score two touchdowns,
28:16
Speaker 2: I think, 100 yards and had 30-some-odd draft Kings points.
28:19
Speaker 2: What about Justin Jefferson coming home? He's been banged up
28:22
Speaker 2: all week. They're having diarrhea in the Saints locker room.
28:25
Speaker 2: Any love for Justin Jefferson at $ 7, 300? That coming home
28:29
Speaker 2: always gets me a little bit. But other than that,
28:31
Speaker 2: I just don't love the Vikings here. Like, Kyler has
28:34
Speaker 2: been so unimpressive. I like the Saints to just– I.
28:38
Speaker 1: Don't think they're particularly good, but whenever teams come off
28:42
Speaker 1: like embarrassing performances, like the Jets or the Saints are
28:45
Speaker 1: on Monday night, and I don't think they're like bad teams.
28:48
Speaker 1: I expect them to, you know– show a much better effort.
28:52
Speaker 1: And that's what I expect from the Saints. It doesn't
28:54
Speaker 1: mean that no one from Minnesota could get there, but
28:56
Speaker 1: there's not an offense I'm targeting. Yeah.
29:00
Speaker 2: And then, and then let's go to the next tier,
29:02
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, 6,600. I love Garrett Wilson today, but I
29:07
Speaker 2: hate that. It's going to rain all day there. So
29:09
Speaker 2: talk to me about Garrett Wilson.
29:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. No, sorry. I want to talk about
29:14
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson because I want to hear why you like
29:16
Speaker 1: him so much other than he's a stud and I,
29:19
Speaker 1: you know, Gino's going to lock in on him. That said, like,
29:22
Speaker 1: Just real quick, like Denzel Ward, whenever he, I don't
29:26
Speaker 1: want anyone that Denzel Ward is on. To that point also, though,
29:31
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward doesn't shadow 100%. So I'm a little torn
29:34
Speaker 1: on Garrett Wilson is my overall point.
29:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Garrett Wilson for A, not that of
29:39
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell. means much, but Adonai Mitchell's out, so I
29:41
Speaker 2: think he'll get the targets. He's their clear-cut number one.
29:45
Speaker 2: You know, kind of like Braylon Allen, like when the
29:47
Speaker 2: chips are down and they're running 50-60 plays, like he's
29:50
Speaker 2: going to get his 8-12 targets in a normal game.
29:54
Speaker 2: I understand Denzel Ward is good, but 17 or whatever,
29:58
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson's also really good.
29:59
Speaker 1: Too, so.
30:01
Speaker 2: And he's at home and like, you know, and I don't,
30:05
Speaker 2: I didn't know about that shadow non-shadow, but yeah, I mean,
30:07
Speaker 2: if he doesn't go to his side half the time,
30:09
Speaker 2: then whoever they have over there, but I'm kind of lower.
30:13
Speaker 1: On Wilson now because it's supposed to be rainy so much.
30:16
Speaker 1: And I'm not, I don't want to waste a, to.
30:18
Speaker 2: Me, there's a lot of other good receivers around his
30:20
Speaker 2: price tag as well. That, that, that would be why
30:25
Speaker 2: I would not go to Wilson because of the weather, but,
30:27
Speaker 2: I do like him though.
30:28
Speaker 1: Cause we talked about the Jets offense last week. They
30:31
Speaker 1: just weren't on the field. Like they're going to be
30:32
Speaker 1: on the field a lot more this week. So to
30:35
Speaker 1: that alone, I'm with you.
30:38
Speaker 2: Um, talk to me a little bit about JMO. I mean,
30:41
Speaker 2: let me, let me go first and then I'll pass
30:42
Speaker 2: it over to you. I love JMO this week. Ran
30:44
Speaker 2: a hundred percent of the routes, Matt, last week, got
30:46
Speaker 2: a hundred yards as well. First game of the season.
30:48
Speaker 2: He's a home run waiting to happen in the GPPs.
30:51
Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal pivot in my opinion, off of almond Ron,
30:54
Speaker 2: really off, off, off, uh.
30:56
Speaker 1: Off of Gibbs.
30:57
Speaker 2: Like he's the type, if he hits a 75 yard
30:59
Speaker 2: home run, that's obviously taking Gibbs off. And that's the
31:02
Speaker 2: way you, you know, Gibbs doesn't have his ceiling type
31:05
Speaker 2: game than JMO does. I think JMO and GPPs is
31:08
Speaker 2: a phenomenal play. You got any love for JMO today?
31:13
Speaker 1: I do. My only counter to what you just said
31:15
Speaker 1: would be like, man, you get one play for 75 yards. Like,
31:19
Speaker 1: does that even eat into Gibbs's ceiling? It just takes
31:21
Speaker 1: them off for that one drive, but it just means
31:23
Speaker 1: the whole game, like, If you're getting plays like that,
31:26
Speaker 1: I get your point. Don't get me wrong. For me,
31:28
Speaker 1: it's just like, how many players from this game can
31:30
Speaker 1: you play? I don't know if there's an answer to that.
31:32
Speaker 1: Like as many as six. Yeah. Maybe as many as
31:36
Speaker 1: you can fit. Yeah. I love Jamo here. I don't
31:41
Speaker 1: think you're going to get him like low owned, but
31:42
Speaker 1: he'll be lower owned than other pieces in this game.
31:44
Speaker 1: And that's all we're talking about. So I'm with you.
31:46
Speaker 1: I like him as a lowest owned piece of this
31:50
Speaker 1: game when all the expensive pieces are going to get loved.
31:54
Speaker 2: What do you think you, I'm just looking at our
31:56
Speaker 2: ownership real quick. I mean, he'll be what sub 15, right?
32:02
Speaker 2: Where all those other dudes will be 30 plus.
32:06
Speaker 1: I can't see it. Him being sub 15. Like I
32:08
Speaker 1: can't see the other guys being double him, but maybe
32:11
Speaker 1: he's 20 and those guys are 30 plus. Maybe I'm wrong.
32:14
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. He does seem like a pretty
32:18
Speaker 1: obvious play to me. Like, But, yeah, Sims aren't really
32:22
Speaker 1: pushing him. So I'm with you. Maybe he's lower on
32:24
Speaker 1: than I'm expecting.
32:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Simming horribly. I mean, Wilson's definitely going to
32:30
Speaker 2: be double. Amin Ra may not be double, but he'll
32:32
Speaker 2: be up there. I think J-Mo's like a supreme GPP
32:36
Speaker 2: play today. Yeah, I love me Jamison Williams today. I'm
32:41
Speaker 2: just going to give you a whole slew of receivers, Matt,
32:43
Speaker 2: and then you tell me if you have any interest.
32:44
Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors, Christian Watson, Jalen Waddell with homeboy taking over
32:49
Speaker 2: the play call-in.
32:50
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf in the weather, and then Matthew Golden. Yeah,
32:55
Speaker 1: I love Golden here. We talked about that spot. DK
33:00
Speaker 1: Metcalf is interesting because I like Roman Wilson a lot,
33:03
Speaker 1: but I think the field does too. So Metcalf is
33:05
Speaker 1: like an intriguing pivot off of that. And then who
33:07
Speaker 1: is the third guy? Golden. I talked about Golden. I
33:13
Speaker 1: like him. I'm always eyeing Golden. Golden, Metcalf, Waddle, and Watson.
33:19
Speaker 1: Waddle is not someone I've thought about a lot. Not
33:22
Speaker 1: going to lie this week. Not that I think he's
33:23
Speaker 1: a bad play. There's just only so many guys you
33:25
Speaker 1: can get to. And with the Detroit and Arizona guys
33:30
Speaker 1: standing out, and then also guys like Trey Harris really
33:32
Speaker 1: standing out, who we haven't even talked about, just hard
33:35
Speaker 1: to get on everyone. But I see no reason why
33:39
Speaker 1: Waddle's a bad play. I don't love that game, but
33:41
Speaker 1: I don't hate it either. Do you have a strong
33:43
Speaker 1: take there? On the Chargers game? Yeah, or on any
33:48
Speaker 1: of those backs. Any of those wideouts, excuse me.
33:52
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I love Jalen Waddell today. I love
33:55
Speaker 2: Jalen Waddell. I love Cortland Sutton. He's dirt cheap on
33:59
Speaker 2: both sites. I think, you know, I think with Sean
34:03
Speaker 2: Payton taking over the play calling, I mean, we saw
34:06
Speaker 2: what he's done in the past, and we saw what
34:08
Speaker 2: he's done with these guys last year. I know he
34:11
Speaker 2: didn't have Waddell last year, but he had Sutton. So
34:13
Speaker 2: I think he's going to find ways to get Jalen Waddell.
34:15
Speaker 2: He gave up a whole lot to get Jalen Waddell.
34:18
Speaker 2: Got to find some usage for him. His price came
34:20
Speaker 2: down on both sites, or it came down on DraftKings.
34:22
Speaker 2: Stayed the same on Fando. I love Jalen Waddell today.
34:24
Speaker 2: I actually don't like Trey Harris.
34:27
Speaker 1: I mean, I totally get it.
34:28
Speaker 2: Like the price, no receivers, but man, that offensive line
34:33
Speaker 2: is just, poor Justin Herbert. He may not survive this
34:36
Speaker 2: game today. I totally get Trey Harris based on the
34:39
Speaker 2: price and all that. Like I said, but he's a
34:42
Speaker 2: tough click and kind of like that Washington guy we
34:45
Speaker 2: talked about earlier.
34:45
Speaker 1: Like I think Trey Harris has to get you 15
34:47
Speaker 1: plus and I don't know. He's gotten 50 plus in
34:50
Speaker 1: three games yards. It's tough. It's tough. I disagree. I
34:55
Speaker 1: disagree that you need the same from him as you
34:56
Speaker 1: would Mike Washington. Okay. Tell me why. Just because of
34:59
Speaker 1: the position scarcity, right? Like with Washington, you can only
35:03
Speaker 1: play three running backs total with Harris and with the
35:06
Speaker 1: running backs we've talked about. I think that Washington needs,
35:10
Speaker 1: you know, it's all dependent on what the other guys do.
35:13
Speaker 2: Right.
35:14
Speaker 1: So if Allen and them didn't do well, then you
35:16
Speaker 1: wouldn't need as much from Washington, but presuming those other
35:18
Speaker 1: guys did well, I think you need Washington to match it.
35:21
Speaker 1: Harris is strictly a price play where I do think
35:23
Speaker 1: like the 15, depending on your roster construction could work out. Like, again,
35:28
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that much of a different Delta,
35:31
Speaker 1: but I do think that a couple less points from
35:33
Speaker 1: Harris is fine. Whereas from Washington, you just need more.
35:38
Speaker 1: Got it.
35:38
Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about someone asked me
35:40
Speaker 2: this morning in our discord, about Deami Brown.
35:44
Speaker 1: Talk to me.
35:45
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't play Deami Brown with your money,
35:47
Speaker 2: but any love.
35:49
Speaker 1: For any of these Washington receivers?
35:51
Speaker 2: Can you take a dart throw on Deami Brown or
35:54
Speaker 2: Traylon Burdick that basically stoned men? You got any interest
35:57
Speaker 2: in any of these guys for Washington?
36:00
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I mean, I'm not. Yeah. Yeah, I
36:04
Speaker 1: don't either.
36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're tough clicks. It's bad weather. Quarterback coming back.
36:11
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of Antonio Williams love this week. But, yeah,
36:14
Speaker 2: it's not for me. Any other receivers that we haven't
36:19
Speaker 2: hit on that you want to– Josh Downs, Mike Evans.
36:22
Speaker 2: What about our Carnell Tate call last week? Carnell Tate
36:25
Speaker 2: cut up last week. Great call by us. But anybody
36:28
Speaker 2: else down here that we haven't touched on that you
36:30
Speaker 2: want to talk about?
36:33
Speaker 1: Only other guy, and I know I've mentioned him a
36:34
Speaker 1: couple times in our past shows, but the big play
36:37
Speaker 1: is coming with him. They just keep trying to get
36:38
Speaker 1: him the ball. The one piece of the Browns offense
36:41
Speaker 1: I like isn't Boston. It's Concepcion. I feel it. He's
36:45
Speaker 1: like the one real low-owned, cheap guy that I like
36:48
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he's the same price as Harris.
36:50
Speaker 1: So you talk about making a build with the Detroit-Arizona
36:54
Speaker 1: game and then with Harris and then subbing Concepcion, that's
36:58
Speaker 1: all you need to do. Cause Harris is going to
37:00
Speaker 1: be really popular and Concepcion is well, not.
37:05
Speaker 2: And Concepcion, I could see him too, having like, you know,
37:07
Speaker 2: 10 catches for 80 yards.
37:09
Speaker 1: Right. And it just, just pops off. Exactly. Even if
37:11
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the big play, like they are getting
37:13
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. So, and to your point,
37:16
Speaker 1: bad weather might not be a bad thing for him
37:18
Speaker 1: because they might not be able to run and they
37:22
Speaker 1: get him the ball in short, in the short passing game.
37:26
Speaker 1: I'm going to push back a little bit on, uh,
37:29
Speaker 1: on Roman Wilson.
37:30
Speaker 2: Um, I think that's a, I'm assuming you like him
37:33
Speaker 2: because of price and no Pittman would be my guess.
37:36
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's just the slot wide out. McCarthy's offense
37:39
Speaker 1: has been really good.
37:40
Speaker 2: So it's all, it's just, my problem with him is like,
37:43
Speaker 2: he was cutting up against the Browns and like, he
37:45
Speaker 2: just doesn't play.
37:46
Speaker 1: Like, why did they take him out of the game? He,
37:48
Speaker 1: he only played like 50% of.
37:51
Speaker 2: The snaps ran like 39% of the routes.
37:53
Speaker 1: Like that would be why I wouldn't get to him.
37:56
Speaker 1: I understand he's 3,700, but man, like, I don't know.
38:00
Speaker 2: I don't like Roman Wilson, but I guess you do.
38:03
Speaker 2: I like Kendrick Bourne better than Roman Wilson. How do
38:05
Speaker 2: you have Kendrick Bourne versus Roman Wilson?
38:09
Speaker 1: I think they're similar. I like Roman Wilson slightly more,
38:11
Speaker 1: but I don't think you're crazy at all. And, you know,
38:14
Speaker 1: that would be an ownership one for me. If you
38:16
Speaker 1: told me one was lower owned, definitely going to be
38:18
Speaker 1: lower owned than the other. Give me the one that's
38:20
Speaker 1: lower owned. Any of these Miami wideouts? Malik Washington, I think,
38:25
Speaker 1: has gotten some– Why not Malik Washington? I mean, I
38:28
Speaker 1: think I like Miami a little bit more than you
38:30
Speaker 1: do anyways. And considering that, why not Malik Washington? Like
38:33
Speaker 1: he's clearly their number one option. He's been pretty good. And,
38:38
Speaker 1: you know, if he scores, he could have a chance
38:41
Speaker 1: to be really good. And that's all it is, right?
38:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, just, man, that's threading a tight needle at 46.
38:48
Speaker 2: I'd rather play Luther Bird than him at 300 more. But, yeah,
38:52
Speaker 2: Devon Bailey, man, he had a heck of a catch
38:54
Speaker 2: the other night. I'm not playing him today, but that
38:56
Speaker 2: was a really good catch that he had.
38:58
Speaker 1: Anybody else? Man, this Eagles team just refuses to lose.
39:02
Speaker 1: Anybody else that we didn't touch on that you want
39:04
Speaker 1: to talk about? I don't think so. Yeah, I think
39:08
Speaker 1: we pretty much got everyone. Yeah, pretty much there. Yeah, J-Mo.
39:12
Speaker 2: J-Mo's my GPP special today. I really like some J-Mo
39:15
Speaker 2: in this contest. All right, move on to tight end.
39:20
Speaker 2: where it's going to be the Trey McBride show, he's
39:21
Speaker 2: going to be super popular, you see that there, you
39:23
Speaker 2: got him at 31% ownership, then really it's everybody else
39:27
Speaker 2: after that. The other tight end in that game, Sam Laporta,
39:29
Speaker 2: is going to come in number two. But I mean,
39:31
Speaker 2: talk to me about Trey. Talk to me about Sam.
39:33
Speaker 2: But talk to me about any of these other tight
39:35
Speaker 2: ends that maybe could help us win the Millie today.
39:39
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it starts with McBride, right? Like he's
39:41
Speaker 1: the top guy. Him and Wilson are the two guys
39:46
Speaker 1: you want from that Arizona offense. So condensed ownership will
39:49
Speaker 1: be there. know that after him, I think Bowers is
39:53
Speaker 1: the clear guy. I mean, Bowers is going to be
39:56
Speaker 1: lower owned because of McBride and is still too cheap.
39:59
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's one of the top five biggest
40:02
Speaker 1: mismatches in football right now. I think playing them both
40:05
Speaker 1: together is intriguing, but if you're not playing McBride, I
40:07
Speaker 1: think Bowers looks good. And then after that, it's kind
40:10
Speaker 1: of guys I like from stacks. The Sims are pushing
40:12
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely a little bit. I don't hate it, but
40:14
Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, no, don't do that, please. Yeah, I'm not.
40:17
Speaker 1: Craig Dulcich, I think I'll like more than you because
40:19
Speaker 1: I don't hate my family. And Dulcich for the Dolphins.
40:22
Speaker 1: And as you know, tight ends kill the Bengals. So,
40:26
Speaker 1: I mean.
40:27
Speaker 2: Britain Strange, like 9 for 90 last week.
40:29
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And Dulcich, not going to be
40:32
Speaker 1: owned cheap. Don't do it. Oh, man. Even after that,
40:37
Speaker 1: facing the Bengals, I thought I could get you on board. No,
40:40
Speaker 1: not even with his hair flowing. I love his hair.
40:43
Speaker 1: Really jealous of his hair. No, man, they just don't
40:46
Speaker 1: pass it.
40:47
Speaker 2: They're just going to turn around and put it in
40:48
Speaker 2: Ollie's belly and give me 100 yards, and.
40:52
Speaker 1: I'll be off to the races. I'll be celebrating in
40:54
Speaker 1: Aruba real nice, Matt, if he gets a hundy today.
40:58
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, the best tight end on
41:02
Speaker 2: the slate, Matt, he's not a tight end.
41:06
Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver.
41:07
Speaker 2: He's wide receiver one, and he's playing a team that
41:09
Speaker 2: is missing both of their cornerbacks.
41:12
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers. Man, he is in a smash spot. Like
41:17
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers. Especially with a beat up Genting too. And
41:21
Speaker 1: a beat up Genting. Like they're going to feed this
41:23
Speaker 1: guy the pill. Like he is a man among boys.
41:26
Speaker 2: He stayed up till midnight last night watching his dogs
41:28
Speaker 2: take down the tide.
41:29
Speaker 1: Like he's ready to go.
41:30
Speaker 2: He's going to run through a brick wall today. And
41:34
Speaker 2: hopefully score because I court him over there at shipitnation.com.
41:37
Speaker 2: I love me some Brock Bowers today. I think Brock's
41:39
Speaker 2: in a great spot. He's my favorite tight end. slash
41:42
Speaker 2: wide receiver one. Oh, I love Brock Bowers. Anybody else?
41:48
Speaker 1: I like Brock Bowers over McBride, but that's, yeah. Yeah,
41:53
Speaker 1: the other tight end I actually like a lot. You
41:55
Speaker 1: mentioned Kraft earlier. I like him, especially in the staff. Oh,
41:58
Speaker 1: Tucker Kraft, smash spot. Smash spot. I am surprised you
42:00
Speaker 1: actually don't like more, especially because you don't love Trey Harris.
42:03
Speaker 1: What about some Aranda Gadsden? Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love Gadsden. Yeah,
42:09
Speaker 1: he looks good here. Sorry. Yeah, he's good. He doesn't play, though,
42:13
Speaker 1: so that scares me. I know. Yeah. What about Charlie Kohler?
42:17
Speaker 1: Is Kohler back today?
42:19
Speaker 2: I thought I saw something about that. Do you know
42:21
Speaker 2: or if anyone in the chat know if Kohler's back?
42:25
Speaker 1: He is projected a little bit, so. So he must
42:29
Speaker 1: be back, yeah. He must be back. I'm probably not
42:31
Speaker 1: getting the gats.
42:33
Speaker 2: That Broncos, I'm telling you, that defensive line for the Broncos,
42:36
Speaker 2: they're starting four rookies for the Chargers. Man, Madison Beer
42:41
Speaker 2: better get her hands ready. She's going to be giving
42:43
Speaker 2: that boy a massage all night tonight because, gosh, she's
42:45
Speaker 2: going to get beat up. I feel bad for him.
42:47
Speaker 2: He's got some loser coach as well. So, man, I'm
42:51
Speaker 2: probably not.
42:51
Speaker 1: Getting the gas in.
42:52
Speaker 2: But, yeah, so I got Bowers as my tight end one.
42:56
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft, I love Tucker Craft. I got a bunch
42:58
Speaker 2: of Tucker Craft in my 150 today. What about Sam Laporta?
43:03
Speaker 2: How are you handling Sam Laporta? I don't think he's
43:06
Speaker 2: going to be highly owned just because everyone's on a
43:07
Speaker 2: click on McBride.
43:08
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could go double tight, but.
43:10
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Laporta today? Well, it's really
43:12
Speaker 1: hard to go double tight with all the running backs.
43:15
Speaker 1: I know. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Uh-oh. We got
43:18
Speaker 1: a tutty.
43:19
Speaker 2: Oh!
43:22
Speaker 1: Who? Nah, he overthrew him. It was the Eagles. Sorry,
43:29
Speaker 1: I lost my train of thought because of that. Yes.
43:31
Speaker 1: We were talking about Laporta. Yeah, I like Laporta. And
43:35
Speaker 1: to that point, like, I think we're on the same page.
43:38
Speaker 1: How can he get a lot of love when you've
43:39
Speaker 1: got McBride and then all the running back plays? And
43:43
Speaker 1: it seems like the optimal build is to play a
43:45
Speaker 1: running back at flex, right? Like doesn't mean it's going
43:47
Speaker 1: to work out that way, but on paper with Swift,
43:51
Speaker 1: Allen Gibbs, I mean, just those three and then whoever else, Wilson,
43:55
Speaker 1: whoever else you want to talk about, like it's hard
43:57
Speaker 1: to get Laporta in there because he's not super cheap.
44:00
Speaker 1: So because of that, I love, I love Laporta. I mean,
44:04
Speaker 1: one of the best plays of the slate, in my opinion. Oh,
44:07
Speaker 1: I like that. He's really hard to get to, but
44:10
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I kind of like a
44:12
Speaker 1: full– one thing I like that we haven't talked about,
44:16
Speaker 1: and I think these are ways to get different within
44:18
Speaker 1: chalky spots, I kind of like the full Detroit hammer,
44:23
Speaker 1: like playing five or six points, just Detroit. I mean,
44:27
Speaker 1: at that point, if you don't play the expensive Arizona,
44:30
Speaker 1: you can play all of them.
44:31
Speaker 2: Right?
44:31
Speaker 1: Like, and just hope that it's a Detroit onslaught and
44:33
Speaker 1: Arizona stinks. You can do the same thing with Arizona.
44:36
Speaker 1: I just think a lot more people are going to
44:37
Speaker 1: do that because they're easier and more consolidated.
44:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't, I don't think you have, I mean,
44:42
Speaker 2: I guess you got, I guess you could play love,
44:43
Speaker 2: but you really don't have that fifth guy. I mean,
44:47
Speaker 2: in an onslaught though, like if you're playing five Lions,
44:51
Speaker 2: don't you think you need at least one Cardinals bring
44:54
Speaker 2: back to kind of keep that game going? Or you're
44:56
Speaker 2: just saying, Hey, the Lions are going to score 45.
44:58
Speaker 2: I don't care what the Cardinals do.
44:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like that. Like, sure, you could. But
45:02
Speaker 1: just because like if the Lions go 45 and Arizona
45:05
Speaker 1: scores 14, like I think that's enough to push them
45:08
Speaker 1: as much as you need. But like maybe you don't
45:10
Speaker 1: need the McBride tight end. Like maybe it's just spread
45:13
Speaker 1: around for Arizona or some random. Elijah Higgins scores the touchdown. Like, yeah,
45:18
Speaker 1: not saying that's likely, but we're always looking for outlier scenarios. And,
45:21
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
45:23
Speaker 2: And it could be like 28 to 14, and that's
45:24
Speaker 2: when J-Mo takes his like 80 yards out of the house.
45:27
Speaker 1: Exactly. So like, yeah, I don't think that Arizona is
45:31
Speaker 1: like not going to be able to move the ball
45:32
Speaker 1: at all. And I don't think playing them is a
45:34
Speaker 1: bad idea, but like maybe they're just less impactful in
45:37
Speaker 1: the field things. Because they're going to, Arizona is going
45:40
Speaker 1: to be so highly owned.
45:42
Speaker 2: Yep, agreed. All right, Bowers I like. Kraft I have
45:45
Speaker 2: a lot of interest in. Kenyon, Sadiq, I would normally,
45:49
Speaker 2: but not in the rain. I see some Harold Fanon
45:51
Speaker 2: love in the chat, Matt. How do you feel about
45:53
Speaker 2: Harold Fanon today? Not Fanon, Harold Fanon, the touchdown maker himself.
45:58
Speaker 1: That's my Cleveland dude, so I'm not surprised he's on Fanon.
46:01
Speaker 1: I mean, Fanon's a dog. I like him always, and
46:03
Speaker 1: maybe the rain doesn't hurt him here because we talked
46:04
Speaker 1: about maybe they check down more. I'm not going out
46:07
Speaker 1: of my way for Fanon, but I don't hate it.
46:10
Speaker 2: I know the chat loves the revenge narrative.
46:14
Speaker 1: How do we feel about.
46:15
Speaker 2: My boy, about my boy going back down to South Beach,
46:18
Speaker 2: the Jizz Kid, Michael Gasicki? All he does is catch touchdown. Matt,
46:22
Speaker 2: are we going to be seeing the gritty in the
46:23
Speaker 2: end zone today? Revenge factor. You love Burrow.
46:27
Speaker 1: Do you have any Michael Gasicki today? I got one
46:30
Speaker 1: for you. I got Dulcich. You got Gasicki. Straight up points.
46:35
Speaker 1: Put it on the board. I already owe you one.
46:38
Speaker 1: I'm down 1-0 after Bucky Nation. Hey, Matt, of course. Bucky,
46:43
Speaker 1: of course. I thought about you the whole time. The
46:47
Speaker 1: whole time. And he scored the first touchdown. I'm pulling
46:51
Speaker 1: my hair out. I'm like, of all the... Oh, yeah,
46:53
Speaker 1: just wait. Just the first touchdown, right? And then 200
46:56
Speaker 1: yards later. Jamming it right in me. I'm just.
47:00
Speaker 2: Oh, that was killer. Sorry to Bucky Nation, man. He
47:04
Speaker 2: just hammered me, but Yeah, all right. I'll take– I
47:08
Speaker 2: don't like Gasicki, but the only one I'll mention is
47:11
Speaker 2: Colston Loveland, 4,600. I mean, he's a beast, Matt. He's
47:15
Speaker 2: going to win a slate at some point this year.
47:17
Speaker 1: We're only week five.
47:18
Speaker 2: We've got 13 weeks after this, but he's a beast.
47:21
Speaker 2: He could do it today. You talked about Bajent. Man,
47:23
Speaker 2: if you're playing Bajent, I think you've got to get
47:24
Speaker 2: Colston Loveland in there.
47:26
Speaker 1: RIP to 89, Mr.
47:27
Speaker 2: Ditka. Do it for Mike there, Colston. Get you in
47:30
Speaker 2: that end zone. But any of these other– Darnell Washington, no.
47:34
Speaker 2: But I don't have any interest. We didn't touch on
47:36
Speaker 2: George Kittle. I'm not playing Kittle. Not playing that scrub,
47:40
Speaker 2: Isaiah Likely.
47:40
Speaker 1: But any of these other tight ends that you want
47:42
Speaker 1: to touch on? Not really. I mean, I do think
47:46
Speaker 1: that Hockinson with no Addison still has a role. But
47:50
Speaker 1: price increase, Jefferson's back. Hardly excited about it. All right, Matt.
47:56
Speaker 2: Right call or run call? TJ Hockinson falling down at
47:59
Speaker 2: the one-yard line last week.
48:01
Speaker 1: I mean, it was clearly the right call. I don't
48:03
Speaker 1: think there's an argument for it to not be the
48:05
Speaker 1: right call. I understand why people would be upset, but
48:08
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's a bad beat because it
48:10
Speaker 1: guarantees the win. First off, Minnesota was never covering the
48:14
Speaker 1: entire game, so there's that. But second of all, it
48:17
Speaker 1: guarantees the win. And besides that, you don't want your
48:21
Speaker 1: defense having to play unnecessary snaps where they can get hurt.
48:23
Speaker 1: I think it's an easy call there. Kid Lightning disagrees
48:28
Speaker 1: with you. It sucks.
48:29
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. I think it actually helped me
48:32
Speaker 2: in the long run. I had a good week last week.
48:33
Speaker 2: I think it helped me. But, yeah, it was the
48:35
Speaker 2: right play. The wrong play was that jabroni for the
48:39
Speaker 2: Giants being so selfish and running back.
48:42
Speaker 1: That touchdown 100 and how many yards. I disagree with that. Why?
48:46
Speaker 1: The game's over. Exactly. Why not score? There is no
48:50
Speaker 1: plays after that. But he could have gotten stripped. He
48:53
Speaker 1: could have gotten hurt. There's– I mean, I guarantee you
48:57
Speaker 1: that if there was a defender close to him, he
48:58
Speaker 1: would have gone down. But if you're a– you've got
49:01
Speaker 1: to take that touchdown, in my opinion. I mean, why? Like,
49:05
Speaker 1: to be selfish, yes. To win the game and just say,
49:09
Speaker 1: you know what, no matter what, I could trip and fall.
49:11
Speaker 1: I didn't play Giants D. I didn't play Giants D,
49:13
Speaker 1: I promise. But, like, in that scenario with no time
49:17
Speaker 1: left and no place left they're always scoring there I
49:19
Speaker 1: mean they're not always scoring but I don't think it's
49:23
Speaker 1: a bad move to score I don't think it's selfish
49:25
Speaker 1: I just think it's.
49:26
Speaker 2: Haven't you ever seen it was in the Meadowlands I
49:28
Speaker 2: think and I think it was uh Herm Edwards he
49:30
Speaker 2: like muffed the ball and the Giants take it and
49:33
Speaker 2: run what if he trips on that bad turf throws
49:36
Speaker 2: the ball down I don't know. I think it actually
49:39
Speaker 2: helped me too, but I just, you know, I like,
49:41
Speaker 2: I like good, good old fashioned, like let's win games football.
49:45
Speaker 1: But I like your point though. It was the last game.
49:47
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. The other team wanted to get the
49:48
Speaker 1: ball back. So I'll take your side on that one.
49:51
Speaker 1: All right. That's enough on tight ends. Play Brock Bowers.
49:55
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to defense. I got some spicy
49:56
Speaker 1: defenses as always. Commanders, man, they scare me. I got
50:00
Speaker 1: a lot of commanders. I'll be honest with you. But
50:02
Speaker 1: at the ownership that we're showing 30 plus percent on
50:06
Speaker 1: both sites, it scares me. Who are some of your
50:09
Speaker 1: favorite defenses this week? I like the Saints a lot.
50:15
Speaker 1: Like I said, I haven't liked the Vikings offense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: tell me why you do because I do too. But
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Speaker 1: why do you like them? I'm worried about the Saints
50:21
Speaker 1: D now with that sickness. I know. So I don't
50:25
Speaker 1: know what to make of that. I'm going to have
50:26
Speaker 1: to kind of figure that out after the show. The
50:28
Speaker 1: Sims are pushing the Titans on me, which I don't love.
50:32
Speaker 1: But I also think we talked about it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they got some dudes on their D and they're 2100. Houston,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see that game playing out
50:42
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different ways. I could see Houston
50:46
Speaker 1: just putting their foot down and destroying Tennessee here. I
50:49
Speaker 1: could also see Houston just might not be that good,
50:52
Speaker 1: and it's in Tennessee. So I'm a little bit torn
50:56
Speaker 1: on what to do there. And then I do like
50:57
Speaker 1: the Jets. Both sides of the Jets-Browns game. Deshaun Watson's
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Speaker 1: been really good this year. And I'm a believer in
51:07
Speaker 1: the Browns, but this is a big trap spot for them.
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Speaker 1: And the jets are cheap. I like they're running back.
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Speaker 1: So they're in play for me. I like, I don't
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Speaker 1: think the Browns on the other side of that game
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Speaker 1: are a bad play. Truth be told. I don't have
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Speaker 1: a strong take on defenses here. Um, I think it's
51:24
Speaker 1: one of those random weeks. How about you?
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Speaker 2: So the reason I liked the saints and I was
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Speaker 2: just checking it out, Christian Darasol is out.
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Speaker 1: Um, Offensive lineman, pretty good offensive lineman. He's been out, right? No,
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Speaker 1: I think he got concussed last week.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and he's out. But Caden Ellis is
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Speaker 1: also out for the Saints.
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Speaker 2: He's their middle linebacker. We saw Danny Stutzman last week,
51:48
Speaker 2: just couldn't get it done. They scare me. Washington scares
51:53
Speaker 2: me as well.
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Speaker 1: Indy.
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Speaker 2: I do like Indy as a cheap defense, and I'll
51:58
Speaker 2: tell you why. DeForest Buckner is playing. Where do we
52:02
Speaker 2: have Indy– We have Indy all the way down. They
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Speaker 2: look pretty bad for us, but they're.
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Speaker 1: $ 2, 500.
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Speaker 2: The weather, Sean Sully put it in the chat, the
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Speaker 2: weather's not terrible, but it's got some winds.
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Speaker 1: Hey, and anytime Rodgers– Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I like
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Speaker 1: the Colts.
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Speaker 2: Another one I like, Matt, that no one's going to play,
52:23
Speaker 2: obviously the Texans, I like them, but the.
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Speaker 1: 49ers, man.
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Speaker 2: 49ers look good to me today. $ 2, 400, let me tell
52:28
Speaker 2: you why. They get back Mikel Williams, Michael Williams. This
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Speaker 2: guy is an absolute freak. Coming off an ACL injury,
52:35
Speaker 2: he's back.
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Speaker 1: Where'd he come from? Georgia. Yeah, okay. He was so
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Speaker 1: good in college. He's a freak. If they had Bosa,
52:43
Speaker 1: it'd be lock and load on him.
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Speaker 2: I know Bosa hurts, but I really like this San
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Speaker 2: Francisco defense today. $ 2, 400, that's dirt cheap. And then last thing,
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Speaker 2: and I'll get it back over to you. Leverage Lane yesterday,
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Speaker 2: our guy Blickle kind of talked about it. Playing that
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Speaker 2: Lions defense. Covering off that game, hey, Paris Johnson for
53:04
Speaker 2: the Cardinals out. I think the Cardinals are missing another
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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. The Lions supposedly have some amazing pass rush
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Speaker 2: with Aiden Hutchinson and crew. Like, what happens if the
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Speaker 2: Lions just shut this game down and just get sacks, turnovers, TDs?
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Speaker 1: 3,000, so I'll leave you with that. So– I have
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Speaker 1: a little bit mixed feelings on that. Like I could
53:28
Speaker 1: talk for a long time about this. I do think
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Speaker 1: that like, yeah, the leverage part of it makes sense.
53:33
Speaker 1: Cause you know, everyone's playing Arizona's offense and you're playing
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Speaker 1: the other side of that. I also think that there
53:41
Speaker 1: are plenty of scenarios in which the Arizona offense doesn't
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Speaker 1: do as well as the field thinks they're going to do.
53:46
Speaker 1: And Detroit's lion, the lion's defense is meaningless because defense
53:50
Speaker 1: is random. They're not even that cheap. They've been awful.
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Speaker 1: So like, I think a lot of times Arizona scores
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Speaker 1: 21 points here, less than the field expects them to.
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Speaker 1: Detroit gets some sacks, maybe a turnover or two, but
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Speaker 1: isn't really relevant themselves. Now, the outlier cases are what
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Speaker 1: you're shooting for. I just think there are other defenses
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Speaker 1: I like more. And one of them you kind of
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Speaker 1: said in passing, and it's Houston. I like them a
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Speaker 1: lot here. I think they're fighting for their lives. They're expensive. And, like,
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Speaker 1: you say that, like, for sure, like, everyone likes them,
54:24
Speaker 1: and I agree with you, but they're not going to
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Speaker 1: get played because they're so expensive. Okay. All right.
54:31
Speaker 2: Well, like we do each and every week when the
54:33
Speaker 2: smoke is settled and the dust is cleared and Matt
54:36
Speaker 2: Bellman has won hopefully a million dollars, not named Jameer Gibbs,
54:41
Speaker 2: give me one player that's going to be on your roster.
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Speaker 1: Texans defense. Texans defense. All right, there it is. You
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Speaker 1: got any bets this week that I should get? You
54:56
Speaker 1: got any bets for me? I like the Packers plus
54:58
Speaker 1: the points at home, but I don't love much else. Yeah,
55:01
Speaker 1: just take the money. Just a weird week. Yeah, probably.
55:04
Speaker 1: Weird week. Yeah. I got it. It's gross.
55:09
Speaker 2: It's super gross. Ollie Gordon, 50-plus rushing yards. I think
55:15
Speaker 2: Ollie gets the ball 15 times. I think he gets
55:17
Speaker 2: the 50-plus.
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Speaker 1: I need to be more on Ali because I feel
55:20
Speaker 1: like we need to kind of join forces here. Cause
55:23
Speaker 1: I like Miami's offense more than you. You like Ali
55:26
Speaker 1: more than me, you know, like you need to get
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Speaker 1: on Willis and Washington more. I need to get on
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Speaker 1: Ali more. I can't, I can't, I can't get on Malik.
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Speaker 1: I can't get somebody else. I mean, I mean, I
55:39
Speaker 1: don't like Ali. I mean, I do like Ali and fantasy.
55:41
Speaker 1: I'm going to play a bunch of.
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Speaker 2: Them in my one 50, but I just think he,
55:43
Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to get carries. Like he got
55:45
Speaker 2: a hundred yards. versus a much better defense last week in, like,
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Speaker 2: a part-time role. Like, the only way I don't see
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Speaker 2: them getting 50-plus is if they just get way down. Like,
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Speaker 2: if they get down 21 to nothing early, then they
55:59
Speaker 2: just can't run it. But, man, give me some Ali 50-plus.
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Speaker 1: If he gets 100-plus. It's hard, though, man, like Ali
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Speaker 1: and DFS, because you might be right about the 50-plus,
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Speaker 1: but playing him over all those other guys is a
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Speaker 1: different story. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't– I mean, I got to– like I said,
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Speaker 1: I have some of him. We were on the same
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Speaker 1: exact page there. Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he may
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Speaker 1: get 75 and not, you know, he may not be needed,
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Speaker 1: but I don't, I don't care about that.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Give me, give me some, give me some Texans D
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Speaker 1: I'm going to bump them a little bit. Give me
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