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181. A First Hand Account of Crown · 4-Freedom Podcast

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Welcome back to the Four Freedom Podcast.
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Today's episode, we've got a interview with a lady that
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attended Crown for a couple of years in right before COVID.
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And so she's asked to her name be taken and changed a little
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bit. She didn't want her identity
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revealed. And so we're we're calling her
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Brooke. And we hope you enjoy the
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interview today. It was a great time as we sat
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down and talked to her for about 30 or 40 minutes or so.
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And she is a school teacher now and she has began get, she had
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to get her degree after she left Crown.
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And so she talks to a little bit of her experience with that.
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Grace lit the flame Now. Now, here are your hosts, James
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Seyfried and Brett Martin. All right, we're excited to have
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Miss Brooke on today talking about her time at Crown College
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of the Bible. And what we want to begin with
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is just asking you a couple questions about your time there
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and about your experience at Crown.
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And so welcome to the show. Brooke, why don't we start with
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your arrival. What initially drew you to go to
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Crown and what was sort of your expectations going into the
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journey of the Crown College of the Bible?
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Right. So honestly, I knew I was going
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to go to Crown from the time I was a sophomore in high school.
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That was the first time I visited there.
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So I was pretty. I was young.
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I was around 15, maybe 16 the first time I went.
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And I grew up. My dad's a pastor, so I grew up
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and that kind of, I guess, realm of people.
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And like, I knew different preachers that went there and I
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had heard of it before and things like that.
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So it wasn't like a completely new place.
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Like I'd heard of it and we had tribal groups come to our church
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and things like that. So I got to know people through
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there. So, yeah, all through high
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school, I knew that's where I was going to go.
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My parents pushed it pretty hard.
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I knew that I was going to go to a Christian college.
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And like I said, I grew up, I'm very much independent
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fundamental Baptist. So it was kind of like always
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determined that that's the way that I was going to go.
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And I grew up very, you know, in a pretty strict household.
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So the idea of Crown was kind of just like, oh, well, it's not
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much different than what I'm used to.
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So I went and visited every year up until I graduated high
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school. And so I was, I would say
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initially I was very excited to go.
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I was excited to kind of have the newness of being away from
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everybody and getting to meet new people.
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I did have one like childhood friend that was also going
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there. So we were able to reconnect and
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I, I did make friends initially. So initially I was very, very
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excited to go and be there and kind of soak it all in.
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And it seemed like there was and there is a lot that you can get
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involved in. So I kind of at the beginning
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jumped in full fledge and was honestly excited to be there.
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One quick follow up before withholder and Brett.
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Are you still independent Fundamental Baptist?
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Is your dad still pastoring? Is he still independent
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Fundamental Baptist? And do you still go to that
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church, I guess. Yeah, So my dad still is a
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pastor, independent fundamental Baptist.
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I'm going to consider myself Baptist.
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I think that's kind of a kind of something I'm still figuring
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out. I don't go to my dad's church
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anymore. I still live in the area.
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But as I got a little older and moved out, I just kind of
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realized that maybe the space was like a good thing.
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You know, I kind of just wanted my dad to be my dad and not feel
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the need to have to be like to pastor me as well, just because
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I did have some beliefs that were different and it I didn't
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want to butt heads with my, you know, my dad's one of my best
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friends. So I didn't want that to be like
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a reason to butt heads. And so I felt like putting some
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space between that and allowing him to just be my dad was the
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right move for me. It's great.
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Well. Let's talk for a second about
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some of the positive experience that you had.
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I mean classes, friendships, ministry.
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What were some of the the good takeaways that you had from your
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experience there? So one of them would be that I
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did get to reconnect with that childhood friend.
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We had several, several years. We just didn't speak.
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And so coming into, at first when I found out she was going,
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I was a little nervous. But then when we saw each other
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again, it was like time hadn't passed at all.
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So that friendship is one that I still am like super thankful
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for. I don't, I think without us
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going to Crown, we would have never reconnected.
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And so I'm thankful that we were able to through that.
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There were lots of ministries that you can get involved in,
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and that's kind of like a Gray area too, because I do think
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that, yes, they were great to get involved with.
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Sometimes I feel like they were more like student LED.
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So meaning if there were no students, there would be no
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ministries. That's kind of how I still feel
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about that. But for someone who really wants
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to be involved in ministry, it's easy to get plugged into.
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I mean, several different ones. I personally did the nursing
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home ministry and I found a lot of, you know, joy in that and it
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was fun to go and I play the piano, so I was able to use that
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as well. I also did get picked to be on a
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travel group. I sing and play the piano.
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So I auditioned and I got picked.
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I got put in a group, but then COVID happened, so I never
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actually got to travel out. And that's something that I
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really, really, really I'm disappointed in because I think
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that probably would have been like the pinnacle, the absolute
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like best thing that I could have experienced through Crown.
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But sadly, I just, I didn't get to because of COVID and our
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groups didn't go out that year. And then the next summer, I just
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didn't feel like that's what I wanted to do.
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So I didn't audition again. But and then as far as friends,
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friendships are kind of different there and kind of the
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groups that you are around, I would say I was in one of I was
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in one of the groups where it was kind of like crowns, like
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top, top dogs. You know, they, they definitely
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have like their students that they rely on more than the
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others and that are treated maybe a little bit more like
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adults than others. And I would say that's one of
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the groups that I got into and that was because of who I was
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dating at the time. So it's definitely kind of like
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who you know there and what and even relationships who you end
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up getting in a relationship with has a lot to do with who
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you're around. Like obviously who you're around
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and kind of how they view you and as and they being like
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administration. So who your friends are are a
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big deal because if you're friends with someone that they
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don't really view as a top dog person, they're not really going
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to view you as that either. So relationships and friendships
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are definitely a big deal there. 11 quick follow up you said the
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D word dating this is not an ifb word is courtship.
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I will say they did use the term dating and they did use the term
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like boyfriend, girlfriend. I don't know that I didn't
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technically heard the word courtship much.
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I mean, I know that there's like students that would come and
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they would be like, you know, my family believes in courting or
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whatever. But I will say that the staff
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there did use the term dating so.
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What was the classes like? Again, me and Brett were asking
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from outsiders. We were not a part of Crown.
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What were the classes like? Were they professional?
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Did you learn a lot or was it just like a Bible class that
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you'd have in Christian School or, or what was that like?
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So obviously, no matter what, no matter what your degree is in or
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what you're studying, you're obviously going to have the
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Bible classes. And one of the big things that
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that about Crown is that they have the, you know, the trades
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program. So even if you're in school for
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HVAC or mechanics, you're still going to have those Bible
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classes. I originally went out, my
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associates was in like it's like a pre nursing program.
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So it was a lot of science classes and things like that.
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Obviously the first year was a lot of prereqs, so English
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classes and things like that. I would say that the Bible
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classes, there were several that I enjoyed and that I learned a
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lot in obviously growing up as a pastor's daughter.
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Like there were things that were just instilled in my mind as
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like a 5 year old and but it did, it did I, I learned a lot.
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Like I, I sometimes I went into it thinking like, I already know
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all this stuff. I already know the Bible
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doctrines and things. But there was a lot that I did
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like learn and that I do appreciate.
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And the other classes as far as like science and things.
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There was one science teacher there.
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He's not there anymore. He was a, he's a doctor, a
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genius, absolute genius of a man, very smart, worked in
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different countries, has published things in magazines.
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I mean, he's an amazing doctor, amazing scientist.
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He's no longer there. But I will say the time that I
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was there, he was very, as far as like the science that I was
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in classes I was in. He was very just knowledgeable
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and taught well. I believe he taught in other
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like public universities and things.
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There's another science doctor there.
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He was a heart surgeon, heart doctor I believe in like Africa.
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So I mean, they had, you know, they had people that were
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qualified. I think the problem is that they
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were, they weren't just professors, they were also staff
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members of the church. And sometimes like, you know,
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we'd be waiting in a science class and then we'd get an
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e-mail being like, oh, class is cancelled because it's a, it's a
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busy week at the church or whatever, you know.
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So I think yes, they were good professors and things.
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They just had other responsibilities.
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And sometimes I think it would like overlap into, you know, our
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classes and things like that. Whenever there, like I said,
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there would be a busy week or a big conference or things like
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that, classes would get canceled.
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And that's because this the our professors were also church
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staff, if that makes sense. So.
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Yeah. So me and Brett, we both come.
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Brett came from house and a church there.
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He I went to champion in Arkansas.
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And one of the things that sort of our ideas we've been walking
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through these different colleges is the different cultures of
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each college. What would the culture of crown
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as far as their modesty, the music, the separation?
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And how did that personally affect you and your experience
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with that with with the college? I mean, I would say a lot of
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things would align with Hiles. As far as the music, a lot of
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the music I honestly enjoyed. There was some that I would
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consider like High Church that would be like a little much for
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me. But for the most part, I really
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enjoyed their music, especially in like the college setting
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because it was a little, I wouldn't say, I don't want to
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say laid back, but it wasn't like a church service.
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It was more Southern gospel kind of even like bluegrass sea
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sometimes. So I did enjoy the music as far
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as the modesty, you know, I think maybe a little less strict
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than Hiles I would say. I remember even I I got in
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trouble a few times for like dress code and things like that,
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but never anything like super, super major.
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I know with certain things, Pastor Sexton, he was alive at
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the time, He was more strict on certain things like lanyards
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hanging out of guys, pockets or a big no no for him.
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They, you know, if they saw guys wearing tighter pants than
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usual, they would get, you know, call them out and Chapel
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services. The girls.
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I mean, it's the same IFIFB rules if that's what you want to
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call it across the board, you know, knee length skirts and
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dresses. And obviously they did.
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I don't know if Hiles does basketball shorts.
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Crown does allow basketball shorts for girls for like
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activity stuff. And sometimes that was like
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frowned upon by like other, you know, like higher like some of
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the girls would be like we're not allowed to wear basketball
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shorts. We just wear the culottes or
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things like that. So but that was one thing that
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crown did allow and again, those had to be like knee length.
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I do feel like they were strict on the girls with modesty.
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The boys like the they could wear their shorts a bit shorter
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than the girls. So they definitely were stricter
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on girls than boys. But I would say it was not
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anything. Nothing more out of the ordinary
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than any other like IFB college I'd say.
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Now, before I ask the next question, you brought up Pastor
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Sexton, can you tell us a little bit about your impression of him
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and and what you thought of what you thought of him?
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Initially I was very, I guess impressed the first time I went
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as a sophomore in high school. He was very kind, talk to my
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family. I remember he even like gave us
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a book for free and like had signed it and stuff.
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And I mean, of course it was college days and there was
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hundreds of people on campus. So that was, I feel like that
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was expected. But if you were to ask me now, I
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would say that I don't necessarily have the most
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respect for him because of just of a personal like run in.
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I don't even want to say run in. Just of a personal experience
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that I had with him and the how the conversation went and the
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way that it make me feel made me feel.
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That's just something that I have not been able to get over.
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But do I think he did amazing things on his time here on
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earth? Yes, I do.
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I, I respect the fact that he built a college from the ground
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up. I respect the fact that he has
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campuses, you know, in England. And I, I respect that like
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fully, but just because of a conversation that we had and how
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that went and how I just, and certain things that he has said.
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And I think that might be due to the fact that he was getting
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older too. He was more vocal and maybe a
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little bit less tactful than he was in the beginning of his
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ministry. So I don't want to just say that
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he was a terrible person because I don't believe that.
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I think he did amazing things and I believe God used him.
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But I do think that sometimes, like I said, I just think
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sometimes he wasn't as tactful with the college students as
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maybe he could have been. Well, let's let's go here.
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What were there ever moments where you felt tension between
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like your personal convictions and the expectations that were
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placed on you at Crown? Like you were made to do things,
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but on the inside you're thinking, well, this, this may
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not be the best or this, this doesn't match up with what I
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believe or go into that for us. Right.
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So I think when I first got there, like I said, I grew up
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very in a strict household, very IFB, very sheltered.
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So when I first got there, I would say I didn't feel that at
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all. I was like, oh, I'm used to
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this. This is what I've grown up, this
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is normal, this is etcetera, etcetera.
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And then I think as time went on, and I wouldn't even say like
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is things that like personal convictions, I would say is more
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like preferences, like, you know, they, you know, no going
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to the movies there. And well, that's something that
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I actually grew up doing. So that was like one thing that
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Oh, we can't go do that this weekend because we're not
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allowed to. And even just, I don't even want
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to say like again, convictions or even preferences.
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It was just things that like, in my opinion, were like silly,
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like girls weren't really supposed to go anywhere by
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themselves. Like if you were going to
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Walmart, you had to bring another girl with you.
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Even though Walmart was 5 minutes down the road and I
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needed to grab one thing, technically I could have gotten
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in trouble by doing that. So I think sometimes things.
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And I think it was those little things that eventually became
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like too much because once you when you have like a bunch of
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little things that you're like, this is aggravating.
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Like I'm an adult, I'm 20 years old.
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Why can I not go to Walmart by myself?
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Why am I not allowed to go to the gym?
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Like, you know, things like that.
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I think that's when it's kind of like, you know what, maybe I
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don't fully see eye to eye here, maybe I don't.
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Is this the best thing for me? Like, am I happy here?
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Like having to change who I am based off their rules and what
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they want us to do. And I think that's ultimately
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when I was like, I think I would be happier not here anymore.
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I've got a follow up question at at How's Anderson?
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They always made us feel like we were kids at camp and.
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Not like. Functioning adult, you never get
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that feeling. Yes, a lot, actually.
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There's one person in particular who is not there anymore who
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made everyone feel that way. He was a staff.
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He was he was actually over student life.
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And I don't know if I'm allowed to like, say who it is.
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So it's actually OK. So it was actually Pastor
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Sexton's son. His name is Shannon Sexton and I
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have no problem saying that he had no business doing what he
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was doing because he was extremely rude, extremely
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disrespectful to students, extremely mean.
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I have several stories about that.
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My sister has several stories about that.
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My sister went toe to toe with him once in the hallway and he
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just looked at her and walked away because my sister was like,
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I'm had I've had enough of how he's treating us like children
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and the things he's saying. And she finally said something
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back and he didn't he walked away.
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But he was one that really, when I was there, made you feel like
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a child. And then even like, if you were
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going anywhere further than 40 minutes away, I think you had to
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have your parents text administration and be like, I
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give my child permission to go to Pigeon Forge today on
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Saturday. Even if your family was in town,
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like if my parents were in town visiting me and I wanted to go
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stay, you know, at the Airbnb with them instead of my dorm
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room, my parents would still have to text and give permission
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for me to stay with them. And then, you know, we weren't
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allowed to go home on the weekends unless it was a set
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break. We weren't like if I just wanted
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to go home to see my family on a weekend, I was not allowed to do
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that. So I didn't really like that
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either. And that was something my
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parents didn't like either. You know, they always, they had
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things about Crown they liked, but that was one thing they
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didn't like, they didn't feel, they didn't like feeling like
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they were being overstepped as the parent.
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Because I mean, when I got there, I was 18 years old.
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So there were things that I, that I, you know, respected them
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and still ask them about and they helped me with.
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But Crown kind of like put a cut on that and was like, it was
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almost like they wanted to be your parent a little bit.
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But then they would also be like, don't have your mommy and
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daddy call us complaining about you have your washer and dryers
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not working in your dorm. We don't want to hear from them.
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So I don't know. It was kind of like weird
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because they would want your parents approval, but then they
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wouldn't want your parents to call and complain about
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something. So it was just, I don't know,
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that was aggravating. I can sympathize with both of
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those things that you I, I was raised where we went to movies,
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we swam together as guys and girls, like all those were great
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things. And then we went to champion and
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it's like, oh, you can't do this anymore.
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But they said one thing about leaving and having to get
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permission. So my wife lived in Hot Springs.
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She was a, a kid in the school, raced to the bus ministry,
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reached to the bus ministry, went to the college.
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And so her first year, her dad made her stay on campus.
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And so that Thanksgiving she had put in a request to go home for
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Thanksgiving, which is still in Hot Springs.
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Mom and dad go to church, everything.
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And her past was rejected because she had too many days
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away from the college. And so I, I thought that was
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hilarious. You know, that that was sort of
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the, the mindset they had that even even local people couldn't
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even go home. So thinking.
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Go ahead. I was just going to say it's as
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bad as it is for the students in general.
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It's even worse for the girls. And I saw that and I always felt
25:01
sorry for these girls that at how's Anderson, you had to have
25:05
three girls in a car to leave and one of them had to be an
25:09
approved junior or senior. And so always thought that, you
25:13
know, those girls are just, they're stuck at the campus,
25:16
They can't go anywhere, they can't do nothing.
25:18
I always felt sorry for them. Yeah, there's definitely.
25:21
I would agree that the I don't really even know what you would
25:25
call it. I guess the difference in rules
25:29
between the boys and the girls was something that made all the
25:33
girls on campus upset. I wouldn't say all because there
25:36
was some girls that were like ride or die.
25:38
What the rule says, we're not going to question it, but for
25:41
the most part girls would get upset about it because the boys
25:45
were allowed to go to the gym. Girls were not allowed to go to
25:49
the gym. Boys could ride, go wherever
25:51
they want by themselves, like at not my the guy I was dating at
25:57
the time wasn't a resident assistant or RA.
26:00
And like, he would let if his guys were hungry, you know, that
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he would let them leave past curfew and go to the Taco Bell.
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But if you were to ask a girl, RA, hey, can I go get something
26:10
to eat? I'm starving.
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They'd be like, sorry, it's curfew.
26:14
So yeah, the difference between the guys and the girls is
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there's, there's it was definite.
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It was. It was obvious.
26:20
Yeah. And I think that's widespread
26:22
among most IP colleges. And well, we're going to skip #5
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we're going to number six. What was the ultimate decision
26:30
that sort of led you to never to not go back to a crown?
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Was this like a turning point decision?
26:35
Like immediately, hey, we're not going back or what gradual
26:38
shift. I know you said COVID came in.
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So I don't know if that was part of it.
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What was what was your experience of not going back?
26:46
So I had graduated with my associates and then I was going
26:50
to go back and finish my bachelor's and I'd gone back
26:54
that fall semester and my sister was actually there at that
26:58
point. So we were living together and I
27:01
loved having my sister there. But then I think I brought it up
27:06
earlier. There was a conversation with
27:09
me, Pastor Sexton, and the guy that I was dating at the time.
27:13
And after that conversation, I almost had my parents come pick
27:16
me up that night. Actually, my I called my parents
27:20
and my mom was like, if you tell me to come pick you up because I
27:22
didn't have my car with me at the, or did I?
27:25
I might, I might have had my car at that point, I can't remember.
27:27
But regardless, my parents were like, if you tell us to come get
27:32
you right now, I will come get you.
27:34
So and then I ended up saying it's fine, I'm going to stay.
27:39
I'm going to finish out the semester because I don't want to
27:41
lose the credits that you guys have paid for.
27:44
So I stayed until December and then after that semester I
27:49
stayed at home and finished online.
27:54
OK, well let me ask you this. If a high school senior asked
27:58
you whether they should attend Crown or not, they came to you
28:02
right now. They asked you this question.
28:04
What would you tell them? I would say it depends on what
28:10
you want to do with your life because I think if you want to
28:16
be in the ministry, if you want, especially if it was a, a male,
28:20
if you want to be a preacher, a pastor, a missionary, or if
28:25
you're a girl who wants to be a youth pastor's wife, like you
28:28
just want to be a stay at home mom, you have no interest.
28:32
And you know, really, you know, you don't have any interest in
28:36
having a nine to five job. You just want to, you know, be
28:40
in the ministry and that kind of thing.
28:42
I would say 100% go for it. I would say that you're not
28:49
going to be steered wrong as far as the ministry goes.
28:55
I would say I would. I would have to be honest and
28:59
say, are you used used to these rules?
29:02
Is it someone like me that grew up wearing certain things and
29:06
having certain rules? Or is it someone from a public
29:08
school who heard about this Christian college at a church
29:13
service? Because that's a, that's a big
29:16
factor. So what was your like?
29:18
What's their background like? Because if it's someone who's
29:21
not used to, you know, those dress standards and a, a curfew
29:26
and things like that, it's probably not going to go well
29:28
for you. But if it's someone who grew up
29:31
like that and they have a desire to be in the ministry, then I
29:35
would say go for it. I think if you have a desire to,
29:39
my sister went there and she finished out all four years with
29:44
her teaching. She did education.
29:47
There's still some hoops you're going to have to jump through if
29:50
you plan on teaching in a public school.
29:51
And I think that's something that they don't tell you upfront
29:54
because there's a lot, a lot of girls that go there for
29:57
education and a lot of them do teach in private Christian
30:01
schools. So, you know, it's it if you
30:03
don't have a teaching license, that's fine that a license is
30:05
not required to teach in a private school.
30:08
But if you have the desire to teach in a public school, I
30:10
would say just go to a Community College, go to a university and
30:15
go to online and get it there. Because right now, my sister's
30:19
having to jump through hoops to get her licensure, and she's
30:22
going to have to end up getting a master's degree now.
30:26
And so yes, it's a good school, But if you plan on having a
30:35
career that's not just ministry, I would say maybe do some
30:40
research before you put your money into it because you don't
30:44
want to be done with a degree. And then sit back and say, well,
30:49
I kind of just wasted some money because I didn't really know all
30:53
the insurance and outs of it, I guess.
30:55
Yeah, we had a friend, Ashley Wynn, who recently went through
30:59
that same experience. And basically her degree was
31:02
just a piece of paper and I can redo all four years.
31:06
She couldn't find a college that would even accept her degree or
31:10
accept her classes. There was no syllabuses they
31:13
could pull to. And then and it was it was
31:16
difficult. And so she just had to redo her
31:18
entire education experience and just graduate.
31:22
Yeah, My, my brother, when he was in high school, he did a
31:26
dual enrollment class. And this is something that I
31:28
think they should be open and honest about too, and they're
31:31
not. He did a dual enrollment class
31:34
for like it was like a English comp class or something like
31:37
that. He did it in high school.
31:39
He finished it, got an A in it, did really well.
31:42
And then he actually goes to Mississippi State University and
31:47
that credit that he had from Crown would not transfer over to
31:51
Mississippi State because they were they were like, this is
31:53
like a high school level course. So they did not accept it and he
31:57
had to end up redoing it or something.
31:59
So yeah, I would just say even even the dual enrollment, if
32:03
that's something you're doing through them, like definitely
32:05
research and ask questions and ask if you plan on going to
32:08
another university, like ask questions.
32:10
Are you guys going to accept this?
32:11
Because a lot of the time the answer is going to be no.
32:14
Yeah. Well, Brooke, I know that you
32:17
are busy. You're teaching right now today
32:19
and you've got got to go get or are there any final words that
32:23
you have for anyone that may be listening and then we'll we'll
32:26
sign off for today. I just think that kind of what
32:30
I've said, like I don't, I'm definitely not anti Christian
32:34
college, but if it was my own child, I would I would
32:38
definitely. And they had interest in a
32:40
Christian college. It's never something that I
32:41
would say, no, you're not doing that.
32:44
That's a bad. I would never say it's a bad
32:46
idea because I don't think Christian college is a bad idea.
32:49
I just think it all depends on your situation because yes, and
32:54
I think people say Christian college is going to protect you,
32:57
but I'm going to be honest that there's a lot you can get away
33:00
with, a lot that people did get away with, a lot that people
33:03
were introduced to there that I mean, it's just the same as any
33:07
other. Are there people like, you know,
33:09
partying and things like that? Not really.
33:13
So yes, I guess in a sense you are protected, but there's,
33:17
there's ways to the world finds itself into any place and
33:22
there's going to be people that are bad influences anywhere you
33:25
go. So I think if, like I said, if
33:27
you're ministry minded and that's what you want to do, I
33:29
would say go for it. But if you plan on doing
33:35
anything as far as a career and you're looking into it, just do
33:38
your research, 100%. Do your research, ask questions
33:42
because you do not want to be in a place at the end of your four
33:46
years and be upset that you've wasted money and now you're
33:49
having to basically start over. So that'd be my biggest advice
33:53
is if if you plan to go to Christian college, just do your
33:55
research that you're going to be set once you're done in those
33:58
four years. Absolutely.
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Well, thanks for coming on. Thanks for sharing today.
34:03
Thank you. For having me.
34:05
Absolutely. Thank you for being on.
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And until next time, to God be the glory.
34:09
Yes, Sir. Thank you.
34:10
Found my new. Name found that good grace found
34:16
that healing, and the tears fell down my face when I found my
34:21
beginning. It has no ending.
34:22
I found that second chance, found my best friend, found my
34:24
forgiveness, found my happiness. I've been singing ever since.
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